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that was uncalled for

>>50822886
When will you fuck off already

> pmg/
IN TO THE TRASH IT GOES

/pmg/ reminding you to use JM Bullion for all of your overpriced bullion needs. Thanks /pmg/

Haven’t bought anything new in a while. Managed to spend too much over the last couple of months given my budget.

Still really want a fucking pickle Rick but it’s 3 times more than I’d pay.

How can someone still shill precious metals.
5 years ago i but 1/3 in ETH, 1/3 in LINK and 1/3 in silver. Needless to say how i feel about that in hindsight.
We went through a crisis and are heading towards recession and precious metals are still not moving.

>>50822886
Based autist

I'm voting this thread, because OP did it right.

soon the great reset will be upon us, and I will have my revenge!

>>50822810
Two more decades fellow apes

>>50823590
2 more weeks.

[SHTF Silver Barter List]
1oz - 1 weeks supply of wholesome groceries (chobani yogurt, medium roast coffee, usda choice cuts of fresh beef, pork chops, bacon, granulated white sugar, unbleached wheat flour, canned fruit preserves, organic vegetables, domestic and imported european beer)
10 oz - a quality domestic automobile or light duty 4x4 truck (Ford 150, Chevy 1500)
100 oz - a medium sized home with 1 acre of arable land

These are just some examples of what you'll be able to get with silver when SHTF

>>50823681
half a oz of silver: Used up roastie
1 oz: woman with body count of 5
5 oz: Virgin woman
10 oz: Attractive virgin woman.
15 oz: Virgin Cunny.

>>50823681
>>50823721

if SHTF nobody will trade their stuff for shiny rocks.
Food, tools, drugs, weapons and ammo...what am im going to do with a hoard of silver as a farmer? Give me goods or labour.

>>50823721

>>50823876
The same old FUD, can't you do any better?

why doesnt pmg stay up anymore

>>50823904
its not FUD, i just learned my lesson.
PMs are for crisis (like the beginning of covid) or recession (like now) but turns out its too manipulated to actually peform like intended.
PMs at the most are for people who are already rich.
Buy crypto if you are poor and land if you are rich.

>>50823003
Goldsilver. Be is overpriced as well. Don't know why that is in there.

>>50824006
Nobody believes you crypto faggot, stop trying to get people to buy your digital bags.

>>50823876
>if SHTF nobody will trade their stuff for shiny rocks.

I have shitloads of pharmaceuticals and antibiotics I'd be very happy to trade for shiny rocks during SHTF. Not interested in your questionable garage reloads with sand instead of gunpowder or zoomerfaggot digital tokens but will definitely take your grandma's heirloom gold jewelry and grandpa's coin collection.

>>50822810
Bump

Hyperinflation = good. It means I can buy a family of prostitutes for gold bullion.

>>50823876
>in shtf nobody is going to want the greatest medium of exchange and store of value since time immemorial
>instead they're going to want to argue over how many cans of beans and boxes of 9mm a milk cow and a tractor are worth

>>50824119
im actually a farmer and if SHTF and i run out of fuel i will really have a hard time to keep producing without tractors, electric tools, chainsaws etc while also defending my property. i can hardly imagine i would have the luxury to hoard PMs.

of course this is just a larp because while im actually a farmer i know that i would not be able to defend my property since i live in central europe with densly populated areas around. If SHTF there would be many hungry people willing to do anything to survive....

>>50824275
this exactly, wagmi.

Do any of you remember when pmg wasn't reddit setf larping retards? Do you remember when it wasn't full is discord troons? Do you remember when it wasn't full of pedo cartoon pictures?
You don't even see these threads anymore in the catalogue because the op pic isn't even precious metals. There is an obsession by disgusting mentally ill people to control the creation of the threads and the theme within.
How about, just for fun, you post a picture of YOUR precious metals, and anybody that doesn't, just dont respond to the post.

>>50823119
Silver was never going to move and now we know gold won’t either. Give it a few more years then everyone will start selling out of frustration and then gold will be completely demonetized and viewed as any other commodity. Max price: $10/oz.

>>50824362
Guess the idea is that the Arabs (who own all the oil) would start accepting gold again, binding fuel to gold

Hey finally a good thread. Reposting from the last one just got the 2006 silver proof set, about halfway through collecting the silver state quarters series. I like these, nothing crazy but all of the state quarters are very nicely done this year. I especially like the dakota quarters, both the American Buffalo and Mount Rushmore are always nice to get but all of them look great. Especially after the letdown of 2007 shit quarters

Also anybody know of good numisfag Youtube channels? I really like TheCoinGeek

>>50824439
I picked these coins up yesterday.

>>50824593
Nice, I did some meme coin collecting earlier this year. Where did you find yours? How much per coin?

unironically what should I karot size should I invest in as a babies-first purchase? I have $400 to freely spend.

>>50824616
all coins from my LCS, each RCM coin was 34 CAD, and the gold coin is a 1886 Italian gold coins was about 600 CAD. The Koala with the Berlin Bear Privy Mark was 60 CAD.

>>50824616
Close up of lion on the far right please

>>50824642
tl;dr: inexpensive government-issues coins, or generic art bars (not factory-stamped bars).
Long:
My typical copypasta to answer "what should I buy". My answer is more like, "Here are some options to consider."
- For generic bars with no design, watch the markups over spot: premiums (added charges) go up for smaller pieces. When selling, your buyer may insist on spot price.
- When a new series of artful or themed bullion (especially coins) comes out, the first of the series are usually missed by later collectors. They will pay high premiums to fill in the series. Ponder the potential for series popularity: generic and/or cringeworthy-themed series have higher failure rates.
- Interesting coins cost least while they're still being minted. Once the mintage stops and dealers run out of stock the prices jump, then rise more slowly but still faster than generic silver. Maples, Eagles, Wieners, Britannias, etc. are all nice but boring. The mint may add a privy to make them more collectible (creating a series) and gin up the price. Buy stuff that changes overall designs from year to year: Somali elephants, Canadian Wildlife, Australian kookaburras or koalas, island nations' series, etc. These become series.
- If you buy pieces that appeal to your sense of art, taste, and interests, they will still feel good even if the price or value of the PM goes nowhere. Caveat: if you go to sell, it's harder to part with them.
- Some beautiful generics are priced comically high (Germanias, e.g.) - they don't follow the market trends as readily, and usually garner highest resale price only for a few years after the mintage. The drawback: dealers may categorize these as "generic" and price them as generic when buying them from you.
- If free shipping is offered, buy enough to take advantage of that. Although it's shipping (not directly PM), it's an added premium.
- Keep a spreadsheet of your purchases!!! You should track profit/loss over time. It's quite revealing.

