/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50375425
Nah, 10pm to 6am is the fucking soul killer, at least you could head to the bar after work when the fun starts.

>>50375425
No its kino because you get to snooze and wake up at noon

>wagies
>soul
kek

>>50375425
Is this once upon a time in america? Shit was brutal

>>50375560
Back when I worked in university IT I met the guys coming off of 3rd shift in the morning. Those dudes almost universally had given up on life.

>>50375560
agreed any night shift is the killer, evening sucks but you still will get 1 or 2 nights a week off. Overnight just fucks you for at least a day after you finish while you adjust back to normal

>>50375425
>>50375560
Humans didn't evolve to work shifts, it fucking kills your soul. You're supposed to work when you feel like it (hungry, need shelter, etc.). In fact, work shouldn't feel dreadful but rather enjoyable. The fact that it feels dreadful is something typical of industrial societies.

>>50375605
Tedpilled

>>50375425
No it's based.
9-5 is a horrible work schedule that discriminates against night owls

>>50375425
Try 7 pm to 3 am.

3PM - 11pm is almost the best shift i can think of. only thing better is 11am-11pm 3x a week with 4 days off

I "work" from 4:30pm to 01am (WFH)
it's comfy in my opinion
i even go out to the restaurant during my shift
the only annoying thing is having to clock out at 1AM but when I'm really tired i just go to sleep and don't do it and nothing happens
but you can't do it everyday

>>50375605
yeah it was such a good time before industrial fertilized tore us from the land innit

>>50376369
>the luddites weren't wrong

>>50375425
Ill have to look for work in about 6 months and im seriously considering 2nd shift because you can wake up and focus on whats important while still refreshed.

One of the best movies in the world, makes you feel like you lived another full life when finishing it

>>50375425
The top image looks so much better. Why do this?

>>50375425
2:30 am to 2:30 pm made me want to kill myself.
>>50376793
what movie is it?

>>50375560
And thats how you start a terrible, terrible cycle of sleeping until 2pm, work 3pm-11pm, bar 11pm-2am, repeat wagie

>>50375425
>get to sleep in
>miss traffic
>get to go to bed before the sun comes up
It's the best shift

>>50375605
I think I didn't evolve to work at all.

i do 7 on and 7 off. 5 pm to 5 am. Am I the only one that enjoys this?

>>50376894
Bottom is the original

>>50375425
I did this shift for about a year and a half. Its pretty fucking miserable I'll admit. Couldn't be arsed doing anything in the morning before work. All my friends were asleep by the time i got back.

>>50375425
No, the 11:00pm to 7:00am is…

Second shift is cozy because you have all morning to do whatever. I used to go swimming at a big lake before work when I worked 2nd. It made it feel like I was on vacation.

>>50375425
It's the perfect schedule for the club/pub addict

>>50377270
only nights? oof thats rough for the 7 days on.
I do a 5-5-4 roster 6-6 with 2-3 days into 2-3 nights each swing and works real nice for me. I used to do 5 nights in a row and that was a killer, the swing felt like it took way longer than it did

>>50375425
8pm to 4am and 4am to noon are the worst shifts I’ve worked

>>50377541
working after 12PM-01AM is a nightmare
but working before 10AM is shit too

>>50375425
>tfw 7am-3pm chad

>>50377941
awful
kys

>>50375425
yes
Ive been working 3-11pm for 2 years now.
I dont have any friends anymore. I try to make plans, to no avail, everyone is on a different schedule.
Thankfully I had a gf before I started this shift, but shes gonna leave me if I keep working there. I can tell

>>50377527
option to rotate but a single mom asked me to work her nights for her. I love not dealing with day office politics and chill

>>50377994
what a simp
wow

>>50377965
Oh and I don't have to work during the winter AND also get unemployment

>>50375560
if you do sunday - thursday then youll be up friday saturday nights in the bar. 9am to 5pm is the real soul killer

>>50377994
yeah fair enough, I find when im on a full night shift sleep pattern I end up going full degen doing literally nothing for days. Its cool for a while but weeks really fly when doing that
>>50378010
kek

>>50375576
i work 3pm 11pm alot of times but still wake up around 7

>>50375425
Fuck no. You don't have to wake up to an alarm and everything is open. Use your free time before work and head straight to bed after work.

