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Rumor going around that Kucoin might freeze withdrawals in the near future. Given how many exchanges have jewed XMR holders in the past it wouldn't hurt to take your coins off that exchange, if you have anything there of course

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STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
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>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
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>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

Morning boys. Only a matter of time until the shills roll in. NEVER give them (you)s.

>>50100633
It's about Monero-chan, right?

>>50100534
>>50100594
>>50100616
>>50100633
>>50100650
>>50100665
Why do we have to have so many pastes?
Can't these just be combined into one using a few pastebin links or something.
They need to be updated anyways...

>>50099379
puzzle still going, almost been a couple hours

>>50100851
We need an extended max size for thread starters comments.

>>50100851
>almost nobody clicks pastebin links
>someone's gotta help educate noobs
>infodump anon is a saint and a scholar

you fucks have been bitching about the pastes for over a year but you haven't just added filters so you don't see them every time, you do it to yourselves.

>>50101187
How does this work?
Do i put the stuff into the monero GUI programs corresponding fields?

>>50101336
Basically. You can recover a wallet from seeds using the public address/secret view key to create a view only wallet to see if anyone figured it out.
The private key gives you spend control over the account, and you get that from solving the puzzle.

>>50101425
Is it a mnemonic electrum seed or key?

>>50100587
based

REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL (MINI)

okay, so somehow he turned the 64 character alphanumeric secret spend key into a 153 character string containing only lowercase letters. By what means could he have done that?

Unless it's a jumbled mnemonic seed with no spaces and he incorrectly labeled it as a "private key", which would be pretty douchey and also not be much of a puzzle because at that point you're just brute-forcing seed phrases.

>>50101187
I DID IT!

>>50102960
Congrats nigger faggot!
How did you do it?

>>50102960
>>50103006
It was a seed phrase with each word scrambled up. I used an anagram solver and https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/src/mnemonics/english.h to get the words. It was pretty hard because there were multiple words it could have been a few times, right near the end I realised I'd got a word wrong and it was pretty intense working out which one before another anon got my treasure but I did it. The seed phrase is:soapy citadel punch ammo industrial happens fountain javelin zombie pizza absorb amended ruffled trying plus berries nudged cupcake mailed nestle aimless ammo were aces fountain
There's still a tiny bit in there because I didn't know how much the transaction fee was so someone can slurp up the last 0.005 if they want. Thanks for the fun anon!

>>50102529
tried and trie and reorganized based on different patterns, but didn't succeed in getting anything meaningful out of it.

>>50080107
So what exactly does this mean for Monero now?
Seems like privacy isnt an option anymor eno matter what.

>>50103115
Even if KYC is enforces on a wallet, you can still make transactions privately without any 3rd party knowing so, exact amount would also still be unknown.
You can also use that KYC wallet as a burner and move your funds to a "clean slate".

>>50100534
Monerochads can you confirm or deny the redpill about king shitcoin BTC?
> mile s w math is dot com slash bitfraud dot pdf

If it is confirmed I will dump all my BTC and go all in on monerochan's tits.

>>50102960
>>50103075
grats. glad you had fun. I caught the citadel/dialect dilemma after I posted it, nice job.

>>50100587

>>50103339
I wouldn't have had a chance with putting it apart and reorganizing it in the text editor right?

How did you tumble it?
Did you do this manually with a forseeable pattern or was it done by a tumbler mixing it totally random?
I'm seriously interested, because i partly saw fragments of meaningful words but couldn't figure out the pattern they were mixed with.
Brain cooking now lol.

>>50103468
mixing was random, with a set seed so it could be reproduced. I also made an unscrambling script while waiting for someone to get it. The puzzle should be possible by hand, but I didn't try it. May not be worth .25 xmr for the effort required. Might be a cute way to store your phrase in a slightly obfuscated way to prevent basic snooping, but still be recoverable without memorizing anything.

scrambler script: https://pastebin.com/5vZqiyra
solver script: https://pastebin.com/Eg8dkkxh

>>50100665
I finally took the time to read the post linked at the bottom of this pasta. I understand the issues with Bitcoin due to the shrinking block reward eventually becoming so small that securing the network will be unprofitable for many miners but is Monero’s tail emission really enough to ensure an equilibrium between energy costs and new money invested into the system? I guess time will tell. Monero mining, even if it’s at a loss, at least comes with the benefit that it’s a true kyc-less onramp into crypto which may be worth a price premium in and of itself.

>>50103339
I didn't run into that one, the roadblocks I had were things like "emails/aimless" where I could tell I'd got something wrong by there being no possible words with the available letters. I did it by hand (I could have written a script but it would have taken too long), but 0.25 xmr was definitely worth it for me since I'm a poorfag.

>>50103715
I see, it was scrambled way too much to solve this in a reasonable time when doing it manually
What i thought was that you had somehow just to fill 25 rows from top down by splitting the scrambled letters apart in a certain pattern in order to restore the phrases.
This could have been done from beginning to end or vice versa.
But i was totally wrong. Would have been too easy after all.

>>50102259
>>50103366
<3

>>50104268
Wirey boi help
>>50103222

>>50104525
I'm reading it now, If this is basically the "bitcoin is being co-opted by bankers and governments as surveillance money" or the "maxis let 'the man' clip BTC's nuts and has turned it into a trash project that must rely on centralized solutions like lightning network" then yes that is almost completely true, Bitcoin is a glorified bank with none of the FDIC assurances you get at a fiat bank and all of the full-fat on-chain slowness and inefficiency you've come to expect from blockchains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g

>>50104942
>f this is basically the "bitcoin is being co-opted by bankers and governments as surveillance money" or the "maxis let 'the man' clip BTC's nuts and has turned it into a trash project that must rely on centralized solutions like lightning network" then yes that is almost completely true,
Oh no, this is much bigger than that.

