/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50385071
It’s hilarious that they created this whole organization just to cover up the amount of gay sex they were having

>>50385071
I’m not into gay sex and handshakes

>you're never gonna be a freemason

>>50385071
>elitism
lmao, maybe 200 years ago

>>50385116
That bearish quote is a designed bias.

Serious answer. My dad nearly became a mason, he was very interested in it and went to several meetings but decided to not become a full member. Ironically it is a very interesting society with lots of networking and decent moral teaching.

>>50385071
Idk, I’m just glad they’re men-only, but unfortunately they attract larders instead of people who I’d actually want to hang around. https://www.history.com/.amp/news/freemasons-facts-symbols-handshake-meaning

>>50385071
Idk, I've achieved enlightenment so it would make sense for them to welcome me into their brotherhood but all of the stuff that they allegedly promote like trannies and mass immigration seems very satanic and I'm not at all interested in worldly power and would never sacrifice my values for that

Operation Mindfuck thread? Friendly reminder that the discordians have changed operation from blaming 'the Illuminati' into blaming freemason.
>>50385206
you've never met a blue lodge freemason

>>50385144
It’s mostly fat fucks now
My neighbor looks like the fat basedjack and his cars have multiple mason badges

>>50385206
Well that would be because they are satanic Jews.
>>50385215
You've never reached enlightenment

>>50385180
Idiots attempt to derail and fud them for their midst being replete of mischievous and otherwise malicious (if not outright malignant) parties but one does not judge a book by its cover alone but content. The group has the right ideas and it's not the fault of the concept that members are beneath it. Reason alone would indicate that there are magnificent men among them. Good luck to them. They always are in need of it. Always outnumbered by the majority of men.

>>50385276
I have, then came down from the mountain.

>>50385071
I checked them out and they're all good guys.
But I don't trust them.

>>50385203
Based
Anyone know what level these badges are?
Not so secret if they put it on their cars
>>50385283
The organization is a circle jerk based on controlling and spying on their own members
They’re not anyone to look up to

>>50385283
It's ironic how they were and are perceived as people instigating immorality and tearing down tradition but they literally are the most conservatively minded people.

Cool logo, post CA

>>50385336
>Acts like he knows the group based on his small amount of life experience fucking homo

>>50385318
thing is, most of their members are high ranking members of society or police officers. They live their symbols on everything and the matrix movies are filled with their symbols.
So do they stand for freedom and that's why they made the matrix movies to teach people? Or are they like the machines and just want to control everyone?

It's hard to tell with masons if they are control freaks or freedom fighters, sometimes it seems like they flip flop between the two extremes.

>>50385298
Sodomized by a grand master?

>>50385367
literally read anything about freemasonry

>>50385336
back in the day the separation between church and state and the notion that all men are created equal and entitled to equal rights under the law has blasphemy and heresy. In those old days they were basically viewed as satanists by the church.

>>50385372
They’re control fags larping as freedom fighters
Have you ever heard of any mason fighting for freedom in the last 50 years?

>>50385336
They are larping faggots who subverted our history. Their conservation is that of their own lies.

>>50385387
Freemasonry has been gay for the last 100 years
Last good one was manly hall

not all masons believe the same things or have the same goals anymore

>>50385405
>Have you ever heard of any mason fighting for freedom in the last 50 years?

No but they the USA is a masonic country in origin. The concept of "liberty and justice for all" is masonic.

>>50385435
They don’t practice what they preach
Weren’t Obama, Bush and Clinton all masons?
Putting freedom and liberty on your logo doesn’t mean shit

>>50385435
>>50385405

Also every tyrannical, whether atheist or theist, or any other form of authoritarian country always banned freemasonry.
It's banned in China and parts of the middle east, and Hitler banned it when he rose to power.

>>50385071
It will only drag you down further.

>>50385467
>Weren’t Obama, Bush and Clinton all masons?

I don't think any of them were masons, but I don't know.
Bush was skull and bones, which isn't masonic, it's way more elitist and exclusive than masonry.

