/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50268888
Retard. I knew to do that when I was 16 and already had a plan hashed out when I went to college at 18.

>>50268888
"do what you love" was valid advice back in like the 1950-1970s when the US population was <50% of what it is today while third world shitholes like china, india, bangladesh were in the stone age and not viable targets for outsourcing. if you had a degree back then, you could basically do whatever you wanted and still make good money.

>>50268888
Just skip the college at 30 meme and start in sales you baboon

>>50268888
>36

you are 8 years older than me and I think I am too old to start over, at least I earn 6k€ best of luck pops

>>50269075
>start in sales you baboon

That's what I've been doing

What is it like at 36? I'm 10 years younger than you and it already feels like it's beyond over. What the fuck do you do at 36 if you haven't made it by then AND haven't already made peace with it (which is apparent since youre still trying)
You're like a zombie

>>50269335

You just don't care. You do your own thing

>>50269203
What do you sell, fellow saleschad. I sell sensors.

>>50269043
100% this. Boomer parents told their kids to do what they love because in the world they grew up in, it didn’t matter what you did as long as you weren’t completely retarded you were practically guaranteed to become middle class - house, wife, kids, etc. That’s also why some of them think millennials/Gen Z are all just lazy, because the only people they knew growing up who had as little as we have were truly lazy pieces of shit who couldn’t scrape together a life in the most prosperous time in americas history

>>50269350
Food products

>>50269350
I also sell sensors and sensors accessories

>>50269007
This. Don't blame anyone but yourself for being a fucking retard and paying large sums of money for going after your (((passion))) instead of what the market wants.

>>50268888
Nice quads. Get you some college pussy.

>>50268888
checked

>be me 17
>want to study music
>look up band teacher salary
>lmao
>decide to study engineering
>forever view music majors as retards

>>50269509
lol you think following your passion is jewish but bowing to the markets and worshiping money isn't

>>50269649
they're retards because they're not pathetic enough to have their existences controlled by money? lol

>>50268888
lmao just do what you love bro!!!!

>>50269043
>start doing what you love
>now it's just a job
>now you hate it
boomers were fucking retards to begin with, but even some older gen x personalities are guilty of touting "do what you love" at college commencement speeches. embarrassing to the rest of us.
gen x didn't start by doing what they loved either, they did what they were best at and learned to love it. that's how you win.

>>50269335
every single year from 25 to 36 feels almost exactly the same. you don't think ahead much. then you realize you're coming up on 40 and things will change, but they don't really change. you think ahead, but only to about 40 or 45.
then you do hit 40 and magically you just don't give a fuck anymore, and simultaneously everything slows down, and now you think ahead to what it will be like when you're 80.
now you really enjoy life. unless you've fucked it up with drugs and gambling.

>>50269335

I went back to college at 26 and graduated at 31. It was the best decision I ever made anon, 1.5 years post graduation and I'm making $105k a year with a trajectory going straight up.

You can either be a loser now and do something about it or give up and still be a loser 5 years from now.

>>50268888
>going to college at the peak of the bubble
>Buy High, Sell Low
The /biz/ way i say

>>50269977
what did you get a degree in?
i’m turning 26 next month and stuck working a manual labor job laying floors

>>50269977
Not the anon you replied to but what did you go back to college for and what do you do now?

>>50270066


Supply Chain, it's basically resource management and I'm really into the job.

A lot of skills you have are going to be directly transferrable to some general field you just need to get into the university system to start to identify what those are.

>>50268888
if you studied what you loved, then you should have a high univeristy college GPA. 3.8 or above. If so, go back to community college and do all the pre med reqrequsitie courses. Take year round no more than one class at a time. Ace them. Sleep in your car if needbe. Use college gym to shower etc. Then either volunteer at a hosptial or become an EMT for a bit. Study for MCAT, apply to med schools get in and loan max

>>50270375
I'm going back for Statistics

>>50268888
I'm 30 and have yet to figure out what I actually like doing

>>50270600
>like doing
i hate to tell you this at 30 anon, but you have as much choice in life as pepsi vs coca cola. what you like doing won't make money anymore.

>>50269952
>every single year from 25 to 36 feels almost exactly the same.

Maybe for you.

>>50270398
statistics is difficult to find a job and hard to get a high gpa. at least its logic. try to get into AI and data science with stats degree if thats actually interesting to you

>>50268888
Checked quads.
When I started college we had this 30 year old guy in the dorms and made fun of him all the time for being so old and just starting college.
Now I'm his age and I'm probably gonna have to go back to college to get a STEM degree to get a decent paying job.
Always wonder what happened to that guy.
>>50269335
When you turn 30 you stop giving a shit what other people think of you.

>>50268888
We were lied to. We were told there would be an abundance of good jobs no matter what we did. It was all a scam to get people to take on massive student loans. Everyone is always talking shit about Millenials getting into this situation but we were just stupid kids who were reassured that everything would work out fine.

>>50271595
In consumer goods, it's in demand

>>50269007
>>50269509
Yet here you are, a moronic asshole, wasting your time on 4chan.

>>50271765
I know statistics majors that couldnt find a job anywhere except math teacher at high school making 40k a year. At least get a high gpa so you can do med school in that case and make 400k a year. but you do u

>>50271797

Category manager and every consumer goods companies are looking to hire lots of them since it deals with consumer buying habits on a local level

>>50268888
Most everybody did you just heard what you wanted to instead

i'm 21 and halfway thru a CS degree i want to quit but posts like these give me motivation.

i dont want to be a min wage slave

>>50271785
Why don't you stop using the board if it is a waste of time. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

>>50271797
Medical school is a fucking waste if you are already in your 30s, and if you can't turn a statistics degree into a 6-figure data science job you are beyond help. It is literally a lern2code pre-meme level market.

>>50269350
redpill
how to get into sales ?

>>50274247
I have experience and a bs and ms in cs and finding a six figure job wasnt easy. there is age discrimination among deb hiring. once you hit a certain age its harder. doctors can usually run their own practice until they die. dont have to worry about recessions etc either

>>50268888
Because the people advising you were older millennials/boomers that already had a ton of savings/assets and told you to chase your dreams instead, that money isn't everything. And you believed them. Like a shmuck.

>>50274303
>how to get into sales ?

Don't be a weirdo

>>50268888
Why did you need somebody to tell you to pick a high paying job?

>>50269891
Everyone who pursued their hobby in school ended up hating it in adulthood because now you're FORCED to do it for a wage. Keep your hobbies and your wage cage separate or you'll eventually hate it.

