/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50363493
yeah

Where will silver be this time next year?

>mfw slurpies

>>50363530

>>50363530
$100/oz
A loaf of bread $50

EIC are doing a restrike of the Gothic Portrait lads.
Effin tempted seeing as I ruined my Royal Mint one by taking it out of the capsule to post it here...

https://www.theeastindiacompany.com/bullion/2022-masterpiece-gothic-victoria-crown-2oz-silver-proof-coin/?

>>50363493
>>50363526

>>50363618
>it has a little old lady on the side that's supposed to have a neat crest

>>50363679
life aint perfect

>>50363639
If it’s all manipulated, would the mints also sell fake silver and gold?

Drink the gay

>>50363814
no gov mint would ever sell fakes

Is it going to keep going lower or should I buy now? Been waiting for a few weeks now while it drops. Gonna drop like 3 grand.

So what's the best gold 1ozt coin for beginning/stacking? Thinking about getting an Austrian 100 corona coin as my first gold, the dual eagle looks pretty cool.

>>50363821
They don't sell the good stuff outside of Barbados. The extreme aged shit is amazing and smooth.

>>50363679
Yeah I also hate the Elizabeth II faces. A figure of a meaningless, neutered monarchy that stands for nothing, on coins associated with countries that have been independent for decades.

>>50363853
>So what's the best gold 1ozt coin for beginning/stacking
Sort by: Cheapest

am I going fucking insane here? 1 oz of gold presently costs €1709 roughly. There are 28.3495 grams in an ounce. Thus, the price per gram should be 1709/28.3495=€60.28. However the live euro price is €54.93 atm. What is going on? Euro is also equal to the dollar now so it's not a case of me fucking up some conversion there

>>50363876
nice bait
I'll bite, fuck it, I'm going to bed anyway.
1 troy ounce = 31.1 grams

>>50363898
ah that's it. fuck, I should be going to sleep too

>>50363876
Bastard bitch
>>50363862
I mix it with this shit

>>50363932
If you get the stuff I'm talking about you don't need to mix it with anything. Tastes almost like candy.

>>50363839
Nobody really knows for sure. My gut tells me it'll stabilize soon but it's your call chief. I haven't bought any myself because unfortunately I'm in-between banks right now and it's kind of a clusterfuck. Otherwise I'd totally buy.

I fucking hate that I can’t touch these

New to precious metal investments. What is the best thing to buy? I'm talking about the bar or the coin or what? When looking at the Bullion Dealers there's so many different bars with different manufacturers just don't know what to get.

>>50364019
buy a gold piece you can touch, or buy an extra one and crack it open.

>>50364019
>I fucking hate that I can’t touch these
You can. You're just to much of a pussy to do the needful.

>>50364019
Get a 1g to abuse.

>>50363530
>Where will silver be this time next year?

Im bouta commit the big slurp.

>>50364157
Do it pussy

>>50363853
>>50363853
The engravings on the outer rim are pretty kino as well. They look nice when you have a stack of them. Can't do better than 1% premium

>>50363872
>neutered monarchy that stands for nothing
Anon, that's not true.

>>50364157

>>50364157
Seems like a highly illiquid asset. 10 10oz bars would be better imo.

>>50363853
For me, it's the Britannia. The best bullion coin.
>symbolism
>iconography
>security features
>four 9s
>lowest premiums

>>50364026
I recommend 1oz gold coins.

>>50364195
>10 10oz bars would be better imo
Why pay the extra premium? I do kilos myself, but would do 100 ouncers if I could afford them.

>>50363839
You could average in. A kilo every other week.

Blogposting about this shiny. The only one I have currently. 1915 1 Austrian Ducat if the date is correct. I used to 'collect' coins as a child. Only ever having used euros, whenever I saw a coin that looked remotely foreign I 'collected' it. Several years later down the line I decided to actually look through my collection. Every single coin I had collected was a variant of the British Pound except for this one. I looked closer at it and noticed the Habsburg eagle (played enough CK2 and read up enough on wiki by then to recognise the double headed eagle). And well boom, I was in ownership of a hundred year old gold coin. Where the fuck did I find it? It shall be a mystery ever more. However, I love this lil nigga.

Thank you for reading :)

>>50363873
Yes and no. If it’s your first ounce and you’re a poorfag that had to hustle to get that fiat, what’s an extra bit of premium to make that first ounce special? Beyond that, buffaloes are usually the cheapest no matter what you get.

>>50364290
>A kilo every other week.
I get paid biweekly.
Tomorrow's payday bitches!

>>50364284
Because you don't have as high a risk of having a lead core in your 10oz bar. If you want something high value in a single bar, just get gold. Unless you think silver is going to its 1/8 price ratio with gold. I've been stacking silver for almost 15 years and prior to a full blown collapse I don't see it.

>>50364323

>>50364323
Nice.

>>50363493
I fucking love cheapies, keep it coming shlomo

Deal or no deal??

>>50364362
>having a lead core
How likely is this to be the case buying from a reputable bullion dealer? Or are you talking about someone bringing this up if they were to buy it from you?

>>50364386
You fuckers better just advise me and not take it

>>50364386
about 120 dollars too much kek

>>50364400
It’s more about selling it and having to deal with paranoid buyers

>>50364323
I'm pretty sure that's a restrike, which isn't terrible - you still have gold. The 100 Coronas for example are 1915 but most likely restruck around 1975
https://coinsweekly.com/bullion-coins-part-7-the-ducat/

Has anyone bought these turkroach bars before? They’re dirt cheap but I don’t know if I could bring myself to buy roach silver
https://monumentmetals.com/igr-10-oz-cast-silver-bar.html

Buy Yahweh's money, goys! Glory to Rabbi Yeshua! Silver ends the frogs--uhh, feds!

>>50364418
Silver/Melting point
1,763°F
Lead/Melting point
621.5°F

Seems like that would make an awful messy bar if attempted.

