/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50525281
>Launch date? clearly near the end of Q1 2023, if we are lucky."
Yes, by now this should be obvious to anyone. Jack Levin will likely be right on his launch date prediction. The rest of what you wrote about devs, pigs, lipstick and bad management seems like fanfiction cope though.

>>50525400
What was Jack Levins launch date prediction? I am never going to sell my positions, probably borrow against a small %.

Diamon hands are going to make it, I am glad I got in to both sacrifices.

based and schulerpilled

I sacrificed $300.
I need the money back.

>>50525543
Kek, wtf $300, and i bet your going to dump at the first 5-10x , when we can go 1000x up. NGMI brother, rethink the way your doing things. How is $300 hurting you, do you have mass debt?

>>50525467
>What was Jack Levins launch date prediction?
On Crypto Coffee's stream he said 2023 for Pulse launch and 1 cent for HEX bottom. I think he's right on Pulse, but whether HEX can hit 1 cent seems less likely to me unless BTC does another 50% dump from here.
>>50525613
$300 is just a meme

RH has been saying that the "highest of stakes" doc is done filming (important), and will be released in early '23. Why would he launch PLS before the documentary is out? Obviously the sole reason for the doc to exist is to hype the PLS launch. PLS will launch after, or at the same time, as the documentary drops.

Imagine PLS launching next month, and documentary coming 4 months after it, with no footage from the launch. Would make zero sense.

>>50525704
Thanks for the reply Anon. I see, I can wait. This bear cycle is only making me stronger and less of a degen. Who knows if BTC will still bottom out some more but its probably better that PLS is not out until that happens.

I sacced like $10k for pls what am i in for lads?

>>50525613
I have 24k or 25k rubic, $350 in dogebat.

Yes, if pulse makes x10 I will sell it, 3k dol is a lot of money in my country.

>>50525281

Source on RH getting rugged by his devs? It makes sense, but with the amount of fake news there's a need for sources for everything.

>>50525613
>when we can go 1000x up
Everyone tried to get in at the ground floor by sacrificing like 16 billion worth of assets so its marketcap will immediately shoot up at launch hindering % moves making 1000x gains incredibly unlikely.

Your not getting in at the ground floor if everyone is joining in with you.

>>50525400
>The rest of what you wrote about devs, pigs, lipstick and bad management seems like fanfiction cope though.

ya that's all bs. OP has no clue whats going on. all the devs singed NDAs

RH scammed all of you, your sacrifice money was used to buy Louis Vitton and Prada buttplugs.

>>50525942
>>50526230

>>50525829
>Why would he launch PLS before the documentary is out?
He personally stated in that interview with the director guy that he'd rather the doc launch before Pulse so new people would have a chance to know about it.
>Obviously the sole reason for the doc to exist is to hype the PLS launch.
Not really. The reason for the doc is because there are literally zero good documentaries on crypto and the whole RH/HEX ecosystem is the most interesting phenomenon in the space both from a positive and negative angle.
>>50525900
You're in for exactly what you deserve, which depends on how long you hold.
>>50526118
>Source on RH getting rugged by his devs?
There's literally none. Just bored anons writing fan fiction to cope and pass the time while they wait.

>PLS main selling point is PoS and efficiency because ETH cant get its shit together
>ETH merge now is imminent
>PLS other main selling point was a state copy of ETH
>that copy is now over half a year old, with NFTs being dead and most shitcoins being down 80%+
whats even the narrative of this scam anymore

>>50526642
Supposedly it's a faster, cheaper, more secure, deflationary POS L1 that has a better, more decentralized and user friendly staking model. It brings the entire ETH system state with it through the largest airdrop in history. It has a fully functioning trading ecosystem that will have huge liquidity on launch with it's own dex that has improved game theory and actually utilizes its token. And it is providing better price performance potential to investors due to its significantly lower starting market cap compared to other L1's.

>>50526786
>It brings the entire ETH system state with it
yes and now read what i wrote. as far as i know the copy is from november last year or so

>>50526786
> more decentralized
uses 33 prepicked validators is about as centralized as can be, ontop RH will probably own most of the supply as with hex.