>>50269891
>they're not pathetic enough to have their existences controlled by money?

my man they literally live paycheck to paycheck

>>50268888
>Why didn't anyone tell me to go after the highest paying jobs?
Yikes this will not end well. I did that and was miserable af.
You go for chill jobs, not high stress jobs

>>50268888
checked did you get vaccinated?

>>50268888
don't tell me ur taking out loans too

>>50271670
no shit.
t. didn't graduate college, 6fh

>>50268888
because quads proved you weren't made for the freedom of minimalism

I graduated at 26 years old and didn't get a job until 2 years later starting @ 60k. Now after that initial job I'm making 100k with still high prospects of going up even higher.

I do web dev which is braindead easy, tons of benefits and generally no out of hours work. Helps that I look young and people think I'm like 20 years old instead of 30, so don't neglect your body. WAGMI

>>50268888
27 here and Im starting college next week. Sick of being a tradie. I fell for the "learn a trade, fuck college" meme big time and it took me 10 years to realize my mistake.
Why break my body to earn 100k a year when I can walk around an office all day doing nothing and earn even more?

>>50268888
at 36yo and youre still a fucking retard.
>going after the highest paying job
>in college
u might as well an hero retard.
BECAUSE WELCOME TO /biz/
WHERE THE HIGHEST PAYING JOB IS CALLED BEING THE CEO OF YOUR OWN COMPANY
THIS BOARD IS ABOUT FUCKING BUILDING BUSINESSES AND PROFITING IN MARKETS
NOT WAGE SLAVING FOR TABLE SCRAPS
EITHER LURK HERE UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY BECOME A MAN OR DONT POST AT ALL

>last time im droppin alpha for the month of July

>>50270398
Don't go to school for stats at your age. Seriously, do not.

If you are capable of the kind of reasoning that stats requires, you are capable of programming, and programming is both more lucrative and more likely to land you a job.

Stats work is now Machine Learning, AI and or data science. Here's how you break in. You find a discord, no I am not fucking kidding, you find a bunch of topical discords. You find people in study groups and working on projects. Be very careful that you do not perpetually study and do not have projects to show for it. Anyway, you find people working on projects, and you help them. This is both how you skill up, and how you network.

After cutting your teeth on a few open source projects, you can start asking around through your network how to get a position. It will be hard, but way easier than you might think. And it will cost you only your time, instead of your time and money.

t. Got employed as a data engineer following this advice, no degree.

>>50274304
Yeah and doctors also have to spend 7+ years being overworked and criminally underpaid (or paid nothing) plus debtmaxxed. Seriously the finances for medicine are not that good compared to data science or SWE even if you're in your 20s, they're fucking horrible in your 30s and beyond.

In the time it takes you to finish med school, a DS or SWE could work, save >50% of their income, and be practically set for life. The difference in net worth at 7 years would be close to $1,000,000.

>>50277079
This is solid advice. In four years you could nab a data-related job based on self-study and a few projects. College stats would be very slowly paced and extremely expensive. You can get access to pretty much every course on Coursera for $400/year.

Only good reasons to go to college at 36 is (1) if you absolutely need the BA credentials to get a good job, (2) you are so horribly socialized you need to pay five figures a year to be in a social environment (some people really need this), or (3) you want to bang early 20s puss.

>>50268888
good luck

>>50277255
if all swe made fang salaries Id agree but they dont. Google makes 2mm per employee and other tech companies dont pull that.average dev at avg company makes doctor residency money with doctor residency hours after bs in cs. bs in cs doesnt teach you how to code. make it a ms and thats getting close to the amount of schooling a doctor does. but no doctor salary of 200k-1mm a year outside fangman. devs salary cap out unless they break into fangman and most dont because fangman interviews are brutally difficult. try a few leetcode hards you havent seen before and get no help. its more difficult than any mcat

>>50277363
Apparently whatever you did didn't even teach you to write. And if you think leetcode is hard, just try getting into medical school.

>>50277059
where the fuck do you midwits come from? its a never ending barrage of midwits.

>>50277392
>>50277392
its 4chan not school. I pass everything through grammarly in a formal setting but not on 4chan

I did the MCAT and I scored well on it. I had high science GPA pre reqs for med school. my upper grad CS classes killed my gpa to a 3.3 instead of a 3.7 so I didnt get into med school. I fell for the CS degree meme. Do an easy major not CS. CS requires hard problem solving and med school requires memorization

>>50274359
>shmuck
Die kike

>>50268888
I am doing what I love. It's called daytrading

>>50275928
I have an engineering degree and never got hired, was on welfare for years bro. Depends on your shithole country (Canada) I guess

>>50269952
fuuuuck I'm 4 months away from 25 and this hurts to read. I've officially wasted my early 20s...

>>50268888
Damn that sucks. I'm 34 but if I go back for my masters its only 10 classes total.

>>50268888
I'm 35 and I could never imagine doing this at this age.

>>50269335
It fucking blows not having made it but I also kind of don’t give a fuck anymore. The only thing I wish I could get is women. If you’re above 30, single, and not making much money, you’re FUCKED on that front. No women will touch you.

>>50271797
This. I got a math degree tho, can’t find a job in AI/ML/data science even with a portfolio of projects. The industry wants CS majors.

>>50277314
>(2) you are so horribly socialized you need to pay five figures a year to be in a social environment (some people really need this)
fuck they're on to me

>>50269335
Not 36 myself (younger) but I've already come to terms that if I'm not rich by 35-40 roughly, then it's pretty much over. Into the wage cage at that point and working until 62 minimum assuming I don't die early (not suicidal). There are things I'm doing right now that might get me out of the wage cage but any of the following put a near end or end to that endeavor
>losing neet status (unemployed)
>getting a wife
>having children

>>50278293
I'm 34 and I pretty much agree. I'm not willing to have kids after 40 because that's when having young kids really starts to take a toll on you. I've just started to make it this year... I'm wondering if I will ever meet a woman worthy of a relationship.

>>50269341
I'm not even in my 30s and I've started to become like this due to my constant failure in the stock market making my odds of escape abysmal.

>>50269977
That's only for a few small niches anon. Not everyone can go do that annoying programming especially at Amazon where they fire you for not doing enough including waging on your off time from what Ive seen one anon do

>>50270169
>Supply Chain, it's basically resource management and I'm really into the job.
....i could get into that too but most places are horrendous. Not a chance idgaf if it pays 100k i am not working 70 hour work weeks. At that point its like a 3640 hour work year at 27.47 with no time and half or any type of overtime extra wage.

