/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50281037
DUBS AND THE EURO NEVER RECOVERS

TRIPS AND THE AUD IS WORTH MORE EOY

>>50281037
based

Euro will collapse
Check em

>>50281037
EU won't exist in 5 years.
Source - it was revealed to me in a dream.

>>50281037
>>50281047
>>50281048
>>50281057
Attention screeching poors. I told you all to short this pair.

>>50281037
>europe is collapsing after fucking with putin
Americans are shorting the euro. Just like last time after the housing crash.
Roll for euro never recovers.

>>50281037
euro-kuffars are btfo mashallah

>>50281037
importing millions of shitskin parasites and letting some braindead feminists run your shithole did not turn our so great, did it, europoors ?

>>50281037
can we ban immigration already

>>50281037
USD is next though.

>>50281112
how do i short it when there is no euro stable coin? checkmate, boomer

When eu changes rates next year you’ll see a massive reversal hahahahhjhjshhshah *sweating*

>>50281047
rolling for the most hellish environment for my in-laws over there

>>50281164
millions of shitskins literally did nothing bad for the memeconomy
protecting the biden family's interests in ukraine is what did us in
if you look beyond infantile blue team red team narratives, this is a perfect example of the real state of the world
most people are superfluous = worsening demographics hardly matter because 80 iq shitskin or 100 iq white are equally meaningless. most of the value is created by an extreme minority of which we are oversupplied with. everything else is at best replaceable labor and at worst pretend jobs
on the other hand, energy is energy. once you screw with the supply, the dominos start to fall

*yawn* nobody wants euros.

>>50281037
60%+ Inflation and the currency is now worth 20% less
What is the best way to short Europe?

>>50281240
Holy shit do zoomers even

>>50281309
>millions of shitskins literally did nothing bad for the memeconomy

>>50281047
fuck you anon

>>50281366
Based and checked eurochad
I still moved all of my crappy euro pegged currency to USD though

>>50281366
based eurobro

>>50281380
>>50281389
i know bros nothing against us normal people trying to make a penny, we will rise, although i think all current eu governments should be prosecuted for high treason for putting us in this fucking situation

>>50281037
€ is already dead

>>50281037
no that's the us fucking with Putin and pushing EU into the fire. Atlantic jew slaves.

>>50281683
no one forced you to be slaves for the american jews

>>50281164
It's amazing how we listened to eurofags shit on Americans for so long only for them to speedrun the exact same collapse. Turns out boiling frogs isn't hard, most of them just happily jump into the pot.

>>50281037
>>50281037
No, it's collapsing after years of mingling with Russia. The US is punishing Europe for doing so.

>>50281037
>The sanctions are working

>>50281037
It's their fault for being America's bitches. If they didn't sanction themselves this wouldn't have happened

>>50281112
What the best entry right now?

>>50281037
This will fuck big euro countries. But boost small euro countries.

>>50282209
It's collapsing becouse idiocy of leadership. Why start beef whit country who's tit you are sucking.

>>50281112
But now it is time to buy

>>50281037
communism loses once again
see you in the bread lines, europoors, maybe you shouldn't have joined the european communist union

Wish GBPEUR was doing as well as USDEUR. I've got funds in GBP waiting to make a final 400k EUR payment on a house in Italy.

>>50282348

It better be a kickass house for 400k in Italy.

>>50282225
What did Russia achieved so far? Conquer 10% of Ukraine in exchange for becoming the most sanctioned state in the world and more countries joining NATO?

>>50282225
What did Russia achieve so far? Conquer 10% of Ukraine in exchange for becoming the most sanctioned state in the world and more countries joining NATO?

>>50282420
How are those sanctions working out so far? kek
Europe is in utter turmoil.

>>50282209
Yeah, other than shutting down your economies for a cold, inflating worse than the Fed, and trusting the Russians in a business deal, it’s totally the Americans’ fault

>>50281037
DANGER WILL

>>50282448
They can't import high tech, they can't import cars, they can't import anything. Where do you think they are going to be in 10-20 years? Sanctions are long-term.

>>50282492
CAN IT GO NEGATIVE?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>50282442
Overly the map of Russian controlled territory on a resource map of Ukraine.

>>50282385
It is, but it's also near a very expensive small city in the north so that's pumped the price up relative to what I'd get for example in the south.

>>50282317

That's what I just said. Mingling with Russia was/is idiocy.