>>50385093
fpbp

>>50385435
Liberty and justice predate masons by the way
Their not mason concepts, they’re cover for paddling each other in a lodge
Fuck found masons and their stupid rituals

>>50385471
Bad guy bans it then it must be good
Hitler also banned Jews and China banned jesuits

>>50385499
>Liberty and justice predate masons by the way

Masonry is older than the European enlightenment if you believe certain sources.
But the core tenant of masonry is that all human beings are born equal under God. It's why they accept anyone who believes in God, regardless of race, religion, or sexual orientation.
They claim that equality and liberty are their main things.
But of course there are plenty of signs they're actually control freaks.

It's just The Matrix is a masonic film, there's just too many references in it. Why would they make those films if they weren't trying to teach people?

>>50385471
>Hitler banned it when he rose to power
Anyone got the screencap on the anons Nazi grandad who raided a lodge filled with Moloch worshipping Jews torturing children?
Was basically pizzagate type shit.

>>50385573
Are you retarded?
You keep acting like all masons agree
Masons didn’t create the matrix
Trannys created it, just because they use Masonic symbols doesn’t mean shit
That movie hasn’t done shit anyway
It’s not doing anything for the public besides telling everyone this a prison planet in subtle ways
I do more on biz talking about the truth than some silly fake movie
You sound like a fat cuckk

>>50385233
Bet he feels the great shit

>>50385093
yes but that was when they were called Templars

>>50385638
>Masons didn’t create the matrix
Masons own hollywood that's common knowledge. They're like a gang spraying their tags on everything they touch.
They have their flag on the moon.

>>50385071
>become a buttfucking pedo for money and 'power' at the cost of your soul

>>50385693
>own Hollywood
So they’re evil as all shit
You make a horrible case for masons
You’re probably one yourself
No group is 100% bad or good but masons are responsible for movies and tv which makes more evil than good

you fags didn't know the whole amercian socity of today was created by masons.

>>50385772
That's what I'm saying, it's hard to tell what their alignment is, good vs evil or order vs chaos.
But I do know that most of their members are well to do people like military and high net worth people.
I don't trust anyone who makes more money than I do.

>>50385807
yeah and they still run it today
im not impressed with their work

>>50385693
>Masons own hollywood that's common knowledge
Not Jews?

>>50385835
>Be high level guy
>Join organisation
>Do suss shit
>Get blackmailed
gg, no take backs or we chop your dick off

>>50385847
Masons own it when it’s good
Jews own it when it’s bad
Truth is Rockefellers and Rothschilds have always owned the masons
Next these fags will tell us Cecil Rhodes was a great guy

>>50385865
They do have brutal punishments for breaking their oaths that they are sworn to deny buy /x/ has all the screenshots of their books.

One is they pull your heart out through your back if you break the oath of secrecy. They are documented of having killed members who broke oaths.

>>50385847
There is some sort of relationship between jews and masons for sure. But I don't know the nature of it.

>>50385354
based shitcoin enjoyer

>>50385372
Don't we all?

>>50385405
William Colby.

>>50386014
if you want to get really schizo, the Shriners God has three heads, one an ugly sick looking king, one a cat, and one a frog.
What animals do people on 4chan represent themselves as the most?
that's right, cats and frogs.
Sus.

>>50385071
My grandpa was a freemason but never introduce me to anyone. Is at easy as just saying I'm related to someone who was an x level mason (don't wanna doxx myself idk how many there are at his level)? Or do I need a formal invitation of some sort?

>>50385918
B'nai B'rith are jewish Masons. They created the KKK. In general though Masons are into the Kabbalah, some of its teachings anyway. How "jewish" Masonry is depends on your lodge and degree, and what other orders the Mason's in that lodge belong to. Obviously the more powerful members belong to orders you've never heard of. Becoming a Mason is like getting your bachelor's degree. Then as you progress and if you're worthy you find out about other orders. It's all horse shit though. They're privileged slaves, nothing more.

>>50385215
The illuminati is the (mainly) freemasons. Masons were the ones who hid the knights templar when they were being (rightfully) burned at the stake by the French monarchy.

>>50385627
Found it

>>50386044
That looks like Jordan maxwell
And William Colby (cia director) was human scum
Just because he wanted to disclose aliens to Americans doesn’t make him good
He was a goy puppet like all masons

>>50386058
We
>are
by the very definition
>a secretive society
ourselves, here.
Of course, our proverbial membership is no secret to the movers and shakers themselves, as I hope you're fully aware, but we are, like the fraternity at hand,
>discreet
about our coming here, and our mutual words that share specific meanings within specific contexts etc
We are not as different at all.
And in our midst might lie the very future of freedom. So help we, P-p-.

