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Is this real? he keeps deleting his tweets. probably fake..

>>50177910
It won't be until 2025. March of 2025, screencap this post

>>50177910
Uh Based if true

I honestly don't think they'll pull the trigger at this stage. I was a lot more concerned before the Ukraine thing, but I think the outcomes of that have diminished everyone's appetite for blood for a little while. I'd guess the real date is closer to 2030, as their GDP growth reaches something like US levels and the CCP has to do something big to maintain their grandeur

>>50177910
bullshit, china doesnt have the naval force for that. unless they just use tactical nukes at the start

Benefit of annexing Taiwan <<< cost of alienating the Western world you do tons of business and trade with

That's not even getting into the potential of an American coalition military response

>>50177910
2024, he's always late not early

>>50177910
Short all tech and semi conductors. Damn, I’m going to have to move out my AAPL death puts. As anon said, burry is always 1-2 yrs late

>>50178010
They might unironically help Taiwan's semiconductor industry build factories in the US, just so they won't care when China invades. They don't really want it for the utility, I don't think, they just believe it's theirs. Plus, of course, Taiwan has all of the empires historical artifacts, which pisses them off

>>50177910
Insider here, the US has a Killswitch for when the invasion starts. Safe to say China won't get very far.

>>50178010
You do not understand the Chinese mindset

Reunification with Taiwan is one of their founding constitutional principles, they never signed a peace to end the Civil War in all the decades they were a poor backwards shithole and America was the leader of the world, they sure as fuck aren't going to sign a peace treaty now that they're stronger than us.

The CCP's entire mandate depends on their promise of reunification with Taiwan.

Most people don't have a clue about the macro of China. They are not qualified to predict what will occur. China will be the next superpower. They will rule the East.

>>50177935
just check BurryArchive on twitter

>>50177978
Nice cope. China is invading Taiwan in 2 years, max

>>50178087
>tfw the mandate of heaven hits just right

>>50178010
China has usa by the balls, retard. They make almost all of our stuff

>>50178213
2.5 years, they will wait until after the next presidential election when the country is most divided and leadership is weakest

>>50178213
I just know that they were a lot more gung ho about it at the start of the Ukraine invasion than they are now. China doesn't usually take actions that will get them sanctioned, since their global relevance is so deeply tied to their manufacturing power. I think that's changing, but I don't think they'll feel secure enough until 2030~

>>50177910
All-in XOM. And I also think this year. Why the fuck should China allow the West time to restock on weapons and fuel?

>>50177910
During world war 2 the US made plans for invading Taiwan, there where 20K Japanese troops on the Island and the US estimated it would require around 400K to succesfully invade the country - which is why they scrapped the plans and went for Okinawa instead.
The reason for the huge number of soldiers needed was that there is only a couple of places where you can do a beach landing, which was obvious for the Japanese so they had massively entrenched those positions. Furthermore Taiwan is hilly/mountainous, and even from the "good" beach landing zones, it takes no more than a couple of kilometres before you are walking up the slope of a mountain.

How will China succeed? Taiwan have hundreds of thousands of soldiers, i don't think the Chinese could succeed with this, and i think they know it.

>>50178282
>give a bitterly divided population THE optimum rallying point
>the foreigner, the alien, the Xe(Si)nos
>???
>Profit
You really want to see an irradiated Chinese east coast in our lifetime

>>50178235
But that goes both ways. If you don't believe me just look at either side's data about imports/exports, what is being imported/exported and you will see how thoroughly insecure the Chinese state is. The US will suffer for a solid decade without China, but without the US the China literally dies. Russia and india combined could not provide the resources necessary for them to feed their people, let alone the industrial inputs to continue any semblance of economic growth.

China will never invade Taiwan because they don't fucking need to. They're a permanent boogeyman that isn't even a lie on their doorstep to rally their people against (Wolf-warrior diplomacy is working).

>>50178522
Naval blockade and starve the island. The West must respond militarily in that case, which I don't know if it will.

>>50178547
I mean, if Turchin's theory of polarization is right the US should be solidly on the downward swing in internal division by then, so it's not really relevant. Which is why I think China does what it can between now and then to reduce Taiwan's political relevance, actively helping the US domestic semi conductor industry. I think if they can get to a point where economic exports aren't so vital to public support, and the worst the West will throw at them is sanctions, and their economy is on the verge of hitting sedate Developed GDP Growth levels, there's a reasonable chance they pull the trigger

>>50178611

two chad us carriers move into South China Sea, blockade ends as chink bugs scatter and retreat to ant hill

>>50178582
It's not a realpolitik calculation

Literally the constitution of the country calls for reunification with Taiwan.

Idk if you are thinking the US and EU are going to keep being the dominant global powers forever, but that period is coming to an end and when it does the trade costs will be a temporary obstacle as Chinese manufacturing shifts demand elsewhere.

>>50178522
What the heck are you talking about? Are you talking about taiwan or japan? They're not on the same land mass you know. Invading taiwan doesn't tell you shit about invading japan and vice versa.

