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>>5064201

only ideology that is consistent

>We should make sure we can't have a government we can maybe influence by voting rule us. Instead we should have private property owners who only care about money rule us. But its okay because I will DEFINITELY be a property owner and have a private army. The end.

>>5064201

>>5064243
Voting does nothing, democracy is a scam.

>>5064304
Its the worst system...besides literally everything else.

>>5064243
>missing the point of government-less institutions such as hospitals, police forces and firefighters, funded by insurance.

Basically if you want medical care, safety or someone to put the fire out of your house, you pay nigger

>inb4 we still need the army to defend us from le evil commies

There won't be need for armies when there are no dumb ideologies left, oviously we must nuke shitskins before taking the jump to the bracve new world

Ancaps are a pure abomination and should be shot on sight. Worse than feminists, radical centrists, and even communists.

>>5064201
It cant work and its somewhat jewish.

>>5064378
The absolute state of biz LMAO

>>5064378
What I hate most about crypto is all of you fucking autist ancappers.

It's literally as if a bunch of angry kids thought of their own ideology

>>5064379
Why are people always so salty about ancaps?

>>5064201
ancaps couldn't stand the r/the_donald nature of nu-/pol/ any longer and moved to /biz/ earlier this year. /biz/ is /ancap/ now

>>5064453
Because they are addicted to the asphalt jew.

>>5064314
Dictatorships are better, at least then everyone knows that if you want change the only way is to kill the person in charge. In democracies people are fooled into thinking they actually have a say and kept complacent.

>>5064201
the worst parts of anarchism and capitalism, together at last

>>5064406
>>5064451
Stay mad poorfags
How does it feel being on the bottom of the 21st century darwin's selection?

Brainlet ideology for people who think their high school econ class taught them everything they need to know.

These are the retards that try to explain markets with basic arithmetic and are constantly befuddled by irrational markets.

>>5064379
if you think it's an abomination I ask you to visit Venezuela, they would be far better without the government ruling their lives

Worst kind of anarchism. Social libertarianism (specifically Communalism) or GTFO muh face.

>>5064517
>>5064495
>>5064492
t. unironic fascists

>>5064558
> he thinks liberty can work with multiculturalism.

Anyone who needs an ideology is an upper-higher class retard in search of an identity.

A privileged sack of mollycoddled shit.

>>5064572
>he thinks multiculturalism can exist without a welfare state
>he doesn't realize the biggest (((hoodwink))) of them all is a (((social safety net)))
You were doomed from the beginning, goy.

>>5064577
retard is paying 50% on taxes and being ok with it

>>5064617
>social safety nets are inherently jewish
NSDAP had social safety nets

I hate those faggots. Fascism is the only ideology that works

>>5064558
obviously if too much government is bad, the right amount of government is absolutely none at all

Authoritarian Government with Free Deregulated Market and low taxes is literally the best thing ever

prove me wrong

>>5064652
NSDAP is a stupid ideology for idiot goyim; the only difference is which master you slave for. Your stupid fascist circlejerk has no power here, nu-/pol/

>>5064453

All i know is that thousands of brainlets are helping us ancaps defund governments with cryptos. Let them criticize, when they're begging to enter our private cities we'll ask them to cite democracy the god that failed before we allow them in.

The only consistent ideology.

>>5064674
Exactly.

>>5064678
>authoritarian government
>free unregulated market
Pick one.

>>5064527
They're about to create their own crypto.
Where are the ancaps? In texas with no tech.

>>5064652
How’d that work out?

>>5064453
Because it's fucking retarded and its supporters all have the worst case of superiority complex, and won't stop shilling it anywhere.

Seriously, try living in a welfare state, those guys are so fucking whiny all the time, making it seem like we're living in fucking North Korea

>>5064713
NSDAP was a political party, not an ideology you utter mong.
>pic
>you must be a poorfag
I probably have more money than you.

>>5064740
You don't need to pick one you get that right, literally socially authoritarian government that protects it's market by making taxes as low as possible and by slashing spending by privatizing education, healthcare and social security and thus attracting big corporations

>>5064764
>try living in a welfare state
>hordes of niggers and maghrebis invading daily
>fucking AnCaps are so whiny

>>5064748
Pretty well, turned the economy completely around in five years, then the UK got all asshurt.

>>5064617
> He thinks we can eliminate the welfare state without fascism.

>>5064783
>NSDAP was a political party, not an ideology
Seriously? So now the quintessential example of fascism wasn't real fascism? This sounds oddly familiar.

>>5064804
>we need a government to make sure the government doesn't get too big
Capcha: road any time

>>5064667
>only examples lasted a decade

>>5064201
when advances in biotech and 3d printing render the cost of every good virtually zero, anarcho-syndicalism will be the way to go for everybody's mutual best interest.

Anarcho-capitalism is definitely 90% of the way there towards liberating everybody.

But it's a less pleasant hypothetical world than taking the an-cap ideology one step further towards the liberation of humanity.

For example, in an-cap paradise if I want to drive on a road, they're all private, so I'll be paying toll after toll to get from place to place. Kind of annoying.

In an anarcho-syndicalist society, even all property will be owned by all. When there's a scarcity of resources, this system is tough but workable (see the early kibbutzim, or the communal efforts in Spain during the Spanish Civil War). When there's an abundance of resources provided by technology, this system is win-win for everybody.

Everyone is totally free to do whatever they want, there is no hierarchy, people can work in whatever capacity they feel and aren't stuck in particular careers and work as much or as little as they want, and everything is free.

Things are decided by the workers themselves, ending the need for bosses or any kind of hierarchy.

This will lead to a new era of creativity and abundance for everyone.

Everyone will have the resources and times at their disposal to bring whatever crazy ideas they have to fruition.

Read Bakunin and Kropotkin to get a better idea of this. Collaboration and cooperation is the hallmark of an advanced society, both in nature and in human history, not infighting and competition.

>>5064812
Yes, the fucking AnCaps are whiny and simple-minded.

>>5064848
Step 1: Fuck it; I ain't paying no taxes and I'm laundering all my income through Monero
Step 2: Gov't has no monies for gibmedats
Done.

We prove ancaps were right everyday on /biz/
>No one gives a fuck about our economic ideology so we had to invent our own coin

>>5064860
lol

>>5064900
>he thinks anyone cares about the ideological aspect of bitcoin
enjoy your slow bleed

>>5064895
I wish that would work. I used to be an ancap before I realized how bad things really are.

>>5064860
Anarcho-syndicalism is just AnCap with the majority of corporate ownership being held by the employees and customers of the corporation in question.

>>5064851
>So now the quintessential example of fascism wasn't real fascism?
Correct, national socialism is distinct from fascism. Though fascism isn't inherently bad, there's still differences between it and national socialism.
>sounds familiar
Not really commies go, "I-Its not real communism" because they dislike whatever communist country it was. I quite like NSDAP's policies and if you'd said national socialism instead of fascism or not called NSDAP an ideology then I wouldn't have objected.

>>5064860
>Feels and moralism are a valid economic theory

>>5064860
>competition and heirarchies are bad
You're spooked son

>>5064943
>how bad things really are
And how did they get that way? the big fucking G's of God, Government and Goyim. Stop falling for the same fucking trick every goddamn time.

>>5064912
You might not care about our ideology but you're leading the word towards it.

>>5064895
How many XMR do I need to get a crypto-anarchist gf?

>>5064860
solid insight

>>5064954
>national socialism
Is fucking socialist; I don't care what Hitler quote you dig up.
>NSDAP political party stances
>welfare
>guaranteed employment
>healthcare and workers comp provided by gov't
>complete gov't authority over production
>price controls by gov't
>unions and mandatory union membership
You are fucking lefty communists; there is no difference between you and (((them))) except for whether the gibs go to niggers or rednecks.

>>5064999
>implying competition won't be at all time high without gov interaction
>implying hierarchy (yeah that's how you spell it you dumb nigger) is real in a homogeneous white society

t.cuck

>>5064851
>That pic
Fucking hell, that looks comfy.

>>5065034
As many as you can get your hands on; that way you might get a crypto-anarchist harem!

>>5064314
Nice meme you have there

>>5065103
You haven't played rapture.

>>5064201
Like social darwinism, communism or fascism, it's a shitty ideology that completely ignores 5+K years of history to create an inhuman society.

If it became the foundation of society, it would lead to civil war and the country would resemble Somalia pretty soon.

TL;DR: Mongos

>>5065103
>competition will be at an all time high
Did you even read his post?
>Everyone is totally free to do whatever they want, there is no hierarchy
>Collaboration and cooperation is the hallmark of an advanced society, both in nature and in human history, not infighting and competition.

>>5064946
Yeah pretty much, I think that'd be much preferable to AnCap where the current power structure is essentially retained, i.e. CEOs run the planet.

If the employees and customers of Amazon decided how Amazon runs, it's inevitable Amazon would start to kick immense ass and deliver greater value to everyone involved, with all capital that would otherwise be wasted on paying C-level
and managerial dickheads so they can keep buying their $20k/night hookers now going back to customers and employees.

Technology would easily make this kind of scenario feasible.

>>5065090
damn, youre an idiot. the nazis enacted massive privatization schemes after acquiring power. anyone who makes the claim clearly doesn't have an understanding of national socialism, fascism, and socialism and just hurdhurddhh lefty communists hurrr whenever they hear "the left" or "socialism"

>>5064860
>For example, in an-cap paradise if I want to drive on a road, they're all private, so I'll be paying toll after toll to get from place to place. Kind of annoying.
crypto can make that automatized

>>5064314
Republics are the masterrace.
Fuck demoncracy and fuck authoritarianism

ancap memes are usually a solid rebuttal to the ideology

sidenote, I know there are plenty of pervert ancaps here that would get a kick out of this game: http://freecitiesblog.blogspot.com/

>>5065296
>he thinks a republic is possible without first removing the marxist threat via fascism

>>5065008
Dude its the jew that got us here, and the institution of govt isnt the problem, multiculturalism is. I tip my fedora to you.

