/biz/ - Business & Finance

> WTF are we actually supposed to do?

Get a jobs, funs over

>>50307855
>Just slave away until you are dead with no hope for retirement

This really is it for us, isn't it?

Just wait for the next bullrun.

>>50308104
Anon, there is no guarantee there will be another bull run. And all signs right now point to even if it happens we are many years away.

>>50307836
>There is NO WHERE to put money
Divvies, damn zoomers want everything instantly.

>>50307836
Just post your shitty bear.

short asian stocks, it's free money
2023 short euro stocks
2024 all in on russian stocks

Yeah bro this is it, from this point on no one will ever make any money and there will be no financial opportunities of any kind in the next months or years you are so right.

>>50307836
It already worked they put the slave class back to work
T.backtowageslave2monthsinalready
Bastards!

>>50308582
next bullrun starts by eoy, bond markets have priced in the fed peak

>>50307836
We can never win bros, its over

It will be bad for a decade or so but afterwards we could emerge stronger than ever. Just like how the catastrophe of WW2 spurred the most prosperous period in history in the following decades, at least in the west.

>>50307836
ok summer user I can tell youre new to this


you can always short or long crypto. if its going down, short it. going up long it. higher leverage if u want. 100x even. this is why crypto is so volitile. can short stocks like this cuz u can get bankrupted easy

Gold is doing just fine moron. If you put your entire portfolio in gold two years ago you'd be fine.

>>50307836
>Crypto looks like it's on its final death bed, still no use cases
I make payment via Utrust, that is more than enough usecase

>>50307836
>there is only right now and no past or future!!!
Peak zoomer.
This shit has happened before.

>>50311062
I put everything into housing 3 years ago. Im gonna make it.

>>50307836

>All planned

Klaus

>>50311062
Gold has no total supply, It's not bad but it can depreciate as well
>>50311076
This is the true value of crypto, but sadly not all make payments with it yet. It is way cheaper

>>50307836
Get a job loser.

But gme and ygmi

>>50307836
Wtf do you mean "no use case" crypto banking is superior in every conceivable way to regular banking. As long as someone is using a token on the internet to buy or sell something especially fiat currency, that is a use case.

>>50311062
Jews will print more paper gold and make it dump

>>50307836
>WTF are we actually supposed to do?
suffer

Didnt read the fucking Thread. Recessions are the time when the real Money is Made. Get steady cash flow, buy hard assets and stop being a little whiny bitch.

>>50307836
Accumulate UTK, DCA, and stake it

>>50311911

This is only useful to nerds and autists though. It has no normie appeal. If you tell a person how you can send crypto monies to people without an intermediary 3rd party entity to validate and allow the transaction, they'll look at you like you're nuts.

Firstly, to the VAST majority of people, the current financial system runs like that. When they e-transfer money to their landlord, it's essentially instant. Those funds aren't held up aside from entering the password (assuming they don't have direct deposit), which to them is a good security feature (which is another point that getting them to switch to crypto will be hard to do -- easy to screw up). Very rarely is a transaction ever held up, and if so it's an anomaly. When they go to the store and pay with their plastic card, it's essentially instant and they don't even think that there was a 3rd party validating this transaction.

monero. same vibes as bitcoin 2014-2015.
we all use it, we all win.
that simple.

>>50307836
Fuck Putin.

>>50307836
GO get a Job

>>50311579
Merchants are really adopting crypto payment, The main issue is regulations, although there are few countries that welcome crypto payment like El Salvador and even Portugal because I remember it licensed Utrust as a virtual asset service provider a few months ago.
>With more crypto payment adoption, there will be more Bullish moments and less selling into Fiat

what you're supposed to do is taking advantage of the current price of matic since its still criminally undervalued, and it will be only a matter of time until the price reflects the real value that polygon is bringing to the market

11 sats on tradeogre could go to 0, but its got the fundamentals for a doge pump. brand name, ancient compromised pow chain, whale wallets

retro shitcoin season is the antidote to NFT mania

>>50307836
Buy some kneepads and get to work polishing knobs. You only get one shot -- do NOT miss your chance to blow!

>>50307836
>for no fucking reason)
Yes there is retard, Russia wants more clay.

>>50308582
And there's no guarantee you're right at all either.

