/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50054357
He is right.

it doesn't not make sense

>>50054357
should have taken the accounting pill. we've been doing nothing 3.5 weeks out of the month for longer than web dev, HR, or other do-nothing meme professions have even existed.

>"conservative" man says something stupid

many such cases

>>50054357
>WFH starts
>office wagies start posting en masse about how they don't actually do anything and can finish am entire days worth of work in 15 minutes
>company is getting free money so it is glanced over
>free money gone
>bosses starting to realize they can pay 1 person to do the work of 32 people
>meanwhile Joe Wagie showed up every day of Covid and just did his job
>bosses start giving wagie bonuses and raises
>when layoffs come around Joe Wagie will have a job and Office Wagie will be begging for money and flipping burgers as he burns his marketing degree for warmth

Add in global adoption of smart contracts on top of that. By 2030 most of these white collar jobs won't even exist any more. 50% of current employment is just adult daycare to keep people consooming anyway, what happens when smart contracts do 90% of what's left.

>>50054562
And let me guess, you're a chainlink holder

>>50054357
>WFH = redundancy
bet you are a retarded """manager"""

>>50054357
Based based and based

>>50054526
>lazy retard doesn't want to get a useful degree
>falls for the college is a meme meme
>job doesn't allow him to ever work from home
>job requires him to physically do things for 8 hours minimum
>job forces him to wear a cuck mask to work for 2 years and counting
>gets bossed around by white collar chads who wfh and make his life a living hell
>gets mad and seethes about how useless his white collar boss is (while not understanding what his boss actually does)
>Y-YOU'LL BE SORRY WHEN YOU'RE FIRED
>(doesn't realize the executives also do nothing all day)
>(doesn't realize that white collar jobs are a long, drawn out performance art)
>(doesn't realize that beyond baseline competency, social skills, bullshitting skills, and the illusion of doing good work are all that matter)

>>50054607
>t. assmad redundant "software developer"

>>50054597
Of course I am. It is inevitable.

>evidence: one article about tesla, a meme company, laying off people

>>50054638
The seething over IT careers never gets old

welders, nows our time... pls ;_;

>>50054648
Lmao yep 1000 eoy any day now kekekek

>>50054357
>No more 200k “TC” for WFH wagies, you’ll be laid off and you’ll have no choice but to fill roles in low class, low status, low paying wagecuck roles like cashier lmfao.

I've been telling people this for quite some time. Automation is coming for data based jobs before truck drivers. If you do any back end data entry, analytics, file keeping, accounting etc all of that is being automated within 3 years through distributed ledgers, decentralized oracles, smart contracts, and AI

>>50054627
It's over

>>50054627
>(doesn't realize that white collar jobs are a long, drawn out performance art)
>(doesn't realize that beyond baseline competency, social skills, bullshitting skills, and the illusion of doing good work are all that matter)
Way to out yourself redundant wagie
Say bye bye to your bullshit job

>>50054627
Nice self own lmao

>>50054689
right now, as i write this shitpost, i'm on an email chain with a segment CFO of a fortune 10 company, working to get rep letters signed for a statutory audit that we file with state and federal regulatory agencies. i do maybe 20 hours of work per week. i will never be automated. i will never be fired. cope and seethe, hardhat harry.

>>50054659
Ngl I could not stand an IT career or the people in it when I was in one and if you can I have to think you must be a bugman

>>50054627
>long drawn out performance art
So true. I couldn't handle the fakery. Now I'm a neet.

>>50054357
Is Michael Burry, dare I say, el Steve Jobs de los osos, aka el Hideo Kojima de los negocios?

>work for a state agency
>WFH
>state budget has surplus this year
>salary is priced into end of 2023
>have strong union
>job has low recruitment and decent turnover

I'm not going anywhere, even during a fucking depression.

>>50054357
so reallocate the excess in the middle class and boost unskilled wages. Then the white collar and service wagies can be equally poor.

The pandemic already proved those service roles are essential and have purpose. The middle management office wagie is not.

>>50054627
No you retard, being there for 10 hours a day is the real cost. Who cares if there's nothing to do, your life ends one second at a time.

>>50054823
i work from home, my nigger.

>>50054722
Yeah sure your job where you fill out forms and talk to people all day has no chance of being automated
Sounds like a buried anxiety

Beyond these copes, let's just acknowledge that you work in an unfulfilling makework job interacting with slimy bugpeople, not even in person but through screens, and with no sense of friendship or camaraderie save for the occasional cRAzY night out at the new local gAsTrOpuB
And for what?

>>50054357
>low paying wagecuck roles like cashier lmfao.
Please stop making fun of low wage workers, it shows how retarded your society is.
You know for all the poorfag hate poor people get from rich kids you would think you assholes would use your money to curb poverty.

>>50054627
>>lazy retard doesn't want to get a useful degree
I had to drop out at 16 because my mother was a shit to live with.

>>50054357
electrical contractor here. any white collars that find themselves out of work can come work for me. you’re definitely qualified to operate a shovel.

>>50054893
>Yeah sure your job where you fill out forms and talk to people all day has no chance of being automated
wrong. what is it with jealous blue collar wagies and their inclination to make wild assumptions about what they don't understand in the slightest?

>Beyond these copes, let's just acknowledge that you work in an unfulfilling makework job interacting with slimy bugpeople, not even in person but through screens, and with no sense of friendship or camaraderie save for the occasional cRAzY night out at the new local gAsTrOpuB
absolute cope. i used to work blue collar, production worker and machine operator in a factory. the people weren't much better. fat drunk retard hicks talking about niggerball, deer hunting, and pussy vs skinny onions men talking about niggerball, tv shows, and gastropubs. same shit, different asshole. also i work from home, i've never even met my coworkers.

>>50054742
There are a few coomfy roles in IT. If you're help desk RIP in pieces, same with high level specialist roles, too stressful.

>>50054449
you will never be a woman

>>50054722
within 5 years, you’ll be replaced by a software bot.

>>50055088
20% of my job is finding and correcting errors made by a "software bot." cope.

>>50054627
>gets bossed around by white collar chads who wfh and make his life a living hell
Is that what you think happens? Top Kek.

>job uses program based on COBOL

Yeah, have fun finding someone to automate that. Not sure how many 80+ year olds still work at Microsoft.

>>50055110
i automate manufacturing processes. all the low hanging fruit has been automated in the blue collar world. i know for a fact they’re coming for you next. your job will be automated. you seem like an idiot, so you probably deserve it. good luck

>>50054357
>constantly lie about AI
>autopilot 6 years late
>pre-sell autopilot DLC that doesn't exist
>"robottaxi monopoly priced in"
>social media bots can't suppress the increasing number of stories about how shit autopilot is, how many crashes they cause and how scummy tesla is about it and the specifics of legal ratfucking they are pulling on their own customers and the auto regulators
I know how to solve this
>fire people working on improving autopilot AI
petsdotcom levels of assblasting incoming which is impressive in it's own right, because there is already a petsdotcom2 which is chewy

On the other hand officecaust can't come soon enough, HR roasties, "managers", team "leaders", "consultants", anything with 'project' in their job title that do nothing but add negative value by wasting everyone's time with meetings and are a glorified email aggregators need to be marched to the countryside to tend the rice fields.
This is the next industrial revolution, marching useless women and women equivalents from the workplace out to the countryside to plant rice patties in the fucking desert.

>>50054784
hi ca anon.

