/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50748020
just secured an uncommon female first name for .2 the other day
can't wait til to sell it for 10+ in a few years.

how the fuck does one even sell a fucking domain bros ?let’s assume you got a good domain which could be worth a few eth, as soon as you list it it gets buried underneath a shit ton of meme listings of numbers of arabic shit and that’s it. you’re just bagholding hoping that maybe some day someone actually looks it up to see if it’s available aand maybe wants it bad enough to make you an offer. am i missing something ?

>>50748020
.BTC domains OP

>>50748751
>you’re just bagholding hoping that maybe some day someone actually looks it up to see if it’s available aand maybe wants it bad enough to make you an offer
I mean that's pretty much it, this is a problem only because we're early or your name generally has no demand. Being active on twitter or elsewhere in the community, making offers and having sales will direct some eyes to your collection. Otherwise you just have to baghold through the pain, 80% of activity right now is just resellers buying off of each other and filling up their bags for the main event. I have 400+ ENS, most of them I registered on my own because they were total blindspots in the larger community. The good thing is I will have massive ROI, the bad thing is there will barely be any offers for a while and my portfolio is looking dry as fuck with 0 liquidity left for anything. If you think getting buried is a problem right now (which it is) come back a bit later when there's a horde of normie retailers speculating on new registrations. The good thing is at some point most will realise that literally every useful domain has already been registered and we'll have better filters to find potentially desirable names.

tldr; patience fren

>>50748859
I don't know much about .btc yet but you can already use your ENS to redirect to Ethereum and Bitcoin wallets both simultaneously and Ethereum is the clear winner in terms of actual dapps being built on it. I still like Stacks for what they're trying to do in general but in the end Ethereum already does it with more functionality. I already said in the last thread that every pajeet developer is making their own ENS spin-off but ultimately it's gonna be similar to .com where 90% of the value flows towards the OG most established TLD, that's pretty important if you're here to speculate and make money. No hate if you're just an average normie end-user that doesn't care about buying/selling names or having a flexable name. There's also SIWE (Sign in with ethereum) which might become the most important aspect of having a .eth but we'll see how it's implemented.

>>50748751
since you seem like one of the few /biz/raelis who might actually be receptive to spoonfeeding...
>twitter
and I don't mean unsolicited shilling in everyone's replies, I mean there are accounts run by people solely to be market makers for ENS names by soliciting shills and curating all the good (and cheap) shit.
>ENSTradingPost
>zerozerocoins
>ENSGrail
they're not huge accounts yet but ENSTP has gone from 1k to almost 4k followers in barely over a month. Probably the best place to shill desu. Sometimes if an okay name doesn't sell for like .05 he'll buy it himself.

If you have a name of a certain "category" (3 digits, 10k club, single emojis, male first names, etc.) chances are it's categorized on ens.vision. They just added the ability to list ENS names at 1.5% royalties compared to OpenSea's 2.5%. I've only been selling through ens.vision since they released it. Sold a 2-digit keycap and a few 3-digit keycaps this way for 7+ ETH

But if you have something like frog.eth or leonard.eth, you're just waiting for that ONE guy who will come along and pay whatever price he needs to for that one particular word. Could be weeks, could be years, but he will come knocking.
(bonus points if it's a pre-punk name)

>>50748020
would you recommend registering for one year, or more? i have been doing three years
feel like i have some good 5-letter ones

>>50748751
The market will become more efficient in time but ya this is annoying as fuck. The non standard character shit too is beyond annoying

>>50749118
I do 2+ years for peace of mind, even if it's something I'm not too bullish on. If it's 4 or less characters I go year to year.

>>50748751
Just patience anon. I held Ethmoji triples that I thought were good for 9 months, without a single bit of interest in them, and then a whale came and bought two of them in a sudden flurry of interest, now nobody gives a shit again.
If you want guaranteed liquidity you can buy 3 and 4 digits which are by far the most legitimately traded and in-demand categories, but apart from that all you can do is buy and wait.

Not much of a baghold when I 10x’d the cost on dumping the airdrop.

>>50749133
are names starting with 0x dumb? will people buy them

>>50749207
also curious about dashes. word1-word2.eth

>>50749207
depends. some people like them, I think they're tacky as fuck. if it's 0x[some premium word] maybe, but it's not on my radar.
>>50749232
I've got a lot of hyphenated words. But actual hyphenated words like ex-wife, corn-fed, etc. Otherwise it's just a knockoff of the real thing (bit-coin, cum-dumpster, joe-biden). Still some value but most people aren't gonna rock knockoff names as a flex.

I wish these were on a different network so that they were actually worth something

>>50749135
there is no point in buying that 3-4 digit shit when there are actual non pump and dump opportunities still left. just buy and hold until someone wants your domain. It will probably take years but unless its a 3-4 length i will just register it for 10 years straight. we are so fucking early that the amount of registered domains is still zero compared to what it will be in a few years.

