/biz/ - Business & Finance

they are all scams
layer zero is the future

non. the future is permissioned

>>50328160
this anon knows.
DOT, ICP, Cosmos IBC.

For me it's still Avalanche. I predicted 150 EOY for it last year which was almost spot-on, and now I predict at least 200 EOY.

>>50328118
>real world use
So Hedera.

>>50328160
>>50328203
>>50328291
Can you actually explain the reasoning for why you believe these things? Put some damn effort into your shills.

avax, no close second, might as well have their own stadium. Anyone following the projects being built on it would sweat bullets if they aren't already all in.

>>50328118
Hedera

>>50328118
>Will any blockchain actually get adopted for real-world use?
lol
it's been 13 years and they still can't find anything
odds are not looking good

>>50328659
>septuple spend
Kek. It’s totally avax and not Hbar. You’re totally worthy of the truth and enlightenment. Buy avax not Hbar.

>>50328118
Kadena. Not even memeing.

We will live to see all competitors get rekt due to security blunders or holes in their contracts. Exploits abound, and billions lost. Only KDA will stand the test of time, money and usage.

>>50328118
kadena. proof-of-work, horizontal scaling, smart contract language that does more than mint tokens and nft's

>>50328203
AVAX will not set an ATH this year you dumb pajeet
t. fellow third worlder

>>50329024
Based retard, you'll want to kill yourself in December

>>50328118
ETH
SOL
ATOM
AVAX
DOT
KDA
ADA - shit, scam, but will go up anyway

in that order, the only ones you need

>>50328325
Companies across the planet have been using Hedera’s DLT for like 5 years now, and use-cases continue to grow. They aren’t marketing to faggot moonboys or shitcoin gamblers like the people on this board. Buy it or don’t, no one cares.

Avalanche is the only coin that actually functions consistently and has enough steam behind it to live on. All the others (of course except ETH) will die out this bear cycle.

>>50328118
I think that long term, CNDL will become one of the top Web3 chains and here's why. It is EVM compatible, has 80k TPS with 2 second finality, 20% APY staking, 0 transaction fees, and is engineered to host metaverses. Metaverses will be the driving force of crypto adoption and usecase for crypto in 2023 and this Candle Chain is poised to take advantage of that. Additionally, I should state that Candle has the most generous bounty and grants program available of any chain that I have seen. While it may not match the billions of dollars offered by HBAR, the grants are much easier to get and are offered not only for DApp developers but also token projects that bridge or deploy on the chain.

>>50328118
I filled my cart with Avax. I had a good opportunity to buy.

>>50328118
Bitcoin

>>50329042
kys you fucking retarded nigger, I'm DCA'ing in everything I'm not a gambler like most third worlders

>>50328118

hey OP, I did some highly sophisticated data mining of a thread about this a few weeks ago. FWIW, the aggregate biz view was AVAX

>>50329817
Okay, so don’t invest in AVAX then, got it.

>that collection of shitcoins
Smells like curry. Throw in MATIC and PNK and you have the Mumbai mix-up.

It's always gonna be Chia
>SEC-compliant
>Looking for enterprise and government adoption (which it will get the tiniest amount of government adoption from their working with the Climate Warehouse)
>Focused on decentralization above all else (the main reason a blockchain should be used) and is possibly the most decentralized blockchain right now
>While overall more difficult to make things work, their smart contract language is easily auditable
>Devs have shown good references for the thing crypto is capable of with DIDs and on-chain royalties from their NTF giveaway, along with the fact that they'll be showing off time-locked and rate-limited wallets when they move their premine in the near future (good custody solutions are way too sparce in the crypto world)

TEZOOOOOOOOOOOOS

>>50329267
Ava labs is sitting on enough cash to buy Brooklyn. They literally launched in a bear market.

>>50329817
>ICP in the top third
It'll never not be funny seeing how many people bought snake oil sold to them as magic technology at such a high price compared to what early investors in the project

>>50328799
Checked

>>50328999
C H E C K E D

>>50328799
>>50328999
>Mined with ASICs
>ASICs are produced by a single entity
Not trusting that

>he doesn’t know

>>50328193
> dot
It can only interoperate between parachains, useless.

> ICP
solid

> Cosmos
It can only interoperate between cosmos chains, worthless

>>50335184
State Proofs mog all of this shit

>>50328118
Ckb, no one ever mentions it but this is the master race

>>50335257
Algorand is solid but still cross-chain, unlike ICP.

>>50335393
Nervos is also a solid choice but again cross-chain, bridges are complicated infrastructure that can't be scaled across the space and mean a security risk, can't become the standard of interoperability.