>>50386108

>>50386155
>we
>are
>discreet
cope this a public forum on one of the most popular websites on the internet. You have any idea how people read these threads?

>>50386234
>Operate in plain sight
>Only those who know, know
Proving his point there.

>>50386234
>You have any idea how people read these threads?
you have any idea how *many* people...

>>50386251
Everybody knows.
you ain't slick

>>50386110
Holy shit
The masons need to be stopped

>>50386110

>>50385071
Why would I want to associate with nigger faggot baby fuckers?

I thought masons were only africans swearing oaths to jews pretending to be crusaders?

in my area I only see blacks with the freemason logo on their cars

>>50386483
They’ve been recruiting a lot of black masons
Probably to start a race war

I always honk at and flip off mason cars

>>50386085
You gotta suck all their dicks.

>>50386686
Thems the rules
That’s why they all wear cum bibs around their junk

>>50385372
Jews play both sides.

>>50386562
They've already been around a while, black masons help run/control black gangs which sell drugs and do other crimes for them as well.

>>50386110
I never heard of Amaleks before, can I get a redpill? According to Jewpedia it sounds like they're muslims

>>50386110
Do you fags actually believe this pizzagate tier nazi LARPing? I dislike Jews as much as the next but come on.

>>50386994
Pretty much everyone who isn't a kike. Germans, Americans.

>>50386994
>Amaleks
Descendants of Esau who was a piece of shit like all people in the Old Testament
It’s used to describe enemies of the Jews but they were wiped out by the Jews being led by “god”
>>50387108
You’re so naive

>>50385071
Not profit or gain. I want their knowledge so badly. The idea of perfecting an inner temple, while being a good steward of this world.... I love some aspects of their philosophy and admit I completely misjudged them.

>>50385071
Free mason is an ideology and ideal. It encompasses the utmost importance of recognizing there is a higher power above you and that no one on this planet can dictate and destroy your liberty and walk of life. Simple as

>>50387227
Keep in mind Jews lie about everything including being the children of Israel so there's probably some distortion in there.

>>50388434
>and that no one on this planet can dictate and destroy your liberty and walk of life
except higher level freemasons kek

>>50388546
They’re mostly autonomous. If you around the wife on a consistent basis sure then they might intervene and want to know what you’re about

>>50388263
Picrel
Here you go the spiritual stuff without any pedo shit
>>50388434
An ideology that allows pedos to rape kids

>>50385071
In France we have a lot of rotten to the core leftist politicians like Mélanchon being part of freemasonry. It gives you an idea of what to expect in that kind of institution.

>>50386058
>an ugly sick looking king

>>50385330

Shriners, Scottish Rite and Blue Lodge. Shriners are pretty high up on the ladder but then again, it's a badge on a Chevy.

>>50385471
But he failed to ban the Jesuits like Heinrich Himmler’s father kek.

>>50385467
There are two mason groups. You have the norm, which is the front that a bunch of people in this thread believe, and then you have 33rd degree, which is the real Freemasonry that all elites in history for the past couple hundred years are a part of. You need a front so that low info midwits go "WELL MY GRANDPA WAS IN IT AND ALL THEY DID WAS DRINK ON THE WEEKENDS SO IT CANT BE BAD" like half the retards in this thread.

>>50386058
>the Shriners God has three heads, one an ugly sick looking king, one a cat, and one a frog.
That's Bael, a literal demon

>>50389054
Holy shit that nose

>>50389020
Worked for me
I always thought Shriners were old dudes with funny hats helping sick kids
Why are the based on Arabia if they started in NY?

>>50389054
The secret name is Jahbulon.
Btw. The Jah-hovah's witnesses are a secret experimental sect of freemasons dedicated to speechcraft and blood sacrifice if you were curious.

This is going to lead me down another rabbit hole
I’m already reading about how Shriners started with weishaupt and bektashi
This should be taught in schools

>>50389220
>The name of the Supreme Being, which all Masons must accept before joining a Lodge, is Jah-Bul-On. This is confirmed in Freemason Jasper Ridley's book "The Freemasons", where he twice refers to the Masonic god as being Jahbulon, as revealed in the Royal Arch Degree.
>Jahbulon is a composite name made up of three parts - "Jah", being the Hebrew name for God... "Bul" refers to the Babylonian deity Baal and "On" refers to the Egytpian deity Osiris, so out goes the window that the All Seeing Grand Architect of the Universe is a Christian God because Baal is condemned in the Old Testament as being a false God.
I had no idea. Thanks, anon.