>>50054357
There's levels to the white collar thing, friend. Some have proven themselves replaceable. Others have showcased that the entire operation fails without them. If you know, you know.

>>50054357
Netflix laid off 300 something employees, other tech companies are likely to do the same, likely flooding the labor market with people who can’t afford to work for less but will ultimately have to, probably selling their houses/condos in the process.

>>50054357
He is right, but some office workers run the whole show.

The problem is HR that does the hiring.

>>50055166
if by some amazing stroke of luck you did manage to automate the mechanical aspects of my job (you can't), you would still need someone like me to review the work, challenge assertions, communicate with auditors and regulatory agencies, and be held accountable for the material accuracy of the financial statements. executive leadership won't take first pass review, and they won't be taking the blame and going to prison (sarbanes-oxley) if something goes wrong. the same applies to most white collar jobs, to a lesser degree. doing the work is a part of your responsibilities. the other part is behind held accountable for business actions and business decisions.

>>50055001
>N-no my job i-is more than that!
So you sit in a pod all day and click buttons
Sounds rather fulfilling indeed
The only kind of person that could actually sustain that is what I refer to as a bugman (You)

I'd agree that not all blue collar jobs are based such as inhuman factory jobs, and many bottom tier retail and fast food jobs (but not all)
Construction and trades are more what I'm talking about here, although some basic blue collar jobs are also good
The human spirit was not meant to sit in a room all day doing things so far abstracted from helping his fellow tribesman as to be irrelevant to him

>>50054627
>lazy retard doesn't want to get a useful degree
Student Loans
>falls for the college is a meme meme
Wasted time and money on a piece of Paper no one actually respects.
>job doesn't allow him to ever work from home
So important work needs me there at all times.
>job requires him to physically do things for 8 hours minimum
Job actually produces something if value.
>job forces him to wear a cuck mask to work for 2 years and counting
1.5 years and done you giga pussy. Soldiers sat in trenches filled with water up to their ankles for weeks with gas masks on you soft faggot.
>gets bossed around by white collar chads who wfh and make his life a living hell
Pfffft you have never worked a blue collar job everyone is making fun of you.
>gets mad and seethes about how useless his white collar boss is (while not understanding what his boss actually does)
No one cares what you do because it could probably be done by less people
>Y-YOU'LL BE SORRY WHEN YOU'RE FIRED
We could care less they will replace you with someone who eerily is just like you or worse some hip zoomer.
>(doesn't realize the executives also do nothing all day)
We do but they actually make decisions that matter.
>(doesn't realize that white collar jobs are a long, drawn out performance art)
Dance for me wagie dance.
>(doesn't realize that beyond baseline competency, social skills, bullshitting skills, and the illusion of doing good work are all that matter)
Holy cope!

>>50055190
based pol pot enjoyer

>>50055290
>construction and trades
biggest cope around. have fun driving 1.5 hours each way to the job site and putting in a 12 hour day with alcoholic retard coworkers in the blistering heat or blistering cold, all the while a boomer foreman is screaming in your face because some white collar office chad project manager is making his life an absolute living hell.

>>50055190
baZed

>>50054784
Fellow government union employee here. I'm going to keep taking naps and watching porn all day while I work from home, and if you have a problem with that you can take it up with my union representative

>>50054742
everyone knows this is the truth and it's probably a large reason our current world feels so shit
rewarding the worst people with the highest wages acts as demoralization

>>50055371
Bro no foreman is screaming at anyone. They will walk out on the peoject. Heaven forbid they are union workers. Who's gonna do the work idiot?

>>50055439
Government union jibs are another beast entirely.

>>50054357
If you're a smart white collar wagie, it won't matter. I got into software dev 3 years ago, about 65% just for the money, and am now WFH wagie at $111k base (+$9.5k matched/"employer contributed" ann., plus stock equity). And with the situation being 65% for the money, I also have been continuing my cheap, minimalist lifestyle, since, and have saved 71% of my post tax income, on average, since I started dev, with a large amount of income also deposited to tax differed or exempt accounts.

And so even if I was to be laid off tomorrow, I would still have already stacked a decent bank, in only 3 years. Plus, I have large amounts in cash, from my WFH wagie job, as I moved 50% stock holdings into USD and 100% BTC into USDT, before the markets crashed. -45% S&P dip? +122% on move up to price before dip. You can also short, but I don't play with leverage much anymore.

Once you grow your stack big enough, wagie worries don't matter, as you can live off passive growth, and if you have played (and still can play) your hand right, there is still plenty of wealth to be made on the way down.

>>50054675
>distributed ledgers, decentralized oracles, smart contracts
kek, crypto has barely any real-world, enterprise use cases yet.
You're right IT will automate these jobs away, but without crypto tech.
Look how many pen-pushers Workday eliminated in one fell swoop.

>>50055371
Zoomer shut in who doesn't have a fuckin clue right here lol

>>50054357
Cashier is getting automated FAST.

>>50054689
Wagies work redundant positions, acting as a, and in, a performance art, and by having people at their jobs like them. The jobs produce superfluous products for braindead consoomers, obsessed with BRAND and LATEST MODEL.

The workers work for the ultra rich, the Bezos and Zuckerberg. They make profit by consoomers consooming. The consoomers get their money from working jobs provided by the same ultra rich. The corporations are also diligently succeeding in removing individual and community rights. In addition, the internet has hyper individualized and escapized normality and we are on the path to become perfect consoomers, from it.

So, the ultra rich pay the WFH wagies. The WFH wagies then buy the products produced by the same ultra rich and corporations they work for. The ultra rich grow stronger. The internet and surveillance grow more encompassing. Our historical data and analytical abilities of it grow exponentially. Ultimately, its a con game. But if you stack your high income big and fast, instead of consooming it, then you can bail after a short while, and a least get to exit the wagie/consoomer cyclical loop earlier.

>>50054526
>bosses start giving wagie bonuses and raises
Kek, I can tell you have never worked before in your life

>>50055371
The true delusion is believing "project managers" arent human toilets getting absolutely shit on from all directions especially in any construction...their compensation is chained to their abilities to tolerate cancer causing bullshit stress day in and day out

Its not that wagies are unneeded, its that 90% of Jobs that exist have no reason to
Unless you are a slave to GDP
They are desperate to push the story that office workers are not needed and hide the fact that things still ran when almost everyone stayed home

>>50055802
The workers are necessary for their salaries. The salaries are necessary for consooming. The more someone makes, the more they will consoom the products of those who pay them, and the richer those who pay them will become.

The jobs are needed, even if the jobs are a farce, as they need to pay people, so those people can buy their products, so those paying can get richer. Its like a pyramid scheme. Wagie life is not enslaved to GDP. It is the GDP.

>>50054357
I'm a software developer of 10 years with a degree in EE and CE who can do residential/commercial electrical work, run a lathe and mill, and fly a plane. I'm confident I could pivot into practically any field I want no matter what happens to society since I skillmaxxed simply because it's fun to do. I'm saying this to set up the fact that I really don't care if his prediction is true or not. It does not matter to me.

Having said all that, I think he's both right and wrong. We'll see the death of useless workers who were warming seats and pushing emails around. There will be a short term excess of white collar labor with that flood, but the skilled will still be in demand and wages will be forced up in that market so long as living expenses continue to rise. The ones who can't make it won't stay in the same market, and will push down wages in the unskilled market instead.
>I predict a new wave of women wanting to be housewives now.
lol maybe, but our culture and economy is strongly geared towards double income households. They won't be able to.

