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Teeka blessed now go spread the word.

why is the price still 10cents

>>4988249
Because the soytits want to accumulate. Same reason buy in price for ZEN is still $20

no i mean the text at the bottom says 10cents. the current price is 14cents

Already all in faggots. Listen to the !am or stay poor.

Proof someone?

Nothing is fucking happening, I am all in on this coin. What do we do stellar bros?

its fake look at the buy up price and then look at current price

>>4988385
No, the PBC call is actually legit. The price has just risen so fast that the buy-up-to is currently below current price.

Something big is happening, but a lot of people on /biz/ would tell you otherwise.

https://twitter.com/joyce/status/936748284839739392

It's just a matter of when at this point.

>>4988211
I actually just sold off half of my ETH to buy XLM before even seeing all these XLM threads.

I was up in the air between XRP and XLM but I think I'll pour all of it into XLM.

>>4988402
Can't open that link.

>>4988385
This, if this is a recent update the buy up to price should be different.

>>4988412
All in

fake news its been betwwen 13-14 for a few days

>>4988461
Those who are impatient will not be rewarded.

>>4988443
I have my ticket to a happier life now.

I'm going to acquire 5k XLM and sell off when it reaches $100.

I've got 1800xlm and 100 iota because poorfag.
Both have already made me some money, but here's hoping they go reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally high

I currently have 7.7k XLM should I sell off all my MANA as well to get into this? There's a coin burn happening on the 15th and expecting MANA to go up a bit.

>>4988656
Don't get your expectations too high, friendo! We can still reach 1 $ easy peasy, the slightest amount of publicity and FOMO will trigger it. After that let's see how far we can actually go. I think market #1 could be realistic one day

>>4988656
It will literally never hit $100 unless they do a coin burn or coins start being destroyed at an escalated pace.

They just asked coinmarketcap on Twitter to change their name to "Stellar" without the Lumens part. They are for sure preparing some announcement/rebranding for the next days

>>4988385
this mail was sent when it was 0.09

Can this really 10x?

20bn market cap seems like a long shot

>>4988732
5k XLM at $25 is still practically the "I win" button for me personally.

I just want to buy a small farm in the woods and raise a small Christian family. I could careless about fancy dining, clothes and cars.

>>4988746
Yep, around 15 $ would be BTC-tier market cap. It's still a 100x to go

>>4988799
>worshipping kikes

top cuck

shits gonna mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon

w/e man have fun getting dumped on at 900. ive had stellar since the visa rumors im just trying to save you from a lie.

Serious question, /biz/. If I bought 41k@785 and if that's a third of my portfolio - do I set a stop loss? And if yes, where?

>>4988211
i hope you are righ annon i still have some baggs in it

>>4989009
No live or die by xlm

one of my most profitable coin. bought at 300 sats, sold some at 1200 sats, still holding most of them. i've seen this coin go to 200M to 2B mcap, it's just the beginning.

>>4989089
Lol I been hodling it wayyyyy back at 200 sats and doubled down when PBC came into the picture at 400 sats

>>4989174
Good for you m8.

Fuck me. Was lurking during october about stellar when it was mooning 100% increase to .013. a month later it was .04 and I thought not to buy because too high. Now its 0.139 I just don't know if I should buy now or wait

>>4989336
Buy half now, wait and see if it dips before buying another half. I know I'm gonna accumulate some more if it dips.

ALL FUCKING IN

>>4989430
MUH DIK

Whats the highest this coin can realistically achieve? Is $10 a stretch?

>>4989548
A very big one

>>4989548
Do your own math fag. At least 2x at some point is a given IMO, but if it has the luck to match its tech, it can be bitcoin levels of hype and higher, so that's around 100x. This is a huge moonshot and has pretty good potential, but bad things might also happen, like BTC collapsing and taking down the market, or ripple pulling some unbelievable publicity stunt

>>4989548
You see shit like FCT, Tenx, QTUM, Decred, XCP, iota or XBC?
XLM might hit $15, given enough exposure and mainstream adoption.