>>50274304
Data Scientist here. Even with extensive engineering (SE), data science (MSTAT degree ongoing), projects & product management experience, it’s hard to get into Data Science. Most of the work in AI is about MLE/MLops, and nothing do with actual model building. Look into AWS Sagemaker & GCP automl. If they need, they usually hire a PhD in Math/stat/ml, for things like scanning retina for diagnosing neuro-degenerative diseases.

Most of the data-science is fucking boring. When got a choice been authority & novelty, choose authority. Data Science is a IC role often with no authority, unless you ride the usual ladder to get to “Head of Data” roles (often need MBA after a quant degree).

MSTAT + FRM + SAS, is a legitimate way to move to financial risk management which is pretty chilled. Do this, or go to med school.

Thinking seriously about going back to med-school even at age of 40

>>50278315
Yeah I'm worried about that too. I have to put an end to these attempts of getting rich at some point. If I stick with it too long, in this case the latest cutoff point 40, I'll put myself into a worse position. Neither rich or with a worthwhile women.

Beginning to wonder if I should be going out frequently in hopes of meeting a worthwhile women. Out in this case does not means clubs or bars (never been to them not a place for women I'dseriously consider), I literally mean just out and about. At 35 my odds for a woman in her mid 20s or younger feel slim but at 40 it'dbe even lower especially since in either scenario I bring no monetary wealth to the table. Although there's always a chance for one that'd dig me for some reason or another eg I'm just her type. Man this is becoming problematic.

>>50278514
>>50278440
if you guys are willing to learn how to trade:
https://mega.nz/file/S2wx1QpZ#WW9P4-LksvGBbzCX1HEPPvq4SPjqCJKdaSMJpSBPuA4

>>50268888
Is a degree in Accounting and Finance along with CPA and CFA good?
Asking for a friend.

>>50278591
Man i hate clicking these kinda links. As im always sketched out, can i see a screenshot just to make sure its worthwhile to click?

Nonethless I suck at trading im only good at it when Im confident in my play and that's a rare occurence

>>50268888
I'm 30 and gonna take a bootcamp in August/Sept.

Should I go to uni instead?

>>50278591
>https://mega.nz/file/S2wx1QpZ#WW9P4-LksvGBbzCX1HEPPvq4SPjqCJKdaSMJpSBPuA4
bro wtf this is gay pr0n ?!?!?!?

>>50278630
From what I've seen personally it's okay. You could make more if you go for one of those companies that work you like a slave but if you don't it's a mediocre salary per year. Better than median annual wage in the US by at least 33% or so but from what Ive seen them achieve it's nothing impressive maybe shave off half a decade and get to retire in your mid 50s.

>>50278591
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVgHx4Z63paYiFGQ56PjTF1PGePL3r69s

Mentfx is good but I think this is better.

>>50274448
bowtied sales guy

>>50278643
Lol if you don't have a CS degree, a bootcamp won't do much for you unless you got some serious connections and a network.

Otherwise, won't do anything for you.

>>50278676
why not? being a web app developer doesn't necessitate a CS degree does it?

>>50278655
Thanks fren.
I've always been fascinated by the world of money and business.
I plan to work as a portfolio manager. I hope I'll make it.

>>50277314
personally when it comes to things I find even a little bit boring I just won't do them on my own time, I'll chip away very slowly if at all. For me the value of paying for college was that someone else would set deadlines for me and hold me to them through all the boring but necessary foundational material

>>50278575
I feel the same way too, i'm trying not to be too picky with the age range because i don't think i'd have my pick of the litter anyway. The danger of dating younger is that she would still not want to settle down and build a family... and the danger of going with older women is damaged goods that you have to spend your life fixing. You just have to hope you get lucky, that's all there is to it.

and you are right, you have to leave the house. if you are walking around in public just say "hello" and if she wants to she will respond and engage in a conversation with you. Otherwise, try to do as many of your activities outside the house as possible. read at a park, get a dog and take it for walks. if you work on your laptop, take it outside to coffeshops, libraries, gym and sport club (cafes), bars, pubs, parks, bookshops. Maximize your time outside. try different dating apps and maybe hire a professional photographer to improve your chances.

Those are the ideas swimming in my mind. just have to hope to get lucky.

>>50278659
>Mentfx is good but I think this is better.

I've heard of ICT but i've never studied his shit. I've learned RTM (readthemarket), mentfx, and i've studied the concept of FVG (fair value gap) from ICT.

seems to be working for me, but why not, i'll check out ICT in my spare time also. might improve my edge.

>>50277255
I did the math and the difference between a low six figure general manager job I would be giving up and a specialist dr. Was a difference of 8 million in favor of the MD degree even with the lost earnings considering I want to do rural medicine. And this is before considering management life style and burn out ridk.

>>50278699
Oh probably shouldve mentioned it but over time they should earn more so maybe retire early 50s or late 40s depending on how you are with money. Also highly dependent on wife and kids so that may mess up these numbers. Portfolio manager should do very but that's just an assumption

>>50277572
Did you try DO? Take a few gpa repair classes and go again

>>50278632
you need to take risks bro

anyway i had to delete the link because all those HTML files were dated (in the file name) which means i could potentially be tracked to be the leaker. if you are going to share it, make sure you just rename the files. please. thanks.

stupid moment on my part

>>50269007
This. I wasn't entirely sure what I wanted to do so I picked the highest paying option and did my first two years of core at a community college for a grand total of 8000 dollars.
You're an adult when you go to university. Act like it.

>>50278514
I'm close to finishing medschool but i'm yuro so i can already work as a "summer" doctor. This job is stressful as fuck. Is programming really so boring that you guys fantasize about being doctors?

>>50270375
Medical school is horrible if you're not young. The trajectory is way to long and you will start making real money after 10+ years from starting medical school.

>>50278833
>>50278860
Ehh too late for me to click. Don'texactly have the money to just up and replace anything that gets bricked (unemployed). I mean i do but its a severe blow due to no job. So what exactly does it teach?

>>50268888
People like to fill others with false hope

>>50278911
I’m a Retail Manager and yeah I fantasize about it, it’s stressful everyday having your job on the line based on the decisions of the hundreds of idiots who work for you. The long hours, surprise overnight shifts when your overnight manager is out. The hardest though is feeling like you just tear people down and use them to squeeze out more efficiency for a company that doesn’t even give you a cut

>>50278911
>This job is stressful as fuck
Just become a GP or Dermatologist you idiot

>>50278977
Yeah i guess, at least you aren't responsible for people's immediate health. Most jobs are very stressful and the ones that aren't probably feel borkng to the people who do it.