>>50376057
extremely based thats how I role

sunday pays 2x too so you get 3x12+1x12=48 hours while being off for 4 days

>>50377006
kek, he doesn't know what movie it is

>>50375605
>le uncle Ted man
>is a neet virgin living with his parents and spends 12 hours a day shitposting or playing video games
Many such cases

>>50378161
Very useful. Now answer the question

>>50375425
nah i work 3-11 and it's p comfy
nobody around but coworkers, and i only really see them at clock-in and when i want to
get to chat up the nice pretty office ladies when they're getting ready to go home (everyone's a little more chipper near clock-out)
occasionally have events to manage, but i mostly just stay out of the way except for setup/teardown when everyone but coworkers aren't around

worst part is trying to get a sleep schedule down to wake up in the AM to get things done during daylight hours.

>>50375560
I worked night shift at a grocery store

that was the worst 4 months of my life, I dont even remember being alive

Respect nightshift workers man, they keep the nation running in the background

>>50377941
based mower jockey

you on the ZT or you stuck weed eatin'?

>>50375605
humans evolved to adapt, dummy

>>50378314
concrete actually

>>50378233
Once Upon a Time in America

Work however the fuck. Kill your soul and buy matic. Eventually you will redeem yourself

>>50376057
what type of jobs get 11-11 on 4 day weeks?
>t.m-f 8-5 manufacturingfag

>>50378523
Maybe Fire or Medical

which one is supposed to be better?
t. zoomer

I think it's the worst, yeah
>Don't see the sun unless you wake up way before work then have to work after doing "fun" things which is difficult
>Makes windows of time to do things like appointments, renewing license, going to banks, barbers etc. super gay
>Hard to see family/friends if they're on normal schedules

>>50375560
This , nothing crushes souls faster than working graveyard shift, personally I love working a regualr ass night shift.

>>50375425

It's a decent shift if you have your own vehicle and travel time is less than an hour.

5 - 5.30 Mon - Friday, 5-11 Saturday.
T; machinist.

>>50375425
Fixed.

>>50375425
Love that film. Not enough rape scenes though.

I could've worked as a trucking dispatcher / broker for an American company earning some 2.5k$ per month (Eastern Europe)

The shift was 14-23, six days per week.

I decided to work as a literary translator for 700 euros per month and I also make 200-300 dollars writing press releases and articles on Upwork. I work from ten in the morning to five with zero communication with anyone by voice, then I go out and in the evening I either read or scroll through online writing jobs a bit.

I'm an introvert. I am barely able to save anything but I don't feel as if my life is flying by.

>>50378661
the one that lets you off in time for more of the stuff you want to do while taking up less of the time to do the things you have to do

hope that helps

>>50375605
>In fact, work shouldn't feel dreadful but rather enjoyable

It's dreadful because most people don't like what they do. We choose jobs that pay the best so in thoery we can afford things that we need/like.

Problem is where devote way to much time and energy making money instead of doing what we want and that is why it sucks. On the other hand,if everybody stop working for money society halts.

After all,somebody has the go out at night to fix those cables so the light comes back during a storm.

Honestly we the only solution is return to a simpler life style. Small piece of land, planting you vegetables, raising cows,pigs,chickens,etc...

You can still have energy and internet thanks to solar panels and shit like starlink but big city lifestyle is cancer.

>>50380486
>Small piece of land, planting you vegetables, raising cows,pigs,chickens,etc...


Completely untenable

>>50378354
nice
suppose it makes sense to get the concrete work started as soon as municipal code allows you to have machines running

>>50375560
Worked 11-7AM my first job. Those years of my life every memory feels like it was night, even on days off. The extra money is not worth the psychological effects, I became suicidal near the end. I check in on friends that have to work nights every once in awhile to make sure they're okay, fuck that shit man.

>>50375605
>evolve
>soul

which one is it anon? atheist monkey people or God's creation with an everlasting soul?

>>50378966
>over 70 hours a week
>nearly half of the whole time, well over half of your waking hours
I hope to god you make like 200k a year anon. If you're working for like 50k you're an actual retard.

>>50375560
The batman shift changes you. Worked loading docks at night for 2 years.
Grad school got me out of that hellhole. People legitimately thought I was insane. I'm still prone to bouts of random silence, I need that piss-yellow light next to my bed wake up, and I have ambient night waterway noises on my phone that I play in traffic.

>>50380486
this would be very easy to do, except the gross domestic product and the power of central banks would plummet. right now they want to force as many people as they can to do work for the paper they are printing (both by making their money lose value quickly, and by using their infinite fiat supply to manipulate the markets when people en masse try to fight their system). that's why consumption is being artificially inflated as much as possible and people who would otherwise be extremely low maintenance and could probably live for a year off a month's worth of work have to work perpetually.

