/biz/ - Business & Finance

>"Mr. Goldman trader, why did the market not go down?"

>>50416779

>dumps your bags
>liquidates your shorts when you try to join a crowded, obvious trade
>shorts again after you think it's safe to rebuy

>>50416779
Objective proof that everyone is bearish right now, bobos on /biz/ still deny this fact.

>>50416779
priced in, simple as.

Sneed

>>50416816
OR maybe people only dump their bags when the FED is guaranteed to raise rates and don't care about anything else.

>>50416816
but everyone being bearish is bearish right?

>>50416816
>Everyone thinks things are bad
>That means everything is great actually!

>>50416853
>>50416842
>>50416841
>bobos in a bucket

>>50416779
People work as Software Engineers at Google and don't know how to install a stick of ram.

C L O W N W O R L D™

>>50416864
not an argument

>>50416779
Bc you have people investing in the market that are buying the dip, and you have market makers preventing corrections.

>>50416885
>"The bearish trade is very consensus, when I talk about very consensus, I mean very very consensus. I got more pings this week, than any week of 2022."

>>50416779
they won't let the house of cards fall, their lavish lifestyles depend on it

>>50416816
which is why smart money is going long on everything right now
generational wealth is born from bear markets, not buying some boomer's retirement bags after 14 years of pumping

>>50416779
>incredibly worsening data
this suggests that the data that shows worsening is not credible, which would explain why the markets haven't gone down

>>50416784
can't do shit

>>50416779
>incredibly worsening data
Glad to know even whales are midwit normies that only listens to msm

>>50416779
>even normies are bearish
bobo eternally BTFO

>>50416779
>bobos are midwits
Every time. You learned nothing from spring 2020 it seems.

IMO there was a lot of manipulation by the fed to avoid a march 2020 style crash
All of the pressure they applied in the bond market to move money to the stock market kept it from crashing, all at the cost of inflation

They need however to pump even more money out to sustain the debt based economy and they’ll seize on the opportunity the moment a deflationary pulse comes in
Probably next month

>>50416960
>10% inflation is le good!!!

>>50416779
The hyperinflationary turn. Shit is going to get ridiculous quick.

Same reason oil took a bit before falling, while prices of other commodities like wheat and corn cratered weeks before.

>>50416960
wow unreal the fed funds rate is only -7.5% right now.

>insiders know CPI data will be bad
>the obvious move is to short
>market opens, everyone goes short. Price falls
>market makers then pump the price to liquidate shorts
This will happen to longs soon as well. As long as volume is low, manipulation will take place

>>50416960
They should hire you at the White House to tell the plebs everything is fine.

Unironically priced into multiples until end of this earnings season

>>50416779
babby's first redpill

>>50416871
maybe because that is totally irrelevant to the duties of a software engineer who writes programs and isn't some IT monkey hooking up monitors in conference rooms

>>50416779
bear euphoria

>>50417399
Software Devs literally spend the majority on their time on Google. They should be able to find out how based on a simple search

>>50417399
Im an IT monkey and make 6 figs. Have fun working hard on shitty code. Meanwhile i do whatever the fuck I want all day. Also please stop making shitty software when you do then I have to uninstall and reinstall it or change to other software solutions. This takes time away from me watching movies and playing video games all day.

>>50416960
TRUFLATION it's got the word tru in there so you know it's tru

>>50416816
Brainlet here. Is there ANY reason to be bullish other than lots of people being bearish?

>>50417399
Software engineers who don't understand the metal underneath generally write really bad software. This is why web pages now use 1GB RAM.

>>50417399
FELTED
ITchads we won this round

>>50416853
This but unironically.

>>50416816
contrary opinion

>>50416871
They just download it, du'h.
>>50418109
This. Amazes me how few actually even try to understand what goes on underneath their shitty code.
>t. dev

Line go up
Line go down
Can't explain that

>>50418172
Jews

>>50418081
Ya, the Fed pivot coming in December, bobos are unironically almost out of time. December is when the markets have the peak rate priced in, aggressive rate cuts begin in 2023.

>>50418265
>more fucking inflation
2008 will never end until ALL the leverage is bled out of the system.