Where or how can I buy XLM ? I tried but it said that I can't buy that with my euro money €

>>4989837
Buy ETH/BTC on Kraken with your Euros
Send it to Binance/Bittrex/Poloniex.
Buy XLM/STR with ETH/BTC

>>4989869
Thank you for your answer.

>>4989869
>wbpO9V
Kraken also has Stellar listed as STR

MOOOOON POLONIEX

>>4990515
baka this coin doesnt do shit

guys is there a conference today or what? I am getting tired of holding this shitcoin while everything else moons

>>4990658
Go ahead. Sell your XLM. Then in a few days you can post a pink wojak and complain about how you have terrible luck and everything moons when you're not holding it.

kek its mooning right now

>>4990691
Yo man there is a conference today according to the calendars, isn't that right??

>>4990706
"mooning"
we went up 20 satoshi moron

>>4990617
>replying to yourself

how about killing yourself

>>4990706
right? lol this might be the first time a 4chan post wasnt here to shill bags.

It truly is the start of a new era.

>>4990739
So much expectation from this thing.
Disappointment will come quickly, as the attention span of the typical holder.

>>4990739
70 sats up now

>>4990823
I don't know when to get out!

>>4990877
In about 800 satoshi

>>4990877
>I don't know when to get out!
I won't get out before 1200. This coin is my fate, this day is my day. It's either lambo or limbo.

>>4990877
lol. Hint: the time to get out isnt when it starts to moon.

>>4990953
i'm seeing accumulation. This could be interesting.

>>4990980
Well I've been bagholding this shit since 760. I need to see gainz.

>>4990990
What does it mean when someone keeps moving the sell wall down? Accumulation means its gonna moon?

>>4991023
its been above 760 for a while now bro.
what exchange you on?

>>4990990
>accumulation
>>4991099
>what did he mean by that
Answer, faggot! I have thrown all my ltc into this last night

Logo a rocket? It only means one thing. To the moon!!

>>4991285
accumulation is when whales manipulate a price to get in low before something is about to take off.

Not great in the super long term. 100bil coins when network was launched in 2014, 1% inflation per year or 1bil new coins each year. Model is that each transaction will cost 0.00001 XLM per transaction. If my math isnt all retarded thats 100trillion transactions per year to balance inflation (not even accounting for compound of that 1% p/y). They will be worth nothing in the end

>>4991303
so theoretically, if i make logo with flying saucer my coin would go to alpha centauri ?

>>4991357
If it's gonna be used as a currency it needs some inflation. This is a serious effort about making satoshi's vision of a currency work, not another hoarding scheme. Besides, inflation isn't shit compared to the potential moon mission of the future, it will only matter once the price has settled.

>>4991357
Nah Stellar Lumens would only be worth nothing if the following scenarios occur:
a) BTC collapses overnight, dragging the entire Altcoin market to oblivion
b) When IBM stops using it
c) Lumens get hacked
d) Jed leaves Stellar

>>4990990
Jesus christ. I'm not a fucking genius. I'm watching the order book on bittrex and there's a lot more buying than selling right now. I'm all in on this shitcoin too.

sooo when is the meeting? the announcement? at what time?

>>4991339
Okay, thanks. How do they do that?

>>4991471
Moon for 2018 probably. If it stellar network took all of SWIFTs business, which would be crazy, thats only like 6bil transactions yearly. Thats insane inflation. Those coins arnt burned either, they get redistributed via staking.

>>4991419
Yes

Guys, read this.

>Stellar has been accelerating partnership with major tech and finance institution, including IBM most recently. “IBM is bringing a consortium of 30 banks that want to send money across borders easily. They will use Stellar as the payment rail between them.”
http://www.theinvestor.co.kr/view.php?ud=20171212000233

>>4991617
put down a ton of XLM as a sell 2 sats above the price so investors see a random 10BTC wall and think "it wont get over that, I better sell before it hits it." and then the price dips. that 10BTC sell then disappears and reappears lower now that the price has dropped.
The whale doesnt care how much of the 10BTC of XLM is actually bought up because they can force the price lower to buy in again.

Its illegal on the stock exchange but crypto is the wild west.

>>4991631
I think their model is solid. And I'm under the impression that the fees can get adjusted later on as well.

