/biz/ - Business & Finance

DeSantis will be good for the markets right

why are black people genetically subhuman IQ wise?

Imagine thinking we rally next week

I'm buying puts Tuesday. No way the pump lasts.

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>>50105039
No doubt. He never shut down Florida over the China flu.

I was upset to discover that semis are decoupled from broader tech today. I was especially upset to discover that SQQQ and AMD can go red at the same time

we've been telling them to go back to /pol/ for years now and they finally listened

/biz/ is healing

>>50105072
Based, you guys got any room left over there?

>>50105039
We will until earnings, the fed has been lying about QT, and everyone wants the 2nd half to be better than the first, no one wants to acknowledge that everything is fundamentally fucked. I expect a fed pivot at this point before we drive the economy off a cliff by Q4

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>>50105084
Finally. Besides we all know the back up board is /trash/.

Is it worth holding semis through all of this? Two years of gains have entirely retraced at this point. Not sure if just dump them and come back later or DCA

>>50105039
Can’t stop the wop

>>50105149
Just holding, no. As a piece of a larger portfolio you regularly contribute to, sure.

>>50105026
His wife is hot as hell wtf didn't expect this

do you guys think SPY bounced of its previous low today or do you think this is just yet another dead cat until we gap down again like the last few times?

>>50105185
Oh yea she's beautiful. DeSantis is a chad that gained a bit of weight after taking office as governor lol.

>>50105191
Biden is president bro

>>50105191
Pumped for holiday same as with black day.

>>50105026
I will not yield this land

Are we really going to melt up next week? Is it true what the Mumus are saying?

>>50105026
all these potential candidates are disappointing, tired of these midwit boomers

>>50105149
Just buy QQQ

>>50105191
Deadcat bounce, recession happens when GDP shows 2 quarters in a row of negative growth
Build up all the cash you can

>>50105220
When you are fighting for the suburban white woman vote, you are only going to get certain kinds of candidates

>>50105149
>>50105241
Yeah I’m gonna start nibbling soon.

>>50105220
How does he disappoint you? I watched an interview with him yesterday and there was a moment in which he was straight talking shit. It was extremely uncomfortable because there’s no need at all for him to do that. He was saying something about how in California, he believes, they have something like post birth abortion. Someone explain this slang to me

>GDPNOW forecast revised down to -2.1% from -1.0%

>Inflation Nowcasting June 2022 8.67%

>>50105069
SPY IS ONLY UP 1%

uhhh guys??
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>>50105297
He's a charismaless dipshit that adopted all of Trump's mannerisms because he realized pretending to be him and throwing red meat to evangelical shitheads will get him power.

>>50105297
>post birth abortion
In more civilized areas we call that "gang violence".

Small caps

and happy 4th of July

>>50105320
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i think an /smg/ on /pol/ would actually be popular. might even get some non-retards in the thread, but we would also be at-risk of bbc-posting and other gay shit because its not a blue board

in other news, why are semi-conductors getting hit? i dont hold SOXL but its weird that they are the only red today

>>50105218
Sadly mumus have been wrong a lot this year. I just wanna be bullish again :(

>>50105039
yes, hes like trump

>>50105385
that risk is present here anyways, so there's no downside

Is my OIL gonna be okay or did i buy right before the recession is confirmed

>>50105026
>that botox face with fake teeth
why do americans look like caricatures of real people

>>50105385
MU got downgraded and reduced guidance. Its over

>>50105320
>>50105326
Recession b4 EOM

If janny just let a handful of shitposts go by on the day the anti whore measure was passed then there would be no issues right now

>>50105084
at last there is peace

desu can't take much more of this nigger Biden, bros. Shit is getting painful

Bought AAPL puts

>>50105480
Guh!

>>50105220
Politicians are basically the worst type of people.
The only reasons they get in to politics are because they're chasing money and power or they're idealists, and the only functional difference between those is that when the idealists lie to you they believe they're doing you a favor.

I sold my oil today. Right call? I think it dips a bit and then will pump more later

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Meh, if everyone's going to pol then I guess I'm out. That semen slurping board just isn't for me. Honestly, I kind of wish I'd died in a car crash rather than find this general, anyway. I'd have left behind a lot more money... I lost more today. June was my worst month yet. See you 'round guys...

>gay pron poster finally fucked off back to pol
Free at last. Anyways, I predict Tuesday will open green and then proceed to be a dump day. Following weeks will be bearish if earnings are bad. Especially bearish if the GDP is negative.

>Cielo "Turn your money into dreams of diesel" waste solutions now back to its pre-PnD price
>Pajeethorse "Trust the plan, 2 more months" Silver near all time lows
And still SOXL has obliterated more /smg/ money than all else combined

>>50105385
Crypto crashed and startups aren't getting any more cheap cheap debt to buy copious amounts of hardware with, and consumers are squeezed?

Been reading Tom O’Neil’s Chaos

>>50105533
>/pol/ on investing
>"Jews bad.."
>"Investing Jewish.."
>"Therefore money bad.."
>"I'll stay poor and beat those Jews!"
Yea, I'll pass

>>50105544
good riddance faggot
>>50105552
have fun in your 3 person threads.

>>50105220
Yeah I don't know, I'm no longer a retarded teenager who cares about le important social issues so all I really care about is how I am doing financially at any particular moment and how I view the Government's actions affecting me. That beings said, when Dermpf was President, people cried seethed and screeched but I was richer than I've ever been in my life and we were not funding a multi-billion dollar proxy war with a nuclear power in Eastern Europe

I see a lot of cope posted about these points and I expect some cope replies, but those are just facts and they can't be changed. The absolute worst thing in the Drrrruumpfftt!!! presidency was COVID and anyone with half a brain knew that was a nothingburger from the start.