>>50279004
I think anything that will give you a decent life will make you suffer for it

If I make a bad call I can ruin a life by firing someone or putting a predator in power over someone who can be abused

You can ruin a life by a bad call, yours is likely to be more permanent.

>>50279001
In my country (Finland) being a gp is really stressfull because a lot of treatments and decision are done in "general healthcare". I basically have a neverending line of patients with all kinds of problems and only 30 mins to deal with each of them. Psychiatry was a lpt less stressful actually. But yeah dermatologist might also be an option if i just have the patience to learn all the shit required.

i went to medical school (us) and dropped out. it's a scam unless you enter at 22 you'll hate your life. not worth it for anyone with a wife or children it's too time intensive. i make 225k now in a totally different field and it took about 7 yrs after i dropped out to get there. if someone is smart enough to go to medical school they can do other things. however, medical school is maybe worth it if you're a psychopath introvert neet that has no desire to do anything other than study and make money - doctors have some of the highest income potential in the workforce still

>>50279023
>I think anything that will give you a decent life will make you suffer for it
True. I guess humans are just meant to suffer.

>>50279031
Being a GP is such an easy and cushy job, at least if you know what you're doing.
There is nothing stressful about managing diabetes, HBP and doing routine checks, which will be a big part of your day to day life.
There is nothing stressful about diagnosing and treating things like GERD, Asthma and Allergies, which will be another big part of your day to day life.
There can be some stress with acute and life threatening diseases like if some retard comes to you with what appears to be a heart attack or acute abdomen. But in an acute coronary syndrome you just do an EKG and send him to the closest emergency room. With an acute abdomen you just call an ambulance and do some basic diagnostic maneuvers to have something to write in the notes.
Infections can be a bit stressful, but mostly you will just diagnose and treat simple infections like Pneumonia and send anything complex to the hospital.
It's a cushy and great job but nobody wants to do it anymore because they like the prestige of being a specialist, even though depending on the country GPs can earn more than specialists if they go into private practice.
t. Eurofag graduating next year and going straight into GP residency

>>50279104

euro medical education system is better than us. even though earning power is lower there's no student loan debt slavery and mbbs is faster to get

>>50279104
>depending on the country GPs can earn more than specialists if they go into private practice.
This is true in Finland. Also good points otherwise. I guess it's pretty mild as long as you just have all the knowledge required to do the job.

>>50279138
U.S. Senpai medicine residency is only 3 years and you go straight into earning 300k/year.
The U.S. medical system is much better if you're a doctor and want to make cash.

>>50279225

please dont speak out of your ass. us requires 4 year undergrad + 4 year medical school + 3 year residency

>>50269007

>>50268888
I'm a 29 year old loser and I'm not smart enough to be a computer programmer or a doctor.
How do I profit from this?

>>50279266
Yeah I know, in Europe it's 6 years med school + 5-6 years residency to become a specialist in family medicine (GP).
It's around the same in the U.S., unless you go for the specialties and subspecialties, which will take like 3-4 years longer.
The difference is that once you're a residency trained doctor, you make around 100k in Europe and 250k+ in the U.S.
>but muh debt
You can pay that back in 2 years if you're frugal.

>>50279295

general practice residency in uk is 3 years so it's 6+3 on every reference i can find. it's shorter

>>50268888
I worked a high paying job for 10 years and it almost killed me due to stress (air traffic control). High pay isn't everything. You need a mix of quality of life and work satisfaction.

>>50279340

atc is literally a dumb fucking job for idiots. people get attracted to making 120 or 140k and dont realize that's a terrible fucking deal considering the lifestyle. would rather make 100k and have a normal 9-5 with minimal stress

>>50279315
In the UK you do 2 years of foundation year before starting residency, so it's 5 years total I think.
Not really sure about the system in Bongland though. In most EU countries its 5-6 years residency for GP.

you have begun the full debt max cycle

use this info accordingly

if whatever the fuck ur doing in college is not based on math then ur just wasting time and money. brainlets need to stay away from college.

>>50279347
I agree. It's a bad deal considering the demands placed on capable people who wind up working busy sectors all the time.

What really burned me up though was how the useless fucking niggers and women in my facility were put into slow or no work positions all day every day because they were terrible at the job, which meant men like me had to work harder for the same pay.

>>50278514
>SAS
They make me use that where I work, you're saying its a good skill? I thought it was all about Python or R

>>50279347
>>50279426
What's the lifestyle like? Hours?

>>50278643
Bootcamps are usually good if you have a non-CS STEM degree. It's certainly possible to get a job after if you don't have a degree, but you'll have to have an impressive portfolio and suck a lot of dick.

>>50279295
If thats 100k before taxes it's not worth it.

>>50269007
>here
me when i lie

>>50279758
That's pre tax, yes. In Europe there are almost no other jobs that pay that much
Yuropoor isn't a meme.

>lived as a neet for 30 years
>retired last year from shitcoins
never working gave me the time to live on biz. fuck working

>>50269372
A lot of those lazy pieces of shit ended up getting rich anyway over the past 20 years lel. Owning a bungalow shit shack by the beach back then is enough to make a millionaire today. They had it so fucking easy.

>>50279797
I guess that's why they hate so much on guys who made it. They feel like it screws with their 'social balance'. Only option is doing your own thing I bet it's way less competition than in the US as yuropoors are mostly risk averse pussies

>>50279596
Horrible shift work. Stuff like 2 days 2 swings 2 mids. Mandatory overtime to cover staffing shortages. Horrible management that can't do the job and doesn't understand managing staff workload. Total complacency and disregard for training standards when it comes to women and browns, microscopic analysis of training issues for white men. Cliquey behavior from oldfags who gatekeep career progression until other men have 'paid their dues'. General health decay and relationship problems among staff due to stupid shifts and stress.

It has its moments but overall it was torture while simultaneously being expected to work miracles on a daily basis. I had enough.

>>50279825
Yeah going into private practice is a good way to make money as a doctor in Europe, you can make 150-200k in Germany, but that's pretty much the max you're going to get as a doc.

>>50279857
how can germany afford to pay 200k? isn't it mostly a country of arab migrants at this point?