Totally hyped. Gonna sell my virgin sister to buy this.

>>4991534
Also they are going to give away billions of them away for free. Don't forget that.

>>4991759
they already did.
a longgggg time ago.

>>4991759
>>4991783
Yep. Also why the fuck not? They're spreading it out, the average person will probably get 10 $ max. That's great publicity.

>>4991759
They already agreed not to pull that shit again.
It is plain autism to repeat mistakes and not expect the same results.

>>4991783
I'm just reading their site. They gave away 20% but plan to give away 50%. Correct me if I'm wrong. I like the project. My original point that hodling loads of stuff when there's plans for crazy inflation and plans for give aways.
>>4991855
It's still on their website.

>>4991688
Great explanation, thanks anon.

>>4991888
Yea I thought they were going to distribute a good number to developers on the Stellar Network.
But it is too early to say

>>4991993
no problem.

Good luck!

>>4991658
Nobody is excited that the connection is finally made? Instead of just hinted at.

>>4992660
I thought this was confirmed already?

>>4991688
thanks for the info. does this mean the whale is selling while simultaneously buying at said lower price from other sellers?

why is this dumping so hard right now

>>4992714
Nah.It was known IBM used Stellar. And it was known IBM worked with a banking alliance on a blockchain project. But there was always the offchance they were unrelated projects.

>>4991658

Actually a good find. This is thing that has best shot of being the news Teeka Tiwari referenced.

Looks like it's from today, I would get in before thi sspreads if you don't already own XLM.

>>4992849
Because stupids are dumping it to jump in whatever rising coin just to get dumped afterwards. I think it's ETH and LTC right now.

>>4992862
Oh, I was completely unaware of that! Should follow the situation more closely. But thanks for letting us know, that's absolutely great news for Stellar. This is Ripple-level waves

>>4992956
Yep. And since this is new, it isn't priced in either.

>>4992956

But this is old news, the IBM and network of South Pacific banks news is weeks old.

>>4993087
You have to wonder how the price isn't skyrocketing right now. Should probably accumulate some more while I still can.

>>4993087
Nah, it refers to the we.trade alliance. With some of the biggest banks in Europe.

https://www.nordea.com/en/press-and-news/news-and-press-releases/press-releases/2017/12-05-08h30-nordea-joins-first-blockchain-based-trade-finance-platform-as-founding-partner.html

>>4993145
>The commercialisation of the platform is anticipated in Q2 2018, while it is expected that test customers of the founding banks will use the platform earlier.
On reddit the IBM guy was talking about Q1.

Basically, the *hints* are out there that something huge is brewing with IBM + Banks + XLM.

But until it is packaged in a press release than the average person understands and hears about, it is basically just a "secret" for those in the know who accumulate early.

Once properly announced, this thing will blow up.

>>4993181
Here it is. From quite a while ago.

>We have 1 major market maker (right now - again, stay tuned VERY soon), and 14 major institutions involved in direct or indirect capacity on the network. Starting in Q12018, you should see more of those institutions redirecting payment traffic on the network.
This will be a slow, gradual increase over time. That’s the right way to do this kind of things.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellar/comments/7bfbuj/hi_im_michael_dowling_group_cto_and_chief/

I guess a lot of people are just waiting until it happens.

>>4993259
>>4993188
Holy shit. I'm going in boys. XLM is on discount now, too.

>>4993303

Smart choice. Notice the floor is rising. Even on BTC rallies it falls to around 800 and bounces back. That's because smart people are holding the fuck out of this.

I wouldn't advise anyone to go all-in, because you don't want to miss out on all the easy money grabs right now. But I'm considering going all in anyway since this seems like the mots "sure" thing to me right now.

>>4993362
Yep, noticed the floor has remained rather high ever since the moon mission, which is pretty impressive

>>4993362
Also I 100% agree about this being the most "steady" bet right now. There's so many uncertain variables, there's so many shitcoins (over 90 of the top 100), there's so much emotional investment. This seems like the reliable choice among all that, almost like a guaranteed performer. If it fails, I don't know how I could stay on the market.

>>4993499
It combines a good tech, good partnership with a low marketcap. In that sense it's a good investment.