Biz is so le epic contrarian that in the face of the end of the fiat cycle, staring a debt crisis and unprecedented economic chaos in the face, they think the smart thing to do is go long when "the normies" want to sell.
Pro-tip: normies aren't involved, they got rekt by rate hikes and inflation and lost their last stimulus on dog coins in 2021.

>>50418072
Well it's cryptographically secure and they tell you how it's weighed. Also based on chainlink oracles. It's the closest to the truth you can get

>>50418328
>2008 will never end until ALL the leverage is bled out of the system.
True, that's the key flaw to the current bobo thesis. This fake economy will continue and the Fed wlll kick the can.

>>50416779
short covering rally

>>50416805
>he STILL thinks the bottom isn't in
There is no helping you people.

>>50418506
Bitcoin halvening just finished happening.
The bottom is officially in.

>>50416871
To be fair that is hardware

>>50416779
>zerohedge

Priced in niggerrrr

>>50418506
I bought eth at 900 and have a sell order for half at 1800 lel

>>50417399
>t. doesn't know how to install a stick of ram
it's okay man, it's really easy

>>50416779
Normies and dumb bobos dont understand capital markets. The market is FORWARD LOOKING, by about 6 months. Everyone knows about inflation. Everyone knows about gas prices. Everyone knows about recession. All of this information gets factored into prices of financial assets once the evidence becomes clear. People with lots of inherited wealth are dumb too, which is why they need financial advisors to talk them off the ledge. Everyone is bearish. When the bottom comes, you won't buy it because it's "literally over". You are not special, you are the bell boy who gives stock tips far too late.

>>50416779
>goyim cattle actually bought the puts

>>50418437
>Well it's cryptographically secure
This is probably the most retarded post I have read in a long time

>based on chainlink oracles. It's the closest to the truth you can get
Anyone can set up a chainlink oracle you fucking retard

>>50419748
Then why haven't you set up your own chainlink oracle ya fuckin goon.

>>50416871
I am a C++ developer since 10 years and I am really shit in hardware stuff. But I write fast and reliable code and I can solve complex mathematical problems what most of my colleagues can't. I saved a lot of money for my company with my ideas.

>>50418849
If everyone is bearish then why would that ever translate into bullishness. I’d literally everyone feels like selling, why the hell would the price go up

>>50416923
>just be contrarian, bro

>>50418109
>Software engineers who don't understand the metal underneath generally write really bad software
It depends. You can understand memory management without putting together a computer yourself.

>>50416779
The guy nearest, right of center. Is he wearing fucking clown makeup?

>>50418795
>I bought eth at 900 and have a sell order for half at 1800

Good to hear you’ll be taking profits

(Editors note: this is sarcasm)

>>50418027
based

Yea why did it go up? there's no reason

>>50416871
if that was true then why am I not making 6-figs working at Google? I need to get FAGMAN on my resume.

>>50416779
Because the market is artificial. It will be manipulated any way they like until they have an event like GME kick off.

It's a fact that retail keeps buyingmore than they're selling. I'm guessing the hedgies have already sold most of their shit. They can't sell everything, they need to keep one foot in the pool in case the market shoots back up.

Might be a strange bottom.

Put the two

>>50418027
Based

>>50419950
Will you be a diversity hire?
If no, you already know the answer.

>>50418586
you work with hardware, you should be able to understand it to some extend

even race drivers usually know how their cars work, jfc its your main tool you should be able to maintain/fix/upgrade it - especially since its all plug n play

you can always look up what goes together and what doesnt, especially since shit changes fast

>>50419886
Depends on how low price is relative to true value, how much has capitulated already vs. how much is locked in for the ride vs. how much already sold.
The economy is fundamentally undervalued at the nominal level it's at and all the cash on the side means the crash is never coming

>>50416816
There is no bigger bullish signal than when everyone is bearish

>>50419886
People don't comment publicly until they've set their investments to match their feelings on the market. If everyone is bullish it means they've already sold. This means we're at the bottom.

>>50416779
The ultimate bottom signal
>Everyone thought it was going to fall and gave all sold
>Now no one is selling
>Bulls are quietly making moves to build generational wealth
>Market goes up
>Bears: wHy Is MaRkEt GoInG uP?

