/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50051772
>any good oracle plays or is it all about Chainlink?

>>50051828
Even if it doesn't beat out LINK there has to be a BAND like play in the pipeline, right? Oracles are too important for there to be no competition. Besides, I am getting tired of that fat fuck always dumping on me

>>50051772
ICP makes Oracles in general an unnecessary complexity in crypto infrastructure. Good luck

>>50052300
Id love a good top ten oracle index minus Link to invest in as a hedge. Will probably just buy bags of a few of them otherwise, one of them is bound to outperform link even if they are total shit in comparison. Look at all the garbage L1s that outdid Ethereum during the bull

>>50051772
SupraOracles is a serious competitor to Chainlink. Partnership with Mastercard. Could be the real deal that becomes the standard

>>50052400
This might be true, but nobody wants to buy something with such a retarded name

>>50052431
Yeah can't wait to buy my slice of the 1.3 percent of supply available to retail

>>50051772
It’s common knowledge that 90% of LINK OG’s came from /pol/, and are thus unironic Nazis and extremely racist. This is evident when you look at the chats whenever Chainlink presents at conferences such as consensus or smartcon. It’s always N word this, N word that.

I personally don’t want to put my money into a project like that and keep that sort of company. Moreover, I question the intelligence of people who shill LINK given their backwards and racist political views.

Mobius is coming up as stiff competition for LINK.

UMA is actually used and gives about a 40% apy for voting on chain. Oracles are used by across (very good layer2 bridge), polymarket (decentralized predictions markets) and others. The price action is extremely volatile too. I'd say it's undervalued.

>>50052453
Quite literally the opposite will happen because its a stupid name (See: Dogecoin)

>>50052400
Stop fucking spamming this shit ICP will need oracles for any serious apps

Kenshi has proven to be 40-374,000% faster then LINK dependent on the chain and is under 1mil MC. Kind of a no Brainerd

https://blog.kenshi.io/kenshi-vrf-40-to-infinitely-faster-than-chainlink-7856853a3ac1

>>50051772
ICP will make oracles not sneeded for some, but not all applications. How many? I have no idea.

>>50051772
Check the linkedin of linklabs devs against shit like band devs. Nuff said.

>>50053534
Offchain data will always need decentralized oracles to be secure.

Bump for interest.

>>50053589
Yes, as I said, oracles will still be sneeded for some (or many) applications in the real world. I do not think ICP will make Chainlink obsolete.

>>50051772
RLC and LINK are the only ones

privacy preserving oracles

>>50053770
>EYE SEE PEE

>>50053589
Offchain data won't be sneeded in ICP because with ICP there won't be anything OFF-chain. ICP IS THE CHAIN. IT WILL CONTAIN EVERYTHING. IT WILL CONSUME THE INTERENT WHOLE. IT IS THE INTERNET COMPUTER. BOW DOWN BEFORE THE KING YOU PUNY IMBECILES.

>>50052400
good luck making any use of offchain data, let alone permissionless use (with DECO assistance, in chainlink's case)
not to mention, good luck trying to use ICP as a collateral token to mitigate trust concerns when pre-sale buyers could still hold much of the supply

>>50054288
>aws turns off your pedo imageboard

Heh nothing personal kid.

I buy every oracle that has ever hit this board. LINK, TRB, BAND, DIA, API3, KENSHI.
just buy all of them and sell for more link

SHIT IS EZ BOYS

>>50051772
I have always loved API3 and they are steadily building to be the big daddy Oracle

>>50055028

>>50054975
Wtf is kenshi?

oohhhh linkies!
the oracle today revealed to the world the fat russian that runs this scam.
price has already tanked five percent.
once it breaks through the 4 dollar resistance the panic will begin and small holders and speculators will begin to offload, with the whales already long gone.
once it shoots through the 1$ mark, unabated fear will ripe through all linkies, with all those who dumped their current accounts into this scam twitching their fingers continuously while refreshing binance.
the 1$ mark will be met, the largest panic in history will ensue.
the final deluded nodes will begin to go offline, and wagecuckers with their engineering salaries loaded up in link will be left with it stuck in their wallet, unable to move it to binance to salvage some self-respect.
the price will tank at this point to sub 0.22c, and most probably sub i.c.o. levels.
from that day forward the stinky linkie wagecucking nerds who bought this coin thinking it had fundamentals will go back to their jobs, with no money in their current accounts, to be made redundant by the next wave of pajeets arriving to undercut their wages.
stinky linkies will hold bags forever, with no job, no money, and no crypto.
i warned you linkies. there’s still time to get out. sell now. don’t be stinky, don’t be a linkie.

>>50051772
Supra sir, much superior in times of great need and blockchain technology.

>>50055542
Drop some links for the coin pussy

>>50051772
I’m accumulating KENSHI before their computation marketplace goes live next month.

>>50052400
>>50053534
ICP!

>>50054324
> Good luck using APIs

>>50052791
> There aren't serious apps on web2

>>50054288
Lol no, we just can call the data directly from the source like it's already done in web2

>>50051772
>caring about fundamentals
NGMI anon. This is clown world, nobody ever gets rich with fundamentals. Just flip shitcoins.

>>50055779
Kenshi is the play 100% below a mil MC and what they produced is already faster then LINK? Fudders will seethe

>>50056064
This guy gets it

Jannies are deleting damaging pictures instead of whole threads now.

Nexo is insolvent I think

>>50052692
What type of dog is it this time then?

>>50052478
ywnbaw

>>50056480
Is there a reason I can't see the picture by clicking on it but can through the archive?
Did this prediction become too dangerous for the CeFi shorting addicts?

>>50057243
It's not just this picture, it's anything bullish to do with Chainlink.

Here, have another.