Decentralized keklmao

>>50526813
>as far as i know the copy is from november last year or so
Lol, no. That would be insane. You may have misunderstood. There's a currently copy on testnet with a snapshot taken months ago, but the copy and snapshot for mainnet will be taken hours or minutes before launch, depending on how long it takes for them to write all the relevant data.

>>50525900
>00▶
>I sacced like $10k for pls what am i in for lads?
Making it

>>50525281
Source?

>>50526786
Sounds like it will rug.

>>50526850
their uniswap clone literally gives fees to richard heart from every transaction. also theres no full state copy, theyll move any coins from uniswap directly to richards wallet.

im not making this up, this comes from his own twitter. i have no fucking idea why people still give a shit about this faggot, now that this shit is delayed indefinitely

>>50526850
BSC has less than 33 validators and it's been working fine. And I was talking about the Pulse staking model which is more decentralized and user friendly than ETH since there's no need for a 32 ETH minimum to stake your coins as anyone can delegate their stacks to the existing validators allowing everyone to participate in the validation process instead of requiring a 50k minimum to become one. It's simply better thought out as it means that anyone can utilize their Pulse to secure the network.

>>50526915
>Sounds like it will rug.
Clean your ears Ranjeet.

>>50526912
Made it up :)

>>50526939
Dude, you have literally no idea what you're talking about. None of your posts make any sense.

>>50526946
> BSC has less than 33 validators.
Yea and BSC is centralized asf that's why its full of shitcoins with no serious projects besides play to earn stuff. Its the shitcoincasino backed by binance, people trust binance but lets not pretend its decentralized by any means.

> 32 ETH minimum to stake your coins
You need 32 eth to become a validator not to be able to stake..

Anyone with half a brain can see rh aint that smart as he pretends to be. Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer, he is like a prime example of the dunning kruger effect

It honestly blows my mind how anyone can take this sociopathic narcissistic asshole RH serious, it feels like the hexicans and the rest of the crypto community live side by side but don't overlap.
Whenever i look up Pulse or Hex its always infested by normies who have no clue tf is happening outside their little circle and all own 100% hex while having sacrificed their lifesavings, thinking a 1000x is possible when it starts at a ~10 billion+ mc.
No offense to anyone but there seems to be a big gap in technical knowhow between the hex community and the rest of crypto.
> Google wantfi-richard-hearts-hex-token-is-a-brilliant-scam
That explains it quite well but most cant be bothered to read since they rather take anything rh says at face value

>>50527054
>people trust binance but lets not pretend its decentralized by any means.
What does the word decentralized mean to you?
>You need 32 eth to become a validator not to be able to stake
Would I be able to stake a single ETH on Ethereum's V2 and if so where? How much would I get if I did so? What would be the risks I took on by doing so?

>>50527221
> What does the word decentralized mean to you?
Exactly its definition, network not controlled by a single entity or a handful of validators.
> Would I be able to stake a single ETH on Ethereum's V2 and if so where?
Yes staking pools

>>50526623
>>Why would he launch PLS before the documentary is out?
>He personally stated in that interview with the director guy that he'd rather the doc launch before Pulse so new people would have a chance to know about it.
>>Obviously the sole reason for the doc to exist is to hype the PLS launch.
>Not really. The reason for the doc is because there are literally zero good documentaries on crypto and the whole RH/HEX ecosystem is the most interesting phenomenon in the space both from a positive and negative angle.
so exactly like I said; he will release the movie (early 23) before PLS. "He's making the documentary because he's in it for the technology!!". Literally it's a 1,5 hour ad for Pulsechain, nothing else. Anyone expecting PLS to launch in 22 is insane.

>>50526786
cute headcanon anon but let's be serious

>>50527281
Is a handful 5, 10, 21, 33, 69, 150, 500, 1000, 10000, 100000? What's a handful? Where is the line where it's no longer a handful? Why hasn't BSC failed if it's not decentralized? Is more decentralization always better? Is there such a thing as too much decentralization?

>>50525281
You have three types of narcissistic sociopathy:
One is the Richard Heart type, it's the m
lowest and most obscene type. It's directly concerned with receiving as much attention as possible regardless of the quality of this attention, because of this the products they may deliver are not going to be about quality, so they will just copy an existing product and market it differently.