>>50178707
That's past the point of intimidation. That's when the war has already started. The commander of those carriers need to decide whether to start sinking Chinese ships or not.

>>50178740
He's saying the US planned to invade Taiwan as a stepping stone to mainland Japan, and it's a bitch to do. And he's right, your only great landing point is at the southern tip, but Taipei is at the northern one

>>50178735
Chinese manufacturing is already a dying sector, it’s moving to south east Asia, India and Bangladesh because it’s cheaper there

>>50178522
>How will China succeed?
well for one thing they won't go back to WWII technology, genius.

China would never just invade Taiwan because their narrative has always been that Taiwan is theres. Not SHOULD be, just is. In China's mind, invading Taiwan would be like the US invading Alaska. The most that could happen is the Taiwanese goverment asserts their independence militarily, which would allow a Chinese invasion under the pretense of Taiwanese radicalists attempting to secede. Which would also never happen because the US has thoroughly coached Taiwan on how not to provoke China.

Russian/Ukraine doesn't instantly mean China/Taiwan, or North/South Korea, or India/Pakistan, or any other decades long dick waving competitions will come to a head. Burry's a fucking autistic moron who has a big head after 2008.

>>50178707
You're so dumb
The US is not going to escalate like that

>>50178666
damn I didn't expect anyone talking about peter turchin on 4chin today

this tranny should stick to finances and keep his nose out of politics.

>>50178087
>China Strong
>literally invokes the mandate

CCP bagholderbro??

Burry is being dumb here, if Russia can barely handle Ukraine they can't attack a NATO ally.
>>50178816
A blockade is an act of war dummy. Biden already confirmed the US would intervene.

>>50178611
>Blockading the island that makes the computers go
>Expecting no response from the international community or Taiwan's neighbors

lmao

This schizo is off his meds again. He will delete this very soon.

>>50178735
>incompetent small dicked soulless bug people will be powerful
lol you have no idea. they're too focussed on image - they cant accept criticism and as a result cant learn from failure. The West is different - the reason it always wins is because it loses first and then learns from it. In an autocrats world thats impossible - double in the event of an Asian mindset in which saving face is literally the most important thing in the world. Their obsession with power projection is why they will lose.

>>50177910
If this is true, better make sure you update your PC, or get a new laptop right now. Prices are going to get sky high for tech. Upgrade now to chill for the next 5+ years or you will be paying a heavy premium

Michael “Bobo” Burry turns bullish on Mechanical Engineering

>>50178010
According to that logic Russia will never invade Ukraine and Germany will never axe Nord Stream 2. We don't live in that world anymore, keep up

>>50179053
The US heavily baited Russia into this war. It's not a real war, it's just an excuse for the US to write a check for 40 billion dollars

>>50179118
And it's now heavily baiting China into Taiwan. Point is we don't live in a world where countries only do what's convenient short term anymore. Now we're in a big long term game and everyone's making a big long term move while sacrificing short term benefits.

>>50177910
>China
>invading anything
If you are still bullish on China in current year then you are absolutely NGMI.

>>50178194
Funny watching all the midwits and idiots falling for this "china is the next superpower" shit
It's even funnier watching them think that they are smart. They think that their ideas are their own. What a joke.

>>50179646
You haven't done enough reading to understand what is going on. It's not my idea, why the fuck would that be my idea? You are a midwit because you lack the basic understanding of analyzing current events. Using pattern recognition along with critical thinking is how you weigh the probably of certain outcomes.

You clearly are not qualified to discuss this topic because your midwit brain is showing through your shallow comments.

>>50179770
>your midwit brain is showing through your shallow comments.
Says the guy who posted precisely nothing of any substance at all.

>>50179794
I done months of research into this topic. Why do you feel obligated I should share my knowledge and data? I get NOTHING trying to convince you the probability of Taiwan getting invaded is almost certain.

The probability of China as a political entity undergoing total collapse before the end of this decade is almost certain.

>>50179118
>The US heavily baited Russia into this war.
Why would the Democrats risk losing an election by baiting Ivans into a conflict that exacerbates inflation and harms other global allies? Did they not expect the war to become an attrition war or what?

>>50180016
zzzzzzzz

>>50178666
Checked, Satan knows best. There's also the option to continue slowly subverting Taiwan through politics into thinking that its right place is into Chinese hands. A direct confrontation is a big risk for China, if the invasion goes as bad as the Russian invasion of Ukraine, it will make the Chinese look like paper tigers (which I suspect they are, they have basically 0 military experience), and they don't want that, they want to look like a superpower like the US.

>>50178881
>Biden already confirmed
He can't even confirm if his own sphincter is opening or not. You probably mean the people behind him.

They'll just add some tariffs and sanctions on pointless stuff to China and further rug the American stock market in 2023. That's all that america will do.

America has never fought even a 2nd world nation face to face.

If Cambodia goes to war with Thailand, then America will intervene. But not in Taiwan and China they're too strong.

