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Pic related is the performance stats for above

Do you mind getting paid in crypto?
If not numer.ai is the place to go

>>50707067
> I have a money making machine
> Help me sell it for money
The absolute state of a board full of autistic mongoloids

>>50707231
I have 3000 USD to my name. I am at the start of my career at a fortune 50 company. I dont have enough money to invest to make this thing worth it. How in the christ can I package this so it WONT scare off people that arent autistic like you, you fucking mongoloid

You're a mental retard. With a working model $3k would easily be enough. Since it isn't you're a larping faggot or as mentioned earlier, mentally retarded.

>>50707625
>easily enough
>enough
>larp

Yeah I see your point. Its probably the reason why banks, mutual funds and invesment banks dont use other peoples money when implementing their algos.

Sounds about right

>>50707625
Cope

>>50707067
make sure you keep us updated on your progress, excited to see you on forbes list next decade with those returns champ

>>50707370
>I have money to invest but I don't trust my model so I won't use my money
>let me get rich off other people's back

Use your own money first and start a firm idiot. What's more reliable then someone who has nothing and turns it into something?

>>50707067
Can someone explain why the fuck would you need to "sell your services" if you have algos that are actually profitable? Why not just run them and become rich instead of peddling them like a mid 2000s email marketing campaign? Reminds me of all the super duper wallstreet investors that beat the S&P for years and years and still have to say shit like
>sign up for my insider newsletter today to see what stocks will explode in the next few months ($5000 value)
>you also get insider access to my newsletter detailing which industries are marked for a drawn down($2000 value)
>but Im doing a special today and the first 100 people to sign up will get all this for just $599!

Like nigga if your shit really works why arent you rich as fuck. From using it and why do you need to act like a used car salesman

>>50707100
Anyone can data fish from old price feeds. Means nothing.

>>50708111
>wont use my money
>has live model

Do go on

>>50708192
How much money you make is determinant upon how much you start with. I dont have much and only recently landed on algos that work.

I need more starting capital.

Having spent literal months building these things, they are not "money making machines"

They're more like suits. You need one for every occasion. In this case, they don't always work in recessions.

I'm mostly in cash and bonds right now because the economic conditions indicate a downturn in equity.

>>50708192
came here to post this. you don't have to sell anything anon, just get your money stack in there and growing over time.

what are some of the tools in mathematics you use to do this? things in the same category as the traditional ones like RSI, MACD, bollinger bands etc.

>>50708309
Compound interest is the most powerful force in the universe

>>50708309
Ok but dont you have 5k to your name? If you have a profitable algo those 5k would grow to 20k really easily and those 20k would grow to 100k really easily too within a year then you could deploy those 100k for another year or two and grow exponentially. Im not trying to be an ass I have no idea about algos and automated trading but something doesn't add up

>>50708337
>>50708337
You're not kidding. I have to say its hard to understand bc im young and inexperienced

Case of needing to see to believe.

This is my top performing model. More unstable than original one and needs some ironing out.

This one isnt live btw but its pretty much the same.

>>50708309
Everyone is wary of you because it sounds like a scam - Meaning it probably is. If you were serious, and your algos work, then you would be using your algos to build a foundation of assets. at 3000%, you would see 250,000 in no time. You are a larper, you won't provide actual proof your software works, those stupid screenshots are worthless, and when you feel like providing real evidence to it working, feel free to become a millionaire at any point in your life.

Your larp means absolutely nothing except to sucker the most brain dead retards possible, not to mention there are a number of exact same threads in the archives like this, spanning back in years worth of retards like you posting "algos" like this.

If they actually worked, you would showcase realtime examples of the process (censored to keep proprietary), and you would lead by example. I have only seen ONE (1), UNO, algorithm actually work and it was a btc/eth scraper which pulled in a 3x at peak. That anon showcased very honestly and openly how the algorithm worked, what you needed to do, and how to get it running yourself via his github.

You are a stupid larper until proven otherwise. Nigger equivalent, in all honesty.

>>50708309
>They're more like suits. You need one for every occasion. In this case, they don't always work in recessions.
so you still need to be able to spot the macro trends, it requires discretionary judgment. Best use of your time is a model that works now, models that worked in the past 1) might be overfitted 2) take advantage of easy money.

By the looks of it that first one has a lot of positive delta. Long strategies are easy until they stop working, and they are easy to create.
Make something that makes you money now, no one wants first pic related when that can just be done with spx calls. Right now market neutral strategies are very valuable.
i’m pretty sure you’re just a scammer fishing for uneducated money. But if you have an actual interest in this, you might as well make yourself a cookbook of as many correlations, strategies etc as you can, ones that perform now. If they perform now, bring your performance and trading history to point72, they’ll hook you up with capital if you are actually good.

