/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50575405
No

look, I get it, no one owes me anything
I just don't want to have my money stolen from me to provide for non-whites, prisoners and women

>>50575405
shut the fuck up nigger don't let me google some graphs

>>50575552
Good anon, the tower of babel made us seperate, it should stay that way

>>50575405
In a society that wasnt ruined by millions of immigrants (aka white society) you would be able to own a house and afford a mortgage doing low skill labour jobs.

People act as though throughout history having a house had been some kind of magic privilige and not something that most people did. Blacksmiths owned fucking houses. Millers owned houses. Bakers owned houses. Farmers owned houses. This lie that you need to be some kind of high earning big cheese to own a fucking house is ridiculous brainwashing brought in post-ww2.

>>50575405
just make it so foreigners cant buy houses and use some emanate domain nonsense to take the houses they currently own and reallocate them to workers. However every last aspect of the government is a grift to rob taxpayers. So why would anything good ever happen?

>>50575405
Blocking developers from building affordable housing because my property values is totally free market. Houses costing multiple times what they are worth because everyone wants money for doing nothing by charging rent, and they think they aren't the parasites.

>>50575405
burger flippers, janitors and assembly line workers etc. could afford homes back then
Im not a commie but things really have gotten out of control

>>50575405
my dad bought a house while flipping burgers

A burger flipper is no different to a medieval peasant, and i'm pretty sure the lords of the land didn't cuck peasants as much as corporations and government cuck burger flippers.

>>50575636
To be fair the main problem is that the population on earth has grown way too high in the past decades.
Remove 2/3 of the people on earth and having a small house is nothing special anymore...

>>50575665
>Blocking developers from building affordable housing because my property values is totally free market
Fuck the goverment
>everyone wants money for doing nothing by charging rent
Based, embrace neet. buy and and rent out a house

>>50575405
>Kike are le bad because they own all le money and have sex with underage girls
>I will be a le kangz in 2 weeks after this world ends and I will have le sex with questionable underage girls

>>50575405
This is why Chyna will win

>>50575691
Peasants built their own houses.

>>50575405
i make six figures a year in one of the most jewish professions imaginable (accounting) at one of the largest and most jewish companies on the stock market and i still think capitalism is a jewish scam

>>50575720
you do realise that these "homes" in china are mostly Tofu Dreg residential towers that never get finished or fall apart after 2 years

>>50575714
Oh look, a libshit projecting his pedophilic feelings on his political enemies

>>50575703
blame the industrial revolution. But what can we do about it? I dont think ted had the answers. He had the the correct diagnosis on the cause. But thinking that people will simply return to monke is wish fufillment. I guess waiting it out is the only option because at this point all of the problems caused by industrial society are unsolvable until it breaks down which could take hundreds if not thousands of years.

>>50575770
"ghost cities in china" is a meme.

>>50575723
The government doesn't let you build on their land. medieval lords are less tyrannical.

>>50575770
Massive cope

>>50575770
Ok, where is MY tofu dreg residential tower?

How come only niggers can get section 8?

>>50575720
If you noticed, the top countries are where families live in the same house for generations. Unlike america where at 18 you already are out of your home

>>50575772
wdym? This is just what /pol/ shiny rock fags think.

>>50575405
I would take Mao over Trump any day and I'm king of the racists.
Internet communists are faggots though.

>>50575926
>having sex with prime pussy is le bad

>>50576038
yeah yeah bunkertroon.

>>50576038
You my friend will be working a coal mine.

>>50576167
>>50575772
Kek this is why nobody takes /pol/niggers seriously.

>>50575552
This

>>50575926
what do you mean? Pedophillia is only widespread among leftoids, as for your image, nothing to do with /pol/

>>50575509
Notice he has to carry a faggot on his back?

>>50576214
>bunkertranny gaslighting
no one uses basedjaks anymore. tell your troon friends to make better memes

>>50575405
>You want to create societal conditions that price me out of owning a home and starting a family?

>Fine, I'll be a criminal.

>>50576226
>as for your image, nothing to do with /pol/
>He is such a newfag that he doesn't even know that all pmg trannies are /pol/cels.

>>50576214
/qa/ lost, welcome to /pol/ aka fascist central and home to 4chan.