>>50279857
You can get debt and buy up practices. I bet the competition is low as PE firms are not doing it and doctors are retards when it comes to business... Also always possible to become a tiktok doctor and sell supplements. Otherwise you're just a wagie with higher status and better pay but a wagie nonetheless

>>50279871
Germany is rich when compared to other European countries, the general population is just poor as fuck wageslaves

>>50279819
Multiple generations will pay for the extravagant boomer lives, it's almost as if they had a secret vote in their youth to fuck everyone over at their expense. We see this now even as they cannot work, we have to pay for the systems they put in place to protect themselves as they aged.

>>50279649
What if I have a two year college diploma, but not a degree? I'm a leaf so if that doesn't make sense that is why, kek

>>50268888
Money and miles kid

>>50279971
Yeah they keep the wages low so they can produce and export stuff cheaply while the inequality is the highest in the EU, on par with the US.

Funny if you consider how much they praise themselves for being less corrupt than all the baddy bad countries.

>>50269043
Had an adjunct English professor give that advice on the last day of class, he was a fucking douche that clearly wanted to fuck over people's lives and fuck as many of his students as possible. I told him that was the worst advice I ever heard and he give me a C-. KEK, absolutely worth it

>>50269007
>>50269043
I wish I knew these things when I was a child and didn't believe retarded Boomers when they said "you shouldn't worry or plan for stuff you're still too young"

I'm turning 29 soon and learning to code through the odin project in my spare time. Planning on quitting my (non-tech) job by the end of the year and doing web dev projects until I can land an internship and work my way up. I've got 2 STEM degrees (chemistry & biochemistry double major and chemical engineering) and will have about $10k by eoy, which can support me independently for about 4 months. Any advice bros? Am I retarded for quitting without an offer in this market? I live in south africa btw

>>50269335
It's a little like being undead and now nothing can hurt you, like a punished version of yourself. The truth is you can always go back and get a degree and possibly a decent career, but you can't get back your youth and fuck hot ass women, unless you become rich as fuck and make a fuck ton of money. Stop watching Sam Hyde advice videos telling you your brain crystalizes by 28 and you literally become a vegetable; in the next breath, he'll say scientists are fucking dumb, it's fucking insane. If Shoshana can go back to Nursing school at 45 with 3 kids, commuting 3 hours in a single day, you can do it easily in your late 20s, early 30s with no girlfriend and nearly zero obligations, people need to stop making excuses. People who have that mentality are guaranteed fat people that are unable to change because they are unwilling to. You just do what you have to do.

>>50280138
put that 10k all in ETH brah, it'll be $100k by next year

People who chase the highest income job are late to the party. By the time you get into the job, supply has increased and it’s no longer as good pay wise.

>>50280138
Why would you do webdev monkey shit if you could go into genetical engineering? Rather learn about AI and ML and join a young biotech company and become rich when they go public. Google and Amazon are already built. Crispr is just starting

>>50280186
Can't risk my entire net worth on a speculative asset in a recession/bear market. I'll buy back in once I've landed a web dev gig and I know I won't need that cash in the near future. I'm long term bullish on ETH but I'm going to need those savings next year. Selling was a tough call.

>>50280225
>AI and ML
Hard to break into without a masters and from what I've seen I doubt I'll enjoy the work anyway.
>Biotech
Interesting, but a masters is the bear minimum for any R&D engineering work.
>Why web dev?
SWE because I enjoy programming + wfm/freelance potential + high pay, web dev because it's the easiest SWE field to break into with no formal training, but once there I'm gonna go hard on AWS certs and pivot into full stack. That's the plan anyway, but I'm open to suggestions.

>>50274448
What about a likeable and funny weirdo?

>>50278199
>(3) you want to bang early 20s puss.

fuck they're on to me

>>50280300
Was talking to the other anon with biochemistry degree. He shouldn't throw that away for webdev. Rather combine it with AI/ML to get into genetical engineering.

You will make it anon I'm actually quite confident about it.

If you hate your job no amount of money will help you cope with the fact you spend 70%+ of your life somewhere you hate

I'm debating quitting my well paid job to just work in a supermarket/ security or some other low effort bullshit

>>50272960
Unless you save up whilst living with parents/rent free, you're basically a slave one or two months paycheck away from homelessness

Or you waste your life being 24/7 at your job to have a years leeway incase things go wrong

Unless you get autismbux you are literally a slave

>>50280377
I am that anon, switched to mobile so my ID changed. I'll take another look into genetic engineering. Thanks for the advice and vote of confidence homie.
Also, checked

>>50280417
The vote of confidence was meant for the webdev anon. But you don't seem too stupid either ;)

>>50280383

This tbqh

I see it as: What’s the point in going through the motions of doing something you fucking hate so you can just keep earning money to support your lifestyle of doing things you hate.

I’m considering quitting my current job at 30, going to med school and becoming a doctor (UK) because I’m a chemical engineer and the work is fucking boring, the wages are crappy (£42k incl bonus) whilst feeling absolutely no sense of achievement in my work.

>>50277059
This but unironically

>>50280474
I am webdev anon and biochem anon
>>50280138
>>50280252
both me, just switched networks which changed by ID. Thanks either way, based hopiumbro

>>50280481
Unironically learn to code. Higher pay, better conditions, wfh, better peers and more engaging work (from what I hear). If you grind hard you could land the first dev job after teaching yourself for about a year. Or follow hopiumbro's advice and go into DS/ML.
>t. fellow retard who fell for them ChemE meme

>>50268888
That's so fucking depressing. I feel for you anon. Why did it take you until age 36 to take this path? If you had done it at age 30, you would be somewhere by now.

Good luck. The best time to start improving yourself was X amount of time ago, the next best time is right now.

>>50268888
>>50269335
27 yo khv neet uni dropout here. I'm trying to go back to uni next year.

>>50280587
It's not hopium you gotta hustle nonetheless. Keep in mind everyone hears the stories about webdev wfh doing 150k not just you.

There's a lot of startups doing crazy shit in synthetic biology. Shit that seriously gonna change the world. But you gotta go the extra mile. Talk to the founders on twitter, build a profile to get into that industry. I know it's hard for people coming from uni and realizing they've been fucked over by the higher education meme though possibilies are better than ever nowadays.

>>50269891
>they're retards because they're not pathetic enough to have their existences controlled by money? lol
Learn to capitalize.
I wish I was rich so I wouldn't have to post here.

>>50277059
>CEO OF YOUR OWN COMPANY
What is capital?

>>50277572
>its 4chan not school. I pass everything through grammarly in a formal setting but not on 4chan
Learn to spell properly you fucking nigger.
>IT DUH 4CHAN.
Doesn't matter, type proper sentences.

>>50280789
Kek what would you be doing if not posting here?