You know it's really funny because when Iran or Afghanis do something, Americans immediately drone strike them and tell the whole world they'll kill and murder whoever they want.

But they don't do a single thing when Russians start a war in Europe.

Really makes you think doesn't it? Americans are not so tough when the enemy has more nukes

>>50180018
I believe that all that shit happened because of pure incompetency. The people deciding on sanctions weren't even aware that it would disrupt our own economy, they were literally thinking that cutting the Russian gas and switching to another source was like pushing a button, and guess what, it was not. Illegally capturing Russian oligarchs assets was also a big mistake, now Chinese investors won't want to put money in Europe or the US because they know that it could get seized if China decides to invade Taiwan. The

I believe that they thought simply giving the middle finger to Putin in Ukraine would do nothing, or that sanctions would be enough to make Russia back down. And of course they were wrong, that's why they're going all in by giving tons of military gear and money to Ukraine, they're desperately trying to save face and unfuck the situation, that country is a very important asset for them in the region. At least they gained Sweden and Finland joining NATO, it makes for a nice little compensation.

>>50180107
China would suffer hard if they invaded Taiwan. Geographically, China is very vulnerably. They can really only trade through the south China sea, since their mountainous terrain in the west, jungle in the south and freezing ice in the north make land trade routes difficult, despite trying to reduce the risk with developing land routes in the BRI. It would be very easy to blockage China. Only 10% of their navy can really move into deep water and their only aircraft carriers designs are based off Soviet Kuznetsov, given the current state of Russia's is hilariously bad.

China has to import 80% of it's inputs for food and if that got shut off it would be mass famine in China. That isn't even considering China's demographic collapse. There is news that in China's latest census that maybe they over counted the population by 100 million, which is true, the population has been collapsing for a decade and the Chinese population will halves by 2050.

Invading Taiwan would require a lot of time preparing and any movements would easily be detected by Taiwan. If such a case occurs, Taiwan could restart their nuclear program and produce a nuke.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html

tl;dr China won't have it in the bag until 2025. Possibly sooner if America shits the bed harder. China has a million CPC members round the clock autistically collecting data and questioning every yokel farmer on every possible action they could take, there's no way they'd jump the gun.

>>50178087
>now that they're stronger than us.
lmao

>>50180798
Economically china has more international power. They're building up their military but they're not on par with ours, yet. Just look at how quickly south america for instance is turning socialist. The CIA can't do its fucking job any more.

>>50177985
delusional cope they more better aircraft carriers than the US

>>50179646
This. These morons don't know about all the glowie propaganda I consume that says if a fucking dam collapses china will lose everything. Don't these retards know our enemies are actually secretly super weak? How could our masters lie.

>>50177910
oh the boy who cried wolf cries wolf again, how could he ever be wrong THIS time?
remember that movie that said he was right?!?!?!? you guys remember it right!?!?!?!? that means he is right again!!!! because of the movie!!!!

>>50178076
Please elaborate on this 'Killswitch'

>>50180925
>>50180892

Jeesh you guys are fucking dumb midwits. Quit shitposting. There are dozens of subtle news coming out about a potential Invasion.

Just look at this recent news stated by China. They used the same phrase as Russia before they invaded Ukraine.

>>50177910
Sell all your crypto and wait for the crash when that happens

>>50178235
>China exports cheap plastic low quality shit that no one needs
vs
>America exports foodstuffs and natural resources to China
Who do you think is more in trouble if shit hits the fan?

>>50181167
China recently launched an aircraft named Fujian. There is a reason for the name Fujian. Go do your research and figure it out. I am not going to spell out for you. If researching after an hour and you can't understand why they chose that name you can be sure you are a fucking midwit idiot. And one who doesn't know how to use critical thinking.

>>50178087
>>50179118
>>50180173
>>50180831

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>>50181191
Midwit alert. Go learn macro you idiot. And China has been well aware of this famine issue. If you actually do your research you would know about Yazhou Bay seed Laboratory. It was established in may of 2021.The laboratory is tasked with the research and development of the new high yielding and high quality basedbean varieties that will result in a 45-50% production increase. China relies heavily on imported agriculture seeds. If China starts a war there will be strong sanctions from the West. Losing access to seeds would cause massive famine. That is why Emperor XI wants to elevate seed security to the level of national security.

>>50181289
>seed lab established in may 2021
>supposed to solve lack of all natural resources
Who is the midwit?
BTW, China doesn't pay you enough, dumb chink.

>>50181326
Ok faggot I'm not a payed shill. I actually do the research because I want to make $$$.

>>50181160
"alien invasion" to kickstart the one world government

>blue collar shortages
Wow if only they hadn't spent 25 years trying to get millennials to delay having kids until their late 30s. Imagine an america with like 40 million more white people. But that wouldn't fit someone's agenda, of course.

>>50181289
>muh sneed lab

>>50178740
Taiwan was part of Japan at the time, and the US expressly avoided it even though they wanted to defeat Japan.

