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the one you steal

fuel efficient car + tent + 5 blankets

>>50547744
fuck off Jamal

>>50547733
Car not needed

>>50547761
best spots to park your jar?

>>50547733
An RV

>>50547733
Unironically a tesla

>>50547733
You wanna get a medium size hatchback I had a vw gti that the back seats folded up and was a comfy sleeping spot although it didn't leave much storage room

>>50547733
I met a girl driving across the canada. She was in a Mazda 5. She's probably going to get raped and/or murdered but she was nice, spent the day with her walking/swimming in a provincial park.

MOG the competition

>>50547900
what the fuck is the market of this?
"Sir: we have to send a platoon to the desert and protect those 4 archaeologists"
"No no: the 4 archaeologists have to go themselves with a single vehicle"

"I know just the thing sir".

>>50547971
People who want to do month long expeditions in parts of the outback/africa/remote USA.
They sell in Aus for anywhere from $150k to $500k US and the market for them is pretty active.

>>50547776
Based jar dweller

>>50548004
waste of money and time
also I wonder if it even has enough fuel for that

>>50547733
Honda Element

>>50548030
>going on an epic adventureinto the wild is a waste of money and time
literally name one better use of your time lmao

>>50548062
going for a month is, by day 4 I'd be bored, by day 10 I'd be pic related.

>>50547733
pontiac aztec

>>50548117
By day 4 you'd realise you didn't care about checking your phone any more, and by day 10 you'd be completely at home in the routine and wondering why people ever cuck themselves by living in "civilisation"

>>50548134
>...he said as he shat out yesterdays MRE into the designated bucket. "Good enough" he thought as he wiped his hands afterwards on his jeans, having run out of potable water a week ago.

>>50547733
>sleep in car
aren't you guys worried about carbon monoxide poisoning? and where would you park the car at night?

>>50548192
I can do 10 days in my 4x4 which is less than a quarter of the size of this mog lmao

Scion xB or Chevy Van, maybe Toyota Previa

>>50548266
smirt yu

>>50547733
obviously a prius

>>50548134
>>50548257
Nigga, I'm from 1979. I know very well how to live without internet autism; I was even an early internet adopter; I was around during the creation of your cocaine.

>>50547733
Look up the prius hatchback "stealth camper" builds.
You can run AC inside while the engine is off and it has a battery sensor that automatically starts up the engine, and keeps it running just long enough to top up the battery, if the battery is running low.
Otherwise >>50547754 got it right.

Living in a car is really epic until it gets broken into while you sleep, until you get herded by cops in the middle of the night, until a triple digit heatwave, until a drunk driver hits you while you’re sleeping on the side of the road breaking your neck and turning you into a cripple. Other than that, I recommend a hatchback

>>50548305
>someone hears the engine turning off in the middle of the night
>looks outside and sees weird vehicle sitting there at all hours of the nights
>calls the cops

>>50547755
Are they wrong?

>>50547733
Old 80s-90s pickup with bed cap and fishing boat with trailer. Be at peace with yourself.

>>50547900
that shit is like 500k nigga

>>50547733
I almost did this once but the thought of not having anywhere reliably to shit/shower was just too much. That and fuel prices here are fucked.

I did a truck camper. Installed an AC unit to the roof. I have Starlink for RV as well. I've spent the last month camping for free near Michigan beaches.

>>50547733
Finally, a good thread. Even better is stealth camping and straight up hobo lifestyle though. The Jew fears the vagrant white man.

>>50548134
Its easy living anon, if you ever wiped your ass with a leaf you would know.

Don't choose the wrong leaf now,

heh maybe we should make a tp leaf index fund. What is the real value of a sheet of natural toilet paper

>>50548601
I'm soft because I crave regular bathing :(

Fortunately I think i could easily bum some showers of gyms and hotels.

>>50547733
A minivan. Toyota Sienna, Dodge Caravan, Honda Odessey. Super comfy to camp in.