>>50576214
Oh look, another libshit projecting his petty culture wars in anonymous image board on his political enemies

>>50576243

>>50576263
>projection continues
topkek

>>50575405
i dont feel like im owed a house i just feel like its absolutely retarded that im expected to borrow $250k just to "buy" one

I'm not sure about houses but the government should be building massive 100 story tall commieblocks and giving away flats to young people

>>50576294
nobody is forcing you to borrow, you're just too poor to buy one with your own capital

>>50576266
/pol/ is a containment board for r*ddit refugees.

>>50576268
That some heavy projection there, anon

>>50576312
thanks shelkelstein i guess im just a bad goy for not having 300k in cash

>>50576314
/pol/ is 51% of this website's traffic and its' discussion permeates every single other board. 4chan is just /pol/ now. It's long overdue you accepted that and stopped crying. You're embarrassing yourself

>>50576314
>ladypede
LMAO. r women for real

>>50576266
/qa/ and its descendant basedjak party were and are /pol/ colonies like most 4chan boards.

/qa/ won

>>50576373
>/qa/, a /pol/ colony
>waah waah delete /pol/ naooo!!111
lol
lmao even

>>50576404
That was a tourist like you and ridiculed. All these troonjaks are /qa/party creations.

>>50575778
Invest in terraforming and long range low-carbon transportation methods. Not everyone needs to live on the coasts in megacities.

>>50576433
>All these troonjaks are /qa/party creations.
Same goes for all the chudjaks.

>>50575703
I don't give a fuck about the rest of the world, if Africans want to breed like rats and starve, that's their problem. I just want to reduce the population in MY country. Elect nationalists, stop all immigration, deport all non-whites, and shoot anyone trying to get in. Also ban usury and the people who use it to control society

The only chudjaks made on the party are ironic self-inserts. You recognize them because they are funny unlike your garbage. You subhumans never learn.

>>50575405
What am I paying taxes for if the government can't even provide us with the most basic necessities of living? I'm not talking about handing me the keys to a mansion and a Corvette, but fuck dude, if you work, you shouldn't have to worry about going to bed hungry or being one paycheck or a hospital bill away from being homeless on the streets. Instead of blowing more money on an aircraft carrier that nobody asked for, how about using that money for basic services?

>>50576433
>It was just one tourist... BECAUSE I SAY SO OK????
yuh huh

kek so much seethe.

>kek so mu-ACK!

>>50576513
Yup. You're legit frothing at the mouth at this point lmao

>civil society has given me a house
>everyone wants their own house
>i till the land, it's honest work
>yeah i love currency! wanna trade wampum?

>>50576541

>>50576541
So what about this /pol/, is it in the thread with us right now? You want to deny every 4chan board is /pol/ but you also dump your anti-/pol/ damage control folder at the slightest hint of /pol/ presence.

>>50576549
>>50576567

>>50576647

>>50576681

>>50575405
A house was a given until 200 years ago. You would just pick some land a put a house up. But the jews have successfully created a servile class made up of mud skinned humans who will serve as cheap labor and will never earn enough to own a meaningful amount of assets, forever doomed to wage slavery and easily culled when AI/machines are capable of fulfilling most jobs. There is no hope left, they have won so all that's left to do is leech off the system in the hope it implodes under the weight of the strain or until they start culling us en mass. We truly live in the darkest of times.

>>50576702
>an Italian talking about non-whites
LOL

>>50576702

>>50576916
Good that you get it. Left wing extremism and right wing extremism are the same pathetic incels. Normal healthy people don't get high on their own supply when shilling fake ideologies.
Literally every mass shooter, both leftist and right wing looks the same. These people have no real identity and depending on who gets to them first they'll blindly believe in some ridiculous cause for a couple years before growing out of it.

>>50576996
>Good that you get it. Left wing extremism and right wing extremism are the sam
>-ACK

>>50576454
such vague advice anon. Give me specifics.