>>50824439
She ain't much but she's mine

>>50824616
I like your variety - well done!

Kilo came in yesterday. (Dime for scale)

>>50824672
Sure

>>50824700
>when cigarette and light are worth more than your hoard

>>50824731
Impressive. Very nice.

>>50824642
If you had just a little bit more money you could buy gold with not-horrible premiums, $400 isn't quite enough for most fairly priced gold right now. You would need about $500-$550 to gt a 1/4 ozt gold coin, which is when premiums are much more reasonable. 1/10 ozt gold is almost always a ripoff and 1 gram gold is absolutely a ripoff. I've even been told by the dealers that sell it that 1 gram gold is a bad buy.
Also Karat in terms of gold refers to purity, not size. The overwhelming majority of gold coins are either 22 karat like Sovs, Krugers and Gold eagles, or 24 karats which is pure like Maples, Britannias and Gold Buffalos.
>>50824726
There's nothing like that first Kilo bar, the overwhelming girth of it is pure bliss. I refuse to change my wording.

>>50824541
Why did the 50 states quarters have such more sovl compared to the next series they did. That's not saying the America the beautiful series wasn't all bad, they had some good designs, but a lot of them just don't hit like the 50 states ones did.
>>50824642
Don't buy a baby gold. Buy a silver spoon and when he crowns from his mother's womb, stick the spoon in his mouth. He'll have more fortune than anyone here.

Just ordered an oz of gold leaving me only $100 till Friday when I get my wagiebucks but I can't stand looking the price going up. Lucky I bought 3 oz a month ago in the same order. I'll need to keep stacking gold but it's not as easy to DCA on full ounces as silver since I can just scoop sterling silver every now and then when I find it but for gold I need to save like over $1800 to purchase a tiny bit since the smaller amounts have insane premiums.

>>50824750
>1 grain of gold
>$3.78 USD
>1/4 grain
>94 cents
>the packaging blister is worth a decent chunk of that gold "bar"
>it probably cost $10 to buy that little pack
>the copper bar has about 40 cents worth of material
>can guarantee it cost at least $2 to buy
at least $6 in US junk and a silver kruger is nice, maybe it would get a pity handy in the collapse

>>50824786
Probably heraldry and patterns. I still like a lot of the America the beautiful series and will probably collect all of those after I get the 56 states/territories, there's no clear pattern to tie it all together.
Seriously, what do Frederick Douglass, The Grand Canyon, Homesteading and Tusgagee air pilots all have in common with each other? The new Women series may be shit but that's at least a common and united theme. I also like the American innovation $1 coin series, I bought the reverse proof 2021 set because I wanted the rotated-die "VIDEO GAMES" coin

>>50823119
When you really need to buy it you won't be able to.

>>50824459
Kek.

>>50824759
I know I probably should have got rounds but glad I got the kilo.

Hey guys heres the roo I got.

>>50823119
>We went through a crisis and are heading towards recession and precious metals are still not moving.
Correction:
We are in recession heading towards depression and paper has devalued 26% while metal have increased in comparison by remain within a 5% hover

>>50823898
>filename

>>50825003
>new Perth coins completely redesigned of the already great designs Perth mint had for a really long time
>not only is it not shit, the new designs are arguably better than the old ones
How did they do it? Last time I can think of how a coin completely BTFO the prior design is St. Gauden's Double eagle utterly annhilating the pretty bland liberty bust double eagle

>>50824439
/SETF/
Has gold too goblin

>>50824977
>should have got rounds
Not necessarily true.
Anyway, you've got a nicely-made bar, it's a fun and unusual thing to have, and you got it at a time when Ag is reasonably low priced. This means you can unload it for a tolerable loss or even a small gain if you don't want it any longer.

>>50824439
On the one hand, you have tits. The other is GTFO.

>>50823119
Breh, You're doing it wrong... hodl crypto until profitz, THEN buy PMs

>>50825309
That necklace should really be in traditional Hebrew and sold on Facebook,...
Oh wait business model already taken

>>50824439
I always post originals of my own stuff.
Unless I'm making a point with a stupid meme, but I try not to become /b/.

>>50825363
Kek. I thought it was written in shekelspeak. Must be a loanword.

>>50824362
How is a farmer going to sell his products if he doesn't accept PMs? Bartering gets really inefficient really fast. Are you going to be trading your produce for old furniture and blowjobs? That's why people ALWAYS find a new form of currency when the old one collapses.

>>50825445
Nah, nothing hurts kikes moar than a silver stacker not viewing metal through the false lens of their paper ponzi printing schemes, and simply continuing to aquire and trade and barter and use the raw materials outside of their control.

>>50823119
nice larp

>>50824439
I post pics of my PMs all the time, weirdo.

>>50824459
I pity all those poor Central Banks that lack your wisdom and foresight. They are going to be stuck with so much gold.

>>50825003
grats on the roo u got

>>50823681
A truck for $200, a house for 2k kek. This delusional line of thinking is what gets you boys in trouble

>>50825661
um, he said 10oz of silver and 100oz
not sure where you got $200 or 2k from

>>50825633
Checked and confirmed
>I pity all those poor Central Banks that lack your wisdom and foresight. They are going to be stuck with so much gold.
Not just Gold though, Silver, Platinum, Nickel, Copper, Cobalt, Iridium, Uranium, Thorium, Bereillum, etc...
They're going big into physical metals and resourcing them...
Nothing like being the lenders of Last resort huh?