>>50389220
>The name of the Supreme Being, which all Masons must accept before joining a Lodge, is Jah-Bul-On. This is confirmed in Freemason Jasper Ridley's book "The Freemasons", where he twice refers to the Masonic god as being Jahbulon, as revealed in the Royal Arch Degree.
>Jahbulon is a composite name made up of three parts - "Jah", being the Hebrew name for God... "Bul" refers to the Babylonian deity Baal and "On" refers to the Egytpian deity Osiris, so out goes the window that the All Seeing Grand Architect of the Universe is a Christian God because Baal is condemned in the Old Testament as being a false God.
I had no idea. Thanks, anon.
I always thought it was weird that they never refer to God as God and always stay 'Grand Architect'.

>>50389248
How do we profit though

>>50389328
This is profit of the soul, not monetary. You can not serve both God and mammon.

Freemasons worship Saturn

>>50389248
>This should be taught in schools
It will never be because of the Tavistock Institute. There's another rabbit hole for you.

>>50389248
Protip: The rabbit hole ends with the Jews.

>>50389415
Always does

>>50385071
I suspect it's vastly overhyped

So you fuckers are on my shit for literally no reason... just adult men brainlessly obedient to the cum of a fat jew???

>>50389345
Money is power in the physical realm though, it makes exerting will in the physical realm more potent

>>50386085
You need to ask to become a mason, they won't invite you. Masons are men who strive to better themselves and society. They all believe in a Grand Architect of some description and at the highest levels they guard the secrets of Solomon.
Email your local or state Masonic centre and ask them how to join and why you think your suitable. Someone will contact you.

>>50390243
>Masons are men who strive to better themselves and society.
lol
>They all believe in a Grand Architect of some description and at the highest levels they guard the secrets of Solomon.
lmao even

>>50390243
Sounds like a homosexual club

>>50386110
Retarded pol larp.

>>50385638
The concept of blue and red pill becoming a meme have had quite an impact transforming 'public consciousness' on the right wing.

>>50390531
If you don’t like 4chan you can leave
>>50390533
Wachowskis are literal trannies and NWO puppets
Stop acting like they saved the world through a movie with shitty lighting
>but they invented a meme
So did the catch me outside bitch and a million other retards

>>50386110
>....the devil won. We are living in hell.
one chance in life, and we had to live in a world ruled by satanists pedophiles

>>50390599

>>50385071
some old retarded biden/trans/blm supporters larping as magicians and sucking each other off. sounds gay af to me ngl

>>50390609

Nah man, just going to be selling my bag of matic when it hits 10$. Going to retire comfortably with a nice house and a car and that's it. Not greedy

>>50385215
freemasonry is just cultic hierarchic judaism designed to act as a secret society that can assert the will of the banker men, and so was the 'illuminati'

>>50390658

>>50385918
>There is some sort of relationship between jews and masons for sure. But I don't know the nature of it.
>masons blatantly use jewish symbolism and require you to accept the god of the old testament
lmao cmon nigger u can do better than that

>>50386994
Tribe of people that attacked israel at their weakest point while they were leaving Egypt. Because they did this they are to be destroyed.

Amalek was destroyed by King Saul. Modern Jews are khazars who call everyone else amalek to justify their satanic practices and behaviour.
>T. Read the old testament

>>50385888
Nay. Freemasons were founded by tulmudic jews around 43 AD to counter the teachings of Christ. Majority of masons are jewish, the non jews are "useful idiots".

>>50389325
Masons also worship lucifer and bahamot.

>>50385693
>thinks people have played golf on the moon and driven a little buggy around not once but six times fifty plus years ago
Anon, I....

>>50391167
>everyone else amalek
More specifically it refers to whites.

>>50391195
Well yeah, thats obvious.

>>50391281
They claim lucifer is a good boy who didn do nuthin wong. That old bad Yahweh is the evil one. They honestly believe in dual divinity which is contradictory as there can only be one almighty God.