>>50307836
>GUESS WHAT AT ANY TIME YOU MIGHT SEE A MEGA DILDO PUMP OFF SOME BULLSHIT NEWS AND GET LIQUIDATED.
just sit in a leveraged inverse ETF like SQQQ or whatever, you can't get wiped out on scam candles with those.

Or just use sensible leverage in general, 5x or less, if SPY is going to 3k then that's basically doubling your money while everyone else bleeds out their asshole. Just don't be a fucking 125x retard and bobomode can be profitable for you

>>50310390
Mutt land is the new Nazi Germany.
Not even joking.

Invest in Euromillions anons. Literary is our last chance

>>50311118
>Peak zoomer.
Has to be a 30 year old, I'm 24 and seen crypto take a dump like this before.

100k$ btc is written

that's enough info to make it if you don't overleverage and just survive the next 3-5 years

>>50312398
>This is only useful to nerds and autists though. It has no normie appeal.
Can you shut the fuck up?

>>50312306
What kind of hard assets? How to profit?

>>50307836
it's actually unironically time to get the fuck off minecraft and do shit in the real world

>>50311062
Wow, it's gone from $1500 to $1700! What a return! Incredible.

People come to crypto for 100xs because we don't start off with 100m you absolute fucking handicap. Gold investors are the biggest retards going.

>>50307836

Have you heard about the good news?

REPENT for your memeing degenerate ways and buy municipal bonds (VTEB for my ETF boys) today.

Because it turns out, you actually can't reliably expect to make money doing nothing. Yep. Actually gotta get a skill and sell that and use bonds as a hedge against inflation for your retirement.

Not popular, I know. But that's really how it b

invest in svre stock tonight, pumperspammers are raving about its 470k share float, it'll pump premarket tomorrow then dump an hour after opening if it follows the trend that the other spammed ones have

>>50307836
OP
anons
please
chill
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/386338063

>>50307836
it was your one shot

the universe made it so that each experience we had would make us feel worse from the next one. it is the god's will. negative harmony, the undoing of everything.

praise jesus and start shorting the idea of being. nothing will be enjoyable as long as something can exist, it will never be worth it no matter what anybody does.

>>50307836
I work a government job (I can't say which without backlash here) and make about 3600 a month. I cater for a local pie stand that earns me an extra 2k a month. I crochet unique styled mittens and hooded caps for roughly 600-800 a year. I hunt and tan my own deer leather which depends on the hide but another 5k a year on average. I play poker and I'm a tier 1 in the amateur leagues. I made 30k from this is in the last 5 years. If I'm reeeeaallly fucking bored I'll collect sticks and make Blair Witch figures for etsy and also sell hundreds of them to my state's Halloween fair for 3k annually. I used to make a lot of money just doing cornhole tournaments but there are too many cheap tricks people use that ruined the fun for me.

My point is this;": Invest in yourself. You have every reason to pick things you're interested in so you can make money off it. Crypto was lazy money and I barely made anything these last few years on it save for dogecoin. The average man just needs to do fun, interesting things that work with your hands. Try not to over complicate these things. Silver and gold is down now too, buying a good amount now might open to a sustained high. Either way in a decade it will increase in value.


Oh and another thing remember to have mutual funds to store your money in during the crash. Once there is a crash, dump a lot of money into it. Mutual funds have BIG returns if you do it right.

Work remotely from a 3rd world country and get paid in USD

>>50307836
lurk more
r/Superstonk
r/GME
r/GMEJungle
r/FWFBThinkTank
r/PickleFinancial
i'm not gonna stay ITT and spoonfeed btw

>>50307836
Crypto is still the future, just short it.

>>50307836
dca into eth is your only chance, you missed last bull but there is always another.

>>50310268
this anon gets it

i agree OP, everyone is still so fucking bullish-- either yoloing 60-100k into random rallies, convinced the next bullrun is "just around the corner" within a few years or less, when anyone with half a fucking brain can see the macroeconomic conditions are beyond bleak. those who are still bullish are going to get fucking violated in the coming years until they submit, then itll turn around-- but like you, i doubt that happens within the next 10-20 years. its fucking stupid. even working is just a means to breakeven anymore. something has to give but fuck if i know what will or if conditions will ever improve within the next decade or so

>>50307836
imagine how hard I am laughing rn

>>50308582
>There's no guarantee there will be a next bull run
>a bull run is years away
Nigger you are fucking dumb

this is what I am doing rn. p comfy ngl

>>50307836
>Crypto was our one shot. If you haven't made it already you're probably eternally fucked.
Start buying in several months.