>>50575729
OK commie
you will NEVER be a woman

>>50577040

>>50577107
The left can't meme, just steal memes and add essays to them

>>50575636
the difference is though that most people throughout history were self employed, lived outside of the city, and didn't conform to whatever building codes the local goblin happened to shit out. You can still afford a house in the country as a entrepreneur pretty easy, about 150k in fact. The problem is these urban bugmen want to live the high life like their hollywood tv shows when they not only do not possess the skills to even build a house (which historically most people did) they don't even have the skills to make it in a modern economy. Thats why they're working as wagies performing bullshit "service" jobs like being a waiter which is essentially useless and just charade the higher classes put them through to make them perceive some sort of bottleneck for their earnings when in fact it was charity all along. Like a parent requiring their children to do chores to receive an allowance.

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>>50575405
yea

>>50576294
>>50576356
You're not expected to do anything. You can rent, move in with relatives, relocate, or do something else.

>>50575673
yea and we had capitalism back then thats where we need to go back to

>>50577107

>>50577152
>muh heckin based and cheap rural towns
i grew up in a town of 500 people in northeastern PA. housing is still expensive relative to what income you could make up there. also the region is an economically depressed shithole that's experiencing massive brain drain because anyone with an IQ >85 gets the fuck out ASAP. keep coping.

>>50576511
>What am I paying taxes for
National defense, infrastructure, etc.

>>50577153

>>50575552
This basically

What u don't know is our taxes don't pay for anything but the national debt.
They have to borrow from Shekelson Bank to keep it all a float.
The money used to be based on debt but that hasn't been true since the 90's.

You work while niggers breed roasties and politicians import Mexican neets.
The money doesn't matter only the labor which the American white male is beaten like slave Jannie to support the rest who are promoted to the top

a menial wage worker should be able to own a home and provide for a family on his wage. debate me.

>>50576729
>A house was a given until 200 years ago. You would just pick some land a put a house up.
Wrong. Stop playing video games and read a book.
Wars have been fought over land for ages. Nobody ever "just picked some land" you stupid child.

>>50577185
>>50577212
Ok I had my fun with you /pol/niggers I will go to sleep now knowing that you will be never white.

>>50577253
>Ok I had my fun with you /pol/niggers I will go to sleep now knowing that you will be never white.
>go to sleep

>>50575673
No, they lived in tenements and flop houses. Modern apartments are a vast improvement.
If you want a house, work for it.

>>50577237
>should be able to own a house
Are you volunteering to pay for it?

Society owes me fit white virgin pussy

>>50577291
with sound monetary and fiscal policy neither you nor i would have to.

The fact that our socialist western countries are failing and capitalism gets the blame is amazing

>>50577339
good goy, you learn very quickly. clearly the answer to all of these problems is even less oversight on jewish capital.

the government LITERALLY owes me a house because not only are they in debt to ME, they've been taxing me and wasting it on niggers and ukrainians. i am LITERALLY entitled to a house and the land it sits upon

>>50577244
Kek, ok goy, you believe that. It's not like the entire founding of the US, South America, Australia etc wasn't just white people riding in and taking what they wanted when they wanted it. Even in the UK where royalty and lords owned the majority of the land people were throwing up houses for their kids next to their own without anyone's permission up until about 200 years ago. Your belief that the savages offered up any meaningful resistance in the form of "wars" exposes you as a mudskin goyslave. Wars were mainly for resources in Europe faggot and a home wasn't on the list of anyone's worries. Even farmers put up and gave houses to their workers so people would stick around and do work. It's only in modern times a lack of house is a problem. You can thank regulation, globalism and redtape for that

>>50575405
i'm entitled to my own fucking money that's taken by force with taxes & inflation
>but muh roads
niggerbrain stfu

>>50577577
>YOU BETTER WATCH OUT OR IM GONNA CONQUER SOME LAND
Try getting a job first.

>>50575636
Poland is fully white and it's impossible to get a house in Prague

>>50577639
Holy cope. I accept your concession shitskin. Count your lucky stars the brits were kind masters and didn't purge your kind for sport.

>>50575405
>Affordable housing is communism
Are you for real?

>>50577684
>Affordable
Another meaningless SJW buzzword

>>50577684
the irony being the lack of affordable anything will push people into some form of neo-communism. and it will be shit. but what do they expect people to do, just lie down and die lmao?

>>50577684
Libertardians subhumans genuinely believe this yes
They’re even worse than socialists since they gatekeep the right and keep whites from acting in their own interests

>>50577734
He just can't stop boot licking for his overlords. Stockholm syndrome is strong in this one.