>>50364437
>roach silver

>>50364400
There’s a certain ratio of tin and lead that has the exact same density as silver, so if a bullion dealer doesn’t X-ray each individual 100 ounce bar there’s a chance you could get jewed

>>50364491

>>50364426
>The 100 Coronas
Call me a shizo but just today I've seen this coin mentioned like thrice, never having seen it mentioned before, and additionally, I also stumbled across a single 100 corona going for €1724, not even 1% above spot, on a supposedly reputable website. Would almost pull the trigger too, only I've just bought a silver coin from them to see if they're not scam artists and it's meant to arrive in like 5 days.

>>50364531
I've brought it up a couple times personally, I was surprised to see someone else as well. I literally have a cart ready for check out with 6 in it for $10,250 ($1709ea). Might pull the trigger.

Here's more on your Ducat
The Gold Austrian Ducat is one of the worlds oldest and purest bullion coins, containing 98% gold content (23-karat). This coin is dated 1915, but was re-struck much later - it should therefore be considered as a bullion coin, rather than a numismatic collectors piece. It is still a remarkable coin however, with a thickness of around .7mm. Franz Joseph I features on the obverse of the coin, with the coat of arms of Austria and a double-headed Imperial Eagle on the reverse.

How much are these worth? Not looking to sell, just curious.

https://www.apmex.com/product/40027/1-oz-silver-round-bull-gold-is-money

I bought several hundred oz of these because they were the closest to spot back when they were on apmex.

>>50364579
>I literally have a cart ready for check out with 6 in it for $10,250 ($1709ea). Might pull the trigger.
Oh nice. Well, it's not so much the coin itself I doubt but the vendor. Celtic Gold is the name, they have a single exemplar of the 100 Corona and supposedly have a near flawless track record in terms of reviews. However, in the past 3 days, 2 reviews claimed no package delivered, and at least a few of their reviews on ebays are duplicates.
What are the sort of go to websites for buying gold in Europe? I do want to buy my mystery shiny some frens in the next few days? I know of Bullion By Post, but I've heard less than stellar things about them

>>50364466
Was well known occurrence when I started stacking back in 2008. Engelhard with lead core was famous. 100 oz bar. The bigger the bar the easier it was to do. Most people would say not to go bigger than 10oz on silver.

Fakes can be done on anything, but it's harder the smaller you go.

>>50364386
>Phillies
Don't buy secondhand coins with flat edges, they're virtually guaranteed to be shaven down.

>>50363563
This

Give me some daughter names for my next kid

No hebrew origin names

>>50364885
Maria Theresia

>>50364715
Well, I need two more kilos to complete my set of five. One of which I'll be ordering tomorrow. After that I'll be doing 5 x 10oz bars biweekly and Scottsdale deals when they happen. Thanks for the heads up fren.

>>50364885

will price of silver go up or down during a food shortage next year?

>>50364885
Derek

>>50364885
Elizabeth, Cassandra, Anastasia, Tatiana, Victoria, Catherine, Isabella, or Maria.

>>50364885
Mercedes or Cinnamon. She'll probably end up on the pole anyway. Might as well have the name to go with the profession.

>>50364440
How is telaviv?

>>50364924
Maria is a kike name, I like Theresa don't think wife does

>>50364947
Ya I know but what can I do

>>50364995
Based list, already have a couple daughters based on those names

Fug I want it

>>50365068
>Maria is a kike name
>posts brown hand
Lol, lmao even

>>50364995
Elizabeth is a Hebrew name, the form being Elisheva. You'd be surprised at how many names have Hebrew origins.

>>50365093
It's just a shitty camera anon I am whitr beyond belief

>>50365129
>You'd be surprised at how many names have Hebrew origins.
This is true but there are also many that have multiple origins but the Google kikes hide anything but the Hebrew story

>>50364885
Charlotte, Ophelia, Alexandrine, Amalie, Patricia, Christina, Caroline, Henrietta
>>50365068
>Maria is a kike name
It is, but Maria Theresia is the name of the Holy Roman Empress who kicked the Jews out if her domains.

Now THIS is a deal

>>50364948
Up. Commodities are down right now because of a dollar pump. Death and starvation next year fren.

>>50365187
Did you get the Ruble from oldsilver.ru? I just saw that he had to shut down his website because of gayto sanctions

>>50365068
>>50365187
>>50364885
Niggerhead, Nappyhead, Shithead, Roastie, Buntcunt.

Just going through some of the heirloom silver Canada dollars I have, as one does. The centennial goose gas about a 15 degree dive. Not enough to qualify for the 1000 dollar numi premium but nifty nonetheless.

>>50365199
>In 1777, she wrote of the Jews: "I know of no greater plague than this race, which on account of its deceit, usury and avarice is driving my subjects into beggary. Therefore as far as possible, the Jews are to be kept away and avoided."
Holy fuckin based

>>50365205
>Weiners

>>50365261
Yah pre-putin price hike
I was going to order more but goypal shut down transactions

>>50364885
Niggarius.

>>50363853
Unless you’re living in Europe, don’t. Get an eagle, buffalo, maple, or krug.

>>50364628
You fell for the low premium generic round meme. It’s ok. All new stackers fall for it. Hope you learned to stack more liquid/high demand rounds since.

Best gold coin for foondling?
I want a coin I can flip around when I'm fidgeting

>>50365711
Corona, Krug, or AGE

I'm fondling a corona now it's the larger, but I fondle a Krug sometimes too

>>50365705
All anyone cares about is spot, nigger.

>>50365705
Government minted coins are gay and defeat the entire point of stacking silver, you will never get a premium back when selling any silver except ASE’s and junk silver which are stupidly overpriced

>>50365760
Numisniggers truly are a plague

can anyone recommend me a good mini safe for storing bullion and cash?

>>50365742
Anything cheaper and flatter?
I want something the same diameter or more but less than an ounce.

>>50365807
Just get a rifle sized gun safe at walmart or wherever is cheapest.

>>50365916
I didn't ask for the cheapest, I asked for what was the best for valuables.

>>50365949
And I answered. A gun safe is the best. Bolt it into the ground and forget it.

>>50363872
>Yeah I also hate the Elizabeth II faces.
THE FUCK YOU SAY M8?