>>50825678
>10*20=200
>100*20=2000
Might want to work on those math skills a bit lil fella

>>50825614
This pic, more than any other, makes me covetous and want to impulse buy bags of junk silver.

>>50824700
Nice. Tomorrow we go up after CPI.

>>50824439
I always remember weebs on 4chan(nel). Kinda the point

>>50826019
A chest does seems real nice and fitting for storing PMs. Really should get around to getting one

>>50824439
well said

>>50826019
I wish for you piles of shiny to grab by the fistful and clink joyfully.

>>50822810
DUDE JUST MAKE HOLDING GOLD ILLEGAL LMAO

>>50824439
>You don't even see these threads anymore in the catalogue because the op pic isn't even precious metals.
I'll second this, I find it very annoying.

Take the piratepill anon

>>50827298
Arrrrr

Hoarding copper pennies: based and redpilled?

>>50827298
Take the gymbag pill

>>50827378
The most based and redpilled of all. Best way to enjoy stacking without blowing out your paycheck every couple of weeks. I found an Indian head penny last week.

Any of you guys know if there is a particular foam that will damage silver, or a kind that is specifically safe for silver? I'm wondering if certain types have the chemical that causes pvc damage, have not been able to find a definitive answer as of yet.

Hey Stereoanon thanks for the other picture. Again I had to crop/align the two pictures otherwise it made my eyes cross uncomfortably but otherwise very cool picture. What kind of setup are you using to take your pictures?

>>50827426
>I found an Indian head penny last week

Post it fren, I've never seen one in circulation. Dug some with a metal detector which is fun but finding one in change has gotta be pretty rare.

>>50827478
The two elements I know of to avoid when it comes to silver storage are sulfur and chlorine. I think you're safe to use any kind of "foam" that doesn't contain one of those.

I've received a substantial windfall and want to buy some gold but where the hell do I place 100oz plus of gold? deposit box? vault it? build a stash spot?

>>50827516
Thanks I'm going to just make some display boxes for these. Not sure if I want to cut a depression to the same shape or just carve out a harder foam. I'm leaning towards cutting the wood to shape and using a thin layer of soft foam like the round ones that come in tubes sometimes.

>>50827591
Bury it. Draw up a treasure map that requires solving puzzles and finding clues at exotic locations around the world.
Leaving it in the care of banks is blue pilled.

>>50827378
Based, by my calculations

Am I on the way to making it?

>>50827298
>>50827316
Are you me?

>>50827591
If you really received such a windfall and you're considering spending it on gold then I'll assume you have property. Find a hidey-hole somewhere in your house and you'll be fine.

>>50827499
It was so dark it was easy to overlook. It was a deep, dark emerald green from the side. After opening the roll I knew I found something special. At work at the moment, can't post.

>>50827499
Not that anon but here's an Indian head I found in the parking lot of the pizza joint where I used to work. Then later I found this slick Barber dime in the register till.

>>50827697
thats a very aesthetic photo anon

>>50827787
blast and damn Samsung for this treachery

I know I shouldnt buy Silver as I am from the UK. Spot is £17/£23 and people are reselling it for £23/$27 per ounce. I know I must buy Gold for the best deals, but man I like the idea of having lots of coins and bars to play with. WHAT DO I DO?

>>50827787
how do i rotate jpg goddamn

>>50827802
Thank you, I just wish I could post the full res

>>50827499
>>50827786
Also, there is nothing like getting some great boxes of pennies. In two boxes, I bet on average I found 8 copper pennies per roll. Over 20 wheaties, 2 dimes, 15 Canadian pennies, and an Indian head.
It's fun as hell. I hate not having a few boxes at the house to search through.

>>50827814
buy sovs, really don't know why this is so complicated for some people?

>>50827814
Bong anon here. You should get yourself a pile of silver as a substitute for fractional gold. A tenth of an ounce of gold is currently about 7oz of silver. Having ounces of silver will allow you to get day to day goods if it becomes the only means of worthwhile method of exchange. I'm only aiming for 200oz of 1oz silver coins, then the rest will be in gold.

>>50827722
Well under way. Shit organisation though

>>50827697
CMP stock?

A lot of gold and silver moves through Italy. Jewelry makers and such.

>>50827821
Nice scores, I'm saving the worn smooth dimes to pay Jewish FWTDHWs

>>50827885
I've gone through several hundred in pennies and never found an indian, got a nice sack of wheaties and coppers though. An emerald green indian sounds like something that was dug up, green coppers are the best.

>>50828007
yep

>>50827915
Because sovs arent pure, and I want to stick with pure metals.

>>50827378
Very based hobby

>>50828005
Yeah, only ordered service grade but the whole thing is in flawless condition

>>50828035
why?

>>50828091
Just personal preference

>>50824275
>>50824045
>>50823904
>>50823721
>>50823681
>>50823541
All these hopium “when the reset happens!!!” type posts are just as bad as deluded cults like XRP GME or buying a fucking lottery ticket. Your lives are so shitty you live on the pipe dream of “silver will be $3,000 an ounce and society will LITERALLY collapse!!!!” Instead of viewing it as an investment opportunity.

Deluded mentally ill posters, when BTC passes $60,000 again and silver gains 8% all of /biz/ will laugh

this is the chart you guys are chasing

>>50824362
>If SHTF there would be many hungry people willing to do anything to survive....
You mean like suck dicks for mercury dimes?

>>50824977
Checked and yeah kilos are badass. Feel like a bond villain or a Nordic king

>>50825384
indeed.

>>50824726
Put it in the refrigerator and then rest your sack on it when your about to nut. It'll change your life.

>>50827298

>>50824759
It's like you don't even know that francs exist for $350 and 2-5% premium

Pre-33 kings, not like this.......
https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/comments/wkdvxw/is_dis_a_problem_whit_the_coin_cane_afect_the/

>>50827755
Hello fren, where did you find yours? Got mine at a garage sale for $5. Yours looks like it still has the latch

which one lads? not a hypothetical, I'm about to order.

