/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49905429
How about giving us some more details? What's the story? What exactly did this third party claim? Who is he? Your faggot dad's lover?

>>49905429
Break his legs and cut his dick
Then leave him for dead in a forest

>>49905429
Just have him killed and then fake his will to give you his stuff.

i was only beaten to unconsciousness by my father untill 15 then thrown out of house with mother and sister. assigned to mother from court. father inherited millions of euros. now im 41 and i have never seen help or a cent of money from whats supposed to be mine some day.
my only hope is karma for him, i dont even care and try to handle it whitout getting mad or violent. smoking lots of dope helps me. your story is pretty evil. get help?

No sure what you should do OP
but in the death of your immediate loved one (father, mother, whoever you stand to inherit from)
most important thing ever is have a signed copy of the real will.
bug your parents about it if you have to, to have a finalized official copy in certain places to gain access to or just have before hand.
>t. 64 year old boomer dad died two weeks ago

>>49905458
>what's the story
Dad moved abroad to a yuro country with oretty relaxed laws. Dies spontaneously, relatively young, brothers and I are scattered around the world. We drop everything to arrange his funeral and deal with his estate.
Creepy man appears, claiming to be best friend of father's (reality is they were business acquaintances that fell out years ago). Has a fake will, written in a language my father barely understood, testimonied by the cockroach's bent lawyers. Before we've even laid our father to rest this guy had gone round to his banks and land registries and gotten his name on everything, then raided the house and whisked off all our dad's paperwork and deeds. We take him to court, and to cut a long story short, the damage is done, the courts recognise his will as legit, and the cockroach intends to sit on his portion of the estate and refuse to sell.

He's legally entitled to a quarter (three brothers + the vulture) but in this poohole country there's no way to force a sale, so he fully intends to sit on the house and assets until we pay, and critically, he has his name on the deeds and is the sole owner (on paper) at the moment, he just can't sell it by himself as we attained a court order to freeze any sale.

He claimed:
>house
>dad's vehicles
>dad's ASHES (this guy is a sadist with a rictus grin)
>bank accounts
>we suspect him of raiding our father's safe, but a number of people stole from the house.

There's no way out of this except for going along with his agreement. Courts here won't force sales or equal division, he's going to sit on the estate until they rot or he can scam his way to selling them without us with his crooked lawyers, or more realistically, my brothers and I need to sell.

>>49905502
Wouldn't change a thing as it's only his name on all our dad's assets. As I said, we're over a barrel.

>>49905841
I'm sorry to hear that man, that sounds really horrible. I hope you can find a bit of peace about this.

>>49905968
What shit hole country is that? Just kill him desu

Further detail:

The only point at which I could see any shenanigans is the actual moment of sale to interested buyers. The vulture will only accept a direct payment from the buyers and is seeking a charge from the court to get this to go ahead. Our lawyer couldn't persuade or reassure him he'd get his money via any other way. So I'm wracking my brains and asking a Siamese artificial flower arranging forum for advice on how to scam the scammer and recoup some of the money we lost in legal fees fighting this roach and the huge time and expense in restoring our father's house for sale.

>>49905937
This is very very good advice that I hope every anon reading this takes to heart. Wills are vital, and laws are different in each country, so make sure you're informed.

Anon, I'm really sorry about your loss. I hope you can allow yourself room to go through all the many stages of grief.

this legal shit could go on for years and lots of people will leech from it. we are living in strange times. please dont do anything you will regret later. i often think such stuff is like a test and justice will be done in time. its important that you have your family on your side.

>>49906137
A shithole country notorious for a network of crooked lawyers in bed with the council and municipal services and courts.

Killing him wouldn't get his name off the estate, it would just pass down to his brothers, who are equally vile and most likely salivating as they give him advice.

>>49906266
Turkey?

The only realistic option is for you to hire some guys to go and break his kneecaps or to do it yourself.
Violence or the threat of it is a magical motivator.
Have him beaten up and demand all of the paperwork be returned to you, at least that way if it continues in courts you have a leg to stand on.
Otherwise courts will never side with you and you can basically just consider the inheritance lost.
Or agree to whatever the fuck he demands and then put a gun to his head and tell him to send all of the money over.