MUCH

>>50104983
Yeah...
Monero is a key player in a battle that has been raging on since the Roman empire. America fought this monster and won against it three times, but was finally done in through the following:
>1862 founding of the IRS (groundwork also laid for the Fed)
>1913 founding of the US's 3rd central bank, The Federal Reserve
>1933 all gold is seized by the federal government
>1971 American money stops being gold-backed.
Our money has been completely worthless, tracked, inflated, taxed, and usury-ridden for 50 fucking years.

>>50105277
>Our money has been completely worthless, tracked, inflated, taxed, and usury-ridden for 50 fucking years.
Which is why a wise person only buys sound money - gold, silver and Monero.

>>50104942
relevant twitter thread
https://twitter.com/SamouraiWallet/status/1542562020087717892

>>50105337
Exactly.
PMs/Monero chads unite!

>>50104942
Which is why you see a lot of establishment folks like Jack Dorsey become bitcoin maximalists. If bankers wants a cryptocurrency, then Bitcoin is perfect for them to push because its private than even fiat money.

>>50100534
Enables extreme crime like child sex trafficking. Shut it down

>>50105396
Would be more accurate to say has sound money rather than buys*.
We are together brother!

>>50105432
>Bitcoin is perfect for them to push because its private than even fiat money.
Bitcoin is not more private than fiat, every transaction is permanently recorded. You do not know how much physical cash my grandmother gave me for my birthday as a kid.

>>50105436
It is only a tool, like yourself.

>>50105349
Aristotle also (rightly) denied the TMV (Time-Value of Money).
He said that charging interest (usury) is unnatural/unethical because money does not do anything when left in a box. He is correct.

>The most hated sort, and with the greatest reason, is usury, which makes a gain out of money itself, and not from the natural object of it. For money was intended to be used in exchange, but not to increase at interest. And this term interest, which means the birth of money from money, is applied to the breeding of money because the offspring resembles the parent. Wherefore of an modes of getting wealth this is the most unnatural.

FUCK JEWS.

>>50105436
>ENABLES extreme crime like child sex trafficking.
So you admit the money isn't the problem, rather that the crime is?
If not, give me all of your cash because it's used for that too.
>Shut it down
Jew.

>>50105277
>>50105337
I'm interested in economics geopolitics and history since long and can claim to know at least a good bit more than average joe about these topics I always felt uncomfy, when thinking about our current state of the US dollar or other currencies that basically have gone the same desastrous way.
At first, i was very fascinated, when the Bitcoin came up and i learned that it is limited to 21 million BTC only, but got a bit dissapointed when i also had to learn that the blockchain is totally traceable and coins can be blacklisted by the feds and others.

These above mentioned issues brought me to Monero.
In a world with declining privacy for the masses, it is essential to have economical freedom. And that's nothing you can accomplish with Bitcoins due to its visible transaction history.
I think, that mostly people with a certain political worldview, flock around Monero. Those who don't care for privacy or fungability issues, don't see the value and potential in Monero.
Even if some people using Monero might be leftists, they have to be pretty redpilled on certain topics to appreciate the advantages that comes with it.
NPC's will only adopt, because everyone has or did adopt. But they will never know, nor understand why they had to adopt to Monero.

We have something in common. We took the redpill on topics like privacy, security and anonymity. And i guess that most of us are very critical to the current development and globohomo pushing their agenda with huge steps.
I consider the Monero community being very homogenous on most topics relating the reasons why Monero exists in the first place.
This is a good thing.

>>50100587
Based

>>50105752
>Those who don't care for privacy or fungibility issues, don't see the value and potential in Monero.
Thing is, people will eventually care because the Truth does not stay hidden for long. More examples like the canadian truckers will resurface - the only thing that'll make the vast majority adopt it, is a unified cause to do so (law of cause and effect). Perhaps this'll happen with the worldwide fiat collapse, but Monero has competitors (gold & silver) that are historically used as sound money, plus their physicality (doomsday scenario but no internet = no xmr).
In my opinion, the basis of sound monetary trifecta would be the aforementioned. Everything else is auxiliary.

>I consider the Monero community being very homogenous on most topics relating the reasons why Monero exists in the first place. This is a good thing.
So do I, it was the only crypto community that I've found that actually talks about fundamentals and technicalities, that is unafraid to improve and make the network superior to its "competitors". There's something unique to it.

>>50105512
Based

>>50106115
>There's something unique to it.
:/
This is how it is supposed to be, but then the moonfag culture caught on.

bumpo

>>50106994
>This is how it is supposed to be, but then the moonfag culture caught on.
To add to this a little more; gambling on stocks and speculations has always heralded financial collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKhN1t_7PEY

Great discussions anons, time to continue slurping getting close to the Make It Stack

>>50108432
> moonfag culture
So you're promoting monero on your own time for what? A cult?

>>50109192

Monero-chan is a goddess.

>>50108410
>>50106115
>>50105444
Anonz, do you have educated guesses on when you think xmr will parity with btc? and when with ETH?

>>50109192
There is no bad reason to buy Monero as an investment. Many of us stack it. But we also stress that you need to use it as well. If Monero doesn't moon, oh well. Keep stacking but keep actually using it.
What we absolutely despise is moonboys who are in it for the number going up. They are cancer. They ruined Bitcoin. So we bully them and tell them to sell because we'd rather them sell so we can continue buying cheap Monero.
>>50110246
parity? lol that is a long ways away, if ever. But I think the ratio will continue to rise. Anything under 0.01 is a steal.