Second type is Craig Wright, it's a bit less obscene and craves a more specific type of attention, wants to be perceived as a revolutionary intellectual and is somewhat concerned with delivering a functional product.

Third type is the most subtle and productive type, Charles Hoskinson, Steve Jobs type. They do love the attention and manipulation but they also can place their libido outside, in the world and want to effectively change it for the better and commit to noble values.

If you're going to invest in a narcissistic sociopath I suggest you do in the third type, it's where you're going to find fundamental value as well as community.

>>50525281
Shut up chud Pulsechain is going to 150$.

>>50526230
It’s launching in the middle of a bear market Anon, everyone is going to need money so everyone will dump day one.

>>50527384
Are you heppy?

>>50527369
>let's be serious
This is literally a joke board.

>>50527421
>It’s launching in the middle of a bear market Anon, everyone is going to need money so everyone will dump day one.
RH will buy the rest of the supply at bottom with the sacced stables, and will end up owning 99% (instead of 95%) of the supply. He can then control the price as he wishes. Few understand.

>>50526623
>He personally stated in that interview with the director guy that he'd rather the doc launch before Pulse so new people would have a chance to know about it.
Revisionism. He and the docu makers previously stated that they wanted to have the Pulse launch featured in the documentary. It's only until recently that he changed his story. Richard has a huge ego which is why I put my money on him but he's also a stupid fuck that gets a lot of things wrong and adamantly denies whenever this happens. He gets a lot of stuff right, too. He's a good founder but a shit project manager.

>>50527376
> Where is the line where it's no longer a handful?
Not sure to be honest but i would say it needs at the minimum 250 validators to even come close to being sufficiently decentralized in my book.

> Why hasn't BSC failed if it's not decentralized?
Its backed by Binance and people trust binance. Simple as that, but don't expect anything serious to run on it.

> Is there such a thing as too much decentralization?
Dont think so / cant see why but obviously the difference between 250 and 500 validators means more then between 2500 and 5000 validators since there is a point it starts becoming more redundant.

>>50527490
Yes. Few understand that Richard owning all the supply is good for holders and will allow big gains like in HEX.

>>50527516
>sufficiently decentralized
Sufficiently decentralized for what?
>there is a point it starts becoming more redundant.
I would agree with that. Imo what matters fundamentally is not decentralization as such, but sufficient decentralization to secure (which is a relative term in relation to probable threats, as more security may be needed over time as the project gains exposure and economic mass) the network. Once you have that as the foundation, the actually important thing is user experience and game theory.

>>50527531
If he doesn't sell them it has the same effect as burning the coins essentially but RH owning basically everything has no positive effect since no corporations are willing to place trust in a sociopath hoping he wont dump.
It goes against the complete nature of crypto. The reason people dont take the inflated mc of hex serious is because richard owns fucking 90% of the supply.

Anyways Hex started as a microcap with no liquidity that's why it was able to do a 10000x, the same wont happen with pulse. Not even close, even if people start dumping at launch.

>>50527686
> Sufficiently decentralized for what?
To make sure they are not controlled by a single entity or group of people collaborating

>>50525281
Is it over?

>>50525281
its easy to build stuff if you know what you are doing, this guy has no clue, look at how fast things are built in hackathons, when learning web3 you learn very early how easy forking is, pulse is pathetic

>>50525281

This whole pulsechain shitshow has become a total fucking joke. Everyone I know no longer takes this dude serious anymore. People are trolling him and his retard fucking devs everywhere, even on their gitlab. I just want my fucking money back.

>>50525467
>I am glad I gave my money away in a maximum centralized way

>>50526118

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXhmLg4sfVg&t=8s

>>50527695
>If he doesn't sell them it has the same effect as burning the coins essentially but RH owning basically everything has no positive effect
burns 99% of the supply at launch
>it has no positive effect!!!

>>50528021
10 seconds in and I sense the narrator is black. Stopped right there.

>>50526230
Anon hex went up 1000000x so pulse will go up 1000000x. It's that simple. I don't want to hear about math or money or market cap that's all for people that don't have Gucci (man)purses

>>50529780
Burning is misunderstood in general and normies eat it up.
Notice how most freshly launched memecoins have terms like ;

- Burned 50% of the supply at launch!!! wauwi!