>>50282489

I didn't mean it that way. Either way, we had this coming, I guess.

>>50282510
>CAN IT GO NEGATIVE?!
no, when it hits 1:1 it will be renamed USD/USD locking in the ratio.

>>50282506
so is cutting off the gas and oil.

>>50282177
They were so damn smug for so many years about not spending any money on their defense and now they’re getting rolled and coming to us with their hand out.

>>50282517
Let's say they increased the resources that they control by 1%. That's not enough to offset the situation they got themselves into.

>>50282545
Sorry for rubbing it in, assumed you were one of the EU sycophants that immediately starts blaming the CIA whenever it turns out that the EU leadership aren’t the invincible science-driven godkings that EU sycophants think they are

>>50281112
yeah yeah yeah... just short euro gais.
what are sl and tp anyways? look gais i told u poors to short, look how i am right kek

>>50282506
They'll be fine. Mazes aplenty.

We, Eurocucks, on the other hand. LOL.

>>50282608
Yeah, they are sanctioned heavier than Iran. Sure they'll be fine.

>>50282605
Hello schizo. seek help

>>50282506
They have teir chinese frens, europeans in the other hand have months to resolve the gas crisis before they freeze

>>50282635
Stuck in your own dream. I feel for you.

Iran != Russia, obviously.

>>50282635
says the europoor who can't afford food or heating, while ahmed and his 10 kids next door still gets their welfare check

>>50282647
nobody has schizo but you lmao. you make calls with 0 sl and tp and think you're some hot shit on here. congrats, now bye. if you still here, you didnt make it yet. real rich don't waste time on here.

>>50282647
You were telling people to long it on discord last week. What a broke faggot. Do not reply as I won't read it as I won't be reading this thread again.

So how low will eurobucks go?

>>50282608
Yuropoors, you're not cucks you're just poor.

>>50282659
He doesn't want to get it. Let him dream.

>>50281366
Burgers eternally BTFO, euros just keep winning

>>50282506
Sanctions from the west means nothing because the west makes nothing except for Germany industry that is dependent on Russian gas. They can get everything the country needs from the East.

>>50282726
Lololololol

Does this indicate the beginning of the collapse of the European Union?

>>50282753
God I hope so. I want out. I fucking hate the southern nations so fucking much it’s unreal. Lazy cunts.

Not so smug are ya, now?

>>50282659
>They have teir chinese frens
Do they? China is buying resources from Russia like rest of the world does, but so far I've only seen news about Chinese firms stopping doing business with Russia to avoid sanctions.

>>50282663
What dream? Do you think Russia is going to suddenly build their own semiconductor fabs?

>>50282442
>high oil and gas prices
>captured plain fields with the most fertile soil on earth
>so fertile even the chinks tried stealing from the ukies
>unified homefront, most of the local libtards were purged
>EU getting spitroasted raw by both Mutts and Vatniks

>>50282753
They’ll survive, but only as a vegetable sustained on a steady diet of American cum

>>50282869
>high oil and gas prices
On which they make huge profits. The problem is, they can't buy anything with that money.

Overall a horrible return on investment for Russia and shitty outcome for humanity as a whole.

>>50282918
FINALLY I get to post this ancient meme again.

>>50282966
Wakey wakey, little wagey.

>they can't buy anything with that money

>>50282590
Russia currently controls 12 of the 15 nuclear power plants in Ukraine. They control about half of the oil. Russia controls Ukraine's access to the sea, and their grain market. Russia currently has a great deal of control over the global price of grain and fuel. There is nothing being done today that is going to change that reality.

any live trackers?

>>50283073
>no arguments
>reaction.gif
Don't be mad.

>>50283131
>Russia currently controls 12 of the 15 nuclear power plants in Ukraine
I decided to verify this and started googling.

Turns out that there are only 4 active power plants, not 15. Out of those four, only one is captured by Russia.

Ignored rest of your post.

>Americans literally exit scammed on Europe by pulling them into a sanction war with Russia

Thanks for serving your American overlords!

>>50281366
As a fellow euro, I agree it will recover...but that doesn't mean we can go lower before it does so burgers can fool themselves into thinking it'll never happen to them too.

>>50283365
When did the other NPPs go offline? Maybe at the start of the war? And given they are offline, they can be easily restarted. So who's going to get all of that free electricity.