>>50828057
same. i'm planning on removing the lacquer and putting on the proper varnish

>>50828624
Neither, I think their designs are awful, like some kids competition design.

>>50828652
really? I'm leaning towards the 2012. Here's a better pic.

>>50824439

Most of the time I post my coins, I get 1 or 2 responses. And I'm not a repost fag.

Most people just wanna talk about whatever shit they want and meme.

>>50828677
>>50828624
what even is that anon?
you about to order a bronze token from a circus or something?

>>50828683
it's a limited edition sov, occasionally they do a different design, often on jubilees, etc.

>>50828677
>really?
Yes really.

>>50827915
every time I had money to buy gold the coin shop didn't have one, they aren't very easy to find in America

>>50828680
That isn't a coin...
It's art

>>50828624
JFC, those are both fugly af.

>>50828035
I avoid pure metals.
For me, it's the Krugerrand.

>>50828690
>tfw such a low quality design is from an official mint

>>50827947
Ehh, coins are organized by country and vacuum sealed for space saving and longevity.
Bags seem to be garbage though and keep breaking.

>>50822810
What's up with these dumb OP pictures?
/pmg/ threads need to have some nice shinies in the OP. fr fr

>>50829027
>official mint
boggles the brain

Reposting this from the threads the mods nuked to show that this digital ponzi currency system the khazar bankers want to force on us cant be done and it is already being rejected.

https://www.thejournal.ie/aib-cashless-no-plans-to-go-back-5828785-Jul2022/

Has anyone seen reichsmark anon recently?

>>50828402
>kilos are badass
Number 5 is due at my doorstep in a couple of days. My box will be full, and my OCD satisfied. Finally be able to stack government coins.

>>50829221
>and my OCD satisfied

A 5th bar wont fully fill that box and i see a small space remaining that will cause the bars to move around and scratch each other.

>>50829077
Hey man thats AWARD WINNING you know

>>50829258
I'm looking for some sort of foam padding to place between. Stop trying to rustle my disorder.

>>50829194
Nope, last I've seen was about a week ago >>50716863.

>>50829338
Sorry anon you gotta buy a sightly bigger box and get 6 kilos

I just like how shiny it is and how it goes ding when you ding it

>>50829389
>6
even number
Yeah, and I'm the crazy one.

>>50829444
Checked.

>>50827499
>>50827821

I found one in my change once. Shocked the cashier gave me 99 cents back instead of just eating the penny. Lucky day!

>>50829338
Try anti-tarnish felt cloth. You can zig-zag a long strip between the bars. Will help prevent tarnish, too.

End fiat money.

Ok /pmg I just got a bunch of cash and I need to turn it into something tangible. Gonna buy mostly stock of course, but a certain percentage I’m converting to precious metal. Not gonna do gold, because gold/silver ratio is fucking insane, it has been for about 100 years I guess lol, except for a few brief moments like back in 1980. It only makes sense to buy silver. Here’s the thing they say bars are bad, there a “commodity” eagles are legal tender and so is the 90% junk silver. I’ve been thinking the best investment is the eagles. But… I like half dollars, quarters, and Merc dimes. There so small, divisible and…. Concealable. Is there any reason I shouldn’t buy MOSTLY junk silver?
The melt value of 90% coins is what it is at the end of the day right? It’s just the 35% war nickles that are worthless for melt value right?

>>50829637
Here's a war nickel I found in a roll of nickels I got from the bank when nickels were up near 8 cents per.

>>50829660
Thanks fren. This seems to be the best solution. Otherwise I'd have to buy another box and a couple more kilos.

>>50829739

>End fiat money.

Literally anti-semitic statement. The authorities have been notified, and the zogbots deployed.

>>50829809
your tricks have no power here

>>50829809

>>50827915
What do you think of these (pic related)? https://silvergoldbull.com/random-year-austrian-1-ducat-gold-coin

>>50829887
I'd rather have 1 sov than 2 ducats, and I'm not even the sovnigger. It feels to thin and unsubstantial to me.

>>50824439
my display stack has increased by a couple hand pours I sneed on APMEX, i always try to post something from my stack

>>50829887
Ducats are restrikes, made in the 1970's, even though they're marked as 1915. The premiums on them are higher than the regular francs, I would go with a .1867 random year franc for $360 than 2 ducats for $410. The francs are going to be genuine to their years and not restrikes as well.
https://findbullionprices.com/p/20-Francs-Gold-Coin/
Also
https://findbullionprices.com/p/Austrian-8-florin-gold-coin-20-Francs-1867-oz-gold-coin/

>>50829887
ducats are cool, but they're like pringles man. stamped so thin!

>>50829194
>>50829350
Still waiting on the funds. My bank doesn't have a swift code but they want to send via swift. The real issue is they take 3-4 days just to reply back to emails so its taking forever. I don't think they are feeling particularly inclined to make it their priority since its not something they can show off in their "successful projects" list with all the faggot hipster shit

>>50824927
>I also like the American innovation $1 coin series, I bought the reverse proof 2021 set because I wanted the rotated-die "VIDEO GAMES" coin
Didn't know they had a video game one. I'm fond of that series too though. Very nice designs.
>I still like a lot of the America the beautiful series
As do I. I save any bat quarters I come across and it's fun looking for W quarters. Although I've never found one lol.
>>50828621
Antique store. $4
It does still have a latch but needed new nails on the hinges which it does now.

>>50829944
>Marked 1915
>Were struck in the 70's
The fuck? How is somebody supposed to know when they were actually struck? What kind of stupid ass decision was that?

>>50830060
Yeah it's a pretty neat coin. Not only for potential /v/ material but also the reverse die is intentionally rotated clockwise 90 degrees. It's a very bizarre coin and a family member offered to buy me something cheap from the mint website as a birthday present, so I said why not.

>>50824750
>>50824844
C'mon guys I'm really trying.
Also what will this get me?
>>50826112
Hell yeag

>>50829753
I found one too!

I had a 42 quarter I carried around for about 20 years.....until I decided to beat it into a ring and give it away

>>50825384
I love the ATB series. I got lucky when Silver dropped under $20 in 2020. I picked up 30x of the San Antonio Mission series for like $95 each.

