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Hold on sir please wait while I redirect your call.

Hello sir thank you for waiting. I am Michael Smith working for Intel tech support how may I help you?

Sir to answer your question there is a one time fee of $500 before we can fix your computer.

>>50629986
I have itunes gift cards. Will those work?

>>50629986
Shall I do the needful?

>>50629802
Because X86 is on the decline. Intel and AMD both hedged all their bets on this platform. It's a platform that sucks because it is made for marketing gimmicks instead of utility.
Risc or mostly ARM processors are our only future.

>>50630274
Do NOT redeem them ser

>>50630280
RISC-V is the future.
Sure, ARM is better for computers than all previous x86, but Ryzen 6000/7000 is shockingly competitive. You can have ultrabooks with 10hr battery life and roughly 1050ti performance now while staying cool as a cucumber.
AMD is, against all odds, making it work. At least in my opinion.

>>50630280
What's gimmicky about it? Other than the bloated instruction set making it harder than it needs to be to develop for, it served its use as general purpose

>>50630262
Yes sir they will be just right. Send me the codes.

>>50630280
>X86 is on the decline
yeah just disregard the decades of application develepment built on x86 and just rewrite all software from scratch bro

>>50630280
>ARM
>RISC
I see you are not familiar with CPU architectures and microarchitectures, but I am gonna let you know that typical AArch64 instruction stream is much more complicated than Intel 64.

>>50630454
RISC-V is far from being complete. You cannot build competitive processor until at least B and V extensions get complete. And there is still over reliance on uOp fusion which needs to be proven capable.

>>50630280
>It's a platform that sucks because it is made for marketing gimmicks instead of utility.

It's currently running the worlds energy grid, and all of industry you absolutely retarded ARM zoomer fag.

>>50629947
>Hello sir thank you for waiting. I am Michael Smith

>AMD has been winning since Ryzen
>Apple's M1 chips are surprisingly good
Give me one good reason to buy an Intel chip. muh 3mm chips by 2018 just two more weeks im shorting this piece of shit zombie corp

>>50630505
just compile it for different architecture retard

>>50630751
this ideology is incompatible with DRM world and this incident HAS been reported.

>>50630751
>be company
>it is the 2000s
>hire army of developers
>build company critical software
>now its the 2020s
>software still basically the same
>all engineers outsourced to china or retired
>source code outsourced to the chinese
just recompile it lol

>>50629802
you can't just say "we're going to make better stuff." this is real world engineering. we're running into a physical limitation of how small semiconductors can be. progress is slow and challenging. i know this is a shock to 85 IQ codeniggers whose solution to any roadblock is "just spend another $5k/mo on the AWS bill" or "the users should have 32 GB of RAM to use my todo app."

>>50629802
>I was going to ask /g/
haven't been there for years but for maybe 5 minutes and the vibe i got is they're overflowing with literal advertisers pretending to be posters for all of these companies much more than they ever were and there is a tremendous amount of butthurt regarding ryzen processors being good

>>50630454
Is it so much better than 5500?
My 5500 only has four hours of videoconferencing battery.
And the fan goes crazy when playing a ten year old game which was for what was entry level graphics at the time.

>>50629802
Should have copied Nvidia

>>50630487
>>50630650
Ok. I typed them into my itunes account. It now shows my balance. How do I send to you?

Arent the most recent intel chips flat out better than the comparable AMD chips? Sure its close, but you cant really use the cost to performance ratio with AMD anymore either since now they are juat as expensive (if not more) than intel.

Because an AMD from 2019 is unironically fine for most people

>>50631504
90% of consumer only need entrylevel notebook crap or stuff manufactured for consoles
this is amds game for now
its the servermarket where only virtualisation, hypervisor performance, stability, compatibility and drivers count
intel still has the edge there
its a decade long wave and flow
you buy cheap and sell high
thats the way to make it
every it guy with >20 years in the business will confirm this

>>50631449
Sure if you ignore motherboard cost and 500w power draws

>>50630454
>>50630280
>>50630627
>>50630530
Reminder that your smartphone only works as well as it does because of this woman, who is smarter than you

>>50629802
Intel was so far ahead of everyone else in the early 2010s they started putting engineering on the chopping block while spending like crazy in marketing, and was at the time also helmed by a CEO who came from the fucking marketing department. This has been catastrophic for Intel over the years and they're now in the position of having to play catch up as their R&D is now behind it's competitors. They rested on their lorals of "We're the best, why invest?" for a decade. Its only in the past 3-4 years that they've began their corse correction but it will take another fucking decade or so before the issue is fixed and that lost inertia will place them well behind Nvidia and AMD assuming they don't do something retarded on their ends.

TL;DR 2 retard short term stock price focused CEOs ruined everything

>>50631847
>woman

>>50632166
ebb and flow
amd will be in the same position in 10 years
going on for some time now see >>50631695

DAMN IT
My FREAKING HECKING INTEL??

>>50632166
hire suits, turn to poop

>All the new adel lake CPU’s are burning / melting all 2022 laptops

>Redditors are all surprised and angry that a little shit notebook goes to 100+ degrees Celsius from the 12’th Gen extreme wattage

AMD bro’s we won.

>>50631845
What kind of motherboard cost difference are we talking? Arent the AMD processors like ~$100 more for the equivalent processor to intel?