>>5065311
>http://freecitiesblog.blogspot.com/
pregmod makes it better

>>5065211
>technology would easily make this kind of scenario feasible
Yeah; it's called the blockchain. There's no reason why only currency can be kept on blockchain registers; you could easily maintain property right using the same system, which opens up using the blockchain for title keeping and corporate structure. Delaware already allows companies to incorporate on a blockchain and use "coins" as shares.

The only thing standing in the way of humans taking back sovereignty and capital from mega-corporations is our willingness to do it, but since 90% of people, like this cuck >>5065163, are sheeple and need to be herded like filthy goyim, I don't think AnCap will actually happen until after the medical singularity of artificial gene manipulation.

tl;dr - the vast majority of humans are just too stupid for AnCap

pick related soon hopefully

>>5065171
I think collaboration would be the result of an utopic comunism, not anarcho-capitalism. The later depends on competition to find the market floors, otherwise monopolies would do what they are doing now.

This whole discussion just enlights the fact that it's not about ideology, just abundance of resources and technology.

Wr still need to abolish religion though. Embrace physics as your lord and destroyer

>>5065234
With 17 million Germans receiving assistance under the auspices of National Socialist People’s Welfare (NSV) by 1939, the agency “projected a powerful image of caring and support.”[36] The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under Nazi’s concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[36]

The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941.[37] One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”[38] However, the physically disabled and homeless were persecuted in Nazi Germany.[39][40] The Office of Youth Relief, which had 30,000 branches offices by 1941, took the job of supervising “social workers, corrective training, mediation assistance,” and dealing with judicial authorities to prevent juvenile delinquency.[41] It is estimated that in the mid-1930s, German workers paid 15-35% of their income to taxes, social programs, and (due to government pressure) charities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

You're a lefty. When people say "the weak should fear the strong", they are directly criticizing your philosophy. You are untermensch.

>>5065375
You mean the little shitstain the keeps getting cucked because might makes right in the real world?

>>5065423
I hope one day to kill you

>>5065444
> oh no the NSDAP took care of the eldery and disabled.
(((you))) wouldnt want whites helping each other would (((you))). And german workers still paid less tax then than americans do now. Also there was no unemployment for able bodied. If you didnt work you didnt get gibs. Im not even a natsoc just need to btfo your fake arguments.

>>5065349
>the jew got us here
How did they do that? Oh yeah, they infiltrate and nepotism their kind into positions of power in government, media, etc.
>gov't and media aren't the problem, it's the niggers!
This is why you are and always will be a goy. You don't want to take power from the jews, you want to redirect (((their))) gifts from the niggers to you. You're literally just another nigger asking for gibmedats, except you have skin the color of semen instead of shit.

>>5065444
>he doesnt know the German welfare program was completely done by Donations, not taxations

>>5065503
I hope one day you do anon, life is suffering

>>5064201
Stupid as fuck. Without a governing entity to enforce regulations people are going to hire for slave wages.
>MUH GO TO A COMPANY THAT PAYS BETTER
Doesn't work like that in real life

>>5065523
> assuming im natsoc.
Uhh no sweetie. I want the jew removed from power and multiculturalism destroyed. I dont want a welfare state or nanny state. You on the other hand dgaf about anything but your shekels, like the rest of the ancaps. Its hilarious you call yourself libertarian right when you dgaf about tradition or heritage.

>>5064764
I have no superiority complex, and understand if my ideal system was implemented I'd probably be dead in a couple years.

But I still stand by it.

>>5065444
He never said that they lacked social safety nets, he said they privatized industry. Which they undeniably did. http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf

>>5064201

Used to be one, then I found out about kikes.

>>5065566
Im not ancap but that literally has nothing to do with ancap... minimum wage needs to go

>>5065520
>take care of the elderly and disabled
>whites helping whites
Nice strawman. Nobody said you shouldn't take care of your own grandparents. Why the fuck should other people have to pay for your oldfucks though? Oh, because you can't afford it because you're a degenerate NEET who's only redeeming quality is his "aryan" features. No, in that case nobody should be required to pay for your parents healthcare, because they brought such a stinking little shit into this world and now they need to eat the fruits of their labor, i.e. nothing at all.

>no unemployment for able bodied
>guaranteed employment for able bodied
>gibs for able bodied employed people
That's the fucking point; you're forcing valuable citizens to employ people with no valuable skills to create the illusion of unified prosperity. It's a sham and people who are unemployable should be left to be unemployed and starve because they are not valuable to society, regardless of their skin color.

>>5065636
Onc again genius, the Germans welfare was done by Donations. you were forced via taxation

Limited Liability Corporations are a product of government law, they won't exist in an ancap society.

>>5065709
*you were NOT forced by taxation

>>5064895
>I finally removed that stain, so to speak

Can someone explain this one to me?

>>5065597
>there's something more important than shekels
What? What is so special that it doesn't have a monetary/utility value ascribed to it but is nevertheless worth our consideration? Nothing, by definition.

>>5065625
>nazis "privatized" industry
/pol/ please go; your stupid undergrad paper on privatization of industry in nazi germany is irrelevant. Any actual economist will quickly tell you nazi germany is not at all a free market.

>>5064642
>being ok with taxes is a matter of some 'ideology'
>Typical simplistic explanation given by some person who has to hide behind ideologies because they are afraid to stand behind their arguments on their own.

Ancaps reek of someone who is interested in being a lawyer, but is to stupid to go through the whole shebang of training oneself to be one.

>>5065709
1933 Hitler decreed the banning of all private charity organizations in Germany, ordering NSV chairman Erich Hilgenfeldt to “see to the disbanding of all private welfare institutions,” which provided the National Socialists the means to engage in the social engineering of society through the selection of who could receive government benefits.[2] Hitler had essentially nationalized local municipalities, German federal states and private delivery structures that had provided welfare services to the public. NSV was the second largest Nazi group organization by 1939, second only to the German Labor Front

>"donations"
>you can't "donate" to any cause, it has to be to the party
>it's a "donation" but if you don't do it the fuhrer will shake his finger very hard in your direction
Fucking stupid LARPing nazi shits.

>>5065753
I see that you've been reduced to memes and calling professors in Barcelona /pol/.

>>5065749
Hoppe uses "so to speak" as a catchphrase and advocates the physical removal of communists, niggers, etc.

Ancaps are the most deluded LARPers to ever exist.

>>5065807
>“see to the disbanding of all private welfare institutions,” which provided the National Socialists the means to engage in the social engineering of society through the selection of who could receive government benefits
Nothing wrong with this.

>>5065636
I already said Im not natsoc. Do you see why people call ancaps autists, you're retarded radical individualists. I have studied ancap quite a bit I understand how it works. We have much bigger issues than who will pay for the eldery but you autistic ancaps make that a focal point. How about stopping the third worldization of the west first? But thats collectivism!!
>>5065597
>people who are unemployable should be left to be unemployed and starve because they are not valuable to society, regardless of their skin color.
See why I say ancaps are all about their shekels and nothing more? No sense of community or kinship, just fuck everyone ima get mine.

>>5065753
>What? What is so special that it doesn't have a monetary/utility value ascribed to it but is nevertheless worth our consideration? Nothing, by definition.
This is why people call ancap a kike ideology. You would hire a somalian vs someone from your own people to save a shekel an hour.

>>5065823
Please tell me how the following is a free market economy:
>In other cases, where the Nazi administration wanted additional industrial capacity, they would first nationalize and then establish a new state-owned-and-operated company. In 1937 Hermann Göring targeted companies producing iron ore, “taking control of all privately owned steelworks and setting up a new company, known as the Hermann Göring Works.”[47] Those industries that somehow remained in private hands often received favoritism, subsidies and various state assistance. Nonetheless, Hitler was “an enemy of free market economics”[48] whose regime was committed to an economic “New Order” controlled by the “Party through a bureaucratic apparatus staffed by technical experts and dominated by political interests,” similar to the economic planning of the Soviet Union.[49] Many business leaders had welcomed Hitler's rise to power due to his anti-Communist and anti-trade union stance.[51] Many of these businessmen and their businesses continued to support Hitler even during the war and even profited from persecution of the Jews. The most infamous being firms like Krupp, IG Farben, and some large automobile manufacturers.[52] In other cases, National Socialist officials were levying harsh fines of millions of marks for a “single bookkeeping error.”[53] The Nazis granted big business millions of marks in credits to private businesses.[54] Many businessmen had friendly relations to the Nazis,[52] most notably with Heinrich Himmler and his Freundeskreis der Wirtschaft[55] Hitler’s administration decreed an October 1937 policy that “dissolved all corporations with a capital under $40,000 and forbade the establishment of new ones with a capital less than $200,000,” which swiftly affected the collapse of one fifth of all small corporations

>>5065807
You didnt actually say anything there guy. OBVIOUSLY since the party owned the state they had to be in control of the money, and could better receive donations opposed to a private entity

>>5065842
Ahh, ok. I had a feeling it was racist because of the stain removal, but have never read into or heard of Hoppe, thanks.

>I need to quote people I feel are powerful manly leaders to feel protected from the outside world by my 'tribe'.

>I can't argue on my own without the warm embrace of some person who wrote a book.

>>5065892
>what is a mixed economy
>what is corporatism

Ancaps this is just embarrassing

>>5065850
>nothing wrong with this
That is not a free market.

>>5065857
>fuck everyone I'ma get mine
That's the Nash equilibrium attitude, bro. Mathematically you can prove that all your bullshit about "community" and "kinship" is nothing more than just that, because as soon as one person thinks "fuck it, they're not really my kin" EVERYBODY is better off under "fuck everyone i'ma get mine".