Hedera and ICP are the only L1's that will have relevance in the future. They are vastly superior to literally every other L1. If you think otherwise you did not do your research.

>>50328118
LOX, XRP.

>>50335436
>>50335436
DOT and the cosmos are toping in that department

>>50328118
Does Hedera Hashgraph even have smart contracts?

>>50335562
>LOX
This and VET use PoA consensus,I feel that will be the most adopted consensus when people actually care for the environment.

>>50335596
>>50335184

>>50335257
wow, wrapped tokens, how novel and innovative
>>50335401
algorand is 100% owned and controlled by the Foundation

>>50335652
I'm talking about the tech

Hedera bruv. Hashgraph technology is unrivaled and the HBAR foundation is literally Growing this sucker like wildfire.

>>50335680
so am i
perhaps you should read more about how algorand actually works

>>50328118
Fag, all I care about is growing my portfolio by stacking more Cryptos with zero investment using Raiinmaker. kek

>>50329137
>ADA - shit, scam
You couldn't be more wrong.

>>50335628
>>50335699
>>50335501
Afaik hedera doesn't have many relevant tech breakthroughs, they have asynchronous BFT and a few other nuances that aren't anything to lose your mind over imo. The people in it are mostly there because they think governments across the globe are desperately waiting to use it, which is hard to believe given how severely untested DAGs are

>>50335652
The difference is in the security of the wrapping contracts. With something like Wormhole or the Ronin bridge, a limited number of validators in a centralized network send, receive, and interpret messages. With State Proofs, Algorand’s consensus mechanism will certify a record of the blockchain’s current state and send it to an Algorand light client on Ethereum. This makes state proof bridges significantly more secure than typical token bridges. To send assets from Ethereum to Algorand, projects like London Bridge are working on Ethereum state proofs which do the reverse of the diagram, using Ethereum’s security to certify state and properly reflect it on Algorand. This is going to become the standard for cross-chain asset bridging, and Algorand is getting a head start on multiple fronts.

>>50328999
The next big thing in web3 will be a proof of influence, newfag. It has been used by Raiinmaker, where value is distributed back to the user in the form of Crypto and NFT Rewards.

>>50329743
Raiinmaker doesn't require you to apply DCA'ing strategy, Pajeet. Anons are stacking more cryptos and nfts by monetizing their social influence.

To any newfag on this shithole; hbar is being relentless shilled to rope in as much liquidity as possible so VCs have some liquidity to dump their hundreds of millions of tokens they get every month. Even at these prices they are in massive profit. 6.8 billion tokens to 21 billion last year alone. Inflation rate is insane. Assuming all tokens are in circulation next bullrun a Mcap ATH would be 13c per Hbar. Also it is completely centralised (only council can run nodes) and you cannot stake to offset the mad inflation. The 5 billion dollar fund they claim they had for ecosystem development has delivered 0 apps so far, and at current token price is only a 250 million ecosystem grant. Their EVM iteration is fucking dogshit - as slow as ETH and their "real world use cases" bring in about 100k of fees per year. It's a fucking dead project with no future. If you want a VC scam ETH, AVAX, SOL and Near are miles ahead in every way.

>>50328118

PULSECHAIN nigga. Love him or hate him, RH is a fucking chad and pulsechain is going to BTFO all these fucking tranny L1s like polygon, avax and solana.

>>50336013
>Take ETH
>Clone on Github
>Change everything called Ethereum to pulsechain
>Do nothing else of relevance
Richard really took you guys for a ride didn't he?

>>50328118
Kadena, stupid.

>>50334826
How retarded do you have to be to believe this

>>50335932
How is avax a VC scam?

>>50337011
Probably because they had a presale and sold a large chunk of the total supply to institutional investors.

>>50335791
we all use hyperledger and it's free.

>>50328118
can you at least post previous months results when you do this monthly threads lad
something like a pie graph of everything shilled
at least it would be worthwhile returning seeing how much crypto changes every few days
I'll make the first one for you from the archived last months thread
Also my vote is for avax, and no I will not elaborate.

Will be interesting to see what happens with Chia when world governments and ngos all technically have a Chia wallet from using the World Bank's Ckimate Warehouse

unironically ch-ch-ch-chia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_M

>>50328193
No privacy enabling protocols? Ngmi

>>50329344
>Metaverses will be the driving force of crypto adoption
Based as fuck. Evident in how much top sport brands are pushing it like crazy

Still here as a fantom bull.