>>50105614
enjoy your ban

>>50105480
same, I don't know whether to feel good or not that I'm on the same side as Burry.

>>50105614
>I'm le above it all
No one cares nigger

>>50105636
what did I write that could possibly warrant a ban

>>50105614
>I was richer than I've ever been in my life and we were not funding a multi-billion dollar proxy war with a nuclear power in Eastern Europe
>what is Syria?

>>50105656
politics is off topic.

>>50105561
>And still SOXL has obliterated more /smg/ money than all else combined
I'm so glad I ignored that piece of shit

>>50105666
>Satan arrives
Typical shit. Keep it on topic. Short SIGA. Go to /pol/ /smg/ to learn when to short oil.

>>50105666
it's politics in relation to the stock market/economy though, surely that's related.

>>50105654
not what I wrote at all

>>50105657
oh yeah, forgot Syria is in Eastern Europe. Very much the same thing. Are you a fucking retard?

>>50105703
nope. no politics chud.

>>50105614
>The absolute worst thing in the Drrrruumpfftt!!! presidency was COVID and anyone with half a brain knew that was a nothingburger from the start.
>forgets niggers burning down cities, looting, carjacking, killing and beating up innocent people
Something something SOXL, this IS stock related.

>>50105656
There's a lot of salty posters about bans from over zealous Janny. They are correct about the over the top moderation but somehow a lot of them think it's a good thing that one of them keeps coming back posting cocks all day in rebellion. Can't figure that bit out since it just made things worse then ever..

Do you guys like my soup?

>>50105666
Business and politics are intertwined. You've been staring at charts so long you forgot that business is people talking to other people.

WEATbros

>>50105730
no shit sherlock. I'm just letting you know that the Jannie is banning everyone for anything off topic. fucking Troon Jannie can suck a bullet

>>50105703
Syria isn’t but Russia, the nuclear power in Eastern Europe, is in Eastern Europe. Either way it cost billions of dollars.

>>50105750
>they believed there would be muh famine
>fucking stupid ass wheat
lmao, lol even

>>50105729
Looks good, I’m grilling brats again to celebrate my -$9000 June

>>50105750
I‘m down 17% on it

Bulls always swear the next week will melt up

Well after the massive crash this week they might get a relief pump, but not much more than that

I wouldn't hold for long next week

>>50105750
>>50105806
You realise it could be an eternal bag right? May never see those prices for wheat again without some major event. Massive drought, crop failure, solar flare, alien wheat harvesting invasion etc

i like stocks

Theta gang, how are we holding up? Get assigned on any puts?

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>>50105026
honestly I cant wait to have a hot first lady again.
made me feel good when Melania would meet with whatever prime minster's wife and absolutely mog them

This was good for the markets also, instilled American confidence

>>50105858
I haven't had the money to sell puts since like March. None of my calls got called, unsurprisingly.

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kek

all that is left here are jannies huh? kek

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>>50105782
No famine but food shortages like the ones in early 2020 are very likely
>>50105869
For me it was Laura Bush

Should I sell META? I’m down about $3,000 already and I don’t see it recovering anytime soon. There’s now a hiring freeze and the metaverse will never take off. I’m thinking of taking the loss and just putting it into ATVI for the 20% return.

I believe I will be buying some OKTA next week

>>50105850
i guess i do now

GREEN JULY

lol

the gdpnow forcast going from +.3% to -2% this week for q2 is incredibly fucking concerning holy shit

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Made it 280 posts with 84 posters, very comfy thread ngl.

>>50105986
did you see their most recent news headline today?
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/01/meta-slashes-hiring-plans-girds-for-fierce-headwinds.html
>Meta slashes hiring plans, girds for ‘fierce’ headwinds
>Facebook-owner Meta has cut plans to hire engineers by at least 30% this year, CEO Mark Zuckerberg told employees on Thursday, as he warned them to brace for a deep economic downturn.
I saw this being covered across a lot of financial media
facebook relies very heavily on political advertising, with midterms coming up + increased tension there may be more spending than is being accounted for

>>50106061
all of or worst posters seem to have left it seems. good riddance

where the fuck is David Soxl

>>50106021
Nah.

MP the next pandemic.
Not only is it starting to infect kids and normal people, but it has a huge gay base where it can mutate and spread limitlessly, with it becoming more contagious over time.
Beyond that, the new strain is completely overtaking Africa, with deaths outside of its region stacking into the hundreds. It will stay there forever and constantly leak out.
This isn’t Covid. It is extremely painful and causes babies to die and kids to go into week long comas.

The gay sex thing is a midwit filter. You can buy SIGA, which has close ties to Pfizer and Bill Gates, or you can oy vey when your market crashes again.

See, that's why /pol/ sucks now, they delete any meaningful discussion that's slightly not politics related

Uhhhh /smg/ bros, the thread just got deleted from /pol/. Is there really no place for us? Where the fuck can we post?

(((THEY))) DELETED IT
at least we have confirmation now to nuke leaf fags

>>50106085
Who could have thought that investing in video game hardware used to mine magic internet money at 3x leverage was a bad idea?

>>50106041
2 red GDP reports = recession
Ignore Yellen ans Powell when they try to cope and say it's not a recession

>>50106077
>all of or worst posters seem to have left it seems. good riddance

>>50106066
Bruh meta is a dying company. They’re failing to adapt and lost their moat.

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>>50106101
/b/ maybe? or /vg/ since technically the stock market is a gatcha game

>>50106101
/trash/

>>50106096
Oh you just don’t know the /pol/ rules. You have to write
>and what are the political implications
In the title and you can post literally anything you want. Watch, type that into the search on /pol/ right now.

