/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>5072428
How much is your portfolio worth? Likely you didnt actually make it yet

>>5072428
no because I fixed my depression caused by dopamine and serotonin definciany by taking zoloft and now I only feel 2 things: Smugness, and anger

>>5072474
>he fell for the big pharma jew

>>5072474
>>5072471
>>5072428

Idiots, get a job and stop trying to cheat. You will suffer from schizophrenia later in life and waste your money on hookers.

>>5072428
>its fun, and you win easily
Not when you're all in on ARK.

unless youre worth 10mm bare minimum you haven't made it

also, if you're worth more than 1mm and arent happy youre behaving unintelligently and making errors

>>5072502
Kekked pretty hard thanks

>>5072428
>rare stories of people who "make it" then just suicide out of nowhere.
(((suicide)))
but seriously if you're rich and depressed you really should promptly kill yourself since you're a waste of money

>>5072428
I can help you, i need money to be able to support myself i'm disabled, if crypto doesn't work out i'll probably kill myself

>>5072428
Haven't made it yet, but I feel like that's how it'll go down. Just like cheating in GTA.

>>5072504
>>5072502
you jealous I got over my depression instantly while you have to try. but you wont succeed :)=
take the smug pill

>>5072624
It's always fun getting 1,000,000,000,000 at first then the excitement wears off

>>5072474
do antidepressants work forever?

>>5072525
gosh the "made it" number seems to go up every month on /biz/

>>5072561
my suicide would actually make most of /biz/ richer by locking away supply forever.

>>5072866
>gosh the "made it" number seems to go up every month on /biz/
it's inflation

>>5072866
only decent antidepressant is tianeptine, all SSRI garbage will destroy your soul and turn you into a husk of a man

>>5072428
if you make 100k first then it will soon feel like pennies, then youll make a million and soon it feels like pennies and you will want make 10m to feel adcuate and so on and so on...

people who have 10billion do not feel adequate actually studies show, which is ashtonishing. so it's __not__ the journey.

>>5072428

Not one bit, this is literally all I've ever wanted - never having to worry about money for the rest of my life.

So I can focus on learning useful skills I like, focus on projects I want to, be creative, read what I want, wake up when I want, do what I want and hang out with who I want at my pace.

This is fucking bliss and if you can't handle it - kill yourself.

>>5072866
dont listen to the fags who talk shit on ssri. literally cured me. didnt even know how bad depression really was until I started

people hate on it because it doesnt work for a lot of people, their depression lies in different areas of the brain

Look up Maslow's hierarchy of needs and discover why you are unhappy.

>>5072428
I had depression really bad in my late teens and early 20's. Hitting 30 next year. No longer depressed for most part, but investing a lot of money into ETH when it was cheap and seeing all the huge gains I've gotten hasn't made me nearly as happy as I thought it would. It's like I get a dopamine hit seeing a green candlestick, and I start feeling bad when I see a red one, even though I know in the back of my mind that I'm still way, way ahead. Maybe I won't feel different until I've "made it" and have plenty of fuck you money for the rest of my life.

But yeah, money can't buy happiness necessarily, but it can buy a lot of freedom and comfort which better enables you to be happy.

>>5073040
are you me?

>>5072428
>cryptocurrency is like a cheat code in a video game.

try holding chainlink if you want to play hard mode.

You guys are such pussies give me your money if you are so ashamed to have it. Money is freedom. You would know that if you ever worked shitty jobs with shitty managers and shitty owners. If you have money you can leave all those fuckers in the dust and never see them again while you forge your own path

>>5072577
can someone please help this person.

>>5073069
Out of curiosity how long have you been on them? I've been strongly considering going on ssri's lately because I've pretty much lost all positive emotions in my life and feel nothing most of the time. But I feel like I could still drag myself through the rest of my life this way without hurting the people close to me too much, and I'm scared of what antidepressants might do.

>>5073099
I honestly don't understand this. I have lived pretty modestly my entire life, supporting myself since I was around 17.
If I ever had 4 million or even 1 million I couldn't begin to describe the happiness I would feel from that.
People who have money and say "It doesn't mean that much." are fooling themselves. Money is the ultimate key to being happy.

I want to be successful an happy so bad. I have put everything I have ever scraped together into crypto.