Yet people fail to understand that it does nothing. Literally nothing. If they launched with 0.5 of the supply it would have the same effect but in Pulse its case its not actually burned but Richard just holds all of it.

>>50525281
>he sacrificed eth for a useless token made by a Gucci wearing insecure fat feminine faggot

>>50530182
>- Burned 50% of the supply at launch!!! wauwi!
you're talking about "burns" before it's on public sale, stupid fuck. Burning after the sac (aka ico), and buying floating coins is completely different. Don't talk to me ever again.

>>50526939
as worthless as Richard Heart is as a person, he has truly mastered the art of leveraging plebs
don't try to debate the plebs

>>50530279
Yea no shit you fucking buffoon i was making a point dumbed down so your peanut brain would grasp it. If Richard gets 90% of pulse alongside you at launch it would have zero impact on your percentage gains besides him potentially crashing it at a later date you retard loving jizz gurgling ebola attracting cock sucking mongloid. If Richard didn't participate you would just have 10 times more coins.

>>50527213
yes, hexicans are the most technologically illiterate and yet the most arrogant
richard heart got the following right : he combined
> marketing
> great game theoretical underpinnings
> a launch at the very start of a bull market
as soon as he got his first success, he's now free to continuously leverage his fame again and again to repeat the whole thing
they're simple worthless ponzis and one will die after the other but due to the expectation of profit people will keep partaking
he's not a particularly intelligent guy to the point i doubt he actually has the IQ he proclaims to have

>>50525281
>PLS will launch and set a new standard in crypto.
Yeah it will and you'll miss out because you didn't SACRIFICE

Behold as all the haters flee the thread as I enter

>>50530388
I wonder if the SEC is ever gonna investigate his 'def not a ICO' scheme because they are gonna love all the hoops he went thru to not be liable in any way, even tho he is.

Its baffling to me how he was able to rile up the normies like this, hope he can keep his scheme running while postponing Pulse indefinitely but the hype is bound to dry up at some point.

>>50530753
>even tho he is
speaking at fox news is not flying under the radar. I guess the never wants to go back to US. He's in eastern Europe, right?

>>50525613
Let me get this straight

It was a sacrifice and not an investment bc securities law

And he’ll airdrop to your MetaMask once you connect to the pulse chain ?

>>50526786
>It brings the entire ETH system state with it through the largest airdrop in history.
The largest airdrop of entirely worthless, meaningless tokens. No legit project is going to double its token supply so it can run on PLS too. No legit project is gonna leave ETH for this scam. It's really just another BSC, but everyone will have worthless ETH copies auto'd into their wallets.

>>50530382
who are you even debating? Him buying the supply with stables has nothing to do with what you're talking about. Are you fat or something?

>>50530753
Estonian citizenship is a nice thing. There's a world outside america you midwit.

Although we are excited to see where this advancements will take us; it's still important to note that this is only a bird's eye view. Ever since the syscon inception in 2014, we have developed and we will continue to do so. Luckily, we don't have to wait long to see this monumental advancements to be realized.

the idea behind air dropping the entire state is kinda fucking retarded
I'm still buying ePLS and LPing it with something correlated, maybe with eHEX

>>50526230
The starting cap is 700mil. You can't count the OA sac as it never sells.
700mil x 10 = 7 billion
700mil x 200 = 140 billion
It can at least 200x imho.

>>50525281
actually bought some more HEX a few days ago, gas fees are cheap because of the bear market, low HEX price too.

What do you mean with "i can't get rich quick" you basterd bitch? I was was hoping to rock the punjabi with ali and achmed, now we have to keep dreaming of getting rich quick. Ser you're a madlad and vishnu will curse you for an eternity.

Threads without Vaperguy are so much better and more logical discussions. Wish that guy will just fuck off already, he does more harm than good with his head in the clouds kissing RH's toes

>>50531250
The initial set price together with its added liquidity decides a tokens velocity at launch so him buying up the supply or using all the funds from the getgo with a higher initial set price will probably result in the coins being worth roughly the same as the amount people sacrificed, give or take, except with him owning almost everything on top.

Knowing RH he will probably pocket 50% since he has no liability and can do whatever he pleases with the sacrificed funds

>>50531287
Sure im from eu but realize the impact the sec can have on the global market or pulse if they deem it a security, pajeet.