>>50106066
Yeah that’s why I’m asking. I had read the article. META is easily my biggest regret. I think I’ll just take the loss and sell on Tuesday. Wall Street fucking hates the company, too. Any more bad press and it could tank another 20% easily.

>>50105084
Thank the fucking lord

>>50106110
if everyone thinks this, as they do, it can still be underpriced relative to it's value
if everyone thinks it's a pile of dogshit (which it is) it can still be underpriced
>>50106138
I personally would not be invested in META right now solely because there are better opportunities for capital in the market right now - money is extremely valuable right now, to have it tied up in something that you don't have very high confidence in makes no sense just in opportunity cost alone

>>50105908
What ticker is that?

HNST

Is it a good short term investment?

>>50106111
Trips of truth. Thank you based piper bro

>>50105850
Won’t the issues with lack of fertilizers and a weak Ukrainian harvest effect this years harvest? Therefore wheat prices rise in the fall? Does the market really think they priced all that in already?

>>50106111
How is that off topic for /pol/ ffs?

I AM BUYING SOXL AT $7.50

>>50105858
I've got a long diagonal put on apple, and I'm down about 1k

>>50106111
>404
hahahahha

>>50106085
SOXL will be 100 dollars soon

>>50106085
It's gonna get a lot worse, AMD is gonna trade in the single digits by the time it bottoms.

>>50106231
*$3.50, it gets liquidated by direxion at $1.00 and you get a fair value of $0.50

>>50106265
>it gets liquidated
They just reverse split SOXS a little bit ago

Stop talking about soxl

>>50106110
>>50106161
I can definitely see atleast one big tech company getting btfo Lehman Brothers style and causing panic

>>50106285
I'm semi-joking.

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This is how you make an /smg/ thread.

>>50106087
are you trading based on this? it seems to line up

>>50106087
So bottom in September and then moon after that to all time highs?

>>50106255
Hahaha no way

Boomers are getting recked.

>>50105026
Please keep all SOXL discussion on /biz/. Thanks!

Can you guys stop being sexist and racist for like a minute please? It’s incredibly rude l.

>>50106311
Maybe not back to ATHs, but that's essentially what the market thinks too. People think JPOW will pivot in the fall.

>>50106336
how did the other half of those years go?

>>50106336
CharlieBilello is a good account

>>50106087
Crab july is pretty good too.

>>50106336
Lmao. This crash is going to make the dot com bubble and the 2008 crash look like a fucking joke.

>>50106301
>are you trading based on this?
Somewhat, yeah. I've been looking at what happens around quad witching days but the opposite of what I expected happened in June. I thought it would slowly creep upwards until quad witching and then fade during the following week.

>>50106311
I think there will be more hopium after the election.

>>50106320
you were warned.

>>50106336

>/pol/ thread deleted
>/smg/ immediately flooded with doomposting

>>50106386
I’m slowly transitioning out of it on rips, don’t worry. Still got fucked though

>>50106336
We got nowhere to go but up!

>>50106336
When do old fuckers look at their retirement again? I know there is generally a period where they all check it out. How bad is the old fucker crash going to be?

>>50104237
>PoemAnon
Woah...

>>50104404
>>50104524
>Dick and asshole posters is Boeing anon, he's my friend and he was only doing what was necessary to punish the jannies. Lewd pictures make weak jannies, weak jannies make strong threads, strong threads lead to massive gains.
It punishes everyone, anon.

>>50105498
I really like this pasta.

>>50105149
>Is it worth holding semis through all of this?
Yes, just not SOXL. Buy INTC and AMD and NVDA directly.

>>50106041
I am pleased to have bought SRTY.

>>50106300
Checked and WTF?

So Joe Brandon’s poll numbers just keep dropping. Will he ever deliver on his promise to return everything back to normal or will republicans just keep dividing the country?

$24m in SPX calls went in right before the bell

Someone’s bullish

>bobos still think the bottom isn't in
>bobos still think the fed won't pivot to stop total economic collapse
>bobos still bagholding inverse ETFs and puts into the mouth of the melt up

wagies must go back to the office to keep their jobs

buy OKTA

>>50106467
Based time traveler from March poster

Will Joe Brandon be able to deliver if his promise to return the country back to normal or will republicans keep making everything worse?

My Jewish wife told me to buy the dip, should I trust her?

my minoxidil came in the mail today, what am I in for self conscious balding bros?

>>50106444
>How bad is the old fucker crash going to be?
Boomers are literally the largest cohort in the US, I think a little ahead of Millenials and own most generational wealth. Them retiring en masse would be a disaster.

>>50106336
>2nd one is 2008
>this is what happened the 2nd half of 2008

OH N-

>>50106447
>>PoemAnon
>Woah...
?

>>50106575
>what am I in for self conscious balding bros
A complete loss of you hair, lmao.

>>50106492
Homebuilder stocks pumping today because the big boys know. We're going to pump until the fed can't save us anymore

>>50106614
I was recommended it by my family and I didn't even tell them I was bothered by my hair thinning :(. They just said, hey, you know you can get rogaine over the counter now right?

>>50105026
Desantis's kids are kinda ugly ngl

>>50106546
Sure why not

>>50106290
I hope it's Netflix

>>50106467
>bobos still think the fed won't pivot to stop total economic collapse
If they pivot it will only accelerate the collapse pretty soon rising prices due to inflation is going to price people out of everything except food, utilities, and gas. This causes the chain reaction of people not paying their loans. It's literally what caused the 3 years of recession that took place after the dotcom crash. I kind of hope they do just print money until they break the printers because it will force the government to actually step in and force them to stop.

