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49996390 No.49996390 [Reply] [Original]

Henlo frens. Ever wondered why LINK just keeps non-stop dumping over the last days? Dont worry, in this thread I explain to you what is going on.

In case you missed it, nearly 4 days ago the Harmony Horizon Bridge was haxxored.
https://governance.aave.com/t/harmony-horizon-bridge-exploit-consequences-to-aave-v3-harmony/8614
That resulted in some positions on AAVE being undercollateralized (eg 1USDC). Now AAVE assumes a 1:1 backing, so they report the collateral value (determined by Chainlink oracles) as the value of the position. You see where we are heading right? Suddenly positions with 1USDC, because Chainlink reports it has much less collateral, are assessed as being worth less than market value.
Now, on top of the missing collateral, the only logical thing happens: Arbitragers enter the game and deposit 1USDC (assessed by AAVE at below market price), and borrow assets that were not affected by the Horizon Bridge Exploit, in particular $LINK and $ONE token.
And apparently just not AAVE, but also other vendors are affected by this
>"In the mid term, we are researching into switching from our current ChainLink oracles to our previous onchain TWAP oracles, so prices can be accurate again allowing us to re-enable the borrow functionality."

See why the LINK price is doomping now? Because the arbitrageurs market-sell their arbed $LINK- and $ONE-tokens.

>> No.49996423

>>49996390
>>"In the mid term, we are researching into switching from our current ChainLink oracles to our previous onchain TWAP oracles, so prices can be accurate again allowing us to re-enable the borrow functionality."
ctrl f 0 did u just make that quote up

>> No.49996449

>>49996390
b-but crypto was supposed to be unhackable money of the future and it seems this shit gets hack atleast once a week

>> No.49996461

>>49996423
Sorry frens, the board didn't let me post all links I wanted! I blame the board!
>"In the mid term, we are researching into switching from our current ChainLink oracles to our previous onchain TWAP oracles, so prices can be accurate again allowing us to re-enable the borrow functionality."

https://twitter.com/tranquil_fi/status/1541106545999880192

>> No.49996471

>>49996461
these tards not learned anything from all the twap flash loans exploits?

>> No.49996483

Ooo fuck gois I bedder sewll now

>> No.49996503

>>49996390
>Ever wondered why LINK just keeps non-stop dumping over the last days?
>The total market size of Aave V3 Harmony is ~$3’100’000 of which ~$1’560’000 is borrowed out.
>$438’000 of ONE+LINK has been borrowed out after the attack.
wait, you want to tell me that $400k of LINK on one shitchain has been keeping the price down for days?

>> No.49996504

Nice job creating head cannon.
Everything dumped yesterday.

This is one single app swapping their oracle for the mid term because their own faulty code cause an issue in the wider ecosystem. Chainlink did what it was supposed to, but the exploit fucked over this app due to its own code in a way that made it incompatible with chainlink.

Try again retard.

>> No.49996505

>Twitter attention whore thread
go back

>> No.49996522

>>49996461
>/twitter.com/
Nigger seriously? Fucking kys. Go back.

>> No.49996535

>>49996504
no it was because of bridge hack
and tranquil didnt lose anything they paused their protocol
its aave that got affected

>> No.49996571

>>49996390
price target?

>> No.49996821

>>49996390
Henlo

>> No.49996840

>>49996390
>henlo
>frens
really organic fud bulgarian tranny

>> No.49996965

>>49996390
> so prices can be accurate again
Why did CL (allegedly) report the wrong price? where was the problem?

>> No.49997020

>>49996522
Cope. Every bit of crypto news posted to this imageboard comes from twitter

>> No.49997021

>>49996965
A badly written bridge on a ghost chain got hacked that dumped the on chain price of 1 USDC to 30cents. Other fags bought the 30cent USDC on harmony and deposited it onto aave where it was worth 1USD. They used this cheap usdc as colleteral to borrow the shitcoin ONE and then dumped it. LINK reported the price as 1USDC = 1$ even though it rugged

>> No.49997028

>>49997020
go back. There is no demand for marketing shit and attention whore niggers on here

>> No.49997034

>>49996965
Well it's reporting the right price for usdc etc for the wider market, but technically the harmony usdc is essentially worth $0 so it is reporting the wrong price

>> No.49997074

>>49997028
Retard
>>49996522
Retard
>>49996390
Good post op. This is relevant discussion. Wonder if we could get a response from the team on this.

>> No.49997129

>>49996504
>Chainlink did what it was supposed to
No, it really didn't.
There was a massive amount of volume onchain with the liquidity pairs. They clearly depegged with millions upon millions dollars of volume across dozens of pairs.
Chainlink apparently either does not report that, or does not weigh it enough to consider it worth changing the price. Either way, it clearly failed hard here. There's really no arguing it.
Aave has a massive amount of bad debt now due to oracle failure.
Tranquil noticed the Chainlink failure very early and paused their borrows. Lucky for them. Now they are looking at alternative oracle methods because Chainlink just literally straight up doesn't work now on Harmony. Not just a hiccup, but total and complete failure for days now with no sign of any resolution. It simply does not seem to work properly in a cross-chain world.
This is not the first time. This has happened multiple times now. Luna was just the beginning of Chainlink causing various lending protocols that rely on it millions in losses(Venus and others). And there's no indication that it can be relied on outside of Eth.
It's irresponsible for them to even offer it.
They should be sued for damages if possible.
>one single app
lmao it's fucking AAVE. And it's only the most high profile in a string of recent casualties due to full stop Chainlink oracle failure not reporting the price. You have ONE job.
>he exploit fucked over this app due to its own code in a way that made it incompatible with chainlink
It's own code? It just takes the price from Chainlink. Aave does that. It's not "incompatible".
It just needed the fucking price.
When there was millions of stables being swapped on Sushi you'd think a fucking price oracle would consider that and update the price to stop the protocol from losing millions? What is it's job?

>> No.49997155

>>49997074
Lmao Bulgarian Nexo pondscum doing everything to fud LINKies because they exposed and killed their gypsy charade!

>> No.49997184

fuck this fucky situation its water under the fridge tonight i am getting drunk as fuck

DRUNK AS FUCK

drunk as fuck

drunk as fuck

https://youtu.be/XM-7JOeC4ko

>> No.49997190

>>49997129
>No, it really didn't.
Post proof that AAVE even had an oracle specific for wrapped-assets on Harmony, or fuck off.

>> No.49997208

>>49997129
what should chainlink report then? If it only looks at on-chain price, it's susceptible to exploits using flashloans and similar mechanisms.

>> No.49997215

>>49997190
Why do you believe is Tranquil pulling out then?

>> No.49997219

Nexo is the best option, compared to the others, it's stable in times like these.