>My bank doesn't have a swift code
It's over lads

>>50830065
lots of restrikes are like that, even Swiss Misses (which are fucking based af) are mostly restrikes (in case you're wondering why so many are stamped 1936)

>>50830056
thank you for keeping us in the loop, those homos need to hurry tho, i need the frenmarks

>>50830087
>I love the ATB series
Good tune to.

https://youtu.be/nUQ3ErjL5wU

>>50830065
>>50829926
>>50829944
SHUT THE FUCK UP DUCATS ARE BASED AS FUCK NIGGERS FUCK YOUUUUUUG
>>50830020
>>50829887
Beautiful. Ducats are wonderful coins.
>>50830079
Wonder if there's any errors where the die is at a normal angle. It's nice to have family who saves coins for you. My mom gave me a rolls worth of wheaties and 2 mercs she found in an old piggy bank last time I saw her.
>>50829637
>>50827426
I found an injun head penny at the family dollar just sitting on a shelf by the register once when I was 14.
>>50827499
Where do you go to find cool shit like that? All I find is clad and a copper penny if I'm lucky. I found a 1966 quarter the other day and was extremely pissed.

>>50830020
I have about 3 or 4 francs and recently got 2 1 ducat coins because it was all I could afford at the time thanks to my degenerate stacking habits as of late. I agree with >>50829944 and will probably stick to francs, and also pick up a few British sovs for the variety.

>>50830065
>How is somebody supposed to know when they were actually struck?
You aren't (Unless you an expert numismatist who knows all the die stages for those coins).
>What kind of stupid ass decision was that?
Buying back-dated restrike Ducats was one of the only ways for US citizens to legally buy Gold in the 60s and early 70s since Ducats were exempt from the ban on Gold in effect at the time.
100 Coronas and other restrikes were made for the domestic market back in Austria to get around other arbitrary restrictions they had placed on themselves, but a lot of restrike ducats were exported to the US.

>>50830097
most local credit unions dont. The solution as I send to them in pic rel is quite simple they just take a fucking week to reply.
>>50830120
I emailed the 5th and messaged 10 hours and still waiting.

Is everything I just bought ok?

I really want China to retake rebel held Formosa. The financial shockwaves would cause PMs to spike like never before. Crypto would spike as well, as 90% of chip makers would be unable to produce as Chicom troops take the island.
of course the low T men and neckbeards think that a country retaking their rebel held areas is bad, unless the country is white, then it is good.

>>50829221
>>50829258
It'll never fully be full

>>50829739
>End fiat money.
NO GOYIM YOU CANT BUY METALS THEY HAVE NO VALUEEEEEE

>>50829221
Are these JBR bars?

I’ve tested this and it’s silver, it weighs 160 grams, anyone recognize the make or anything about it? Vintage silver lighter no markings at all.

>>50830381
Final Warning
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%27s_final_warning#:~:text=%22China's%20final%20warning%22%20(Russian,that%20carries%20no%20real%20consequences.

>>50830381
>I really want China to retake rebel held Formosa
>steps in your way
hah, nothing personal kid

>>50829221
>buys a box of silver dilators
I guess stacking is stacking but ffs you're really pushing the limits of what's acceptable

>>50830381
China is in enough shit as is, Taiwan is just them distracting their own population from internal issues

>>50830306
I assumed people in the US generally bought pre '33 gold under the guise of "coin collecting" (The big coin collecting company Whitman started in 1934, conspicuously just one year after the gold ban....) or smuggled over gold Krugers when they were first struck but that's pretty cool. So basically another government said "fuck you US laws" with its coins like how Mexico started its cartels smuggling Tequila and China is sending out shitloads of full auto kits for Glocks in the US?
VERY based if so.

>>50830409
I'm thinking 10ouncers to fill the void in the box, and in my soul. But first I need government bullion.

Meme coin delivered in 1.5 days

>>50830458
>Are these JBR bars?
Valcambi

>>50830513

>>50830577
>pushing the limits of what's acceptable

>>50823541
>>50824045
captshit tard fuck off with your marvel bing bang wahoo
if society was working properly then you people would be fixed up

>>50825384
>Based ATB enjoyers
Big boi rounds

>>50830065
meant to be used as a bullion round, not as a gay numismatic collectible

>>50830622
>I assumed people in the US generally bought pre '33 gold under the guise of "coin collecting"
I think most of the common stuff was illegal. You could still own a high relief 1907 St. Gaudens and other Key Dates, but you couldn't load up on common date Double Eagles.
>smuggled over gold Krugers when they were first struck
That actually was very common as evidenced by all the pre-legalization Krugs floating around in the US, but Krugs only started being produced in 1967 and didn't have fractional which is where the demand for Ducats came in.
>So basically another government said "fuck you US laws" with its coins
It was a bit more clandestine than that, Austria started making its restrike Ducats before 1933 and they started getting imported to the US later on by third parties taking advantage of a loophole.
>China is sending out shitloads of full auto kits for Glocks in the US?
Really?
I knew about the cartels with Tequila, but nothing about this.

>>50830828
>full auto kits

they were doing it, not doing it much anymore. and not a kit, just a backplate you replace that provides you with a giggle switch fits most 3rd gen glocks

the gen 5 glocks actually have a polymer block on the back that is supposed to stop you from doing that (like they have never heard of fret snips before). the tech behind it is so easy though feel free to 3d print your own or if youre a psycho you can always mill it out of hand tools

unrelated pro-tip: 3/4 pipe will fit a 12 gauge snug perfectly :)

>>50830828
ohhh but you could buy them on alibaba and wish.com for a while

same with the "oil filters" that you can "easily" turn into suppressors

but that shit glows to high hell

Newest stack addition.

>>50831002
Is that that old Libertarian politician, Chad Paul?

>>50830729
Lul

>>50831104
Just imagine how much it'll be worth after he's no longer with us. He's the only 20th century American politician worth being putting on a silver coin, other than Trump for the lulz.

>>50822810
just got pic related bracelet in the mail.