>After all,somebody has the go out at night to fix those cables so the light comes back during a storm.
this is true but the vast majority of people don't need to swap their phone every 2 years. they just do it because they can feel their money will only be worth less later. and ultimately this is the cycle that forces everyone to work. most of that work is not spent on anything sensible, but people are conditioned to spend without "overthinking"

>>50381435
>implying it's not both
the fact that science can't yet prove the existance of soul just shows how far we have yet to go

>>50380486
Most people have never liked what they did. People worked the fields because that is what their station called for. A cobbler's son was a cobbler because that is all he knew, not because he wanted it. Some countries still run on a caste system in which a man born into his life lives the same life his father did and dies in the same ignominy of his forefathers. You attach a noble bearing to it because it is something you do not know, but I can guarantee the peasantry faced the same dilemmas of purpose that we all do today. It is the nature of humanity. One day when technological innovation has obviated the need for the vastest majority of jobs and much of humanity exists in a state of languish we will still have those same feelings. Part of what separates us from beasts is our ability to ponder, and to question why we do what we do.

Now all that said, it is true that most today feel unhappy with where they are. That has more to do with a decrease in standards of living due to economic factors, and is totally understandable. I can say fairly confidently that most of us could bear an otherwise soulless cubicle job for the rest of their lives if they were making a quarter of a million a year, simply because of the security it would afford. It is not a return to a simple lifestyle that we should strive for, because that is an unattainable goal. The system which enables our society to function is surprisingly precarious, and because we rely on its existence such regressiveness is suicidal and will never come to be, at least not without pure catastrophe. Put simply, since simple life is impossible we must learn to live with the complexities of the modern world. Part of life is coming to terms with that which we cannot have, and appreciating those things which we can have.

>>50381495
On track to hit 90k this year. I’m on my second year of a four year apprenticeship. Expecting a 10%+ compounding raise yearly, so adjusted if I keep this up I’ll be doing alright once I get my journeyman’s.

>>50380486
>if everybody stop working for money society halts.
and everybody will never stop working for money. people would just work and consume a lot less in an economy without forced inflation.

>>50381581
Science never will be able to. It’s like a paladin in wow proving that he’s a computer game. Holy paladin ftw

>>50381435
It can certainly be both. I am an atheist, a former Catholic, yet I believe that the complexities of the world and my being are of possibly divine nature. I struggle to imagine a reality that came to be so vast and empty, yet filled with life and purpose on one small globe, could not have possibly been instituted by some higher power. It is simply that we can perhaps never know the truth of it all. I do hope that in our final moments when we face oblivion that there is some great mover that we meet who explains the mysteries of our lives, but you can't really fault the average man for not vesting faith in one power or another without clear evidence, no?

>>50380173
For some years I worked in dispatch, it's not a bad gig. The only issue you would have is being contacted at all hours by insistent customers looking for their shipments. It can be comfy hanging out with drivers and shooting the shit, and generally management stays out of the way and lets you do your thing because dispatch is more tight-knit. You get to be a family of sorts. It sounds like you're doing well as an introvert, however, so I'm not sure dispatching would have been for you anyway. Hope you make more money in the future anon, translation was one of my dream jobs.

>>50378347
adapt to sucking my cock muahaha

>>50381736
What do you do now? Why didn't you pursue a translating job? Pay too low?

>>50381844
I work at an investment bank speaking with financial advisors, it's a pretty comfy gig and pays well. It can be done remotely and when I do go into the office it has a number of amenities that make the job even better than it already is. Gym, cafeteria, barista, soda machines, tennis courts, all that fun stuff. I gave up on translation both because the pay was too low and my skills weren't up to snuff. If I were fluent then I might have been able to work more content and get a more sizable payout, but to be honest the real thing I wanted to do was work as a corporate liaison interpreting, and that is truly unattainable without years of practice I couldn't get in America. Perhaps someday I will give it another shot, but so far I am comfortable where I am now.

I worked 11:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. for three straight years. I liked it back when I was a loner. But now I have friends and go out to bars and clubs I can't work that late anymore because I'm missing out.

>>50378010
>night shift bad
uhh depends on the profession
some professions night shift is for the leet only, no rules, no dress code, get shit working all that matters

>>50381943
Ah well that explains it. I only have a high school degree and I try to pick mid-level stuff, not anything truly challenging.

i work 4pm to 1am weekdays operating cranes and forklifts. shit is alright, smoke weed, watch kino and play games all night, get to sleep till 2:30. I have a weekend girlfriend I drill as many times as I can before Monday afternoon. plus I come into work high daily.