>> No.49997225

>>49997184
fuck off mr stupidy head thinks hes captain of the shit liner and by the way your fish sticks suck so fuck off

>> No.49997238

>>49997215
Nice english kek

>> No.49997249

Typical larp just can’t help himself he wants to talk about link so bad

>> No.49997266

>>49997238
let me try again then
why do you think they are choosing to ditch Chainlink oracles?

>> No.49997278

>>49997021
This shit makes me so bearish on ccip

>> No.49997306

>>49997215
Not even sure what you're asking but my guess?:
>Tranquil is a harmony-native lending protocol and had harmony-wrapped-asset oracles. So they were okay.
>AAVE isn't harmony-native and didn't add harmony-wrapped-asset oracles to their contracts. So they got fucked.
What we should take from this is that AAVE should add chainlink oracles specific to every chain they operate on. They were careless. Not chainlink's fault.

>> No.49997347

>>49997306
Yeah they talking about adding proof of reserves in the aave discussion linked.

>> No.49997365

>>49997190
>>49997208
The assets are unique Harmony issued assets, ie 1USDC, 1ETH, 1USDT etc, not issued officially by Circle or Tether.
So if the oracle is not reporting the price of these specific assets, then why is Chainlink even offering it in that context?
If your saying it's Aave's fault for using Chainlink here then I agree desu.
The thing is these assets only exist on chain in one form. There's no off chain price source for them. So if there's currently no secure way to solve the issue of price oracles for an asset that's only on chain, that's fine too. Everyone shares responsibility here for both offering and using a service that isn't secure and doesn't actually work(yet?).
Ironically it's only Aave afaik that offers flashloans on Harmony, so they could just disable those related functions too. But that's kind of beside the point for now. But that does mean it might be an issue for Tranquil if they switch to TWAP oracles.

>> No.49997374

>>49997306
>https://twitter.com/tranquil_fi/status/1541106545999880192
They're explicitly stating they're looking for ways to ditch their Chainlink oracles, why would they do that?

>> No.49997401

>>49997306
I think they both have the exact same Chainlink oracles. Tranquil is in a failed state right now too with mispriced oracles.
The only reason Tranquil didn't get drained like Aave is that they were on the ball and paused borrowing early. But the whole system is still fucked up and has been for days now since the oracles are still reporting the wrong prices.
Which is why they are looking into switching oracles. Which may or may not be viable.

>> No.49997405

>>49997129
gypsy seethe

>> No.49997432

Remember when Link wrongly priced gold as silver and everyone got wrecked

>> No.49997467

>>49996390
Frens - back from the GYM. Im not fudding LINK. Quite the opposite

First, I simply explained what caused the DUMP in the last days. Pure, unadultered dumping of arbed Chainlink Tokens (same for ONE). Maybe was only $400k as >>49996503 claims - I DOUBT! Anyways, if anything still bullish as its just an unnatural market movement that maybe will even be reversed complettely if AAVE/Harmony fills up their LINK/ONE wallets again (AAVE takes the L here).
Second, its not really Chainlink that reports a wrong price, even though this is insinuated somewhere. Its actually the right price, except the way AAVE implemented is was with a lot of caveats and assumptions that didn't turn out to to hold in all circumstances.

>>49997021 seems to have a better understanding what exactly happened. Plx elaborate fren - I just wanted to KICKSTART this discussion as no one talked about it here!

>> No.49997488

>>49997021
>A badly written bridge on a ghost chain got hacked
how?

>> No.49997508

>>49997467
2 q's I'd love to have answered.
Do you believe in oracles at all?
Do you think Link is the best one/more long lasting ATM?

>> No.49997516

>>49997488
Had nothing to do with how the bridge was written.
They had two keys compromised which was sufficient for the multisig.
Quite possibly inside job. Maybe sophisticated trad hack.

>> No.49997518

>>49997365

Like i said niggger, its a problem with the app.

You try to use chainlink to make water bull cheaper its not going to work either because you are using the wrong fucking thing for the job and it was not meant to work for that.

Chainlink node operators provide a service anyone who requests it and will pay for it. Its not their fault whatever they use is fundamental incompatible with their app.

As you described there is only one possible source of data for that item. Its not Chainlinks fault. Chainlink doesnt fucking fix the nature of the universe you idiot.

Anyone who would use a contract based upon an oracle which has one data source(anyone can see that) and put money into that system/build with it is the retard. It seems people haven’t done enough due diligence.

Chainlink node operators reported the correct price from the source. No failure. The failure is the retards (and maybe aave own oversights) on using a dapp that take data from one source. The node operators dont care if they get paid and report the correct price from their sources which they did.

The arbitrage incident is all a oversight and problem from the dapp builders and users from knowingly using a one possible source of data for their oracle.

>> No.49997556

I'm getting tired of you niggers not being able to provide a coherent answer in this very simple and straightforward question:
If the Chainlink oracles functioned as intended, why are these Tranquil Finance retards opting to replace them?

>> No.49997571

>>49997508
>Do you believe in oracles at all?
Yes - the importance of oracles is not even understood yet by a majority in the market.
> Do you think Link is the best one/more long lasting ATM?
LINK is by far the best managed/professional crypto project of that size, both technically and business-wise. I see very few other on that level, on a much smaller scale, i.e. much easier, maybe Arbitrum (technically) or Aztec Network (business-wise).
There are lots of aspects the market and maybe the Chainlink team havent understood yet, eg that with their position in the market they could be the Amazon/Google of market data, a global market place to buy/sell or search data.

>> No.49997578

>>49997556
chainlink is a fat russian man I
have been saying this for years nigger

>> No.49997582

>>49997556

Because they realised that their entire project is flawed and using chainlink was never going to magically solve it.

When your only possible data source is yourself, and your app interacts with complex off chain(other chain) environments, it was a disaster waiting to happen. Both AAVE and tranquillity fucked up here.

They are looking for an alternative for Chainlink because they realised their project is incompatible with it. Not in anyway did Chainlink malfunction. Their project did.

>> No.49997583

>>49997374

Because chainlink is shit

>> No.49997594

>>49997583
this. fuck that guy chainlink right in his pretty little twink ass

>> No.49997600

>>49997582
>their project is incompatible with Chainlink
this is the first time I've heard of this, how is that even possible? Isn't Chainlink designed to work with every protocol/blockchain/L2?
How could it possibly be "incompatible" with something, and what does that mean for the rest of the projects already using Chainlink?