>>50416853
Buy when others are fearful anon have you not been listening?

>generational wealth

History saliemts most men are always wrong. Take the scam epidemics argument into consideration, for example, most actors in crypto and finance agree that most projects in the sphere are a scam. They're wrong. They're missing a
>monolithic
data point: there's no such thing as a scam that large. Twenty five thousand digital instruments don't simply amount to notbing. This is a virtual chem soup slowly spawning digital freedom. These proverbial Neanderthals are gonna miss the evolutionary boat yet again. It's right there, right in front of them. But they have LCDs but don't see it and podcasts but don't listen. Too bad bears. The Golden Bullrun is going to locomotive upon and through you. You have been warned. By even Jesus.

>>50419869
>WAGIE!
>DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT LOOK AT THE FUNNY ANIMALS
>SWEEEP

>>50416816
Yet you are here and shit on your own argument. Congratulations, I think you are mentally challenged

>>50416779
Thanks for playing.

>>50416853
Actually yes.

Now everyone is suddenly bullish and bets on a facemelting bear rally. So what's the move now, fag? People are ridiculously euphoric.

>>50421388
Almost nobody is bullish, a small minority on /biz/ doesn't mean the general population is bullish. /biz/ is a high IQ board so it tends to shift bullish before the general public realizes the bull market is back.
>>50421065
Good one midwit.

>>50416779
Because when someone sells, there is a buyer of that stock so it keeps going up.

Bulls literally cannot lose.

>>50419889
This but unironically

>>50419889
this but ironically

>>50416779
did anyone actually pay to read the article?

>>50421720
>>50421747
something else, but unironically

>>50421763
since when does zerohedge cost money? the writers are all Tyler Durden

>>50416779
the real question for goyman shucks is why gold isnt going up

>>50419886
Because everyone has already sold by the time that happens

Markets go up because fed pivot on end of 2022 is near certain
Duh

>>50416779
So, what is the answer? Why are bad news good news?

>>50422206
You can't go from bad to worse, you can only oscillate between good and bad. So if things are bad that means they will be good soon.

>>50416871
Some might but they're not allowed to, they have to ask the tech people at their companies to do it for them.

>>50422274
>You can't go from bad to worse

>>50417028
You don't even know what you're looking at do you?

>>50422206

its a paywall article
no one really knows because no ones paying to read it

>>50416842
It is, until it isn't.

>>50416816
the only case to be bullish is predicting the economy will crater even further so the fed turns the printer back on. Lmao

>>50416842
Supermajority indicator: when there is a supermajority, the supermajority's sentiment is always wrong.

>>50418027
>>50418109
>>50419900
You retards wonder why Chrome sucks memory allocation and someone had to make an extension to kill unused tabs...

>>50420812

Sauce?

>>50422026
“Gee honey, our retirement fund is really taking a beating. Maybe we should withdraw it all and park it in shiny trinkets that we will pay a 10% premium for and have to sell back to greedy Jews for 15% less than market price to get our money back later?”
Gold is something boomers buy an ounce or two of or blacks buy a couple grams of in their form of cheap 14k gold chains. Everyone who wants it has some, and nobody is flush with cash to buy more. Not everyone buying gold is some savvy investor looking for the next bubble to jump into.

its such a smart play when everyone is expecting a crash and holding money obviously it will pump first because everyone is always wrong just for them to fomo into the really buying the bags and then eternally getting rug pulled ( WHO COULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING THIS IS UNFAIR)

>>50418147
what book is this from?

>>50418147
Redpilled

>Generational wealth
>No one ITT has even held a woman's hand

>>50418388
redditors shorting like never before

its definitely a signal when retail start thinking down only

>>50420854
>>50422891
Sad pathetic bag holder is sad

>>50416779
Sell the rumour, buy the news, anon.

>>50420812
That's a man

>>50416779
I hate to be this guy but isn't this literally the exact same thing that happened back in 2007/08?

>>50418147
Major redpill . Not selling or shorting, good luck gamblers :)

>>50416779
>>50416784
Banks poomp the market, it's all fake.
The Bull-berg rubs his hands as Bobo starves looking for a red candle

>>50416816
People can think whatever they want, they still haven't sold.