>>50748020
1

pretty comfy with my purchase of adamfriedland.eth
a golden age awaits us brothers

>>50749331
digits are the most liquid niche due to their fungability

liquidity attracts liquidity. people like being able to exit their position whenever they want

digits are way better than a random word that might not see a buyer for 2 years. digits liquidity is driving the entire ens market. if you're day 1 in ens how the fuck can you tell how much table.eth is worth? its impossible. but anyone can grab a floor digit, sit on it for 6 months, and exit whenever they want.

but in general yes we're way too early and anyone actually selling domains and reducing their exposure in 2022 is absolutely retarded.

some poorfag bizlet sold his grail iceland.eth for 2e at the very start of the bullrun, could get 20e today, and probably 50e in a year

>>50749118
1 Year is good until then we'll probably have a solution to the gas problem (right now gas is cheap too).
>>50749207
>>50749232
>0x
I see them being registered and used but only really solid ones have some resell value. They have really low volume all across the board right now. Probably not worth minting because all the good ones are already gone. Not worth buying either if you want to resell imo.
>hyphens
Makes sense if the words are actually often written that way or it's part of the brand name, also has some readability value. Although LVMH registered stuff like hublot-watches and more (see pic related or look up hublot.eth on ens.domains to see all of them) there's no telling if they're willing to pay a premium for those already taken. Somewhat underrated but I also wouldn't get ahead of myself with them.

>>50749411
>some poorfag bizlet sold his grail iceland.eth for 2e at the very start of the bullrun, could get 20e today, and probably 50e in a year
kek so true, pic related

>>50749331
I'm not talking about "Senegalese 100k club" and all that retarded shit. Just the OG digits. They are nearly always the top categories on ENS vision, and it's for a reason. They are by far the most "guaranteed" of any domain. If you have a billion ENS users and your address is 320.eth it is a huge flex. I drove past a Range Rover today with 7788 custom plates and it reminded me how much people like this shit.

>>50749207
0x common names(like 0xdavid) are being slept on imo

any clean deriv 5+ chars has great risk vs reward if you're willing to wait for a few years

any kind of name that end users are already using(number subs - dav1d) is going to have high demand in a few years. theres only 500k users, 10-100mil seems inevitable.

once we reach those kinds of numbers anything remote aesthetic will have decent value(1e+). poorfags will let go these kinds of domains today for $100-200 profit because they minted them for $5

>>50749411
Everything solid is going to 100% moon so why bother taking the risk with that pumped up shit gayclub when everything else has basically zero risk.

>>50749672
there's no risk with numbers retard
they're fucking numbers
the whole planet worships numbers
just look at how much people obsess over digits on this mongolian basketweaving board

>>50748020
Tfw have a triple pure emoji that barely anyone has even looked at, reg expires in november what do??

>>50749756
keep bagholding your barcode npc

>>50749672
>>50749782
I failed to mint any 3 digit or 4 digit because I was skeptical at first as well, but with timeI decided they make more sense than anything.
No word is as global as numbers. Nothing is as unambiguous as being in the "top 1000" addresses. Criticising the original 3D/4D is wild, anon, they are the most obvious play out there.

>>50749672
Imagine of all the retarded clubs and shit being minted you hate on 3 and 4 digits. lol. lmao even.
>>50749765
Make sure it's seen on ens.vision and have it listed for a decent price

>>50749765
you shouldve sold 2 weeks ago when everyone was hyped on them retard
probably wont get a chance to sell them before november but you never know. just list them at the floor if you really want out

>>50749933
All of these forced clubs are shit and only gives you small profits or if any at all. Buy solid domains outside of the pajeet clubs while you still can get them for cheap. You can get literally country names or popular last/first names for cheaper than 4 digits.

>>50750071
>All of these forced clubs are shit
they're fucking numbers nigger, it's the most intuitive thing on the planet
>You can get literally country names or popular last/first names for cheaper than 4 digits.
4 digit floor is 1 eth
you can't find a country name under 2 eth, and even then it's only floor countries like burkina and easttimor.
and you DEFINITELY aren't getting a popular first/last name for under 1 ETH. Not anymore anyway, that ship has sailed.
imagine fudding numbers of all things. Humans were counting before words were even invented. It's not some retarded fad like all the 0x shit or hyphenated 3-letters. There's only 10,000 4-digit numbers and only 1,000 3-digit numbers in existence. Period. Not everyone is going to be interested in having a number as their web3 identity, but out of the 5 billion people who use the internet today, there's bound to be a few thousand of them willing to bid up numbers just to flex. It's also just nice to have a 3/4-digit for convenience sake.
>yeah just send it to 3252.eth
and you can have something else set as your primary ENS name at the same time.

My current tactic is registering the online names of high ego narcissistic twitter tech people with some probability of them going into blockchain at some point.

Think of people like Tetranode, but who are still not in crypto. Such ego maniacs will pay a huge amount of money to have the "tetranode.eth" no matter what. A lot of waiting time obviously, but even if you get just one person correct you'll be in mad profit for it

>>50750330
High ego could just as easily backfire on you if they're too proud to pay off a squatter for huge amounts. Anyway I hope at least one of them goes your expected route. You're absolutely right that getting even one of them right means you're in profit, that's why ENS has such a good risk/reward ratio.

>>50748020
Fuckin elon piece of shit musk start shilling your deadbeat shiba dog so i can get rid of my ens for low 7 figures and be done