>> No.49997619

L-LINK BROS
WE WERE THE CHOSEN ONES

>> No.49997644

>>49997619
nope. fuck chainlink in his tight little twink ass

>> No.49997656

>>49997518
It's not one data source though. There's tons of pairs across many dexes.
There's also various unofficial non-Harmony bridges that value the tokens at various rates.
They did not report the price of the 1assets. If they don't track the price of those assets, why offer the service at all? It's not like people are bootlegging Chainlink here. They officially partnered up with Harmony and it took forever for them to offer it. But in the end they didn't actually do their job by tracking the asset their offering the service for.
They didn't track the correct price of the 1assets at all. It's both the fault of Chainlink for offering an oracle for them without actually tracking the actual data sources where the price is derived for them, and also the fault of any app that doesn't due their due diligence to see that what they're using isn't what it seems.
A real world example would be like Chainlink offering an oracle service for the Hong Kong Dollar for people in Hong Kong but getting their price data from the US and ignoring local rates and assuming it's always 7.75:1.
Yeah, if I use Chainlink and end up buying HKD for more than it's worth it's my fault for using it and not knowing they don't actually track it. But it's also their fault for offering the service as something that it isn't.
If you can't do multichain, then don't. It's not
like these services are using some link feed from eth and not using it as it was intended. Chainlink specifically launched on Harmony back in like Nov/Dec.

>> No.49997667

>Chainlink can't report the right price
>Project now looking for alternative.

LINKIES: THIS PROJECT HAS SHITTY PROTOCOL THAT IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH CHAINLINK.

Fuck linkies really
DELUSIONAL faggot

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49997687

>>49997667
This day is a good one because of seething linkies.

>> No.49997691

The problem with link is that it's just a price aggregator not some magic truth machine. Practically speaking, it does the same as a centralized price aggregator api.
Don't @ me with
>muh decentralization
please.

>> No.49997710

>>49997687
this. fucking based and redpilled filenames. i want to be in YOUR discord group ok;lg fellow delphi fudder :^)

>> No.49997723
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49997723

>>49997710
There is no need to be upset

>> No.49997733

>>49997600

You’ll start seeing it more often as retards blindly build shitty apps with extremely common oracle standard(Chainlink) without understanding it.

Same as retards using AWS incorrectly. The more successful something becomes the more often retards will come and copy paste code it without understanding anything.

As said, Chainlink worked correctly. The node operators reported the correct price from the data sources they were given. Just because the devs of the dapp were too stupid to see how that may cause an issue one day with bridged assets it not on the DONs shoulders its on theirs.

This is why it’s important to build you’re app carefully. Anyone who used the app without reviewing their dons data source is at fault too. Viewing any dapps Chainlink don data source points will be very common due diligence in the future and a few of us have been saying this for some time. This is a natural progression. As project becomes successful, the retards come to copy paste the solution.

>> No.49997735

>>49997723
BASED let me post that again

>> No.49997739

>>49996390
In case you wonder:

The loot from the Harmony Horizon Bridge is just being laundered through Tornado Cash as we speak:

Loot:
https://etherscan.io/address/0x0d043128146654c7683fbf30ac98d7b2285ded00
Laundry:
https://etherscan.io/address/0x432a9cb4353bed67ec5351734d4a44c0826847ae

>> No.49997747

>>49997723
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>> No.49997760

Chainlink

>Token price dumps the most and pumps the least in both Bullard bear market
>Oracles reported incorrect price data
>Sergey dumping token on open market
>Linkies spreading about "muh nexo chainlink short squeeze" to pump their bag temporarily, but the squeeze didn't happen at all and the meager gains were gone now as it started dumping again.

Fucking linkies.
trashing about other projects won't pump your shitty useless token

>> No.49997763

>>49997656

Then its the devs fault for not requesting their don use them.

As said, custom dons are built with the devs of an app. When they created it they either didnt foresee future developments at the time, or just didnt even realise why giving their don node operators one data source was a bad idea.

Maybe they thought it was risky to the base chain to use data sources off chain at the time. Either way it doesnt matter. The devs made mistakes, and the users didnt review data soruces. This as explained above will become standard due diligence in smart contracts soon.

Chainlink is a custom framework. Not a magical solution. It requires planning and development like any tool.

>> No.49997769

>>49997760
this. FUCK CHAINSHIT and praise NEXO CELSIUS AND BLOCKFI ALSO

I LOVE SAM BANKMAN KIKE

>> No.49997779

>>49997656

Again. You dont blame microsoft when you use your laptop with windows installed to hammer in a nail and it doesnt work. Extreme example, but point stands.

Chainlink don likely could have worked in this situation but the devs didnt bother to do it properly.

>> No.49997799

>>49997779
what blind fud! Chainlink orca whales are the best way to philosophize with a hammer

simply configure the jason.parser into hammer.mode find a nail and hey presto in goes.

no other jason.parser guarantees nails hit on their head

>> No.49997821

>>49996449
code is law
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.49997844

I bought my LINK like 4 years ago and it's still sitting on myetherwallet. Has there been a chain migration or something already, should I be swapping my erc linkies into an onchain version of the token? Haven't really been following anything crypto related recently

>> No.49997898

HOLY FUCK I FUCKING HATE CHAINSHIT SHIT TO FUCKING DEATH OF THEIR NONSTOP THREADS AND NOW THERE IS THIS LIKE DISHONEST FUD THREAD AND IT MAKES ME SEETH SO FUCKING MUCH REEEEEEEEE FUCK CHAINLINK

>> No.49997945

OH MY FUCKING GOD JESUS CHRIST CHAINSHIT JUST SENDS ME INTO A RAGE FUDAMENTALLY REEEEEEEE

>> No.49998033

>>49997467
>Maybe was only $400k as >>49996503(You) claims - I DOUBT!
Well I didn't pull that number out of my ass. I quoted the link you provided on aave governance board. AAVE claims there was only ~$400k link and one borrowed after the exploit.
Either way they stopped the borrowing, so they have time to see if Harmony will cover the cost or they will have to, but the users probably won't lose their money.

my point was that this bad price action couldn't have been due to dumping link on a shitchain with limited liquidity. If the users can bridge the link back to other chains, somebody would arb such a small volume. If they can't, then the bad link price would remain on Harmony and it wouldn't affect the wider market.

>> No.49998050

>>49997779
I do blame microsoft for windows updates breaking the system every fucking time, I do blame microsoft if the OS fails to work due to incompatibility with my custom hardware, this shit is supposed to work with everything
>plug n play
>>49997733
your reasoning falls short when you realize that Chainlink is supposed to provide support and guidance to integrated protocols regarding their services

>> No.49998065

>>49998050
They have over 1000 integrations. You can’t reasonably expect them to hand hold every retard

>> No.49998095

>>49996965
small json parsing issue. it's a complicated format.

>> No.49998198

>>49997432
You mean when a retard using Chainlink contracts mistyped Ag for Au? Chainlink really fucked everyone over on that one huh fellow critic.