>>50106594
>>50106585
You know how I know we are no where near a bottom. The normie sphere is in total denial still. They are all talking big but no one has been shaken enough to cause a bottom. Our current "issue" is dip slurpers had been hoarding money for this exact event. Now it is just a crabbing tug of war until the slurps run out of money and the shorts and bears run this shit into the ground.

>>50106630
Your family is just tired of you embarrassing them with your thinning hair line. As a chad with a head full of hair they have my respect for being ashamed of your spotty scalp.

>>50106677
What will stepping in look like?

>>50106692
Jim Brandon shitting himself on live TV and then smearing it all over his body to intimidate Jerome Powell

>>50106458
It could be bobo shorting shares or calls and buying SPY calls to hedge.

>>50106677
>no one has been shaken enough to cause a bottom
There is no investor alive that has seen sentiment as low as it is right now, what do you mean?

Kek, I just learned about the Lunk Alarm at planet fitness

>>50106740
did they catch you lunkin?

>>50106575
At some point you just gotta settle for going bald. Unless you want to fork out the cash for those hair transplant deals. IMO, my hair, fuck it, I'd rather save the money. Wear a hat in summer to keep your head from frying and go on with life. Could be worse things you know; dude with tats all over his body draws more attention than some plain bald dude does.. Especially as the tatted up dude ages..

>>50106677
inflation is supply based atm, this liquidity drain and dancing so close to economic collapse has done fuck all. We'd be better off letting the liquidity flow and working ourselves out of this supply mess

>>50106740
I set it off one time by accident. I was so proud.

>>50106664
They're already getting btfo tbf

>>50106575
use a microneedle over your balding areas, its stimulates hair growth

also buy oil

how can the fed not pivot into recession? All they have to do is say they are pausing hikes and the market will rally 10%. Imagine holding shorts the day it happens

>>50105385

Biden is finally building semiconductor plants in America now that we have a semiconductor glut

>>50106737
Nobody wants to buy, but the actual selling panic isn't there yet.
Reddit is riding their basedtech bags to 0.
Boomers are just waiting it out because they assume they'll live long enough for it to come back.

>>50106800
>and the market will rally 10%
And then plummet the next day LOL

>>50106800
they did say that their target rate is a neutral rate of 2.5% which they will hit if they do a 75bps this meeting. so there is a chance they could pause after that if the CPI isn't too brutal again.

some of the estimates seem to think cpi is plateauing too so there is that as well

>>50106806
>Not having Chinks do it for 2/hr
I'm actually shocked

>>50106800
Hyperinflation, revolutions arent kind to those that cause them

>>50106788
Already in oil companies, 1000 shares XOM, 1000 shares OXY

>>50105026

Ron "I'm gonna go to Israel to sign a bill banning criticism of Israel of Florida college campuses" DeShabbosGoy

>>50106800
its hard to say, bond yields are already going down because theyre pricing in recession risk/slowing growth. the problem is, what if we get high inflation thats persistent and negative growth?

>>50106740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfN5_Hq36g

back when it was good

>>50105385
lol?

>>50106829
How would adding 75bps make a natural rate of 2.5% with inflation so high?

>>50106737
Sentiment is low but the market doesn't match the sentiment. The crash has been rather orderly. The FED hasn't even seriously started QT they just said they were going to let their holdings expire.

>>50106771
The news is literally 2 weeks behind on everything. They've JUST admitted we are heading into a recession "b-but it will totally be a mild one not a bad one no one panic."

>>50106800
>rally 10%
>inflation numbers come out
>crashes 20%

>>50106829
They also said inflation was transitory and there would DEFINITELY be no recession. How times have changed in only a few months.

In retrospective, this was the greatest contrarian indicator for SOXL

>>50106887
but we could have a mild recession, it doesnt mean great depression

>>50106876
not sure, but powell referred to 2.5% as neutral and I think 3.5 or more as aggressive

third worlder here
my stock mutual funds down 5.71% in just 1 week because you amerimutt piece of shit fed announceed rate hike.
HOW THE FUCK IS IT MY PROBLEM? YOU FUCKING ENDED THE BULLRUN. FUCK OFF. STOP INFLUENCING OUR MARKET.
I'm on $800 unrealized losses. that's a big amount for me okay? literally more than 1 year of my salary.

>>50106897
Seeing Intel gargle nuts for subsidies is so fucking sad

>>50106876
they may just have to accept 4% inflation. the fed has been trying to cause 2% inflation for a decade and has failed, did you know that? they arent as spooked as they make it out to be. plus a lot of the inflation is absolutely supply side. lots of stimulus+saving + no economic productivity/inventories

Well in a good bit of news my emergency fund account now pays 1.0% interest. Used to be a puny 0.40%.

>>50106897
I figured it was the literal ads that dextrion was putting out on reddit advertising soxl during what would turn out to be its peak.

capatcha: 2222t

>>50106930
>third worlder here

Stopped reading after that.

>>50105869
melania was gross and everybody laughed behind her back

Hey bros, if anyone is interested I track foreign currency exchanges and performance. Take-aways are:
>Rouble is over-performing (sell)
>Yen is under-performing (buy)
>CAD, AUD, CHF consistent static performance
>Argentina suffers.

The market is actually going to gap up Tuesday. The bullish sentiment from today leading into 4th of July as well as Futures sentiment is going to trade the market upwards. I seriously can't think of any reason why it would drop unless absolutely bad news would come up. Today was a good day to enter a position, even a small one. You have to to be absolutely insane to think otherwise.

>>50106930
Nobody cares, the world belongs to america

>>50106930
>he didn't research the exposure to American markets of his fund and hedge accordingly
Alfredo, I...