>>50548342
>Cops come
>Knock on your window and wake you up
>You're white so they simply say "you can't stay here sir" and you apologize and drive off to park and sleep somewhere else a bit more incognito

>>50547971
Boomer Mountain Divison

Take the overland pill. Nobody to tell you to leave when you're in a place most vehicles can't get to

>>50548342
>Thinks "stealth mode" is parking in front of someone's house in the suburbs
That's your fault for being retarded

>>50547900
Needs more lug nuts

>>50548981
They do this regardless of your race.
t. A black man who's been homeless in his car before

>>50547733
the Outback works pretty well as a sleeper, but I wouldn’t want to live in a crouch

You can get a decent stealth van for less than 10k but if you can't afford it the next best thing is a Volvo V70 (2004+) which is reliable, super low fuel consumption and you can easily lie down back there.

so I didn't even realize you could live out of a car until TODAY. I mean my head is really racing with the possibilities, the places you can go and the people you can meet. And how can the whole world be slaving away unaware of this kind of lifestyle?? Is there a good beginner's guide to all this? I mean I don't even know if I can live off a diet of big macs and wendys baconators.

>>50547761
Based and Barrelpilled

>>50547733
ealy 00's subaru outback are really comfy, but honestly late 90s/early 00's minivans can be great. Just rip the back seats out and sell them for scrap

Mid sized or bigger Toyota Lexus Honda Acura https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v5D4-1ojypM

>>50548528
nice bro, ive got a 95 chevy with a topper and i will probably have to do something like this soon, the shed im living in well... ive been here for a while and the home owners wife is getting tired of having a schizo in their backyard

>>50547733
i heard ford caravan is great

>>50547733
>What is the best car to live and sleep out of?
Party bus
>Verification not required

>>50547900
You not going to get far w weight of that monster, better off making it a snow plow

>>50547733
Winnebago

>>50549452
classy

>>50547754
why a tent

>>50548528
starlink? as in internet? how effective is playing online vidya with that shit

Landlord here, stop talking about this. You VILL pay ze rent.

That said, get a hatchback but I can't recommend a Honda Fit (at least the late 2000s model). Shit keeps breaking, and if you're not a manlet you can't stretch out properly in the back without removing the front passenger seat entirely which I don't think is worth it. I think car-camping is a great idea if you're going to do a cross country road trip since hotels are mainly a scam. Sign up with Anytime fitness or any other 24-hour nationwide gym chain with showers and look up local areas where overnight parking/camping is legal (like visitor centers and walmart parking lots, etc) and you're good to go. Biggest problem at that point is eating healthy, don't binge on fast food.

>>50547733
A van. Ignore any truckolds or anyone telling you to get a car. You need a van like a conversion van

>>50549051
these saudis like to get together in the desert, plant their tents, then cook and chill for a day or two. seems pretty nice without fucking bugs annoying you like they would anywhere else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM7Y4BxIj1Q

>>50552280
I'm not a child so I don't play video games.

Latency isn't fantastic (typically around 40 ms) but I get 100 Mbps down anywhere.

>>50547744
Funny story, got car jacked at gun point by a nigger and a week later the cops found him living out of it with a mattress inside with a fake bill of sale. Picked that idiot right out of a line up and he took a plea deal.

>>50547733
god tier is a tour bus, so comfy even rich niggas love them

made it tier, prob a trailer? but it's not that mobile

the top tier is obviously an RV/camper but it's not stealth (but works if you literally go camping? off road a lot?)

excellent tier is a TALL work van (sprinter/promaster/transit) (if you make it stealth, otherwise it's shit tier)

great tier is a minivan (best stealth of all, cheap, great car performance, no headroom, but decent enough to fit critically important things.)

good-tier - econoline vans? theyre roomy but easily known as the creep vans. poor car performance and needs repairs constantly

meh tier is probably a pickup truck(lots of space, can probably be stealth, but seems like it attracts thieves)

low tier is a tesla (AC functionality is supposedly good, no room/expensive)

shit tier is a rando shitbox econocar (it's barely comfortable to even drive)


imo minivan is the most realistic choice for most people considering it. most people easily fit in the cargo area. and if you make money you need to shoot for a sprinter van and have it customized for hvac/bathroom/bed/power/stealth.