>>49998050
This is not how any software company operates. You can try and try to make everything retard proof, but retards WILL find ways to break it. It's just the way it is. Chainlink provides documentation, tutorials and support. Their obligation ends there. You expect them to vet, audit and re-architect every integration that uses their services? That is bullshit and you know it.

>> No.49998246

>>49998065
I can and I do if their ambition is truly to become the "industry standard"
>huurrr industry is full of retards
then it should be as retard proof as it can possibly be
>>49998198
instead of associating and promoting every shady shitty protocol in the space, they should HAND PICK their integrations, just like they hand pick the nodes
also yes, Microsoft is obligated to make sure their software runs on everything regardless of hardware

>> No.49998278

>>49997760
>>Oracles reported incorrect price data
Never happened, ever.

Contrary to literally every other oracle.

>> No.49998397

>>49998246
You have no clue what you are talking about and it shows.
>they should HAND PICK their integrations
Yes, because this is how you grow out an eco system. Restrict people from building on it.
>also yes, Microsoft is obligated to make sure their software runs on everything regardless of hardware
Your Microsoft analogy sucks ass and makes it obvious you are not from a tech background. Does Microsoft have an obligation to make sure Windows runs on Apple products? Or Android systems? No. Microsoft builds Windows to be compatible with certain processor architecture, and drivers are there to make sure other hardware can interface with the OS.

If you are intent on shoehorning this analogy in then let me turn it around on you: LINK is the OS and devs can write their own drivers (integrations) to hook their hardware (their own projects) into the OS. If nVidia writes a shitty driver that crashes everyone's games (AGAIN), would you blame Microsoft?

>> No.49998406

>>49997215
> Why do you believe is Tranquil pulling out then?
Is there an air of slight panic around Sofia at the moment?

>> No.49998408

Chainlink Anti-Fraud network fixes this. Never use the total market price oracle when your fraud detection relies on monitoring only a portion of total market volume.

>> No.49998437

>>49998246
>instead of associating and promoting every shady shitty protocol in the space, they should HAND PICK their integrations
They hand pick the actual network participants and you fudders can't stop whining about that lol.

Who the fuck cares if scammers USE Chainlink. Scammers use literally everything.

>> No.49998439

>>49996390
It’s common knowledge that 90% of LINK OG’s came from /pol/, and are thus unironic Nazis and extremely racist. This is evident when you look at the chats whenever Chainlink presents at conferences such as consensus or smartcon. It’s always N word this, N word that.

I personally don’t want to put my money into a project like that and keep that sort of company. Moreover, I question the intelligence of people who shill LINK given their backwards and racist political views.

>> No.49998441

>>49998406

Why this blind angry at nexo?

>> No.49998448

I will be So happy when all these delusional stinkers kill themselves when link drops under a dollar. You subhumans are the worst cancer of this board.

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49998467

>>49998448
Pretty sure the antilinkers are much worse.

>> No.49998503

>>49997667
Most stupid shit I've read. Bulgarian confirmed

>> No.49998541

>>49998467
they are obviously just doing the needful to rid the board of the stinker plague. Filtering link threads would be too much hassle

>> No.49998547

next level of cope linkies this is pretty sad

>> No.49998568

>>49997667
>>Chainlink can't report the right price
Chainlink did report the right price lol
Aave says so itself: "As expected after our validations, Chainlink has confirmed that their oracle has been working as expected."

>>Project now looking for alternative.
On the contrary, Aave's solution is to incorporate MORE Chainlink services, specifically proof of reserve: "Integration of Chainlink’s Proof-of-Reserve for bridged assets"

>> No.49998585

>>49998541
>become an actual plague to get rid of an imaginary plague
This is like Disney injecting gays and non-whites into their movies to piss off white people, but then getting their movies banned exclusively in non-white countries.

>> No.49998697

>>49998397
what good is an ecosystem full of unreliable and vaporware protocols that don't even function at a basic level? and why doesn't that apply to NODES? your reasoning is completely flawed
>le microsoft analogy
I did not use that analogy in the first place, you guys did
>le Tranquil Finance is apple my guy
then it would be Chainlink's obligation to make sure they inform them that they could be potentially incompatible
You truly have no idea what you're talking about
> If nVidia writes a shitty driver that crashes everyone's games (AGAIN), would you blame Microsoft?
both them AND microsoft, yes
you're only embarrasing yourself right now, just stop
there is no way you're going to convince me that Chainlink has done everything correctly here, they claimed to be compatible with everything and they openly encouraging other protocols to integrate their services
>>49998437
>they hand pick the actual network participants
do you retards understand what an "ecosystem" means? it's component is vital for the entire system, nodes being whitelisted means nothing if the underlying protocols/users/blockchains are unusable vaporware ponzis, one negates the other

>> No.49998704

DR;NS

>> No.49998850

>>49998697
>hurrr all of defi is unusable vaporware ponzis
Thank you for this valuable input, anon.

>> No.49998860

>>49998697
>I did not use that analogy in the first place, you guys did
That anon used it in a completely different, hyperbolic context. Using a laptop as a hammer and then blaming the software for it not working well. You butchered the analogy into a tech layman's understanding of software:
>I do blame microsoft if the OS fails to work due to incompatibility with my custom hardware, this shit is supposed to work with everything
It is IMPOSSIBLE for Microsoft to keep track of every pajeet USB drive, specialized video capturing hardware, audiophile soundcard and DYI stuff. The manufacturers of those pieces of hardware look at Microsoft's documentation and write drivers to get their hardware to work with Windows. Microsoft does NOT go over every hardware device known to man to check whether the dev implemented it right, and then correct it for them if they didn't. It just doesn't work that way.

The company I work at fields multiple APIs. We have extensive documentation and tutorials on how to implement our API. You know how many times we get calls by companies, trying to shift blame on us when they fuck up? And do you know how many times it actually turns out to be our fault? I'll let you take a guess. Offering a framework, an OS, an API, a network, a solution, whatever the fuck, does not obligate you into making sure your users use it correct 100% of the time. Suggesting otherwise betrays extreme ignorance on your part in this matter, and leaves no doubt that you also lack the ability to correctly judge Chainlink's responsibilities in the situation at hand.

>> No.49998900

>>49998697

Cringe

>> No.49998955

>>49998697
>you're only embarrasing yourself right now, just stop
lmao... that guy might as well have fucked your bussy in front of your gf; would have been less embarrassing than the beatdown you just received

>> No.49998986

>>49996461
That's not AAVE.
Just some literally who copy and paste pajeetery.

>> No.49998993

>>49998697

This.
When chainlink is only useful for enabling ponzinomics its as useful as ethereum.

>> No.49999025

>>49997600
The price of the assets was reported correctly by Chainlink.
The problem was that the RESERVES were changed, so the wrapped assets were no longer backed one-to-one.