>Burry

>>50178800
Technology has advanced for both offense and defence.

>>50177910
Get ready to storm the beaches of Taiwan, faggots. This will be the last "fuck you" from boomers.

>>50182413
This. 40% of boomers still support Joe Biden. Press S to spit.
>>50180064
>>50179884
Don't reply to the state department or zeihan shills. If they are genuine, I don't think they understand the exponential nature of AI. The US was set to fall partly because of the unholy neocon + zionist alliance and just entropy from the horrible fucking neoliberal policies after the Cold War.

This cunt is too full of himself. We're at the bottom, lads.

>>50182107
Blue collar wages are also extremely low. People don't go into them for a reason.

In WW1 there was a mass shortage of skilled lathe operators to make artillery fuses, the training takes up to 7 years. You know what they did they hired women and fucking paid them up the ass to train them quicktime on fewer stages. Because national security was at stake, not some fucking leeches trying to enslave ppl.

>>50182609
>training takes 7 years (but not really, it just takes a long time because they needed to extract money from people and give them the run around)
Ah at last I see this society was always broken and shitty.

>>50182500
Will AI be the breakaway industry?

>>50178522
The real questionaroonie no one asks is- why would China want to invade in the first place? Taiwan is already frens with the USA. Russia invaded Ukraine because they didn't want US bases near their border, but US ships already sail around Taiwan waters and tell China to fuck off so it doesn't really achieve anything strategically.

>>50177910
CCP won't do shit also TMSC would self destruct before pooh get his hands on it.

>>50178076
worded well - keep it quiet

>>50178010
>cost of alienating the Western world
I'm starting to get some serious Asian 18-19th century vibes from the West, and not in a good way

>>50180018
>Did they not expect the war to become an attrition war or what?
I honestly believe they are retarded and had no plan for the Russians not folding within a few months; They did get Europe fully revassalized which is the one silver lining of it all

>>50182727
It is literally a founding part of their constitution, the civil war never ended and tensions have been growing for years

China sacrificed a lot for the decades of meteoric growth it's experienced, that was for the specific purpose of becoming a rich country, surpassing the USA as world leader and reunification with Taiwan. Xi now wants to extend his rule indefinitely and to legitimize that he must deliver on these promises, China will soon overtake the US economically but as long as they're backed into a corner with all the rich nations against them they can't be said to have surpassed us and Taiwan is the only possible route of expansion to shatter the existing world order and set China up as leader of the world.

>>50177954
wrong

>>50178049
Source on Taiwan holding all the antiques?

>>50183726
I saw them. Anyone can, they have an amazing museum where they display all the treasures the royal family brought with them when they fled, highly recommend a visit if you're ever in Taipei

>>50178010
The alienation has already happened.

>>50181226
it looks like something a child would design because it's what they think a modern aircraft carrier is supposed to look like

So just suppose China starts some shit, would that make Intel the hottest thing ever? TSMC would obviously get rekt while the plants in America aren't ready, Samsung semi manufacturing would probably also suffer because of the proximity of Korea to whatever happens. Besides military industrial complex I can't think of any sector that would not tank very hard.

>>50180866
>they more better
yeah you tell them ming zhao

>>50177954
>march
The taiwan strait is impassable in march because of the current. When the current switches direction or whatever is it possible to cross and that's in like may and october.

>>50184490
Intel is stuck on 10nm. TSMC is on 5nm.

Intel is so far behind they are skipping 5nm and their roadmap is to get to 3nm in 2023. By that time the TSMC Arizona plant could be operational.

>>50177910
China only benefits from waiting to invade Taiwan. By 2027 the US navy will have a fraction of its current VLS tube capacity in the Pacific, that is likely when they'll attack.

>>50177985
The US navy is scrapping the ticonderoga class cruisers. We will be less capable in the Pacific than China very soon.

>>50184641
TSMC will likely abandon that idea unless Congress gets its shit together and gives them funding for the arizona plant.

>>50177954
retarded and wrong as usual

>>50184222
Checked thanks

>>50184490
Intel is not projected to catch up until 2026.

>>50184724
There is nothing to catch up to if you are the only player in town because your competitors are in a warzone.
Man, those captchas are getting hard to solve. I might not be human after all.

>>50177910
China's economy is essentially a zombie right now. It was suppose to die with the Evergrande default, but the CCP are buying time right now. Just like how the west was suppose to face a recession when covid hit. Instead, everyone bought time to culminate into some sort of world changing catastrophe.

>>50177910
we must convince them to wage war in the metaverse so that, while they are busy, we can invade them and have america 2
maybe we could use lace as bait

>>50184620
Current? The CCP army isn't swimming breaststroke over the strait ya dingus.

>>50178816
The US has no choice, if they don't escalate then they essentially let down all their allies in the region (Taiwan, Japan, SK) and signal to SEA countries that they're not going to do shit to help them if they stand up to China to protect their national interests. It would be a Suez moment for America.