22g of 10k
rolex style with small diamonds
$547 including shipping and customs duties

I'm surprised a mutt didn't buy it because it would have been slightly under spot without the exchange rate fee and ebay GSP duty fee.

>>50831180
Maybe. I don't think it really looks like him though.

>>50830513
Looks art deco maybe 1920's 1930's that's my best guess. Very nice find Anon.

>>50827378
yep

>>50831182
Is that from Ebay? Ever get worried about getting ripped off?

>>50830729
watch out frens.
theres danger out there

>>50831182
same as pic related which the biggest scrap dealer in my city is selling for 2700CAD

>>50830513
It's plated my guy.

>>50831220
i've had pretty good luck on ebay. Just look for stuff that is marked, make sure the color is correct, and stuff like that. the worst is items just not arriving which has happened 3 times for me in the last year (i'm filing an item not arrived case right now).

You just have to be prudent about what you buy because if you do too many returns ebay will ban you, so you have to be relatively certain what you are getting is legit.

I buy scrap gold locally as well and i only have a few pieces i am suspicious of. One is a ring that says 14k inside the band but there is an acid splash mark next to it making me think it might be 14k HGE or something else, but i have filed deeply into it and it still tests good but i am still suspicious.

>>50830513
no marking is a bad sign desu. I saw an 18k lighter on ebay locally a while ago that sold for around spot x 1.1 that i wish i had bought but i'd probably have lost it by now anyway.

>>50831250
Yeah I know it’s plated, I’d be surprised if it wasn’t, with that weight what other metals could be in it? I’ve heard nickel is the typical metal for lighters. Also hoping someone here recognizes the make, style, or something as I have no info on it besides that it’s definitely silver(plated) and it’s vintage, easily 70+ years old. >>50831311
Yeah really hard to find any info on it.

>>50822810
I'm probably going to sell my roll of 40% halves sometime soon. It's just not the same.

>>50831182
>$60 of shipping fees
For this alone i wouldn't have boughted it. Seriously, wtf is wrong with these faggots? Shipping costs are through the fucking roof it's insane.
Over here they rose up the prices of all the stamps by 11% every 6 months for the past 4 years lol... And it's 11% because they legally are limited to this amount since the postal service is 50% owned by the government... If it wasn't those fuckers would pull a +50% every time, knowing full well they have a complete monopoly.
Fucking scam i want to shoot all the postniggers in the head.

>>50831397
part of that is the ebay GSP duty fee - where you prepay the duty fee so that you dont have to pay when it arrives. I prefer it because one of the big hassles about international orders is arguing about duty fees in order to get your package.

>>50831182
You buy a lot of poorly fitting women's jewelry.

>>50831439
it's just scrap gold.

>>50831415
>duty fee
Yet another fucking scam!
By July 2021, in the dead of the night while everybody was asleep and in vacation, the (((EU commission))) pulled up a new +20% extra VAT tax on ANY import if it's coming from a non-EU country. No matter if it's just your cousin sending you a pins' from switzerland, you gonna pay up 20% extra.
But the real fun begin there : all the postal services then added (((gestion of duty fees))) fees who are 9€ (at least over here). So let say i import something worth 10 bux, i'm gonna pay 2 bux in extra taxes PLUS 9€ of ""gestion"" (which is just scanning the fucking package, nothing more). So i'd end up paying 21€ for 10€ worth of items.
And ofc they keep the package hostage until you decide to pay for it. It's so fucking disgusting i want to burn down this judeocracy to the ground man.

IVE GOT ENOUGH OF GETTING SCAMMED LEFT AND RIGHT I CANT HANDLE ANY MORE OF THIS SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>50831447
pic related are two i wish i had bought but hesitated on. top is 23g doggo cufflinks with a cool texture. the second one are 20g cufflinks iwth a greco-roman motif that sold for 738 CAD (572USD)

I just hate the shipping company that is used for the final mile of international ebay orders in canada that i couldnt deal with the stress of more than one package coming in through ravenforce.

>>50831521
kek. the ebay gsp fee is i think around 10% and the currency conversion is 5% which is a hassle but sometimes worth it when you find cheapies. i prefer locally but local ebay really doesn't have very much.

>>50831521
is there much in terms of gold on EU ebay? I never see eurozone sellers for some reason. In canada the only sellers that are really visible to me are canada, america, and for some reason japan.

>>50828557
holy shit that was a good read

>>50828557
you have to test it somehow...

thats cringe

>>50830381
I believe in the right of secession. So of course Taiwan should be left alone. Also, Taiwan is a de facto nuclear power and China knows it. Did you really think that the fucking Indians, Pakis, and North Koreans could develop Nukes and Taiwan, under constant existential threat from China, couldn't or wouldn't? They are among the nations that are considered to be "a screwdriver turn away" from an operational Nuke (Japan is also). So there isn't going to be any invasion of Taiwan. All of this shit is just a show.

>>50831552
>the currency conversion is 5%
lmaoo
Is there a more jewish company out there than ebay? As if they weren't doing enough money with their 13% commission on sales + listing fees + insurances + visibility bonuses....
It's literally impossible to make a living arbitraging on ebay if you are a small fish anymore. And it's all by design.

>>50831599
There used to, but now the offer is fucking pityful. It's not limited to gold, silver and plat listing are almost nonexistant too. At least compared to what it was last year.
Truth is ppl are waking up to the fact our society is in terminal phase of collapsing, and they are rushing to pick up what will retain some value.

Now most ended auctions i see for sov gold/junk silver have 50+ biddings on them. And even though the silver (((spot))) went down, the same items are selling for more than what they used to back when the spot was hovering around $27-28.
I know bcuz i bought for around 1k oz of silver on ebay over the past 2 years.

goodnight frens sleep tight

>>50831708
i wonder how long it will be before gold and silver start really being hard to find. I've been stacking hard for the last few years and figure lots of others have been doing the same. when hyper inflation happens in canada i think maybe 1% will have tons and the rest won't be able to buy any even if they wanted to.

>>50831741
Good morning sirs.

