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50553064 No.50553064 [Reply] [Original]

Would Bitcoin be considered a scam if Monero had been made first?

>> No.50553119

I think the fact that bitcoin was a public ledger is what led people to trust it more so than Monero. If it wasn't public like Monero, I think people would have not used it. XMR has it place after

>> No.50553156

>>50553064
Marry left, Fuck right

>> No.50553778

the problem is monero couldn't have been made first, it's a fork of bytecoin
and bytecoin only exists because of bitcoin

which is why bitcoin has already won

>> No.50554054

>>50553778
Linux is a fork of Unix and you can see which one won in the end

>> No.50554186

>>50553064
Buttcorn is most obvious scam when you just look at its dead hardforks

>> No.50554353

>>50553156
You wouldnt be saying that if you saw a side profile comparison

>> No.50554379

>marry right
>fuck right
>buy ETH and MATIC

>> No.50554406

>infinite supply

>> No.50554473
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50554473

>>50553064
why are their heads shaped like this? Is that why theyre so smart do they got extra big brains or what

>> No.50554526
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50554526

I just wanna make it and marry a beautiful Amazon who ties me up and makes me tell her the truth at night.

>> No.50554620
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>>50554473
> posts a shopped pick and then asks a retarded question trying to be funny
fling yourself off a bridge cretin

>> No.50554655

>>50553119
Agree 100%

>> No.50554711
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50554711

>>50553064
Bitcoin is hard money, monero is private money
We need both

>> No.50554769
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50554769

got a new 3d model for blender of Gal Gadot
im going to make some horsecock related content with her if you know what i mean

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>>50554353
I have a weird attraction to jewish female faces. I want to lick their noses while I fuck them.

>> No.50555421

>>50553064
BTC used to be 'monero' before all the analysis tools came into the picture. It's an 'open ledger' but early on there were basically no way to effectively track what was happening unless you were some ascended computer geek.

>> No.50555856

>>50554406
>>infinite supply
slava ukraini nigger, Am I right?>>50555421
>BTC used to be 'monero' before all the analysis tools came into the picture. It's an 'open ledger' but early on there were basically no way to effectively track what was happening unless you were some ascended computer geek
this. monero is the chosen coin

>> No.50555907

>>50554620
her head still looks weird

>> No.50556062
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>>50554711
>Bitcoin is hard money
Incorrect. Bitcoin lacks fungibility, therefore it will never be sound money or currency due to that missing innate property.

>> No.50556082

>>50555269
have you ever dated one? They are monsters, anon.

>> No.50556204

>>50556082
>They are monsters
In what sense?
They can fight my dick. That's a bigger monster!

>> No.50556710

>>50556062
Untainted Bitcoin is fungible.
I know this is hard to wrap your mind around when you’re used to think about things from an uncompromising privacy perspective, but for rich people who want a store of value their Bitcoin will remain fungible and that’s good enough. Bitcoin that becomes tainted from illicit activities are essentially no different from Bitcoin that is lost to sending to an unused address or where the key holder dies - it just makes the remaining Bitcoin more valuable.

>> No.50556798

>>50556204
they cut their thighs, pluck hair out, guaranteed to be prescribed at least Xanax, ect

>> No.50557093

>>50556710
>Untainted Bitcoin is fungible.
No it isn't.
>it just makes the remaining Bitcoin more valuable.
Nice cope for what is an inherent flaw that makes Bitcoin atrocious at being digital cash.

>> No.50557094

>>50556798
Dated an Israeli chick. She was on Clonazepam and Adderall lol

>> No.50557750

>>50554054
unix failed because of its licensing
linux was free and open source

unfortunately for bytecoin, bitcoin was created half a decade earlier and was good enough from day zero. and that says nothing for monero, which itself is just a shadily launched fork of the above.

>> No.50557778

>>50555421
>before all the analysis tools came into the picture

>he still thinks monero doesn't have analysis tools

>> No.50557799

>>50557093
if this is your argument, hopefully you don't hold monero, because for the grand total of a few thousand dollars a month, monero's utxo set is just as public as bitcoin's.

>> No.50557831
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50557831

Nope xmr /pol/tards would still seethe 24/7 about bitcoin while being over 90 % down against it. Seethe, seethe xmr tards you will always be worthless baggies ahahhahahahahahha.