>>50109192
I literally do it for free

>>50110246
Bitcoin's mining reward becomes unsustainable after only a couple more halvings.
Fingers crossed the next one is all it takes.

>>50110647
BTC is unsustainable NOW if it can't stay above 22k.

>>50100587
Based

https://youtu.be/sVx1mJDeUjY

>XMR/BTC chart

>>50111833
Nero Tunes !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY

>>50101274
add filters where? you cant filter posts in an individual thread

>>50112805
>being this new

>>50103786
Any thoughts at all?

Meta post -- In the OP, feather wallet should be listed above my Monero. It is easily the best gui wallet and is great for normies.
Thoughts anons?

>>50114643
Monero's hash rate will likely grow regardless of price because people keep installing miners on their work computers since the electricity is free for them.

>>50110647
Genuine question, what happens with monero once the overall supply becomes that big that the 0.6xmr tail emission is not enough to sustain miners?
Tail emission in xmr seems to only be a temporary bandaid for the same problem btc will encounter

>>50115049
>is not enough to sustain miners?
why would it not be enough to sustain miners? Bitcoin's is problematic because it is going to zero overtime and will rely solely on transactions, when the network isn't even being used for transactions. This will be a massive problem considering Bitcoin is attempting to move everything to a second layer. How will this be sustainable if hundreds of millions of people are using the base layer to move onto the second layer? It wouldn't be.
Also, what you are not getting is that tail emission does two things -- it gives a reward to miners, but it also enforces the dynamic block size. As the transactions in Monero continue to grow, eventually dynamic block size will be hit. Once that happens, then blocks will have to grow in size relative to the increase in transactions. If miners attempt to influence to blocks (ex. by jamming as many transactions into a block as possible, and thereby increasing the block size too fast) then they will be hit with a fee penalty, and the block reward will be burned, thereby disincentivizing the miner from attempting to profit off of this property.

>>50115182
attempt to influence blocksize*

If your annual net income is X dollars and total expenses is 0.63X dollars, how many moneros would you buy and how much will you be in fiat, how much in equity and how much in PM?

>>50115049
That problem is at least several eons away, while bitcoin has it now.

>>50105512
You have two options, you pay me now and I give you this item right now, or you pay me now and I give you this item a year from now. Are you saying you'd have a hard time deciding because they're both equal choices?

why won't crypto.com listen XMR?

>>50115049
Having a deflationary currency for hodlers and mooners is less important than securing the network. I think if monero was under constant 51% attacks, and we couldn't rally enough grassroot miners, most users would be okay with a hard fork which raises tail emissions. Current emission rate grows the coin at about .9% per year, but less every year. A fixed low inflation rate of 1-2% is likely ideal in the long term if an increase in xmr value doesn't make the mining payout affordable.

>>50113484
if youre referring to 4chanX? its an unusable bloated piece of shit

>>50116836
They're pussy

>>50100534
What kind of development is Monero working on?

Will buying frequently on localmonero get me in trouble with my bank?

>>50115840
40% XMR
40% BTC
10% Bluechip dividend stocks
10% silver

>>50117789
>ETH-XMR atomic swaps
>Bisq forks that use Monero as the base trading pair
>Quantum resistant cryptography
>general efficiency upgrades
>Improvements to p2pool mining
>not directly related but Fluffypony is/was apparently working on a merge-mined NFT sidechain

Can you even buy anything with monero?

>>50117789
1. Farcaster -- BTC <--> XMR atomic swap
2. Noot's ETH <--> XMR atomic swap
3. August Hard fork (https://www.getmonero.org/2022/04/20/network-upgrade-july-2022.html))
4. Haveno (bisq fork)
5. Seraphis Hard Fork (very ambitious, probably two years away, but will introduce a new address scheme and new architecture to improve Monero and introduce ring sigs of 64-128 in size).
6. Statistical analysis project called OPSEAD (will improve ring sig selection to protect against statistical attacks)

>>50117986
no liquid cash?

>>50118188
If you have no PMs and BTC/XMR I would immediately buy some, and I say that as someone who doesn't think the bottom is in. You risk bagholding fiat waiting for a bottom that never materializes and then you're going to be pissed if you have to buy in higher than what you wanted to, while meanwhile that fiat you were holding evaporates in your hand with a zero percent chance to ever get that lost purchasing power back. If you already have a nice crypto and PM stack then it's a question of how confident you are in timing the bottom and how much of a degenerate gambler you are. I'm a degenerate who already has decent stacks so I have a few grand set aside for timing the bottom (and a cushion for bills/car repairs too obviously). I have been exiting out of fiat over the last 6 months, most of my savings account has just been going into dip buying.

Also I'm a random person on the internet so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I'm a dummy.

>>50117874
Use bitcoin from a wallet to purchase there dude

>>50118535
>If you already have a nice crypto and PM stack
Thats me.
> (and a cushion for bills/car repairs too obviously)
How thick is this cusion? as a percentage of your yearly income.
> I'm a degenerate who already has decent stacks
This is a question: Is a sui considered a decent stack?
>I have been exiting out of fiat over the last 6 months
Me too, but since two years.
> Also I'm a random person on the internet so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
Aano bhadra krtavo yantu vishwatah

I do not want to become a gambler therefore want to have a decent fiat cusion, the question is how thick this cushion should be.

>>50118988
>How thick is this cusion? as a percentage of your yearly income.

15% for me. Would probably be lower if I had a reliable back-up car.

>This is a question: Is a sui considered a decent stack?
Depends on where you're from. If you're in a third world country with a low cost of living, a suicide stack would be more than enough. If you're a Westerner with a decent income I would probably be looking at closer to 50 before feeling comfortable.