But I also think Monero is highly undervalued. Considering people actually use it in their daily lives without any outside incentives. There is literally a functioning economy around that coin.

So Stellar and Monero are my two favorites.

>>4988369
Im going to neck myself because Im missing all moonmissions

>>4993604
I love Monero, but I can't get over the fact that it uses POW (mining). It's gonna face the same scalability issues as bitcoin if it becomes widespread.

Ethereum is my other bet right now, but it's still a fraction of what I've put in XLM. Also XRB and REQ pennies for meme gains (before they mooned). That's about all the things I'm confident enough to invest in this current market. Oh, and also I was considering starting mining FoldingCoin. I've been waiting for folding@home coin since crypto became a thing.

Do you have anything in XRP? It's in my opinion even less reliable of an investment than XLM because it's high market cap and being played by Ripple, but I can't help but feel a bit anxious about not diversifying at least a bit.

SO WHAT ARE PRICE PREDICTIONS.. IM BALLS DEEP AND WANT SOME GOOD NEWS

When to get in?

>>4993819
Hol up, I'll check my crystal ball

lol how retarded are you people. the ops info is fake. Didnt even post the email just copy/pasted LOOK AT THE 10CENTS THEN LOOK AT THE PRICE ATM. ITS BEEN AT 13-14 ALL WEEKS

>>4993774
Well, I considered investing in Ripple. Especially now Korean and Japanese banks are experimenting with it.
But when you look at the history of Ripple then it seems it has a very stable value. Which makes it very uninteresting to invest in. Not to mention it has many bagholders that might drop their bags on you.

So I'm a bit hesitant. Although I certainly do see the potential. But in the end i prefer the partnerships of Stellar. The non-profit character. And the higher potential for gains.

>>4993881
WHAT DOES IT SAY MOTHER FUCKER. QUICK

>>4993900

What the fuck are you talking about. Not only is it real, its old.

It came out like 10 days ago (go check back and check spike in price). I thought everyone knew about this buy alert by now.

>>4993930
Not to mention the value of ripple in sat keeps dropping as bitcoin rises.

>>4993990

Also, no, it was not above 10 cents when this came out. I picked it up at 9 cents.

But cents arent what matter, satoshis are. Basically, going by the BTC value at time of this alert, "up to 10 cents" meant like up to 880-900 satoshis or something, basically.

>>4993990
w/e man you will see. Some one has been dumpin at 900sats the last 3days. just trying to warn u

>>4993930
Yep, exactly. I'm a bit sceptical about it mooning as well. They did say they were gonna publish 2 huge household partnerships Q4, however. But how much will that do? It's not gonna be freaking Amazon or Visa level most likely, probably some 20% pump at best. And then there's the company being sleazy.

Will probably wait for the news and see if I can FOMO in in time, then. XLM has a lot more potential

>>4993934
it says

SOON

>>4994049

Good, well hopefully that idiot is out of tokens. Thisi s going to over 2000 sats this month I think. It's due for a run up like ADA and IOTA got (it's a way more important coin and will have its place in the top 10)

But yeah sorry for being harsh, but the buy alert is legit, but I don't know why he posted it like it was new. It's not.

>>4994107
ya 10 days ao it got pumped to 1400sats and now its been drooping to 700-n dumped at around 900 for the last 3 days

>>4994052

I think the partnerships will actually be very significant. Read between the lines in Teeka's words. he's implying that this is as big or bigger than the IBM news.

Keep in mind it went to over 1400 satoshis from 800 (over 75% increase) the other day based off a little hype and a conference alone

Waiting for the news is probably fine though. You miss some upside, but your capital isn't tied up waiting.

i have 900 xlm... will i make it EOY 2018?

Literally a rocket

>>4994305

No. Get some more money into crypto before it's too late.

>>4994322
Is 8k enough?

>>4994196
Oh, I meant the Ripple partnerships. Well, I'm pretty sure a big part of it is priced in considering how XRP is up a shocking 13% currently.

I have no doubt that the Stellar partnerships wouldn't be big. It's a very attractive crypto for businesses, and Teeka was indeed spot-on the last time. All Stellar needs is the right bump of publicity, they have everything else set perfectly.