>>50105026
DeSantis worships Jews just like Biden and Trump.

>>50106930
kek baggies

>>50106975
>t. Macron

>>50106930

earn $800 a year

>>50106981
Are those some crab wontons?!

>>50106844
>pic
some more graphs you might like

>>50106980
>yen is underperforming
Maybe because the BoJ owns more than 50% of JP treasuries

>>50106930
Wow your even poorer than me.

>>50107025
He earns less than 800 lmao

>>50105415

Is the best investment to leave money in the bank account and let the dollar go up?

>>50106930
Lol what country

>>50106107
>2 negative GDP reports doesn't necessarily mean a recession
>Okay it's a recession but here's why that's a good thing
>The recession is transitory
>3 years of negative GDP in a row doesn't necessarily mean a depression
>Okay it's a depression but here's why that's a good thing
>The depression is transitory
>It's not the collapse of society
>Okay it's the collapse of society but here's why that's a good thing
>Why do you even need to live anyway?
>When you think about it life is a cruel and meaninlgless farce

>>50107189
Not in 2022 my friend

>>50106930
We need flags on /biz/

>>50106930
Where do you live? That seems like an unlivable wage honestly, that’s like $10 a week. If you have access to a computer and speak English I will literally hire you for double that to work for me right now

>>50106788
>also buy oil
sorry, thats priced in.

>>50106728
Looking again, the orders seems to have an even distribution of long and short calls which imply it’s $24m of call credit spread.… which are BEARISH

Fuck

BUDDY LOOK AT GDPNOW COMPUTER

Will there be futures on Sunday?

>>50107285
It’s ok it’s only -10% real growth in the economy, not a big deal. Market green see all ok

>>50106930
Sorry third world bull bro. There's a lot of money waiting on the sidelines. We will heem bobo soon. I promise you that.

KO and Paramount pay out the divvy today. woot woot.

>>50107192
>>50107226
>>50107239
Indonesia
my wage is Rp8.2 million a month = measly $550 after my currency weakening because of inflation announcement and fed rate hike. I kept hearing doomer post about Dollar dying, but if that's true, then WHY DOES IT KEEP STRENGTHENING AGAINST ANY OTHER CURRENCIES?

>>50107304
yeah a negative Q2 GDP print is actually bullish because powell will likely pivot because of it

>>50107314
my currency is fucking dead

>>50107314
Oh $550 a month is pretty steep, if it was that in a year I would hire you right now fuck. What do you do for a living?

>>50107330
Yeah powell pivot will definitely help the markets a lot inflation has been so good for my stonks already

>>50107314
>I kept hearing doomer post about Dollar dying, but if that's true, then WHY DOES IT KEEP STRENGTHENING AGAINST ANY OTHER CURRENCIES?
it just means that other currencies are losing value faster than the USD

>>50107337
Oh you'd be surprised.
junior investment banking analyst
a prestigious job that gets paid around $100,000 a year in USA
In here? hahahahahahah
The yearly bonus is nice though, but nowhere near $100,000 nice.

>>50107370
inflation is not what makes the stonks pump, it's low rates

>>50106290
Already happening with crypto exchanges.

>>50107387

investment banker is just a salesman
instead of selling car or homes, they sell companies

>>50107285
>>50107304
Wtf happened here

>>50107387
Oh what’s good my East Asian counterpart, I am an Investment banking analyst for operations at one of the global custodians. It is a pretty nice gig in the US you are right, everything is being outsourced to you guys though, except most of the asset pricing.

>>50107394
Exactly, with low rates investment gets dumped into stocks because bonds and money markets earn next to nothing. Now, with my Goldman Sachs savings account paying 1.2%, I can earn literally infinitely more money there each month than I can in the stock market

>>50107394
I’m aware, hence the retard Pepe. Inflation destroys profit margins, rates destroy multiples

>>50105987
>OKTA

Why? They got hacked recently. Let me tell you something, I can write a PHP script to authenticate into Active Directory. Or Oauth2. They're trying to make that freely available library shit into a SaaS, and think they're providing value. No, they'll be the first to go in a recession.

Furthermore, I got 5 emails in the past 2 weeks from OKTA sales reps. I never replied to any of them, but they keep sending. No, I do not want to use your "authentication as a service". Do with this information what you will.

>>50106904
I don't think it will be a depression at least I hope not. But over the last 2 decades the recessions have become more and more violent. Keep in mind real inflation would be double digit if they were using the metrics from the 80s. This feels more and more like a case of the emperor has no clothes. Everyone KNOWS the economy is fucked beyond belief but no one will admit it.

>>50105986
>ATVI for the 20% return.

This is a forward-looking statement that they "expect" but it is not guaranteed or "done". Be careful, I got into a similar situation with PSTH.

>>50107421
Forgot about Celsius

>>50107430
Bogged.

>>50107430
I swear to god it's gonna go to -4% by tuesday. The market seems like it's gonna jump off a cliff soon.

>>50107426
That's for merger & acquisition department.
I mostly b*nd issuance for worthless refinancng. Helping companies issue b*nds to pay for previously issued b*nds haha what a fucking joke.

>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
FUCK OFF. how can I check banned words here?