>>50375560
I loved it because it was quiet and I could be vigilant while others slept. Also allows you to monitor foreign markets.

>>50377977
Fix your live anon & keep your girl

>>50375425
absolutely. fuck that shift

>>50381566
>they just do it because they can feel their money will only be worth less later.
I would bet my life savings that is not why most people pick up the new phone every year. Before corona if I brought up inflation with someone in my age group they had absolutely no idea that it was even happening. Consumerism is a mindset, shoved down our throats via billions in advertising. Buying the latest shit makes you feel good momentarily, and you get to show off your new shit to people which makes you feel good. Spending time with zoomers is especially telling, because they are the biggest consumers I've ever fucking met. I know a zoomer who has picked up and dropped several hobbies this year alone, and with each hobby he instantly bought thousands of dollars worth of stuff for the hobby, only to drop it a month later at the most. They use the idea of hobbies to mask their real favorite hobby: buying shit. If it's a free hobby, you're very unlikely to find zoomers doing it. Go on a hike, if you see a zoomer they have all sorts of expensive clothing and gear that is 100% unnecessary. Sorry for the rant, but since I woke up to consumerism it's made me so sick to witness what the most recent generation is like.

>tfw worked shifts that rotated every week from 9am-5pm, 5pm-1am and 1am-9am for two years straight

>>50383083
>I would bet my life savings that is not why most people pick up the new phone every year
people develop a feel how money is worth less over time. even zoomers know that when they were kids things cost much less. inflationary pressure is not the conscious reason, but it is the real reason for lot of people why they feel like spending their money on stupid shit. obviously there'd be consumption without it, but the negative feedback would be a lot stronger when the zoomer realizes what he could buy now or how much work he could skip for the money he spent on some stupid hobby he ended up dropping after a month. but now it doesn't seem like it was such a bad investment, if he didn't spend his money it'd have inflated away anyways

6pm to 4 am unironically did irreversible damage to my brain and body

>>50383083
>I would bet my life savings that is not why most people pick up the new phone every year
people develop a feel how money is worth less over time. even zoomers know that when they were kids things cost much less. inflationary pressure is not the conscious reason, but it is the real reason for lot of people why they feel like spending their money on stupid shit. obviously there'd be consumption without it, but the negative feedback would be a lot stronger when the zoomer realizes what he could buy now or how much work he could skip for the money he spent on some stupid hobby he ended up dropping after a month some years ago. but now it doesn't seem like it was such a bad investment, if he didn't spend his money it'd have inflated away anyways

>>50378310
Nah, they are usually losers with drug addictions or criminal records.
(used to be one of them)

>>50375605
there was this one girl who was basically hanging on to this mortal coil by a single thread and she started blowing me then I told her to kiss me while she jerked me off onto her chest, and I nutted all over her including one of those cheap-but-looks-fancy gold-colored-cursive-letter necklaces that said "Ted Kaczynski". She told me that she bought it online while drunk, and that she'd forgot she was wearing it. I asked her if I could take a picture but she wouldn't let me. Femanons are even more fucked in the head than Anons, if you'd believe me. And she turned out to be a low-key nightmare even though my dick was hardly-ever harder. Trust no woman. Also I'm drunk. What was I talking about?

>>50375425
I have a compressed work schedule. I work 7AM-4:30PM five days a week on week one and on week two I work 7AM-4:30PM four days only. So it works out I get every other Friday off. I'm on my special Friday off right now

>>50378966
Very based tradie. Good luck with your journeymen (journey man)

>>50375560
thats literally the best shift. you come in to work while the normies sleep, as soon as you get off the stock market opens and you can go home and day trade, then sleep through the afternoon and avoid normies. fuck i miss graveyards.

>>50377941
Same but .mil

>>50375425
I’m on the 2200-0800 schedule and sometimes I work 1600-0800

>>50375425
I use to have that shift DESU, not bad. I was young and I knew i was not going to be there for ever. You create your own reality.

>>50382680
The lady in the picture of my wife ..who left me long ago..I still love her bros, yet i learned to let go.

>>50380602
In a world where Bill Gates owns the most arable in the U.S. and the average person could not do the most rudimentary things that all humans could do until about 1830.
An asteroid strike takes care of the insanely wealthy like Gates and the useless eaters. And humanity is restored.

>>50375560
Yep. But having Lunch at a Restaurant is cushy. And if your SO is on the same schedule from Hospital or Lab work, it's the only schedule you need to maintain a relationship.