>>50365807
Why not just put a box in your rafters and nail some boards over the cubby or something like that? Hidden can be better than locked away - safes can be cracked

wish I never asked

>>50365979
Calm down Piers Morgan
Nice beardie btw

>>50365990
You sound like a dumb urbanite who couldn't defend his stack if he wanted to.

What do you guys think caused the insane spot price plunge today? Think it's going to go even lower tomorrow? Sub-$18 silver would be absolutely delicious to buy up.

>>50365807
>>50365916
>>50365949
>>50365966
>>50365980
>>50365990
>>50366016
I Kekked

>>50365823
>Anything cheaper and flatter?

You want a 1915 restrike of the 4 Ducat, .4438oz of gold but only .7mm thick, so it's a huge 40mm wide

>>50366031
>What do you guys think caused the insane spot price plunge today?
>tfw
I dreamt silver spot price went down to 14 dollars last month, I guess at this rate dreams really would come true huh anons?

>>50364362
I'm with you on liquidity man. I'd go with 10s too. You can have all the silver you want but if no one will buy then what's the point

>>50366154
>40 mm
What the fuck? That's almost as wide as an American Silver eagle, an already wide coin.

>>50363493
Reminder that platinum would be $5k an ounce at smelly featherweight silver looking metal's market cap
Reminder that platinum would be $50k an ounce at that still comparatively lightweight gold colored metal's market cap

>>50366573
Actually what the fuck
>Ctrl+F platinum
>2 results found in my fucking shit post
Are you guys actually retarded or intentionally misleading
Any kind of precious metal paradigm shifts will see the actual rarer ones supplant the old traditionalist ones in return, what the fuck is wrong with you fucks
I'm out

>>50366573
>>50366624
Platinum is a meme. It is a true commodity, not money. It is angrily volatile. It is not an investment metal.

Really hoping not rug, but if rug I understand and no hurt feelings - someday I'll get get one.

>>50366624
>I'm out

good riddance fag

>>50366031
OMG
another 10 am dump

just like every other time, massive sell offs to slam it.

>>50366649
Everything is a meme until it's not. People will continually recognize it's value relative to gold more and more as they get educated on a sub-200 year old metal.
The kids are being indoctrinated to value it above gold in all of their videogames and that's how you change society's view on something in 20 years.
I'm bullish on platinum and there's nothing any of you pmg guys can do to stop me. But I am out now this place feels crusty.
I have $400k in LINK too
Captcha 0KRAP

>>50364067
imagine not having a fondle piece

>>50366624
>Any kind of precious metal paradigm shifts will see the actual rarer ones supplant the old traditionalist ones in return, what the fuck is wrong with you fucks
If anything is going to do a paradigm shift, it's going to be something like zinc or copper, which is nearly depleted but was once plentiful. There are only a couple billion living in first world conditions, if the other 6 billion start wiring and plumbing their mud huts with copper it's going to be in a lot higher demand than supply.
I'm betting on silver because kikes are mad at me for buying it.
You're betting on platinum because it's rarer and makes /pmg/ butthurt.
Goldbugs are betting on gold because they get taxed on anything else because yurop is gay.
We're all betting on precious metals we don't need to sperg out at each other, we can save that for crypto niggers.

got to see a friend’s collection today. few items stuck out to me. thought this trade dollar was interesting.

>>50364885
Lysithea, name her after a moon.

>>50366811

>>50366768
>i have shitcoins
lol
lmao

>>50366854
had some old ass notes too

>>50365327
I second Maria I like the name, still not as good as Lysithea tho.

>>50366811
>>50366854
Very cool trade dollar.
>>50366893
That's old money. Makes me think the trade dollar is legitimate.

>>50366786
>fondle piece

>>50366786
No I dont want to imagine such a thing

>>50365626
Tacitus what the fuck

>>50366010
Thanks. She's protecting her fellow reptile.
>>50364885
>daughter
Let her adopted parents name her
>>50364019
Why would you not? Even my capsuled rounds get touched. Touching it is half the fun. Tf u do to it? Just stare at it? Touch it nigger.
>>50365807
Mason jar
Bury it
Another jar
Bury it somewhere else
Also hide money in furniture or appliances. No need for safes.

Why didn’t you guys listen to the milkshake theory? Now your shinny rocks are worthless.

>>50365205
I never even heard of them.
Hey - if any of you are looking for the rocker box (2nd in series) from Canada, they have them at a great price - 1863.

>>50367068
that’s why you have coins and cash dork

>>50366946
excellent dog

>>50363530
Single digits silver will be around $10 an ounce
dubs silver will break $30 dollars
trips silver will break $70 dollars
quads silver will break $150 dollars
quints+ silver will be $200 dollars an ounce, gold will be $6000+ an ounce, plat will be $3300+ an ounce, and palladium will be more or less going up as usually desu

>>50366768
enough with the platinum shilling
just go away
no, it's not going to suddenly moon to $10,000 an ounce
funny how people think silver mooning is retarded but all these platinum shills are super serious about their gay metal

>>50367068
Other major powers are beginning to denominate key asset classes - like oil - in other foreign currencies. Once that picks up speed, dollar milkshake system (not even a theory really) goes belly up. It only works so long as oil is traded in USD, creating the demand needed for a single fiat reserve dollar milkshake system

>>50363493
Fucking silver. It’s going back to 14, isn’t it? And that’s why everyone calls it poor man’s gold. Only poor retards get it.

>>50367441
You don’t understand metals

>>50364885
How bout Fredricka, it means peaceful ruler.

What's the opinions on mining stocks? I'm all about the physical but looks like junior stocks like Gayhorse are damn cheap right now.

>>50367463
I understand enough to hold nickels.

>>50363340
this keyboard needs correction...

>>50363839
Look at it this way - if it does go down to $15 or $10 an ounce in this economy, it not only means you should buy more, but that something is very seriously wrong with the economy for it to be going that low with the state of everything right now.

>>50366656
Even the Apus resales are affected by the recession I guess...

>>50367593
>Where's my bog...graph?

