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>>4986784
Cope thread/10.

>>4986784
10k ark checking in

what do you get with 1000 ark

>>4986784
even if ARK goes 10x i will still not have 1000 ARK reeeeeeeeee

Hello /biz/nessmen! Can I interest you in some wares?

>>4986851
Imagine you had 1000 ETH.

>>4986880
yes pajeet how can i turn 100 ARK into 1000 ARK?

>>4986784
see you at $2.5

>>4986975
Fantastic- means I can get even more!!!

been holding since summer
I'm a little worried about the direction of the coin, it seems like they're going in a direction where, while Ark will be great to use, the price wouldn't go all that high.
In the slack Mike said "If a given VM chain becomes bigger than Ark and wags the dog, that is part of the evolution. We don't want to try to force the ecosystem to use Ark but instead attract them to do so."

it doesn't make sense to me, it seems like now they're trying to make an ecosystem that doesn't even require the coin. I thought I understood the direction they were going in but now I don't know.

I'm holding 25K ARK, should I try to sell them off and ride LTC to $1000?

>>4987044
dude if Ark hits $40 you never have to work again in your life

My ARK investment is down like 80%. Fuck this shit.

>>4987057
>1 million dollars
>never work again
hahaha, cute

>>4987084
>being this fucking retarded
he'd make $100k a year from staking you fucking idiot

>>4986784
is it normal that i havent gotten a payout since 12/7

>>4987057
Ya man, that's the plan. I've bled out a lot of satoshis and feel like missed a moon mission or 5 elsewhere. But I'm done chasing and have been parked here a long while, staking everything of course. 50/week is a good ARK pay cheque at these prices, and if it takes off its excellent.

This coin has tanked so fucking bad. wtf didn’t i just buy Vertcoin like I was going to fuck this

>>4987107
Factor in tax and inflation, he could scrape by is some eastern yurop shithole maybe.

>>4987155
even with both of those involved that puts him in upper middle class America without even having to work

>>4987057
I just wanna live off the dividends. I've got 3k ark now but had 20k prior to the last moon mission. Fucking stupid for selling right before the August moon. Now I get about 4.5 Ark a week whereas before I was getting 17...fml.

>>4987057
>dude lmao just buy dgb and when it hits 10$ youll be rich

>>4987165
I'm at about where you are right now. I want to live off of dividends too but at this point I'm not sure how far this coin is gonna go with what the devs are talking about. It feels like they might be making an ecosystem that barely even needs to coin and if that's the case what's gonna drive the price forward?

I just want ARK to hit $150 one day

>>4987190
>a $400million marketcap coin going from $4 to $40 is the same as a $100million marketcap coin going from 1 cent to $10

>>4987034

So is there any point in me continuing to hold this shitcoin? How is a collection of forked chains going to drive up the price?

>>4987239
that's the question I'm asking dude. Yeah if the ecosystem actually needs Ark to function then it would go up but why the hell does it seem like they're making an ecosystem that doesn't need to coin? There's gotta be something I'm missing

>>4987191
yeah, well stranger shit has happened....just wish it would happen soon though. I am approaching the need to sell fast and I really don't want too since I know it will eventually moon big but I just became unemployed so I will probably end up missing the next moon as well if I can't get some shekels soon. End of blogpost.

>>4987227
ok lets make it even then, go buy dgb and wait until it goes to 10 cents, dgb even has a lower market cap so it can grow even mroe right?

Why not chase moons? https://discord.gg/5DjF5Nd this discord gives you free signals about every moon mission that is about to happen....

>>4987239
>>4987267
transactions fees, no?

>>4987276
I'm just tired of all these small little updates and the team hating hype, yeah hype can be bad but it can also be good. People only know about this coin because of the community
>>4987282
the difference is I'd trust the ARK team to get ARK to $40 and keep it there than I would the DGB team to get DGB to 10 cents and keep it there

>>4987267
Would it work similar to ETH? I mean all those ERC20 tokens utilized ETH for their ICO pre-sales. Maybe within the Ark ecosystem it will run similarly to that and every new chain will require Ark to purchase any presale tokens from whoever decides to use their ecosystem.