>hurr ancaps are autistic; I'm not natsoc
You don't get to tell me what you believe in, I hear what you say and put you in the categorical camp I think you best fit in. If you want to say you're not a natsoc, say what you are and defend it.

>>5065892
Please tell me where I called it a free market economy. You're the one fixated on a free market, the thing myself and the other anon have said is that they privatized much of the industry.

>>5065891
Yeah I would; who gives a shit what "my own people" are. Do you honestly think you have never been screwed over by your own race? Must be a pajeet or Finn, then.

>>5065968
>he thinks the Germans werent a happy community

>>5064378
>ancap frogs

>>5065311

Not all all. In fact we have embraced the funny meme smug ancap balls.

>>5065918
>party owned the state they have to be in control of money
This is exactly what the fuck bitcoiners and AnCaps do not want.

>>5065961
>mixed economy corporatism
Is a bad thing.

>>5065971
>it's not a free market
Which is why it's bad.

>inb4 "hurr why are free markets so great"
I ain't teaching you fucks how economics works; if you don't believe in free markets and free trade you deserve to lose every last shekel you have and don't belong on /biz/ to begin with.

>>5065968
Don't care about muh laissez faire. Muh free market selects for better workers but not better people. A 5ft 6 150 I bald incel millionaire is inferior to a 6ft 3 IQ 140 Chad and government policy should reflect that

>>5065968
>That's the Nash equilibrium attitude, bro. Mathematically you can prove that all your bullshit about "community" and "kinship" is nothing more than just that, because as soon as one person thinks "fuck it, they're not really my kin" EVERYBODY is better off under "fuck everyone i'ma get mine"

Again, this is why your ideology is retarded and jewish. You dont give a single fuck about your people, just shekels. But the irony of it all is that you will never get anywhere near your vision in a nonwhite society. Libertarians are almost exclusively white. There are no more arguments to be made with you.

>>5066055
150IQ

>>5064517
>high school econ
>implying high school teaches econ

>>5064652

>>5065990
Where do you live? I'd bet my whole stack you have never lived anywhere as a minority among non-whites. Are you even white?

>>5066048
>is a bad thing
shit opinion

>>5066048
Nigger, if you were trying to raise money by donations and you had full control of the media and state you would do that instead of Taxing, people would prefer that

>not what ancaps or bitcoiners want
people by bitcoins because they are greedy, not because they believe in a non-government world

>>5066055
>look at my cherrypicked fictional example: the post
In reality, the Chad is always the millionaire and the statist is always the virgin because to be a Chad is to be desirable, and to be desirable is to have command over resources and people, i.e. being filthy fucking rich. You think people suck Harvey Weinstein's dick because it's big? And now we're really getting into the "muh dick" nature of statist niggers; you ascribe inferiority based on whatever (((reasons))) you have when the market clearly says the incel millionaire is more valuable. Who's the unrealistic one now?

>>5064860
>once we reach post scarcity

D R O P P E D

>>5066065
>you don't give a fuck about your people, just shekels
Then why don't "your people" give back your wallets when you lose them?>>5065990
Don't they care about "their people"?

>>5066048
>its bad because its not a free market and it not being a free market makes it bad
Fantastic argument you have there
>deserve to lose every last shekel
I'm up more than 4000% this year, not counting the $40k I cashed out, not too worried about that.

>>5066190

Pretty dope

>>5065990
>>5066190
>majority of people returned the wallet
So you aspire to be worse than the average person?

Ive never once seen an Ancap win a debate or even hold their own, they just resort to trolling and memes to make it seem like they werent serious

>>5066162
> posts a pic of a literal white nationalist and white supremacist
>>5066190
So because all societies have thieves, it doesnt matter which one I live in? Again, do you see how jewish you sound? Are you black or jewish?

>>5066117
I was born in and live in Texas, so yes, I have lived as a minority among non-whites.
>are you even white
At least we're finally getting to the important questions. I've lived as a minority among whites too; pic related.

>>5066136
>people buy bitcoins because they are greedy
Yes; because people are greedy. That's why collectivist identitarian politics, i.e. government, never works.

>>5065234
>it isn't socialism unless the government has control over everything

This is what I hate about socialists. Every example of socialism is the government controlling everything and not the workers, but they're too fucking dense to see the issue.

I took more than 1 econ class. So I'll stick with neoliberalism and a government to protect my property rights.
>>5064378
The scams alone would destroy a stateless insurance alone in like a month. Also stste tun insurance companies can be more efficient cause they are actuarially fair.

>>5065211
>If the employees and customers of Amazon decided how Amazon runs

Why the fuck would this happen? Also gibs me dat, my fucking god.

There's a serious lack of ancap balls in this thread

>>5066162
Biological worth is what determines the future. The average Westerner is highly overweight, medicated, depressed, but they're better workers. You're deluded if you think the future will be better amid declining Western birth rates. Those celebrities sucked Weinstein's dick in spite of his biological inferiority and we're quick to rat him out when they could. You think they'd do the same to Brad Pitt?

Ancaps are miserable LARPers and their ideology will never succeed because 99.99% of the population understands the intrinsic value of helping out their fellow man whilst ancaps probably grew up in broken homes.

>create city in ancap nation
>group of citizens decide the city next door is bringing in too much crime
>hire a private police force
>hire private firemen
>hire private hospitals
>eventually decide that it is not feasible to have a multitude of people in charge of these resources, as everyone is working on top of managing police etc
>Decide to make someone in charge of all these resources for a sum of money annually
>Can't decide who ought to have this cushy job, hold an election
>city gets large enough to be the biggest customer of a private police force
>Private police force decides to cut out smaller fish, and only works for a county - er, i mean, grouping - of cities
>changes name to "Nashville Police Force", as thats the area they serve
>this keeps happening

>>5066425
were quick*

>>5066325
Ahahhaha so you arent white, I knew it. Thats why you dont want any white unity. Good luck with your multicultural libertarianism bro, non white societies have a great track record with liberty.

>>5066325
>collectivist identitarian politics
nice buzzwords. I bet you think communism and fascism are the same right?

>never work
Literally every fascist nation was successful and prosperous until the allies fucked everyone over

>>5066325
>he was a pajeet this whole time

Flag board when

>>5066276
>33% of society doesn't give a shit about your "kinship"
So do you need to gas these degenerate whites now?

>>5066299
>literal white supremacist
>deliberately writes clauses in Declaration of Independence meant to incite racial equality
He spent hours writing "all men are created equal"; do you really think he "accidentally" didn't say "all white men" while he was sleeping with his nigger?

>thieves
No; I'm just saying if you want to pretend that all white people find "kinship" with you because you have the same skin color it isn't going to end pretty for you.

>are you black or jewish
>do you see how jewish you sound
Grasping for the (((magic))) at this point, aren't you?

>>5066087
maybe you went to a high school that was underfunded and didn't teach you about economics.

>>5064946
>>5064860
anarcho syndicism v.s. capitilism are redundant since anarchism is just a state of nature the end result is always the same. Read Hobbes or Locke for a badiv understanding.

>>5066467
Its funny how you can always spot a nonwhite ancap but the way they go against any idea of community.

>>5066470
>He spent hours writing "all men are created equal"
He didnt consider nonwhites to be men, thats why he used them as slaves. Are you now trying to say USA was founded as a multicultural country? There are no more arguments to be made with you.

>>5066450
>aha I knew you weren't white
>good thing you admitted it because otherwise I couldn't win this argument
Congrats on this, seriously.

>>5066425
>biological worth determines the future
Ok, so then why use race as the proxy instead of the actual biological unit of family?

>>5066460
>i bet you think communism and fascism are the same
I don't make it a point to learn about retarded and failed ideologies.

>every fascist nation was successful and prosperous until the allies fucked everyone over
So what you're saying is that when push came to shove they lost? Well, might makes right, which means fascism is wrong.

>>5066467
I'm in the fucking United States and was born a citizen to naturalized parents like I already said you fucking moron.

>>5066470
If you are an Ancap by the way... tell me what happens when people go to prison. what do the races do?

>>5066596
>Congrats on this, seriously.
I was going to offer you a shekel to prove what race you are so I would have won either way. So race and tribe is irrelevant, but it just so happens that your parents left their people to come live among mine, for no reason whatsoever huh?

>>5066596
see you cant hold a debate. You just resorted to memes again

obviously you know why the axis lost. because americans and british decided to team up with the communist and send all men into the meat grinder

>>5066087
Haha you went to public school, didn't you?

>>5066572
>multicultural country
Hurr durr I dunno maybe when they wrote "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" they still meant that only WASPs were allowed.

>the USA was founded
As the first AnCap country until you stupid gibmedat low IQ kraut admixture fucks decided to fuck it all up so some niggers could be free (Lincoln) and that they needed jobs (FDR). If you want to talk about superiority of races and who's "white"; only Englishmen of Anglo-Saxon origin and Anglican church values are white; the rest of you are subhumanoids that lost miserably which is why we are speaking English right now and why every country worth anything at all was colonized by the English.

>>5066470
The 33% will suffer social ostracization or harsher penalties if they commit crimes, also I'd wager that that percentage would shrink in a culture that stresses kinship. As you yourself pointed out its very low in some countries.

>>5066596
>Ok, so then why use race as the proxy instead of the actual biological unit of family?
It's not my choice. Non-whites aren't going to renounce their ethnic loyalties and there isn't even a push for one. The relationships between races seem to be adversarial, and let's not pretend that "ebil whitey" is the prime culprit here. Non-whites are 100x more racist and tribal than we are.

Anyway, my point is that muh ancapistan will never happen because people have empathy and aren't receptive to "ree fuck Ill people" If we want to improve the population, eugenics is the way, not extreme social darwinism controlled by unregulated markets.

>>5064517
this desu. Everytime a lolbertarian says muhhh "econ 103" to explain how the free market will fix it I cringe so fucking hard. The best experts on the subject you are quoting think your an idiot. Even that ancap shitter Caplan admits its inefficient and understands imperfect markets.