So the mistake here was the reserves were not being monitored by Aave or Tranquil.
This is why Aave is about to implement proof of reserve.

Tranquil on the other hand is clueless.

>> No.49999075

>>49998860
>of every pajeet USB drive
>nVidia is akin to some no name pajeet USB drive
you're purposefully ignoring the core of my argument and you're engaging in retarded semantics, BOTH Microsoft AND nVidia are liable for their products to work and compliment with each other

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>>49999075
See pic related.
Chainlink does everything it reasonably can to inform its users; but in the end the responsibility is with the user, not Chainlink.

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49999194

>>49998860
Fuck off Sergey

>> No.49999233

>>49999075
>Microsoft AND nVidia are liable for their products to work and compliment with each other
Neither is liable for you misusing their shit, retard.

>> No.49999239

>>49998900
And yet you cannot address that post

Cope and seeth linkies

>> No.49999518

>>49999233
supposedly the issue with Tranquil is one of total incompatibility, they shouldn't have even integrated with them in the first place.
>>49999233
follow the thread retard

>> No.49999534

>>49999518
meant for>>49999088

>> No.49999591

>>49999075
>>nVidia is akin to some no name pajeet USB drive
I never said that. If we're playing semantics however, Tranquil is more on par with a pajeet USB drive than nVidia so the point stands.
>you're purposefully ignoring the core of my argument
The jew cries in pain as he strikes you.
>BOTH Microsoft AND nVidia are liable for their products to work and compliment with each other
Yes. Which is why Microsoft provides documentation and support and nVidia tries to create drivers that are as stable as possible and optimized for each new game. They both have their domains and will not overstep those boundaries. Microsoft does not write, audit or structure code for nVidia or any other 3rd party that wants to run specialized hardware on Windows (for which Windows doesn't have a built-in driver). I'm not ignoring your core argument, you're just not grasping why my explanation renders your argument moot.

>> No.49999597

>>49996449
Because every "developer" is just a glorified assembly line worker.

>> No.49999664

>>49999591
I'm not advocating for Chainlink to write, audit or structure code for Tranquil, all I'm saying is that Chainlink should stop integrating with every shitty protocol under the sun, just like how Microsoft does not officially support older hardware/ARM/ Apple/Android products, and they're not ACTIVELY ENCOURAGING these companies to integrate their broken monopolistic OS
my argument is plain and simple, really, if some retard no name faggot chooses to wrongfully integrate and adopt your shit, you should and the very least inform the retard that it's impossible for him, thanks to his shitty code/incompetence
that is EVEN more important in an emerging space full of scams, where reputation is of UTMOST importance

>> No.49999681

>>49999518
>follow the thread retard
I did, you dumbass. It’s about misusing a product.

>> No.49999692

>>49999681
cool thanks for your inputs then

>> No.49999725

>>49999664
>Chainlink should stop integrating with every shitty protocol under the sun
in the very same way Chainlink already picks and chooses who becomes a node operator, I mean they're already doing what I'm proposing for fucks sake, and node operators are EQUALLY important with the protocols using Chainlink technology
it's THAT fucking simple

>> No.49999748

>>49999518
>supposedly the issue with Tranquil is one of total incompatibility
A wrapped asset only has value if it's backed 1-to-1 by the original asset.
Using a price feed that only looks at the original asset is therefore inappropriate for tracking the price of a wrapped asset.

>> No.49999753

>>49999664

You’re cringe mate.
You’re like that autistic kid at school who never knew when to shit up when he wars clearly wrong and just kept going on out of embarrassment on the inside.

He’s ripped you a new asshole and you are down to spewing shit like “well the internet should stop letting those criminals online”.

Fucking hell bro. The most cringe show of being BTFO i have seen for a long time

>> No.49999774

>>49999748
????
>>49999753
thanks you too mate

>> No.49999790

>>49999774
>????
lol

>> No.49999825

>>49999790
>>49997656
read and come back at me when you're done

>> No.49999855

>>49999825
That post shows exactly what I'm saying, except that poster doesn't know the difference between the price of the original asset and the price of the wrapped asset.

Read: https://governance.aave.com/t/harmony-horizon-bridge-exploit-consequences-to-aave-v3-harmony/8614

>> No.49999913

>>49999855
>Modification of oracles pool-wide. This would be executed by forcing a “real” price of unbacked assets on the price feeds, via Chainlink or not. At the moment, the real price of the assets, as there is barely backing, is close to 0. Given that is not really possible to understand if the situation is permanent or not, this is a really extreme measure that actually will not help the pool: almost all positions would get instantaneously liquidated, but liquidators will probably not act, as collateral would not be liquid. Given the potential complexity of this, probably not advisable.
just out of curiosity, what exactly do you make out of this sentence right there?

>> No.49999953

>>49999913
>This would be executed by forcing a “real” price of unbacked assets on the price feeds
This refers to tracking the price of the wrapped asset, instead of just looking at the price of the original asset and assuming both are the same.

Exactly like I said.

>> No.49999965

>>49999913
>For potential Action 1, why couldn’t the real price of assets be reflected among the whole Harmony ecosystem such DEXs but just relied on Chainlink oracle?

>How will Proof of Reserve help the situation?

>> No.50000024

>>49999664
>all I'm saying is that Chainlink should stop integrating with every shitty protocol under the sun
You seem to take the stance that Chainlink should either provide better support and guidance, or restrict who can use the protocol: >>49998246
Chainlink is already doing option 1 to a more than reasonable degree on par with tech giants like Microsoft and Amazon. Option 2 is not feasible because it is not how you grow a network, especially in a decentralized space. Imagine if ETH restricted who could mint tokens in 2017. Sure, it would have prevented a lot of scams and helped the legitimacy of the space, but I would wager my left nut that ETH would have never taken off like it did, had they gone this way.

>>49999725
>in the very same way Chainlink already picks and chooses who becomes a node operator, I mean they're already doing what I'm proposing for fucks sake,
This is not the same at all. Restricting who can PROVIDE information is a very straightforward move when staking, node reputation and slashing are not implemented yet. How many nodes do we need to provide price feeds? (Hint: it's not that many) How many projects can potentially benefit from price feeds? (Hint: it's like a sideways 8) If you can't see the glaring asymmetry here, and can't deduce the reason Chainlink opted for handpicked nodes and not handpicked users, it's over for you. You might as well stop trying to wrap your head around it because you will never get it.

>> No.50000069

>>49999965
Both of these statements are from another person who does not understand what happened, even though it's explained extremely clearly by Aave.

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50000110

>>49996390
I can smell the bulgarian paid shills' desperation as the LINK liquidity slowly goes away and they realize they will never be able to buy back the 10+ million tokens they dumped with their CeFi partners in crime on the market in the past weeks.
Oh and I almost forgot the 200k haircut on Bancor!