>>50282506
>they can't import anything.
Anyting from the EU and North America. In other words, funko pops, some luxury goods and anti-white ideology. Russia can do just fine without it. All the necessary things are already made by China and other Asian countries, which are not sanctioning Russia.
>Where do you think they are going to be in 10-20 years?
They will still be majority Russian, and their children wont be forced to become fag or trannies. Unlike the West.

>>50283577
>When did the other NPPs go offline?
They didn't go offline, they were unfinished NPPs. Easy to check, but it seems you're not interested in being objective.

>>50283605
not true. the west has a monopoly on semiconductors. almost every piece of electronics in the russian military was made by a western company.

>>50283605
>All the necessary things are already made by China and other Asian countries, which are not sanctioning Russia.
That's wrong. All their export industries, especially the energy industry, are dependent on inputs from the West to keep working. Doesn't necessarily mean they won't be able to get their hands on that stuff but it'll be more difficult.

>>50282083
>no one forced you to be slaves for the american jews
There was literally a world war over it, anon. Millions of them died trying to prevent that outcome.

>>50283365
>Ukraine has 15 Russian-design nuclear power reactors at four locations generating half of Ukraine’s electricity; seven units are currently in operation.
>Only 4 plants
You are the dumbest blackest illiterate nigger.

https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/04/27/civil-nuclear-energy-risks-from-russia-s-invasion-of-ukraine-pub-87064

>>50283605
>Anyting from the EU and North America
And all the other countries that don't want to anger the US. No high tech, no cars, no planes, no sophisticated medical equipment. Nothing.

>>50283684
>the west has a monopoly on semiconductors.
China already makes some semiconductors. Not the top of the line, but in a few years they will have catch up
> almost every piece of electronics in the russian military was made by a western company.
Wrong, Russia has a rudimentary production of semiconductors, mostly for military use.
>are dependent on inputs from the West to keep working.
Such has? The West does not produce that machinery, China does, even if it has a Western label in the end. Russians have been pumping oil from Russia for over 100 years, they will do fine.

>>50283709
>Ukraine operates four nuclear power plants with 15 reactors located in Volhynia and South Ukraine.
Rivne NPP, Khmelnytskyi NPP, South Ukraine NPP are controlled by Ukraine.

The only NPP that Russians control is the Zaporizhzhia NPP.

>>50283754
>And all the other countries that don't want to anger the US.
What is the US going to do lol? USA can boss around the European shitholes and cuck Japanese, but most others aren't going to be as easy.
Why did all the nations in the world except EU, anglosphere and east asian vassals "angered USA" by not sanctioning Russia?

>>50283832
>Zaporizhzhia NPP
One location. 6 reactors at Zaporizhzhia.

>>50283844
>What is the US going to do lol?
Sanction them? Everyone wants to be friends with US and nobody wants to be their enemy.

>>50283881
And you claimed that Russians control 12 / 15 reactors (you said plants, but whatever).

goldcucks bent the knee to king dollar

>>50283912
>Sanction them?
lmao, if sanctioning the whole world is your plan, then go ahead and do it. Sanction China and India first, btw.

>>50281037
strong support at 0

>>50283912
>Reactor/plants
Really splitting hairs on this cope. The point is, Russia controls Ukraine's nuclear power, and Ukraine ain't getting it back.

>>50283912

>>50283951
You lied that they control 12 out of 15 reactors. Now it turns out that it's only 6 reactors. Cope.

>>50281037
>after fucking with putin
ehm no?
after printing trillions from thin air during coronameme

>>50283933
>>50283969
Did you forget to change your ID?

>>50283791
>The West does not produce that machinery, China does, even if it has a Western label in the end
They buy all kinds of specialized equipment corporations. China doesn't produce all that type of stuff.

>Russians have been pumping oil from Russia for over 100 years, they will do fine
Using Western technology. Even during the cold war they imported/reversed engineered tech.

>>50283993
But the US did the same thing, if anything they printed even more than the EU did.

>>50284029
>But the US did the same thing,
yes, and you are hiking interest rates all year but europa cant do it because that would hurt really bad spain/ italy, greece etc so this is what happens when you dont do shit.
This has nothing to do with putin, stop believing russian propaganda lol

>>50284024
cope
>>50284028
>They buy all kinds of specialized equipment corporations.
Such has? All of those things are already made in China, even if it has a western label. It will just be a matter of exchanging producers, or even procuring it locally. Some short term damage, but no real long term damage
>Using Western technology.
What a massive cope lol. USSR was always isolated from Western tech

>>50284066
>All of those things are already made in China

He said specialized, sure China might produce the separate pieces but the assembling is done in the first world since they don't have the expertise to do it, have you ever seen their vehicles? There is a reason why rich fags there only buy european or japanese cars, let's not even talk about agricultural or construction vehicles.