>>5066656
>>5066597
>can't hold a debate
>literally only shitposting about race
Present an argument please.

>>5066653
>I was literally going to pay an Anon to show me his race
And you wonder why the jews always win.

>your parents left their people to come to the USA
Yeah, because there were better opportunities here. Stop pretending like all immigrants are the same, some people are sponsored because they have invaluable skills that help Americans, e.g. a PhD in chemical engineering. Tell me why you don't want high IQ immigrants from other countries that are willing to learn the language and assimilate.

>>5066737
Imagine being so pathetic the closest to a thing to be proud of yoh have ia your skin tone. Grats senpai you cant get sickle cell anemia and burn easily. You did a lot to achieve that and are totally biologically better than Obama.

>>5066799
Why dont you want to live in India?

>>5066724
One of which is India; which this board likes to pretend are all "scammy pajeets". In reality, it's just amerimutts losing money to other dumb amerimutts and then screaming "pajeet" while flinging shit at each other.

>>5066737
>eugenics
>extreme social darwinism
These are the same thing unless you're saying that there is some all-knowing entity that you would willingly allow to sterilize you for "the greater good". Are you prepared to make that deal?

>>5066764
>markets aren't perfect
But they're the best decision-making system we have.

>>5066801
Literally none of that is relevant to my post.

>>5066799
fucking kek

America is full boyo. We dont need any more people especially not a pajeet

>>5066801
You clearly don't understand his point. Its not about having nothing else to be proud of. Its that every other race has clearl racial loyalties and promote their own people. Whites can get with the program and do the same or we'll just get fucked over.

>>5066888
Not sterilisation as such but the birth rates of certain segments of the population should be controlled. Low-IQ people shouldn't breed as much, nor should poor people, short people, ugly people etc.

Market eugenics is what produced the average fat medicated Amerifat. Actual eugenics prioritises people first, which helps markets anyway.

ITT: ancap brainlets call fascists and any statist system subversive Jews despite being incapable of recognizing syncretic politics which does not operate on a dichotomy of 'socialism or not'.
The kicker is that the ideological basis of anarcho-capitalism rests on the work of mostly Jews who support the abolition of the nation-state and state borders, which is fundamentally economically globalist: that supports mass immigration of labour forces if the companies profit from cheap, third-world labour.

>>5066922
he says the "muh skin tone" bullshit but then for some reason prefers to live among people with "muh white skintone"

>>5066888
>"amerimutt"
>defending the annoying pajeet shills
>hating whites in a white country that you live in

Nobody will ever like you or take you seriously

>>5066850
You don't even fucking know that I don't and I don't make decisions on where to live based on how similar people's skin color is to mine. I also don't need everybody to be Hindu around me in order to practice Hinduism, and I have no ill feelings towards any individual regardless of race. Does that mean I don't cross the street late at night when there's a nigger? Hell no, I avoid going outside at night because of niggers. But I'm not going to pretend like I can judge every individual based on a statistical pattern, much less support the government disenfranchising entire groups of people based on statistical patterns. As an American, I was taught people are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

And frankly, I DO want to live in India because right by my ancestral rice paddies is a phenomenal wind resource in the Bay of Bengal, and all that wind energy would mean cheap bitcoin mining. But I have to work up the capital for that and moving, and that's going to take laboring in the USA because I can't afford to just move across the world because some idiot on 4chan said my skin color didn't match his. Can't imagine what it's like living your life with skin pigmentation being your greatest accomplishment.

>>5067038
This meme will never die as long as you are salty about it.

>>5064201

>>5066888
>One of which is India, which this board likes to pretend are all scammy pajeets
Most Indians that live in India and are trying to communicate on Western platforms are shills. That's not because Indians are inherently scammers its because there's a whole business sector for that in that country. Its why so many scam calls are made by Indians. I don't know how many times I've had some Indian call me to address the "problem" I have on my Windows PC and wanting my computer information, this despite not even having a Windows OS. They're doing it because its their job.

Overall though I don't have an issue with Indians, they tend to be hard workers and high IQ.
>
These are the same thing unless you're saying that there is some all-knowing entity that you would willingly allow to sterilize you for "the greater good". Are you prepared to make that deal?
There's other forms of eugenics than negative eugenics. You can introduce financial incentives for an improved next generation. For instance you could start giving a tax break to anyone utilizing IVF in combination with genetic screening of viable embryos who's planning on having a child.

>>5067040
Nobody, nazis included, Judge the individual, thats a complete misunderstanding of the whole idea...

Read J.Evola. The individual is not the coutnry, the country begins at the family, then the church, then the town, then the state

any kind of anarchy is bad whether people want to admit it or not government is necessary

>>5067030
>Race is only skin-tone or ethnicity
Read Oswald Spengler, pleb

>>5066962
>low IQ people shouldn't breed as much
So maybe the first fucking item on the agenda should be ending welfare for having babies. But that's not what it is, it's "deport all brown people", which is the clearest evidence that it's not about eugenics at all, it's just a white identitarian reactionary movement to its black analogue on the left.

>market eugenics produced the average amerifat
No, a welfare state and progressive income tax do exactly the opposite of what market eugenics would do.

I'm starting to get the picture that ancap is really just an excuse to create an economic and political society where white nation states can be a thing.

Is Ancap just low key white supremacism?

>>5065317
this anon gets it

>>5067040
> stuck on the skin tone meme
Get over the skin tone meme bro, its not about skin its about certain groups building better civilizations than others. Thats why you are triggered af right now. You say you want to live in India but you really dont because you know how corrupt it is, you would rather live among whites. You arent an American either you are an Indian. By the way, whether my people are amazing or total garbage I want to live with them, I dont want to be a foreigner or minority.

>>5067109
>the whole idea
You haven't put forward an idea except that
1. all brown people, because they are brown, are bad shitskins
2. white is right and good and moral and perfect, therefore point 1 is true.

>>5067199
>most vocal ancap in this thread is an Indian Hindu
>Is it low key white supremacism
No.

>>5067086
Corporations are government inventions.

>>5067221
>its about certain groups building better civilizations than others
Then why are pajeet Americans better educated, earn more, take less welfare, commit less crime, etc. than the average white American?

>>5067226

literally, didnt say that

Why do you keep memeing me when I actually want to discuss? Is it because you actually dont know shit?

>>5066962
>short people, ugly people
That's fucking retarded. I'm not even an ugly manlet but that's fucking retarded.

>>5065857
>life is flowery and happy!! And there is enough cake for everyone!!! We just need to cut the slices a bit smaller but who cares, we are overpopulating!!! And more people is goood

>>5067164
>So maybe the first fucking item on the agenda should be ending welfare for having babies. But that's not what it is, it's "deport all brown people", which is the clearest evidence that it's not about eugenics at all, it's just a white identitarian reactionary movement to its black analogue on the left.
Yep because we believe in the nation state. If India was being conquered by chinks I wouldnt support that. Funny how you want the founders principles of freedom but you reject their ethnocentrism.

>>5067221
>my people
What people? You say you're "white", does that mean all Caucasoid people? All European Caucasoid people? You don't even know what the fuck you are because you're a fucking mongrelized bastard yet you have the audacity to call others out on their race.

>>5067262
>immigration is a good proxy to estimate ethnic patterns
Yes, and all the English teachers as immigrants in South Korea are stellar in those metrics, too.

>>5067262
So what youre saying is, you think your race is better than whites?

>>5067164
Lolno. The money obsession that's imbued in the American psyche is responsible for their decline. Real eugenics would create better people which would create a better market anyway.

I support welfare (in moderation) because I have empathy for people genuinely in need. While I don't support our over-generous system, I don't mind paying some taxes to prop up infrastructure. Ancaps try so hard to prove how tough they are by spouting "let poor people die" but they just come off as edgy bitches.

>>5064215
is that hoppe?

>>5067262
Because the poor street shitting pajeets cant afford to immigrate, so you are taking the best of india and comparing them to the entire USA which includes non whites. Look how insecure you are right now. I dont have a problem with non whites, but I do want to have my own country for my own people, like this country was founded.

>>5067275
Yeah, ugly people as in genuinely deformed people need to be stopped. Manlets too, since they're responsible for all wars

>>5064314
Apologize to him.

>>5067322
>English teachers as immigrants in South Korea
Less than .001% of their population so yes that is helpful in estimating as it shows there will be no significant change.

>>5067311
I grew up in a white society so I know what Im talking about and what my goal is, unlike you who grew up as a stranger in a strange land and are harboring obvious resentments because of that. You are defending multiculturalism not because its better for liberty, prosperity, markets and ancapism, but because you need to justify being here and dont want to be removed.

>>5067164
Oh yeah, I forgot the moronic ancap alternative: abolish the state and state borders to get rid of the welfare state, then ethnically different peoples will return to their nations. It's a waiting game with an uncertain future. Instead, deportation is the obvious alternative that doesn't rely on inaction.

>>5067265
>I actually want to discuss
Make an argument any time mate. You're getting exactly the same quality back as you're putting in.

>>5067293
>believe in the national state
Ok, let's assume you're right and it happens and you have a 100% white ethnostate with no shitskins of any kind. Tell me how progressively taxing the richer, more educated, higher IQ people and spending that welfare on the lower IQ single moms and teenage pregnancies isn't literally dysgenic. You're supporting the genetic trash by taxing the genetically strong, even if they're all white.

>>5067414
Who said anything about significant change? I'm saying that taking brain drain immigration as a proxy for, say, Indians in India is a poor judgement.

>>5067311
>>5067431
To add to that, you are here as an immigrant in my country, and you have the audacity to tell me that my people dont even fucking exist. You are the jews dream come true.

>>5067455
>think nationalists follow marxist socialism, taxing based on classism
are you serious?