>>50280174
The brain crystallizing has proven to be bullshit, the raw horse power shuts down a bit but the general experience makes up for it.

People in management and science fields keep neural plasticity through use into adulthood.

It comes at a cost though. The rates of brain cancer are multiple times higher in professionals

>>50279842
Why can't we form our own country.

Also if it makes anyone feel any better my mother just graduated at 55 with a SWE degree and had a wfh job offer before she graduated

>>50280767
>hopium
Not saying hopium as a bad thing, god knows I needed a dose.
>webdev saturation
Very true, but somewhat thankfully I live in a backwater shithole where competent devs are worth their weight in gold. Also hoping my Eng background and targeted upskilling will give me an edge over the bandwagon hoppers. Still, I know the best I can hope for is 50-70k at first, which is still make it money by shithole standards
>biotech
Unironically going to follow your advice. I doubt I'll manage it without postgrad tbqh but I find biotech interesting so idm doing a lit review between coding blocks. If I wind up solving the impending food crisis I'll shoutout my hopiumbro

>>50268888
Quads of someone else is responsible for my failures

>>50269335
Actually, the zombie part comes ONCE you make peace with it. And believe me, there's no better feeling than killing that fucking drive that's making you insane on a daily basis for years on end.

After that, you don't give a fuck about anyone and anything. It's like you turned into an animal. You just are. No God complex, no backstabbing, no strategy, only tea and cute innocent dreams. And good fucking techno.

>>50278757
RTM is the real deal but has very few resources, Where did you study it from?
Hope you the best, fren.

>>50268888
>36 years old
>still WORKING for some jew for your income to support yourself
ngmi

>>50280174
this

>>50268888
you can do it bro. im 29 this yeah and only just cracked 100k/year. always aiming higher.

>>50279580
Banks don’t use Python or R. Too many bugs. Stick to SAS & focus on BFIS domain. + FRM

>>50274448
check

>>50278514
I hope you're wrong because I'm currently trying to find a position in data science. I'm finishing up a master's degree in data analytics at the moment and have a decent portfolio of projects, but I do know that it's extremely competitive with many applicants having M.s. and Ph.D.'s in math/stats/CS. I have experience with "big data" concepts and tools like Spark, which I hope gives me an advantage over all the pure math and stats people.

>>50279104
>t. Eurofag graduating next year and going straight into GP residency
>>50279104

Another undertrained Euro-doctor who would soon be in jail for malpractice...
... if allowed to practice in the US.

>>50279138
>>>50279225
>>>50279104
>euro medical education system is better than us.

Dream on.

Lousy socialist training with worse socialist system that kills patients without recourse by the boatload.

>>50268888
Because they're selling college memberships, not results

>>50279280
>>>50268888 (OP)
>I'm a 29 year old loser and I'm not smart enough to be a computer programmer or a doctor.
>How do I profit from this?

Politics beckons.

>>50268888
Hahahaha I'm 27 and planning to do same, at least im still young you are completely fucked hahahahaha

>>50281717
medical errors are the third leading cause of death in the USA, far outpacing other countries. keep coping with having wasted your youth studying and waging in residency, and continuing to wage as an attending physician. kek. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

I do what I love
losing incredible amounts of money on shitcoins

>>50281821
20 year old zoomies will laugh at you behind your back just like you are laughing at OP.

>>50281918
Zoom zooms are the most pathetic generation ever, they will all kill themselves by the time they reach their mid 20s

>>50272960
Depends why you want to quit. If it's because you're shit at coding then it would be better to switch to another degree as you're still young. Trust me you don't want to change your career path later on in life. If you have problems with anything else other than coding then you should keep going

>>50273497
your first, "big achiever"

>>50279104
Not a doctor but this is my perception of GP. I just had an appointment for a 'checkup' and the fucking guy just nodded and said yeah the entire time. He felt guilty for not providing any value/insight so he ordered some basic panel to check my cholestrol and shit, kek

>>50279426
>>50279340
>>50279842
quick question: can you "we gaan" nigger pilots just for fun haha

>>50274303
books

>>50284404
My perception of GP is
> 10:00 - patient faking it for a sick note
> 10:15 - tweaker wanting prescription drugs
> 10:20 - hypochondriac

My gf is a doctor and I can't believe the stories of the low life scum they have to deal with on a daily basis. Drunks and homeless people in A&E especially.
Maybe just in a socialist hellhole like bongistan, but it's the chavvy NEET delinquents who will waste public time simply because they've nothing better to do all day.

Does anon have an opinion on becoming a Pilot?
It's a highly respected career which can be easily bought into.
With the memeflu over, demand should be rising and even before they were forecasting a pilot shortage

>>50285206
Very clicky field. If you're a social outcast type you'll get shunned and fail to graduate. If you're a normalfag that has friends you'll do alright.

Seriously, if you have a personality type where people dont like you, it will not work out

>>50269509
>being a fucking retard and paying large sums of money
Yeah, I was kind of a retard when deciding on a major... As a result, I got a useless degree in political science but finished without debt.
>>50271785
>wasting your time on 4chan.
Are we really wasting our time if we enjoy how it's wasted?
>>50269043
>not viable targets for outsourcing.
Fucking this.
Thanks for making this point, anon.

>>50285150
Seeing how neets act up in health care make me a bit red pilled on neeting in general. If you have nothing to do all day you will think up problems for yourself or start abusing drugs it seems.

>>50276064
>You go for chill jobs, not high stress jobs
What's a chill job that isn't nig tier?
I'm looking to switch out of software engineering now that I've stacked cash for a number of years

>>50277363
>but no doctor salary of 200k-1mm a year outside fangman
I make 250k/year and I'm not at FAGMAN (we are a high tier company and I did some leetcode easy/med to get in).

People do need to realize that CS is pretty much leetcode or go home (or make shit pay). Not every software engineer gets to FAGMAN or equivalent, but it's not because they couldn't. They show up to a DS&A interview, get btfo, never really practice, and then go find a company that pays way less w/an easy interview and get "comfy"

That is, thepeople that fail are those that aren't even dedicated enough to leetcode for 1-3 months.

You're not going to speerun it in a weekend. Just build up a little per day and keep taking interviews and don't accept bottom tier compensation.

That said, SWE is extremely homosexual work and I'm trying to switch out like I mentioned in my other comments. Coding sux, but I struck a deal with the devil for cash.

>>50277255
>In the time it takes you to finish med school, a DS or SWE could work, save >50% of their income, and be practically set for life. The difference in net worth at 7 years would be close to $1,000,000.
Exactly.