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>>49997898

>> No.50000179

>>50000110
Is it really 10M? Is there anyone tracking this publicly?

>> No.50000201

>>50000024
>especially in a decentralized space
see, this is my main issue with this entire charade right there, there is no "decentralization" in this space, and Chainlink hand picking the nodes is a testament to that irrefutable fact
if they're going to act like a traditional centralized company, why not go all the way? actual decentralization is so far away it might as well just not exist
>and not handpicked users
so essentially you're advocating that allowing scammers to use your services and providing bad feeds, engaging in shady practices and potentially fucking up the entire "decentralized" ecosystem and tarnishing your product's reputation is actually good practice
tell me anon, do banks cooperate with anybody who steps at their doorstep? does microsoft accept to support every pajeet out there?
are you even listening to yourself?

>> No.50000212

>>50000110
>Nexo is shorting Link
>also, Nexo is paying people to shill Link

The mind of a fudder.

>> No.50000231

>>50000201
you:
>Chainlink handpicking nodes is bad

also you:
>Chainlink should handpick its users too

>> No.50000256

>>50000231
yes, they might as well just go all the way until the industry matures or something lmao
there's a certain way to prevent any major fuck ups, you actually TRUST YOUR CLIENTS

>> No.50000268

>>50000256
The Chainlink network was decentralized from the second mainnet went online; not only at the node level but even at the source level.
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.50000295

>>50000268
>handpicked whitelisted kyc nodes
>decentralized at the node level\
suuure, let me guess what's next, the Chainlink protocol does not rely AT ALL at the hands of Chainlink labs, it's not like we've been waiting for them to release one pretty significant feature called staking for the past 4 years
how much are Chainlink labs paying you to be a cheerleader here anon?

>> No.50000340

>>50000295
>>handpicked whitelisted kyc nodes
>>decentralized at the node level
Yes.
Judges are "handpicked" too, but that does not preclude them from being independent.

Also, we know the identities of the major BTC and ETH miners too, it has nothing to do with being centralized.

>> No.50000345

>>49997844
>>49997844
>>49997844
>>49997844
>>49997844
>>49997844
Please respond

>> No.50000493

>>50000340
>he unironically believes in separation of powers
kek are you literally 12 years old? is this the actual intelligence of the average crypto holder? jesus fucking christ wake the fuck up

>> No.50000500

>>50000201
>and Chainlink hand picking the nodes is a testament to that irrefutable fact
Yes, in my opinion it's not sufficiently decentralized at the moment (it isn't centralized either though). Right now we are trusting the team to pick trustworthy nodes and assume the real life reputation of these companies is enough to stop them from acting dishonestly. It seems to be working fine for now, as Chainlink rolls out more and more services. Whether you believe this is a temporary measure as they claim, or something that will persist forever, is another debate.
>if they're going to act like a traditional centralized company,
They are not acting like a traditional centralized company. They have decided that a hybrid start will be better for the protocol in the long run, as it will be way harder to exploit the immature protocol when the only nodes are reputable companies with real life reputation at stake. This allows them to hit the ground running while more and more security features come online. Once they reach a sufficient level, creating nodes will become more accessible.

>so essentially you're advocating that allowing scammers to use your services and providing bad feeds
Yes, not them specifically, but unrestricted access yes. Getting people to use your protocol/service/network en masse completely relies on marketing it to developers. You know why ETH has been so successful? From the start, it has had a huge base of interested developers toying with the platform, building on it and experimenting with it. Without this HUGE developer ecosystem ETH would have been dead in the water. This is what Chainlink is trying to foster with the in-depth documentation, weekly videos, hackathons etc. They want to build a dev community that will continuously and indefinitely build all their dapps with Chainlink services (where needed). There is literally no way else to get the ecosystem to grow on the user side.

>> No.50000552

>>50000493
Maybe stop posting until you come to grips with the absolute basics of this Harmony bridge exploit.
You've been nothing but an embarrassment to yourself.

>> No.50000563

>>50000340
>he actually believes ETH and BTC are decentralized
your perception is so far away from reality it's not even funny
>>50000500
> Right now we are trusting the team
it can't get any more centralized than this you retard
>Once they reach a sufficient level, creating nodes will become more accessible
>once ETH 2.0/ arbitrum Nitro/ ISO 20022/ insert some other development way down the road that we don't even know when or if it will ever happen Chainlink will become decentralized!
until then, it's not.
>Without this HUGE developer ecosystem ETH would have been dead in the water.
newsflash my guy, ETH is already dead in the water, even Vitalik lamented at the quality of projects running on top of this clusterfuck for a blockchain
> no way else to get the ecosystem to grow on the user side
there are no legit users, because the industry is NOT LEGIT as it stands, the classic chicken and egg problem
anyway we have vastly different points of view in this matter, we're not going to reach an agreement at any level so good luck

>> No.50000577

>>50000552
>endlessly moving the goalposts
>finally gets btfo on his retarded analogies
thanks for conceding

>> No.50000640

>>50000212
He's saying they're fudding link as they are backed against a wall due to their short position

>> No.50000669

>>50000563
>it can't get any more centralized than this you retard
Oh but of course it can. Wouldn't you agree that a centralized Oracle service like Oraclize is more centralized than a dozen whitelisted nodes?
>until then, it's not
Sure. It's also not centralized.

>the industry is NOT LEGIT
So why are we even arguing then? If you believe the industry is not legit, Chainlink will never amount to anything. Ever.
>we're not going to reach an agreement at any level so good luck
Agreed.

>> No.50000712

>>50000669
>Wouldn't you agree that a centralized Oracle service like Oraclize is more centralized than a dozen whitelisted nodes
no it's pretty much the same level of centralization, Oraclize closes shop there goes the product, Chainlink labs goes under and so much for the whitelisted nodes
decentralized means that anybody can become a node operator, pretty much how anybody can already become a user, it also means no single point of failure, so that this decentralized network can survive without Chainlink the company
it's the exact same shit

>> No.50000749

>>50000712
In that sense Bitcoin and the banking system are just as centralized because they share a single point of failure in the form of access to electricity. If the world loses power both will fail. You are obviously incapable of nuance.

>> No.50000765

>>49997129
Okay so link fucked up. Link is bad tech. So what do we buy instead of link? Only big legit oracle project besides link looks to be SupraOracles but it’s not for sale yet

>> No.50000775

>>50000563
>>he actually believes ETH and BTC are decentralized
So you're trying to fud Chainlink by fudding pretty much crypto in general.

Many such cases actually.

>>50000577
>>endlessly moving the goalposts
lol what?
Name one.