>>50632779
>we won
its a race with no finish line

>>50632166
Intel is also a kike company so they were just doing regular kike things

>>50632960
>Be Intel
>Be kike company
>Be friends with Israel
>Be friends with NSO
>Microsoft also friends with kike global
>Together they back door near every consumer and business computer
>Basically Intel gets caught doing so in 2017
>Microsoft constantly getting caught with back doors
>Neither ever punished
>Intel Israel Fab constructed immediately after meltdown/spectre

I wonder what the new back doors are since the old ones were forced to close

>>50630280
>AMD hedged all their bets on this platform
lmao you fucking retard

>>50629931
>>50629947
>>50629986

What chip company is infested with jeets? We should be able to trust jeets more then jews.

Their corporate customers are immune to propaganda.

>>50633594
I work at AMD and work with a lot of Jeets.

>>50629802
Thinkpad X2100 here. I love the movie Akira too.
Intel took too long to get to 4nm process.

>>50633794
what does the 'ThinkVantage' button do?

>>50633879
You don't want to know, it's too much for any man to bear.

>>50631847
Pretty sure it works as well as it does because of the engineers behind it

Not the retard woman with the man face whos ironically paid to do face

Their new CEO only started in february, he said the products he's responsible for don't launch until Q4.

>>50633937
It’ll be years before a new ceo can have a significant positive impact on products.
Negative impact can happen much quicker.
This is a bad sign.

>>50629802
AMD < Intel
Always has been, always will be. If it wasn’t true, you wouldn’t seethe uncontrollably every time its brought to your attention.

>>50633794
Based clitmouse enjoyer.

>>50629802
doctor, release my racism inhibitors

>>50634387
Ever heard of pentium 4 you little shit

>>50634563
Exactly the seethe im talking about

>>50634597
well are you a shill or just dumb

got complacent since amd was useless competition for a long time. then amd got its shit together and greated strong cpus which have always been their strenght, made gpus too which were cheap but had issues.

incel is a huge company so its harder and slower to change the course. so they are trying to play catch up in a bigger boat.

>>50630280
>>50630454
kek do you little zoomers know how retarded you sound?
They literally said the same thing in the 90s about RISC replacing x86.
Unless you plan on replacing decades of x86 legacy software that can't be rewritten for ARM, good luck with that.

Oh no, guys my computer still uses a FX8320 with an RX580,will /g/tards laugh at me for not dropping a few grand on the latest newest Ryzen CPU with the best GPU to pair with it that will most likely be dethroned by something better a year from now?

>>50634694
they are kids
they will learn
consumer market is nice - but no gamewinner
just look at the amd networking drivers for their chipset
wouldnt want that in a production environment

>>50634694
>decades of x86 legacy software that can't be rewritten for ARM
its been happening for a decade. Look at your phone

>>50633937
the most important product won't be new x86 shit, it'll be Intel acting as a foundry like TSMC and Samsung do, but they need capacity and they need to catch up with process, which isn't going to happen until 2024. It's why TSMC and Samsung are both racing to get new fabs built before Intel can
>>50634784
yeah and AMD's memory controller is dogshit. Their CPUs are decent, but everything surrounding them sucks for anything but vidyer gaem

>>50634830
>company software running on iphones
zoomer retard lol

>>50634830

>>50630505
I’d say 90% of shit out there can be compiled to ARM. That said, that 10% is probably the things that are most useful. Adobe took like a year to optimize their apps for AS, for example.

And there’s transpilers like Rosetta 2 which work really well for most application.

Just accepted it /g/yard. Apple Silicon is dominating to the point journos are not even including them in benchmarks because of how they crush x86-64 machines.

>I was going to ask /g/ but they only want to talk about ThinkPads and anime.
Based /oldboard/. I need to spend more time there.
Also fuck Intel they're in bed with spy companies.

>>50634863
>>50634909
Please invest in x86

>>50634979
believe me when i tell you that you havent seen 90% of shit out there
no way
standard application like adobe and msft - ok
but not company software
see >>50630922
you'd have to build from scratch and given that there already is a developer shartage for standard software you would need decades to port

>>50635085
lol *shortage
>>50635072
of course

as much as i would love to be on AMD's side, they have proven to be as worse as intel when Ryzen's demand increased. Look at the price difference of Ryzen 5 3600 & 5600X in 2020, with barely enough performance boost

Right now, Intel is winning the race tho but it feels great seeing both companies competing for prices.

>>50635493
what about Nvidia

>>50635493
this
competition is good for the customers
i'd love to see another gpu manufacturer and hope intel will soon compete with nvidia and amd
nvidia is too powerful and smug now

>>50633594
Micron has become jeet overload

>>50629931
>>50629947
>>50629986
>>50630487
Based
>>50633555
and checked

>>50629802
The entire OP post is the truth that would make the jews at Intel heads commit their heros.

>>50629802
Reality of current year personal computing and pleb computer usage and of the software and game development along with x86 architecture based consoles is that majority do not need anything more than an 4 core 8 thread i7 3770 and two sticks of dual channel ram, like 2x8GB of ddr3.

>>50629802
Thing that shits me most about all this bullshit is about 10years ago they were all about efficiency blah blah blah.
You seen the power draw on next gen gpus?
Latest intel junk barely lasts one working day on battery.
The latest amd is up to 12-15 hours.
I was never a fan of amd kit but theyre definitely giving the market what it wants.