>>5072428
Would you pay for some advise about finding your ouw inner satisfaction? Respectfully I'm lmao BC I'm happy but porfag. Not even a scammy ammount just some symbolic few bucks. Think about it. Btw if you don't want to pay tell me so I'm not a complete cunt and I would feel great helping you out reaching something I have

>>5072504
Schizophrenia is genetic.

>>5072504
Im socio already so i could care less

>>5072474
>now I only feel 2 things: Smugness, and anger
Made me kek. A lot.

>>5072428
it's temporary. At first you are hyped about the success, but then the hangover part kicks in, when you realize that your dream(-s) are achieved and now you are dead inside OR you realize that the money doesn't fix your mental issues. Nevertheless, the time should fix the depression, but I would suggest to not brag about your success with shitcoins to other people, otherwise any other success of yours will be overshadowed by "luck in crypto".

>>5073418
If you have a relative with schizophrenia you have a 2x the normal rate of getting it, but you can still develop it at the normal 1x rate by having no relatives or genetic markers for it. I imagine stress and drug abuse can increase chances also.

yes

achieving financial independence is good but it is not the most important thing by far. you have the time now so work on what is most important: health, family, friendships, your worklife, and so forth. making money can seem like the most important thing when you don't have it, but if you get it and these things are still fucked up you're going to be unhappy.

>cryptocurrency is like a cheat code in a video game. its fun, and you win easily
you had me at easily

anyways maybe dont make it about the money, the money is a means to an end or a way to accomplish a dream.

maybe you can use money to raise famiry, or travel, or start a real world business. or just a more comfortable life in general then enjoy

>>5073427
has anyone actually met someone with schizophrenia? I'm 22 and never met anyone with the disorder

>>5073418
>>5073505

My dad has schizophrenia, but I'm already 30 and showed no signs of it until now. I should be safe, r-right guys?

>>5073531
And bipolarity and a obsessive compulsive

>>5073361

this is what I don't get as well. I can understand being a millionaire and being sad because no girlfriend or whatever. But if I had millions of dollars I wouldn't work a job and I would actually go to the gym for a couple hours a day. I wouldn't feel like I was wasting my time working out like I do now.

Then I'd get ripped and babes would flock

>>5072428
All i know is that I used to be a good person, but the crypto market is turning me into something very similar to a degenerate pajeet scammer. I don't do scams, but all the shilling/FUDing is killing the best part of me. I got into this crypto thing to find freedom from material stuff... but now, that simple and selfless old me is long gone and what has been freed is nothing but a shadow of my former self... God... what has become of me? I have become a greedy pajeet... I lost my humanity... I lost it all, except my "gains" (and I will cling onto them for dear life, as they are the only thing keeping me sane in this shitty place called Earth). Fuck you /biz/... and FUCK YOU, Pajeet.

>>5072428
OP are you exercising enough? this is often a major cause of depression

>>5073606
my cousin is bipolar,and you cant really tell. lol
I think I am too the way i change my mood so quickly

>>5073617
>Then I'd get ripped and babes would flock
I am convinced that women will never bring you any happiness.
For a long time I kept thinking that if i got laid things would change. For some reason this really hot girl banged me.
I didnt feel anymore complete afterwards, and didnt feel fulfilled.
Money seems to be my only motivator right now

>>5073665
The worst it is that his dr kept him high af just for selling him the therapy

>>5072914
>>5073069
you both may have helped me a great deal. thank you. I will do more reading

>>5073712
dating and sex will not satisfy you. for most people (but not everybody), starting a family will

>>5072428
"The happiness is in the path, not in the end. Try to find something else to pursue." - Anon

>>5072428
If you didn't realize the game was pointless before getting rich, you would have eventually. Cryptos don't make you depressed, getting rich doesn't make you depressed, facing reality is what makes you depressed.

>>5072428
Yes. Turned 20k into 600k. More depressed than ever. Life seems pointless now because I don't have anything to work towards. I'll probably travel for a while and figure out what I want to do.

>>5073617
>Then I'd get ripped and babes would flock

kek...you have a long way to go

While money does not make happiness I'd sure rather cry while driving my lambo.
Don't be a fag. How about you share a bit of your sorrow with me? $$$

>>5073751
I was on tianeptine myself for a couple of years, it actually does work without turning you into a complete zombie. It could possibly make you slightly more impulsive though, that could be good or bad in your case.