>>50107463
The depression was caused by massive bubbles in the 20s and then credit being immediately redacted in the 30s, I don't see the latter ever happening again

>>50107512
>Helping companies issue b*nds to pay for previously issued b*nds haha what a fucking joke.
You don’t like that? I fucking love the bonds game, what’s your biggest gripe? Just unfulfilling? You can’t check banned words here btw jannies are power tripping scum

>>50107506
And we’re going to have all weekend to think about it

Thoughts on APA?

test

>>50107554
It's more chill and relaxed compared to advisory/M&A that work all day all night every day, but it's extremely unfulfilling. There's no real purpose in my job.
>Helping companies issue b*nds to pay for previously issued b*nds
This is fucking stupid. I fucking hate refinancing.
I do stock IPO too sometimes, which is more exciting since the scale and publicity are way bigger, but I only get to do that every 15 b*nds issuance or so.

here is some fresh hopium bros. this is the 2nd half of the year for all previous years in which the first half was down this much or more

>>50107672
Hmm, this >>50107659 paired with >>50107672 unironically is some good hopium

>>50107314
>>50107333
During a time of global uncertainty, currencies flock to the U.S. dollar. The dollar will go down soon enough. Look at how strong the rupiah was to the dollar in 2010-2012 - that's because everyone "sold" dollars to buy stocks. In the next 1-3 years the rupiah will gain to the dollar. Don't be a moron, don't act on emotion, and DO NOT buy mutual funds!

This helps explain it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qTOWuL7Zco

>>50107672
>hopium

Hmm... ok. So then we buy it open, and it dumps, to shake out the goyim like us who buy strictly based on FOMO and on this infographic. Then, after a few hours, we question our decision and sell the bottom. After which point it'll be green candles for the rest of the year. And we can only watch as we get left behind.

See? I'm getting better at this.

>>50107662
You just gotta aim higher my guy, you speak pretty good English and you understand finance, you could easily run train anywhere you want to go. Your jobs super important, all these trash companies you’re refinancing for only exist because they can reissue debt like candy, I imagine you’re seeing a lot of higher rates start to come in and possibly even some defaults. You possibly have a front and center seat to one of the most spectacular fireworks shows when debt markets start to fracture even harder

>>50107453
thanks

>>50107750
>DO NOT buy mutual funds
why?
I'm a talentless trader. I always lose money buying individual stocks and crypto is out of the question for the same reason.
I have no other alternatives until I have enough funds for big boys investments like real estate.

>>50107773
Pretty much. The current "issue" is the goyim are refusing to budge and capitulate. They refuse to start the bull run again until they have seen the goy capitulate. So it is a staring match as they slowly bleed out the market. We could see a rally in the second half but without capitulation Wall Street will not turn let it run.

>>50107672
>>50107659
So will I unironically make it if I just keep DCAing through all this bullshit and holding essentially forever? If those things are true then isn't this one of the best times to be loading up on leverage?

I mean have you guys used instagram lately its fucking ads everywhere. META has got to be making money, i think theyll be fine. Until there's actually a new better app that takes over the world their "moat" is fine

>>50105149
My TXN is my strongest divvie stocks and longest hold. I think It’s around fair value right now.

>>50107898
We have seen the market bounce back too many times. We have seen the bailouts. There is literally no reason to capitulate if you aren't into "timing" the market. The market is a kind of government welfare and social security. It is everyone's retirement.

>>50107659
now look at the following 6 months after these worst performances

>>50107933
The Facebook and Instagram feeds have gotten so bad at this point. I actually can't tell when I'm looking at an account I even followed anymore, so many accounts are paying to be promoted and the algorithm is so fucked.

>>50107875
>I have no other alternatives until I have enough funds for big boys investments like real estate.
There are things like fundrise or yieldstreet, but I don't know enough about them to tell if they're scams or not.

>>50107875
Would you let me, a random person on the internet manage your money? I've been doing it for 4 years. Also I'll take 2% of your money every year regardless of how well I perform. Also If you want your money back you need to email me and I might send it in 5 business days.

>Regulars get mad
>Try to move /smg/ to multiple different boards
>Get kicked the fuck out of each one, can't even make one in /trash/
>Realize this shit is forever stuck on this board and will be subject to people getting banned/posts deleted for inane reasons most would disagree with
I'm done. I'm out. I'm not stuck here forever. Goodbye.

>>50107957
Oh I know. Honestly the only way I see real capitulation happen is if the boomers begin to retire and pull their money from the market.

>>50108000
See you next week.

>>50107875
Basically, you lose money because you buy stocks after people are talking about them.
You also sell them. If you want to be wealthy, don't ever sell if you're investing in non-leveraged ETFs, indexes, and mutual funds.

You have to dig and find stocks no one is talking about because memes kill dreams, and then buy and hold a diverse group of 10 or so stocks.

You can buy mutual funds, ETFs and index funds, but you should shop for the lowest fees

I like DEF and VLU right now but SPY is super dependable. A Russell 2000 etf or index would be good right now as well. I wouldn't recommend any specific industry or commodity funds because shits fucked right now

>>50107957
Who the fuck knows.... I might switch to mostly buying calls, but still a few puts just in case

https://twitter.com/Fxhedgers/status/1543055992220295168
FUCK
>FUCK
FUCK
>FUCK
FUCK
>FUCK

>>50108038
Always hedge.
I hold a lot of stocks and calls and puts on different stocks

>>50108000
You people are being so dramatic. Do you guys not know how to open a new tab in /x/, /pol/ or some shit and go have some fun for awhile, then come back? Yipes senpai shill a stock. I'm honestly looking at USO. PUTS, heh. :^)

>>50108023
Why wouldn't you hold leveraged index funds if you're already going to hold index funds?? Chop loss has been proven wrong a million times already

>>50108047
oil barons please tell me how to take advantage of this before I miss the boat and high oil prices fuck over everything else in the market

>>50108074
Because they track down. They do not put out true 2x/3x results
If you have the paper hands I'm certain you have, leveraged ETFs will make you poor faster than hookers and blow

>>50108047
yeah thats not happening

>>50108000
>can't even make one in /trash/
Did they try and it got deleted? Or was it just not tried?