It's very different from Ukraine which is still just a shithole in the middle of nowhere which only value is producing cereals, Taiwan is at the crossroad of Asia and in the middle of the most frequented trade route in the world.

>>50180866
You do realise that they need to ferry hundreds of thousands of troops across the water to capture the island? They dont have enough boats for that retard

>>50177985
They can pelt taiwan with artillerie

>>50178010
kek, they unleashed a bioweapon on the western world and you think they're afraid of alienating anyone?
Sounds like you think America is still in the 90s, with a spine and a position of global importance still intact

>>50177910
by shorting Chinese companies and investing in rare earths. If Chang invade they'll be sent back 40 years
>"b-but Russia's alliance"
Russia will be first to pick at the corpse

>>50184742
Problem starts when your infrastructure an performance is designed and centred around the most cutting edge CPU's which you can't source anymore.

>>50177978
>>50177910
Kek no they won't. They are watching how Russia is doing in Ukraine. Nato weaponry is quite good it turns out. China will play the long game of economic development.
>>50178235
We export food to China. We stop buying and they die. They don't have us by the balls at all chang.
>>50180831
Exports isn't economic power. It's convenient becasue changs use slave labor. China has very little actual power.

>>50177910
Long Lockheed martin and uranium

>>50182500
>retarded conspiracy theorist zoomer thinks he's a genius for believing in chinese propaganda that most people in the world believe in
Grade A fucking idiot.
>>50180769
>>50180831
>>50180892
And another one
>>50179884
>I done months of research into this topic
Yeah, any research your doing is probably valueless. Live and learn! hahahahahahahahahahaha. Taiwan invasion is a nothing burger, the entire world has already realized this. I guess braindead zoomies are a little slow on the uptake. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ukraine invasion was more politically relevant.

>>50177985
Surely at this point China have whatever fucking resources they want. They have the biggest of everything and certainly have enough ships to cross over into a fucking little island. I can't stand this kind of dismissive posturing from people trying to give that fake expert veneer of a dismissive general. You're talking out of your ass. China is just waiting for the right time. It has more than enough might t stamp on Taiwan.

>>50178010
But China also has leverage over the West and has the agility to shift towards a multi-polar, self-sufficient world far quicker that the West does. In a way, the West depends on China for essentials more than the other way around so they may call our bluff. Look how well it went for the West when they decided to feel alienated by Russia. Russia is making tons more money than it ever has through the gas it sells the West and the West is going through an exacerbated economic crisis while Russia is winning the war. Imagine that with China, you have no idea how bad it would get for us.

>>50187278
>certainly have enough ships to cross over into a fucking little island
No they dont actually

>>50187313
China can produce advanced semi-conductors or essential plane parts. If decoupling occurs the west might hurt but China will be set decades back while surrounded by hostile powers.

>>50187313
Just sanction china ;)
It worked so well for Russia didn't it.

>>50177910
I wish you niggers would stop posting this schizo.
Melon husk was right calling him a broken clock.

>>50187339
It has the largest Navy in the world you donkey. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Navy_Surface_Force#:~:text=According%20to%20the%202020%20China,the%20United%20States%20Navy's)
It also has a huge airforce to drops bombs on the island (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Air_Force))
Taiwan would likely fall very quickly, sadly.

>>50187359
apples and oranges. also, yes, Russia is hurting, who cares if germs suffer their own inept green policies

>>50187356
I hear you but surely it would just learn to overcome that relatively quickly?
Being surrounded by hostile forces would certainly be a problem hence I think they are really just playing for time. They are investing in regions lie the Belt and Road initiative, getting their own US-style bases set-up, while the West seems to continue weakening. At some point, they won't be concerned about being surrounded by enemies.

>>50187378
Largest navy doesnt mean good troop carrying capacity retard chink. China has only a few ships with capacity to carry thousands of troops at once and quess what, if taiwan manages to sink even 1 of those vessels it will be catastrophic for china. Practically game over

>>50177910
He's not wong

>>50187425
Kek. My name is Ji Jing Ping not 'retard chink'.
Maybe China will choose a different strategy then than immediately landing troops a la D Day. They can besiege the island with heavy artillery along with blitz like air attack weakening Taiwan. Then they'll send in the thousands of troops on the ships they have. A few ships is enough. Or maybe they'll do what the US did to Japan to once and for all display their might and nuke it.

>>50177910
nah

>>50178235
Most US dept is credited to China. They literally own your ass.

>>50187425
Kek. My name is CZ actually, not 'retard chink'
Maybe China will choose a different strategy then than immediately landing troops a la D Day. They can besiege the island with heavy artillery along with blitz like air attack weakening Taiwan. Then they'll send in the thousands of troops on the ships they have. A few ships is enough. Or maybe they'll do what the US did to Japan to once and for all display their might and nuke it.

>>50187425
Navy is meaningless nowdays anyway bar intercepting nukes and posturing in the sea

>>50187425
They'll just send millions of those vessels with a few men each. Zerg rush Taiwan

>>50177910
>invades
Take your meds. Taiwan is China. Inhabited by Chinese. And 89% are approving the CCP rule. US just want another proxy war.