>Are you for real?

>>50577737
The inevitable conclusion to the state of the west is widespread civil war. We are seeing the start of it in some countries (Netherlands farmers for example). The question is will the elite garner enough power and resources to secure their position before it happens?

>>50575405
People did actually get free housing in Soviet Union you know. Everyone also had to work of course but your job was provided to you. In peak Soviet times it was actually decent housing, horrible commie blocks only came later.

>>50577756
ok bunkertranny

>>50575720
yes i will inherit my parents house
yes i will find a woman to marry me and live there
no i will never wear a condom
yes i will have 5+ kids
yes i will be rich from programming WFH

Seethe

>>50577657
You don't learn economics browsing pol

>>50577734
Bait.

>>50577657
What are you on about, it's full of immigrants from places like Ukraine. Their color isn't exactly relevant

>>50577984
I was responding to a racist

>>50577984
Kys subhuman race is not “skin colour”

>>50577657
>poland
>prague

Anyone wondering why you'll own nothing (house included) and be happy see picrel. You're bred to be a servile class of humans, not to be owners of assets and masters of your own destiny. Housing the population a couple hundred years ago was a lot easier than housing the billions seen today and it was in the best interest of everyone during those times. Each human was vastly more valuable and less replaceable than they are today and places would live or die by their ability to retain people living in those areas. There is no incentive for those who control the means of production to keep you happy or set a path for a better life. You are by design expendable, replaceable and if you step outside the boundaries of the system you will be stopped. This will only get worse over time as shitskins are imported into countries to prop up population figures (as they are akin to farm animals which will breed no matter the conditions they exist within) in order to keep the ponzi running until everyone can be replaced by AI. UBI is the next step to look out for and the last stage that the masses will exist in the numbers they do now. This will force complete reliance upon a system that is hostile towards you and is essentially the victory lap of those who own the means of production. If civil wars do not happen before UBI is implemented you have already missed the opportunity to make things better.

>>50578019
Ukrainians and Polacks are the same race

>>50575636
>t. Teenager
There is no "white society" in the dark ages or even now, otherwise Ukraine wouldn't gun down its own fleeing civilians.

Everyone in the dark ages era were 85 IQ peasants who couldn't into plumbing and irrigation.
Rome was the peak until the dark ages happened.
We're lucky we live in a falling Rome rather then a prosperous dark age.

>>50577981
>anything I can't argue against is bait!
"Affordable" to whom, faggot? People who have decent jobs have no problem
buying houses. Housing is already affordable for those who matter.
The only ones seething are the nigger hordes and art student millennials left behind, and you want to give them even MORE handouts.

>>50578140
15-20x yearly median wage isn't affordable. A generation ago this was 2-5x yearly. Living with parents during your early 20's and working in a factory would allow you ownership of a home before your 30's. This is impossible in the current day.

>>50578132
Legit everything in your post is wrong lmao
Love when dipshits start using Rome and the “dark ages” in their terrible posts. Immediately outs them as low IQ.

>>50578140
>>50578140
You also talk about muh handouts etc.. The rich have been getting UBI for the past 14 years in the form of 0.1% loans (it's still 0% in real terms even after hikes). They have used this to own every single asset they can get a hold of and to price you out.

>>50577152
You're missing the mark.
The goal the Lord's have for society isn't to keep wagies living paycheck to paycheck like a slave jannie, it's to take away all their power which is the only thing we have;
Worker Strikes.

With UBI and automation supported by a new monitary system, wagies don't need jobs anymore. You now rely on premium gov handouts.

This goal is for ALL jobs, but that will take 50yrs as not everything can be easily automated but it almost all will eventually.

Welcome to the new dark ages my dude.
Ted was right about everything and he had no inside information

>>50578164
>median wage
You know who makes median wage? Khloe the SJW barista and Jamal the Doordash driver.
>This is impossible in the current day.
Only if you're worthless to society.

>give up a majority of your free time for the next 40 years
Ok, do I get a decent home and a decent life in exchange?
>no, you will own nothing and you will be happy
Eat a dick, if society wants me to work then it DOES owe me a fucking house or I'm not doing jack shit. I'm sorry, it's just that, I won't work if I don't get a decent life!