>>50108104
Is there anyway you can construct your own "leveraged ETF" using an automated program or a script? I'm already approved for 3x margin than what I have in IBKR. It'd be like SOXL but without the fees.

>>50108104
They don't though? If you expect SPY to essentially go up for the rest of your life, UPRO will undoubtedly give you larger returns

>>50108047
This means their sell price is $200. Read between the lines.

SWPPX - Mutual fund, exp rate is 0.02% ($2 a year per 10k in blunt terms) VOO - ETF, exp rate is 0.03%. Uh yeah, frankly the fees only really start to become a problem once you hit I dunno 1 million. But then again your sitting on 1 million. The tax hit would be far worse than the fees.

>>50108126
The problem with leveraged ETFs is that they track on the minute/second so every movement pulls them down.

This might be wrong but I think buying SPY on 3x margin would net more gains than the 3x etf

>>50108093
Have you heard of BOIL

>>50108104

>>50105480
Same. It’s going to crater. Covid low split adjusted is like $55 lolll. Going to at least hit that and likely lower.

>>50108023
>>50108074
Leveraged ETFs are an essential part of constructing a risk parity portfolio.
>https://www.etf.com/sections/etf-strategist-corner/21436-mulrane-a-risk-parity-plan-using-etfs.html?nopaging=1

>>50108132
But not 3x gains and that comes with significantly more risk.
It's just not worth it knowing etfs get played with until people get bored and then go to 0

>>50108176
Oh wait thats nstural gas

Have you heard of GUSH

>>50108190
>etfs get played with until people get bored and then go to 0
What the fuck are you talking about?? If the underlying goes up the ETF goes up. This isn't that hard

What if I use LEAPS to get 3x leverage instead of using UPRO, TMF, SOXL, etc.? Does that reduce chop loss? Or does it increase the risk of a total liquidation since circuit breakers won't protect me?

>>50108180
So you want to triple the risk of loss for 1.5% increase in gains?
Are you retarded? Do you have brain damage??

>>50108198
NRGU
OILU
UWT

Let's gamble

>>50108209
They can be closed/dissolved at any time

>>50107330
He will absolutely not pivot on neg GDP. At worst, 25bps but most likely 50bps hike and again in July and again in September

>>50108188
This is true but posters here don't diversify.
That's why it's a hard know here.

>>50108218
lol calm down. No reason to sperg out just because you were wrong.

>>50108259
A hard no******

>>50108218
>1.5% increase
Where are you getting that from?

>>50108273
So it is better to do 3x leverage without daily reset then

>>50107875
>I'm a talentless trader.
Crypto is retarded, yes. Just buy a total-market ETF like VTI or an S&P 500 like VOO. Pick a date, say the third Friday morning of each quarter and buy it. Four-times a year, forever. Nothing more complicated than that and you will be in the top 10% of Southeast Asia.

>>50107999
Huge get, this is exactly what a mutual fund is.

>>50108273
The risk isn't worth the gain. That's a fact.

Just reminding myself for the future. In periods of high inflation, it's best to hold cash.

>>50107898
it's the other way around, big money is gonna induce fake rallies, and use retail as exit liquidity. This earnings season is gonna be a complete bloodbath, so many companies are gonna offer dismal guidance.

>>50108273
Now post the averages through 2022 lmaooooooooooo

man, is there any other bigger smol brain red flag in finance than someone unironically advocating not to use leverage, that it's not worth the risk
even Bogle recommended 2.5x

>>50108295
I think you got the wrong pic there. Where's Lamy?

>>50108324
Yes.
That's why I'm hedged despite being a permabull. Retail can only win with diamond hands and a properly hedged portfolio

>>50108334
That anon is right you should buy VOO and VTI.

>>50108333
>even Bogle recommended 2.5x
Checked, where did he say this, fren?

>>50108333
We aren't going to bottom for a while. I would guess February of next year.
You're just throwing money away if you buy leveraged ETFs right now

>>50108022
>if the boomers begin to retire and pull their money from the market.
Is there any data on how degenerate the boomers have been? Boomies should already be mostly out of equities already.

>>50108333
>unironically advocating not to use leverage, that it's not worth the risk
Because it often isn't with literally any leveraged ETF that isn't tied to indexes and even then, only the big 4-5.
And circuit breakers are also relatively "recent" to avoid repeats of Volmageddeon.

>>50108352
https://youtu.be/MLgn_kVKjCE
he mentions it in this interview, sorry no idea the timestamp
>>50108370
you do not need to be trading leveraged ETFs to be trading with leverage fren

>>50108334
I do not understand what "lamy" is.

>>50108350
Thanks for the support, fren.

>>50108395
Thanks.

>>50108395
Most people don't know how to trade with leverage outside of leveraged ETFs. That's why I'm saying not to buy them.

would I be retarded if I took my oil profits at some point in the next couple of months and bought NVDA leaps?

>>50108295
ETF isn't really a thing in my country, they all have extremely low liquidity too.
I usually buy mutual fund (index stocks) every week (dollar cost averaging). I've been doing this for 1.5 years.
what do you think of that strat? I realized $1300 already, but currently down $800

>>50108423
Lamy is Lamy. She is a snow elf vtuber with big booba. She does really good ASMR and is known for making a lot of money in the vtubing industry as well as having good business sense. I just like her so I post her when I tell anon to buy VOO and VTI before they act retarded with their money.

I AM NOT TALKING TO THE ANON WHO KNOW HOW TO USE LEVERAGE. If you are making money then you are doing fine.