>>5067455
>Ok, let's assume you're right and it happens and you have a 100% white ethnostate with no shitskins of any kind. Tell me how progressively taxing the richer, more educated, higher IQ people and spending that welfare on the lower IQ single moms and teenage pregnancies isn't literally dysgenic. You're supporting the genetic trash by taxing the genetically strong, even if they're all white.
I never said I want any of that you are strawmanning me. But coincidentally those things were happening at a lower rate when America was an ethnostate. Strong families and communities dont need a welfare state.

>>5067455
>Tell me how progressively taxing the richer, more educated, higher IQ people and spending that welfare on the lower IQ single moms and teenage pregnancies isn't literally dysgenic.
Bring back traditional family values, but pair it with abortions for those who have made immature life decisions, such as teenaged pregnancies. Or, just have the couple marry if you don't want to abort.
Tax will always exist so long as the nation-state exists, and a proportion will go to rearing families, but that doesn't mean we must abide with the families that result from pregnancy. Consider all the black single mothers who aborted their children. The US would be closer to 50% or 48% had they all took their children to term.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.

>>5064201
bullshit

AnCaps = Crypto. All you liberal cucks are our guests.

>>5067455
Oh, and also you are confusing Marxian, class-based socialism with nation-based socialism (that was actually corporatist).
Big difference between corporations operating with semi-autonomy so long as they do not deviate from the state's economy (for example, a war economy) versus public cooperatives with no employers or formal 'corporations'.

>>5066922
no. they just hate you.
t. non racist whiteboy who gets on fine with all other races and doesn't feel threatened because he's not a fucking loser. blackpride shit is stupid to dont get me wrong Cletus, but fighting retard collectivism based on physical characteristics is always dumb. Thank god I have what it takes to make it as an individual
>>5066888
best decision making we have. Yeah but there is a large role for government for ensuring their efficiency at a micro level alone. monopoly control for instance.

>>5067331
Sure; especially when you account for "Indian" not being a "race" since we actually had a eugenics system for 5000 years. Hindu India is the only extant artificial selection eugenics experiment ever conducted on humans over a long time, and that's why even with a supposed average IQ of 82 you see high caste Indians outperforming people in every field. Statistically, the worst race to be in college admissions is "Indian"; etc.

>inb4 then go back
Ok, pay me to do it. Otherwise, I'm the legal holder of title on my property and you doing anything to interfere with that is a blatant violation of everything you said made whites superior to shitskins in the first place.

>>5067341
You're oversimplifying it. AnCaps aren't trying to be particularly edgy; the argument is that anything the government can provide as a service the private market would do better at lower cost.

>>5067361
>i want my own country for my own people
But they're NOT "your own people"; you don't have a common heritage or tradition except for arguably 200 years. The entire idea of "white" is American, because you're a fucking mutt mixture of actual European traditions and cultures. And none of this has ANYTHING to do with organizing economic policy; it's just you're so damn whiny about "muh whiteness" you can't discuss anything anywhere without making it about racial differences.

>>5067431
>you grew up as a stranger in a strange land and harbor resentments because of that
Projecting much; don't really care for 4chan's psychological evaluation

>defending multiculturalism
When? If you think me arguing "i have a right to my legally obtained property in the USA" is advocating multiculturalism, then sure. Because the opposite of that is entirely unAmerican seizure of personal property without due process.

>you defend multiculturalism because you want to stay here
I literally gave you a fucking business plan for India and said I was willing to pursue it

>>5067618
libertarian cuck drivel. blackmail is a violation of the NAP, and you can't have voluntary exchange while a state exists, because for a state to exist it must tax like the parasite it is, and you cucktarians advocate for a state despite the fact that they continuously grow and are virtually impossible to keep limited or small

>>5067759
>t. non racist whiteboy who gets on fine with all other races and doesn't feel threatened because he's not a fucking loser. blackpride shit is stupid to dont get me wrong Cletus, but fighting retard collectivism based on physical characteristics is always dumb
woah your brain must be huge
>muh collectivism vs individualism dichotomy
you realise all your norms and laws arise from the existence of a collective, right? You can't have trade between individuals without norms to govern transactions (to raise trust), or have languages without the existence of norms shared and moderated by groups

>>5064201
It is epic. I am one. But we must get rid of brown people frist.

>>5067795
>But they're NOT "your own people"; you don't have a common heritage or tradition except for arguably 200 years. The entire idea of "white" is American, because you're a fucking mutt mixture of actual European traditions and cultures. And none of this has ANYTHING to do with organizing economic policy; it's just you're so damn whiny about "muh whiteness" you can't discuss anything anywhere without making it about racial differences.
And again, you wonder why we dont want you here. NW europeans have been on the continent over 400 years. That is my heritage and ethnicity. I literally havent said anything about "muh whiteness" that is your projection. I just want the country to be as it was founded. And "white" isnt american its jewish. You are a jew shill telling me my people dont exist when I grew up in a majority NW european heritage community. You are telling that that never existed and that I can never have my own people. Thats why we dont like you or want you here. If you came as an immigrant and respected us and allowed us to exist it wouldnt be a big deal but you fell for the jew trick and antiwhite movement.

>>5067431
>multikulti
nobody ITT has said jackshit about "prosperity and markets" with regard to AnCap; it's literally immediately turned to "you're a shitskin get out" the moment I said I was Indian; half the reason I did that was because I knew that's exactly what would happen which proves how fucking stupid your fascist ideology is.

>>5067517
>taxing won't be based on income level
Ok, what will your tax level be based on? Flat? Progressive? Regressive? Value Added?

>>5067552
>dont need a welfare state
So now you're magically agreeing with AnCap because I said "let's suppose it was white". Fucking faggots literally will agree to anything as long as it's pasty white.

>>5067571
>the state will pay for abortions for immature decisions
So you're saying decisions shouldn't have consequences now? Such a generous state, wonder where the money is coming from.

>>5067717
>corporations need to comply with the state's economy
Yeah, that's called crony capitalism and results in disastrous investments made by central planners.

>>5067759
You do realise that it's whites who are vehemently the most tolerant, right? In fact, I used to be a tumblr-tier lefty like you too until I saw life for what it is. By the way, individual behaviours don't scale up to the macroscopic level. Even if the majority of the population were tolerant (and it is), we'll still see major segregation between races, classes etc which may seem to be indicative of intolerance but actually isn't.
>>5067795
Where necessary, free-markets should reign supreme but ancap clearly goes way beyond that into lunacy. We need the government.

>>5067795
thats funny, because every Indian Ive known has been working at a call center

also, I literally dont give a fuck dumbass. Theres enough room in america for a fascist nation to enclose off california and make it an anarcho paradise for you. The only times another race becomes a problem is when the numbers are growing exponentially, like the mexicans

Also, Japanese are the superior race

>>5067832
Not an argument .The state is necessary to eliminate transaction costs and ensure non-fraud/parasitism occurs in every interaction, centralisation of rents (taxes) is necessary to eliminate transaction costs

>they continuously
I don't advocate discretionary law or monopoly democracy, so no

>>5067856
>you can't have trade between individuals without tust and governance
>literally every fucking other thread on /biz/ is about trustless p2p transfers of value

>>5067929
>Ok, what will your tax level be based on? Flat? Progressive? Regressive? Value Added?
fixed value %. end of story

>>5067929
>nobody ITT has said jackshit about "prosperity and markets" with regard to AnCap; it's literally immediately turned to "you're a shitskin get out" the moment I said I was Indian; half the reason I did that was because I knew that's exactly what would happen which proves how fucking stupid your fascist ideology is.
No, I knew youu were nonwhite because your entire argument is antiwhite.

>>5067929
you are literally the only one that keeps bringing up race and arguing about race

>>5067964
>The state is necessary to eliminate transaction costs and ensure non-fraud/parasitism occurs in every interaction
>every interaction
>centralisation is necessary

you aren't even a cucktarian, you're a typical deluded statist

>>5067929
>So you're saying decisions shouldn't have consequences now? Such a generous state, wonder where the money is coming from.
From the taxpayer to support ridding the community of those people. It's like paying the police to limit crime, it will always exist, just like immature teenagers.
Also, if you weren't a brainlet and actually listened to the argument's steelman instead of making up your own selective strawman, you would realize that I said "or just have the two marry if you don't want to abort". That's how many families used to join together, no reason that can't still be the case.
>Yeah, that's called crony capitalism
Now you have shifted the claim from 'it's socialism or not' to 'well, that's crony capitalism'. Good job winning the argument I never disputed.

>>5068054
Not an argument.

>>5067927
>NW Europe
Where? Point to a village or at least nationality. I can literally point out on a map the village and ancestral lands that my caste has lived on for at least 2000 years. At least Hitler valued other peoples' traditions, you LARPing piece of shits can't get anything into your skulls except "it must be the kikes"

>respected us and allowed us to exist
I'm not a spic or a nigger, buddy. I didn't do shit to you and Indians and other Asians in the USA haven't done anything wrong to whites except work hard, but you don't want us here because we're outcompeting you now.

>you voted leftist
So do white women and cucks; it's a free fucking country anyone is allowed to vote for whoever they want. If you want to penalize people for not toeing the party line you're not an American any more, you're just a nazi.

>>5068076
pretty sure no one here has a problem with the beautiful history of India or asians, we have a problem with people like you
>but I assimilated
no you didnt, you are an ancap

https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html

>>5068037
>>5068012

>>5068009
>fixed value %
Based on what? Wealth? Income? You haven't really thought this through, and it shows.

>>5068067
>pay the police to limit crime
>pay undesirables not to have kids
These are not at all the same. Having kids is a choice, and who is the state to choose who should and should not have kids? Being a victim of a crime isn't a choice and the police are specifically contracted to prevent and expose crimes.

>or just have the two marry if you don't want to abort
That doesn't solve the problem of now having an undesirable brainlet (you) now existing in the gene pool.