>>50314527
This, I'm gonna do this after the summer

>>50307836
>If you want to make money you have to be a bobo
You answered your own question. You ever think that being a bobo is the safest thing to be sometimes?

>>50307836
>tfw started my own handyman business in february
>if profits keep going the way they are ill make about $95k/yr
>only work 4 days a week
Should I even bother with investing at this point? I like working with my hands, and watching candles on a computer screen makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

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>>50307836
I feel sorry for all the anons that didn’t sell the bull runs.

>>50315868
>Should I even bother with investing at this point?
Investing is different than daytrading man, just but quality stuff with a long time horizon.

>>50307836
Its just over. It's time to accept being poor or work hard as fuck in the real world. The days of easy money are gone. It's fucking depressing as fuck.

>>50307901
Yep. At least we can say we tried.

>>50307836
Trade to survive.

>>50316788
Aka lose even more money trading poorly and still have nothing.

>>50316802
Most likely for most people, but this is a test of survival now.

already made back a lot of what i lost long some matic
Its super easy. These motherfuckers always drop announcements and shit so they pump regardless of how the market is acting
This was them literally yesterday

>>50308582

>>50307836
Get a job sonnyjim

>>50313527
And the entire Liberal World Order (their words, not mine) is in danger of unraveling because of some CP-infested slavic shithole normalfags could barely find on a map.

>>50307836
Accumulate rage.

>>50311579
Saccor brothers accept cryptocurrency payments via Utrust, at least those are my favorite clothing brands, and Cr7 is one of their big customers, so yes gradually crypto payment is gaining traction

>>50312959
>securit
Privacy projects I think will go a long way because of the solution it brings to the floor following the teeming cases of hacks across the space. I use a platform that is DEX integrated which makes onchain and in-app swaps possible.

>>50307836
Everything is fine.
Stop reading and watching all the fake news. It's designed to make you afraid and stupid.

>>50307836
Try the expensive liquor route, Anon. It’s the best and beats spy and qqq. Only jnug rips it’s face off. Liquor has been going up 10.3% but if you go the investment route, you’re looking at 257%. Wines take some care, but hard liquors are minimal. Worst case scenario, you can enjoy it yourself.

>>50318605
Let’s all get alcoholic together.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g9i_AmtzfIM

>>50307836
bottom signal

>>50307836
>for no fucking reason
To make the poor into one gender one race slave

>>50307836
Imagine living through WW 2. This life is easy mode. You have low T

My dog got diagnosed with an enlarged heart and tumor on his vertabrae today. I dont have any money for surgery and hes only a year old. Im so distraught risking a ban is the least of my worries. If there are any kind anons out there.

Btc:
31qAv9WoUEEMPNmjCqafJdRrJk3yqu7ygf

Ltc: MSakyyv7HMrAsYqRH8m4F4Vja1Et9ztaZJ

Eth:
0x1784c039f778ce35e5546e0aae63b1b05a6d0b9e

>>50307836
>Crypto was our one shot.
He doesn't know about commodities.

>>50319770
>Phoneposter
>Knowing he can evade bans
Fuck off you cunt fuck, I don't even have food or literal power, I'm using it from my neighbor since they piggyback off my internet which isn't shut off yet, but I'm sitting in a dark place with just the illumination of my computer, meanwhile you're just some scammy fucktard with a phone and all that shit lined up ready to post.

>>50319770
What's ironic is I have a tumor on my vertebrae and a failing heart, but I'm not a fucking dog or a greedy beggar.

>>50319888
Get well anon

>>50310390
We don’t have the resources to spur on another growth cycle like that after ww2- the huge boom in population of productive people ( German, English stock- non niggers) combined with extreme technical innovation and plenty of land to expand led to that prosperity boom- we’ve cut all the trees down and fertilized the earth- literally sterilizing the soil in most parts of ‘the west’ - fish stocks and wildlife is at an extreme all time low. Don’t know what to tell you- no boom ever again I’m afraid- not in our lifetime or the next 60 probably

>>50307836
Be greedy. Do the opposite of the consensus on /biz/. All of my salary besides what’s needed for expenses is going straight into crypto. There are probably better plays but cryptos are way easier, especially when accounting for taxes and my lack of will to deal with banks.