My 4runner has a full sized bed in it. Great for The Weekends but I tried living out of it for a week in a more urban area and it sucked. Everything you take for granted is something you actually have to plan and think about now.

>>50552844
is it good enough to download anime and browse 4chan? i dont really play online gaymes

>>50549051
what car is that?

>>50552837
same in UAE and around dubai. comfy. 0 women.

>>50547900
I'd buy that.

>>50547900
This or a landcruiser troopy. Based mog, it’s all in the name.

>>50548305
This is pretty cool

>>50550184
Unimogs are one of the best of road vehicles. On its lowest gear it moves four feet a minute and most have portal axles standard. They are incredibly capable off road.

>>50552844
checked

>>50553167
this

>>50553055
>>50549452
>>50549051
>>50548528
what happens if u need to piss and shit? piss in a jug and then what? same with wahsing ur hands? what if the tarp breaks and your hand runs thru mud valley and it just liquidated hard

>>50547733
has anyone took a van or something desert camping

>>50553555
Toyota Land Cruiser 100 series with some minor mods from a quick look. It could be a 105/lx but they are all pretty much the same.

>>50553555
Checked. Looks like a 90s land cruiser

>>50547733
unironically the Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited.

>>50547761
Based and Diogenespilled

>>50549272
there's a bunch of shit on youtube about it. it looks awesome, but i think it's a bit deceiving. most of the campers aren't really an abject poverty. they're either digital nomads making decent money. youtubers/influencers. or rich kids that are dipping their toe in for a few months. also the better builds are actually just businesses showing their work. they have a ton of expertise on construction, electrical work, etc. and make the vans to eventually sell them to rich cunts. then start the next build. and it seems the legit ones don't have the sexiest looking lives. they look like old hippies or crusty white people.

that said it still does look cool for sure. here's one of the grifters i was talking about. he makes custom vans and sells them when he finishes the builds. in my opinion he has the most practical and intelligent builds.
https://youtu.be/63VaJIXP874

>>50547733
tesla with camper mode on

>>50552397
I'm 6'4" and, in between dev jobs, spent 3 months living out of a Honda Fit, floating around different forests in Colorado, and just living in Denver for a bit. Built window covers like in the image, except black on one side. Used some sticky velcro on glass and shade to keep the windshield ones ups. Rear seats folded down, and front seat forward, I could lay fully flat, but only on an angle (L rear tire to R passenger seat), and only flat on my back, then. Again, I'm 6'4", though, too. I have not had anything on the fit break on me, with 76k miles on it, but also do my own maintenance and repair. Good gas mileage, easy to repair, and reliable maker, too. I think its a fine car for someone not 6'4" to live in.

>>50547825
she probably has a smelly ass

>>50553831
I’ve taken my outback to the desert and camped. Didn’t sleep in the car tho, I reserved that for mountain camping

>>50548305
The one time being over 6 feet works against me. I've taken naps in the back of my Prius a few times during big breaks in-between classes back when I was an off-campus student for school and it was way too small for me

where can you sleep in your car year-round without extreme heat or cold? i'm guessing central CA coast somewhere.

>>50547733
syntax and pattern analysis shows that OP also posted >>50538801

this is a demoralization shill working for a large concern

>>50547971
rich boomers who think that RVs are for pussies and posers... but are too pussy and poserish to really go camping.

>>50547900
>avoids rent by paying $1-2k/month in fuel
sweet

>>50548123
thia guy fucks. seriously the aztec is perfect

>>50548289
and now youre pissing your worthless life away being a whiny fag on a childrens cartoon forum. way to be, loser

>>50553046
If you are looking for something to live in full time a truck camper isn't it. It's just a cheap place to sleep without worry that doesn't require any setup.