>>50831860
pls qt3.14 sirs i am to bed now show bobs and vagene

>>50831790
68.5% people own a house in Cuckadia. People have some assets. Give them some credit.

>>50831898
What percentage of them own their houses outright instead of paying rent to the bank?

>>50824541
I'm tempted to buy a state quarter album but fill it with the silver proofs.
>>50825614
fukken saved
>>50826019
same, I have less than two complete rolls of 90% halves. I need more.
>>50827378
Yes. At my cashier wagie I separate all the pre-82s and replace them with my modern zinc trash. Instant profit.

>>50831898
yeah, but almost none own gold and silver, and house prices collapse relative gold and silver during hyper inflation.

>>50831913
Good point anon, I don't think wiki gives that breakdown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate

>>50831891
2d bobs are the best sirs.

>>50831957
i wish i was good at taking pictures.

>>50831928
Get your friends to buy gold. I just told my close friend and he bought some gold. He bought 916 instead of 999, but gold is gold.

>>50831965
I just wish I owned that much gold and that cute animu.

>>50831976
most normies simply don't get it.

>>50831957
>>50831965
my bastards i bid you goodnight!

>>50832029
good night fren.

>>50831660
Well. At least it's a new coin...
>>50831631
Yeah that guy's either a troll, a child, a Romanian, or an actual retard.

>>50831999
Unfortunate, but trips of truth.

payment clears in 8 days, should get it within 3-6 months (its definitely not september)

>>50832029
Good night sirs.

>>50832096
what camera are you using? I have a iphone 13 pro but cant take a good picture with it to save my life.

>>50832487
Its not mine. I saved this from previous /pmg/ threads.

>>50832731
i wish i knew how to capture the beauty of pic related. the way it shines is so crazy. paid more than spot but have never seen a similar ring in person in my life. shines like the headlights of a car.

>>50832766
I have a cast bar that looks so good IRL but I can't take a good picture of it. Pic rel, but its from the seller.

>>50832766
Put it against a dark background and use two small, bright, point sources of light. See if you there's an ISO setting on the camera and keep that number low. This will cause the exposure to be long. Therefore both the phone and the object have to be rock-steady. Keep the angle of the face close to 90 degrees (perpendicular) to the lens, but it's okay to angle it a bit if you want to see some of the shape of the diamonds. Keep the orientation horizontal - on big screens where this will look best, you'll be able to occupy the most screen real estate.

pic rel is selling copper for $0.20 under the price of this in britan, by the kg, if it isnt fake
and you get your own logo
is this a scam?

>>50832936
is that alibaba?

because it would be $845, and be $100 in profit
or if for currency conversions and delivery, $62 profit, to know that is 31 pounds of copper kept
>>50832998
yes
im looking for an excuse to fill a delivery because they have novelty currency with expensive delivery

>>50833016
alibaba is the last place i would buy bullion from.

>>50830877
the FA kits are hilarious, I think an underprivileged youth of color AR15 can shoot up to 500-600 rounds a minute while a undocumented migrant Glock can fire at a retarded fast rate of 1200 rounds per minute. I love watching the magdumps on Youtube. God the NFA act is so fucking gay, I want to shoot that kind of stuff someday.

>>50833027
its only copper but buying bulk im being cautious. sometimes they have some gems

>>50833049
chinese diamonds are actually good nowadays and the prices are dropping daily. i'm looking at stones right now.

a listing for bronze
>>50833065
where do they get them from

>>50833074
they make them. tianyu is one of the biggest lab diamond manufacturers in china. they are a vertically integrated company that sells through their terrible webstore.

>>50833086
i dont trust it

>>50833092
heh. there is legit stuff in china but legit companies don't need to sell on alibaba.

NEWBIES, BEWARE OF HUSTLERS ON /BIZ/. ONLY BUY FROM REPUTABLE OUTLETS.

>>50833109
nobody on this thread is selling anything.

>>50833103
well they should

>>50833121
nobody outside of china buys this stuff anyway. nowadays chinese can make everything else and few people outside china have skills to make anything - even with access to cheap stones. the chinks will just use the stones to make rings and chains and send them straight to johnny dang types so they can be sold to niggers at a 100x markup.

>>50833135
for now, its copper pounds

>>50833157
are the alibaba copper bullion just chinese copies of british bullion?

>>50833171
i hope so. i think its some kind of wildlife thing though, a deer? so long as its copper

What's /pmg/'s opinion on buying back from dealers and pawn shops?

>>50832936
Those prices are per piece within those quantity ranges (and you have to buy a minimum of 300 pieces, per the grey text).
Copper is about $3.55 per pound avdp, or 22 cents per oz avdp (I assume their "oz" is avdp, the common unit for base metals).
Thus, they are selling at $19.04 per pound avdp in lots of 1,000+.
Even at 20 cents less per piece (99 cents) in lots of 1,000, that comes out to $15.84/oz avdp.
That's about 4 and a half times the spot price of Cu.
I'll pass, thanks.

>>50833391
>you have to buy a minimum of 300 pieces
Whoops - if you're getting custom engraving.

>>50833390
Two different animals. Dealers are reputable, and you can shop around.
For pawn shops, prepare by knowing the spot price and your limits, you shouldn't get taken. I expect you won't find any deals though - they're pretty ruthless.

>>50823876
Boomers will also have that stacked and if someone offers them silver they will think its time to start trading it in before trading silver comes with a huge premium
People have been trading silver for goods regardless of collapses since the beginning of money

>>50825057
>>50823898
I'm going to keep your daughter safe after I kill you

>>50827298
Where can a get a chest like this without paying $500 to an artfag?
Should I just make one myself?

>>50827378
Based but don't go out of your way to find them let them come to you
Make sure to spend the extra 5 seconds checking coin machines because you also might find silver I found this baby and a roosevelt after checking 10 times

>>50833689
Literally on Facebook marketplace. About the only reason to even login that shit.
>>50833669
btfo from the daughter! She's mine. You can have his wife instead.

>>50826112

am I the only one who thinks pictures like this are awkward? look at this nerd with the binocular, what the fuck he was even looking at with this both stupid bitches aside? also the whole crowd looks like stupid, even back then there should be places to hang around except the fucking harbour.