Of course you could try and make this public on TV in whatever shitpit nation you father lived and try to pressure the courts to act that way, but I doubt you could get enough traction behind this.

>>49906349
Nah, within the EU
ah fuck it
it's Moortugal

Eurocuck gets scammed by eurocuck, I bet you fucking scammed people with crypto and now the worlds fucking you back, good you eurocucks are cockroachs I hope you get what you deserve which is a 20k lawsuit that ends in you getting nothing and the other eurocuck getting it all.

>>49905429
Sounds like the cockroach was more involved in your father’s life any of you greedy little chucklefucks. Serves you right to only get scraps.

Pathetic.

>>49906361
real life is not some bruce willis b-movie. the satisfaction from breaking someones bones does not last long and will have no positive effect for him. its sad but true.

>>49905968
If it's a fake will why did he give you and your bros 75%? That makes no sense. I think your dad had a gay lover anon.

>>49906424
Nah, my brothers have families in other countries and I was studying abroad, no one expected dad to keel over

>>49906395
I'm not into crypto, lad. Get this hothead outta here

>>49906434
He didn't make a will as he wasn't expecting to kark it. The will entitled him as sole heir, but cutting children out entirely isn't legal in this cuntry, so we ought to receive quarters by law, regardless of morality. However the retarded land registry didn't understand this and not even a court order could undo the apparently indelible ink they've used to get solely his name on everything. Trust me, the money we've burned on a good lawyer couldn't solve this.

>>4990542

Go to a Voodoo preistest and tell her your problem.

I'm actually serious and not trolling. This is how the rich do battle now, with good old fashioned witchcraft.

>>49906361
Thanks for the thoughts and violent ideations, though I think i'll avoid that route

>>49906522
The lawyer knew that already but still took your money lol. What you do is just move into the properties and live there.

>>49906600
That's what they're good for, as I learned. Too late now!
Unfortunately living there is not on the table, as it's a remote place and I have a family and life in another country, as do my brothers.

>>49906156
>Our lawyer couldn't persuade or reassure him he'd get his money via any other way
Yeah, because he has no intention of giving you any of it. How old is he compared to you? Can you wait until he expires of natural causes and then try to persuade whoever inherits his share to sell?

>>49905429
I'm not advocating for violence and this post is parody/satire

But it would be quite humorous if by some insane series of karmic events that this fellow you're describing suddenly lost a few limbs here and there.

>>49905429
Make a fake will and use it to challenge the cockroach? The court will have two fake wills to consider one of which is in the non-native language of deceased.

>>49906432
We're not talking about some satisfaction or whatever the fuck and yes violence does work in real life as has been proven by every single entity using intimidation tactics in human history.
I've seen bosses being very willing to pay lost wages when unpaid construction workers have arrived to their door and have threatened to stab the sketchy fucks to death in front of their families.
In the end people do prefer life over trying to make a quick buck.
The only difficulty in this is to find guys to do it if you can't do this yourself because you live in different country.

>>49906592
Unfortunately the violent route or some kind of real life confrontation might be the only one that works out for you.
You're being fucked out of your wealth by a corrupt court system that without a doubt constantly sides with these scammers.
There's a reason why these guys are doing this, they know they're going to win and seem to be pretty experienced in doing this.

Only real way I see this working out legally in your favor is if you make this public and embarrass the nation to a point they're forced to take your side to save face.
So call your TV stations and theirs and try to get the story out and then start accusing the nation of fucking foreign investors.
They just might get scared of losing foreign money to a point where they make an exception and don't side with the scammers this time around.

What kind of father that owns multiple properties and has multiple children doesn't have a will?

>>49906812
Boomers who don't understand generational wealth is a virtue.

>>49905429
Give up and keep living without stress
Parents are retards
Your lawyer is a leech

>>49906734
Nevermind, just read the part about the vile brothers. Sounds like a real gridlock but I hope someone else with knowledge of poortugal law can help you out

>>49906824
Dude did absolutely not give a fuck what happens after he's dead. Even to his own sons. Boomer mentality is just so fucked up.