>>50367593
I think the simpler boring answer is that everyone who wanted one has one, and the only ones being sold now are higher numbered apus.
I wonder what an apu in the double digits would be worth.

>>50367614
Wolf Girl seems to be finally doing well.

PFMse8fe

>>50367652
Wolf girl is more rare and no one wants to sell. I only got interested after I listened to the light novel on a road trip and realized without the waifu faggotry it's just a story about jews jewing jews and is extremely based.

>>50367645
I'm more curious what an Apu trips would be worth, there hasn't been a single trips listed on eBay nor offered for private sale that I've seen.

>>50367693
It really is the /pmg/ anime. It's the only show I can think of that even mentions silver devaluation.

>>50367693
>I didn't even like Spice and Wolf when I tried watching 3-4 episodes
>still not getting rid of my Holocoin because it was fun watching the process of it getting made here

>>50367815
I'm still trying to plow through the comic.

>>50367513
>today /pmg/ got visited by kyle bass

>>50368101
>that cameo

>>50363853
Krug is best, lowest premiums. Avoid maples. Too soft. Eagle is good too but they cost more in my exp

>>50364121
For the keks. Too good not to.

>>50364885
Those are not a man's hands. You might have penis, but you are soft.

>>50368547

>>50364885
Aura

>>50367652
Now I almost feel bad for selling 9 at the very beginning, oh well.

In Argentina, a businessman tried to travel by plane from Buenos Aires to Mendoza, and before he boarded the plane, the x-ray scanners detected a pouch he had, which contained 107 gold coins. He was detained and questioned by the police, he explained he had traded a former car of his for those coins, but the police "didn't believe him", and seized all the coins. The traveler was given AR$10,000 for expenses and to return, and no charges were filed against him. The total seized was the 107 coins and various checks he had with him among his posessions.

https://youtu.be/_hMW87v-cis?list=PLTjlhbvoremwZiYXnObaNodjGM67a6rZD

>>50368792
Fuck the police and don't go anywhere you can't drive, lesson learned

Soon gold will be cheap enough for me to chug it in colloidal form on a daily basis

>>50364885
Alice

>>50368547
>the beginning of this year I could buy 2-4 ounces of silver with $100 dollars not including shipping
>next year I might be able to buy 5-10 silver with $100 including shipping
Dare I say based?
Sounds like a massive fucking win to me lads amirite?

>>50368792
fucking disgusting

I bought another kilo bar and some Pegasus coins today. I love cheap silver.

>>50369081
>I love cheap silver.
who honestly doesn't desu :)

>>50368826
>>50369035
Watching that video made me ponder what I'd do if I was in the situation of that man. How I'd feel if the gov seized my coins collection.
Something special about physical assets as opposed to a number on a screen, is that you have a memory of acquiring it, there is a story behind it. A story that most likely recalls a happy day when you got it, the sacrifice or effort you put into getting it, etc. To have that taken away in an instant, just like that. Also, how disrespectful it is that he wasn't even found guilty of anything illegal, and he was given pocket change to return. As if saying "here, take a bus back to where you came from, and forget anything happen."
I don't know what that would do to me. It'd take me to a very dark place, that's for sure.

>>50368792
why wouldn't he just send most of these to himself by mail and keep a couple in his wallet

>>50369263
ive always thought of what i would do to.
and i guess i would do what any other cornered animal will do.
only i would be sure to get the officers arresting me.
gotta discourage the rest of the foot soldiers.

>>50369263
i talked to a chinese chick in vancouver that said her cousin was driving in the states with 100k in cash and the police pulled her over and seized it.

Anyone restructuring portfolio to invest more in PMs?

PM's are just going to tank even more since with the recent numbers it is guaranteed the fed is going to hike rates even more.

Nobody will be buying houses, and nobody will be buying cars unless you're buying your hood hellcat for 27% apr and 15k markup on carvana for your youtube career.

>>50369422
im a degenerate with over 50% in pm
why?
i simply cannot stop slurping

>>50369522
I'm planning on selling some MFs to buy gold and silver. I'm only worried about cgt on selling mfs and premiums on buying pms. Tax is a sick joke on poor people like me anon.

>>50369507
People are pawning their gold as well as Russia selling a fuck ton on the global market (see July 4th - 6th) which is adding to the market. This is good for you to buy more gold because the money printers are going to ramp up come winter as well as countries dumping their US dollar reserved currency.

>>50369548
my brother, i agree, i hate the anti christ and the usury jew
as another poorfag i find going every week or fortnight and buying something physical helps me
problem is, is i know have a crippling LCS addiction
what do

>inflation reaching multi-decade highs
>gold price goes down

>>50369601
What is LCS? I'm a new fag to pmg.

>>50365261
I check oldsilver every day in the hopes its back online.

>>50369737
local coin shop/supplier

>my shrekels are finally in the mail
hype
>>50369661
so buy gold then

>>50364531
You know 100 corona is not 1 oz but something like 0,98 oz gold

>>50364924
She is even worse hag than lizard, but back side is cool

>>50369797
I wish we had that here. We have no coins here, only rounds bars and jewellery.

>>50369411
You have to declare EVERYTHING when you're crossing a border. I had 60k in PMs when I was hopping the border and they only asked me why I was taking it, I told them because I didn't want to leave it unattended at home and it was good enough for them.

>>50370007
No, he's referring to US police, not the border.

In the US, having a large amount of cash on you is suspicion of a crime. It's basically unconstitutional to seize money like they do without 'due process', so they actually sue the money itself.

There's a lot of famous cases that are something like "State of New Mexico vs. $50,000 Cash".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._$124,700_in_U.S._Currency

>>50363839
Yes, buy it's never gone be cheaper. At most you might save a dollar an oz but the risk it's much greater that it will gain value again.

>>50364290
True but this is a massive buying opportunity.

>>50369411
A bank transfer would have saved the trouble. Why are people so stupid? Just transfer it to a babk across the border and then take the cash out.

>>50364885
>no hebrew origin names
Molech, astaroth, baal, Muhammed, Golden calf girl

Wake up. Look at the world you live in. Repent

>>50370170
Don't bother with Pagan LARPs imo. They're blind.