I was at around 1 million net worth around the time medfags were residents.

The people enjoying their time on the medical path seemed to come from relatively rich senpaitachi that could bankroll not just private k-12, undergrad, and UCLA med school, but also the LA lifestyle while not having a job.

That's a huge expense. Meanwhile, in my family...if my parents helped my brother with even $3,000 it was a LOAN lmfao

>>50278164
ai ml jobs usually require a PhD in stats or actual job experience. idk why but it do be like that

>>50278061
its like that in usa too. I know many that got aerospace engineering degrees etc and never got hired in the field. ended up getting hired doing customer support only because connections

>>50278514
see what ive been telling this thread. med school is where its at. garunteed well paying job for life after MD as long as you dont get a felony DUI or something to lose your license

>>50278789
I didnt apply to DO because residency match is ually family med or something but I could just join the army etc for a better match

>>50279052
med school is like 4 years of grind then residency is easy if you get derm or something

>>50279649
look on linkedin everyone who graduated from hack reactor and where theyre working now. many dont even have degrees working at uber and stuff. a degree in biology isnt going to help you get a dev job

>>50280820
pay me and ill type properly

>>50285467
neets actually have time off to see a doctor 9am to 5pm I need to see a doctor but dev work has me working a lot of hours

>>50278696
He is a crab in a bucket. Check out odin project discord for success stories. It is also a great program. Not everyone has the personality for self study so just know yourself. You can definitely get a meme web job if u make a portfolio and apply to as many jobs as it takes.

>>50269649
Everyone in the music school at my uni was Jewish

Threads like this help me remember is has nothing to do with school and everything to do with the person. Being in sales since HS, moving up to associate/VP level management, consistently working on my mental power and always making more than peers and their parents. Be the meme, pick up the old school "self help" books, take the salesman pill. Granted I started 15 years ago, before mass immigration really took hold and the internet made everyone a sales fag.

>>50278101
You will almost certainly waste more than just your early 20s.

>>50288713
You still have plenty of time if you start now, enjoy it, don't squander your youth. Be a kid again, get up early, stay up late, go do stuff, don't forget to be a normal fag once in a while.

>>50268888
now you can at least try to hook up with some freshman if you look youthful enough

>>50269952

Just turned 28 and I'm beginning to feel this. Time flies REALLY fast, a lot of months are like blackouts because nothing new happens. It's like an endless tunnel of procrastination, boredom, and light anxiety and insecurity about what the future will be like. Or maybe this is because I found a stable graphic design job last year, that pays an average wage and requires very little effort or hours of work each day. I could probably find some freelance stuff, work for some other clients since I have a lot of free time, but I'm too lazy for that. Looking back when I was a NEET, it wasn't much different, I was just watching youtube all day, playing video games, scrolling facebook. I remember always being "scared" of wagecucking because working 8 hours a day sounds exhausting as fuck, no one told me it's actually like 3-4 hours of work each day and that you're basically doing NOTHING most of the time. it's comfy as hell, but very boring.

>>50285467
>If you have nothing to do all day you will think up problems for yourself
Unfortunately this is true, at least for me. If you’re a neet/hikki you still need something concrete to do, or a routine at least. In my case, spending around 4-5 hours a day in the library cured me of my neet-induced neuroses.

>>50281705
US docs are killing more than EU docs lol, lmao even
>>50284404
>>50285150
If you're a good GP you can be really useful to people, diagnosing illnesses early and treating them quickly to prevent any long term damage.
A lot of GPs are people that are really shit at medicine and didn't make it to become a specialist. Most really passionate and intelligent people become specialist.

>>50282186
coding isnt hard for me I just found the material extremely boring, but school is supposed to be boring i guess.

I dont want to be a min-wage slave so I'm just going to suck it up and finish my degree

Im 29 and in the same boat. Im panicking everyday I just want to be my own man.

>>50271785
Don't know about some people here but I spend most of my day on the clock browsing sites like this one. I work like five minutes a day at the moment.

>>50269932
>don't become a film director mr. scorsese
>Don't become a football player Tom brady! You're a white man, you should do something mental like laywer or doctor
>DONT BECOME AN ACTOR MR BEAN YOU'RE GONNA HATE IT, DON'T GIVE UP YOU'RE HIGH PAYING DR CAREER

>>50268888
What career nigger Just wtudy it online fake a CV and het the job
Or else accept neetbux since most jobs are fake

The biggest crisis of our times is that there isn't a Universal Basic Income program, NEETbux for all. We were so fucking close with Trump.

>>50292549
why don't you work more?? Cant you find something at your company to work at improving??

>>50292984
Current company doesn't offer any other opportunities at the moment, just had a lot of layoffs recently as well so I might get a raise soon but not a promotion probably.
Currently interviewing with a crypto mining company and a decentralized exchange (Uniswap), don't know which one I will say yes to but both jobs mentioned having lots of stuff to do and learn.
Think I'll go with the mining one since they'll probably pay more and I can learn about operations and tour their facility to learn more about the technical side of things.

>>50268888
Just by realising you need to do something to better yourself is more than 99,9% of people will ever do. It is a difficult step, but you have done the right thing. You only live once, make it worth it for your children

>>50280101
>Directly telling him he's a retard instead of anonymously talking shit about him and saving your grade
Looks like you deserved that C-.

>Friend of a friend quit/got fired from Intel
>Said they worked him to the bone.
>Would call him at 3:00am with "We have a problem."
>Is now just getting an MBA despite majoring in engineering.
What's the fucking point if you're constantly just going to be running the rat race for a better gig every 2 or 3 years?

>>50293795
he has plenty of money though

>>50277079
What do I learn? is this the typical data analyst excel/sql/python route? How long until first job usually?

>>50274304
>>50278164
>>50278315
You sound like the kind of person who will always find reasons to fail.

>>50277392
Leet code concepts are much harder than hurry and solve this physics problem which is just solving for one variable with algebra.

>>50278643
Yes.

>>50279280
Good with people? Sales/management.
Otherwise recommend finance or accounting.

>>50294556
>Good with people?
Nope.
I have a low IQ and socially retarded
Guess it's the NEET life for me

>>50288713
nah I WILL turn my life around
>>50288763
hell yes thanks anon

>>50292703
See, thats the thing, only 1 in 1,000,000 people can make their passion a successful career.

how the ever loving fuck do i get a job
my mother's house is a fucking retarded refuge for the fuckups in my retarded family
fucking fuck i want the fuck out of here already

i've spent my entire fucking life wondering what the fuck it's gonna be today and i'm fucking sick of it

>>50279819
It's ok, the third world housekeepers they imported will abuse them in their retirement facilities. The day of the pillow has come.