>>50055776
Cope, PM's never give a fuck because they know they can get away with anything by passing the blame off. They only exist because boomers are too retarded to see through their uselessness, except in tech where they're replaced in agile

Pretty much every woman in any tech corporation is redundant and useless, along with 80% of the men. Did people really think they can get paid 300k a year to snack 10 times a day and have constant useless meetings interspersed with ping pong and sitting in quiet rooms?

>>50054357
What makes Burry's paragraphs so hard to read, can't he write normally?

>>50054448
This. But damn those five days of close suck ass.

>>50054357
this fucker is nothing but doom and gloom negative nancy shit

>>50055132 haha my friend's dad is a mainframe programmer, still working part time, 77 years old.

>>50055936
>I predict a new wave of women wanting to be housewives now.

It will be the norm for couples planning to get married by the 2030s

>everything comes full circle

>>50054448
kek
>t. web dev eating ice cream and watching one punch man at home

>>50054357
he is right, most jobs including doctors and lawyers will be replaced to some extent by AI and automation. HR roasties on suicide watch. most people will die off vax or their next gen will die of mom and dads taking the vax. and after that happens we can finally enter in society 5.0. great times ahead for some complete degeneracy for others. most will have to whore out on street corners and slave markets.

>>50054448
Can literally be automated. Should have taken the machine learning pill.

>>50054526
The boss will fire Joe Wagie and keep thot who does not work, because the boss is a retarded boomer.

>>50056366
to think accounting is safe kek literally cashier tier safety levels RIP

>>50054675
> Automation is coming for data based jobs before truck drivers. If you do any back end data entry, analytics, file keeping, accounting etc

Kek. I wfh in sales and my product "automates" inventory processes

In reality, it just trims down some time consuming error prone bullshit. Its the same for most other things. You should see the tech most of these companies are still shackled to. There are so many issues and additional edge cases you could never solve for everything, just some. If this could have been automated, it would have years ago as these systems rarely receive any noticeable updates.

Most popular POS system for enterprise hotels? Micros. e-procurement? birchstreet. etc etc. Its hilarious to think automation is going to take over like people think.

>>50056366
>>50056396
Keep dreaming retards. You don’t know shit about accounting.

>>50056433
kek this. rude, dumb, arrogant codenigger scum.

>>50056459
>>50056459

I see a bucket and a mop in the future for these old Gen Xers

>>50056407
>If this could have been automated
Most clerical work *could* have been automated years ago, but for whatever reason it's not something management puts much value on. Managers and small business owners tend to be bean-counting simpletons with no understanding of the big picture.

>>50056489
accounting is just debits and credits on a ledger database, right? go on, automate it. the programming languages and machine learning techniques have been sufficiently advanced to automate it for decades. go on, automate it -- im waiting.

>>50056213
It's because you're an actual retard. He even uses commas correctly, unlike you. Your post should have read: "What makes Burry's paragraphs so hard to read? Can't he write normally?"

>>50054357
He's not wrong. A big part of the TC of these tech jobs was RSUs and, if the Fed keeps rates at a reasonable level instead of at historical lows, stock prices are never going to those retarded P/E ratios for some time.

>>50054562
>execs will just write smart contracts, bro

>>50055523
>software dev
he's probably more referring to middle management types that do nothing but forward emails, write powerpoints on company culture, and pad employee numbers, everyone knows these jobs are excess, would apply less so to in-demand skilled jobs that actually build the product

>>50054357
we need some fucking hard times, true hard times, covid lockdowns was WAY TOO EASY.
let people feel the actual crumble so we can straighten up and fill our natural roles.
lets go.

>>50054675
>just automate the analytics, bro

>>50056697
Hell yeah bro I wanna get super hard with you

Its the opposite

High skilled wagies are being paid more and are what is driving inflation

Low skilled wagies getting shit on and not likely to increase wages without government raising minimum wage

>>50055499
>>50055439
>Co-worker with 30 years experience announces retirement right before COVID
>gets sent to WFH with everyone else
>openly talked about how it would take a minimum of 18 months to fire her through the union
>retired 1 year after WFH started
>job is roughly 50% call center
>she just stopped answering the phones

>>50054357
>you’ll have no choice but to fill roles in low class
Way ahead of you bro.

>>50056526
And that will never change. Most of these companies absolutely refuse to risk changing workflows. Change one big thing and something fucks up during the switch over? Could be billions of dollars in lost revenue and the CTO/CFO getting fired for it.

Thats why automation only comes in micro doses

>>50054357
seething boomer, always wrong

>>50054675
>back end data entry
the fact that you wrote this means you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

>>50054357
Alex Jones said the same shit, by staying home for 2 years during the pLandemic lockdowns they proved how unessential they all are.

>>50054449
>"conservative" man says something stupid
You must be a WFHomo, us office chads talk shit about you on the daily and are already sowing the seeds that will be your removal

>>50056612
You're*

>>50054675
100% this but the white collar niggers will just seethe and say that out jobs will disappear. Yeah I’d like to see a robot build concrete driveways/decks you nigger.

Feels good to be in trades. Office managers have no clue what to do when something practical goes wrong, even small jobs. picrel is the next sidejob.

>>50055755
Yep it’s all a scheme except the rich are not really paying their white collar workers, the value comes from producers, all value comes from real jobs and that value is transmuted by Jewish financial alchemy. Ultimately it is the real workers who pay by getting a smaller slice of the pie because of parasitic make work employees taking all the value (the rest of the pie) for themselves when they did shit all in baking the pie.

>>50056526
who inputs the data anon? most jobs are just data entry and who inputs the data is more input than efficiency.

>>50054627
Doesn't sound like a really virtuous nor sustainable modele when 80% of society larp as working while doing strictly nothing of value and dab on the few ppl left who keep this shitshow alive.
You are so corrupted and nihilistic you fail to see how pathetic and disgusting this entire situation is. The "low level" wagies are literally the only ones keeping this masquerade alive. The minute they figure this out, all the do nothing larpers like us will be in deep trouble. You need to learn some humility.

>creative job
>wfh last two years made me more creative and have better output
>called back to office
>they are confused my output has gotten worse
AI has no soul and lacks the spark of god to create therefore my job will never be in trouble from automation (smart contract cucks get fucked this has been on the horizon for decades). All that will happen is the leeches will be removed. Mostly Jews or Jew-like creatures.

>>50058810
>who inputs the data anon?
Too many people are inputting the same data over and over again. Data collection is fully automatable.

>>50054627
Am I the only white collar guy that actually works?

>>50055776
>>50055982
I'm a construction PM and I can confirm that we get shit by everyone. If you don't document every fucking interaction and progress of the job you will get shafted.

sounds like the people laid off were professional CAPTCHA solvers not AI engineers or some sort of skilled labor

>>50055316
>Holy cope!
>replies twice coping harder each sentence
You'll recover anon, just close the tab

>>50059566
kek they were training their replacement all along

>>50055982
The reason PMs exists is because companies are too cheap to hire real managers. PMs save companies money by being cheaper than real managers.

>>50054357
>Cassandra
>is obviously male

Since when has /biz/ ever taken advice from a literally mental ill tranny. Gtfo

>>50058684
>blue collar wagies bragging about being cheaper than a literal robot
>tfw they find out where the word robot comes from
lol I love the uneducated

>>50054416

>give every person ever a degree
>turn it into the new highschool diploma globally
>funnel everyone through useless degrees outside of STEM like business
>create a blow off the top with free money and low interest rates
>reveal via pandemic how productivity doesnt change much when a load of your workers jack off at home.