As for XRP, I guess I'll skip on it for now then. No point investing pennies in speculation, the upside isn't that big.

>>4988812

>>4994357

Yeah ok I see now, my bad. skimmed too fast. Yeah I'm in no rush for XRP right now but it will probably have its day soon once the normie invasion spills over into big alts.

Though by then, XLM may have captured its market share and get the boost instead!

>>4993188
pretty sure its been literally announced already. Its on their site and on the lumens reddit.

>>4994393
God let's hope so

>>4994339
Unless you have 800k lumens right now, you are honestly not going to lamboland

What percent of my portfolio should be in xlm?

What are price predictions guys. Reassure your boy this is better than holding ltc

>>4994441
>Reassure your boy this is better than holding ltc

No one can say that, normies are pumping LTC and ETH hard, either of them could hit $1000 within the next week.

I'm holding XLM so obviously I think it's a good pick, but never underestimate the power of normies.

>>4994419
I think much less can take you to places if the stars align and XLM really takes off

>>4994508

Same. I have a shitload of XLM but going against LTC is hard.

When XLM hits its catalysts, it will spike harder than LTC. But I have definitely missed easy money on the LTC train while holding XLM before that happens.

>>4994441
LTC is basically a shitcoin. It's BTC with a smaller market cap. It's rising because some people have issues to withdraw BTC and ETH from Bitfinex. So they convert to LTC. This shitcoin will tank like there's no tomorrow when the issues are fixed.

>>4994550
>>4994508
These are gains you couldn't have predicted. Don't feel too bad about missing on stupid money unless you're into daytrading

>>4994438
How much are you willing to invest?

>>4994441
Could break $15 or $25, assuming widespread adoption (Financial remittance/Cross Border payments/Ecommence), XLM becoming a strong competing force to ETH/BTC (Due to its high liquidity and insane processing speed) and the level of the ICOs released on the network.

In fact, if Stellar/XLM was ever released on Coinbase, you could even see a probable spike to a dollar a pop.

>>4994537
If you are not looking to retire early and comfortably, then yeah

>>4994550
>>4994588

I don't really care about missing LTC gains, my only concern is that the buying frenzy around LTC and ETH might be the harbinger of a major BTC crash, which could take the market down with it for a while.

>>4994724
We entered the "mania" phase. Normies are the ones who will bring everything down with their stupidity. As usual.

>>4994712
BTW, hope Coinbase doesn't introduce Ripple first. That would be a major blow. I'm pretty sure they aren't doing that for now though, bcash is the next candidate.

>>4994724
That's a good point. Keeping the possible crash in mind, I think XLM might be one of the safe bets, so at least we're on solid ground. But it could go down like it did when BTC last dipped. XLM needs recognition before the crash happens, otherwise it might dip like the rest.

>>4994846
The only way Ripple would ever gain an edge over Stellar is if Banks allow Ripple users to cash out to fiat, USING XRP Tokens.

And we are still a looooong way from that

>>4995098
Kind of true. I think Ripple has doomed XRP to stay out-of-sight.

huge buywall at XLM!
so it begins

>>4995291
50 btc at 840 sats

>>4995326
*pooof*
There it goes

can someone explain to me the best way to set up a wallet for xlm?

>>4995399
Go to https://www.stellar.org/account-viewer/#!/

I have 6k of these. Someone tell me what do?

>>4995471
how do I fund my account?

bought 2750 @ 825sats, let's go

bump, was there not a conference today?

when is the meeting/announcement?

any links?

>>4995399
Use Bitstamp then transfer whatever you buy onto Qryptos/Bitrex etc..

From there exchange into XLM and then send the what you get to a desktop/hardware wallet

>>4995680
also wondering stellar bro

>>4995727
>>4995680

The "conference" today is the launch of SatoshiPay, which will feature Stellar (they'll be giving out free Lumens to attendees).

Don't get your hopes up about it. The next pump will likely come out of the blue when Stellar announces new partnerships/delivers clarification on existing ones. Just hold throughout December and you should be fine.

>>4995665
>>4995680
Someone stick a sharpie in there ass