>>50057243
For science, let's do another.
Your move faggot jannies.
Confirm my sayings for me will ya?

>>50057326
Did someone try to report this to mods on irc?
What message do you get from jannies when they delete your pictures?

>>50057384
I haven't reported anything, nor do I get any messages. I just noticed this trend today. Deleting whole threads becoming to obvious maybe?

>>50057380
Behold.

>>50056480
repost this one

>>50057424
Do you have a thread where this happened with more examples?
Reporting it to mods would allow us to clean out the jannies finally and remove all control CeFi still have on /biz/

Can you report your deleted pictures to the mods?

>>50057487
Just tried. Says a duplicate exists. I will post a slightly edited version of it shortly.

>>50057487

>>50057583
Holy fuck they are fast lmao
I could just transcribe the whole thing, wouldn't that be fun?

>>50057510
I have to go unfortunately. Take a look around, it wasn't hard to notice

I'll make a thread about it later

>>50057635
Thank you.
A thread on this topic is a good idea after gathering enough evidence.
We can save all the post numbers and threads with these deleted pictures.
That should make it easy to report the abuse.

>>50056480
I can see it fine. Its the chainlink 2021 screencap of anon saying they will pump link after the crash and capitulation of retail.

>t. Clover phonefag

Another reason I can think of would be server issues like the server keeping these pictures dying, but I don't know how that works.

I had a strange effect in another thread of not being able to load a picture and the picture coming out later after getting an initial error.

>>50052400
I hold both.

>>50058097
Are u guys only seeing this on specific pics?

Can you see this iced out bart?

>>50058185
Yes

>>50055028
>>50055235
pfffft shrek'd & kek'd

>>50051772
The only real competitor is Pyth and that's because they are backed by Jump, a huge quant firm with ties to the Alameda mafia, except they're not a crypto native entity and it shows, their oracles aren't decentralized and have failed multiple times already, but when they will launch their own token I believe it'll become the second biggest oracle by mcap.

They have huge firms as their data providers but their architecture is retarded and they built on Solana which is a failure chain. They have the blank checks and industry cloud/connections but no in-house savoir face and poor crypto-native recognition/reputation, so while they can do well in the Sol ecosystem or other ecosystem their VCs co-own and can strong-arm VC funded projects to adopt their oracles, they'll do poorly in the wider ecosystem. It's such an artificial and astroturfed and cutthroat project whereas Link is succeeding organically, by putting security above all else, remaining truly neutral and not diverting focus.

Same logic, they saw Link was building CCIP so they just bought out a centralized bridge (Wormhole) and their plan is to somehow stitch Pyth and Wormhole together despite centralized and different architectures, whereas CCIP has been logically designed to fit with the wider Chainlink architecture, it shows they're just aggressively funding and rushing poorly thought out solutions to market, and I think it shows their general weakness, while Jump is still printing shitloads through their quant operations, Wormhole massively fucked up and they had to bail it out for hundreds of millions in losses, and they were also huge backers of Terra which blew up in their faces.

While the Pyth team is still clearly incompetent and if it does a token it'll blatantly be a VC scam to fuck retail over it's backed by legit serious money makers, while other crypto-native oracles are pure amateur hour which is why Chailink dominated with zero competition. Everything else is a joke.

>>50058185
Centralized servers failing. ICP solves this.

>>50058646
That will be fun to short to 0 when it will generate the next Luna implosion through their hacked bridge.

>>50057604
Can you start a thread on /qa/ with this issue and try to message another mod on irc?
I sent a message to a mod on irc but don't know when I will get an answer.

It's happening in these 3 threads:
50056276 50051772 50046784

You can also show them this tx from Celsius depositing 1 million LINK on FTX during the announcement of Robinhood.
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x78443b3e3a03c27ddd2b3ab0790755fc66ceb2a2d3692cd233b722b92ea740d5

What's the fastest way to reach a mod?
We really need a way to get someone with the ability to quickly reach out to mods to solve these issues.
They removed the janitors abusing their powers last year, so they should have learned of this issue.

>>50051772

KENSHI is the most undervalued oracle play rn but small penis biz wouldn't understand

>>50051828
Anybody know the original video this is from? I remember watching it when it happened but Sergey/link has so many fucking videos since then I have no idea what it was. I wanna hear what the chick says again. Or if you know that could you just tell me?

>>50055901
and how do you identify faults in [aggregated] API data, and then punish just one API provider whose data is bad
if adapters are needed to make API or other website data useful, how do you incentivize the creation and upkeep of those adapters
how do users ensure that developers have ensured that risk does not fall on the protocol in the form of an alterable API
the "singular point of failure" concern that comes with APIs does not just go away, strictly because some very valuable data currently isn't trustlessly quantified at its source; capitulating to that standard isn't something you have to do

even private data, i.e. data with signatures and deal disclosures that only one entity currently has access to, will eventually *have* to be open to reading and verification by parties on-request, even if just to nodes that access this data with any risks that might cause it to leak unencrypted eliminated; major institutions will want this, to verify that any other major institutions they're dealing with aren't explicitly eliciting power over them though lying about their holdings
even just having a limited number of major institutions viewing and verifying the correctness of one-another's trustlessly-collected data isn't enough to protect against a totally corrupt industry, though, and so more nodes (neet nodes, even) are needed to collect and verify the same data
are businesses going to fear theft from their peers? yes, and they have every reason to. in the grand scheme of things, you have no idea how small the importance of your interests are on an international stage; it falls on you to further and defend them.

tl;dr the entire concept of the API has to be re-though, and chainlink is the only viable candidate doing work that can address this
everyone else is effectively in the same place of complacency to the problem of data providers having access to data before it's published in an API

>>50060870

Based Shitcoinoor, this shit is going 100x