>>50329391
N I G G E R

>>50335596
Based. DOT is the standard in terms of interoperability

>>50328118
>Ethereum
Host the bests of metaverse projects. Stands more chance for real-world use on the long run

only one

>>50339728
The only coin.

>>50335925
NFTs are not only about monetizing. Some times, they are about providing access such as it is being done in connecting fans with their sports icons

>>50328118
i have 5k in 1inch
10k in VeThor
this is what happens when i try to trade and refuse to take losses
now I'm bag holding these coins

>>50339795
>Binance
Centralized to a level that's laughable even compared to Solana

>>50339861
Well, the emphasis is on how NFTs and metaverse is revolutionizing the sport world. Take a break from your obsession about decentralization

>>50339702
Esp. in sports and games. Biggest brands backing it big time is a major indicator

>>50339495
I don't want to spoon feed til I get a bag but this statement is so wrong heehehe

>>50328659
wasnt AVAX the same chain that claimed to be a “scaling solution” but then ended up having gas fees reach $14? TOPKEK

tfw Polygon suffered one of the nastiest DDOS attacks yet still managed to keep gas fees way below $1

>>50328659
name a project being built on AVAX that can't be built elsewhere

>>50341002
name a reason why they would want to? six cent fees, core wallet acting as a hub for all things avax now. 1200 nodes.
>>50340958
no one is looking at matic

when it comes to long term adoption then hedera hashgraph is by far the fastest, cheapest, most secure, and most sustainable network, and the hbar foundation is accelerating adoption and the growth of hedera's ecosystem through its funds

>>50329344
The metaverse has its role cut out for crypto to achieve mass adoption and we can see it advancing at a fast rate with the growing interest from top sports brands like Nike and Adidas.

>>50335184
> Cosmo
I thought their IBC adds a relayer that is chain agnostic? I literally just started reading on IBC because we are exploring a project to bridge private n public changes for some banks.

>>50335840
the only holders that ever have intelligent comments about info sec are algo and xmr baggies. The crypto space is like if the Eniac and a macbook air were released within 5 years of each and every one said to buy an eniac because it’s been out longer and everyone knows about it.
also OP makes this thread every week and i hate them sage

Literally only Ethereum will survive long term at this stage

>>50328118
I'm pretty confident with Qanplatform which is an L1 with quantum resistance as it will be an one stop solution to fight the quantum threats at ease.

>>50341719
I don't know chad, there are a lot of problems in the space that need to be solved. I'm more concerned about the absence of privacy on blockchains and how easy it is for anyone to monitor people's finances and spending history on a public ledger..

>>50341697
eth has always been trash, it only got popular because retards could copy paste shitcoins and gpu mining was still profitable. Unironically if eth2 is ever released moving to pos will turn the entire platform to vaporware overnight that makes solana look decent

>>50341905
Anon I think you don't get the the seriousness of the threat posed by a quantum computer dyor on it and you will know. The blockchain offers quantum resistance with 1600tps and under 5 min cloud deployment which is phenomenal imo and it has been audited by an IBM Platinum partner for all you know.

>>50341963
I guess both of POW and POS is good but I think POR is a combination of the both which is alot better and eco-friendly desu.

Now that the scams are collapsing we can find out.

I'm interested in what happens here after the SEC gets off their balls:

https://dragonchain.com/blog/dragonchain-q2-2022-updates

>>50341991
That's really impressive.

>>50335868
Never heard of rainmaker anon. All my attention is drawn to the land sale on Sportsmetaverse where owners can find hidden rewards like world cup tickets and an ETH gold mine.

>>50341672
This guy gets it, ALGO is the only smart contract chain which will ever be used by bankers, and XMR is the only privacy chain which will ever be used by the growing crime industry. Vestige will include the only launchpad which will ever be used by Algorand builders who fall in neither of these categories, probably.

>>50341459
why hello there hbar foundation anon

Chia has got a partnership with the world bank (https://www.theclimatewarehouse.org/)...)... literally all the blockchains in the picture have had years to get real world adoption and none of them have.

Chia has just launched 1 year ago, and focussing on real world applications.

Just remember, they tried to build the "Climate Warehouse" with ETH/Hyperledger and they couldn't do it due to the technical capabilities being too basic, they needed a decentralized blockchain that also has smart coin functionality where they can code different rules/regs in different countries.... so far 40+ countries are involved and Switzerland has a chia wallet ready to go.

End of August is when the beta is supposed to close, expect fee's on the chia blockchain to be activated in aug/sept... NFT's just started too so the ecosystem is starting to grow.