>socialism or not
>crony capitalism
Crony capitalism IS socialism and the government has no fucking place deciding which industries should be subsidized or curtailed. Good job not disputing anything ITT, autist.

>>5068076
You're accusing us of bringing race into the mix but ALL of your points are predicated on race. You're looking looking at racial conflicts within the context of economics, which only proves that race is the underlying issue here, not economics There is no peace, only war. Racial integration is a myth. Oswald Spengler was right.

>>5068076
>Where? Point to a village or at least nationality. I can literally point out on a map the village and ancestral lands that my caste has lived on for at least 2000 years. At least Hitler valued other peoples' traditions, you LARPing piece of shits can't get anything into your skulls except "it must be the kikes"
Primarily Britain with some french and german. You are taking this way too personal and are triggered as fuck. Here you are calling for whites to not embrace their heritage while at the same time bragging about yours. When the hell did I ever say all nonwhites are bad or something? I want all people to have their homeland. You are too triggered pajeet and wont even listen to what Im saying, and for that reason I am out. And the pajeet ancap voted for hillary? Imagine my shock.

>>5067984
No, you can't have effective wide-scale trade without trust and governance, which is why cryptocurrencies will always be regulated once they reach a suitable scale. Nobody has any reason to permit someone else to defraud them, a rational person will always choose to perform a transaction backed by law over one not backed by law, hence why rational people always have and will always choose states over low-trust libertarian shitholes.

>>5068076
>So do white women and cucks; it's a free fucking country anyone is allowed to vote for whoever they want. If you want to penalize people for not toeing the party line you're not an American any more, you're just a nazi.
That freedom has allowed for subversive immigrants to enter in and continue to vote leftist. Freedom has always required selectiveness in order to be beneficial to the target demographic. I don't care about freedom for some Indian immigrant groups, they can stay in their own nation and improve their situation there. Access to European homelands is not a human right.
Also, it's ironic that a civnat cuckold is berating others for not being American enough when many of the founding fathers were explicit white nationalists who sought to maintain the ethnic composition of the US.
American history has always involved rejection of election results, like secession.

>>5064201
NAME ONE SERVICE THE STATE PROVIDES THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN NOT DO BETTER

>>5068249
Law.

>>5068223
Economics is downstream of culture, which pajeet refuses to admit.

>>5068257
common law
natural law
next?

>>5068157
>we have a problem with people like you
Yeah, people who disagree with your opinions. That's always been the problem for fascists and communists, people just won't stop disagreeing and then they have to be taken out back to be shot. The proof is that if I never said I was Indian and had LARPed as white instead, you two would have zero arguments at all.

>>5068215
>These are not at all the same
I did not make an equivalence, I made an analogy.
>and who is the state to choose who should and should not have kids?
I am, it is my will to power. You are weak and die. The state is the free market of force working to produce a winner. Don't like it, move.
>now existing in the gene pool.
Regression towards the mean occurs once a generation. Not to mention, it was with that 'bad breeding' that many European nations became superpowers.
>Crony capitalism IS socialism
I dispute your claim, provide proofs.

>>5068277
>>5068249
mortgage loans. dont you remember what happened in 2008?

>>5068273
economics is a result of law
law is a result of culture

>>5068273
I don't even agree with you. I think race as culture matters more than ethnicity but if the culture is cohesive and if it works by keeping birth rates high then an ethnicity will form. If you have to legislate an ethnostate then you're probably doomed anyway

>>5068335
a free market would not have allowed the collapse, because it would not have been inflated in the first place you fucking idiot

>>5068249
national defense
law
roads

>>5068306
I dont care about your race, its the fact that you live in america and want to change politics to your retarded ancap fantasy. I mean its clear you hate whites as a bonus though

>>5064201
An ideal but cannot exist just like how the free market will never be a completely competitive market due to the lack of perfect information. So something we should always strive towards, but something we will likely never get.

As said by crypto communists, it looks great on paper but just can't work irl. Except communism looks shit on paper if your anything other then a brainlet and ancap looks great on it and just can't work because of perfect information being impossible to achieve.

>>5068400
>national defense
alexa, whats a militia?
>law
common law, natural law
>roads

>>5068436
>militia
>national defense
pick one

>common and natural law
yep, done better by states

>privately built roads
hahahaha

>>5068359
You maybe gonna explain what you mean by "wouldnt have allowed collapse" and "wouldnt have allowed it to get inflated"

>>5068232
>he thinks I voted for Hillary
No; I've just been on /pol/ long enough to know the exact talking points you'll go to next, which is that Asians vote Democrat. I myself voted for Trump, as did my family. We wanted low taxes for the rich, and we got them.

>>5068223
>I'm a pajeet
>REEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT SHITSKIN
>why did you make this all about race pajeet?

>>5068238
>cryptos will be regulated
Ok; go ahead and try to regulate monero.

>>5068250
>civnat cuckold
Dude, I'm AnCap. This thread is about AnCaps. You can go circlejerk to George Lincoln Rockwell on /pol/.

>>5068257
Wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o

>>5068488
what do you think led to the collapse in 2008?
be more specific than mortages

>>5068273
Economics is a result of mathematical optimization by quasi-rational actors. Laws and culture follow from such.

Kikes discovered after the great war class warfare does not work on german/english/american
So they invented Cultural Marxism
after WW2 they discovered that does not work either
Racial solidarity prevented it
SO kikes invented hyper individualism to wedge in an opening so they could slip in cultural Marxism.
Sort of worked
It did with you at least
But the only people who are breeding making babies are highly kin selected Christian gun loven right wingers.
In the coming race wars you will either join them for protection or stick with your ideals alone and be killed alone by the shitskin hordes.

>>5068309
>the state is the free market of force
Nigger what the fuck?

>>5068404
>want to change politics to AnCap fantasy
I never said that; frankly I don't want the US cultural baggage and want to make an oceanic AnCap "state". Also, it would get rid of you mongs because we're gonna have a big sign on the door saying "<130 IQ no admittance"

>>5068509
The housing market bubble kicked off the collapse
Leham brothers and Fannie freddie dealt solely in MBS
the stock market would have crashed if the Fed didnt step in

>>5068602
>The housing market bubble kicked off the collapse
be more specific
>Leham brothers and Fannie freddie
would have been destroyed by the free market and never been allowed to get so big due to competition

>>5067936
>tumblr tier lefty.
Hurr if you arent a racist you are tumblr.
Classic /pol/
>>5067856
lolno. individuals join a social contract to preserve their property rights and societal stability. not because they are to weak for individualism or tribalist bullshit. that's just you.
>>5068273
>economics is downstream of culture.
W...w...what? the mathmatical analysis of human behaviour in the presecence of scarcity is "downstream from culture?" hey bill Trump is president, we dont optimize utility with respect to budget anymore. Calculus was so last cultural trend.... o...o...okay.

>>5068602
>the stock market would have crashed if the Fed didn't step in
>the housing bubble kicked off the collapse
All you need to know about this Anon is perfectly evident in the above two statements.

AnCap is a jewish scam and leads to oligarchy by default. Flipside to communism, in both cases a (((small elite))) owns pretty much everything.

>>5068594
ok, then there is no problem with that. Im just saying America historically is white and christian, so it shouldnt be a surprise that a Hindu Indian with ancap ideals isnt wanted here

>>5068667
>leads to oligarchy by default
explain
surely you know under common law that would not be permitted

>>5065631
That's fucking literally what it exactly is. Do you think that employers will pay minimum wage because of... What exactly? Not regulations; since anarchy obviously implies that there is not a governing entity. This concisely proves both my arguments.

>>5068674
With all due respect, you're a moron and financially illiterate.

>>5066799
Because Indians are ugly and they're slimy, stingy bumlickers.

>>5068501
>REEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT SHITSKIN
Except I didn't say that lol. You clearly had a stick up your ass about whites from the get-go and got racial when people poked your buttons a little. There will be no generation of people where race doesn't matter. It matters now, as evidenced by the poc VS white dynamic and will matter in the future. Oswald Spengler is still right...

>>5068674
>the founders werent ancaps or almost ancaps
they created a government that fucking crippled itself with 3 branches and gave it literally 1 job dude
they knew if they didnt make a government and cripple it, someone else would make a government and not be so kind

>>5068641
he's not wrong. But you can blame the shadow banking system (not what you think it is /pol/) and subprime lending.
>>5068674
actually America is historically aboriginal and canoe spirit worshiping shit. like at least 95% of its history. Than europeans came and through cultural Darwinism made it what it is today. Which makes me question why you are scared of external influence
>christian
ahhhh

>>5068639
So what? I'm right, and you're wrong.

>>5068750
not an argument.

>>5068633
>be more specific
theres nothing more to say

>would have been destroyed by the free market and never been allowed to get so big due to competition
competition failed, this is a free market

>All you need to know about this Anon is perfectly evident in the above two statements.
doesnt mean I like the fed, thats just the truth of what happened

>>5068707
And that's why less than 5% of people have minimum wage jobs?

>>5067040
It's not just the difference in skin pigmentation, its skull-type, phenotype, preposition of character, IQ, innate creativity and, in your case, body odour.

>>5068748
>actually America is historically aboriginal and canoe spirit worshiping shit.
actually american is rightful neanderthal-ice bridge land

>>5068693
>under common law
well that would depend on who owned the land, capital and the courts

>>5068723
>Oswald Spengler
>Oswald Spengler
>Oswald Spengler
You've mentioned that nigger 3 times and nobody gives a shit buddy.

>I didn't say that lol
Ok; one of your other 3 circlejerking nazi LARPing friends did. Do you want me to stay or prefer that I leave?

>>5066392
>muh state is fair

>>5068769
You didn't give any rebuttals to what I said anyway. All you did was call me /pol/, dipshit.