>>50177910
does this mothafucker have any good news, each tweet is some doom and gloom post about the biggest economic crash or the next world war

USA should just say they will nuke the Chinese fleet when they are in transit to Taiwan.

>>50178049
>They might unironically help Taiwan's semiconductor industry build factories in the US

This is already happening, though I don't know if China is openly supporting it in any way.

Once the US can make them at home they'll have little economic incentive to protect Taiwan from an invasion. Their only incentive will be for military control over China and their access to the ocean. Which can hardly be justified

>>50187313
>West depends on China for essentials more than the other way around so they may call our
No the US doesn't. Chips come from Taiwan. Food is all us grown. China isn't self secure. They can't survive on a purely domestic market.

>>50177935
Why does he delete everything, its really fucking annoying. Can't he just act like a normal person ffs

And the Chinese will nuke the US when it does starting WW3

Dumb ass nigger posting nigger responses

>>50187775
yea I heard of a big move in semiconductors from Taiwan to Nevada, US.
why Barry think China is gonna invade taiwan?
the leaked China/Russia conversation about invading Ukraine, China said they want to invade taiwan in August.

>>50187680
where are u seeing that 89% of Taiwan supports ccp? I googled it and saw the opposite, 89% dissaprove of ccp. ill admit I'm completely unfamiliar with China/Taiwan stuff tho

>>50187224
kill yourself. I hope a pack of niggers rapes your fucking mestiza and beheads your 12 gremlins.

>>50187313
Every single person I have ever met hates China with a passion, from Europeans to Arabs to Africans, total war against them would be broadly supported by everyone. In the event of a war, the West would simply default on all their debt to China, making it worthless.

Chinas demographics are on borrowed time

If they are going to make a move on Taiwan it basically has to be by 2030

I think they will, if you look at China's history whenever you think they won't do something crazy, they go balls to the wall schizo

Taiwan is incredibly hard to invade, and I don't think China really needs to invade it. But wtf do I know?

>>50177910
>How do I profit from this.
Short Canada's housing market.

>>50177910
they'll invade on june 2023.
digits confirms.

>>50178087
glowing or retarded cant tell

>>50187731
More like the US fleet is in transit lmao

>>50188778
this
china should be scared of taiwan invading china more than the other way round lol

>>50178010
China has been at war with the West since 1950. There was a small thaw during the late 90s and early 2000's, but based Xi Xinping corrected the course.

>>50178707
China has land based anti-shipping missiles with ranges over 500 km. And China has a shitload of them. They also have a shitload of submarines with many anti-ship missiles. If the USA did that they would loose the aircraft carrier battle group.

>>50188476
Nobody did anything when Russia invaded. People love china way more than they love Russia.
What makes you think america will react to Taiwan?
There will be a few sanctions that's all

>>50179136
>everyone's making a big long term move
How is replacing the native ethnic population with third worlders a long term move? Other countries are indeed playing the long game, but the West is still knees deep in electoral politics that promote short term thinking

>>50177910
>war spreads into the EU

kek

>>50178087
>The CCP's entire mandate depends on their promise of reunification with Taiwan.
Why? What’s so good about Taiwan? Or the Ukraine?
What is the benefit going to war for additional landmass that is full of a population that hates you? Is the land really that great?

>>50185345
A economy that manufactures everything isn't going to die because some real estate company died lmao

>>50181226
china has been ready to invade taiwan since i could literally read faggot
i dont care anymore, go get a cardboard sign and stand on the side of a highway at this point.

>>50187425
why would they have to invade Taiwan with beach landings? Have you seen Taiwan in a map? Just blockade it

The Lithuania/Kaliningrad thing is obvious for any IQ80 retard though

>>50189648
>Why? What’s so good about Taiwan?
Read a bit about the warlord period in China history so you can understand why the CCP puts so much value on reunification
>What is the benefit going to war for additional landmass that is full of a population that hates you?
It breaks the first line of containment of China. It would also signal a massive victory of China versus the American empire, which could have massive worldwide political consequences.

>>50189759
Lithuania and the rest of the Baltic states are a part of Nato. These shitty countries contribute essentially nothing other than being buffer states between western world and Russia and providing front line bases for real Nato troops.
The only way Russia would invade those territories is if they knew that Nato would rather abandon their allies than risk nuclear war. Which would also mean the end of the alliance. US would rather nuke Europe themselves than let this happen.

>>50190020
That is if Russia attacks first. If the belters attack Russia first (because they trusted some promises made by jews working for uncle Sam) then the article 5 is not activated.
And it being the end of NATO is not so sure, Western Europe nowadays is completely isolated, they have no independent foreign policy from USA. The only ones who could have helped Europe have some sort of independence, like Russia, has been driven away by Europe itself
Germany itself is one of the main victims of the sanctions on Russia, and look at them, they are still enthusiastic participants in the mountrous American empire project. Never underestimate the suicidal tendencies of modern whites.