I've been on about 7 or 8 other antidepressants too, SSRI, SNRI, MAOI, trust me, you don't want to take anything that increases serotonin. They emotionally stunt you, they are essentially like a painkiller for your emotions. More serotonin also means more estrogen, thats why a possible sideeffect from SSRI is lactation (in men). Long term they also damage the heart and increase cancer risk.

If you want to send me a little tip please do so
BTC: 1KgiSiKKMRCfbKaUyvHRakQ4XjLJhjeKUa
BCH: 1BEwmHr5dh5osnkj6Z31gECojmstK7Aujv

I have plenty of experience with this, we could talk more on email or skype or something else if you'd like to

>>5072866
>gosh the "made it" number seems to go up every month on /biz/
Number goes up as people make more money because most people always keep chasing.

>>5073932

Money isn't supppsed to be the end all you fucking moron. Money just gets you freedom from work. It gives you TIME. Time to learn, make friends, build relationships, get fit, work on projects, get involved in causes you care about, etc.

If you thought literally just buying shit would make you happy you've got it all wrong.

>>5074062
fucking THIS. You read my fucking mind.

>>5073946

I have saved your addresses for future reference.

>>5073946
You read Ray Peat? He talks about this shit.

For those considering ssri's, they can have permanent and serious side effects, including total loss of libido. Sexual problems are no joke - they can ruin your life.

>>5073007
I just hit the 100k mark. I feel arrogant as fuck when I walk around since I'm still just 21.

>>5074110
You might not be able to get tianeptine from your doctor depending on where you live, but it's very easy to get online these days.

>>5072428
If you are not giving back you deserve to fail. Be generous to worthy causes with your gains OP, it will heal you better than any meds and fulfill your purpose. You became successful for a reason.

>>5074062
This guy gets it. Work sucks ass and is basically slavery. Money gives the time to do whatever you want

>>5074147
Yeah. I don't agree with him on everything but he's right about serotonin. Actually the first time I came across his writings was when I was researching the negative effects of serotonin, he has some pretty good articles about that.

>>5074062
This 100%

>>5073626
stay on pajeet mode until you've cashed out enough

>>5074151
This is true. The opposite is also true, tianeptine could make you too sex-focused. If you're addicted to porn it could be a problem. On the other hand as it also makes you more social it could probably help you get more laid. For me it almost made me too horny at times, that was honestly the only negative effect it had on me, it made me way too horny for some time.

>>5073873
>Life seems pointless now because I don't have anything to work towards.
This. After a large settlement, I got years back, I stopped working towards anything because money can buy it all. It is a great feeling not having to worry about bills or work, but it definitely puts you in a different mindset from the rest of society.

You guys are hobbyless faggots, just travel and do the normie shit except ever going to work, eat nice food and do whatever fancy sports you like , where and when you like

>>5073099
I'm happy i don't have to wagecuck. That is true happiness.

>>5073594
It usually develops in early twenties, you should be gud

>>5073606
I'm bipolar lol
Which is good, because I might've been a bit manic when I bought 2k worth of btc over a year ago

>>507457
>>5073873

Ahh so you're no longer distracting yourself like the majority of people and finally see life has no true meaning. Just live it out til the end, constantly bettering yourself and finding fulfilling hobbies til you die.

>>5074062
You get it man.
It's that 40 hours a week that you can now spend on whatever you want.

>>5072428
>make a lot of money
>drop out college, money coming so easy from a business
>buy a house
>get depressed
>things change and business gets wiped out
>couple years living in poverty
>work my way back up, hop on the crypto train
>making more than ive ever made before each month
>no longer depressed
>better with finances now
>clearer picture of what i want out of life

I feel like just time, getting older, maybe losing all my money the first go put things into perspective for me.

>>5072561
Think about it - That money goes back into the system. OP should actually first withdraw all their money as paper currency, then burn it, then suicide. That way we all get to enjoy a little bit of deflation.

