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>>50337263
Sure

>>50337263
the innawoods is insolvent

>>50337263
good luck sucking your own cock

>>50337263
sounds comfy as fuck. i would also add a nuclear bunker on that list just in case

>>50337363
thanks for the input.

>>50337394
why?

>>50337402
thanks, will do.

>>50337404
yep I was thinking something like that underground as well. But other things are more immediately important

>>50337263
Isn’t geothermal just for heating? I don’t think you could practically draw enough energy to power anything

>>50337481
Is it? Yeah okay scratch that then. This idea is still a work in progress. I also bought a 16tb HDD and am collecting all games/movies/shows/programs/books I think are worth saving so that in case we don't have internet we still have access to enough information/media than we can go through. I am planning to buy more HDDs down the road as well.

>>50337404
>>50337449
Maybe look for somewhere near a cave system you can access, so you don't have to dig your own gigantic bunker. Also look into avframe kit houses.

>>50337263
>northern canada
>solar
stopped reading

>>50337263
I have a similar goal, want to move to the Rockies and build my own house off grid but with nice amenities (and nuclear bunker/hangout room of course).

>>50337263
Wait till you have to deal with boomer building codes.

>>50337573
What is that picture? Cave access sounds like a good idea. QRD on avframe kit houses?

>>50337580
Breh, if you have a lot of solar panels then that amount should count for something when you have multiple big batteries to put the energy into. I think it can be sustainable.

>>50337625
based, the nuclear bunker idea is a good one.

>>50337717
Even on my own fucking land in the middle of nowhere?

>>50337263
Very comfy dream anon. Mine is similar to that but is located somewhere in Sweden or Switzerland, cause fuck Canada. Still thinking should I have a dog that would guard the house from the thieves. Also, a place to grow the shrooms would be nice and a personal library filled with the /sci/'s guide to physycs and maths, so I could understand everything about our universe and us in it. One day anon, one day!

>>50337263
>first thing on the list is electricity
lol stopped reading. your solar panels will die in 10 years.

>>50337263
Let go of your need for so much electricity and you don't even need to make it to be able to do what you dream of.

>some solar panels, small diesel generator backup and a fair sized batteries
>use batteries to charge laptop and for LED lights when needed, sometimes use the washing machine for clothes
>heat with wood, cook with gas or wood
>read books and tinker shit in a workshop listening to radio
>electric bike and a normal cheap car for travel to the shop
You need to let go of all the electronic bullshit to really make it. You need to let go.

>>50337549
> wants to live self sufficient in the woods
> I HAVE HARD DRIVES WITH THE OFFICE ON IT
fucking zoomers

>>50337263
Northern Canadian chiming in. You will die in 1 winter. I will laugh and use your shack to bleed deer out in.

>>50337740
>QRD on avframe kit houses?
basically like 60k for a well-fabricated 2 story kit home
The picture I posted is a karst map, which shows locations where cave systems are likely to exist.

>>50338168
>live in 2022
>live like its 1800
fucking boomers go join the fucking amish if your cant enjoy what both worlds have to offer

>>50337810
Man that doesn't sound so bad! Isn't Sweden just as fucked as Canada? The propaganda in Canada is off the charts. But maybe in the middle of nowhere, there wouldn't be a massive chance to find you or be bothered.
>Also, a place to grow the shrooms would be nice of course.

>>50337863
Aren't they much better now?

>>50338143
Thank you anon. Maybe I'm just stubborn, but having a media station for me and my family is important to me. With today's technology, it's more and more possible.

>>50338168
So what, it can be done

>>50337263
i would get this done quick because starlink is going to make the market for remote land go bonkers.

>>50337263

Sounds comfy, but you will get raided when shit goes south

>>50338315
Most normies would never pump their own water or wear a coat indoors regularly.

>>50338373
A remote cabin in a frozen wasteland, whose owner probably has a hunting rifle, is the last place anyone (excluding hungry polar bears) will raid.

Kek I stopped reading at the tesla cock sucking. You can't achieve this because you're dreaming. You have no basis in reality.

>>50338307
sweden is decent if you go to the north or the islands. our problem is that people trust the government too much, but we didnt go as crazy with the medical event. everything was open and the passport was dropped after two months, nobody liked it
especially in the north you have very cheap houses and loads of room, fantastic nature and clean water. only cons is that you might get lonely after the heavens do not fall within a few years
personally i prefer the island life, only downside is that the russians might try something

>>50338396
based

>>50338435
Okay, OP says 'Tesla or similar'. Why wouldn't this work?