Portugal? Hire some Angolan and Brazilian muscle and make the whole thing not worth it for the guy. Legally and lawfully.
The real value of this thread is a warning of what could happen for all of us reading.

>>49905429
Assassinate him.

DNA testing could.be a compelling argument. Its a sure way of proving his place in the family. How did he get you over a barrel in the first place?

>>49906794
i was in some brawls in my lifetime and even if won never profited a single time. at the end you are a violent asshole and thats not what you want to be. try the voodoo priest like the other anon said.

>>49906883
How would one find such Angolan and Brazilian types?

>>49905429
not sure how it works in portugal, but in my country you'd have the following options:
1. continue lawyering up in a deadlock until he gives up as he cannot afford to pay for the legal fees anymore, this also includes appealing to another court, demanding to change the jury or whatever it takes to stretch out the battle.
2. Hiring gypsies or if you have ties to the underworld, some more professional help.
3. Media or local community - given that you aren't local the latter is off, as no one will get riled up for your sake (unless your father had a lot of good friends there), posting "proof" on social media, spamming friends and family of the scammer, digging up dirt on him, stalking him so he feels like he's unsafe/you're going to do something (but he doesn't have proof, also, being in a shitty country should be an advantage here as they probably don't take stalking as seriously), generally just being an annoying jurno cunt

>>49905429
also, not sure if this would work but as you hold the majority of the estate, it should be possible for you to "renovate" your home without that guys consent

>>49905429

If there's four of you, arranging a meeting can be very easy. Many lawyers are willing to write things for a good chunk, and notarize and proof it even if done in utmost secrecy so long as the person's signature is in on it. If you insert a needle into an eye and pull, it will blind the rabbit in excruciating pain, but it will not kill them anytime soon. Duct tape wrapped around the exhaust of a car three times prevents any smoke from getting out. A young tree can be bent by hitting the knees with a solid stick. A household plant can go up to three days without water, but it will have a miserable time if watered with salted water.

>>49907064
He now has a state appointed lawyer through some absolute retardation Sopa de Macao tier court decision that my mind is too anglo to comprehend, so he can go on forever, whereas we have been out of pocket just to get to a situation where he can't immediately transfer the estate to his brothers and skip off.

This kind of gridlock is common here, and the country is littered with decaying empty houses that belong to 10 brothers with one who won't agree to sell

>>49907129
Thats all well and good for dealing with rabbits, trees, leaky exhausts and troublesome household plants, but what about humans?

>>49906376
>Rape
I'm serious. Kidnap him, drug him, lock him up in a dark room and confuse him about the time he spent in there all the while plunging his warm poohole with a plunger or hell your own dick if you want.
At the same time make demands to the family that they must pay a ransom or surrender your father's possessions to you if they want to see him alive again.
If that doesn't work just kill off his entire family first and then him if he still won't give it up. If he wants to play a "ruthless" business tycoon you sure as hell can play ruthless too.

>>49907334
I appreciate the sentiment and vivid imagery, but I'm not convinced that family murder is the path I want to take

>>49905429
Well hypothetically speaking you could just forge another will you retard make it as original and true to your fathers way of critical thinking and ways of caring get a real good crooked lawyer and dispute their forged will with now a more superior will. For added sympathy you get some random fucks threaten you and claim they were sent by the 3faggots to try and scare you to accept their terms. All this is a hypothetical scenario though.

>>49908046
This. Hire some fake hitmen to "kidnap" or attempt murder on yourself, then accuse the scammer of sending them, and sue him. Or may be take an insurance policy on the estate and have it later "burned down" by vandals.

>>49908101
>>49908046
Thanks for the suggestions goys

>>49905429
>third world country

literally just pay someone to **** him. would only cost a couple grand.

Just dox his address somewhere on tor or just ask for help unironically on Portugal's reddit.
I'm a local and I'm pretty sure if you just physically threaten him he will back off, Portuguese people are pussies.