They have the biggest VC's/names supporting this project including, Kevin Rose, Naval Ravikant, SLow ventures, Richmond Global etc... The last raise was $61M at a $500M valuation by a16z (equity).... hey will be the very first blockchain the work in parallel to the Nasdaq, where they will have XCH on the nasdaq and in crypto.

They didn't do a raise like all the other blockchains (even ETH is now back in the "is this a security?" conversation), because they raised money for profits which = security. Chia farmed there coins out in circulation organically exactly like BTC to avoid being a security... they raised on equity only (chia corp is for profit), but the blockchain is fully decentralized.

You cannot beat this team, they are literally the hardest workers according to stack. Invest in devs not shills.

notice how everyone is shilling everything but ETH...so many fucking pajeets in this thread

>>50339773
Leemon…. If you think you can get me with your shitty cartoon goth bitch you’re dead wrong. That ecosystem fund was worth $5 billion in September last year, but those 10.7 billion HBAR are now worth a mere, pathetic $670 million, and there’s barely anything happening on HBAR right now anyways. Algorand has more going on than your Hebrew Shitgraph. https://hedera.com/blog/hedera-governing-council-to-allocate-5-billion-in-hbar-to-independent-foundation-and-ecosystem-development-initiatives

>>50342632
Ha, what a story Mark!

Why the climate warehouse is huge, is because the fake agenda of the paris agreement... it's coming whether you believe it or not... and XCH won the contract to be the tech provider for the world market (carbon credit market).

Like Gold, gold has a spot price around the world, it's universal (1.8k per ounce etc), there has never been tech around to not only be decentralized, (as some countries conflict with each other, it's very hard to get them all to use the same technology because they don't like each other, chia has spent the last 1 year's travelling and negotiating with all parties, and now they all found common ground, and willing to use.

This means Carbon Credit Per tonne will start being a universal metric vs a national metric, as carbon credit certs are cheaper in some countries vs others. It will use geo mapping for companies to list where they "planted trees" etc, and Chia for this very reason is why it's by far the leader tech wise... ETH only can handle 30 mb (hence the NFT's are shit and small), Chia wanted to focus on Satellite imagery for this usecase and they did just that.

Chia will be essentially the Nasdaq of the Carbon Credit Market spot price, and nerds have already done maths on the gas fee's that will be used globally... put it this way, the low end of the valuation approx $380BN marketcap.. this model is based purely on network usage and not speculation (like what u see in crypto today), Remember the 2017-2019 meme of " I want to own a masternode", well chia is doing exactly that in different wording, those who validate the transactions are the masternode holders, they gain the fee's generated from real world applications.

I'm a VC, this is my best holding, & that includes my Polkadot holding... the upside on chia far exceeds Polkadot when you do a ROI.

Heres the article where the new valuations will be determined by network usage vs speculation (marketing and shilling). https://www.chia.net/2022/06/08/valuing-blockchains.en.html

>>50341697
Privacy protocols would survive long-term too anon. Especially with the increase in hacks and scams we see every day.

>>50339637
well, Polkadot has really a good spot with cross-chain interoperability and it has specifically a project in its ecosystem that is up and about that feature

>>50342547
>Chia farmed there coins out in circulation organically exactly like BTC to avoid being a security.
This isn't accurate. They had a premine generate at mainnet start to give the devs 21 million XCH to their wallet, but that also doesn't make them a security so it doesn't matter. So long as they didn't sell anything they're in the clear

>>50342737

explain how chia solves the farmers dilemma then ?

>>50342737
>and Chia for this very reason is why it's by far the leader tech wise... ETH only can handle 30 mb (hence the NFT's are shit and small), Chia wanted to focus on Satellite imagery for this usecase and they did just that.
Not sure what you're talking about with this either. They're getting verification of carbon Credits through the data layer, but most information will be off-chain. On chain will be for the necessary information for verification of submitted data (which should introduce too much in the way of fee pressure). It's fine though that it doesn't cause fee pressure since a working real-world example of blockchain usage is worth a hell of a lot more in the long-term

>>50343094
>the farmers dilemma
You here again to shill a term created and only acknowledged by Subspace Network which was made to shill their blockchain tech?

>>50342866
I think generally projects with cross-chain features, access to multiple chains and some other features are really buzzing at the moment

>>50328193
Dot all in.