>>50416871
I honestly do now know how to build my PC and call the rapair guy every time my PC refuses to start.

t. SWE with 270k salary

>>50418849
Halvenings are never priced in, even though we know about them 100 years in advance.

>>50419906
No

>>50416779
> He didn't buy the bottom

>>50421040
Hallelujah pass the bugs

>>50416841
>>50416779
>>50416784
>>50416816

Smart money trades several steps ahead of whatever looks like the current outlook to normies (which is most people on this board). Smart money can see the fed pivot incoming

>>50416853
It works like this: before someone has expressed their negative view of the markets, they've likely already sold. This means that if everyone are bearish, everyone has already sold, which means that there's no sell pressure left, which means that only buyers remains.
Watch and learn, junior.
There's literally a gazillion dollars on the sidelines waiting for the "final bottom", which is already in.

>>50425015
so what does this mean, and how do we plebs profit from this? Buy now? Sell and stay in cash?

>>50425015
>Smart money can see the fed pivot incoming
Yeah... do think the FED is seeing a strong dollar and going to get cold feed and pull rates back to fight that.

This shit is all rigged. If the pivot doesn't work and we end up in a rescission with a high inflation. And we are in a world of fucking hurt. If I was the FED I would not pivot. Fighting inflation would be my number one goal fuck everything else. Fuck big business fuck the bank fuck the government. Those guys had it to good for too long.

>Biden says he's saving the economy
>Markets poomp a little
>Markets still deep in the shitter
>Mid-terms come along
>kikes doomp the whole market
>everyone panics
>Republicans promise to fix the economy and blame Biden
>Republicans win big
>tax breaks and free money flows into wallstreet
>everyone celebrates and reinvests
>market poomps

>>50425136
>There's literally a gazillion dollars on the sidelines waiting for the "final bottom", which is already in.
How do I profit from this?

>>50416779
WHY DID THEY NOT REDEEM MR GOLDMAN BASTERD SER

>>50418081
>lots of people being bearish
This is exactly why you should be bullish. Generational wealth is awaiting for tou

>>50420812
Honestly if women actually did this, we wouldn’t have the problems we have. How could you not treat her well and take care of her if she was like this?

>>50416794
This.

>>50416871
>t. linus tech tips viewer who thinks plugging a stick into a socket is a real skill rather than adult lego

>>50418147
Does RSI do a good job of modelling this?

>>50425627
Most women were like this and most men treated them like shit. That's why they don't act this way anymore.

>>50425877
>Most women were like this
lol
lmao, even

>>50416871
Richard Stallman doesn't know how to install GNU/Linux, a software he shills

>>50419869
Aww how cute. Black dude having fun thinking he's a human.

>>50419869
congratz you are a good goym! Thanks for bringing in millions for your company and wagecucking a 1/100 of it

I used to work at Goldman Sachs for a whole year.
One of the worst companies ever.

>>50416779
why is the zerohedge profile pic a gay nigger?

>>50421701
That's a very esoteric way to call bears retarded

>>50420812
I know this whole video is supposed by sarcastic but dam that is the more appealing scenario I've seen in a long time.

>>50425858
On the weekly or monthly time frames yes. One key thing to look for on those time frames is hidden bearish divergence.

Captcha has been a bitch today. Try 7 and I had to get a notification for a ban.

>>50426933
hello zoom zoom

>>50420812
What is the female fantasy equivalent of tradfu? A rich handsome billionaire?

>>50420812
For those wondering, yes that's a tranny

>>50425232
...is this the fabled golden bull run we have all waited for?

>>50429131
I got hard from watching it
does that mean I caught the gay?

>>50425136
The gazillion dollars are still locked in shit like REITs and SPY even as they've fallen so far. That kind of insurmountable limit of buy or sell pressure only happens at capitulation, but very few have capitulated. People who rode the big bull cock for two years are only very slowly reaching their breaking point and trying to take profits before they fall to break even.