Oh boy oh boy! Some if the Rh dealers responded!!!

>695 for kilo bars
>6
>9
>5
Damn that's so cheap.

gonna start bolstering my pm holdings outside of my junk silver and singular 1oz gold

whats a good silver to gold ratio?
suggested sui/make it stacks??

>>50370197
Secure your order and then send us the details. I'll take your dealers sloppy seconds.

>>50370209
Its a scam. "pre-order" is just code word for give us your money and if the material gets cheaper then we send it to you at a healthy profit and if not then we just give you back 90% of what you paid because reasons. Its a rug.

>>50370221
Its still in the works right now. Currently Im broke as fuck and will barely scrape by this month. Towards the end of august I should have enough to make a small order. If all goes well I may consider re-selling on etsy or ebay or what have you. Right now I just need to get my ducks in a row.

I want to spend ~4000 USD. Should I go silver or gold? I want something to hedge against inflation and serve as a store of wealth while the US dollar collapses and a new currency replaces it.

>>50363814
no thats insanely easy to test for

>>50370287
>Should I go silver or gold?
go both. I'm currently at about equal value in silver and gold or around 80:1 to 100:1

>>50370287
Go for silver if you wanna feel like a big shot and get over 100 oz of coins or go for gold if you wanna realize that 4k USD really isn't that much when you only get 2 gold coins.

>>50370346
4k isn't much. But I can't afford to convert all my fiat into pm's. I have an old ass house that needs frequent repairs and I have a family. Got to keep a lot of fiat for daily life.

>>50370320
I already have both. Mostly silver. I just don't want to get a lot of gold only for silver to moon later when the paper price manipulation ends.

>>50370287
Gold seems to hold value better.

>>50369296
Mail isn't very safe here. I have had multiple purchases from Ebay that never found their way to my hands, and just disappeared in the delivery chain

>>50369411
I watched this video once of a veteran that gets pulled over in Muttmerica and he had a bunch of wads of cash on him. The police confiscated it even though the guy had a huge collection of receipts for his money. The reason the polices gives to disregard the tickets was that it looked suspicious because it was in zip bags. Also, another thing they do is that they scan your fiat for traces of cocaine, which almost all fiat notes have, it is said. I also heard that when they pull someone on a search, the cop knows how to entice the dog to become agitated and give that as a cause of justified suspicion for a search.
Also, checked

>>50370046
>In rem forfeiture cases allow property (in this case, $124,700 in cash) to be directly sued by and forfeited to the government, without either just compensation or the possessor (and presumptive owner) being convicted of a crime.

Holy shit, these fucking long nosed sponsored state parasite wagies cannot stop robbing people for one second. It's like a parasite that doesn't care to kill its host

>>50370422
gold is easier to liquidate than silver, should the need arise
I wouldn't count on silver mooning, only that the silver:gold ratio should return to 20:1 or so eventually. the people in here obsessing about muh historical silver price don't realize that the value of all commodities tends to fall in capitalism, including silver

>>50370287
Silver can be liquidated for smaller amounts
Gold is more easily transportable

Those are two things to take into consideration. There are others too, that you'd learn as you continue in your path of PMs. You can't go wrong either way, metals are super cheap right now, and anything you pick will keep its value

>>50367441
Dude, stop. They are called silvertards for a reason. No amount of explaining or facts can change their minds.

I like gold but I always see it as something to buy after I'm rich. Big mistake.

>>50370628
Its on sale, buy now retard.

>>50370641
It could go lower if everything crashes. Why not?

>>50370677
Silly, silver and gold ARE the money. Everything else is just monopoly money that looks fancy enough that everyone agrees to use it. 1oz = 1oz.

>>50363554

So we're all getting a partial refund on the yotsuba coins due to the current price of silver right holo?

>>50371151
No refunds.

Looking to drop about 4€k into precious metals, with perhaps another €250 each month from here on out. How should I split this 4k? Best deals I could find so far were:
>2x 100 Gold AH Kroner for €3,434.00
>22x 1oz Silver Britannia for €556.60
My thinking here is that in the next few months it would be better to buy more silver with each €250 rather than waiting say 4 months and buying 1/2 oz of gold, so I may as well drop the 3.5K now into gold. The premium on the Kroner is just over 1% too so it seems to be the best choice, though I'm not sure on the resell part of things.

Also, I'm a bit confused on how VAT is applied to these sales.I can import silver from Austria via Goldvorsorge into Ireland at a price of €25.30 per 1oz coin, but there is no mention of VAT. By contrast, an Irish website has a VAT-included price of €27.60. The Irish website has a price hike of some 10%, but VAT in Ireland is at 23%. So is it just that the premium on top of the Austrian website is so high as to almost mimic the effect of VAT or is it already included in the price?

So, I just bought a Chris Chan coin from some fellow on eBay and we started talking about meme coins and he pointed to Frensmark, which has funding end for it in 3 days. How come I never heard about this on /biz/? Is this coin from /biz/, or elsewhere? Is this just the fault of terrible /biz/ jannies, killing our fun, while /out/ gets patch threads, or is Frensmark the creation of another chan, which is why I didn't hear of it until 3 days before contributions end?

Also, mintanon coins, holocoin anon coins, chris chan round, Frensmark round...anything else my meme collection is missing?

>>50371372
Bogs?

>>50371372
I would get one but I also dont want to get doxed by the spooks that made it. Remember anon not to trust strangers on the internet.

>>50371395
boards are a mintanon coin. Holocoin Anon has done Holocoin and Yotsuba. MintAnon has done Aputannia, then WAGMI, then Bogs, and upcoming Anime Prospector.

Bros I slurped another 10 ounces, still tempted to buy a Germania kilo tho..

>>50371395
bogs are a mintanon coin. Holocoin Anon has done Holocoin and Yotsuba. MintAnon has done Aputannia, then WAGMI, then Bogs, and upcoming Anime Prospector.