>>5068802
lay out a specific scenario where an oligarchy would exist under ancap
the courts are run by clergys, historically, and based off the big 3 religious books (that is where the two fundamental laws come from)

>>5066392
>government
>protect his rights

>>5068712
I guess thats why I btfo you in this thread numerous times

>>5068748
The natives came over from siberia, and they didnt own United states, so that isnt what Im talking about.

>>5068727
when this was a new land and escaping the monarchy sure. Not relevant to the booming american industrial era

>>5068823
Oswald Spengler was right. He will always be right. You're wrong. You're a fucking idiot, and in fact I've been courteous with you while you shit your pants over "muh white trash welfare state". Ancapistan ain't happening. The government is here to stay. Eugenics is GOAT.

>>5068903
>Not relevant to the booming american industrial era
what changed? why would an industrial economy suddenly require the state?

>>5068748
>he's not wrong
He's ignoring the fucking low interest rate bubble during Greenspan and Bernanke that lead to the housing bubble in the first place, and then turns around and defends the fucking Federal Reserve bailouts all while being a nazi larper complaining about jews. He might not be wrong, but he's an idiot.

>>5068794
>skull type
>phenotype
>preposition of character
>IQ
>innate creativity
Those don't work on pajeets, buddy. We're caucasian and have significant admixture from the same paleogenetic groups, which is why R1a is so prevalent in India.

>body odor
Don't make me find your street and shit in it.

>>5068878
are we talking about medieval europe now?
okay so i guess thats not an oligarchy, but a monarchy?

>>5068937
>ancapistan ain't happening
>eugenics will happen
Laughable levels of autism.

>i've been courteous with your muh white trash welfare state
So courteous you never even posited an argument against it!

>>5068789
The point is that if employers have the chance to lower wages without any repercussion you would see lower wages overall, idiot

>>5067073
Sometimes Andrew Anglin can be a real cunt
First he drapes himself in the American flag
Then he memes the fuck out of the 51% void.

Absolute failure of course.
But now brit pajeets and pakis flood 4chan with this shit every time you even mention white America.
Lay off the adderall anglin
It is making you fuck everything up.

>>5068960
>are we talking about medieval europe now?
well common law existed up until recently, late 1700s

>>5068978
State mandated eugenics + More controlled welfare state. It's as realistic as your proposals.

>>5068993
So why do 95% of the employers in the US not use the chance to lower wages without any repercussion? Moron

>>5068993
>The point is that if employers have the chance to lower wages without any repercussion you would see lower wages overall, idiot
have you taken an economics class?

>>5068903
>didnt own U.S.A they owned the oart of America that is now the U.S.A. and the europeans came over and made it 100x better. So i dont know why you arw scares of people coming and making it better. I swear to god one day we will be living like kings and Americuck christfag white nationalists will be known as the Omish.
>>5068941
he is an idiot. Also low interest doesnt cause bubbles approving people does but default risk counterintuitively rises with interest rates.
>>5068902
In the state of nature I can kill you in your sleep and steal your stuff which gives me an incentive to kill you first and steal your stuff which gives you an incentive to kill me. Thus a state of war where no property rights exist.
>>5068845
You didnt make an argument. You just sort of drooled. Now back to your containment board. If you guys cant blend in then fuck off.

>>5068993
just fyi for lurkers THIS is the person telling you what to invest in
/biz/ was reddit free until recently.

>>5069061
Then point out what's wrong with what I said, you dumb spaz.

>>5069019
so we are talking about monarchy or not?

>>5069061
>In the state of nature I can kill you in your sleep
violation of the second fundmental law, do not encroach on other people or their property
if you violate that law, and are found guilty in a common law court, you either would pay a fine to my relatives/family or you would be denied common law coverage, meaning my family could
a. set a bounty on you
b. enslave you
c. kill you
and under that scenario you would not kill me, would you?

>>5069091
why dont you name 1 situation where ancap leads to oligarch or monarch

>>5068939
Because america became huge and the world changed. we werent muskets and cornbread anymore. Crime was being imported from italy and Ireland, you need a fucking government

>>5068941
>the low interest rate bubble
fucking lol. you mean the one caused by entities like LIBOR and private banks doing swaptions?

>defending the bailout
once again, I dont like the fed, but pumping up the markets was necessary. I dont see another way to have saved the markets

>>5069042
>state mandated eugenics
>more controlled welfare state
Good ideas don't require force, Anon.

>>5069114
medieval europe

>>5069061
What state of nature, you think that without nanny state I wouldn't, voluntarily, chose to live in a safe place?

Private cities motherfucker, competition between governing models and clear ownership and contracts, we're not calling for mad-max here.

>>5069135
>save the markets
Extinction level events are part of evolution.

>low interest rate bubble caused by LIBOR & swaptions
>implying the US Federal Reserve doesn't enable that shit in the first place

>>5069165
>competition between governing models
is that what they call civil war nowadays

>>5069135
>Because america became huge and the world changed.
the world changed because of america, not despite it
>we werent muskets and cornbread anymore
that doesnt mean anything
>Crime was being imported from italy and Ireland,
oh, if only there was a way to prevent crime without a government.....
>>5069163
be more specific

>>5069199
>a statist cant even comprehend the idea of competition unless it involves murdering the competition
classic

>>5069165
>muh nanny state

whats stopping a warlord from traveling around and enslaving you? Its only happened in every african country

>>5069165
>Private cities
Extortion by the city owners

FTFY.

>>5069199
No, it's what they call segregation and free association.

>>5069163
actually, how about the reverse
if the government was dissolved tomorrow, what problems do you think would instantly arrive? i will explain every one you come up with.

>>5069079
what was your argument? you used to be a tumblr retard and now you are a /pol/ retard but didnt realize the retard part wad the problem? nice blog. That you never left Alabama so think racial integration is not possible. Ljke say, Vancouver, Signapore, most Northern States NY etc. That the USSR won the cold war and the individualist experiments in the USA and the west failed? cause I got news for you then...
>>5069098
your instiutions to enforce this are weak and create risk for moral hazard. Furthermore without proper centralized legitimized police they can not realistically prove my guilt. So you have to have lenient guilt which would create false claims and abuse. Your "societal" based justice system could not scale with modern society and thus would be exploited and abused. governmental institutions scale with society. 2hat you described would work 500-600 years ago and was by no means stateless. you are if anything weakening controls

>>5069098
>>5069165
Some sheeple just refuse to believe that people can make voluntary arrangements for mutual benefit without a government. Coincidentally, those sheeple are all poorfags.

>>5069154
Yes they do because the population are stupid. The average person is not capable of being ideologically consistent.

Also, in relation to your pic, actual stats show that Indian women prefer whitey to Indian men. ;) Don't worry though. If India abolishes its borders and adopts ancap ideas we'll see a fair redistribution of women.

>>5069202
>be more specific
the period of european history between the fall of rome and the enlightenment?

>>5069231
My city's private security, my post was literally 3 lines and you missed 2.

>>5069165
>private cities.
Great robbery targets. also there is no legal tender so the guards are going to kill you and ateal your stuff.

>>5069219
>an anarchist cant comprehend the idea that killing others is a valid way of competing even though he believes in darwinism

>>5069300
>What is third party arbitration/enforcement
You know, people tend to do good when they don't speak about things they obviously have no clue about.

>>5069202
>oh, if only there was a way to prevent crime without a government.....
vigilante justice? what could go wrong...

>that doesnt mean anything
Im saying when America was just colonies and new, it was simple, it should just show you that all societies transform to have a hierarchy, like all animals

>>5069252
>your instiutions to enforce this are weak
they are not weak, they have historical examples.
if you injure me and do not pay a fine set on precedent, i will not have to pay a fine if i injure you in return
its literally that simple
> without proper centralized legitimized police they can not realistically prove my guilt.
sure they can. what if we even had something called "private investigators"? shocking idea, i know
>>5069272
i want a specfic concrete example
>>5069319
killing someone is a violation of their fundamental rights which i have posted before

>>5069252
No, I'm going by stats in my home country which show that non-natives commit crimes at much higher rates than us, are significantly inbred, live in poor areas, and are responsible for most terrorism. Guessed the group yet?

>>5068789
Actually, it's not even all about wages. You obviously want a political and governmental-less economy, based on maximizing revenue. Do you not understand that a lack of over-all responsibilities as an employer would lead to worsened condition for the general populous?
Further, what incentive would there be for a company or employer to pursue a project that is non-profitable? In this political and economical state there is no reason to use resources to develop things that are for the sake of the inhabitants well-being. Anything that would not directly or indirectly create revenue because extremely less significant.
If you cannot grasp this, it just shows that you don't even understand the actual words Anarcho-capitalism, let alone the actual outcomes such a system would bring. You show that you don't understand what anarchy would do in real life and that you also do not understand what the combination with capitalism would result in.
Your simplification of real world implement is childish and honestly, juvenile.

>>5069354
>vigilante justice? what could go wrong...
almost a sort of common law system based on precedent and some sort of fundamental laws where you could-
no, sounds too complicated.
> all societies transform to have a hierarchy, like all animals
the difference between you and an animal is that you can see the positives and negatives of transforming and stop it or allow it.

>>5069284
>cities private security

Ah yes, the private police, these are some of the most heinous organizations on earth. No regulations, no requirement video tape, they get away with horrible shit. lots on psychopaths in the private police companies

>>5069385
>a lack of over-all responsibilities
if they mistreat their workers, what prevents a strike or competition from offering better compensation and conditions?

>>5069251
well assuming you couldnt just immediately form a new government:
civil security ie police
failure of centrally administered infrastructure
external military intervention

although my hands are tied if people cant try to form a local government of some kind, 90% of people would be trying to do that

>>5069269
>the average person is not capable of being ideologically consistent
That's why we have markets and reward people based on merit instead of having the state arbitrarily score people according to whatever (((they))) think is score-worthy.

>Indian women prefer whitey
Exactly, and then we concentrated all those superior white genes with our caste system eugenics into creating literal ubermensch, i.e. high caste pajeets.