>>50343176

keep seething cuz it's a legitimate problem in the same way the verifiers dilemma is

>>50328325
https://rfid.averydennison.com/en/home/news-insights/press-releases/avery-dennisons-atma-io-connected-product-cloud-to-utilize-the-Hedera-network-to-account-for-carbon-emissions-of-billions-of-unique-items.html

>>50328325
https://hedera.com/blog/servicenow-and-hedera-enable-cross-organizational-digital-workflows

https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/events/2022/05/toko-from-dla-piper/26-may-2022/

>>50343600

didn't some other anon just claim carbon emissions will be accounted by chia ? one of you is lying

>>50343635
I said nothing, I just posted a link directly to Avery Dennison

>>50343187
what do you expect, basically every human want freedom, they want to do things at will so access to all matters

>>50343635
There's multiple groups in the business of carbon credits, though I'd guess if a universal solution worked that's backed by The World Bank they probably have more sway to get governments to universally use their trustless solution

>>50343672
it also extends its features to enabling multisig for businesses too

>>50343635
There has been carbon credits since 80's90's lol, nothing is new, but Chia has the technology to create a spot based price by utilizing all different countries into 1 platform. Right now there is none of that, because if you think about it... the companies don't want to expose data as to what they're doing to the public as it's private information, but they need to have that data conveyed towards there governments for there tax rebates come tax time.

So this platform not only needed to be a "decentralized centralized" platform, it needed to cater to rules and regulations between each jurisdictions. E.g. in Switzerland, there will be a company with carbon credits> goes to a body that acts as a "middleman", this body gathers all the companies information within Switzerland> puts it in the climate warehouse. Each country will have this middleman that polices the onboarding of carbon credits they get from companies.

If it DOES, and i mean IF, then this will essentially created a data bottleneck of pricing (kind of like chainlink oracles), into 1 spot whcih will produce an output of a price (e.g. $10 Carbon credit per tonne), as more companies join, the bigger and more accurate prices become and eventually it will be in the commodity section on the news like Gold.

The reason why chia beat eth/hyperledger, is because eth is shit, and not scalable and it can't do data imagery (hence NFT's have 30MB), Chia only has 30 TPS... but thats because there blockspaces is huge, u will need to do 100 transactions on ETH to store 3 GB of data, it's a joke etc. For chia, it's only 30 TPS, but u can fit sattelite images in them.

People still falling for this "TPS" meme... it's not about TPS, VC's are investing in "block spaces", this is the real value as internet is getting faster, Block spaced blockchains is the alpha for u all. If you can increase the block space, u dont need TPS. Solana does "1M TPS" yet struggled to maintain above 1.5k in real terms.

>>50342607
Why on earth would you shill for the bloated mess that is eth, because it was first? Eth is awful.

SO my point is Chia is decentralized enough for China, india, russia, america, other western countries to use, and the decentralized model means these countries will trust each other now.

Previous to this, hyperledger tried but since it's centralized, countries weren't getting along and didn't trust where the data was going.

This is why it's alot more technical then what it seems, it's not like that shit project on Polygon that does carbon credit certs, thats like the kiddies playground... chia has to actually get countries to work together that don't like each other, and they've done that. There is a 1 hour 30 min video on the internet in Davos where a chia boardmember explained the struggles, it wasn't all tech struggles, it's countries that hate each other utilizing it... Klima is that polygon shit project i was talking about, they have no idea what it takes, Chia has the team to pull it off, and when they do (august is when beta ends... they've passed all phases of this trial), it will be blockchains first real world adopted usecase, and they will be going public later this year ontop of it. This team doesn't miss, they pioneered alot of the shit we use on the internet today.

>>50343094
>>50343501
“farmer’s dilemma” is a fake problem. as >>50343176 said, it is FUD made up by a single guy with an ulterior motive. The Chia blockchain grows by ~40GB each year, meaning that in 100 years, a 4TB HDD that you can buy today on eBay for $30 will be able to hold the entire thing with no problem whatsoever
>>50342607
ETH will be the MySpace of smart contract platforms

>>50343672
freedom matters in all areas and aspect of life

>>50328118
for me its running my own blockproducing leaderless Avalanche Node.
>no slashing and 9% - 12% APY
>just have to provide comfy 90% uptime and stake my 2000+ AVAX
>can run it anywhere I want anytime I want on almost any hardware
>comfy dashboard: stats.avax.network/dashboard/network-status/
>collect Validator rewards and % from my delegators rewards
>all Nodes validate the C-Chain and C-Chain has good DeFi and DeFi farming with good yields
>all AVAX fees are burned and AVAX is hardcapped
>Subnets are about to take off and my Node will be able to validate them means I get paid
>Subnets will create big demand for 2000 AVAX so everyone will buy a stack, mastercard/deloitte/paypal and many others already working on customized subnets as they can run any VM
>incentives compete for my big AVAX Validator
>Chainlink Subnet is coming too

its the NEETnode dream.