>>50284056
The ECB could buy those countries national debt, politically Germany doesn't want that though. Paying out more interest to banks and making loans more expensive isn't going to increase the energy supply, America isn't experience a real shock in the same way

>>50284066
>Such has?
Go look into their imports by industry.

>USSR was always isolated from Western tech
Ford and other companies literally built plants there in the 20s, lend-lease during WWII sent a ton of tech there, not to mention the espionage to get designs all throughout cold war with some outright foreign investment again starting in the 70s

>>50284192
That mufuh has axed you for examples like four or five times now and you keep replying but you can't name one example. How fucking full of shit are you, lol?

>>50284143
Oh great, so western industry is nothing else but assembling things done by others? And you think assembling is the most technically challenging part of building machines? lol
If China can make the small components, then they can assemble it.
>they don't have the expertise to do it,
source? China already makes everything, maybe not top of the line of everything, but they make everything. China educates more STEM graduates in a year that the whole West in 5. All industrial production in Europe requires Chinese inputs to work.
>There is a reason why rich fags there only buy european or japanese cars
Status symbols. Which just brings me back to my initial point, the only thing West still makes is luxury goods.

>>50281047
Singles and the euro recovers

>>50283984
>15 reactors
Please stop getting your news (((reliable sources))).

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-t-z/ukraine.aspx

>>50284192
>Go look into their imports by industry.
The only real example i have ever heard is semiconductors, which is a valid example, because China can't make the latest top of the line. A couple of years ago you had ball bearings, but China already makes it. But other than this mutts can't ever name anything, i wonder why....
>Ford and other companies literally built plants there in the 20s
USSR(Russia) is incapable of advancing on its own because Ford made some plants there during the 20's? Russia never extracted its oil on its own because Ford made some plants? Russia was extracting oil before USSR was a thing btw

>lend-lease during WWII sent a ton of tech there
Source? Reversed engineered tech you mean? You are just saying that the Russians are capable and smart.

>>50284284
The link that you posted also says 15 reactors you dumb shill

>>50284233
>so western industry is nothing else but assembling things done by others? And you think assembling is the most technically challenging part of building machines? lol

Assembling and research, sure China could assemble things with good quality but they need the skills of westerners or koreans/japanese to do so.

>If China can make the small components, then they can assemble it.

They don't even know how to manifacture those things for first world standards unless someone else directs their research and refines their work, that is why their products are of such low quality compared to what they do produce with foreign help.

>>50284361
Are you really arguing reactors/NPPs? Ok, beyond semantics, the point is, Russia controls most of the energy in the Ukraine and no one is getting it back from Russia. As that applies to this thread, the Euro is fucked. But hey, look on the bright side. The sanctions are working and the Avengers will swoop in soon to take out Putler.

>>50281037
>a-at least we BTFO'd putin...
the absolute state of eurocucks

>>50281240
gains.trade

>>50284433
>Are you really arguing reactors/NPPs?
I'm not. You pretend that I do so that you can derail the conversation.

You lied that Russia controls 12 out of 15 reactors/NPPs in Ukraine. They only control 6 of them.

Cope.

>>50284415
>Assembling and research
Look at the speed China is evolving, 10 years ago they couldn't make microchips and nowadays they make products equivalent to what the West did 5 years ago. China can research, don't worry
>but they need the skills of westerners
This is no longer the 70's, there are practically no more skilled manufacturing workers in the West. Like you said, manufacturing in the West is glorified assembling.
>They don't even know how to manifacture those things for first world standards
what a cope lol, they have been making things with "first world standards" for decades.
Every manufactured thing is partially made in China, from the best to the worst.

>>50284485
May want to check your math.

>>50283912
The sheer arrogance in this post

It is not the 1990s anymore, we are not a hegemon. The majority of the world is standing with Russia. Our inability to understand this is going to be the death of the West as a center of the world. Hell arguably it’s already too late, the center of the world is Chinese manufacturing. Outside of American agriculture and specialized manufacturing in some other countries the West doesn’t make anything. Russia and China, from a material perspective, make better partners. Until that is fixed and the West actually makes stuff again, this whole hegemony we enjoy is living on borrowed time.