>>50385071
it's a jewish golem for goyim, its just jewish mysticism for goyim, and they all work to establish the jew world order. the cult memberes get off on the secrecy therefore they will never admit it to themselves, what theyre actually doing

>>50391316
This is correct. Freemasons swear an oath to lie. They swear oaths to allah. They swear oaths to protect their fellow masons. That's why politician blame games are all fake and gay. There is no red team vs blue team. Only God vs the devil and they picked the devil.

>>50386994
they think of germanics as amaleks, and white europeans in general as decendants of esau

some jews think they are commanded by god to exterminate amalek in particular, but really all decendants of esau so all europeans

>>50387227
Amalek is descendant of Esau. Not all of Esau is to be destroyed, just Amalek. Because Amalek attacked Israel during their exodus out of Egypt.

Modern jews use "amalek" to justify their satanic anti white anti God behaviour.

>>50391305
Well, yes and no. YHWH is the God of our material realm. Lucifer is the duality of YHWH. There is a higher almighty source.

>>50385688
I think that was just propaganda started by Philip IV as a pretence to have them all arrested and killed because he owed them a massive amount of money. He had the Pope on his side too and had them accused of devil worship as well. History is written by the victors after all..

>>50391340
The problem with this is if you actually read the Old Testament you can see the modern jews (khazars) are lying satanic worshipped scum. Amalek is wiped out by King Saul. God did not say to destroy Esau, only Amalek.
>>50391347
>Freemason detected
Jesus is the Lord. Lucifer is the devil.

>>50391358
the khazar stuff is a red herring, a false argument seeded by jews to make people not attack actual judaism

>>50385688
>>50391355
Templars and jesuits weren't always freemasons. It's typical khazar satanic behaviour to slowly infiltrate organisations over time and rewrite history to their lying.

>>50385071
Interesting

>>50391367
Perhaps. Dna tests show that modern jews are Khazars and not hebrews/semites.
>Them that say they are jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

>>50391386
>Perhaps. Dna tests show that modern jews are Khazars and not hebrews/semites.
they show just the opposite

>Them that say they are jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
it's speaking about talmudic jews, which all jews are except the karaites, which are about 40000, there are about 16 million jews in the world. all of them except for the karaites, which are not even really seen as jews by the other jews, are talmudists.

>>50385372
Seems like the Masons are entirely driven by profits if they're willing to play both sides of the coin.
I couldn't imagine a group with upstanding virtues and morals actively go against everything they stand for.

>>50391428
Doubt. The modern theory is that most "jews" are khazars turks with edomite dna. It's biblical that the edomites moved into judah during the rein of King John. King herold during the time of Christ was an illegitimate edomite king, which is why he wanted to have Jesus murdered. He feared the true king.

And most jews or rather Israel, the tribe of judah did convert to Christ's new covenant. It was the tulmudic edomite rabbis who were SEETHING over Jesus.

>>50385772
>>50385693
Jews own Hollywood especially Ashkenazi Hungarian Jews you idiot. Most Masons are goyim

>>50391504
Masonic lodges are the most jewified organizations

>>50391428
According to secular historians, two thirds of the Jews converted to Christianity the first two hundred years after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The rest of the Jews are bitter and hateful enemies of Jesus Christ, they are now Satan's own people.

I'm not saying all modern jews are khazars. The real jews who reject Christ are worse off because they new God and rejected him.

>>50391498
the british israelism stuff is fanfiction just like the talmud. the rabbis wanted to murder jesus because he said the talmud was manmade bullshit.

>>50391563
the khazars were a people living in ukraine, crimea, kazakstan. in like the 8th century their ruling class decided to convert to judaism. later on they converted to eastern christian orthodoxy and islam

it's a total red herring, jews are planting this bullshit about blaming khazars so that they will never be blamed "the real jews arent evil it's the evil khazars", just another bullshit controlled opposition idea

there are millions of good goy MIGA worshippers out there who love trump and love israel but blame all the bad things jews do on "the khazars". "da real jews are good, it's da evil khazars". wake up

>>50391563
>The real jews who reject Christ are worse off because they new God and rejected him.
(talmudic) judaism is the enemy, which is 99.8% of those who call themselves jewish