So, wtf happened today? I rebought puts after a bit of the pump and hearing that america's heading for recession, but then the pumping just continued. I'm worried about it becoming another nonsensical "christmas rally"-ter bullshit pump to ath.

Happy Canada day LEAFs

I'm predicting this recession lasts until midterms. If republicans take back the Senate and house the bullrun is back on. Get ready for the golden bullrun in 2024 if drumpf wins again

>>50108631
>politics matter to the market
LMAO
It is all about the Fed
>but the boomer in the white house can appoint a new one
Fancy that that the one thing that was constant through orange and not orange boomer was keeping JPOW at the Fed.

What's your bullcase anons
>Inflation starts to temper with increased oil production
>Earnings stay relatively strong
>Unemployment starts to creep up
As soon as there is signs of inflation reducing and a weakening economy, the fed will hold rates (maybe even cut them?) and back to ATHs in a year or so

>>50108631
That's my theory. I already posted this.

>>50105026
The boys are in dresses and the girl is the boy? These people are pedophiles in plain view?
>post moar
>for science

test

>>50108649
Didn't the changes to the corporates tax in 2017 increase earnings and therefore boost valuations?

>>50108601
Is he pooping?

>>50108653
>>50108649
>>50108631

Market is not recovering with these high fuel prices. Fuel prices will not recover under this administration's energy policies.

Bitcoin will not recover until the market recovers.

>>50108395
>https://youtu.be/MLgn_kVKjCE [Embed]
>he mentions it in this interview, sorry no idea the timestamp
Sorry to inform you, but I watched that video. He did not say that or even discuss anything similar.

Red pill me on mro and bcs both got some mentions on here but are down.

>>50106981
Why do those garloids have fins? Some serious mutations. They're escaping the island!

>>50108796
moomers...

>>50108724
Slavs like him are too poor for chairs. So he squats when he's tired of standing.

>>50108716
>Didn't the changes to the corporates tax in 2017 increase earnings and therefore boost valuations?
As an investor in a business, yes they boosted distributable profits. In terms of asset multiple valuations though, it's all fed rigging.
This rigging matters since you're probably more likely to buy an asset at market price and then offload it in a few months/years at the future market price. The fed heavily influences those prices.

However, if you're a permanent investor and hold until the company dividends exceed your basis, it gets acquired, or it liquidates, then tomorrows multiples are a bit less relevant - what matters most is today's price.
It's never completely irrelevant though, as many companies and really the whole economy rely on the reflexive positive feedback loop that ZIRP has created these past 14 years.

Don't fight the fed.

>>50106575
Minixidilnis shit. Go big with PRP therapy which actually regenerates your cells or go the fuck home.
T. Guy who has an apt. In 2 weeks.

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>>50108876
>>50108876
>>50108876

>>50108880
I want to let you know that I say "..and I will see you in... the next thread!" in my best tv voice and enjoy it everytime

Where is everyone? I know none of you do anything on Friday nights.

>>50108921
That phrase I took from this guy: https://youtu.be/dmcS5pC0R0g?t=959

>>50108951
damn I do it way better than that

>>50108949
Unironically banned.

had nearly twice as many posters when the thread migrated boards briefly

>>50108976
Do you want me to get example videos for all the phrases I borrowed? I literally have nothing else to do right now with my life...

>>50108980
What board did everyone got to? Was it because of the dick spammer,m

>>50108989
go work out or take some courses on Udemy

>>50109002
I'm too drunk and sad to do either of those thigs

>>50108999
It was the dick spammer and his cohorts who made and posted in the /smg/ made on /pol/

>>50109012
hey man dont be sad.

thats it. no reason. just dont be sad.

its up to you to fill your life with love. get high from exercise. beat a woman. get a pet. beat a woman. try to join a community.

It's easy for me to give this advice because then I don't need to follow it

>>50109012
I'm supposed to be studying but I'm sad too. But to hedge our bets one of us should do it.

>>50109090
I know it's up to me but by this point my personality is set in stone. Those things just aren't int he cards for me
>>50109107
I've been watching random YT essays about business stuff, does that count enough?

>>50109127
Yes

>>50109127
>I know it's up to me but by this point my personality is set in stone. Those things just aren't int he cards for me

this is false. You should look into how your brain can build synapse connections if you keep practicing or training at something without quitting. You can literally rewrite your brain.

>>50109317
Yeah but by the time that starts to have an effect I'll be an old man

>>50109378
https://youtu.be/bbLP-as1ABk

>>50109378
it really only takes a month to build a good habit

>>50109479
Whenever I build up a good habit, like exercising, after a few months I reach a point where I wonder "Why?" and then give up. Then, another few months later, I manage to convince myself it's worth trying again, and the cycle repeats.

>>50106055

>>50109378
>you will never be a man

>>50108601
>I rebought puts after a bit of the pump and hearing that america's heading for recession, but then the pumping just continued
Should have been selling puts brother

>>50108211
There's no "liquidation" with leaps, you just lose the entire debit if they expire worthless. If you get deep ITM ones they'll have little extrinsic value so theta decay and IV crush aren't a big concern. Deep ITM ones are expensive though but still cheaper than 100 shares.
Also chop loss is not the huge threat people act like it is, skim this:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2741701

The biggest problem with leveraged ETFs is that Proshares or Direxion can shut it down at any time, and they'd be more motivated to do so during an extended bear market because the outflow and low Assets Under Management can make it unprofitable to run.

>>50110098
How would I go about fine tuning the dollar amount and leverage of the position? Like how fractional shares allow me to say I want $10 of SPY, how would I get $10 of 2.5x SPY? Or is the smallest unit available the price of one contract, and the leverage I get is whatever the lambda of that contract is?