Its been a long time in the making. The fact that production is moving back to tue west out of china also creates a shortage of low and unskilled labour.

Some wagies who got useless degrees will hold the bags

>>50059138
Creativity is just an educated use of eternal design rules. Of course great artists will break them, but you are not an artist, you create in order to facilitate people understanding of certain stuff, ergo you cant go and break rules. You adhere to them religiously. Canva and Adobe Spark already made redundant 80% of graphic designers for example. Only the top tier ones remain, and they will be gone sooner than later.
AI can easily understand design rules and adapt to situations.
I bet I could generate 90% of the globohomo art and infographics with a shitty ai

>>50060735
He's agreeing with you anon.

>>50054562
>global adoption of smart contracts

>>50060962

I know just clarifying further. People are ignoring the surplus of degrees in playing a roll

>>50054416
Like a bunch of Wookiee’s wanting to live on Endor with three foot tall Ewoks.

>>50054526
>bosses start giving wagie bonuses and raises

what fucking universe do you live in and how do I move there?

>>50054597
>>50054665
>tranime

>>50061305
Anime website. Trannies can hang.

>>50061332
You are trans.

>>50054526
>bosses start giving wagie bonuses and raises

Managers dont manage work.
Managers manage people

>>50061342
Yeah. Transitioning into fucking your mom with my fat cock

>>50054675
>automating analytics
??

>>50054448
>>50056306
you think accounting is easy? have you ever seen anyone working at purchasing/procurement? well i certainly havent!

>>50054357
He has no idea what he’s talking about. The only concession I’ll give is that yeah, some companies that have gone hard on woke bullshit will need to cull the useless people. However, many of the big tech companies you all know cannot get rid of their technical workforce. Most of these systems need to be supported by an army of people and the amount of people who are able to do that well is still pretty small, no matter how much doomer bullshit Burry is gonna keep spreading. It’s like, yeah fundamentally if you’re useless and don’t have any actual useful skills guess what, you might lose your job. For everyone else though who has technical skills then these guys will always be in demand.

>>50061771
he might be referring to machine learning and neural networks. not fully automated, but nothing ever is

Everyone gets the squeeze when the economy shits itself, what niggas should really be focusing on is being more valuable than your coworkers so they get chopped first

>>50054357
I'm a wfh nigger with 2 100k+ yr jobs. how does it feel staying poor?

Working an IT architect in a consulting business. We have our core products that we offer and we do quite well. But the real problem is the sales staff who get ideas. They are backed up by management who get greedy over seeing potential sale numbers.
The sales staff attach probability numbers to the chance of success of around 5-10% etc (meaning there is no fucking way this will be sold). It forces all supporting staff (i.e. me) to spin our wheels over fucking nothing.
Even if the idea is sold to the customer, there is no fucking way we can support or deploy it for them, resulting in more busy work and lost revenue from trying to put a square peg in a round hole. The contracts fall over and we've then burnt around $200-$300k of staff time on it.

Majority of these staff members can be sacked, it will have a downflow effect to knock out more staff because there isn't so much bullshit work coming through the door. The middle management is fucking retarded and don't add up all the lost time due to these shit sales staff. But the business would flow nicely, burn through less staff and increase profit margins as a result.

>>50056366
kek they hire accountants precisely to not be automated, great part of accounting is them gambling on those "human errors" to happen and save their asses.

>>50054357
Not in software lmao. I just changed jobs and got a 75% pay raise. They’re literally desperate to hire more devs who are competent. And the best part is I could’ve pushed for more.

>>50058684
>Yeah I’d like to see a robot build concrete driveways/deck
Beep boop
>https://youtube.com/shorts/DNu6ApnfvdA?feature=share

>>50062510
Nigger

>>50054597
after so long making fun of others, I learned my lesson. I no longer want other people to suffer for their choice of investments, after literally losing 70% of my money in lace I don't think there is any reason to hurt us any more than we are

>>50054448
lol bullshit. Big 4 Busy seasons kill every Auditor. You're not a real accountant.

Is coding a white collar job?

the idea that accounting will be automated is hilarious to me. i work for a real estate company that primarily deals with hospitals. today I had to spend 30 minutes figuring out where a check should go because the dumbass doctor that wrote it short paid, but he is in multiple suites so we had no clue where to apply his rent payment. when asked why he doesn’t pay online, he says “he doesn’t trust it”. lol. lmao

>>50054357
this implies companies are ran purely objectively

>>50056547
>what are smart contracts, EVM, and the token not needed?
Already happening.

>>50058595
>removal
Your orange monkey god king couldn't remove illegals what makes you think with your tiny mental capacity you can remove Chad's?

>muh AI will have you all out of a job

>>50054357
Why would I hire you, if I can hire a pajeet for a fifth of the wage

>Tfw guaranteed employment regardless of if the company goes under
>WFH
>been to the office once last year, attended one functionary event to get in the good books for the year
I’m thinking based.

>>50054357
It is time to put the wagies in their place, once and for all.

>>50054448
my friend is a web dev makes 150k doing web assembly

>>50054357
He doesn't get it.
Clearly he's a very intelligent investor, but he doesn't understand that many jobs including most office jobs are SUPPOSED to be pointless.
Capitalists' prerogative is to raise their profits. One can do that by increasing revenues or by reducing costs. The major cost in most industries is labour. There are many ways of reducing labour costs, e.g. by automation or by moving jobs to lower-income countries where wages are lower, but the overall effect is that a lower proportion of total revenue in a company goes to its workers. This creates a new problem: if the working class (I'm defining working class as those whose income depends on their labour instead of ownership of capital) who make up the majority of people in society, are forever getting poorer then who is going to be able to afford to paid the goods and services that companies produce?
The solution thus far has been to create new jobs where old jobs were lost. These jobs are often stupid, pointless bureaucratic roles that do basically nothing. Of course those office admin jobs are redundant and could be eliminated: their redundancy is the point. These jobs are a version of universal basic income which require going to an office building and pretending to work for 40 hours a week.
I've worked pointless office jobs, I bothered to do probably about an hour of work a day, and yet my managers praised my work ethic. These jobs won't be eliminated because they can't be. Capitalism /needs/ these jobs, or no one would be able to afford the commodities capitalism produces.

>>50067150
what you are describing is known as government jobs. those are the positions that are essentially welfare UBI. private companies do not keep redundant jobs because its unprofitable. only government grows and adds more useless jobs because its a neverending scam on the taxpayer to keep a corrupt few in power.

>>50067150
>These jobs are a version of universal basic income which require going to an office building and pretending to work for 40 hours a week.
This is such an important idea. It's weird that most people *almost* understand it, they know that there are a lot of bullshit jobs, but they don't quite get there.

My company literally broke record in revenues last year. They announced we’re permanent wfh and actually sold 2 of our buildings.
Laborcucks ITT are just seething because they fell for the trade meme that was shilled heavily on 4chan for years and now realize they have 35* years of back breaking slave labor to look forward to meanwhile us white collar chads make 3x their salary for doing nothing all day.
I literally spent my entire day today watching Japanese piss porn and working out while “working” what did you do laborcuck?

>>50067378
>My company literally broke record in revenues last year.
>last year
Who's going to tell him?

>>50067392
Sorry I don’t live in your 3rd world butgerstand shithole and our cpi is actually under 3%
Keep seething laborcuck.