The main benefit of the truck is that you can tow a RV/Boat/ATV with ease, and you can get to more remote off-road destinations that RVs/vans can't make it to.

Minivan. They're the most affordably priced car out there vs what you get, because they're stigmatized. And perfect for living in on the move.

>>50548117

This is where you get depicted as the soijak

>>50548117
He fucked that coconuts mouth

>>50553808
They are too heavy, you’re going to spend all your time digging it out, and mpg sucks.

Get a 90's Toyota landcruiser FJ80. I have a 1992 with 130k miles identical to picrel and am stealth homeless. Here's why i chose it:

>high roof height
>2 removabale back rows of seats, many blow up mattresses are available to fit this space perfectly or enough ceiling to build storage beneath the bed area.

>rear camper slider windows that are operable without turning the vehicle on, enabling you to open / close windows without getting out of bed

>very large sunroof that is handy for keeping the vehicles interior cool while you sleep (heat goes up anon) that tilts up so you can still have it cracked open without worrying about rain.

> truck style tail gate + door the comes up giving you alot more space / a spot to attach a tailgate tent if you so choose. or you can sit on the tailgate and smoke while being protected from rain

>very large amount of interior space

>extremely comfy, amazing suspension

>people will assume your an overlanding chad and not homeless because its basically the holy grail over overlanding vehicles. People will want to buy this vehicle form you if in good shape.

>reliable as fuck. there is a reason these were heavily used for safaris in africa. this vehicle while gutless has a straight 6 that will outlast you and your entire family.

>extremely offroad capable. even stock this thing will take you anywhere you want to go. Fulltime 4wd with diff. lockers.

>this is gonna vary depending on where you live but my 1992 is 30 years old, which means i have collector plates in washington state. no more registration ever.

Only shitty part is bad gas mileage. But if you're homeless you probably don't drive that much anyway.

9.5/10, would buy again.

>>50547761
Made me lol.

>>50558401
>They are too heavy, you’re going to spend all your time digging it out, and mpg sucks.
Completely false.

The tires are so large they cut down to solid soild below and continue moving forward with their extremely low gearing. Their wading depth through water is unparalleled because of the intake position and tire height.

The mpg doesn't suck at all, certainly not for the size and potential GVM's. Its marginally worse than a 70 series landcruiser and they are often regarded as the best vehicle for remote area touring ever made. That is the reason you see people taking unimogs and landcruisers travelling across the world, because they are simply the best vehicles for it. The portal axels of the mog, simple design and large wheels let it go places other vehicles dream of. The unimog is a legitimately incredible feat of engineering. Portals, torque tubes, crawling and working group gearsets etc. IIRC the mog has the record for the highest altitude a car has ever been driven.

I understand on 4chan people don't wish to walk back a position and double down on their own, but to say a unimog isn't one of the best vehicles for travelling around the world is just daft. If you understanding of an 'overlanding' vehicle is some shitty jeep with a roof top tent and fridge in the boot for a 2 day trip driven over to camp from a town 40 minutes away, then you clearly have nil idea of what you are talking about with all respect.


>>50559524
Extremely based.

>>50547733
Subaru Forester if you are a poorfag

>>50557365
Hi Mav

>>50552844
40 ms is pretty good regardless

cool thread

>>50555749
>where can you sleep in your car year-round without extreme heat or cold? i'm guessing central CA coast somewhere.

the entirety of the west coast. That's why there are massive numbers of homeless people there. Never gets below freezing or close to it. Never gets much above 70 or 80 degrees

>>50560992
I figured. But it would have to be within 5 miles of the ocean if you don't want temps above 80

>>50552837
What's gonna happen once their oil money runs out? Shit. Future looks bleak for towelheads

>>50548237
I think you need a major fuck it attitude.
I always crack the window a touch for fresh air at night.
Im in the country currently and there are plenty of road side areas for sleeping.
In the city I guess parks are the best place. I like to move around and find half a dozen just so complaints are harder to police. Police haven’t been an issue, bogans turning up at midnight playing loud music sucks but a public place means no rights in this regards.
I think the mentality of being different and alone is the hard part. It’s not hard but you have to exit your vehicle and cook, clean bath etc and at times I just don’t want any attention. Karen’s are always looking to exert a power trip.