>>50833391
the jannity deleted all of my posts (and yours too) but i wanted to say thanks for working it out, if i had done it wrong.
if you put it your way then yes i am being scammed. so i wont get it, thanks again for protecting me like that

>>50833610
>People have been trading silver for goods regardless of collapses since the beginning of money
Yeah that was when each individual wasn't highly dependend on public infrastructure like electricity and water and had jobs and knowledge related to the production of goods or food for the community.
There is no going back from the current state because there are way too many people that dont know how to do anything useful in a SHTF scenario. Pray it never happens.

>>5082473based Czech Republic

>Even fucking reddit is naming the jew

>>50827298
Haven't really bought anything lately. Maybe I'll get a few small goldies again.
Bit hesitant to make large transactions lately.

>>50834090
who?

>>50832089
>Yeah that guy's either a troll, a child, a Romanian, or an actual retard.
>Romanian
Ah I knew it. You can tell because they all type the same.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gold/comments/wkpu20/-/ijoxdu2

>>50833115
We are though. WAGMI, Aputtania, Anime Prospector etc.

>>50825003
N N N N N N N N - Nugget! Nice.

I also want to pick up like 5 of those and 10 1/10 ounces. Neat coin and I like Australian gold after watching documentaries on how it is mined over there.

>>50832766
it looks gayer than fucking shit dude

just saying, diamonds are a womans best friend....they are no friend to a man

>>50834649
what country are you from?

I hold 24k gold bars only and bitcoins
I am wondering why everyone here is stacking silver and not 24k goldbars which is 99.99% pure.

Can anyone tell me why you niggas are holding Silver? Don't you know what happened to the hunt brothers in 1971 and they recently found a 12 trillion gold deposit in Uganda.
You would be a fool not to hold some BTC as well.

>>50835073
Read >>50827926. I can only speak for myself though.

>>50835106
Oh, I now get why people buy silver coins. Basically as a medium of exchange or unit of account aka money.
Here is my take on this. We know China and Russia want to issue a BRICS currency backed by gold and commodities. Here is the thing anon, they will all use a permissioned or permissionless digital ledger, aka blockchain.

I don't see gold as money, at least in our current technocratic timeline. 100 years ago, before the First Industrial Revolution I would have agreed.

>>50835073
That graph is extremely biased. You could add so many other things like easily traceable transactions and Bitcoin would be high (I.e., that’s bad for you smooth brains).

>>50835073
>Smart (Programmable)

Yeah this is a bad thing.

>>50835212
Easily traceable transactions, not so easy with offline transactions through meshnetworks and wallets that can scramble UTXO's.
Sender remains anon, sender location remains anon. ISP can't censor you.

Point out, in detail, what traits of money that you find biased?


>>50835247
For people who can't program perhaps.

good morning my bloody bastards

>>50835073
How the fuck is gold not decentralized? Also
>durable
>a single wrong keystroke and it's gone forever

>>50835403
Gold is not decentralized, the value of gold in dollars are in the hands of sovereign entities like central banks and governments around the world. Dollar issuance, money supply was directly correlated with the amount of a gold a country had. The central banks known damn well that Gold threatens the supremacy of the dollar, therefore it's suppressed by the Western Zio Banks. I am none the less bullish on gold because I know the BRICS will issue a currency that is directly backed by gold, energy and commodities.

Single wrong keystroke. Responsibility lies in the user. QR codes fixes this.

>>50835073
>bashing silver, a physical element thats on the periodic table, that took a shit load of man hours and diesel to extract

>promoting bitcoin, ponziest of ponzi schemes that you cant even touch

very cringe and unbased sir post your gold on hood of car otherwise ur gay and lying

>>50835478
>muh price manipulation
1 ozt = 1 ozt

What’s better /pmg? 90% silver pre 1964 coins or American silver eagles? I’m in a rough spot because.. I feel like eagles are the better investment, but damn I like them old silver quarters and dimes and shit. Seems like a great way to keep your precious metal divisible and concealable.

>>50835547
Nobody cares if silver is a physical element on the periodic table. If cheese was scarce, and had low supply issuance, low emission, and Austrian economist like Menger were raving about it. We would have adopted a cheese-standard.

>Charactistics of a ponzi-scheme.
Consistent returns (bitcoin doesn't promise consistent returns)
Difficulty receiving payments. (never had a issue)
Secretive (bitcoin is open source, 100,000 + volunteers are working on the bitcoin protocol)
Most importantly, the user must stake for a ponzi to work. (Can withdraw and sell at anytime)

I am not lying. I do hold gold.

>>50829637
>trips on date
Checked

>>50835547
Major issues I have with gold.
>I can't buy a 24K goldbar with cash. I have to go through a electronic payment processor if I buy more than $5000 worth of gold. Bitcoin fixes this, JPBullion except bitcoin for gold.
The premium I pay for buying gold under $5000 is around $200 per bar.
Secondly, you have to pay taxes over Gold unless you pay with cash and hoard it anonymously.

You can bash on bitcoin all you want but merchants accept bitcoin throughout the world.
During Venezuela financial crisis, people were not stacking gold but Bitcoin and payments were done in Bitcoin through radio signals.

>>50835547
only useful as a store of value.

Got a roll of 2022 P mint dragons and one of the previous years each, will be my cope until we get a new queens beast dragon.

>>50835662
Don't eagles have insane premiums?

>>50822810
is that coin clipped...?

>>50835942
There legal tender though. So premium might be worth it

>>50835873
newfag

>a reserve (of silver) drops 90% (9 billion) in total
>millions (of silver) starts to go into R&D

>>50836718
Nice imagine. It's easy to forget just how profound the fundamental case is for silver. Especially when it feels like the manipulation will never end.

>>50835073
>they recently found a 12 trillion gold deposit in Uganda.
>You would be a fool not to hold some BTC as well.

This is why metalboomers will never take you cryptokeks and your precious digivapor ledger entries which are exposed to significant network risk particularly seriously.