Based moneropilled desert people
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>>50119091
>15% for me.
I am currently at 4% :(
Plus i am planning to emigrate from one first world country (which is turning brown) to another first world country (which is turning yellow).
> decent income
I pay 44% in income tax and 11.7% on average on value added tax. So any income is indecent.
> would probably be looking at closer to 50 before feeling comfortable.
Good target, thank you.

>>50118078
Pretty much anything. monerica.com

>>50114952
How easy is this to do without getting caught? Do I actually install miners on company computers or do I bring one from home?
Asking for a friend

>>50117986
>>50118188
>Bluechip dividend stocks
Market and fiat shall crash, get the real deal:
30% XMR
30% Gold
30% silver
10% physical cash just incase

>>50115840
0% Silver
5% Gold
20% XMR
75% BTC
Cash only for daily expenses.

how do you guys cope with wageslaving or the world around you in general? i don't have a bottom of the barrel job as i am in the tech sector, but i am legit losing my interest in society as a whole and am about to just live as a bum, accumulating only motivated me this far

When're we getting rich lads?

>>50103115
>Seems like privacy isnt an option anymor eno matter what.
That's an option that cannot be negotiated. Although, it seems more secure when trading privately with trust less smart contract privacy protocols on the chain.

>>50103196
Just like withdrawing tokens after unshielding into wallets not affiliated with any KYC party? I saw a demonstration of that with Railway lately

>>50105277
Hmmmm

>>50105481
That's a logic argument there. Fiat money is seemingly private than anything going on in the chain. However, permanently recorded transactions and the information can be exclusive to wallets' owners. This has been repeatedly established by privacy projects. Privacy should come with an option to be transparent if need be but the option should be exclusive to who is concerned.

>>50106115
Everyone cares about privacy. I think most people are just ignorant, not knowing what's going on without their consent

>>50109755
....

>>50123310
With friends like those on xmrgen, we are already rich nigger

>>50123540

>>50100534
why dont you bros update your op?

monerica.com and https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr are huge databases apparently

>>50123484
>Fiat money is seemingly private than anything going on in the chain.
It is indeed. There is little to no record on a simple fiat exchange.
>Privacy should come with an option to be transparent if need be but the option should be exclusive to who is concerned.
Monero is optionally transparent, it is more akin to digital fiat, not physical. Banks can disclose their transactions using XMR without knowing who's the receiver of said transaction.

>>50123503
>Everyone cares about privacy. I think most people are just ignorant
That's pretty much it. It's either not caring or thinking it is private (when it often is not). People are complacent to what works easily, usually not caring what comes with the uninformed consent to being exploited for monetary and tracking reasons.

moniggas rejoice. Exodus desktop now supports xmr on Trezor T.

>>50109072
stay strong bro

>>50125840
cool but closed source bro.

>>50125840
This makes me angery.

>>50118048
>Quantum resistant cryptography
Based.

I've been buying litecoin and converting it to monero. Are atomic swaps with BTC better? I have some bitcoin to play around with so I want to try it out.

>>50129167
Monero have two atomic swap implementations for XMR<>BTC swaps.
One of them, named COMIT, has released their mainnet working code last year, afaik. However, there have been some edge-case bugs with the atomic swap code, and COMIT team has stopped maintaining the code. So, I would advise not to use it.
The other XMR<>BTC atomic swap implementation is called Farcaster. And it got actually been funded through Monero Community Crowdfunding System (CCS). It is currently being actively developed and hopefully will be ready by the end of this year.

So, when it comes to BTC<>XMR atomic swaps, you better wait before using them now.
In the meantime, I would suggest orangefren dot com to catch the best conversion rate between these two coins. Keep in mind that this is not an atomic swap so you have a small counterparty risk, but it should help you for converting small sums of BTC into XMR over some weeks, months.

I need your smart orange brains.

So. I was thinking of getting a GPU, work PC, some games and a small rig for xmr and moneroocean on the GPU side.
PS. its a mini ITX build. Lian Li

I have two ones in mind, both 900$

1#
gigabyte rx 6800 OC 16GB
250W

its amd so its better for linx, open source drivers, also works well with a amd cpu for a 5% boost.

2#
KFA2 RTX 3070-Ti OC 8GB
290W
+ some kind of hybrid blower, 2 fan card, which i would prefer because I think it will generate less heat inside the case. but is consumes more energy, is LH, less VRAM and I prefer AMD.

Also Im not sure moneroocean supports AMD cards.
What do you guys think. or should I w8 or any other ideas?

>>50130739

Why not P2Pool?

>>50130763
I do P2Pool for the cpu.
you can't mine (not efficiently) xmr on gpus.
moneroocean mines eth or whatever, but pays you in xmr. solving the issue

>>50125840
balance in background

>>50130739
Moneroocean can use whatever ETH miner. I used an AMD card with it for a while.

>>50109755

>>50105277

>>50118159
>>50118048

Do you guys know how far are we to these projects?

Particularly to BTC and ETH atomic swaps and bisq fork.

>>50134389
The ETH-XMR bridge is already functional on a testnet version that can be tried out, but it will probably be several more months at least before it's released to a formal beta stage that allows "real" coins to be swapped. Currently focused on testing, bug fixes, and stability. The lady implementing it has been doing really well and posts consistent updates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNE5j4TAuCc

The Bisq fork has the "main" one Haveno which is honestly looking poor developmentally (he partially suspended production due to the price of Monero going down after accepting 750 free XMR from the community) and is managed by a control freak leftist who regularly tries to get people cancelled. There's also Penumbra Dex which is the same thing but isn't ran by an insane leftist, so I'm hoping his project is doing well.