Also, in the Frensmark campaign, I see
>Will be using Osborne Mint (The same used by Mintanon and Holoanon, and I believe the MLP board will also be using them for their commemorative coins)

What is MLP board?

>>50371414
What do you mean? Is this a particularly spooky /biz/ round? Why would you get doxxed?

>>50370539
The US Government is the single most evil entity to ever exist and I am happy I will get to see it die in my lifetrime.

>>50370736
>1oz = 1oz
Reminds me of 1 BTC = 1 BTC. And yet both are falling against the mighty USD. Just face it, your "money" does not have 11 carrier strike groups to back it.

>>50371507
The USD is only getting stronger because countries are dropping their own currency for it so they can continue to buy stuff like the pretrodollar. Once they can no longer afford to buy the USD for their reserve currency

The USD is currently the global reserve currency so countries around the world store the dollar because that is what oil is sold in. Once these countries can no longer afford to convert their fiat into USD, the exchange market will then be flooded with the dollar that the Fed can't get rid of causing hyper inflation.

Fiat has no intrinsic value, it's nothing but faith with artificial scarcity, unlike precious metals that are scarce and require effort to obtain.

>>50371493
Because it was on another site once and got taken down for reasons. It’s a pisstake of a reichmark with apu on it. Assuming not trolling it’s obvious. It raised double its requirement then was killed by the site on the last day. We had a big argument over hats and no hats here.

The pony coin is the mlp board here. They are minting a coin for one of the cons/meet-ups. It looks great. They also mocked up a funny certificate of authenticity. Those crazy kids.

>>50371491
dew it

>>50364499
or simply use a magnet

>>50371642
Yes, I realized what MLP board was after I posted that question. Top lol. I was wondering if Frensmark was making some nazi reference, but the text just said Apu's name in German, and I guessed to 2003 start to be Pepe's birth. Not a nazi, but I will probably still buy some, just to keep the collection of Anon meme coins complete. Doxxing does become an issue, then, though.

>>50371663
>pantsu shot censored out
Yukari is too pure for this world

>>50371493
>What do you mean? Is this a particularly spooky /biz/ round? Why would you get doxxed?
Because its an identifying marker. Did you forget that youre on an "anonymous" website? You know, the place where anyone could be anyone. Bad enough there are avatarfags making shit all about them, but essentially giving out a free finger print just for a round with a meme is kinda dumb. Yeah its cool, but its also the same level of retarded as going to a /k/ meetup. Youre literally giving them your credit card, contact info, and home adress. Its unlikely that literally anyone outside of circles such as the one we share via a hairs width of thread would ever buy one, let alone even know it exists. So its no long stretch to think that anyone buying one is from said circles. Its called a honeypot for a reason, beware the bees.

>>50371507
>Just face it, your "money" does not have 11 carrier strike groups to back it.
Only fiat USD has entire battlegroups to defend its sovreignty. meme tokens are garbage and nothing more than a ponzi scheme. bitfags lost their precious digital numbers and fiatfags lost their buying power, meanwhile my shinies are still whole and in my possesion and can be exchanged for an equivalent amount of goods now as at any other time in history.
So tell me again who is worse off?

Guys there is room for all hard money, silver, gold, and Bitcoin all have their time and place

Stop bickering and focus on the real enemy

>>50371826
>hard money
>bitcoin (which literally weighs 0.00000001 of a gram combined)
Was this supposed to be bait?

>>50371747
I'm not giving them my credit card info. I'm giving their payment processor my info, and with both IndieGoGO and MintAnon's site so far, it's clear to tell who that is.

Also, I was already doxxed, full face and address posted on 8ch4n, in 2017, for a lefty pol political action that got me in the newspapers and which they then found. Someone alerted me of the doxx thread, and I went in there, and ranted about how I had been Anon since 2005 (truth) and they didn't even know what the lulz meant anymore, and asked them for specific toppings on the pizzas they were going to have delivered to my house. Nothing came of it, except some lulz, including from me. I'm not afraid of Anon. If Frensmark Anon wants to doxx me, then he is only doxxing himself, as part of the legion.

I'm more afraid of getting doxxed as a nazi, for trying to buy an Apu coin, and then being CANCELLED in the wider social.

>>50371860
>the fashoid is a coward
unsurprising

>>50371718
It’s a copy of a German coin from a particular period in history but with apu on it it the same way as the coin. It’s missing some details on his collar and the reverse is an eagle. I was in two minds with it, because I missed aputannia and this is a copy of a coin I have anyway. But it does have some internet edge that’s somewhat off putting.

I’d rather have something like pic related

>>50371860
>I'm more afraid of getting doxxed as a nazi, for trying to buy an Apu coin, and then being CANCELLED in the wider social.
Yeah man thats kinda the point. Buying a psuedo-reichsmark kinda marks you as right wing. What goybean sucking antifa faggot do you know that even stacks silver, let alone a remake of a NS coin? That really isnt even my worry, Im more afraid of being targeted and harrassed by the feds, I could give a fuck less about twinks, its the spooks that scare me.

>>50363560
y no dutch cunny quarter

>>50371878
>oh your such a man huh?!
>well then why dont you post your name, home address, social security, credit card front and back, full face photo front and sides, license number and plate number, your next of kin, and the answers to your security questions so we.. I mean I can come fight you like a man!
>your not a coward are you?!
Sorry but im not so volatile as to try to defend my honor against rats who have none. There is no dishonor is being underhanded against underhanders. You are an unworthy opponent.

>>50371937
>Sorry but im not so volatile as to try to defend my honor against rats who have none. There is no dishonor is being underhanded against underhanders. You are an unworthy opponent.

>>50371967
Oof, guess I better publicly apologize for my microaggressions against trans blax folx :(

>>50371747
>kys nigger

>>50371896
Makes sense, but go on /pol/, or Twitter, or a YouTube chat in some live news tream following some happening for 15 minutes and look at the shit people are posting there. Now compare that to you buying some Apu coin that happens to also look like a reichmark. I think the feds have bigger fish to spook.

>>50372011
If you want one then go for it. Im just not comfortable with it for the reasons stated.