>> No.50000786

>>50000749
>Bitcoin
yes, even disregarding the extreme concentration of hash power to certain countries, there's a company called Blockstream which dictates Bitcoin's future
>the banking system
are you RETARDED? yes IT FUCKING IS, that's why bitcoin was created you retard
>>50000775
>trying to fud
>facts are fud
you should look into that if it seems I'm fudding right now

>> No.50000812

>>50000786
and they ARE centralized NOT because of electricity dependency you absolute moron
>banks rely on the central bank aka FED
>btc relies on a shitty company called Blockstream
what a fucking retard

>> No.50000953

>>50000786
>>50000812
You sure talk a lot smack for someone who doesn't even understand what went wrong with the Harmony bridge.

>> No.50001018

>>50000786
You are a raving lunatic incapable of grasping even the simplest arguments. Instead of engaging with anything put forward you just strawman and curse your way to 27pbtid. What is it that you want exactly?

>> No.50001024

>>50000953
>>50001018
>resorting to insults
thanks for playing guys

>> No.50001052

>>50001024
I didn't even insult you lol.

>> No.50001135

>>50001024
>>resorting to insults
>thanks for playing guys
If that were the metric for winning you got BTFO a long time ago sonny.

>>50000812
>what a fucking retard
>>50000786
>are you RETARDED?
>that's why bitcoin was created you retard
>>50000563
>it can't get any more centralized than this you retard
>>50000493
>kek are you literally 12 years old? is this the actual intelligence of the average crypto holder?
>>49999518
>follow the thread retard
>>49999075
>you're engaging in retarded semantics
>>49998697
>do you retards understand what an "ecosystem" means?

>> No.50001161

>>50001135
at least I've followed my insults with arguments, you just simply gave up
>inb4 reee you don't address my arguments reee
what argument? that the fucking banking system is actually NOT centralized according to you? kek

>> No.50001217

>>50001161
>I've followed my insults with arguments
Half of your "arguments" itt have been "pls spoonfeed me about what happened in the Harmony bridge exploit".
The other half have been "all of defi is a ponzi, and nothing is decentralized so Link is shit haha".

>> No.50001239

>>49997278
>non-ccip bridge got hacked cuz it's a piece of shit
>bearish on ccip
>>49996965
see >>49996390
>Now AAVE assumes a 1:1 backing, so they report the collateral value (determined by Chainlink oracles) as the value of the position.

>> No.50001264

>>50001217
no I was inquiring about why would a user of Chainlink oracles choose to replace them
>all of defi is a ponzi
more like why is Chainlink allowing ponzis to integrate with their services, especially pretty obvious ponzis such as Celsius, but they're picking and choosing who will become a node operator
it doesn't make sense, Chainlink can be hurt from the users as well
>nothing is decentralized
refute it if you can

>> No.50001361

>>50001264
If nothing is decentralized, and all of defi is a ponzi, then why are you talking specifically about Chainlink?

>> No.50001412

>>50001361
>If nothing is decentralized
if it's not it shouldn't be hard for you to disprove it
>and all of defi is a ponzi
never claimed that, but certainly most of these protocols are ponzis, I have no doubt in my mind
>why talk about Chainlink?
I obviously have a vested interest, it's called being a holder of the goddamn token for more than 4 years
>yeah but WHY chainlink
duh, read my posts again, it is supposed to be THE industry standard, it doesn't matter at this point of this "industry" is a joke in my eyes, so WHY would a CLIENT choose to replace Chainlink services??? THAT's why I'm talking about Chainlink you illiterate tard

>> No.50001432

>>50001361
and please for the sake of brevity, start answering my questions instead of replying with another question, this is a pretty standard logical fallacy and it's exhausting my patience
just address the goddamn point, it being what the fuck is actually provably decentralized in your view?

>> No.50001450

>>50001412
You spent all this time and energy arguing itt, rather than actually looking into how the Harmony bridge exploit worked.

>> No.50001464

>>50001450
oh, you have nothing to say, gotcha
thanks for wasting both our times

>> No.50001506

>>50001464
What even is your point or question anymore?

>> No.50001515

>>50001506
>another question
nothing go back to sleep dude

>> No.50001563

>>50001161
What is there to address? I have meticulously and thoroughly stomped any and all of your arguments.

>>50001432
You have no clue anymore what the point is lmao. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing, and you are not even good at it.

>> No.50001567

>>50001515
>I have no point but I must spend hours dissing Chainlink

>> No.50001583

this thread is proof that nexo is struggling

>> No.50001625

>>50001563
yeah, with your stellar counterpoints
>I see absolutely no problem at all with blatant scams/ponzis/straight up incompetent teams associating, using, promoting and exploiting our "trust-minimized" revolutionary piece of technology!
>trust the team bro
>dude, if Chainlink is not decentralized then neither is BTC or teh banks!1 lmao
sorry but this is ridiculous
>>50001567
I do have a point, you're just pretending to be retarded as usual
>>50001583
when I'm talking about scams/ponzis that does not exclude nexo, fuck them as well and whoever still has funds there is a fucking retard

>> No.50001637

>>50001625
>I do have a point
Which is?

>> No.50001701

>>50001637
ok just in an act of good faith, I'll do it one last time just for you
1. Why would a client of Chainlink choose to replace their services?
2. If it's due to their own incompetence as you guys have suggested, then I believe Chainlink should start whitelisting clients and users as well, accepting the premise that most of this industry is currently vaporware or straight up scams
3. decentralization as it stands does not exist at any extent whatsoever, and that obviously includes Chainlink, given how our hopes are concentrated on the team delivering
there you go

>> No.50001770

>>50001701
elaborating on 2., I firmly believe Chainlink IS liable for associating with these scams or allowing them to promote their network through their integration, essentially using Chainlink to legitimize themselves
but you guys seem to disagree on that part and I don't get why
just think how many users trusted their funds on Celsius or Bancor, just because of their association with Chainlink
A friend of mine unironically FOMO'ed at Harmony back in 2019, thanks to Chainlink integration lmao not even memeing
I know that Chainlink might not exactly have been hot stuff or hyped up in the bull, but anybody having a basic grasp of the space KNOWS how important and seemingly trustworthy it actually is, they just fell for tnn fud being spammed everywhere

>> No.50001780

>>50001701
>1. Why would a client of Chainlink choose to replace their services?
This was explained in great detail many times: because Tranquil does not understand what happened.

>then I believe Chainlink should start whitelisting clients and users as well
Nobody cares what you believe.

>decentralization as it stands does not exist at any extent whatsoever
Irrelevant to this thread. You can try to derail any thread on /biz/ with this.

>> No.50001790

>>50001780
kek thanks, I don't really care what you believe as well

>> No.50001793

>>50001770
>I firmly believe Chainlink IS liable for associating with these scams
That's retarded.