>>50122113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDRuRpdKRgw

>>50122113
Planning my suicide, if I'm being completely honest.

>>50133657
Just my 2 cents, this picture would be much more trustworthy without the muh jews

>>50105444
Based

>>50135447
Truth must be spoken, even if it hurts your feelings.

>>50135447
reddit is that way, so-yman

>>50122113
getting more monerochan tokens is my main and possibly only motivation in life but i am not sure how much longer i can keep going like this.

>>50122113
I've started lifting.

I can't control the inflation rate or the dumb things Wall Street and Washington, London, Moscow and Beijing do, Can't stop the wars, I can study and work towards better employment, which I am doing, but there's a lot that cannot be controlled in life. However, I sure as fuck can control how much muscle mass I have and tend to my health.

>>50135447
lol. He still thinks jews don't run the world and control Hollywood/the media.

>>50130739
I have thought of doing this too, but merge seems to be getting close now and once that is the case, you'd have to find something else to mine with the GPUs, fairly expensive for such a potentially short-term proposition.

estimated but hopeful

>>50135831
>>50136059
>>50136591
That's not the point at all.
Jews were doing their fuckery since forever.
They were always doing shit like lending money or rigging things so picture that implies they started in 1913 is fucking stupid.

>>50137763
But did they control the money supply before 1913?

>>50135447
>>50136591

>>50138676
>>50138536
>>50137763
>>50137683
>>50137605
https://pastebin.com/8ubY5nNw

>>50135447
JQ wisdom is hard political currency. Like grass-fed beef liver on /fit. Like physical silver in SETF/pmg threads. Like xmr amoung shitcoins.

Anon, did you not read and spread yet The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto?
https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/crypto/cypherpunks/may-crypto-manifesto.html

>>50137763
Your interpretation of the said image is negligent. The entire point was that the jews took over the money supply using the Federal Reserve (which is not federal nor a reserve) and thus devaluing the dollar. Nixon was forced to remove the gold standard because of those tricks you mentioned and other factors related.

>>50122113

>>50136432
Has the right idea. Grow your circle of things that you can directly control, and the fight seems much more winnable

>>50139692
Meant to say >>50136496 has the right idea, but it still works.

>>50138536
There was a brief period of true economic freedom from the 1830s to 1862.

>>50105436
>Every one is free to use their privacy right anyone they see fit
The internet enables it as well. Shit it down too?

>>50105553
>If not, give me all of your cash because it's used for that too.
Ditto

>>50117789
Privacy. However, the PriFi seems to be a growing industry considering the number of privacy solutions coming up, especially on the chain and built on L1. Good thing for DeFi users in general

>>50117986
No space for altcoins. Not even ETH

>>50123310
Very soon

>>50123408
>Although, it seems more secure when trading privately with trust less smart contract privacy protocols on the chain.
R A I L G U N

>>50124812
The option to disclose transactions should be limited to wallet owners and them only. This might become important if regulations actually becomes a thing

>>50135324
There is a way you can make it fast

>>50124854
Good thing then that there are many easy privacy based systems available on the chain now

>>50140701
That's not how it works, do you disclose what you have in your physical wallet? No.

>>50140739
Yes, it is a good thing. Still does not guarantee others will flock to it, as I said there needs to be a major catalyst - either continuous or immediate.

>>50137683

Slowly but surely.

orange woman good

>>50136496
Based and self improvement pilled.
Just keep on stacking and trying to be your best self for monero chan.
WAGMI

>>50145538
dude, what is up with her fucking chin?

>>50145553
Well, they didn't design bitcoin's logo with a face in mind.

>>50123503
It's high time people start taking their privacy seriously. Especially now that one has right over who view their data with projects like Secret Network.

>>50139707
Thanks to Andrew Jackson
bankters are a:
>den of vipers

>>50146462
>and thieves

>>50146462
>>50146493
God bless us with another Andy J

>>50140441
The number of privacy solutions is on the rise but one good one I can fix my eyes on is Secret Network. I see there are really focused on solving full anonymity in the blockchain.

Happy freedom day to all Burgers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8y4uuslvBo

>>50147578
HNNNNNNNNGGG

>>50147627
Come home Monero man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVa8YAAG6u8

There can be only one.

Not as slaves but as free men our money we'll give!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzU6LA7TTrY

>>50100534
>the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero

I don't think you geniuses know what an asymptote is, as the curve never reaches zero, the asymptote will not be in fact zero.

>a line that continually approaches a given curve but does not meet it at any finite distance

Furthermore a rate of inflation requires annualization. E.g.. The equation is the total supply divided by the difference between the supply at the calendar year beginning and end, which would be the number of blocks in a year times the amount of the block reward.

Which is not zero, and not asymptotically, zero.

>>50150323
>1pbtid
It's all so tiresome.

>>50141674
There is already a catalyst on Secret network that's making developers look into the project. Monero need to be more flexible and emulate what other privacy projects are doing like introduction of privacy features for NFTs.

>>50150323
>Go to zero
R e t a r d

>>50148880

I gotta say, your pathetic attempts to make Zcash™ relevant are very amusing.

>>50150565
>Monero need to be more flexible and emulate what other privacy projects are doing like introduction of privacy features for NFTs.

>>50150587
It's going under 50.
Also kek at that meme.

They come in here literally every thread trying to shill their shitcoin to the much more popular and influential monero crowd.

>>50150565
You fags understand nothing about privacy

Happy 4th XMR Chads!