>>50320663
>my salary besides what’s needed for expenses is going straight into crypto.
Invest what you can afford to lose anonfag. Most new projects will fire without proper launching models. I believe this is the rise of IMOs

>>50311062
How out of touch do you have to be to believe your shiny magic metal has any worth in the world we're heading towards?
Do you people ever stop playing video games or browsing social media?

>>50320663

>>50319491
It was not as bad.

>>50308104
Agreed. Chads would wait for the next bull run while holding based assets. One of the the reasons why I'm in on Railgun as privacy would always be a need in the crypto ecosystem.

>>50312270
>Jews will print more paper gold and make it dump
Never be an exit liquidity for retarded devs with drug problems. Polygon is fast growing now, lots of Web3 solutions to make those quick profits off anonfag

im all in link since 2017 and missed the fcuking golden bull run,

i remember telling my gf to buy link instead of dogecoin. since then. she really liked dogecoin...

she would have had tens of millions of dollars had she been buying dogecoin since 2017...


yea guess what 6 year relationship ended this year....

fcuking kek man,,,, fcuking kek

>>50321701
Problems of flat launches and dead coins are soon to be solved with the introduction of Kolnet marketing launchpad

We have to reach deep into ourselves and buy dangerous amounts of vinu of course, only the bsc casino can save us now

>>50307836
there will always be more opportunities my retard friend. you just have to stop being a whiny bitch and look for them

>>50307836
I agree with you. We got fucking pwned by the macro enviroment. I am depressed as fuck right now

>>50309391
A bull run by eoy won't be bad at all anon. I've been seeing a lot of development in the Metaverse lately and it's getting the attention of sports legends like Messi and Ronaldo. I'm looking forward to mass adoption.

>>50307836
I smell a noob posting. This is just a cycle and you don't have to cry over it OP. It's the best opportunity for you to get generational wealth again. If you don't know what to accumulate just get ATOM, SCRT and BNB. stake as much as you can and come thank me in the next 3 years.

>>50321972
The metaverse is a bit shitty and nothing really going on. I've just got to start seeing some big players coming in though. Lox also announced they will be providing security to curb data breach issues. Let's see what happens in the future but nothing is really happening now.

>>50307836
There are still dividend stocks or etf's. You can buy 3 etf's that pay quarterly, each in different months so you get monthly dividend.
Its not much but still motivaing, you can increase it by reinvesting or investing your wage-surplus.

>>50321576
A world where the US is declining as a hegemon and the dollar will fail to be the safe global default reserve currency?

>>50307836
>there's a war (for no fucking reason)

if you think there's no reason for the war it makes sense that you're the kind of person who thinks they should be rich from magic internet coins.

>>50310390
>It will be bad for a decade or so but afterwards we could emerge stronger than ever.

impossible. there are no new affordable enerfy sources to make that happen.

>>50321576
>>50322453
Its not the end of the world, everytime a nation/order collapses, a new nation/order/government arises with some sort of currency.
So you can still exchange your precious metals for the new currency.

While you invested in "education," I invested in silence.
While you invested in "money," I invested in feeling.
While you braved the risk of gambling, I braved the risk of seeking the ineffable.
I put it all into tilling the soil of my own soul.
I never pimped out my quiet quest, and my grand visions.
Hours and hours a day, for decades, doing nothing, absolutely nothing, but practicing art of all mediums.
And now I am like a thousand-armed lunatic, so burning with inspiration and artistic terror, the screeching of the machine that creates The New absolutely blares from my pupils like jet engines.
The world now belongs to The Artist, the biggest green dildo of them al. Watch and see, nigger! AI will not be the dominator, but the dominated, the trillion-man slave beast on the billion-acre cotton farm. MASSA IS HOME!

>>50321972
The Ronaldo partnership could be a turning point for NFTs. Honeyland is building a Web3 ecosystem for gamers with open APIs for development

>>50307901
Who cares. In just 100 years you and everyone you’ve ever known will be dead anyway.