>>50282209
US apologists are deranged.
Death to America.

>>50284570
>May want to check your math.
Sure, let's check it.

Rivne NPP = 4 reactors, 2600 MW
Khmelnytskyi NPP = 2 reactors, 2000 MW
South Ukraine NPP = 3 reactors, 2850 MW
Zaporizhzhia NPP = 6 reactors, 5700 MW

Only Zaporizhzhia is controlled by Russia.

You lied.

>>50281112
No one cares about you, you stupid fuck. Stop trying to sound like you're a good trader, poorfag

>>50283881
It's not whatever, you should fucking shotgun the top of your mouth you slimy shitstain. Next time own your retardation, salvage a little honor.

>>50284549
All i am seeing is that their buildings and cars are deathtraps, their philosophy is to build cheap so nothing lasts for long and you can build again, it does work for their standards but not ours.

>they have been making things with "first world standards" for decades

For the first world, not for them. Even their military is very subpar and just reuses stuff they buy from Russia.

>>50281366
IT'S OGRE!

>>50284743
>All i am seeing is that their buildings and cars are deathtraps
According to what? Webms that get posted on /pol/ hundreds of times a week? Imagine if you treated the west with the same level of scrutiny.

>>50284574
>The majority of the world is standing with Russia
lol

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/3/unga-resolution-against-ukraine-invasion-full-text

>>50284743
>All i am seeing is that their buildings and cars are deathtraps, their philosophy is to build cheap so nothing lasts for long and you can build again, it does work for their standards but not ours.
In other words, you have a vision of China made by mainstream media, and you refuse to adapt. This is called cope.
Again, all the equipment you consider top tier is partially/wholly made in China
>For the first world, not for them.
ahahahah, cope
>Even their military is very subpar
We will see. Even if Chinese soldiers are a bunch of ladyboy wimps (i don't think they are), Chinese manufacturing capacity will make them a force to be reckoned with.
In a war all initial stockpiles are exhausted in a matter of weeks/months, after that you can only spend what you produce. Keep this in mind.

>>50284773
Holy shit a chink shill, Winnie the Pooh

>>50282776
NGL but the third world might see the first world fall but they will still miss the old days

>>50284805
>you have a vision of China made by mainstream media
I think it's less to do with mainstream media and more to do with /gif/ rekt threads, not that it's any less of a distorted view on reality.

>>50284802
This is thought and prayers. Also the text doesn't mention the word "invasion" one single time, they cucked out to Russia lmao

>>50281037
Mit der Einführung der Reichsmark wird das alles in Ordnung kommen
0x96F3E400a312676e7E8591681cbA66d77B9C0043

>>50284870
Ah yes, achsually the whole world is with Russia. They just don't want to show it in any way.

>>50282177
americans immigrants usually work, in europe they mostly welfare all and dont even learn the native language. big differnce in cultures. also eu migrants mostly africans while americans catholic from mexico or kuba

>>50284941
They showed it by not sanctioning Russia.

>>50284805
Their demographics doom them. In the 1960s there were born 27m Chinese babies annually. IN 2021 that number had declined to a mere 9m. And it will continue falling.

>>50284805
Their demographics doom them. In the 1960s there were born 27m Chinese babies annually. In 2021 that number had declined to a mere 9m. And it will continue decreasing. The Chinks are an inferior race on the path toward extinction.

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https://youtu.be/Jo_-KoBiBG0

>>50284962
Not stabbing someone is barely a show of support.

All countries are either explicitly against Russia or neutral to them.

I have shorted the Euro, it is likely to fall perhaps 10% more in the coming months

>>50285048
>Their demographics doom
What demographic doom? They still have 10 million newborns per year that still are 93% Han Chinese, with a average IQ of 105 and are taught to be nationalistic. Meanwhile in the West the combined amount of newborns does not reach 10 million, with 20-40% of them being non white.
In Germany the newborns are already majority non German, in USA that mark was reached some years ago. There is no demographic doom in China, there is one in the West. China needs to decrease its population either way.
>>50285073
>Not stabbing someone is barely a show of support.
It is when there is someone pointing a gun at your head demanding you to stab them. The West made enormous pressure on the whole world to sanction Russia, and all the world (except Singapore) resisted it. Cope.
Just barely 10 years ago the West tried to do the same to Iran, and they were quite sucessful at it, they did pressure alot of the third world to sanction Iran. Just to see how fast the West is declining.
>All countries are either explicitly against Russia or neutral to them.
You base that on a thoughts and prayers message on UN? Westerners really are out of their minds, westerners believe their fairy tale world created by mass media is reality.