>>50343930

Not sure 'block space' is the alpha. (unless im confusing semantics here with blocksize)

there is a reason the smartest cryptographers in the world are not big blockers and scam artists like craig wright are.


big blocks means more throughput - more throughput = more orphan blocks - more orphan blocks = easier to fork and re-join the chain with a different order of transactions

a 51% attacks get reduced as it scales.

>>50328193
>This

>>50343913
BASED

>>50343913
what's special about multisig?

>>50346723
it is always safer 'cos these wallets that require two or more private keys to sign and send a transaction as against regular wallets

>>50328118
none of these have shown any real world adoption for even 0.1% of what is needed to back up their market capitalization.
i have had some hopes for hedera but it has been 2 years and no adoption at all, no promises kept, no year of scale.
and all new CBDCs trials are running private chains. my feeling is it's over for crypto trading. people are beginning to wake up to the fact their participation is not needed and all public networks do not present any real advantage but a host of disadvantages.

>>50328118
which coin will be adopted long term except for the one coin that has the best chance of being adopted long term?

>>50346832
there are lots of them but a simple research on each of them could help you navigate through

>>50328118
Eth because why not but i see it flopping eventually

ADA for cult following + that mother fucker takes 10 years to write 20 lines of code so people are just gonna be waiting around

Pulsechain because their following is large, cultish and they dont care about crypto people, its all abour fresh money which can go a while.

Bsc, unironically its the best chain rn we need to remove the chinks from it tho + cz node centralization and binance...

>>50335764
Lmao how's those working dApps? oh right there's none.
How's SomedaySwap?
Still 7 transfers per Sunday?
Peer reviewed transactions?
There is no need for cardano.
It has no EVM.
The future is multi chain, ADA ain't it hoss

>>50339861
you're missing >>50339795's point. Hugely famous and widely used eCommerce platforms already provide stores with NFT gated early access for merch drops. This shit is going to go parabolic. Make sure to look for NFT drops from major normie fags in the coming future. Then resell them.

>>50330642
>>50338674
>>50339411
>>50342547
>>50342737
>>50343073
>>50343635
>>50343930
>>50343930
>>50344166
Hello sirs, I see you made your usualy "L1" thread, which is actually a Chia shill thread in disguise as you get BTFO too hard in your dedicated Chia threads. Chia is a premined scam and you're all pajeets, ETH won.

>>50328118
You can't afford to miss out on the metaverse anon. So much development in the sector lately. There's even a Metaverse just for sports lovers where they could stream matches in 3D. Pretty innovative.

>>50340958
it cant be that bad if they can all afford brand new avax hats

>>50346932
>Lmao how's those working dApps? oh right there's none.
There are several working right now, just go see them on cardanocube.

>How's SomedaySwap?
It's working great now, but there are several other better option on ADA right now.

>Still 7 transfers per Sunday?
No, thousands per day. Transfers take seconds now.

>Peer reviewed transactions?
Useless FUD. Cardano was built with based peer-review research made by academics and engineers. Transactions take seconds, and will become even faster on the next updates.

>There is no need for cardano.
It has, otherwise people would not been using it right now.

>It has no EVM.
Another lie. It has EVM in the side-chain, it's called Milkomeda.

>The future is multi chain, ADA ain't it hoss
The future is multi-chain, and Cardano is already becoming multi-chain, it is already supporting interoperability with Milkomeda.

>>50347435
Kek, keep seething anon.

>>50328118
ALL OIF THEM ARE SHIIIIIIT!!

THERE IS ONLY ONE FINAL SOLUTION

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>>50329137
I like this list. Because of ETH and particularly for DOT cos of the large and active users within the polkadot ecosystem. I have considered reading more on equilibrium, one of their parachains following the 1st phase of their token offering days back.
I trust the adoption that would come to all of those as the bull season ensures.

>>50346454
Kek, the only based assets on my mind is the lands on Sportsmetaverse anon. Big names like Amanda Nunez and Shawn Phillips have bought one.

>>50328118
f-fantom

>>50343073
How is it not accurate? it's exactly whats happening... and i didn't say they were a security, your right... there prefarm doesn't make them a security, i fail to see where i said it does?

>>50343930
>Chia only has 30 TPS... but thats because there blockspaces is huge,
This isn't accurate at all. The Chia devs aren't big blockers. The block size is a reasonable amount to encourage increased decentralization (the same reason minimum spec to run a full node is a Pi4). A lot of the data-intensive stuff is off-chain, no clue where you got this idea that Chia operates like that.

>>50347435
We get it, you like to FUD your own bags.