>> No.50557947

>>50553156
She would make your children jewish.

>> No.50558179

>>50557778
Im pretty sure the 'analysis tools' for monero is like half-assed attempts at predicting where the transaction went and relies on transfers in or out of exchanges, and it's not close to the stuff ran on open ledgers that just gather raw data and read it. And if you're a hyper paranoid nigger you probably bounce things around the network just to be safe. Doubt that is traceable.

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>>50556710
Incorrect again, all of it.
Since Bitcoin is an open ledger, every transaction is permanently recorded in the blockchain and every coin can be traced back to its point of origin. For the reasons aforementioned, btc can never be fungible (interchangeable) thus it cannot be money or currency. See the picture to understand just how much information you publicly display when making a transaction. It's even less private than banks, which is quite laughable. Anyone can see how much you own and where you spend it on. If you are associated with something the government does not like, you will be blacklisted and/or censored. Sure you can still transact, but that doesn't stop them from putting you in jail.
Bitcoin has been blacklisted and censored many times, for example see the Canadian truckers. This will continue to happen due to its nature. It is inevitable. Even mixers are censoring transactions to stay compliant.

For comparison — every bitcoin is akin to a dollar bill, expect that dollar bill not only has every information in the image, but also all transactions included until it was originally mined. Now go ahead and try to defend this ridiculousness.

>> No.50558805

>>50557799
Not only has that been disproven, it is also idiotic of you to not be educated on it and still commenting. You can never provide solid evidence of these foolish claims.
>inb4 they can trace it they just won't tell you

>> No.50558921

>>50553064
The second one is prettier but the first one looks like she genuinely enjoys being raped more.

>> No.50559358

>>50554054
OS X

>> No.50559384

>>50553156
Kill left fuck right marry my right hand

>> No.50559494

>>50558179
they use the equally successful method that tracking on things like grin do. when fees are kept dangerously low, like they are on monero, it costs you comparatively nothing to send millions of tx a month and get such a high statistical view on the utxo set that you can effectively trace transactions from source to sink.

>> No.50559512

>>50558805
>disproven
i'd like to see anyone try to explain away why having a fee of close to zero and a privacy scheme fully reliant on high enough transaction fees can maintain privacy.

>> No.50559521

>>50557947
noice

>> No.50559555

>>50556204
they are two-faced demons. they act nice in front of you but will stab you in the back without a second thought.

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>>50559494
>>50559512
First of all the privacy models of MW and Monero are fundamentally different and even the article below explains further, thought it has outdated ring sizes.
https://scribe.rip/dragonfly-research/breaking-mimblewimble-privacy-model-84bcd67bfe52

For Mimblewimble, from said article:
>Using only $60/week of AWS spend, I was able to uncover the exact addresses of senders and recipients for 96% Grin transactions in real time.
>The problem is inherent to Mimblewimble, and I don’t believe there’s a way to fix it.

Now, with Monero growing both in transactions and ring sizes, dust attacks are less and less possible. Even with fake decoys you would need to control at least 65% of recent UTXOs just to start seeing any effects, and that is quite frankly fiction at this point. The guys are over at the MRL have already looked into it several times over the years, seriously feel free to ask them. Dust attacks *were* a problem just in the early days of Monero but even then I haven't heard anyone actually went through with it.

You're literally comparing apples with oranges.

>> No.50560205

>>50558921
Bitcoin is getting fucked!

>> No.50560215

>>50553156
it's two retards in marvel shit cosplay. absolute cancer

>> No.50561315
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>>50556710
>Untainted Bitcoin is fungible.
The fact that you have to distinguish a particular type as "untainted" itself means that it isn't fungible.

>> No.50561514

>>50561315
If you bid 10 untainted Bitcoin for my house and the other guy bids 11 untainted Bitcoin, he’s getting the house because there’s no difference between your Bitcoin and his. If you offer one Picasso painting and he offers ten paintings he made himself, you’re getting the house.

>> No.50561545

>>50557799
>because for the grand total of a few thousand dollars a month
that's not how that works retard
>he doesn't know about dynamic block size fee penalties
kys retard

>> No.50561559

>>50557831
Monero has literally outperformed the entire market since the beginning of the bear market.