>>50189544
Destroying an aircraft carrier means all-out war.

>>50190020
NATO is already fighting Russia by proxy

Doomer delusions

>>50190230
You are delusional if you think China would not shoot down a USA aircraft carrier that tried to intervene in a Chinese occupation of Taiwan. Like i said, China is at war with the West since 1950.

>>50190142
Butthurt belt politicians love to scream about Russia being evil and that they need to get their alleged historical lands back since it gets them votes in their countries and pity from the west, but even they know that actually attacking Russia would be a really, really stupid idea. So I wouldn't put my money on that happening.

>>50190275
That they do, hence Russian whining about weapon supplies to Ukraine being equal to actual war, but actual exchange of fire would result in nuclear war. And while some people genuinely entertain the possibility, I think they know it's not in their best interests.

>>50190403
It is not likely that belters would attack Russia, but i wouldn't put my hands on fire for it. The butthurt they have towards Russia is not just a cynical electoral move, it is a very real thing. Ukraine already did it. If uncle Sam pushes for it, with many quiet assurances that America would come to their rescue (and break them, like they did with Ukraine), i could definitely see it happen.

>>50180866
No they don't.
>>50185827
No it's way too far for artillery, cruise missiles can reach it but those are incredibly much more expensive than artillery shells.
>>50187278
The amount of ships China's navy has is publicly available information, they have an enormous shortfall in amphibious landing capability if they want to invade Taiwan. You need at least 1 soldier per 1000 citizens if you are invading and occupying, that means around 240 000 troops that need landing, China has no way near that capability.

>>50190301
When is he ever wrong?

>>50190402
You are delusional if you think China will attempt to sink an aircraft carrier. Their navy is fucked if they try to take on a carrier battle group

>>50177935
when you throw 1000 darts at the board youre bound to get a bulleyed

>>50187461
That is completely incorrect. Of the $30 trillion or so US national debt, about $1 trillion is owned by China. The Japanese own more of it. In total, about $7 trillion of the US debt is owned by foreigners, the other $23 trillion is held by American (or well, for the Federal Reserve (((American))) entities.

Plus if a shooting war starts between the US & China, expect that trillion to be canceled.

>>50191006
>but those are incredibly much more expensive than artillery shells.
Good thing China has a massive industrial capacity to make these things
> amphibious landing capability
They wouldn't have to do this. Just look at a map, Taiwan is right on the Chinese shore. Just blockade it with the navy and airforce until they surrender, while softening them up artillery. A mass naval invasion could happen, but it would be more of a prestige move than a pragmatic move
Either way i don't think this will happen, all China has to do is to wait a few more years until the West collapses more and Taiwan will be begging to join them.

>>50191137
They wouldn't engage the aircraft carrier group with their surface fleet, that would be a suicide they would just destroy it with their long range anti-ship missiles or their (surprisingly advanced and large) submarine fleet. And you are delusional if you think China wouldn't do this, taking down a American ACNG would be the single largest US military defeat since over 50 years or more.

>>50191445
Not to mention that their alliance with Russia may allow them to access weapons like this which are almost impossible to intercept with the technology that USA currently has.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M22_Zircon

>>50184681
Why would VLS capacity drop?

>>50177978
us didn't send goyim to die for ukraine china knows they won't for taiwan.
china and russia have a surplus of young cannon fodder

China is gonna die within the next 30 years
>demographics that make 1980s Japan look good
>de-coupling of supply chains
>4:1 debt:GDP ratio
>food insecurity
>energy insecurity
>terrible geography (hemmed in my first island chain)
>falling into the middle income trap and are no longer a cheap labor provider

A sane person would realize invading Taiwan wouldn’t be worth it but for a dying madman…
Taking Taiwan would be insanely difficult due to geography and the asymmetric warfare that Taiwan has at its disposal. Add Japan/USA to the mix and it gets even worse.
Trying to blockade Taiwan would probably invoke a tit for tat blockade of China that would see them deindustrialize and starve within 6 months

>>50177910
live innawoods and let cattle argue about it

>>50189754
How do you capture a country with a blockade? Impossible in the modern world

china has been about to invade Taiwan for only about 50 years now. surely this time its happening!!!

>>50178049
>help Taiwan's semiconductor industry build factories in the US
Already happening!

>>50177910
jeez what an embarrassingly stupid take
really makes you reconsider if shorting the housing market in 2007 was just a fluke

>>50177910
>as the war in Ukraine spreads into the EU, maybe via Lithuania
i like burry but what the fuck is he talking about? the russians barely made any progress.
also china can afford to wait a little longer to invade taiwan. if they invade right now, they will have to face the us military.

>>50181288
-10000000 credits bing chilling Winnie the Pooh
EDIT: Thanks for the gold!!!

>>50177910
the one trick pony guy kek

>>50177910
Puts on nvidia

Also why are their usa glowniggers itt.

Like are you really defending a country that encourages hrt to kids?