>>4987325
jsut replace "ark team" with "jared" and youll get every delusional dgb comment 5 months ago

>>4987267
From what I understand, when ark swaps currencies it uses ark as an intermediary. They may have been trying to say you wouldn't need to hold ark to swap coins, just go from BTC to ARK then from ARK to ETH in the backend without you being aware of it.

>>4987358
ok
>>4987324
>>4987332
Mike said they want to keep transaction fees as low as possible, I'm not sure how that's gonna affect the price in the long run
I'm reading through the messages and it seems like Mike says they want to not only use ARK as gas but that it should also be a store of value
idk how any of this is supposed to work, the more this project develops the more I have no idea where it's intending on going
>>4987406
would that give it value though?

i have 20 ark in my wallet since september, but i just remembered i still did not vote. does it even matter?

>>4987521
Kek, it would take you more than half a year to break-even from voting.

>>4987537
Tfw not being able to invest more in spaceman

>>4987562
You need to daytrade that shit. You're not going to make it with 20 ARK.

Accumulate Ark for long-term, and if you want to chase some moons on other alts, get on this discord https://discord.gg/5DjF5Nd and they will tell you what's worthy of a chase.

>>4987284
>>4987694
fuck off

ark shit all over the gains i made over months fuck this coin

>>4987667
I know, but I like those 20 ARKs. They are my ARK. I don't want to daytrade them, because I'll get different ARKs.

>>4987034

Well anyway I’m confused and Mike saying this plus the team not interested in marketing makes me think I should sell. I’m not saying the way they go about things is wrong (though I guess it’s easy to not worry about the price when you go from a failed ico to having 90 million or whatever it is) but it doesn’t seem ideal for investors at this time.

>>4987737
Didn’t they just hire a marketing team? I get the feeling that they’re trying to be professional, and not undermine their product with hyperbolic rhetoric.

I can only afford 500 ark, all the crypto I have
I don't care about making it, i just want some cozy bank to buy an econobox or something
Still gonna hodl it all for at least a year or 2

>>4987770

Did I ask for hyperbolic rhetoric? I wanted them to get their name out there like any other project. Tell people where they are going. Seriously how can you expect people to buy in when I’ve been holding for a long time and as of right now I’m confused as to what it’s trying to do.

>>4987737
Mike said numerous amounts of times that he wants to avoid a pump+dump situation with ARK. Retards on here are comparing it to dgb when its nothing like dgb's chart pattern.

Having the price of ARK sky rocket 20-fold then pulse-crash back down would ruin it forever.

At the end of the day ARK is still a work in progress. If some people are really not strong enough to hold onto such a rare opportunity then thats their loss. 2018 will be big for ARK theres no question about it.

If you ask me $3.50-$4 is pretty impressive price seeing that ARK hasn't even grazed the surface with what it truly wants to accomplish.

I was right about antshares, monero, litecoin, all of them month before they mooned, I warned for months for people to accumulate and they laughed. They're laughing at ARK now too.

>>4987939
Sooooo, aim for 3k?

>>4987939
moon moon moon

>>4987939

Being against marketing to the point where even holders no longer understand the purpose of the token is just dumb. Anyway the team is very good (technically anyway) and they have a shit ton of funding so I’m sure eventually they will succeed with whatever it is they’re trying to do. But is it a good option for investors right now? Maybe not.

'sup bagholders?
I got rid of this junk couple of months ago and riding the ltc wave since 78$.

Yo, keep holdin' anons. One day you ll be old, but still holding.

We're too young to get stuck in dead shilled projects. The devs have 3000 bitcoin which they didn't use "publicly". Think again and keep saying mooning 24 times a day, you might get there.. in 2430.

Stay alert.

>>4986784
We are /TheNewElite/.