I need to effectively have all my necessities without a pile of crap.
I need a dc mini freezer type device.
I need to create an indoor clothes drying method.
I probably need to find a fitnfast type business for bathing etc but I will find a job first then do that.
I would like to save a much larger home deposit but is the reset going to cause mass unemployment and mass property foreclosure?
Car life is cramp but it’s better than a bad apartment building.

>>50561312
You don't need money to buy a house. USDA gives loans out for 0% and rates are 3%

>>50561380
Just to clarify its 0% down, just buy outside the cities

>>50552186
because you will be outside

>>50552837
comfy video

America:

>>50561400
I’m in the Chinese colony if Australia.
That mortgage rate is pretty sweet. Down here the longest we can set fixed interest rates is five years. Variable rates are 5-6%. The sleazy ways banks have to get money makes me sick. I think the neets might be right.

There is one sensible solution to the "van life"

>buy trailer/RV
>park it in front of your parent's house and HOPE you live in an area where nobody will get pissed that you're keeping a trailer/RV on the street for an extended period of time
>run an extension cable to your parent's house for power
>live "independently"
>go into your parent's house when you want to cook or take a shower.

>>50547733

one important requirement from what i've seen on youtube, is to be able to move from drivers seat to back and vice versa without going out of the door.

the Honda Element seemed like a good fuel efficient setup, until they discontinued it

https://www.insidehook.com/article/vehicles/honda-element-discounted-too-soon

>>50553863
>unironically the Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited.

if only they were more reliable, motors keep blowing out,

Now that Jeep Chrysler is owned by huge conglomerate Stellantis, I wonder if they will finally get the Jeep up to the 4Runner level of reliability

>>50547733
Probably a pedovan

>>50561380
>>50561400
wtf? redpill me on this now

>>50561312
you'll never dry your clothes in your car efficiently, better to have bags to store dirty clothes in and just go to a laundrymat once every few weeks. they also have clothes washer and driers in most big truck stops as well as showers

whats a legit youtube channel about living out of your car thats not run by roasties or zoomer trust fund kids?

>>50561380
>USDA
more info please anon

>>50547733
my girlfriend's father's car, is the best place I've ever fucked and thought about investments.
that's where I got the idea of memecoins as a qom because of all the hype about elon

>>50553845
Bingo
>>50559524
Based. The fj80 is probably the best land cruiser series but I love the extra horsepower and smoother ride in the 100. Picrel is the first thing I did on mine, always have the essentials ready to go and with a couple jerry cans I can stay away from civilization for days on end. They really are the ultimate freedom machines.

>>50547733
Prius was the meta for a long time. I guess a Tesla would be a straight upgrade if youre rich and stay in areas woth the infrastructure for it, but at that point why not get a camper van or a house

>>50562487
>>50562487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5B-9YiU5Ao

Steve Walls

this guy's channel is probably the best. Pro tip, use "Stealth camping" as search term instead of "van life" or something. This guy also does a lot of videos just camping in a tent as well. But he has some car camping ones like this as well

>>50553715
>t. faggot

>>50553961
>https://youtu.be/63VaJIXP874
that looks comfy, how much does it cost?

>>50547761
He loved doggos. Truly the greatest philosopher

It has hit a record high and who knows what is still gonna happen?
Even the fact that this is happening while the crypto world is dip in lows is another issue. But notwithstanding, My portfolio with keep increasing especially where Syscon is concerned, the bulls will return pretty soon.

>>50548039
Came here to say this. The Honda Element is the best car to live in by far. The seat go straight down into a bed. I bedded many a whore when I had one