>>50348929
You're completely misunderstanding them. You claimed they got their premine 'organically like BTC' (which it wasn't as Chia Networks has no active farming with the company itself) and they were just correcting that and agreeing that it's still not a security even with that correction.

>>50349075
Take your meds retard, I'm not a chainlink schizo and nobody else FUDs their own bags.

fantom

>>50335868
NFTs have led to more adoption from users and sports athletes as well with Ronaldo teaming up with Binance to launch NFTs and build his own web3 community.

>>50348816
Kek

>>50343422
Dot all the way, the best so far

>>50349657
Truly speaking, NFT is gaining traction, many projects are using NFT to proffer solutions to real life situations

>>50328118
Algorand, still best scalable L1 and most user friendly chain. Every month, still the same answer faggot.

Have you tards even used FTM, SOL, ADA? top kek.

>>50328160
>>50328193
This is correct. $LACE *will* moon.

>>50344495
Holy AUTISMOS batman!!!

>>50341482
>CNDL
For sure, and there will be many Metaverse DApps and assets and those will require a fast, cheap, and secure platform to work on. That's where Candle Chain comes in. The only other chain I see being able to compete with it tech wise is Hedera.

>>50328118
They are all scams, only Fiat is the future

>>50352840
Did you just miss DOT there?
I think DOT is more user-friendly, SOL is fucked off kek

>>50335628
yes, hedera is fully EVM compatible and faster executing them than anything on the market

>>50348308
what large and active user base? stop lying you piece of shit. it hardly has any users

Very brown thread

>>50328799 (checked)
>>50328999 (and checkkdd)
>>50336134
its so sad how we are in a bear market and biz is still so stupid they cant see the final outcome

>>50329137
while you are correct why bother with the shit coins on that list (ETH, SOL, ADA...)
if you are in it for the tech you will do well

>>50328118
Polkadot is my best bet, I am slurping a few parachains

>>50354180
Get the fuck out of here, no one is here for the tech alone, even yourself, you are here for the money

>>50354386
Yes, the ecosystem is developing very fast with new projects emerging constantly

Seeing as how this thread has enerted a 2nd day i want to remind newfags that avax already won the L1 race to the point all the avaxers from last year no long even come to /biz/. I am one of maybe 4 guys still watching the shills, bagholders, and teenagers fight it out over vaporware.

>>50353281
What's the proof?
Both DOT, SOL and others are all scam

>>50353922
Are you blind or new to the industry?
Did you attend the last Polkadot Decoded event?
A lot of new projects were there, subsquid is one of them, and they unvail one of their product; Firesquid

>>50339808
Without a privacy protocol, you could be fucked in a jiffy fag.

>>50354386
>>50355945
I am looking at EQ, that's my favorite for now. It's running the first orderbook DeX in the ecosystem.

>>50328118
Avalanche. It has company built on Hyperledger which manages over $5B in tokenized assets for corporate clients building on a Subnet, purely because Avalanche allows private permissioned blockchains. Plus it has Deloitte's disaster relief system and the Lemonade project with Chainlink which will provide insurance to african farmers. It is used for more than just jpegs and shitcoin gambling.

>>50356077
>to the point all the avaxers from last year no long even come to /biz/. I am one of maybe 4 guys still watching the shills, bagholders, and teenagers fight it out over vaporware.
>CTRL+F
>"AVAX"
>1/24
That's a weird attempt at shilling my guy, especially with all the Avax threads that happen on /biz/

>>50358204
>all the Avax threads that happen on /biz/
we have zero happening right now. you literally proved my point. seriously, don't buy the coin if you don't want to.

I'm not gonna try to convince anybody, but hedera is literally the only project in crypto with actual fucking use cases running on it/ going live /being built by reputable enterprises. It's gonna be a long ride to the top though so it's not for people with a high time preferance

>>50359270
>the only project in crypto with actual fucking use cases
Like the dumb coupon stuff that went nowhere?

>>50359270
I hold 1k dollars in HBAR and I think it will become a top 15 crypto next run but I don't lie to myself about the idealism of it all.
The coin is fully centralized and it's initial holders continually sell their bags for profit.

>>50357769
Subsquid remain my go-to platform when it comes to data indexing and speed, and that is what web3 needs to grow faster

>>50348308
Buying or DCAing in this market is actually not my call. Better I get in early into novel projects and just watch the market. You have any idea when the 2nd round of the equilibrium sale would be?