>>50371507
>Just face it, your "money" does not have 11 carrier strike groups to back it.
Isn't it nice that the only reason the USD has global value is through threats of violence?

>>50372029
>I think the feds have bigger fish to spook.
Anon pls, they literally go after autistic loners in an attempt to make them into patsies. Niche areas like this are the low hanging fruit those cretins thrive on.

>>50372058
>Isn't it nice that the only reason the USD has global value is through threats of violence?
Violence, its the "gold" standard. Lol.

>>50372070
lol

>>50366946
nice coin

>>50366946
What's with your nails nigger? Nice coin though.

I found my white whale silver medallion again at auction lads. Harpoons ready, I'll get her this time.

>>50371493
Anon, I wish I could buy the meme coins. The Apu one and Anime prospector look awesome. Sometimes I wish I lived in burgerland for these things.

>>50371507
>Just face it, your "money" does not have 11 carrier strike groups to back it.

I'm triggered

Alright, so this whole "being unaware of both Frensmark and /mlp/ coin" debacle has made me very nervous. With coin sellers being b& from talking about their new coins, how can Anon be in the know? I figure the solution is a /biz/ (and related) meme round aggregator site, completely separated from the sellers, that Anon can spread the link to, once up, like /out/ has for patches. I'm thus going to make this site, over the next week, or couple weeks.

The site would have two main sections: a seller list page (ex. https://patchfeed.com/patch-seller-list/)) and then a news feed page. Round producers will be able to submit updates for the news feed page via email, which i will then post on the site, with the feed being date ordered. The feed will allow only five types of updates, to reduce maintenance time required by me:

>1. announcement of a new coin, with initial design image and timeline required
>2. announcement of funding starting for a coin, with funding link required
>3. announcement of funding ending for a coin, which will be posted 5 days before end
>4. announcement of final samples minted for a coin, mint images required
>5. announcement of samples starting shipping, shipping timeline required

Once I've got the site built, and hosted, I'll post a link and email here, for minting Anon.

>>50371663
Anon, your Autism is just too much.

>>50371491
Buy the kilo desu. I'm planning to get some kilos myself.

>>50371507
True, but every empire dissolves from inside over time

>>50372426
Would this be the case if historically subversive elements were completely purged from the societies and question?

>>50363530
>leave this board for a month
>prices fall under $20 for the first time in years
>mfw I look at the 60 oz I bought back in april

>>50372632
I panic bought a 100oz bar when Putin was invading Ukraine for like $1000 more than I can buy it now lol. Still a fantastic buying opportunity and I am fucking in heaven.
Most important aspect of trading/investing is to not FOMO or be emotionally driven and wait for a good entry point.

>>50371888
Check
Boats

>>50364995
Catherine is a great name for a girl.

>>50372632
>no not my $2000 :(

>>50370287
>hedge against inflation
>store of wealth
Literally what gold does. Silver is a mooncoin that ofc is popular on 4chan where neets have less money.

With silver, you will pay 5X the premium to buy silver than you will to buy gold. Silver coins have a 20% to 50% premium right now. Generic silver with the cheapest premiums, will be difficult to sell, especially in any sizable quantity. You will lose money on your silver unless it moons AND dealers are willing to pay you full spot for it (many don't now).

Gold is gold and it always has been. You will have 0 (zero) issue selling 2 gold coins for full spot. Good luck trying to dump 100 silver coins and make back spot (nevermind recouping the insane premium you paid).

Only buy silver if you think it will moon or you think we'll be living in Mad Max and people will use it as money (lol).

Hey how's the silver schizos?
Just 2 more weeks right?
You better off eating that shit at this point.

>>50370170
>>50370187
You gotta love the seething from christians when nobody wants anything to do with their kike on a stick.

>>50373152
It's going great. I love when it gets this cheap. I hope it stays this love for months.

>>50373138
>Gold is gold and it always has been. You will have 0 (zero) issue selling 2 gold coins for full spot.

It's pretty obvious that the days of gold being a hedge are over. We've just seen the worst inflation since the Carter days (arguably worse if you believe the numbers are inaccurate measurements), and gold has not kept up.

The whole market manipulation paper price stuff is horseshit. If you take your gold to a dealer today, he's going to have a spot price from today and that's it. Yeah, they'll want to sell it to you at whatever premium, but you're fucked if you want to liquidate.

The only pm retard response on this is "why are you selling, cuck?" But the problem there is they're being a coward by not defending the inflation hedge argument, which clearly gold has lost.

Why? Because up until a hundred years ago it is true, most people commoner or not did value gold. That is no longer the case. Most people wouldn't know what the fuck an ounce of gold is worth and don't care, because those that rule them no longer consider it a medium of exchange.

That's the simple explanation. You're welcome to be a numismatic collector if you have spare cash, but the dollar is king until the US empire collapses.

>>50373346
Most people are cattle, shocked. Still doesn't mean the illegitimate US fed can keep their dollar stable forever

>>50373241
I respect the enthusiasm, tho unfounded. As long as you understand 20-30$ per ounce is it's real value.
>>50373138
>Madman
Realistically in a madmax scenario aluminum would be the most valuable metal to barter with.
Impossible to produce without industrial furnaces. Which is why it was more valuable than even gold in the 19th century.
Gold and silver can be produced by pretty much anybody with a candlestick.

>>50373138
>economy is collapsing faster every day
>social contract has broken down, people (especially shitskins) are acting weirder and more aggressively
>he still thinks a collapse scenario is a fantasy

You need to get outside and interact with the real world. Shit is getting bad fast and we haven't even gotten started.

>>50373452
It does feel bad but I still don't have land and am waiting for prices to go down. I'm worried if it does get bad prices will never go down. RIP.

>>50373452
>You need to get outside and interact with the real world

The Costco hotdog is still the same price, sirs.