>>50381597
Listen I know this is mentioned often-enough to be useless by now. But this post is UNFATHOMLY based, and the dearth of (you)s only testifies to its truth.

>>50381683
>but you can't really fault the average man for not vesting faith in one power or another without clear evidence, no?
After the last 170 years, no. But Darwin and all that followed has been in service of the wealthy elite from the jump.
I left the Catholic Church at 18 and returned at 52, when I stopped believing in the atheist/oligarchic project's categories. Reason is not just for splitting the atom. Men can reason their way to faith. They did all the way back to Thomas Aquinas. I promise you, there will never be a funded "study" that "proves" what is beyond the material universe. Those who profit from a completely material view of existence would never fund such a thing if it were even possible.
I urge you to return, as a project, to great Catholic works of theology. Or simply to the best apologists of the last Century, like Chesterton or Belloc. "The Great Heresies" and "The Servile State" are great starters. The Church is not just what it has devolved into over the last 70 years--it is a remarkable, 1800 year intellectual tradition that modern materialism now wisely uses the tools and tricks of to hold the masses in line in the name of what is good for them--be it child saints (Greta Thuneburg) or impending judgement (Global Climate Change), denial of faith ie, "Christ Deniers" now "Climate Change Deniers" or vestments-adorned priestly authority (lab-coated "scientists" who insist a weak corona virus is worthy of global hysteria). But the deeper stuff-- Augustin, Aquinas, Thomist defense of the human soul, are worth study and are not tricks or tools but profound pathways toward reasoned faith in an immortal soul and loving creator.

I work 3-11 at a psych ward and it's easily the best shift if you don't have kids. You can stay up after your shift is over, get to sleep in if you want and you have time to run errands in the morning before your shift starts. And you can watch the stock market without getting interrupted at work.

>>50383477
Checked n based drunkard

>>50385004
No it isn't
Fat people get into shape.
Drunks get sober.
Even the most degenerate creep can become a moral person.
So too can humanity. It is sick but it can heal. It hurts to recover, to get fit, to learn control to practice virtue and many will resist it. But being human is to be one's master. To be truly capable of "self government." All the rest is fancy slavery.

>>50385192
> fat people get into shape
>Drunks get sober
And schizos like you take meds.

>>50375425
bottom looks superior by a fucking long shot, I hate the fucking redditors on this board with dogshit taste whose dumb fucking midwit eyes & brains have been lobotomized by marvel flicks

>>50385228
>And schizos like you take meds.
Oh get gassed kike.

>>50381597
>Some countries still run on a caste system in which a man born into his life lives the same life his father did and dies in the same ignominy of his forefathers.
i think this comment just clicked in my mind exactly why the indian people have a belief system revolving around reincarnation. sure i understood it was a way for them to live morally and try to better themselves with the hopes of becoming greater in the next life, but only now has it clicked just how connected it is to the fact that life in india was like a railroad track in terms of what you could move around into.

also a very sound post all around anon

>>50385228
>t. Enemy of man

>>50375425
1:30am-2:00pm is

>>50375605
Ya, well , Penicillin and internet
so... ?

>>50375576
yeah but I mean that depends how much time I have after my job, is it remote or do you have to travel? if it's remote it's fine, a few hours to do dumb shit, go to bed at 6am, wake up at 2pm and keep going good, I would try to aim at 4am tho.

>>50381597
Well put, and look at those digits on the time stamp. Very nice, anon.

It's the job, not the shift

QQN A ECOUTE BASSEM CETTE NUIT

11pm-7pm is the ultimate widowmaker

>>50376894
For the extended edition they included several poorly maintained scenes that had abysmal picture quality. Their solution for this was to lower the picture quality for the rest of the film. Wish I were kidding. So you can either watch the theatrical version which is actually nonsensical at points with good PQ or watch the extended version which is closest to what Leone intended with god awful PQ.

>>50379040
someone post the hadena version

>>50375425
>tfw 9am-12am/14am-16am

>>50375425
I did alternating 7am-7pm/7pm-7am for about 2 years, completely fucking shit. So hard to make plans with people and you feel like a zombie.

Week 1 - Mon am, Tue am, Fri PM, Sat PM, Sun pm
Week 2 - wed am, Thu am
Week 3 - mon pm, Tue pm, fri am, sat am, sun am
Week 4 - wed pm, thu pm

Having some days off in the week was nice, but now I'm 9-5 mon-fri and much happier

>>50389886
What movie is it?