>>50061103
Here's an updoot kind stranger :)

>>50054675
>I've been letting people know I'm a fucking retard for quite some time
based

>>50067426
Literally the entire first world peaked last year chud.

>>50063134
i worked in big 4 audit for 9 months. it's gay and you're retarded if you put up with it for more than the 2 years it takes to reach senior.

>>50063261
>that low IQ nigger who thinks smart contracts are the silver bullet that saves the business world

hey retard if contracts are so infallible then why does contract law exist, and why are contractual a frequent occurrence despite contracts being drafted by literal teams of corporate counsel? how will smart contracts fix this? also you still don't seem to understand the importance of challenging assertions and validating inputs, which is a significant part of accounting once you get past the role of staff.

>>50061823
I do coding work for procurement, I do literally nothing

>>50054357
>be me
>wfh wagie
>realize I can continue down the path of UX design and web development or pick some enterprise software and specialize
>one hand has purple haired ladyboys and promoted all over reddit
>other hand is mostly white and some poo's, only promoted in India
>pick the poo route
>turns out all poo's are incompetent and all companies are begging for someone with brains
>join company
>unlimited workload, will never have to worry about job security ever again

lmao I always tell people to just learn javascript and python and laugh behind their back
Actually you just need some AWS or MS certs and speak coherent English.

>>50067891
learning python has put me in basically unlimited demand and speedrun me through promotions, the meme of "I will replace your job with a python script" is actually true and I have done it to loads of departments

>>50054357
Women will just do more MLM schemes and call themselves entrepreneurs. Women NEVER pick the less destructive option, especially if it can potentially be what a man wants.

>>50067934
Everybody and their grandma is learning it now though as if it's some holy grail.
Have fun while it lasts. these things happened before.
And old colleague of mine told me a story of a guy who made some VBA scripts back in the day they are still using. Now they still pay him wages even though he doesn't work there anymore. Just because he is the guy that can quickly fix it if it breaks.
Make some massive spaghetti code and document fuck all

>>50067891
>>50067934
Please tell me more about how more jobs can be reduced to apps. I feel most human interactions could simply be automated.

>>50068054
>>50068053
companies are still really bad at data processing, people move Excel files around and make changes to them manually that can be scripted.

As an example there was a department who had 2 people working full time editing files in the same way adding extra information in.

I set a python script up to map that data from their databases to the Excel files directly

Maybe one day that sort of shit will dry up, but it isn't anytime soon

>>50068116
Yeah I did that for a while with RPA at a bank. MS is moving in fast with power automate desktop for legacy software. It's part of windows 11 even by default.
It's insane how many office workers come to work and just copy paste data from A to B all day long and go home.

>>50068116
>companies are still really bad at data processing

Do banks and weather stations still use old systems that can't be fixed and/or replaced?

https://4chanarchives.com/board/biz/thread/1332463 (skip down to hr anon for his whole story about things I've never see /g/ talk about)

>>50054659
It's the one area where for a brief period the nerds were able to strong arm their boomer bosses for liveable wages for a short period of time in the 80s and 90s.

They never forgot and they're desperate to make the current and next generation into minimum wage bob head rajeet roles by any means necessary with things like Azure.

>>50068116
Yes. I know a guy who was an engineer and project at a large building management company. He build scripts for spread sheets and Gantt charts. The account reps didn't know how to use any of that and just updated multiple spreadsheets manually. He eventually quit to become a commercial pilot.

>>50054416
yes it definitely is doesn't not does

>>50054742
>>50055442
That's why my programming job pays so well, most people are just too retarded to do it and come up with bullshit excuses to cope with their retardation.

>>50068201
I worked at a large bank and yes it's full of old software.
Teams are working on replacements but they all have massive scope creep.
They even had semi serious plans to just launch a 'new' company within the company and basically start over and replace everything.

>>50068309
its also really not that hard to repair old shit but many people refuse to consider learning it.

I have fixed javascript, VBA and even Haskell code, I am not a "dev" in any of those things but it isn't hard to google shit

>>50068240
many such cases. the one thing that "DUDE EVERYTHING CAN BE AUTOMATED LMAO" crowd doesn't understand is that business agility is an important consideration. some boomer VP wants a new analysis put together and the technigger SaaS automation software (or the spaghetti code internally developed tool) can't do it. what happens? he hires a spreadsheet jockey to slap together a quick and dirty analysis with ERP pulls and Excel/PowerBI/Tableau/etc. only the lowest hanging of roles are ripe for automation.

>>50054939
What about her boyfriend?

>>50054526
>meanwhile Joe Wagie showed up every day of Covid and just did his job
I went from 18/hr to 24/hr during covid because I show up to work everyday
I got a couple thousand in bonuses
And it's still continuing because it's not a WFH job and also it's in a town no one wants to live in.
just don't be redundant

>>50055802
>things still ran when almost everyone stayed home
you forget the literal trillions in gibs that kept it going and now we're all paying the price with inflation.

>>50056366
This seethe from non accountants has been around for 30 years. Not a single part of the industry has been automated away, at most some data entry time wasters have been taken off our plates and passed down to lower level clerical wagies. Tax software was supposed to kill the tax prep industry and yet my firm has to turn people away due to demand.

>>50067293
>what is company HR department

>>50063134
Only gigacucks work for big 4

Codefags are going to be out of jobs and lacking any functional skill in the real world and will be completely fucked

Thank you god for finally given this bragging cunts what they deserve hahahhahahha

>>50068361
And over time this spreadsheet grows and needs fulltime maintenance. Some external tool is brought in. Dumb scripts get written.
10 years later it needs some consultants to work it all out and replace it with a standardised solution.
Keeping everybody busy I guess

>>50068523
yeah that isn't happening

>>50068361
and what about when you want to do anything with that data? What about daily refreshes of the data? What about when the coders can offer to save you weeks of work, it all comes back around...

>>50068541
hahahahhahhahahhaha SEEETHE AND DILATE YOU TRANNYCODEDUDEBRO

>>50054357
I thought this fag quit Twitter, he's back?

>>50068586
>What about daily refreshes of the data?
i've been in corporate accounting/corporate finance at large, publicly traded companies for about 5 years. they'll pay someone to refresh that data every day and be held accountable for its analysis. shit like this happens all the time. it's all about momentum. you pay some senior analyst wagie to run a daily or monthly analysis and speak to its results, no problem. you want to start talking to SaaS vendors for some piece of shit software that isn't very customizable, isn't very auditable, isn't very flexible, doesn't allow you to easily drill into the details, etc. then it's a big deal that takes sometimes years of planning and implementation -- and the end result is ALWAYS fucking horrible despite the $7 million in implementation costs and the $50k/mo. perpetual SaaS contract.


techniggers seem to forget that """"automation"""" isn't new. what do you think ERP systems are? they've been around for literally decades and they're ALWAYS a fucking disaster at every company i've ever worked for. the company i'm at now has literally 4 different SAP implementations running concurrently and they're all fucking garbage. we have internal SAP developers and big money SAP consultants from deloitte on payroll and it's still pure trash.

>DUDE WELL LIKE THIS ONE NEW TECHNIGGER SAAS SOFTWARE WRITTEN IN JAVASCRIPT IS GONNA LIKE AUTOMATE THE WORLD AND CHANGE EVERYTHING ACCOUNTANTS AND FINANCIAL ANALYSTS BTFO

>>50068628
talking about cope when you think all tech jobs are going to collapse lol

>>50068674
partial automation of repeatably braindead tasks like filling out Excels should be automated. I am not talking about firing the entire finance department

>>50061103
Ummm... Actually the ewoks don't live on Endor itself l they live on the FOREST MOON of Endor which has no name (as far as Disney Canon goes). The distinction is kind of a big deal and needs to be made. Sorry not sorry.