>>50133398
Does this mean anything or is it just a way of saying "monero good"

Not that I disagree

>>50151443
Yes

>>50150323
>asymptotically go to zero

Happy independence day, brothers

>be me
>be married
>wife shows me some comments
>read comments on jewbook from NPC's being tired of economical hardships
>NPC's getting raped by dictator Trudeau for taking part in the trucker protests
>NPC's bank accounts seized and locked
>ask the NPC's if they're interested in protecting their savings in unseizable / untreaceable Monero
>get shit ton of questions
>me, answering them (hours of hard work, believe me LOL)
>about 40+ NPC's install Monero GUI and exchange CAD, EUR and USD to XMR in various amounts unknown to me
>NPC's turning Monero chads
>two women offering their homemade embrodery stuff for Monero
>got it sold next day
>both women happy as fuck, when they realize no jewish banking system involved in the financial transaction and that it's untreaceable.
>other NPC's read this
>leading to more people asking questions
>after six days of replies and support, i guess i have done a good job.

Conclusion:
When people suffer, they are open to concepts that solve their problems.
And it was not even my jewbook account, since i don't have one.
My wife just showed these comments to me and i started turning an entire group of people into Monero chads.

Do i deserve a fucking beer now?

>>50153584
based and spreading the monero pill

>>50153584
>Do i deserve a fucking beer now?
Yes, yes you do anon. Thank you for your service 100% unironically.

>>50152994
>Happy independence day, brothers

>>50153584
Brother you deserve the entire pack of beers! Thank you for making the word a better place, free from financial control.

>>50153584
Almost too based to believe but
>married
Glowies aren't married and Feds don't talk to their wives.
Well done fren

>>50153662
>>50153700
>>50153809
>>50153820
Thank you guys, thank you.
The facebookers aren't even tech related people. It was in a closed knitting and embrodery group where they discussed politics, the hardships they face and other stuff.
They are not even tech related in the slightest.
I hope they will continue using Monero.
But what is really needed are shops willing to sell stuff for Monero.
My wife said, she know some of them personally, selling knitting and embrodery material to customers and she want's to talk to them to offer Monero as one of the payment options.
The good thing is, that they are widely spread. Some are located in Moldova, Romania, Ukrie, Canada, USA, Germany and even France and Sweden.
People earlier complained about transaction fees via Wire or Paypal and bak transfer due toe xchange rates and fees.
Monero could solve all these problems in one wipe.

If me and my wife get this thing to work, memeing about knitting and basketweaving will be a thing of the past. LOL
I tried it with bike shops like six month ago, but they all rejected the idea of selling in Monero due to large price variations of the Monero and other Cryptos.

>>50153584
You are doing god's work, anon.

Keep it up

>>50153584
>Do i deserve a fucking beer now?
cheers to all those people you orange-pilled!

>>50153584
Based anon.
I tried to red pill two people with various results.
One refused cause "experts" think btc/eth is better investment and he trusts experts(dev btw).
The other is gold stacking boomer that hates the government so that was pretty easy.
Too bad he bought @400

>>50154502
>They are not even tech related in the slightest.
One reason Monero is so good is due to its (private) ease of use. Just like a computer or a smartphone, very few people have the knowledge of how they fully work, yet it's still used because it's easy.

>Some are located in Moldova, Romania, Ukrie, Canada, USA, Germany and even France and Sweden.
If/when you convince them, make sure their businesses are listed on the multiple websites from the circular economy such as monerica or acceptedhere. This'll make them have more exposure, therefore more customers.

>>50154599
>>50154618
>>50154776
Thanks.

Yes, convincing bullion stackers is easy as fuck, since they normally don't trust the goberment and the jewed up money system we have.
I don't know if this idea is a good one, but here in my area, we have some restaurants, and they all have in common that food prices are exploding while customers are unwilling to spend ever growing prices.
Normally, it's like that:
Restaurants and food stores need to throw away food that's been too old and gone bad.
What if we try to get food stores and restaurants to sell in Monero and declare these meals and products as bad and thrown away?
Zero taxation for them and cryptos direcly into their wallets.
Everyone wants to survive the economical crisis we are in right now and this would be a great opportunity to spread Monero, since it's untraceable.
My main goal is to spread the use of Monero as wide as i can.
Do you guys think restaurants and smaller food stores are on it?
I mean, goberment is taxing the shit out of small business owners. Something has to be done.

>>50155234
>If/when you convince them, make sure their businesses are listed on the multiple websites from the circular economy such as monerica or acceptedhere. This'll make them have more exposure, therefore more customers.
Yes, we are on it. I hope we get some results in the next weeks.
I'm planning to talk to local restaurants and food stores also.
In some of them i am a regular customer, so they know me already.

>>50152994
Where in Wisconsin do you live anon?

If any of you frens need some translations or professional logos, let me know. I’m offering them in return for xmr

>>50156420

>>50155347
>Yes, we are on it. I hope we get some results in the next weeks.
>I'm planning to talk to local restaurants and food stores also.
>In some of them i am a regular customer, so they know me already.
Absolutely fantastic, Monero is unstoppable.

>>50157236
Well, i do my very best to spread Moneor use as much as i can.
My wife is in constant contact with the people i got into using Monero.
So we think it's lasting, but we will see.
My guess is that the more we get ridden by inflation of FIAT currencies, the more open people will be to alternatives.
As of tomorrow, i will talk to my trusted Pizza-man. Let's see what he has to say.

>>50156775
If you have Telegram,
search for
>Monero Jobs & Proposals - Work for XMR

>>50155307
>Restaurants and food stores need to throw away food that's been too old and gone bad.
>What if we try to get food stores and restaurants to sell in Monero and declare these meals and products as bad and thrown away?