No, the only thing that happens to me is that I feel more and more sad and getting poorer every day. Is not helping someone good for you? In a way we are alike. The difference is that I would be happy with more money now. I could help my father with his illness and improve my health.
1ELbmD5SLhnQo8REz3mEKExvMe2g9wQ6zC

>>5072428
get a gf

>>5075433
hookers are better.

>>5075676
can confirm

source: am a hooker

ive been poor and ive been rich, and i can say that you are ALL dickheads here

I lose a lot of money. Crypto is very difficult for me.

>>5072866
he's right though, how do you expect to live a comfy first world lifestyle for the rest of your life and have the freedom to go into business ventures etc if you have less than $10M

i want to die and i can't "make it"

i don't understand how given unlimited fiscal potential anyone could ever not just learn how to do people.

Look up imposter syndrome.

>didn't acquire money making skills through years of mastering
>didnt get the "your making anon " from people around you
>didnt have to struggle

Probably why, i know kids who were born with a silver spoon who were always depressed.

Be happy anon, you made a good choice. Your gamble paid off.

You know what real sadness is?
>buy into btc at 100
>sell when it reaches 250
>forget it exists cuz poor

Normies mention it today and its at 17000. I want to die.

>mfw 2.3m blockfolio
>mfw eat pizza rolls and hotpockets every day while playing vidya
>mfw 98 inch 4k tv
>all consoles
>insane gaming computer
>live with parents

>>5076754
literally you're living the dream life.

how do you feel?

it just feels like i'm never going to make it.

>>5076798
idk not much has changed except i have a really nice car and tv. also not worrying about financial future is pretty nice. money doesn't feel real anymore and trading crypto is more like a game than working to earn money.

>>5077026
I agree with the sentiment that crypto feels just like a game I havn't beaten yet. But for my wagecucking self, beating the game right now has fairly intense implications. so many projects I need to work on, but the biggest problem is time spent working for someone else. If I could stare at charts even 8 hours daily, and be able to pay my rent right now? Shieeeet.

What do you want to do? What are you passionate about anon-sama?

>>5072474
JUST FUCKING PLAY RUNESCAPE INSTEAD

>>5072428
>compares life to a video game
>wonders why depressed

pottery

>>5077131
>What do you want to do? What are you passionate about anon-sama?
play video games all day and get in shape. maybe i'll buy a bunch of guns and have fun with those. i'm not really passionate about anything. maybe helping animals

Have you tried helping people with your money? You don't seem to be a psychopath so you should try doing that. When I got to 2 million USD I started helping my relatives and friends and the feeling is amazing. Sometimes it's sad when you realize some people only "like" you 'cause of your money though.

>>5072428
you are depressed because you do not work out.

human bodies were made to run most of the time, not to sit on chairs.

>>5073531
that means its you

currency is a concept, bitcoin finna kill that concept

>>5078261
what?

>>5073665
Unless you've been hospitalized for a manic episode you're not bipolar. By definition.

>>5072428
You haven't made enough yet, poorfag.

>>5072428
>It's not what you have, it's how you got it.

>>5072428
Man, fuck you
I live in a third world shithole
If crypto can make me rich and pull me out, then it's fine
Everyone has their definition of making it. I want money to live a comfy life and provide for a family. Fuck lambos, go out and meet people.
If you've made a shitton of money and dont know what to do, look around you.

>>5074171
IKR?

I still wagecuck because 100k won't do shit for me, but since Ive made my money I become irritated if someone tries to make small talk with me because it's wasting my time which I could be using to make money.

>>5072502
This.

Dont go shooting up a school, OP

>>5072474
honestly let's be real here a lot of us suffering from "depression" chances is because we are abusing dopamine. Hell I know I am, masturbating to porn every night, browsing 4chan, investing in stocks, vidya, youtube, movies, tv... Listen I'm not saying that it's bad, I love these platforms, but... you have to stay conscious when you use them. I have appreciated life and people less, feel more stressed, and depressed and stopped going to the gym.

If you are like me, let's take the first steps, just relax, breath, remember what it's like to be alive. Realize you make conscious decisions and have the choice to choose what to do with your time because it's fucking easy to get lost in browsing 4chan or some other shit for hours of your life each day. We got this boys.

>>5072704
>got over it instantly

Okay, stop taking them and see what happens

>>5072428
teach people how to fish so they can live fuckers, find happiness in helping others.