>>50068523
>>50068628
Clueless and envious, must be a treat being you.

>>50068703
>I am not talking about firing the entire finance department

fairly enough. like i said, low hanging fruit jobs like data entry or lower tier staff analyst work can be automated. anything beyond that won't be automated because directors/VPs/executives want agile and responsive departments with people who can run ad-hoc analyses and be held accountable for results. some aspects of automation tools will make their lives easier but real life follows Parkinson's Law almost exactly: work expands to fill the time allotted for its completion.

a good example is public accounting / audit. many audit firms are now using internally developed analytics tools to reduce the amount of manual labor (substantive testing selections) they do. does it save any time? no. in fact, it creates more work because now you dig deeper into the details and spend a massive amount of time writing documentation to support your narrative.

For the vast majority of workers, that haven't seen a huge shift in demand for labour, even if they fell for the 'going above and beyond meme', they're getting a single digit raise, amidst double digit inflation. So workers are already taking paycuts. It would be different if they were still at their 1-2% per year 'target', I'd expect the layoffs to happen sooner.

>you'll have to be a cashier
Those kind of jobs are being automated away already. Even more disturbing is how they're actually using third worlders with a screen and web cam to be able to outsource the ones that can't be automated.

Burry is right in that with a recession companies will trim the fat. But they always go for the obvious stuff first. It means goodbye consultants. Goodbye 'diversity and inclusion' officers. Don't plan to keep growing during the recession? Time to lay off recruiters. Division not turning a profit? Time for them all to go. Oh look, our 'head count' is so much lower now, we don't need as many 'admin' jobs or even HR anymore, time to cut those too. If you're actually in a part of the business that is making money, even if you're WFH, chances are you'll be fine.

>>50067150
>>50067324
>implying private companies will put up with meme jobs to keep the system afloat instead of focusing of making short term profit for themselves

the absolute state of nubiz

>>50068674
Kek SAP is just Indian busywork

>>50054357
Get rid of all those overpaid, useless chair dwellers. Time to use your muscles faggots! Hahaha!!

>>50068705
based forest moon poster

>>50054675

two more weeks away

>automate entire accounting job
>do fucking nothing
>they can't fire me because its uncommented spaghetti only I understand

>>50063218

Thats what automation memers don't understand. The sheer number of edge case situations means even if you can automate 95% of transactions you still have to pay an accountant to deal with the 5% fuckups. Its the same reason self driving has just turned into lane assist.

>contractor for globohomo big pharma
>they make their wagecucks come back to the cage with masks and vaccines
>most of the office is empty with the lights off
>occasional masked and sickly wagecucks appear sulking around in the dark corridors

>>50067891
I did the same as you.

I can do software dev, Dev ops and sales and I have the patience to speak to pajeets. I'm basically the poo whisperer that can translate their broken English to management and then translate business objectives to shit for brains pajeets

>>50054357
>you’ll have no choice but to fill roles in low class, low status, low paying wagecuck roles like cashier lmfao.
Those jobs now already pay more than Federal 6C contracts used to.

>>50068703
>>50068713
ITS OVER FOR YOU COMPUTERCELS
AHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH

>>50068231
I still work as a sysadmin in a WFH job and I can tell you that there won't be a shortage of fucking tech-illiterate morons for a long time.

>>50054357
Uhh, yeah, duh.

All the "office administrators" and middle managers are fucked, they've been getting fucked ever since WFH blew up.

Can you code? Are you competent, not a retard? Then you will continue to WFH and thrive.

>>50058674
kek

IM NEVER GOING BACK INTO AN OFFICE

>FUCK HR
>FUCK OFFICE POLITICS
>FUCK BOSSES
>FUCK COWORKERS
>FUCK WORKING MORE THAN 20 HOURS A WEEK
>FUCK PAYING ATTENTION IN MEETINGS
>FUCK COMPANY EVENTS
>FUCK DRESSING UP FOR WORK
>FUCK ROASTIES
>FUCK EXECUTIVES
>AND FUCK HR

IM. NEVER. GOING. BACK.

A lot of people in this thread talking about automation have never heard of GitHub Co-Pilot. Sure, it's mediocre now, but it's only the first iteration of what's coming.

>>50069623
You wont be going back to any office because youll be fired and will be working on some Mcfastfood job

I remember the same thing being said in 2008. Everyone thought it was the death of the white collar jobs. Yawn

>>50069792
I can taste your seethe but, no. Enjoy your commute to the office!

>>50068856
Even if they have to cut them it will just be temporarily.

>>50067378
>I literally spent my entire day today watching Japanese piss porn

based omorashi, i also do this but i cant do the whole day without breaking my dick. work is just something to do while in refractory period. i've been dehydrated lately, so i have to drink a lot of water and a full bladder makes me horny as fuck. after i fap, i do my best work.

>>50069813
The reason they thought that in 2008 is because nobody could have predicted the Fed response to the crash. It was absolutely unprecedented and propped all of this bullshit up. A full twenty percent of US corporations are zombies.

>>50058684
>he thinks it’s easier to automate a job requiring abstract thinking than it is to automate pouring concrete
Lol

>>50058684
This has to be bait

>clear pajeet chink astro turf op
>thread dies during euro/mutt hours
typical bot threads of literal who attention whores irrelevant

Managerkeks think that wfh shows how useless the employees beneath their ladder rung are but in reality it just shows corporate that their wagies do the same amount of work with or without management. The difference is the wagies make the money and middle management just makes headaches, so guess which one is going to be shitcanned? There is no difference between working in an office vs working at home as long as the employee is getting clear tasks and goals.

>>50054449
>burry
>conservative
Trump and Burry are both left wing democrats from New York.

>>50056366
Accounting has been automated for 50 years now. People can file their taxes for free online, and yet it's one of the most demanded services. The automation only made work easier for accountants, unlike a bricklaying robot that's going to replace the brickies.

>>50054675
>distributed ledgers, decentralized oracles, smart contracts, and AI
buzzowrd buzzword buzzword

>>50067293
People have been critical and are a lot more annoyed with government bureaucracy so I’d actually argue it’s more rampant.
All the while, this same retard “admin” mindset has been pushed into the private sector the past few decades. Welcome to managerial feudalism bud

>>50071559

Low IQ take.

Employees need monitoring. Chasing. Training. Onboarding. Workload scheduling. Goal Setting. Developing. etc.

Managers are just as pivotal as ever.

Any position in any department that's not core operations or profit making will be at stake of redundancy or pay cut. Always has been and always well bit. Those who want redundancy may be first. Then those new to the business on large salaries. Then those new to the business. Then under-performers.

>>50067293
Less rampant

>>50071646
all well and good where variation is limited. You have to have a very finely tuned and stringent product offering that you can stick with, and know that you can beat out the competition with lower fees being more attractive than bespoke work.

>>50054776
I can manage the mask-wearing for like half a year before my conscience and fraud syndrome fucks everything up and the normalfags start smelling blood in the water

>>50054357

If you can't explain what you do in three words or less, you have a bullshit job and are on the chopping block.