>>50338315
fuck you're right

>>50338373
Well it's still better than living in a city with diversity

bump

>>50337754
Yep, this is not a viable idea.

>>50339172
Just get build permission before you start building.

>>50339195
how?

>>50339223
Apply to the build permission dude for the town or county you're in. It usually only costs like $100 or less. The laws are in plain text on the website. People act like this is esoteric boomer runes written on hidden ancient scrolls.

>>50337263
You will make it OP, I trust you
I have the same idea holding QOM this year, hopefully wgmi

>>50337263
based and Ted-pilled

>>50339316
oops wrong Ted

>>50337263
Cool idea anon. This can be done, but you have to make it first. That stuff isn't cheap

>>50339749
Takes about 150k.

>>50339767
$150k CAD? What can that get me?

I'm doing this. My wife and I have been homesteading for years and we can sustain ourselves.

You can ask me anything bro. Overall it's a great life.

>>50339798
The same thing, but less room for mistakes and more manual labor involved.

>>50339833
QRD of what your day to day life is like? How much money did you spend on everything? How far out are you from civilization? What is your monthly cost for supplies/taxes? Are you completely off grid? Do you use any electronics? Do you have pets or kids? If so, how do you teach them social skills?

>>50337263
Do you think you will be able to drive your Lamborghini into the woods?

>>50337263
Anon, this will take like 500k, maybe more depending on how much land you want. The idea of creating a self sustaining smallholding in the modern era doesn't really work, unless you are willing to dispense with most modern conveniences and inevitably making your kids totally unprepared for the normie world.

There is not really much money, not much culture, not many other smart people. Like yeah you can sit and browse 4chan and say "well when the world goes to shit, at least I have my 6.5 acres!".

But it isn't enough. And it definitely isn't enough in Northern Canada where you can't grow most crops. Just do what other people who fear the inevitable slide of the Western World to the Third World: move to a comfy exurb, drive everywhere, etc.

>>50340209
>move to a comfy exurb?
What do you mean by this? I know this is an ambitious idea, but maybe in some town somewhere where there is enough to get by with?

>>50337740
>t. has never tried to use a solar panel in the far northern wastes
it's literally dark for 20 hours a day in the winter

>>50340408
What if its in the middle of Canada? Not the arctic circle but somewhere in say northern Alberta/BC?

>>50339833
Do you have nudes of your wife? Post pics please sir

>>50339316
The ole bull moose would likely approve as well

>>50340453
http://timebie.com/sun/alberta.php

Looks like you get 7 hours of sunlight, but if you're in a wooded area that would equate to about 4 hours of direct solar per day during the winter. I'm in New England so not even that far north - I have a small 60w camping solar panel that I use to charge my phone and small electronics, but it won't pull more than 4 watts during the winter even if I put it out in the snow. I get a max of 48w (80% efficiency) even in direct sunlight during the summer here while in Colorado or Florida I can get 55+

>>50337549
Don't forget to make several copies of your drive for redundancy. It'll fail after a few years and you'll have to go to someplace for a few days to redownload everything

>>50337263
>EV
You’re better off buying a japanese shitbox. Those things lasts forever

>>50337263
pretty much all of these are already possible, just limited as solar panels still kinda struggle to run a household 24/7 and even the best satellite internet would probably be a bit laggy for gaming.
actual biggest problem there would be farming and getting enough sunlight in northern canada, if you want solar and farming go somewhere with the damn sun son

>>50339798
If you don't want to build the house yourself, $200-250K can get you this including a small piece of land:

https://minimalistehouses.com/en/our-products

>>50340453
If you want to do this for cheap I would say your best chance is going to be rural southwest Saskatchewan, but be prepared for hard winters. Everywhere else in Canada is going to be expensive (anywhere BC), even worse climate, far too populated, or have more problems with rural natives (Manitoba, Ontario, etc). Saskatchewan also gets the most sunlight of anywhere in Canada because of relative low precipitation.

If you wanted to go into the north you can do northern BC or even the Yukon close to the coast. The winters are milder there than in north-central or north-east Canada (and actually milder than most of Saskatchewan/Manitoba), but don't expect to rely much on gardening.

If you're going more than 100km north of the US border you should probably give up the idea of ever using solar power for anything other than handheld electronics. Solar efficient drops significant as you move away from the equator and there isn't anything you can do about it other than spend infinite money. Southwest Alberta has huge wind that I wouldn't want to live in, but it is a region used for windmill power. Saskatchewan is annoyingly windy but generally not enough for wind power.