>> No.50001814

>>50001793
okay lmao
>complaining about derailing
>proceeds to constantly derail with retarded non answers and endless fallacies

>> No.50001834

>>50001814
This thread is about Harmony, Aave, and Tranquil.
Are they scams?

>> No.50001867

>>50001834
>Harmony
it might be, I remember back in 2019 a lot of shady shit happened with the team, seeing now how they got hacked, it certainly does not instill trust
>AAVE
I think they're legit, at least as legit as anything can be in this moronic industry
>Tranquil
according to you they're just incompetent, which might as well be the same as scams, end result stays the same anyway

>> No.50001892

>>50001867
>it might be
>I think they're legit
>they're just incompetent

So you don't think they're scams.
So why are you derailing this thread with your "hurrr Chainlink should not let scammers use their network"?

>> No.50001916

>>50001892
>Chainlink should not let scammers/vaporware/ incompetent teams use their network
correct

>> No.50001965

>providing oracles and feeds to ADA and SOL
I mean...fucking ridiculous we ALL know these shitchains won't even exist in 3 years

>> No.50001990

>>50001916
It would be impossible for Chainlink to vet and handhold literally thousands of projects.

>> No.50001998

>>50001916
>>50001965
What part of open source do you not understand?

>> No.50002039

>>50001990
then stop integrating with thousands of projects, just like you're not allowing thousands of nodes
>>50001998
>open source
>as if it means shit
you are aware that Chainlink devs have made SOL adapters right? fuck off, open source DOES NOT mean the network is permissionless, it just means SOL/ADA can fork it and attempt to make their own network

>> No.50002082

my overarching point is that these "thousands of projects" integrating with Chainlink are not looking for doing business the proper way as they should, they're looking to SCAM YOUR ASS

>> No.50002089

>>50002039
>stop integrating with thousands of projects
You do realize anyone can use a lot of Chainlink's functionality, right?

>> No.50002109

>>50002089
no, only ETH based shit and the rest of the chains the chainlink team themselves have worked with to make it compatible
>duuuur duuude Chainlink just exists in a vacuum bro, anybody can integrate without direct input from the team bro!
what is this childlike fantasy?

>> No.50002135

>>50002109
A bunch of the major feeds are free, you can simply hook up Keepers and VRF, etc.
You are clueless.

>> No.50002193

>>50002135
>hook up
if you can "simply hook up" shit it automatically means the Chainlink devs have made it possible focusing on that particular blockchain
the audacity you have calling me clueless while you're at best semi-literate

>> No.50002240

>>50002193
>if you can "simply hook up" shit it automatically means the Chainlink devs have made it possible focusing on that particular blockchain
It means you can simply start using Chainlink services.
The most contact you'll have with Chainlink at this point (if you don't get in touch with them first) is they'll DM you some best practices.

>> No.50002287

>>50002240
yes, if your shitty protocol is built on a supported blockchain that is
if not, the Chainlink devs have to decide if they want to create some framework of compatibility
what the fuck is your point anymore?

>> No.50002414

>>50002287
>if your shitty protocol is built on a supported blockchain that is
This applies to all chains.

>> No.50002434

WE WUZ ORACLES N SHIET
GIBS ME DAT PRICE
WUT U MEAN I WROTE SHITTY CODE
LMAO DIS CHAINLINKS FAULT

WE WUZ KANGS OF DA BRIDGES

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50002748

dont mind me just getting refs
>>49999999
>>50000000

>> No.50002830

>>49997129
You're obviously arguing in bad faith if yoire bringing up LUNA as a chainlink Oracle failure.

>> No.50002887

>>49999664
I'm informing you now that you are a disguisting drooling retard

>> No.50002951

>>49999748
Ding ding ding
/thread

>> No.50003307

>>49999748
Based!

>> No.50003610

>>49997594
Why are ani-linkers so obsessed with gay sex?

>> No.50004106

>>49998993
You bulgarians are so cute when you agree with each other. No wonder your mind is so full of gay sex. You should go fuck each other right now.

>> No.50004323
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>>49997219
>t.

>> No.50004355

>>50000295
Do you understand the difference between the two words “decentralized” and “permissionless”? Yes, we want both, but so far we only have decentralization, permissionless node operations are also coming, that’s what staking is about.
I hope it takes a toll on your mental health, being so disingenuous and lying all the time.

>> No.50004507

>>50000563
> BTC and ETH are not decentralized
I think anyone will have had enough of you by now.
Presumably you know better and are lying through your teeth. Fuck off. I hope you die, not for anything to do with link price, but for wasting my morning with your IQ-less drivel. I hope you die in a slow, torturous way, because you are a disgusting non-human who deserves painful death. Mat pigs piss on the place your corpse was unceremoniously dumped.

>> No.50004570

>>50004355
>>50004507
it's not my fault decentralization is a pipe dream and you fell for it you braindead moron

>> No.50004600

>>50001024
Oh I’ll insult you, I’ll go further and insult your parents. Your mother is a fat whore and your father could be anyone in your village. Your grandparents were stateless gypsies. Before them, actual apes (we all have ape ancestors, but most of us more than three generations away). Your whole family tree should have been razed by Hitler, letting you live was his biggest mistake.
All of the civilized world looks down on you. Pig man.

>> No.50004635

>>50004600
are you going to bump the entire thread quoting posts from 4 hours ago?
instead of seething why don't you simply explain why you believe BTC or ETH or even LINK are truly decentralized? what is your definition of decentralization anyway?

>> No.50004985

>>50004570
> decentralization
You have zero understanding what you’re talking about, it doesn’t matter the topic, anything you discuss becomes off topic. So we might as well discuss dehumanization instead.
You are dehumanizing yourself with the way you act. Maybe you tell yourself you are tough, you can take it. Maybe you’re just so poor and out of options that you have no choice. But rest assured, that by constantly dehumanizing yourself by lying, being intentionally thick and becoming the focal point for righteous ire of those that try to help you straight, will deduct years from your life, and will make the years you do have worthless. You are no longer really human. You have sunk to such lows that it’s obvious to every real human you interact with that you are just killing time before you kill yourself. Your a husk. Nothing human remains behind those eyes, even a chimp has more of a spark. You were probably not much to begin with, of course, perhaps you were never fully human. But I imagine as a child even you would have hoped for more than this, becoming a non-human that all the world looks down on and hope to get rid of. A pariah. A parasite on real humans. A rat.

>> No.50005105

>>50004985
kek, you could just be honest and admit you don't have an answer

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>>49996522
toxic voice. be silent

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>>50004635
I'll add you to the mix.

>> No.50006577

>>50001770
agreed
although if you bought and sold other projects affiliated with link– aave, avalanche, yfi at one point– you would have done very well

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>>50004985
>Your a husk.