>>50069916
Maybe in the next bubble, but when the woke culture agenda that has been pushed for the last decade eventually becomes stale and the investors hop on to the next bandwagon, companies won't have incentive left to keep these adult children who pretend they're changing the world by doing fuck all every day.

>>50059434
Actually working gets you marked as the “other” and then normalfags starts scheming and seething

>>50055776
I can confirm, my project manager actually cried like a baby before running off to the office bathrooms to cry his eyes out. Shit was surreal.

>>50071642
>yet it's one of the most demanded services

the entire profession is just a jobs program akin to being a zogbot; the first database/spreadsheet programs made everything other than data entry obsolete.

>>50054562
Crypto is dead, bro. Nobody is going to trust it again after this drop.

>>50059733
PMs exist to have a finger pointed at them by ownership. the same ownership that will pressure them to make unethical decisions as a matter of course. everything in construction is about liability and deflecting responsibility.

>>50054638
> assmad tradie wishes he was a developer: the post
Silicon valley companies are downsizing. Other sectors are fine for software engineers, like fintech for instance. But you wouldnt know shit about that kek

>>50054357
Okay I guess our team will stop taking calls on the failures on the one million line codebase that is crucial to operation for hundreds of thousands of people

>>50054627
A lot like the division of officers and enlisted in the military.
>Officers are the thinkers that basically play political games and grabass all day.
>Enlisted do the grunt work and get shot at.
White collar vs. blue collar is the same.

>>50069139
>most of the office is empty with the lights off
>occasional masked and sickly wagecucks appear sulking around in the dark corridors
That’s by far the comfiest part of wagecucking. No normalfag chatter and gossips, no Mr Boomer to hover over you, just you, your pc and mp4 playlist

>>50055316
This entire post was one gigantic cope from a bitter and diluded sweat monkey. It's hilarious to think all the time you took to type it out.

i've paid off my (£50k) student loans in 3 years working in data science, cope + seethe etc

>>50054357

how the fuck have white collar workers "proven their redundancy" during covid? Lol

I had to participate in firing a guy who literally automated his own job. All of a sudden the company had a 'redundancy' for his position and let him go with a months extra salary.

I've seen alot of weird stuff in corporate but this was one of the most surreal things. Everything the guy worked on for the past year had a direct connection to his own job becoming unnecassary. Also it's kind of difficult to fire people without real reasons in my country.

>>50054448
Too true, actuaries can work anywhere.

>>50076404
>Do this
>Build in a dead man's switch
>When they call you in to fire you, demand a year's salary as severance in exchange for cutting the switch
>Become an automation consultant

>>50067378
whats your company

>>50076913
>using or threatening to use the dead man's switch will not get yourself fucked in all sorts of ways

Your company's legal team might have some improvement areas. Like your thinking though.

>>50054357
KLAUSS SAVE ME.

RESET THE CANADIANS, AMERICANS WHATEVER.

DONT TELL ME I LEARNED TO CODE FOR NOTHING

>>50054357
peter zeihan has been saving this for years, he literally wrote books on the subject

>>50064150
Chad's what?

>>50067150
EXACTLY! If you gave people UBI, they would have way too much time to think about things, or even worst become productive for themselves and not their hook-nosed corporate overlords. Bullshit jobs allow for circulation of capital to continue its motion from producer to consumer back toward producer, all while ensuring everyone still has their hands tied. I laugh when people think STEM jobs will see complete replacement, (((they))) need to make sure anyone with an IQ north of 130 is busy solving bullshit puzzles in C++, or else one might get the idea of building a car that runs on water or nano machine that targets cancer cells exclusively. CAN'T HAVE THAT!

>>50054675
bullish that these kind of brainlets are abundant in crypto. Midwit exit liquidity is the best kind of exit liquidity. I dont work a data job but i know you work some retail bs one

>>50073068
yea its just retards that love to generalize coping.
>hurr durr automation is gonna take over code monkeys' jobs
can be true for entry level cucks but in reality it just makes our jobs more efficient since "ai" still needs programmers to guide them

>>50077318
They can't force you to do anything. The point of a dead man's switch is that it activates if you don't do anything. You're not "using," you're just letting them know that they need you, actually.

Also of course you disguise it as something else. "There's an issue with the library we use so I set it up so that I have to manually do Thing or else it blows up. If I didn't set it up that way there's a chance it could have blow up silently. Anyway it needs to be done once every [longest period you would let me have off] so if you don't want to pay I sure hope you can find someone to reverse engineer it in time."

>>50078083
>anyone with an IQ north of 130
Between 110-130. Everyone with an IQ north of 130 already knows what's going on and have either carved out their own foolproof countermeasures or have fallen to despair and anxiety.

>>50073319

why even go to sit in a dark empty room?

>>50054627
>(doesn't realize the executives also do nothing all day)
I was kinda thinking of this myself. I read stuff like r/overemployed and just see all these controllers and managers bragging about how they do nothing all day.

>>50058684
>this actual nigger thinks that his concrete monkey job is a harder automation problem to solve than business related tasks
LMAO some of the blue collar cope in this thread is fucking priceless

>>50078749

You don't have to bother. The moment the system puts an extra comma somewhere the script will error out and no one will know how to fix it.

>>50056366
smart thing to have done is be employed in accounting and make the machine do the work for you.

>>50054526
you're probably a sheltered retard. but i worked retail and blue collar before being a wfh white collar wagie and i can certainly tell you that, while i do think blue collar and retail workers work harder than white collar workers, they definitely implement a lot of controls, restrictions, and methods to treat you like absolute shit and keep you disposable as a blue collar and retail worker.

>>50079601
Several reasons I can think of:
>I hate normalfags
>normalfags are allergic to darkness
>the ambient lighting and AC noise reminds me of hotel rooms
>Peace and quiet
>no normalfags

>>50072774
I keep hearing about this.
Not in an office job, but why do people try tearing others down? Doesn’t make sense.

>>50054357
I make 480k and am currently in a pool in Vegas instead of working. I did one 20 minute meeting earlier. Had a 500 dollar dinner for one last night amd had a three way with two 19 year olds. Eat a dick neets.

>>50054357
I have been saying this since covid began

your comfy WFH gig will be taken from you

>>50059566
who literally thinks "labeling data" is a permanent position

>>50055001
This, op is coping service worker.

>>50055268
Change my oil wagie kek

>>50069049

Memers also forget that one of the most important functions of accountants is to reduce fraud and keep the system even slightly honest. Automated systems are easily exploited. How are you going to automate auditors?

>>50054675
That may be the plan, but let me tell you that as long as we have pajeets programming things according to guidelines set down by groupthink MBAs there will ALWAYS be a need for manual interventions, transactions, uploads, and true-ups.
t. work in finance for a Fortune 100

Free yourself from these shackles and do what you really want to do.

>>50056945
monolithic architectures are dogshit

NEVER WORK FOR A COMPANY WITH A MONOLITHIC ARCHITECTURE

>>50083214
>How are you going to automate auditors?

the hubris in this post is palpable

I run policy orchestration at a big 4, we have already fired 1/4 of our auditing workforce and intend to continue until we have about 10% of our footprint as of 2018.

there are multiple sets of technologies converging on the audit workstream and they do work, continuous compliance is becoming more common as a business strategy

>>50055166
>electronics retard thinks he can automate devs
lemme know when you can automate the chinks checking motherboards and other electronics components

>>50078083
We saw in 2020 and 2021 the effects of giving the general public even a single penny of surplus above a paycheck-to-paycheck existence of labor
it's why we're in this mess in the first place
peasants belong in the field

>>50054357
>I predict a new wave of women wanting to be housewives now
For whom? 99% of men will be undesirable nobodies. Chad will still get pussy like always because he is 6'3, chiseled and you could land a plane on his shoulders, but if you thought the dating market is bad now you're about to see birthrates hit single-digits.