>>50708419

Building something that will 5x your money every year consistently is incredibly difficult. Not impossible but difficult. You'd likely need a team of PhD's to do that.

It depends on the strategy and the research too. This strategy trades high quality microcaps with some momentum indicators. I have others in the works. Main idea is to isolate highly volatile securities that have a >50% chance of blowing up in the next 365 or so days.

Mean hold time is 339.5 days.

>>50708424
If you're serious, I have contacts at hedge funds which would be interested if the model can scale and also if it turns the positions over much quicker than 75% per year as yours shows. If you can turnover 75% in a day and still show that kind of performance, I'd pass you along to my guy. I can't stress enough how important it is that any model can start with at least 1 million, and preferably $20mm+. Oh also you'd have to fill out some paperwork to submit. No worries if you're a total autist either

>>50708580
phone post samefag. Bloviating about hedgefunds is irrelevant when he can't even show a live trial in action. These threads have been made throughout the years as a way to scam retards into giving contacts and/or to install viruses. Again, you're a samefag double nigger so you're irrelevant anyway.

Provide proof or shut the fuck up.

>>50707370
just put the 3k thru ur algo and 100x it bro then u wont need an investor

Also listen to this anon >>50708517. He's right, and point 72 isn't the only shop which would give you money. If you're not providing any risk capital, your share of the profit won't be that high. Some shops will simply buy the algo from you too and run it themselves.

>>50708624
op samefag until proof provided.

>>50708517
>still need to be able to spot the macro trends, it requires discretionary judgment.

Yes. You seem to understand how these things work. Take a momentum strat I tested recently. First pic didn't outperform the market.

>Right now market neutral strategies are very valuable.

Working on one now.

>you might as well make yourself a cookbook of as many correlations, strategies etc as you can, ones that perform now.

Yes to this. Thank you. for the idea. Never heard of point72

>i’m pretty sure you’re just a scammer fishing for uneducated money.
not asking anyone to think anything about this. just looking for advice.

>>50708517
>>50708691
But the same momentum strategy pumped like a psycho drug addict post covid because the federal reserve decided to print billions of dollars every day.

Like you said, you need to have a cookbook of algos ready to go for the occasion

>>50708691
If you ask for any contacts, or any personal information, or any kind of way to get in contact with people through these types of threads, you are a scammer meant to solely create a "sophisticated" scam and prey upon the uneducated anons here. Keep your charts all you want in your thread, but any lurkers here who are reading this, immediately recognize that as soon as he ask for any personal details or any way to contact you if you show interest, he is a scammer through and through. If he keeps his mouth shut, like a good little bitch, about any way to contact or get in touch with you, he may be one of the rare autists who is just genuinely working on his project. Every time he makes a thread on /biz/ now, I will remind you that by him asking for any personal information at all now, he is obviously scamming and you are to be wary of the niggers posting here.

Remember lurker, most algorithms fail and the ones that can succeed are easily accepted within any top F100. If he asks for contacts at any point in this thread or in future threads, he is a little bitch trying to scam you. I will ruin any further potential for him to scam by turning on my botpost temporarily. If he shows predatory signs in future threads, he will be permanently blacklisted from making threads without botposting turned on. Good night, anons.

>>50708769
Good night <3

>>50708769
lurkers be advised
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>>50707067
>After hundreds of hours of grinding I have a few good value, growth and momentum models
>After hundreds of hours of backfitting I finally have models that represent the past

>>50707100
That's a shit sharpe ratio.
Kill yourself

>>50709341
How have you avoided backfitting?

>>50707067
>3000% return

Lol what. That just can't be. The best algo strategies I've seen can do no more than 50%, vast majority don't work at all

>>50708560
>This strategy trades high quality microcaps with some momentum indicators. I have others in the works. Main idea is to isolate highly volatile securities that have a >50% chance of blowing up in the next 365 or so days.
Classic case of a 'strategy' that only works in bubbles. Past data is irrelevant. Develop a strategy that works on new data and test it for years.

>>50708769 #
lurkers be advised
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>>50708195
>>50709529

Anything to add to the constructive to add?

>>50709899
Yes

>>50709899
>14 posts by ID
>3,000 US Dollars to her name
Cope.

Why would i take that long to get money and sell shit when i just did x2 on zhao lmao, imagine

>>50709984
i mean if swinging is your move you do you man

>>50708769 # #
lurkers be advised
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>>50707067
Why don't you use your model to make money yourself?

>>50707067
>for the last 4 fucking months. After hundreds of hours of grinding I have a few good value, growth and momentum models.
I sincerely hope you were testing them against 1999-2002 and not the past few years

>>50707100

39% drawdown , holy shit
6% less than SPY, wtf

why would anyone buy this shit

>>50708192

simple: THEY DONT FUCKING WORK