>>50578211
>>50578213
Go back to where you came from, dumb commies.

>>50578228
I guess I'm a nigger then haha! Oh well, more wonderful, easy jobs for you!!!!!

>>50578228
So you think it's acceptable that society works in a way where 50% of the population is priced out of assets? Previous generation would of had their masters heads on pikes if this was the case during their times (and did). You really are a good goy aren't you?

>>50578251
Why are the rich allowed free money and by extension free assets and why should everyone else pay the price for it?

>>50578085
>Each human was vastly more valuable and less replaceable than they are today
Really is the exact opposite. In the past people had large families and so the attention and care paid to children was substantially less. Or you also have farmers having tons of children to get free labor to slave away on their farms.
Today in developed countries people have smaller families and invest way more in their children.

>>50577107
If you really want to troll poltards just tell the truth;
Marx was right
Ukraine is evil (Russia's good guy)
Capatilism is worse then communism
People would still hate Hitler after knowing the truth (he's fun police)
Anglos and Jews are bad news

You don't even need to touch trannies

>>50575720
>communist and former communist countries having the highest rate of home ownership by far
can someone explain...?

>>50575405
>Give me free shit
Yes

>>50578268
>50% of the population is priced out of assets
Most of the population is "priced out" of Lambos and yachts. Go have a sit-in about it.

>>50578140
Affordable to the average American. Why is this making you seethe so much? This should be a nonpartisan issue. Why does the idea of other people being able to afford a place to live bother you so much? Fucking weirdo.
Maybe im off the mark and there still are affordable homes available in places in the U.S, but seems to me like everything is more and more expensive. I'd be fine with not owning a home for awhile if rent weren't half or more of my paycheck.

>>50578085
Look in to the fertilizer shortage

>>50577577
Your shabbos are literally owned by bankers.
Bank of England own the UK and your Royal Whore family.
Rothschilds were masters of England and France in the 1800's making them the most powerful family in the world for an entire century
>If my husband wants no war, there will none

To praise your shabbos who sold their fellow white man to these Jews is just silly.
Even today your white man (every race too) are busy selling their own to the highest bidder

>>50578393
The "average American" is a dumb nigger or a Mexican illegal with a dozen kids.
If you want them to own houses so badly, pay for it yourself.

>>50575405
If you want a house that badly just go out and build one. Who's stopping you?

>>50578251
Go back to pol you Jewish slave. Give the JIDF something to do kek.

I've literally given you the answer and you're too stubborn to see it.
People would kill for this answer.
They would spend millions of hours browsing conspiracy websites just to find out a glimmer of what I just shared, and even that would be riddled with lizard people Ayy Lmao's, etc etc.

Appreciate what you have nigger because not everyone will waste their time with you

Immigrants didn't steal your house, you're just really poor and don't work hard enough

also, america is a failed capitalist shithole, and trump lost, keep crying chuds and screeching liberals

>>50578426
Ughhhhh, I KNOW, I know!!!! It's just that, ughhhhhh, I'm not going back to work unless I get paid!!!!

>>50578349
Kek
Marx critique of the system was bang on, but his solution was not

>>50578426
Kek why do you like everything to be expensive This some kind of masochistic thing?

>>50575509
Evola is so based. I wished people like him were in charge vs globohomo Jews

>>50575703
A rising population should make things better if every new human contributes a net positive to society

>>50575405
People gotta live somewhere. Not mansions or spacious 10 bed, 12bath luxury homes, or whatever, but if people have nowhere to live, they can't work, and if they can't work, it doesn't matter if they flip burgers or run nuclear plants.

The housing crisis is something caused entirely by poor government planning and out of control banker faggotry. It shouldn't even be a concern, but now it's so out of control that the average person, even one with a real job, is forced to forgo home ownership, while everyone else who does take on that debt will be financially crippled for life and unable to pass along that property generationally, leaving future generations even more poor and homeless than the current one.

>>50578333
Under Communism if you served in any capacity you're usually given housing

Most Russians for example have both an apartment and a Dacha(Summer house) from the soviet union

>>50578760
this makes the mutt capitalist seethe

>>50577208
For Israel, yes.