>>50285151
>Just barely 10 years ago the West tried to do the same to Iran, and they were quite sucessful at it
Anon, Russia is more sanctioned than Iran at this point.

>>50282789
>I've only seen news about Chinese firms stopping doing business with Russia to avoid sanctions
>I've been watching NPC propaganda!! It's over for Russia!

>>50285048
How many white babies are being born in western countries? Not a single white country has a birthrate above replacement level, in fact countries like Germany have been naturally declining in terms of population since the 20th century. The only reason western populations aren’t decreasing on paper is massive immigration from the second and third world, native Europeans are going extinct rapidly.

>>50285199
More sanctioned by the West. Iran was sanctioned by many countries other than the West. Big difference. Also the West is increasingly irrelevant in the world stage. The Iran example was just me pointing out how the West is losing diplomatic power at a staggering rate

>>50285224
>On 6 March 2022, Sberbank, Alfa Bank and Tinkoff Bank reported several Russian banks would switch to UnionPay after Visa and Mastercard said they would suspend operations in Russia due to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
>On 20 April 2022, UnionPay reportedly discontinued cooperation with major Russian banks including Sberbank. Russian media outlet RBC stated that they did so out of fear of secondary sanctions.
I really need to stop slurping that NPC propaganda.

>>50284809
Well he has a point. Imagine if in chink land they were constantly bombarding chinks with videos of Teslas caughting fire and not responding to user input. Would you say that is representative of western manufacturing?

>>50284574
>It is not the 1990s anymore, we are not a hegemon.
Well that's what happens when a culture goes from exporting chads to exporting trannies

>>50285048
>The Chinks are an inferior race on the path toward extinction.

>>50281047
Roll

>>50283791
>China already makes some semiconductors. Not the top of the line, but in a few years they will have catch up

Lol, they are nowhere near close to catching up in a "few years". This is how I know you are a larping idiot.

>>50285151
>In Germany the newborns are already majority non German

Source?

>There is no demographic doom in China

False, their population is expected to halve in less than 40 years according to their own estimates, kek. Their working population is already decreasing, and the dependency ratio is rising rapidly. The inferior bugmen are dying out.

>>50285151
CHING CHONGS ARE GOING EXTINCT MUAHAHAHHA

"If a new study is to be believed, China could face a disastrous drop in its population within just 30 years.

China's aging population and decreasing birth rate have had its government on high alarm lately, with new census data revealing an even more significant drop in new births than expected, the South China Morning Post reports. Based on that data and an overall reluctance to have more kids, the country's population could be cut in half as soon as the year 2050, according to research published in the Journal of Xi'an University of Finance and Economics."

https://futurism.com/the-byte/china-population-half-30-years

Dollar milkshake theory is happening. This is not a pivotal switch moment, it is a notable moment in a gradual happening that has been going on for years.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220531-why-chinas-population-is-shrinking

"The world's biggest nation is about to shrink.

China accounts for more than one-sixth of the world's population, yet after four extraordinary decades in which the country’s population has swelled from 660 million to 1.4 billion, its population is on track to turn down this year, for the first time since the great famine of 1959-1961.

According to the latest figures from China's National Bureau of Statistics, China's population grew from 1.41212 billion to just 1.41260 billion in 2021 – a record low increase of just 480,000, a mere fraction of the annual growth of eight million or so common a decade ago.

While a reluctance to have children in the face of strict anti-Covid measures might have contributed to the slowdown in births, it has been coming for years.

China's total fertility rate (births per woman) was 2.6 in the late 1980s – well above the 2.1 needed to replace deaths. It has been between 1.6 and 1.7 since 1994, and slipped to 1.3 in 2020 and just 1.15 in 2021."

Kek, the US have a fertility rate of 1.7-1.8.

CHING CHONG ARE DYING OUT LMAOO

The Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences team predicts an annual average decline of 1.1% after 2021, pushing China's population down to 587 million in 2100, less than half of what it is today.

The reasonable assumptions behind that prediction are that China's total fertility rate slips from 1.15 to 1.1 between now and 2030, and remains there until 2100.

The rapid decline will have a profound impact on China's economy.