>>50293795
I refuse to go back to anything that is going to further put me in a wage cuck cage. Crypto and being a degen in the markets its the only way out. Any Anon in here that settles for less deserves to be a wage cuck until they had enough.

Money isn't everything. For instance, you could be Hillary Clinton.

>>50269043
On top of that, purchasing power was huge back then. It was a golden bullrun so big that you could be a retarded gorilla
/ nigger cattle and still buy a house by simply pulling yourself up.
Now the only way out is nursing/ gov jobs if gambling didn't pay off

>>50280383
Only do that if you can easily hop back into your field.

I highly recommend some trash job like retail wagie just to give you back that humility and understanding why everyone around you are low class or retarded niggers.

It's a nice mental vacation and you'll appreciate your good paying job

>>50274448
FUCK

>>50288973
Try doing a job where you're actually working your whole shift every single day, before complaining. It's exhausting as hell and makes Neeting pretty good by comparison

go learn how to be a Web3 developer
shit pays really well even during this shit market
devs on ETH made millions and now entities like Hbar foundation are paying hella grants for competent developers

>>50288430
Thanks anon, I started FCC a few weeks ago and just started TOP a day or two ago. Gonna start making actual projects soon hopefully.

>>50294523
>Yes.
Do you think the time investment is worth it though? 4 years to not be working seems like a long time. I'm also a 30 year old boomer so keep that in mind.

>>50269952
25 year old boomer here, at least we ain't speaking German

>>50292549
what a sustainable system that definitely deserve to exist and it won't collapse

>>50297876
Most service jobs are bullshit. Most American jobs became service jobs after manufacturing was outsourced to third world countries.
guess what's going to happen if we don't get those back

>>50297907
You're stupid. E.g. I just served as a witness at court; normie beliefs like "lawyers are stupid liars and just leech money" are copes; the best ones bust their ass off reading and analyzing a mountain of legal and historical documents to come up with good solutions.
Anyone who works for 2-3 minutes and then does nothing else is a leech who does not deserve anything.
That's the true nature of the wojak-is-a-loser meme; normies with the delusion who can keep being lazy.

>>50297907
You're stupid. E.g. I just served as a witness at court; normie beliefs like "lawyers are stupid liars and just leech money" are copes; the best ones bust their ass off reading and analyzing a mountain of legal and historical documents to come up with good solutions.
Anyone who works for 2-3 minutes and then does nothing else is a leech who does not deserve anything.
That's the true nature of the wojak-is-a-loser meme; normies with the delusion they can keep being lazy.

>>50269335
I feel the same. I look almost the same

>>50298036
I wouldn't call being a lawyer a service job. You're more of a governmental worker.

>>50292703
Tom Brady cheated and spied on teams to attain success

>>50268888
it's still not late to go for it, make good Ps, and diversify into good alts like eth, egld, and Ride for a long time

>>50295080
enlist in the military and get gi bill. put gi bill on flight training. become a airline pilot

>>50297688
Depends on what you are looking for.

Been working shitty jobs and looking for something more bearable? Yes. Do it. 4 years is worth it if you come out with a good degree and have a plan.

If you are a go getter and looking to do something entrepreneur like then you don't need a degree.

is it too late to go back to University at 28 years old?

>>50268888
may be on a different time i would told you "go an0n doesnt matter what anyone thinks, there is no time to study and get a great job and life" but on these times... well I dont think the opposite but wont make a big difference either

>>50268888
don't worry you can make side money before you achieve that high paying job.
you can still make 50$ a day by just doing random surveys and testing mobile games. legit money withdrawable both in crypto and paypal
https://freecash.com/r/28d8e633a6
with my code you'll get bonuses too and a chance to have a headstart of 250$.

>>50298164
It's definitely not too late anon. I'm taking my investments to the metaverse as I'm seeing a lot of big players in sports getting involved like Nike and Adidas.

>>50276820
>walk around an office all day doing nothing and earn even more?
do nothing email type office jobs fall off at around 60k, to break 100k you will have to get an office job that involves actual financial/legal/programming work and the 12 hour days that go with that.

>>50280174
>can't get back your youth and fuck hot ass women,
Lol u guys act like banging hot chicks is so hard it really isnt. Just talk to them stop using the internet and online dating

>>50268888
uh you could have just bought bitcoin and not had to work at all

>>50302382
its very hard

>>50274304
Just don't put your age on your cv, they won't be able to judge you till your interview by which point your competence will shine through.

>>50280174
Agreed. I started learning paino and a second language at 30 as I was put off for years by being "too old" to learn.
Turns out if you just practise/study for 20 mins everyday you learn shit quick brains elastic as fuck yo

>>50296630
Can you elaborate on this?
How do you get into web3? I take it there's no codeacademy equiv for solidity, and a strong softeng background would be needed?

>>50268888
>29 years old
>going back to college because I fucked up my major choice the first time and there's no jawbs in my major that pay well enough
>i already have a bachelors degree
>Becoming an IT monkey with online courses
>use student loans to pay rent
>trade leveraged ETF's to make money

kinda comfy

>>50293684
lol I can't believe this thread is alive. I tried that and realized he moderated his own ratemyprofessor like the saddest faggot on the planet. I had a low B and I already knew he was going to fail me because English is subjective and he was on a constant power trip, it didn't matter if DFW wrote my paper, he would've given me a shitty grade no matter what. He was such a faggot that he wouldn't give us our final papers back. He threw a little party on the last day because he wanted to get closer to his female students to have sex with them. I left immediately, but not before telling him his speech was fucking stupid. English teachers are fucking rock bottom losers, the only C I got in college.

>>50299300
I guess I'm mostly looking for a job that doesn't make me consider driving into the median as opposed to making it into the office and a little more money. Did marketing for a few years and absolutely hated it. The lrn2code stuff I've been doing has been kind of fun but who knows if it'll be that way once I get into the actual work force.

>>50278125
Why not go for younger women and ignore career roasties?

>>50278676

The cope from fags who wasted their time and money on CS is delicious. Im a self taught dev and didnt even bootcamp and it hasnt held me back at all.
On the flip side i volunteer for some free code learning projects and the number of CS grads who do the material and whine about being unable to find jobs is mind boggling. These fucking retard kids cant do anything alone and all have copy paste lame folios if they have one at all

>>50280107
You grew up on the internet, why blame people whose only knowledge was telegoy