>>50184222
Is it the museum in the Japanese governor's palace? I remember a lot of jade statues but I tend to get bored in museums that just have rows of artefacts as they lack context.

>>50187404
>surely it would just learn to overcome that relatively quickly?
Can they do that though? From what I've heard those lithography machines are very difficult to manufacture, only a few companies can do it, and with China having a reputation for stealing tech rather than invent/discover things themselves they might struggle.

>>50195051
You blockade the country until it surrenders. All it takes for Taiwan to surrender is for USA to not help them.

>>50193911
>Chinese birth rate falls to lowest in seven decades
>17 January 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51145251

>>50198578
That is a issue for 20 years from now on. Right now China has hundreds of millions of 18-35 year old males.
One thing China also has is hundreds of millions of poor farmers, a thing that the West no longer has, which traditionally always made the best recruiting pool for soldiers.

>>50194190
>shares land border with Russia and India

>>50192218

They're scrapping all the old ships, anon. US Navy is full of shit from the 80s and 90s plus garbage like Zumwalts and LCS that does not work.

>>50198317
No, the National Palace Museum

>>50198667
Bro you think foot soldiers win wars in 2022?

We have 11 nuclear powered aircraft carriers my guy.

>>50202296
aircraft carriers are relics, aren't very useful in a peer war. Also both the Russian and Chinese strategies would be mostly defensive,and aircraft carriers aren't the best suited for the job. Aircraft carriers are sitting ducks for a barrage of anti-ship missiles, and Russia has hypersonic ones. They are still very useful to bully third world countries.

>>50177985
china has a bigger navy than the USA u fucking drooling spastik mongrel. holy shit. china would wipe the floor with Taiwan. would take a couple of days at most

>>50202296
China has hypersonic missiles. Aircraft carriers are only good for defending trade routes from third-world pirates. Regardless, there won’t be a war because the KMT and its military will never allow the DPP to do anything to change the 1922 constitution. They will much sooner declare Marshall law and purge the pan green before China's PLA can even begin to plan an invasion.

>>50196977
>>50191150
>>50190301
>>50188200
only relevant posts, burry is a bear shitlord, opinion disregarded

>>50177910
Go all in on China. They're about to have a field day.

>>50177910
>How do I profit from this
By being Jewish

>>50177935
yeah because the fucking SEC 'paid him a visit' and he's walking on thin ice

>>50205283
Their digital yuan is about to make a mess, and push people to buy and and believe Jews are the best degens. They might won't accumulate once BTC reaches fucking 10K dip.

>>50206253
he wont acept the giff

>>50205520
It doesn't matter what will be the news in the next few months as Polkadot will emerge for sure like having a revenge on Vitalik for sticking with his 2.0 shit and can't make it happen to reality.

>>50206786
nothing good with dot but dumping cunt

>>50206851
Not only Polkadot is dumping but BTC itself and they are just following the trend. You need to take your meds boomer. Even Equilibrium's team is still waiting for the right timing to least their token. And they are going to be the next big thing in Polkadot. Kek.

>>50202296
>We have 11 nuclear powered aircraft carriers my guy.
Why didn't US give one of those to Ukraine? If they have so many I'm sure they could have spared one. And it would have given Ukraine a better chance against Russia's nuclear weapons.

>>50177910
As Taiwanese I care a bit but not scared of reunification. But as an astrophysicist and with a hobby of astronomy, I hope the reunification will accelerate astrophysics and more space missions to come. Every old person here knows a war with China will only benefit the West, so we're not giving them that hospitality.

>>50199296
Via a big ass desert and a large mountain range, and India has been in a state of proxy war with China for two decades at least

>>50202229
Someone told me that was originally the governor's palace. Nvm.

>>50207398
>t. false-flag bugman in disguise.

I don't think you're actually Taiwanese, stop lying.

>>50207398
What, I thought the true Chinese from the island are larping as communist hating Nazis, regularly electing anti unification presidents.

>>50207848
Not all of them, some of them even tired of her president bullshit and throw pig guts in the parliament. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUn6T2BsQDY

It'll happen this Autumn. Chinks have no creativity, they will see Russia invading Ukraine and decide to follow in their footsteps.

These threads are always hilarious because of how many pic related's come out of the woodwork with their American exceptionalism, sabre rattling and referring to the USA as 'we'.

>>50198538
Lol, in your dreams maybe

it would be the smartest time to do it now if they are going to. The west is too invested in the Ukraine situation to deal with a full force invasion in Taiwan.

Merge mining with bitcoin serves the main purpose of giving the syscon platform the second highest hash rate in all of crypto; thus making it virtually impregnable.

>>50207848
>true Chinese from the island
Most of the youth consider themselves Taiwanese rather than Chinese but even if they didn't how would they be the "true Chinese"? If they aren't aboriginals and didn't come over during the civil war, they're descended from the Qing dynasty. They're no more, and possibly less, Chinese than the mainlanders.

>>50178010
>cost of alienating the Western world
Have you read the news in the last, I don't know, 5 years?