Fug I got paid. Now what to buy

>>50373346
Gold value may drop significantly more from current spot. When the economy gets even more fucked people will start to sell their coins just to buy essentials. Similarly, if just one country gets rekt enough to sell their reserves like Cyprus did years ago, the value will momentarily tank. But this would just be a perfect opportunity to buy

>>50373401
>I respect the enthusiasm, tho unfounded. As long as you understand 20-30$ per ounce is it's real value.
This is an inaccurate assessment of the situation. I write quite frequently here about the dangers of the over leveraged economy we have and how it present losses to the tune of hundreds of trillions of dollars of wealth being written off. Owning physical assets is going to be THE PLACE to be when the bond market begins to topple.

>>50373560
Kgs of silver, nothing less will do.

>>50373346
I was just answering anon on his question between gold and silver, and between those 2, gold is the obvious choice for the 2 parameters he provided.

It is true that gold is dropping now when it should be pumping. We've never seen anything like this before. I personally believe we will see PMs rally, but this current drop is concerning.

>>50373401
Haha, cool. The homeless will become lords!

>>50373452
Yes it is bad. One sec while I sew a spike to a single football shoulderpad and weld iron bars to my Tahoe. Good thing I have 10,000 silver buffalo rounds, since they are THE currency of Bartertown, y'know?

>>50373547
Kek

>when the urge to flush your silber down the toilet becomes too great

hopefully the fishe in the ocean can find a use for them

>>50372326
Good luck anon! My only advice is to set a price you're comfortable with beforehand and stick to it.

I'm heading out to pick up a nice score of vintage sterling North American animal medallions that I won for spot when it was $19.30. Will post pics on return.

>>50364885
Hebrew origin is fine
What we call the modern jew are the decedents of Cain and the devil
Pure white European men woman and children are the true Israelites don’t let them lot themself in with us
Christogenea.org
https://youtu.be/XXL09iWJrfs
https://youtu.be/YUiKAv17rdY

>>50368493
my nigga!

>>50363839
dollar cost average you dumb nigger.

>>50368937
seconded.

>>50373844
Remember folks, the banks NEED to pursue an inflationary monetary policy. However, they need all of the incentives and signals to steer you AWAY from physical assets. If capital moves from financial instruments to physical goods then the overleveraged shell game comes to an end immediately.
There is a catastrophic shortage of goods and services in the world, and inflation will actually ease this problem by making your "claims" to goods such as dollars buy less. So the ONLY play is to get your money stored in the physical goods. PM prices will catch up suddenly and overnight, just like they did in the 1920s when gold went from $20.67 to $35 per ounce. A 69% loss of purchasing power that happened overnight for anyone who held the cash instead of the gold. This is 100% going to happen again but on an even larger scale. Trust your gut, chasing after 7% gains is going to look foolish compared to the breakdown that is coming to a head as we speak. No matter who you are, or how wealthy you are, an 80% loss in purchasing power will wipe you out. So even if you make some gains on something like TSLA or AMZN or BTC, we are on the edge of a cliff that is forming in the BOND MARKET.

>>50373563
The only way your situation occurs is if the fed decides to crash the economy, when all signs point to a pivot in a few months

>>50363853
I like the Buffalo best.
But because it's 99.9% and doesn't have a dumb kween on it.

>>50364232
>>security features
How does that work?

Did we bottom?

>>50367139
You have this display in your home??

>>50374304
Kek it’s not like anyone visita

>>50371372
Because I keep getting fucking banned by retard jannie faggots. Got shoahd off indiegogo after hitting 10k and had to go to another site
>>50364885
Julia, Aurelia, Luna, Diana, or Augusta
>>50371718
2003 is 4chans start. Its a meme of the 5RM

>>50373844
Saw a shill post this exact thing yesterday. Do you come into the /pmg/ threads for fun or does someone pay you to fud? I bought more silver today and I am going to keep buying, even more so the lower it goes.

>>50367614
>>50367614
no bog coins sold for 75; offers were accepted.
in reverse chronological order:

#196 sold for $120 (p. offer)
#602 sold for $100 (p. offer)
#458 sold for $127 (correct on your graph)
#344 & 433 combo sold for 295 (p. offer)
#126 for $94 (correct on your graph)

I want gold because it’s shinier but silver is a better deal

>>50363554
Gross have transfags really come here in the short time I've been gone? No wonder Silver value is declining..

>>50374871
I don’t even find them when I search. Is it because I’m using the phone app and it the desktop? I’ve found the same Canadian apu and a bog for £250 bin

>>50372695
>for like $1000 more than I can buy it now lol.
spot is only down $5-6 since then. You must have gotten ass-raped on the premium lol.

>>50374871
>>50375028
desu i don't know how/if it's viewable publicly; i'm the guy who sold, that's how i know kek

>>50367693
I really should sell one but i've never sold something on ebay before but i've heard they really jew you nowadays especially as a seller. Also i'm guessing most people who want one are american and they'd have to pay shipping from europe so don't think i'd have much Luck selling one anyway.

>>50375159
ebay is about 15% fees and they're at least cracking down on buyers scamming sellers.

>>50375159
Sell it on Reddit r/pmsforsale

>>50375106
I definitely did. Bought on credit card just as a geopolitical event was ramping up.
Never FOMO, kids. I also splurged on a name brand bar I had always wanted and that was more than just buying the cheapest/secondary market.

This or
Philharmonics? I have 3.2 oz gold and 300 oz silver

>>50373346
>The only pm retard response on this is "why are you selling, cuck?
Lurk more before posting my friend.

>>50370223
I've have 4 kg bars from them over 4 purchases.
They haven't scammed me yet.

>>50375159
this guy >>50375188 is right. the fee's are way higher than they used to be 10 or so years ago. the trade off from >>50375209 however is that there is that extra bit of security to prevent you getting stiffed.

just make sure, either ebay or reddit, not to ship your shit out until the buyer has paid. (ebay will hold funds until confirmed delivered tho, just make sure to use tracking)

also, shipping a small package to europe from usa was ~30 bucks when i did it last year. On ebay I think i have it set for domestic buyers only.

>>50375288
On Reddit you can sell it to
People with 1-500 feedback and the place is so
Well
Moderated that they’ll ban you for one scam so it’s actually pretty safe to ship first if they’re well known. It’s a good community desu

>>50375343

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>>50375343