>>50067150
>This creates a new problem: if the working class (I'm defining working class as those whose income depends on their labour instead of ownership of capital) who make up the majority of people in society, are forever getting poorer then who is going to be able to afford to paid the goods and services that companies produce?

You really don't need very many people to circulate tons of money and drive an economy. I'm sorry you're discovering the middle class existing was a brief luxury, nothing more.

>>50083947
>I run policy orchestration at a big 4
yeah i actually worked at EY as an auditor. that doesn't exist and your entire post reads like a LARP written by someone with an 85 IQ. shut the fuck up, nigger retard.

>>50054357
There was some TikTok being shared that followed this 20-something tech company marketing trainee's day at work. From the orange water at the entrance to the quiet room and then the chai latte before the all hands featuring fat office ladies singing Abba songs, you have never seen such a waste of humanity doing nothing. So yes, Burry has a point. There are a lot of useless white collar workers right now.

>>50055190
>anything with 'project' in their job title
or "program"

White collar
>deal with the worst people on the planet in boring uninspiring shit job
>make decent money but get shafted after metro cost of living debt and taxes
Blue collar
>have fulfilling sometimes fun job
>make shit money and work more
Both are shit society is shit, no point in arguing

haha you know how you can short stuff if it goes down in value how can you short CS career prospects asking for a friend

>>50084808
Wow one of the lowest paying roles at the worst of the big 4. Please tell us more about your exciting career

>>50085013
>worst of the big 4
hi deloitte wagie. don't forget to do your timesheets tomorrow.

>treading water to go on living a life you don't even enjoy
i don't owe anyone anything

>>50054526
What you're saying is equivalent to: "it's not happening in front of my eyes, therefore, it's not happening."
You realize that this is 2 year old logic.

>>50084931
>no, you can't have class solidarity!
>THINK OF THE POOR WHITECOLLARINOOOOOOOOOS
>THEY HAVE TO BUY TESLASSSSSSSSSSSS

>>50085238
Everyone is basically lower class now, its just retarded people who are exceptionally lower class

>>50081176
it's mostly women who do it, not sure why. men will do it too if they're womanish in their thinking but it's not nearly as common

Lots of chudcel cope ITT. Posts these massive layoffs chuds. Prove your point.

>>50054357
https://www.tiktok.com/@natasha.badger/video/7112570003123326254?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en

>>50068851
>If you're actually in a part of the business that is making money, even if you're WFH, chances are you'll be fine.

/sales/ chads win again. The absolute STATE of codefags right now. Sales can NEVER be automated because humans choose to buy things and humans only buy off pure emotion and justify that with their "intellect" kek

t. wfh sales in tech that reduces costs + increasing bottom line revenue for SMB, MM, ENT

>>50068851
You are such a retard that China, the best performing large economy, is proving you wrong right fucking now. Go play in traffic retard, chuds will be the first on the chopping block.

>>50054357
But what if your blue collar job depends on the excess consooming of office wagies?

>>50054448
i took the accounting bachelor's pill but i remained a neet with no job experience. I haven't applied to jobs in the year and a half it's been since graduating because I'm a pussy bitch

>>50054357
Good thing I hired my boss lmfao, they're gonna have to gut my whole department to get rid of me. Stay mad cagie

why do people seethe on this board about wfh high earners? literally this board is all about neet man children who live off government money and do nothing all day. we're now supposed to believe those same people are angry someone is doing nothing all day and living off corporate money, and that's somehow worse or morally wrong? what a shitty psyop. go back to pol

>>50056171
https://twitter.com/coldhealing/status/1541826643681058817?s=20&t=VF6XdyJhN8LCdaVOpRR90Q

i too saw that video today

>>50054675

do you realize the data folks are the ones building the ai/ml, automation, and bi/analytics? moron. those jobs aren't going anywhere. their job is literally to DO the automation

>>50070068
Installing concrete is much more then just pouring, you got a robot that will dig out the ground, compact/level the sub base, do the forming, lay the rebar and work the concrete as it is being poured and then stamp it or brush it for the finish?

You are the retard, you think your faggot job staring at a computer all day can’t be automated? Lol, Chainlink btfo most office niggers. Big industries like insurance will be disrupted, accountants gone, anything that is data entry is fucked. Off chain data fed into smartcontracts that are programmed to execute certain functions based on the info that comes in, this is exactly what most white collar niggers are they just are robots that get input and based in the input execute a particular output action. You will be replaced. White collar is going to be the most disrupted sector of the 4th industrial revolution

>>50070068
Unironically cement is an incredibly difficult thing to do correctly.

>>50056459
one of the central problems in software is that the power, autonomy and pay of being a software engineer have attracted a huge share of narcissists and sociopaths who are terrible with computers, but use narcissistic social strategies to stay in their role
nothing is a more worthless bullshit job than software engineer
if times get genuinely tight, all management has to do is tell all the clients or customers or users asking for new features and bug fixes to fuck off for a year
then they can safely fire the 80% deadweight in their software departments
much of the cycle of software development is devs updating their software for compatibility with updates in third-party software packages, which were themselves pushed out to handle updates in the third-party packages' dependencies
you can't stop this cycle of retardation in a bull market, but a bear market conveniently incentivizes all developers to stop pushing out bullshit at the same time, and there go all the jobs

nobody needs those consultant bullshit jobs. They'll get purged any day

>>50073068
You're right that fintech companies aren't going to be downsizing - they're going to be closing.

>>50054357
not having to live in the city is a huge pay upgrade

>>50054562
kek linkbaggie is delusional

>>50086195
Oh no, some simp for bug people called me a retard. China's demography is fucked. Anyone with a brain can see that. I've worked with Chinks in software. Paper tiger. Zero creativity in situations they haven't seen before. To make matters worse they have the same problem as Pajeets, they just can't say 'I don't understand' and just nod. They're a slave race that's good for making cheap shit. You expect quality or just for them to give a shit? Too bad.

>>50086129
Based sales Chad.

>>50060735
>. The fact that production is moving back to tue west out of china

but it isn't.

>>50060735
At this point it's just a bunch of persons printing money and distributing it to everyone who LARPs as if they work., it doesn't matter what you do, as long as it looks as if you are actually busy you get paid.

>>50086129
>2030 you will own nothing and be happy
>thinks he can sell stuff to people
Kek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I3ibU2-CU4

>>50089592
If financial services close, banks etc then we're all pretty much fucked. it'll basically be great depression 2.0. But im sure youre rooting for that right, youre probably a broke neet anyways

>>50090024
Kek I know the Matrix is about trannies.
Muh redpill and bluepill but damn ma nigga Morpheus was right.

>>50089949
>(((Orit Dolev)))

>>50056366
Accountants only exist to sign paper so that someone could be blamed. You can't really blame computers for missing 1m dollars.

>>50059841
I am blue collar ubermensch. Robots are afraid of me for being cheaper and as efficient as them with my self made tools while hardly doing anything whole day and mostly drinking coffee. White collars are afraid of me since I fix their bad floating point math with angle grinder. Accountants are afraid of me for earning more than them despite not having a diploma.