>>50337263
>self sustaining
>solar panels
Lmao. Good luck finding lithium and rare earth metals. Just use coal, wood or even charcoal in addition to harnessing your stream

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>>50341119
Based, thanks for the replied and insight. I hope this thread keeps going.

>>50339918
>QRD of what your day to day life is like?
That's a very broad question. I wake up and survey the projects first, just checking the plants, animals and systems to look for any issues. It's honestly wonderful, I love walking around and enjoying it with my tea, unless I find something bad like the Japanese beetles this morning. We have most of the property automated in rudimentary ways; you really don't want to get stuck watering and feeding day after day, don't let this stuff eat up your life. The only daily task is milking the sheep because that's critical but we cycle that responsibility around the family so I only have to do it once a week and it doesn't take long anyway.
On most days I'm free to do what I want because the water lines from the creek and the grandpa feeders with gravity tanks for what they need to do. Sometimes I let the sheep into the other yard for fresh grass but that's not really a task since they love the change and just run in there.

However, sometimes you have a special task you need to throw in that can take several hours. Canning, preserving, gathering and drying chicken poop for fertilizer, gathering wood or taking care of some specific issue, but I'd say about 6 out of 10 days I can work on something other than the homestead.

>How much money did you spend on everything?
Hard to say since I gathered and learned this stuff over a very long time. Not as much as you'd think because I'm willing to build things myself. My greenhouses are nothing but plastic sheeting on the frame and I grow in the cheapest containers and (almost) cheapest soil I could buy, which works great by the way, just some $5 totes from your local supermarket can work wonders as containers. Besides the land and the house I'd say we've spent maybe $15k on the whole thing but that's including the hydroelectric and the dam.

>>50339918
>How far out are you from civilization?
About 45 minutes highway. That's one of the worst parts though, maybe the only bad part. If someone starts having a medical emergency the nearest hospital probably isn't close enough.

>What is your monthly cost for supplies/taxes?
Our cost for luxuries can be high like anyone but I can run this thing by itself without outside resources as of now if I have to and I try to with a lot of things. Our chickens eat a lot of pumpkin for example because pumpkin grows like crazy year after year. It's hard to even do anything with 100 pumpkins a year. I grow enough food for us and the animals, the creek pumps the electricity, and it plus the well and rain provide the water. If I wanted to disappear and never leave the property again I could at least until the unexpected starts arriving.

I am in a little trouble with taxes so I probably shouldn't answer that

>>50339918
>Are you completely off grid?
No we get running water and power but never use them anymore. The microdam pumps ~200 amps and that's more than we need. I have the toilet on the water tower that the creek feeds and the sink on the rainwater. And the one beehive makes more honey than you can eat so I mean hell I don't even need to leave for treats.

Do you use any electronics?
Oh yeah I actually have a gaming computer and all the modern stuff. It isn't such a bad influence to kids when they also have good values from the farm. I've got both the rural side and the modern side I guess.

Do you have pets or kids?
If you count the producing animals then we have tons of pets but I am careful to never name them or call them that. The chickens are there to be pampered their whole life and then killed and eaten and I really try not to forget it. Other than that I like cats but I do have one dog I love. And she barks to alert us of visitors / intruders.
Kids I have five, so it's me and her and one kid for every day of the week

If so, how do you teach them social skills?
We decided to homeschool and worried about that but our church community is great and when there are less people the people go farther to meet. Our kids have a lot of friends thankfully. The boys more so around here and the girls more in town

Regarding the energy discussion, seriously look into hydroelectric if you have a creek or water source. Build a simple dam with a short drop in the creek to let gravity do the work and your water wheel will pump out probably more power than you need. I put the solar panels away.

>>50337263
Sounds cool but once you hit 55-65 yrs old, you’re dead. How you going to do all that outdoors shit all old af? Bear b8.

>>50341842
It's actually pretty easy to stay in shape at those ages if you make an effort to. Anyway my uncle has his farm and he's 71.

>>50341842
nah you can do that till youre 80 if your not a fat diabetic piece of shit that smokes and rides a powerchair with oxygen tank

>>50338373
I doubt it. I can support myself, my family, and my closest friends. They better have serious numbers because we're a small army in a very defensible position.

>>50337263
>self-sustaining
Why do people say this? It's a cabin in the woods. It's not self-sustaining. YOU sustain it. Fuck..