China's working-age population peaked in 2014 and is projected to shrink to less than one-third of that peak by 2100. China's elderly population (aged 65 and above) is expected to continue to climb for most of that time, passing China's working-age population near 2080.

This means that while there are currently 100 working-age people available to support every 20 elderly people, by 2100, 100 working-age Chinese will have to support as many as 120 elderly Chinese.

The annual average decline of 1.73% in China's working-age population sets the scene for much lower economic growth, unless productivity advances rapidly.

Higher labour costs, driven by the rapidly shrinking labour force, are set to push low-margin, labour-intensive manufacturing out of China to labour-abundant countries such as Vietnam, Bangladesh and India.

Already, manufacturing labour costs in China are twice as high as in Vietnam.

At the same time, China will be required to direct more of its productive resources to provision of health, medical and aged-care services to meet the demands of an increasingly elderly population.

Modelling by the Centre of Policy Studies at Victoria University in Australia suggests that without changes to China's pension system, its pension payments will grow five-fold from 4% of GDP in 2020 to 20% of GDP in 2100.

For resource-exporting nations such as Australia, these changes are likely to require a reorientation of exports towards manufacturers outside China. For importers of goods including the United States, the source of goods is set to gradually shift towards new and emerging centres of manufacturing.

Despite forecasts that this will be "the Chinese century", these population projections suggest influence might move elsewhere – including to neighbouring India, whose population is expected to overtake China within this coming decade.

>>50283754
Because Europe is the only part of the world that produces such things *and* there aren't any loopholes (Asia) to get those things, right?

Russia doesn't have to give two shits about us nor our SaNcTiOns and won't.

Keep seething, sir.

>>50281047
Euro won't just recover. It will cease to exist

>>50285624
>CHING CHONG ARE DYING OUT LMAOO
he says this as whites are literally castrating themselves and their own children.

>>50286016
The inferior bugmen species is finally dying out at a rapid pace.

"Over the last five years, the number of births in China has been rapidly declining, from a high of 18.83 million in 2016 to 17.65 million in 2017, 15.23 million in 2018, 14.65 million in 2019, 12 million in 2020, and 10.62 million in 2021, with an average annual reduction of 1.64 million.

The total fertility rate (number of births per woman) dropped from 1.77 in 2016 to 1.15 last year, making China one of the countries with the lowest fertility rate. While the results are alarming to many, they are not so surprising to demographers." - Chen Wei, professor at the Center for Population and Development Studies, Renmin University of China.

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-01-19/What-s-behind-China-s-population-entering-the-zero-growth-zone--16WsLx7M89y/index.html

"Even more worrisome is that their working-age population is set to decline by 1.73% ANNUALLY. This will have a disastrous impact on their economic growth, as the number of pensioners (the +65 age segment) will eclipse the number of workers. This means that while there are currently 100 working-age people available to support every 20 elderly people, by 2100, 100 working-age Chinese will have to support as many as 120 elderly Chinese. "

https://theconversation.com/chinas-population-is-about-to-shrink-for-the-first-time-since-the-great-famine-struck-60-years-ago-heres-what-it-means-for-the-world-176377

Picrel is China's working-age population compared with its 65+ population.

China will never recover from this.It's over for Ching Chong bros.

>>50281037
I wish there was some sort of a final solution for Europe's problems...

>>50286087
Are you Taiwanese by chance?

>>50285780
>Because Europe is the only part of the world that produces such things *and* there aren't any loopholes (Asia) to get those things, right?
Quite literally yes.

>>50286182
>>50286182
As said, you're dreaming.

>>50286087
>th-there will be less Chinese
And? China could lose 1 billion people and still outnumber any one white nation in terms of numbers. Besides, it’s not quantity that matters but quality. One tiny island called Britain with a population of a few millions easily subjugated the entire Indian subcontinent that had hundreds of millions. China and the rest of East Asia will decline in terms of population, but they will remain ethnically homogeneous while they do so. Meanwhile, not a single white western country has a positive birthrate. You admitted yourself that >>50285624 the US has a fertility rate of 1.7 which is BELOW replacement. That means that the Western countries will shrink just like China, just at a slightly slower place, or use mass immigration to prop up the numbers. Most major white countries are picking option B, and as a result 50% of Americans under age 15 are not white. Sure, your total population may not decrease as much, but at what cost? Already many Western European countries are being replaced. For example 1/4 of German residents aren’t even ethnically German. If you think China is getting the worse deal here you’re blind and can’t think in the long term.