This reminds me of a tik tok video posted the other day. Some roastie was complaining about the amount of donuts she had to throw out every night at dunkin; literally serveral garbage cans full. Regulations won't let them sell it or even give it away to the homeless last i checked.
If said roastie were to start selling donuts for monero at a discount, i doubt even the guys at corporate would notice. I could be wrong about how well they keep track of what's being thrown away though

>>50152994
Wow anon you're pretty cute

>>50153584
What onramp did you two have them using?

Monero is kind of a shitty investment, it’s price has stayed the same for half a decade now

>>50159916
Go buy more dog coins if you want to gamble

>>50159916
You are absolutely correct. Monero is hidden money, not a speculative asset.

>>50159916

Monero is a privacy tool, dipshit.

New wownerochan.
Donate to Monerochan.art!!!

Without Monero I am lost...
Too bad it's so fucking hard to acquire.

>>50162669
What are they even buying with it

>>50163580
I think they might be mining it

>>50158107
Yes, imagine selling donuts for Monero and officially listing them as "thrown away"
Easy task.
In times hwere inflation and taxation is looting you, this is sort of self defense.

>>50159655
I don't understand your question.

>>50147578
Happy freedom day to you too anon

>>50163684
And sell it to whom?
Can’t come up with a usecase desu

>>50164404
>And sell it to whom?
You give it to field agents anon.

>>50163474

This video is more relevant than ever.
https://youtu.be/CPBJgpK0Ulc

>>50161793
>>50161901
lul

>>50164129
46%? We gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookey numbers.

>>50166600
that would mean to arm the wrong people

>>50166626
Every American citizen should own at least 3 guns.

>>50166795
Are you sure you wanna see niggers and spics being armed?
This sounds like a bad idea.

>>50167382
nog and spic streetrash already have guns and are killing eachother. I'm talking about normal law abiding citizens. Chances are that after everybody else arms up, the street trash would get killed off even faster since all of thier non-gang targets would start shooting back.

>>50167709
I see it like that:
Those law abiding citizens, who want to have a gun, already own one or more.
Those that are against them, because of liberal morality gibberish, will refuse to own one. And that's also the group of people who refuses to see that packs of niggers will eventually kill them.
Those, that aren't allowed to own guns are the braindamaged and criminals.

In my opinion, everyone who should have a gun already has one. plus the criminals.
Why arming leftists if they don't even want to own guns?
The coming SHTF will wipe them out and so will their liberal ideas die with them. Ideas that brought western societies on their knees.

>>50110805
That is not the definition of unsustainablity

>>50117789
Enabling anonymity. Although we need more on-chain strategies to stay hidden when interacting with smart contracts.

>>50117874
I don't see how it should anyway

>>50117874
Is that not the point? If you maintain a private balance, how would you even tied to your bank to start with?

>>50117986
Wondering why stocks didn't the highest percentage. Isn't stability a factor here

>>50118078
Depends on what you are intending to buy

>>50123437
Looks like shielding is the new word when you keep your wallet balance off public view

>>50124812
What do you think about mixers in that case? I've seen explanations describing how they are less secure compared to L1 smart contract protocol.

>Monero is optionally transparent
Is it really? Can users generate a verifiable report of their transactions without complications

>>50129167
Why not directly?

>>50169215
I'm not a big fan of stocks due to their custodial nature. You own stocks to about the same extent you own Bitcoin held on an exchange. If bearer instruments became a thing again I would be more willing to suggest them.

>>50140399
Indeed. Privacy is an option, but cryptocurrency has made it a responsibility.

>>50169574
Right. Zero tolerance for custodial risks. I guess you're all for decentralisation

>>50169626
>Right. Zero tolerance for custodial risks. I guess you're all for decentralisation
I'm not a hardliner on it no, but I think self-custody is generally superior to trust-based systems considering how regularly people get screwed over.


It's like when FDR made an executive order banning the private possession of gold bullion, it was surprisingly easy to enforce against most people because so many people were storing it custodially in banks. It's one of the problems of these types of systems where the dangers don't become apparent until after it's too late. In the case of stocks it defies conventional wisdom (because 99.9% of people assume that it's functionally zero risk) but I wouldn't be confident enough in that assumption to have a huge percent of my net worth in someone else's hands.

When we will be finally able to attach monero addresses to our posts so we can tip each other for tasteful shitposting? Kinda like pic related

>>50169914
I cannot tell you how many random shitposts I would piss away monero on.

I love this idea.

>>50169495
>What do you think about mixers in that case?
Mixers try to mitigate censorship and tracking of funds, but it ultimately fails to do its job. The problem is a the protocol level, if it is not private, any attempt of "obfuscation" is delaying the inevitable. Therefore, mixers are useless.
There are also mixers that censor transactions from tainted coins in order to be compliant. This is not what crypto is supposed to be.

>Is it really? Can users generate a verifiable report of their transactions without complications
Yes. A view key can be used to reveal all transactions for an account. This means that companies could still be audited, charities could make their accounts publicly visible, and parents could see what their kids are spending the money on. Additionally, details of a transaction can be revealed via a similar mechanism on a per-transaction basis.

>>50169914
They would prolly ban anyone doing it
Rulez say no e-begging and no loitering.

>>50164404
norks have front operations in places like Macau where they can use exchanges to get hard currency. They mine as they do have coal reserves, and are a sanctioned country. I believe they were at one time mining BTC, and were discovered, with their BTC wallets sanctioned.

>>50169782
Based.
Indeed, people get screwed over a lot when trust less systems are ignored.

>>50170149
besides, mixers are generally expensive to use, but saying they are useless. Isn't that an exagerration? because I've been a lot of activity on Tornado Cash lately

> A view key can be used to reveal all transactions for an account.
Sounds similar to the mechanism through which railgun does it.