>> No.50561573

>>50553064
how am I even supposed to interpret the picture, you nincompoop?

>> No.50561611

>>50553064
no because it fits more transactions in a lower blocksize

>> No.50561638
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50561638

>>50553064
MOGGED

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>>50561514
Fungible means 1btc = 1btc = 1btc

You have already admitted this is not the case.

The definition of "tainted" can change retroactively, and you can suddenly be left holding a bag of now tainted coins because your social credit score is too low.

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50561689

>>50561514
>If I have 10 factory new, unstolen Ford Mustangs I can get the same price for them
>Therefore Ford Mustangs are a fungible car

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>>50561514
That is not a refutal and his point factually correct. Again, if you HAVE to make a distinction, it's not fucking fungible. Therefore it's not a real currency. It's an NFT.

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>> No.50561714

>>50554473
>>50554620
jews are literal demons

>> No.50561816
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50561816

>>50561638
White vs jewish
The difference is self-evident and undeniable.

>> No.50561888

>>50561661
1 untainted btc == 1 untainted btc != 1 tainted btc

>> No.50561889

>>50561816
I've seen pretty Jewish girls. The problem is that Gal Gadot just isn't very attractive and was a terrible choice for Wonder Woman. Like even just among Jewish women you could find way more fitting actresses.

>> No.50562005

>>50561888
yeah, see that != part there? that means the currency isn't fungible.

>> No.50562034

>>50561816
>>50561714
I love bear /biz/. Once all the redditors and jeets are gone we get back to comfy rampant racism and sexism.

>> No.50562703

>>50561705
based

>> No.50563200

>>50553064
no monero would always be considered kike shit while the PRISTINE KAPITAL of bitcoin would reign

>> No.50563617

>>50553064
fuck both sluts with my bbtcs big bitcoin stack

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>>50562034
maybe bull runs are bad, too many normies join the site, sour market creates good moments, sad that it has to be this way

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>>50562034
We go back to the TRUTH.

>> No.50566008

>>50564624
That's a man.

>> No.50566188

>>50563200
No one considers Monero that now dummy.

>> No.50566202

>>50559521
>nice
found the pedo

>> No.50566338

>>50553156
Fuck both, marriage is a scam.

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>>50553064
If Monero came first, it would never get global adoption since it will only be used for drugs and illicit deals.
Bitcoin could gain better trust since it has a public ledger.

>>50554054
Based. QANplatform launched the QVM that has a linux terminal and allows you to code in any language you want. Many devs are already checking it out. I think it could over take EVM, since EVM has only Solidity, meanwhile QVM has all the languages including solidity through EVM compatibility.

>> No.50566574

>>50553119
fpbp

>> No.50566721

>>50561889
those attractive jews you speak of are majority white anyway.

>> No.50567390

>>50566552
fuck global adoption, the world is gay and brown anyways.

>> No.50567587

>>50566721
>are majority white anyway.
Like basically all Ashekenazi Jews are. None of them originate from the Levant. Their entire history is a multi-century LARP.

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>>50553064
What exactly has monero done besides privacy? That feature is becoming vaporware. Perhaps multichain and data solutions will wake it from slumber. Watching Geeq and others deal with it.

>> No.50567684

>>50561559
God save me from plebs. Have you looked around? You must have been taking a nice slumber while the space was evolving.

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>>50561889
Exceptions do not disprove the rule.
For example the other actress anon posted is much more fitting for the role.
>>50562034
It's not "racism", it's pattern recognition.

>> No.50567854

>>50563200
Will it tho anon? The developments are saying something different. If not monero then another one. That'd be fun to watch.

>> No.50567870

>>50566552
Quantum will do nothing for the blockchain space desu. Speak multichain and I'll listen. That area needs to be explored and geeq is just one. More wouldn't hurt.

>> No.50567969

>>50554620
God I love that big nose

>> No.50568309
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>>50567660
Multichain platforms are going mainstream and taking utility to a wider network of users. I have high expectations for Railgun which is multichain and integrates with Defi to grant privacy on assets and transactions.

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50568858

>>50553156
>Marry
Ngmi

>> No.50568978

>>50567969
I don't

>>50568858
Who's she

>> No.50569235

>>50561689
LLEEEEEEEEEEEET ME DO ITT!