>>50391579
I dont believe in british israelism. It's a known fact that only the tribe of judah remained. As God had promised to David.
>>50391183
I forgot to mention. Freemasonry used to be called The mysterious power.
>>50391628
Both Jews are jews anon. The Rothschilds are khazars. That's a fact.
>>50391643
Yes. But im saying the khazar jews still follow the tulmud.

https://youtu.be/VQBA_WdLg3s

>>50386110

>>50391690
>The Rothschilds are khazars. That's a fact
prove it

>Yes. But im saying the khazar jews still follow the tulmud.
khazar jews barely exist

>>50392089
>The findings of the study, published today (Wednesday 20 April 2016) in Genome Biology and Evolution, led researchers to believe that towards the end of the first millennium, Ashkenazic Jews may have relocated to Khazaria before moving into Europe half a millennium later after the fall of the Khazarian Empire, and during a time when the international trading networks collapsed.

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/dna-sat-nav-uncovers-ancient-ashkenaz-1.569403

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>>50392266
Thanks for proving my point, Turkey was never a part of Khazarian land.

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>>50392266
>>The findings of the study, published today (Wednesday 20 April 2016) in Genome Biology and Evolution, led researchers to believe that towards the end of the first millennium, Ashkenazic Jews may have relocated to Khazaria before moving into Europe half a millennium later after the fall of the Khazarian Empire, and during a time when the international trading networks collapsed.
Also this makes no sense in regards to your nonsense theory. Your theory says that khazar jews exist, and that they are fake jews because they are not from the seed of the real jews. But the study you posted says that the "real jews" went into khazaria for a bit, then moved towards western europe. How are they fake jews then in your definition? That just means they were "real jews" who lived in khazaria for a while. Whatever way you slice it it just shows the whole "khazarians are the fake jews and they are the ones who run everything, real jews are innocent" is fake BS

>>50392369
>By the 8th century the words “Jew” and “merchant” were practically synonymous, and it was around this time that Ashkenazic Jews began relocating from ancient Ashkenaz to the Khazar Empire to expand their mercantile operations.

>This Jewish migration led to some of the Turkic Khazar rulers and numerous eastern Slavs living within the Khazar Empire to convert to Judaism so they didn’t miss out on the lucrative Silk Road trade between Germany and China.

>But the demise of Khazaria due to continued invasions and finally the Black Death devastated this last Jewish Empire of Khazaria. This led to the Ashkenazic Jews splitting into two groups – some remaining in the Caucasus and others migrating into eastern Europe and Germany.

https://theconversation.com/uncovering-ancient-ashkenaz-the-birthplace-of-yiddish-speakers-58355

>>50392510
this is silly philosemitism. u think the rulers came with the rest of them into eastern europe? if anything they intermarried. just like jews have intermarried with others before.

this whole theory is made up so you can feel ok about opposing jewry while still worshipping jewry, and saying that all bad jews are fake jews. they created it

>>50392580
I'm not a christian. I don't believe in the bible. Jews invented their own history.

>Scholarly re-examination of the Jews' version of their history. Author cites sources that the Jewish historical narrative borrowed heavily from the myths of previous cultures, such as those of Babylonia, Sumer and Egypt. According to the anonymous author, in adopting the myths, the Jews distorted the original stories confusing the names of gods and timelines of rulers, and mistook the location of geographical sites, such as Mount Zion.

Pic related.

>>50391358
I'm not a Freemason, I just believe that Christianity is fundamentally flawed and the Bible was edited for nefarious purposes during its canonization. Jesus was trained in Gnosticism and Zoroastrianism, which I believe to be the closest things to the truth and supplies answers to all the holes that were edited out of the Bible.

>>50385627
>anyone have the screencap of the larp
yeah I got you bro >>>/x/

>>50385206
> 'enlightened'
> spends 18 hours a day pooosting on a childrens cartoon forum
its weird how that always happens with losers on here!

>>50387227
Nigger I have friends that are free masons and have read more on the occult/meditated more than anyone on this board. You don’t get magic powers for fucking little kids shit doesn’t work that way. I def believe there are blackmail pedophile rings but the satanic magic wizard elites that can read your minds cuz they are baby dicks is retarded /Pol/cel COOOOOONSPIRACY bullshit to muddy the waters and make people that actually question the ruling class get lumped in with you regarded QOOMERS

>>50393190
>is retarded /Pol/cel COOOOOONSPIRACY bullshit
>/pol/cel
read: glownigger