>>50105512
Correct. Usury is unnatural in every way, like taxes.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it, XMR is a doomed crime coin.

>>50171004
>Tornado Cash
It has sanctioned and blacklisted addresses repeatedly. Proof:
https://decrypt.co/97984/ethereum-privacy-tool-tornado-cash-uses-chainalysis-block-sanctioned-wallets
Mixers are useless because they do not solve inherent issues with the protocol. The only reason they exist is due to the pseudonymous nature of the vast majority of crypto. Due to this, every single coin can be traced to its point of origin, thus meaning you have no privacy. Any person can see how much you own and where you spend it. This creates more problems than it can solve. Mixers try to achieve privacy, but since everything is public it ultimately fails to do so.

>Sounds similar to the mechanism through which railgun does it.
Don't know enough about railgun to opine. I do know that it uses zk-SNARKs which means it is a trusted set-up. That is enough for me to not use it.

>>50171285

Trusted setup is history. You no longer have any excuses to keep using Monero.

>>50171271
>XMR is a doomed crime coin.

As opposed to what, a govt-sanctioned compliance coin?

>>50171367
>Trusted setup is history. You no longer have any excuses to keep using Monero.

lol getting rid of the trusted setup doesn't change the fact that zk-SNARKs is still unproven experimental tech that requires warning labels. You seriously expect people to put their money into something that unpredictable?

Nice try but ZEC is DOA, fella.

>>50171435

Compliance is essential for mass adoption, retard.

>>50171516

Its an acceptable risk, literal scientists are working on ZKPs.

>>50171587
>Compliance is essential for mass adoption
Masses are compliant to make the NWO possible.

Monero stands for economical freedom.

>>50171587
>Compliance is essential for mass adoption, retard.

Behold the slave mentality of the Z-Cuck. You faggots can't wait to bend the knee to authority and suck as much regulator cock as possible.

Mass adoption is a meme anyway, CBDCs will be made mandatory at crypto's expense. Luckily, XMR already has an established foothold in the underground economy. Zcash, on the other hand, has a CEO that openly brags about how criminals refuse to touch his "socially responsible" spycoin, it will NEVER be trusted.

>>50171625
>Its an acceptable risk, literal scientists are working on ZKPs.

You could have Albert fucking Einstein himself working on ZKP, it still doesn't mean there isn't a fatal flaw lurking somewhere in all that moon math. This is precisely why it typically takes 10-20 years worth of peer review and beta-testing for novel cryptography to be considered safe enough for mainstream applications.

There are no short-cuts when potentially trillions of dollars are on the line.

>>50171847

Monero has weaker privacy and is likely a honeypot.

>>50172284
>meme obviously made by a brown person
kek

>>50172342

Problem?

>>50172284

Monero has more RELIABLE privacy and legit honeypots don't tend to be difficult to access.

And now you know why ZEC is available on Coinbase, Gemini, etc, while XMR isn't.

>>50172388

Checked and lol, figures.

>>50172388
>mental outlaw is a zcash tranny
wtf

Take cover the Ztrannies are back.

>>50172501

he ain't that dark

>>50172445

Monero has been cracked by Ciphertrace and can be traced for $16K a pop.

Zcash has optional privacy which gives it the advantage over XMR: full access to all exchanges.

>>50172632
>Monero has been cracked by Ciphertrace

lol


>and can be traced for $16K a pop.

holy shit, this is comedy gold! So riddle me this, genius: why not invest $16K to collect the $675K IRS bounty?


>Zcash has optional privacy

That right there is enough to disqualify ZEC as a serious contender.


>which gives it the advantage over XMR: full access to all exchanges.

You lot really love selling out, huh?

ayo I was swingin this heckin privacy bear coin but the btc ratio just keeps going up

when go back down??

>>50172779

Sneed

>>50172812
>>when go back down??

Next Thursday

>>50172855
>Sneed

Trannies first.

>>50161793
Nice

Get in while its still underpriced

Why aren't there any DEXs that accept gift cards (Amazon, Spotify, Steam, etc) for Monero? You can buy gift cards with Monero, so you'd think it could work the other way 'round too.

It would be really nice too because then you could anonymously and easily get non-KYC Monero without having to mail people cash in an envelope. You could just send the code and get your XMR.

>>50173082
Are you guys secretly monerochads who are trying to keep the thread bumped or should I just report you Ztrannies for off-topic posting?

>>50173082
That's a man.

>>50173113

How would that technically work?

>>50173335
It would work in the same way coincards works but in reverse

>>50173591

Yeah, but DEXs work with blockchains.

>>50172284
>>50172632

>>50173748

kek

>>50172388
Yes. it's a room temperature IQ meme, like all ztrash™ "memes".

>>50172284
>Monero
>weak privacy
>honeypot
Chose one retard
Sure, we all gonna leave Monero for Botnet Z-Cash.
Look dude, if you want to shitpost, don't make it too obvious next time.

BTW, how's the Z-Cash thread doing?

>>50173140

Zcash is a privacy coin so its still on-topic.

>>50175184

Normie-friendly memes get more traction

>>50176273

lol wtf is that shit supposed to be?

>>50176273
See, dumb cultish memes. You get no traction, every thread you make is deleted within the next 3 hours.

>Ztroons
>In MY monero thread

>>50100616
It looks weird when you make a coin shilling site and after a few scrolls it's all about using it for illegal stuff. If someone stumbled upon this site they'd get an impression (or reinforce existing) that cryptocurrency bad.

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What happened to XMR radio? Used to be a 24 hour stream