>> No.50569289

>>50564624
shut up you potato nigger

>> No.50569728
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50569728

>>50553064
Damn the body double girl (Caitlin Burles) is cute af.
I never understood why they picked Gal Gadot, she's ugly af

>>50568858
>>50568978
Image search says Sabrina Nichole

>> No.50569839
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50569839

Gal Gadot is a goddess.

>Participants rated attractiveness of a series of female images varying in fatness (BMI) and waist to hip ratio (WHR). There was an inverse linear relationship between physical attractiveness and body fatness or BMI in all populations. Lower body fat was more attractive, down to at least BMI = 19. WHR was a significant independent but less important factor.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4556148/

>Observers chose a lower fat mass to optimise the attractive appearance. This suggests that the previously observed phenomenon of preferring lower female body size for attractive than healthy appearance is driven by preference for lower fat mass. The amount of fat chosen to optimise the healthy and attractive appearance of female bodies in this study fell significantly below the established healthy range (21–33% for young Caucasian women). This is in agreement with previous studies on healthy and attractive BMI, which also placed attractive and healthy-looking female body mass below or at the very bottom of the physiologically healthy range.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4892674/

>Both sexes preferred underweight women (body mass index = 17.3). These represent preferences for unhealthy body mass. Furthermore, body mass index proved twice as important for attractiveness as waist–hip ratio.
https://academic.oup.com/beheco/article/24/4/914/219755

>Attractiveness ratings were significantly explained by body-mass index. Body-mass index accounted for 73.5% of variance, whereas waist/hip ratio accounted for only 1.8%. Further analyses included other body-shape dimensions, including waist/bust ratio (upper-bodyshape), bust/hip ratio (degree to which the body has “hour-glass” shape), and the leg length/torso length ratio. None of these contributed significantly to attractiveness ratings more than body-mass index.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13569468_Optimum_body-mass_index_and_maximum_sexual_attractiveness

>> No.50570104

>>50569839
She's a 7/0 face on a square yenta body. She is meh. The only jew who does it for me is Natalie Portman a d only because she is barely jewish.

>> No.50571051
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50571051

>>50562034
Nazis get punched

>> No.50571213

>>50554711
You're right anon. Privacy is important in crypto as well and good thing we have the likes of Monero for transactions. My attention has been taken by Railgun which enables privacy on defi protocols and smart contracts.

>> No.50571284

>>50554711
Privacy is based anon. I've seen good innovation in protocols like Railgun which delivers privacy on defi and smart contracts.

>> No.50571303

>>50567969
You don't mean it

>> No.50571341

>>50571051
>only nazis can be racist and sexist
Ohhh jewww

>> No.50572876

>>50563200
Privacy solutions play an important role in the crypto space anon. There's no way they would ever be considered worthless.

>> No.50573403

>>50561705
Jew skull fears the angel skull
For Physical beauty is the Apex asset

>> No.50574505

>>50556710
>Untainted Bitcoin is fungible.
you can't practically isolate untainted bitcoin (without literal 6-7 figures in mining hardware lmfao) so why even bring it up as an example?
the spirit of old bitcoin alive within monero -- bitcoin culture is literally just moonboy faggotry

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50574659

>>50553064
>IS THAT HECKIN' WONDER WOMAN?!

>> No.50575596

>>50554379
Based plan anon. I've got a stash of ETH and MATIC. I also went in on some metaverse assets like MANA, ICON, AXS and THETA for the long run.

>> No.50576435

Monero is a coin quite literally designed for criminal activity, though.

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>>50567870
Just wait until a quantum computer wreck your bag of meme coins.
geeq is actually cool, it just need some quantum resistant codes to spice it up.

>> No.50577480

>>50553064
If Thu TeLeFone wus invented be4 tha morse code then no one would care about tha telegramz.

> No shit

>> No.50579031

>>50567870
A lot of platforms are going multichain and I have my eyes on Railgun which is already live on several blockchains including Bsc and Eth.

>> No.50579258

>>50556204
just fucking don't
I had my fill of JAPS when I was younger
you think the average woman is mental? manipulative?
you have no fucking idea

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>>50553064
If xmr came first the state never would have allowed it.

>> No.50581287

>>50580752
You have a good point but as it stands now they can't get rid of privacy solutions in the space. Instead they would even gain more adoption with the regulations.