>>49908101
this
>>49909812
this.
like other anons have said. although involving hitmen might complicate things for you.
just beat the fucker to within an inch of his life and threaten to know some cia or mi6 or mossad guys in your country.

then you can pay someone to just follow them and by them hopefully the paranoia will make him take the deal.

if you have proof of their falling out you very well could prove his testimony is crooked, acuse him of document forgery and if all else fails take this to the higher court. which is in the capital city of said country and if that fails take it to the european court. key point would be to have evidence.

it doesnt even have to be real, just arrange with your bros some screenshots in which you dad "tells you" about his arguments with the guy and how he think he's cooking something.

acuse him of murder even, if you say your dad croaked unsuspectedly and the guy just appeared after little time with his property deed then you have a case. hire a pi or do due dilligence in proving his house was raided (take photos of broken vaults doors, broken doors or broken anything, any sign of misconduct).

look up dirt on the guy, like previous offenses, make up a case in which he reveals himself to be a pedophile which he may very well be. text him like you're some 13 year old chick and bait him into admitting to want to fuck your catfish persona.

there are so many ways you can put the squeeze on the guy off the top of my head, but if you want to be professional about it i suggest speaking to people who've dealt with this like lawyers, policemen, detectives, intelligence officers, and bounty hunters

>>49907768
Did you miss the part where you rape him? He will NEVER go to the cops about that. And he sure as fuck won't fuck with the will anymore because you'll rape him again.

>Dad dies young, randomly
>Scumbag from his past shows up immediately with paperwork in hand

I'm sorry to tell you this, but it is a moral imperative that you torture this man. He killed your father. Him and whatever scumbag wife or friend or whoever is helping him got close to your dad and fucking murdered him for a house. He is probably not their first victim, and if you allow this to continue, it will likely not be the last.

>>49910028
like said. its kind of common to see this situation in developing aka shit tier countries

>>49910012
I imagine myself in OPs same scenario but with my family and in my country. I would unironically do this plan if someone tried to rob my family.

>>49906190
Wise words right here

>>49907334

While i like the concept of violence to the thief Portugal isn't some Colombian lawless province.
The legal system and police work decently well.
You would likely be arrested.

You should consider not using a 'murican lawyer if the issue is centered in Portugal.

And you should consider playing the waiting game as the friend of your dad likely needs the money much more than you do. Salaries in Portugal aren't horrible but also far from good.

More details on the thief relationship with your dad would be good.

>>49909991
>fake screenshots
Unfortunately this scumbag took our father's phone and laptop and has accessed all our correspondence, quoting some of it back. He is a very paranoid person and does a lot of amphetamines and each time we encountered him he acted like Smeagol on crack, I wouldn't be surprised if he's sleeping with one eye open expecting any of the options posted ITT to happen to him.

A detail i think I didn't emphasise enough is that this bastard is coercing us into giving away our father's ashes. Regardless of how the resolution to his entanglement with property deeds goes down, there is no way Minecraft Steve isn't get a box filled with wood ash and ground chicken bones and a slip and slide into a lake rolled in a carpet at some point.

>>49910719
>You should consider not using a 'murican lawyer if the issue is centered in Portugal.
We used a northern city lawyer who cut through a lot of the bs

>And you should consider playing the waiting game as the friend of your dad likely needs the money much more than you do. Salaries in Portugal aren't horrible but also far from good.
Unfortunately this isn't on the table, this guy is a leech in life so can hold out, and my brothers are already in debt with legal fees over this.

>More details on the thief relationship with your dad would be good.
Appears to have been a friendly enough business association until it became clear this grub was shady and our dad cut him out. Cant describe the business details or field they worked in on here.

>>49910965
man thought of everything.
like i said, gather evidence and take it to a higher court if all else fails.

or like another guys said, take out an insurance on the house and have someone burn it. between you and your brothers you should have enough balls and brains to pull this off

May I suggest hiring a bully hunter from the deep web?
The kind who will grief his minecraft characters legs if he doesnt do what you tell him to do.
Death threats are usually less effective than threatening to turn them into stephen hawkings with a tire iron.

This is all for minecraft roleplay servers. Very illegal IRL, I dont recommend.

murder, melt body in acid

>>49911305
Rather extreme suggestion from a gondola poster, but >>49910719 is correct, they're not Brazilian.

>>49911336
Necessarily in that order? Also, at what point does that get his name off the deeds?

>>49911605
Sometimes drastic actions must be taken.