A completely free market would be the most efficient and self correcting. Plus, with all my crypto gains, if Ancap society were achieved I could afford a recreational nuke.

>>5069385
>Do you not understand that a lack of over-all responsibilities as an employer would lead to worsened condition for the general populous?

No, I wouldn't. The countries that protects the worker the most are all shitholes or decaying relics.

What drives workers condition is supply and demand, that's why only 3% of workers in the US work at minimum wage, because the employers have to offer more than that or they'll have to do the work themselves.

>>5069165
also you keep harping "competition" but almost no market is perfectly competive and woupd be less so without government. Take electricity for example it's a natural monopoly. It scales from a huge fixed cost and can price control anyone out the market once established. Which means they will use monopoly powers to charge horrinly inneficent prices putting you out of electricity unleds you are spending all your money on it and they will be powerful. So people are going to start bombing their plants to make it so they can establish their own power company. Is this what you want?
>>5069343
>what is third party arbitration enforcement? a moral hazard?
hurrr if it works with government it must work without! is some stupid thought process.
>>5069362
>ON AVERAGE
as in there are immagranta that commit no crimes v.s. natives who commit mass crime completely dumping anyeugenics argument and suggesting structural and cultural forces.

>>5069357
>fundamental rights without applying the concept of sovereignty

>>5069434
>civil security ie police
police are not necessary, i can defend myself and so can everyone else
>failure of centrally administered infrastructure
this is a strength not a weakness
a local can build for the local needs better than a central agency
>external military intervention
do not encroach on others or their property.
if a country or group violates this on a national level, you and your militia would have a right, actually a duty, to respond.

>>5069408
If you want to sign away your rights for a police that is not regulated be my guest, I wouldn't want to live in a private city that doesn't have clear contractual obligations enforced by third party arbitration agencies.


And neither would anyone with an IQ over 90.

>>5069460
i just apply sovereignty different from you
my land, my property and my family are sovereign

>>5069444
>That's why we have markets and reward people based on merit
What is that even supposed to mean in relation to political ideas? How do the markets protect the political ideologies of America's founders? All the markets care about is maximising profits.

>>5069434
>civil security/police
Rent-A-Cops already exist and the DoD prefers Private Military Contractors to it's own soldiers because they are cheaper and more effective.

>centrally administered infrastructure
Like what? Property titles can be held on a blockchain; legal systems work according to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o (seriously, watch it)

>external military intervention
Bribe 'em or bribe the next best guy, or better yet bribe both.

>>5069405
>common law
nice meme. thats why Ourguy skreli is in jail


>the difference between you and an animal is that you can see the positives and negatives of transforming and stop it or allow it.

so you think we should do something that goes against our natural instinct? also you know very well that half the world is against whatever opinion you have so its not like your "positive" "negative" mean anything to the masses

>>5069491
>i can defend myself and so can everyone else
>a local can build for the local needs better than a central agency
>if a country or group violates this on a national level, you and your militia would have a right, actually a duty, to respond
you basically described medieval europe

>>5069263
Ancaps like this guy are getting BTFO'd in this thread. Butthurt levels begin to rise. The pajeet says Indians are caucasian. No one notices.

>mysides.jpg

>>5069447
No you stupid motherfucker. The "workers" do not drive their own condition; the combination of salary AND regulations adjusts the "workers" conditions. You would be fucking stupid if you think there would be no difference to general "workers" as you call them if you would have to choose one or the other.

>>5069560
> thats why Ourguy skreli is in jail
hes in jail because he violated political law
>so you think we should do something that goes against our natural instinct?
i dont know about you but i actually take meds that stop me from sneezing (stopping my bodies natural instinct)
>>5069578
>you basically described medieval europe
medieval europe had a few big problems, but the general idea would work if applied in modern times.

>>5069526
>all markets care about is maximizing profit
Care is the wrong word, markets cannot "care".

>what does this have to do with politics
Because with free market competition, the best system for organization will naturally be adopted by the market universally because those who refuse to adopt more efficient techniques & strategies go bankrupt over time. The free market is essentially evolution, except instead of physical fitness of individuals it measures economic fitness of individuals and corporations.

>>5069452
>as in there are immagranta that commit no crimes v.s. natives who commit mass crime completely dumping anyeugenics argument and suggesting structural and cultural forces
The minority doesn't define how the majority act. If non-natives were imported on a individual case-by-case basis then I'd agree with you, but they're not. They're hastily imported by the hundreds of thousands to replenish a dwindling population - which is clearly not a good basis for a relationship because they know they have power. If the majority white population is maintained healthily then nonwhites should be permitted to enter. If not then we'll see racial division, crime spikes etc which is the antithesis of integration. Weakness is always taken advantage of and we're weak.

>>5069614
>hes in jail because he violated political law
the judge was a biased Hillary lover. Just look at the disgusting amount of prison time he is getting for an obvious joke

@5069595
But I get all the (you)s and (you) get none.

>>5069525
>my land, my property and my family are sovereign
that means you are prepared to die to defend it. you are sovereign so long as you are prepared and victorious

>>5069652
You didn't answer my question. I know how markets function to improve profits but that's based on technological and internal organisational changes designed to increase profits. How do markets produce better, healthier people or how do they maintain a principled population?

>>5069447
You are a naive retard that believes that such a system wouldn't escalate the less appealing element of humanity. You are either a child or an adult with the naivety of the aforementioned.

>>5069614
>feudalism would work if applied in modern times.
it might, but that isnt ancap its monarchy

>>5069683
>you are sovereign as long as you are prepared and victorious
Or if you've negotiated the necessary contracts for others to respect your sovereignty in exchange for you respecting theirs, and mutually punishing parties who disrespect either of your sovereignty.

>>5069653
you are moving goalposts. I do not support an immagration policy of taking in solely poor eneducated folks from religious theocracies and dumping them in a a ghetto together. I am arguing against eugenics or any "race based" argument. Ill take all your rich chinese. And we have a doctor shortage so Ill take any nonwhite doctors. You fan have our shitty white trash prison population.

>>5069757
or die when you fail

>>5069760
Who do you think I was referring to when I said "individual case-by-case" you mong? Eugenics should be applied to the general population too anyway so muh white trash doesn't fly.

>>5069698
>how do markets produce better, healthier people
I have an amazing new service/product that will make your kid smarter and more athletic.

>how do markets maintain a principled population
Who's principles? If the people want to be degenerate, you're not going to stop that no matter how hard you try. Your best bet is to show people the full consequences of bad decisions, e.g. seeing broke teenage moms begging on the curb with their starving baby. That teaches little girls the last fucking thing you want is to be a broke teenage mom.

You TEACH people why bad decisions are bad by letting those who make them fail. If you reward failure by subsidizing it, everyone will fail.

>>5069447
You don't even understand the fucking basics of ANARCHY, you dense stupid brainlet. Anyone who believes that anarchy and capitalism is a viable political and economical environment have no idea of what would happen in the real world and not in their stupid "theory" of what the real world would look like. Humanity isn't as well-intending that is required for such a system to be the optimal one.

the precarious nature of any anarchist argument is that it always seems to move goalposts all the way to describing a federalist system. it's always "our local community (government) will do that,oh well they will have to work with the other community(municipality) to do that form like a (state)
>>5069808
amother move down the goalpost. you have yet to decry how eugenics can describe anything that's not the mean.

>>5069792
Pretty big incentive not to fail desu

>>5069760
>implying countries like america need to important more people
theres a massive oversaturation in every single sector. We need a purge, not immigrants

>>5069875
Tell me what would happen in the "real world" senpai

>>5069051
>>>5069424
>(You)
>>5069596
>>5069713
>>5069875

>>5069048
>>5069066

>>5069882
its not a problem if youre in a state and not in ancapistan
inb4 crime rate in burgerland

>>5069908
>he thinks there's a surplus of quality STEM PhDs
We need white people to stop majoring in Gender Studies and Political Science, is what we need. If you niggers would learn your math it would do a lot for the States, in general.

>>5069908
>important
>oversaturation
I mean ignoring you dont understand economies of scale or data showcasing they increase wealth within a generation. You know the U.S. has an insanely low unemployment right? and immagration?

>>5069937
Let me tell you what would not happen and then get the simple fact that anarcho-capitalism isn't the optimal system, thus ending this discussion:
it would NOT bring out the most caring and nurturing attributes from humans.

>>5069972
I can't tell if you're trying to say that in AnCapistan people will pay a premium for better police protection to suit their security needs or trying to say that in AnCapistan people are much less likely to commit violent crimes because police forces are paid to be effective and criminals are more likely to receive worse punishments and stand less to gain relative to working because there is no welfare to fall back on in case the householding male is jailed.

>>5070061
>let me presuppose my conclusion and therefore that refutes your argument

>>5069996
>low unemployment
thanks for my my point. Oversaturated

There isnt a shortage of scientists or doctors

>>5069937
>>5070140
You are so fucking stupid if you believe that the drive for revenue would single-handedly be enough to achieve the maximum over-all well-being for a group of
people or an area

>>5070061
its a basic prisoners dilemma style dominance solvability game. the best outcome is we are both nice to each other. But being a dick is a dominant strategy.
>>5070144
d...d...do you know what unemployment is?

>>5070154
America.

Hahahahahah implying that the US is an anarchy, I'm done with you

>>5070111
you'll definitely pay a premium, but there wont be better protection.
that is generally known as a mafia racket

>>5070225
how would policing work in ancap then?

>>5070172
>being a dick is the dominant strategy
That's not true because you are treating this as a 1-turn game; in reality it is multi-turn and there is a negotiation period, so the "prisoners" can coordinate and if they re-neg (be a dick), the other prisoner is less likely to cooperate in the future. Especially with the advent of the blockchain, i.e. the ability to conduct transactions without trust, the most likely outcome is that all parties will cooperate to their mutual benefit, because being a dick is an inferior strategy.