>>50531523
No its marketcap all depends on what the set launch price is and/or if it holds, if its ridiculously below the average what people payed during the sacrifice they will feel scammed but if its well above that with little to no liquidity it will dump.

>>50531643
So upset that i'm here to disturb your little emo party huh? Ohh noooo, you can't share your your your negative opinion without getting reminded how retarded you are. And and and you will get bitch slapped for sharing your your your criticism ohh noooooo. Mommey. What you describe as logic is a giant pile of trash that just make sense for your butthurt little ego pal. Go and tell your mother how evil richard is, go get your mummey hugs.

Here pleb, i'm going to predict your future.
>Be negative little emo cunt
>pulse goes live
>YAHHH, WIFE! WIFE! CALL THE VILLIAGE WE VILL BE RICH QUICK NOW
>dump after a 2x
>RICHARD SUCKS
>HE IS A SCAMMER
>Pulse goes up by another 100x
>YES YES, HE WAS AND IS STILL A SCMMER. GLAD I SOLD HUE HUE HUE

What are you going to do with your pulse or pulsex tokens during a bearmarket, you shortsighted fucker? Going into a casino has the same effect.

Fuckers that complain are not meant to make it. Was that constructive enough for you?

>>50531705
>except with him owning almost everything on top
Worked out great for Hex.
>Knowing RH he will probably pocket 50%
Ok post the proof. Ahh you can't cause you're making shit up.
>if they deem it a security
Is BSC a security?
>they will feel scammed but if its well above that with little to no liquidity it will dump
Cool story, but stop being so emotional. Opinions are just opinions, and they're far away from being facts.

>>50531705
Thats not the point, the point is that you've overrated the initial sac amount. There's only 700 million of actual sacs, not counting OA.
Also Richard is probably most of those top saccer wallets kek.

>>50532035
> Also Richard is probably most of those top saccer wallets kek.
Most likely the funds go directly back into his pockets anyhow lol

>>50532001
> Worked out great for Hex.
Sure but people's % gains would have been exactly the same if he didn't hold it all, you just would've gotten more hex per buy.
>Ok post the proof. Ahh you can't cause you're making shit up.
Point is he legally has no obligation and never told and probably never will tell anyone what he will do or did do with the sacrificed amounts.
>Is BSC a security?
probably not but the amount of legal hoops RH took to shift any and all responsibility is worrisome.
>Cool story, but stop being so emotional. Opinions are just opinions, and they're far away from being facts.
I was speculating about its set launch price my guy nothing emotional about that, your the one that seems to take it personal somehow lol. I can see what >>50531643 meant now lmao

>>50532200
>you just would've gotten more hex per buy
True, but who knows if you wouldn't just end up bagholding liquid hex or another coin on it's way down to a -95% drop. Imagine he would announce the sacrifice in a bearmarket. The possibilities are endless.
>Point is he legally has no obligation and never told and probably never will tell anyone what he will do or did do with the sacrificed amounts.
100%, but the entitiy holding those keys has probably good intentions.
>probably not but the amount of legal hoops RH took to shift any and all responsibility is worrisome.
Well, he's smart enough to use his legal rights. TILL regulations happen, but that's also just a speculation.
>I was speculating about its set launch price
That's Impossible to predict. So we imagine or rather speculate based on our emotions. I have a much cooler method to imagine what it possibly could do in the future. The biggest feature to get noticed in the space and it's adoption and bridged in liquidity is the airdrop. That's literally it, people will use pulsechain and if they like it they'll bridge new capital in or out. So do you believe the airdrop is going to cause a mega hype? And do you believe the 25% fee burn and staking model of pulse is so awesome that people will be willing bridge in money in the future? If yes then the price is probably going to do something, but that depends if people like either a) the airdrop or b) pulse
>I can see what >>50531643 # meant now lmao
It's my job to trigger the fudders, i do my best. Btc maxis are usually the loudest ones.

>>50532473
Some fair points, carry on vaperboy.
Not a fan of RH or Pulsechain, as i made abundantly clear this thread, but i can see the hype behind it might bring tendies to be had for early investors like you. WAGMI