>>50363477
They say Q3 kek. Seems we got several EQ fans on here. Haha

>>50328118
all shit coins
Vechain will be the layer 1 of enterprise & governments around the world
cope
seethe
liquidate

Where is a good resource to learn what all "this shit" means at a slightly-more-than-surface-level of understanding? I want to be able to explain it to myself and to others, but I don't need to know the intricacies of the cryptographic math.

Specifically, what does layer 0,1,2 mean?

>>50364444
wasted

>>50364192
EQ what's that. Please count me out cos I had only just learnt about it now.

>>50364457
>asking questions that a significant portion of people in this thread want to know
>wasted

"No."

>>50364309
Its so great it died?

>>50364645
?

>>50364444
>>50364610

podcasts

>>50328118
Heredera for sure.

biz is going to sleep on kda again heh

The fact that FTM hasn't been mentioned once in this thread, for what I saw, proves that /biz/ is never on the good shit. What a pathetic display

>>50365542
>tfw only have 5k kda
it's over...

>>50335562
Price prediction for xrp

>>50335501
Price prediction for hbar and icy piss

>>50364444
0: layer under blockchain, Dot, ICP, ATOM
1: Blockchain, ETh, BTC, XMR
2: layer on top of blockchain, op/zk-rollup
Dapps: uniswap, ENS, aave
Infra: cross-chain bridge, Oracle, query

There you go 444 faggot, my 3 mins summary, Google one or two projects in each category, study, and good luck

>>50367486
>XMR
I'd focus on actual anonymous blockchains or projects built around it

>>50364553
You can't know about Polkadot auctions and not know it

>>50357446
>Without a privacy protocol
Railway appears to be the best to use at the moment. Shields transactions in seconds

>>50361723
Let me break it to you. Web3 will grow with or without your shitcoin

>>50359270
Save yourself the tragedy and invest in metaverse when you still can

>>50359701
Its not even online yet. And I doubt the coupons or atma.io is gonna push the price much, like I said it's for people with a low time preference

>>50352762
>NFT is gaining traction
Especially in sports. The big guys in the industry about crypto. I really want to see how the land sale on sports metaverse is going to play out today

>>50349657
Good one on NFTs but I think a wider adoption will be realized once private NFT auctions are enabled. Literally waiting for Railgun to get ahead with that

>>50356153
This is a retarded statement to make

>>50347499
Looking forward to getting a ticket to the world cup in the virtual lands on it.

>>50344820
Orphans are only a thing for proof of work chains isn't it. Proof of stake or any consensus with fast finality don't have orphans.

>>50369077

Thanks for responding. That is a good point about finality, i checked and chia only has probabilistic finality - and can induce block in parallel so orphan blocks are rare as long as network is not delayed.

However orphan block attack is actually easier comparative to btc - the difference is there is almost no monetary incentive to do so.

>>50355945
I'm yet to see the involvement of metaverse around polkadot despite the fact that it is more or less the next biggest thing considering how much top brands-gaming/sports are into it. Ethereum and Flow seems to be the main ground for that

>>50342547
No offense as I actually farm chia myself, but that climate warehouse website looks like your typical scam coin site made in a couple hours, complete with meaningless Blockchain word salad, cheap stock images, and pajeet filled team. Look I want to believe chia is legit but the more I read your long winded posts the more sus this crap looks to me

>>50335868
>The next big thing in web3 will be a proof of influence

it is no longer news and as much as more existing web users would be ready to migrate to the new web, Ore Network will also help these users migrate by connecting their existing social media account to a blockchain identity

>>50355836
Yes I will dump all of my thousands of kadena which i purchase at $1 on poor losers when it hits $100, why do you ask?

>>50369603
>but that climate warehouse website looks like your typical scam coin site
m8 the climate warehouse is a project by the World Bank

>>50369931
Why not join the ongoing subsquid ambassador program to earn some reward for your self instead of selling off your shitcoins on loss to eat noodles?

>>50368262
Which of them, railgun, monereo or secret?
But I doubt, the government will definitely ban all during regulations

>>50335184
DOT also operates outside parachains; read the whitepaper. Parachains just give more functionality/performance

>>50368612
Yea, sport, gaming and security and movie, NFT is creating more crypto adoption

>>50368577
Shut the hell up you rookie, no project grows in isolation, every sector; NFT, web3, gaming etc., all needs development

>>50328118
GRT remains number 1 when it comes to scaling solution and speed

>>50330729
i am forgotten

>>50328118
What layer one mean? Me no know

>>50370975
You are right anon
DOT has a lot of functionalities, the launched of fire squid by subsquid will enable a speedy synching of the projects on the blockchain

>>50367486
Wait so one layer two you swap layer ones ?