>>50416779
They're rats trying to stay afloat in the water, they won't give up because there is the near certain expectation that the Fed will bail them out soon

>>50418437
>It's the closest to the truth you can get
Or I could just go to the grocery store, the gas station, and the apartment listings and compare to a year ago.
No one gives a shit that fancy watches and TVs haven't gone up; they care that their grocery bill is up 50% and gas is up 100% from Q1 2021.

>>50432895
>compare to a year ago.
You must not do your own research bigot. The past is dead.

>>50419798
kek imagine having your iq

>>50419869
nigger your job is being good at Google, just Google how to install a ram stick

>>50430173
no just tricked bro, dont think like that

>>50430058
This was the first dip in BTC first extended/double cycle. Or dead cat bounce.

>>50422387
>>50416842
During a bull market everyone is bullish and the market goes up. During a bear market everyone is bullish and the market goes down, until everyone becomes bearish, then the market goes down more, then the Fed bails out the market and it goes up. Trying to be a "contrarian" is dumb except at the beginning of a bear market.

>>50425801
>SWE is assblasted he can't into adult legos

>>50425801
These chuds would probably mismatch channels or buy wrong timing desu senpai.

>>50437456
This guy looks happy. I bet he owns a lot of stuff.

>>50422594
John J. Murphy - Technical Analysis Of The Financial Markets

>>50418506
The FED hasn't started QE yet retard.

>>50425212
they have to do this until the election season.
>we beat inflation guys!
>Just like the Avengers beating Thanos!!!!!!!!!!
>Or Zelensky heckin' defeating Putler!

>why doesn't the market dump instantly to the bottom then crab sideways in a bear market
i dunno man

>>50416779
this means most of retail are now shorting. the bottom is in

>>50416871
i used to be an IT headhunter, which meant I was a smooth talker with zero technical skills, and even I know how to install a stick of ram, which as related to software engineering as building a lego racecar is to being a racedriver

>>50421701
>biz is a high iq board.

Lol. Please.

>>50428818
yes. A rich, handsome daddy

>>50416864
chicken strips

>>50416784
I asked myself the same question in the mirror last night, I think the constant emotional abuse with lace made me get used to the misery, now that I'm finally making a profit I feel weird, I'm winning at the game of life, and not enjoying it

>>50416816
all the (you)’s just confirm this. new bizlets seething about missing the bottom

We’re probably close to the bottom and after midterms we’ll rally.

>>50417399
>a software engineer
I'd say as a software engineer you do more than writing code, i.e. designing software. For that you will have to consider the deployment environment. If you're in a huge company sure, there will be an IT guy. If you're only one of a few developers it would be your job to upgrade the server or whatever. Also, what kind of software dev doesn't tinker around with hardware? Whether it's breaking circuits on the PSP battery to flash a custom rom or 'build' a PC to run a Hackintosh.

if everything is bearish, nothing is

Priced in.
I feel like noone in Finance has taken Finance 1 which is very strange. What did they even do in uni?

>>50419869
>I saved a lot of money for my company with my ideas.
you must really be a big wheel down at the cheese factory

Its an old fashioned Mexican standoff.
We can crab here all month waiting.

>>50416871
>skilled worker isnt skilled in another discipline
>Pilots are working at American Airlines can't even replace a jet engine

>>50425015
if they pump it too high the fed will think it has a cushion to increase rates. it might be bait. a double bluff. a pump and dump of epic proportions.

Eurozone just hit 8.6% inflation.

So why the fuck are markets pumping right now???

>>50426827
why? give more details

>>50440975
Your pic basically.

The market is the embodiment of clown world. We pump on bad news, except sometimes we don't because reasons.

>>50421714
This but unironically. The true bearish indicator isn't high volume selling. Its wide bid ask spreads + people killing themselves and leaving their assets to be scooped up by vultures for free.

>>50422891
>Hag holder

>>50425196
Pitchfork them and take their money.

>>50440387
Software engineers aren't real engineers.

t. EEchads

retards dont know that the last 6 and a half months has been the crash and now the markets going to trend upward for the rest of the year till midterms then crash to covid lows

>>50416841
lol if it's in the headlines it's already priced in
get better catalysts

>>50441456
Must be why they get paid more than you.

>>50416842
whos left to sell?