>>50286486
I noticed, you didn't say anything besides that.

>>50281164
Where can i find stats like this?

>>50283969
>speed dial
/biz/ confirmed for oldest board on the website.

>>50284802
Correct, the majority of the world is China and India. Only nation that even comes close in pop is America and they are leagues behind.

YOU DO? YOU AMERICANS, YOU DO REALLY? HA, YOU REALLY AMERICANS.

>>50285557
America's actual population, as in actually white working people is already quartered since the 60's. It takes 5 shitskins to make up for the productivity of a single chink. We are not going to make it into the next century because fucking retards like you have fucked the country and our entire race along with it because you couldn't stop watching CNN.

>>50285587
Yeah, so were the Japanese apparently yet they are still the 4th largest economy in the world with 1/3 the population of America.

>>50281047
Rolling for the Aussie Dollar

>>50285670
>muh social security
China can just end it, meanwhile in America everyone already acknowledges they won't be receiving SS in their future because its only propped by fucking lazy spics. Your ego is the death of this country. I'm poor and powerless so all I can do is laugh but it will be so fucking funny when your legacy and children are erased and raped away by the chinese all because you wanted to prove those ebil nazis wrong.

So then dollar milkshake is habbening isnt it?

>>50281037
Our currency is a fucking joke I've decided to start buying dollars to try retain some value.

>>50281037
It's fucking over ukraine cuck bros.....

In the end US wins and everyone loses, classic.
EU would need to dump USD and peg their euro in to commodities, its easier to just end the sanctions.
Meanwhile US that should have their currency melt because of the printer going ultrabrrr, but war happens and oil pushes dollar up.
Putin and whoever rules USA are in casshoots

>>50281037
Thank god I had my bank lock in my euros at $1.2 last year.

>>50286533
>For example 1/4 of German residents aren’t even ethnically German. If you think China is getting the worse deal here you’re blind and can’t think in the long term.

Source or BTFO

>>50286961
>China can just end it

No, they can't, you fucking moron. They literally removed the 1-child policy in 2015, in a desperate attempt to incentives Chink women to give birth to more chinkcels. The results?
China can just end it

Over the last five years, the number of births in China has been rapidly declining, from a high of 18.83 million in 2016 to 17.65 million in 2017, 15.23 million in 2018, 14.65 million in 2019, 12 million in 2020, and 10.62 million in 2021, with an average annual reduction of 1.64 million.
The total fertility rate (number of births per woman) dropped from 1.77 in 2016 to 1.15 last year, making China one of the countries with the lowest fertility rate. While the results are alarming to many, they are not so surprising to demographers." - Chen Wei, professor at the Center for Population and Development Studies, Renmin University of China.

>>50287155
https://www.dw.com/en/german-population-with-immigrant-background-reaches-new-peak-in-2017/a-44906046
This is just 2017. It's probably has gotten even worse over the past 5 years

>>50281112
REMEMBER GUYS THAT TIME THIS FAGGOT COULDN'T COUNT TO 12

>>50287189
Most of these immigrants have a European background, such as Polish or Russian. They are White and will easily assimilate within a single generation. The "other migrant background" is actually entirely made up of White immigrants, with very few shitskins.

>>50287216
Stfu dude we all know Germany is getting BLACKED and will follow France in becoming an African nation in 20 years. UK and Sweden will be Muslim countries by 2028. Digits and green ID confirm check em

>>50287216
>Most of these immigrants have a European background
Source or BTFO

>>50288844
The source is literally on the map and is evident to everyone who has every been to Germany, kek

>>50281047
USDC will be the global currency after WW3 everyone knows

>>50289220
>evident to everyone who has every been to Germany
That would be non-Europeans all over every city, kek. Guess you're BTFO, then.

>>50289321
Never been to Germany, kek. Dumb mutt, stop the kikes from fucking up the world

>>50281037
EURISISSIES NOT LIKE THIS

>>50289628
>stop the kikes from fucking up the world
Okay, I'll get right on that, Chief.

>>50281037
Its comfy, dollars would be better looking back but good enough

>>50281047
AUD can suck my Lillywhite Yankee asshole

Russia did nothing wrong and eurocucks should be happy they're still selling gas to them for being such cunts

>>50281037
why did putin bother with the disastrous military campaign? he should have turned off the pipelines and demand eastern ukraine as payments.

Euro should never have been worth more than the dollar, what a joke!

Who /dollar/ here?