>>4988048
3k ARK? I don't know. I'm sitting on 17k ARK @ $0.13

>>4988099
They're not anti-marketing, they're anti-hype. Which I agree with. Could they do with some better marketing? Sure. Do they need to market it like crazy right now? No. The product is still unfinished. Lets talk about marketing when ARK VM + SmartBridge Partnerships are complete.

>>4987084
>take 1 milion
>put it in dividend producing assets
>never have to work again

Are you too retarded to do this?

Arkies...

Fucking fuck sellwall again. they don't want it to moon.

>>4988074
Why does this green candle appear to be floating!?

>>4987717
Each Ark is perfectly constructed of pure electrons, with a self-assembling fractal structure that reforms itself perfectly after every transfer no matter the size. Since every electron is exactly the same as the next, every Ark is identical to every other Ark. In fact, you could say there is actually only one Ark in existence, and we all just have small parts of it.

>>4988501
You're an idiot.

>>4986784
Shit's happening on Bittrex rn, might see a quick pump.

>>4986784
Arkies actually believe this

>>4988501
Ark has been developing anti-gravity technology since September.

>>4988669
>>4988628
so manny better answerz
>i heard there's no gravity on the moon
>buoyancy

>>4986876
Well yeah, you don't get free Ark when it rises in value.

>>4986929
Flip it.

>>4988501
There's nothing weird with that chart, what are you talking about?

nothing is comfy like early morning Ark thread

>>4989138
What is it about this coin that makes me not even mad when I lose satoshis?

>>4989281
>>>4989138
>What is it about this coin that makes me not even mad when I lose satoshis?
The staking gives it a sense of security. They are also an impressive team which many seem to trust.

Ark Kmd Strat Qtum all these will do well next year

Someone tell me what this coin is attempting to do that's so revolutionary.

its recovering steadily today.

Today is a good day

I've had 1000 ark for months now. The amount of moons I've missed out holding this shit makes me butthurt even though I bought at 35 cents

>>4990136
I wish I had bought at that, I would have bought 10k.

What is Ark and whu it is better than LTC or BTC or Vertcoin ?

>>4990354
https://ark.io/Whitepaper.pdf
Read the whitepaper brainlet.

How much will an ark be worth in 5 years?

>>4990618
>https://ark.io/Whitepaper.pdf
No, you explain to me here and right now, nerd.

>>4990734
About 50000$

>>4990734
In five years I would say $200 is a conservative estimate

>>4986784
Ark is just going to be like gas in ethereum or neo

IT'S NOT ON POLONIEEEEEEEX HOW CAN I GET SOME ARK REEEEEEEEEE ?!!!

>>4990812
Bittrex.

>>4990812
Bittrex or Binance.

>>4990829
>>4990841
...qu-quick I need to get on that ship, I need to pay back my loan

>>4987034
Correct it’s very fucking confusing

>>4988338
>>4988358
>>4989138
You want million dollar?! Too bad

>>4990734
About a billion trillion $.

>>4990788
>have 1.3k ark

At $200 that's barely enough for a used lambo

Why the fuck would I hold this shit that long

>>4987119
>was
How has it tanked. It's fiat value lows now are much higher than previously. In terms of value in btc, it happens to be in another big dip that follow the same cyclic pattern.

>>4990812
Bittrex or Binance or Cryptopia

1000Ѧ in Ark is the equivalent to the 210Ƀ club in Bitcoin by the way.

>>4990136
Would you have hit all those moons? Probably not. You're not smart/lucky/whatever the fuck enough. Just because you see the moons now, doesn't mean you would have acted on the hunch pre launch. So many all talk about all the pumps they would have got in on, but fact is, you didn't, and it's not ARKs fault. You were free to move at any moment, but you didn't see them coming. Youre probably the type that buys as the pump is in full swing, then goes pink when in dumps on you.

>>4991446
Why? ARK ist uncapped, isn't it?

>>4991844
Technically yes, but a fixed amount of ARK is created daily, thus over time the inflation will be effectively meaningless since it'll be such a small portion of the whole.

>>4991844
There is no inflation since you're staking. You're even extracting extra money from people who don't stake that way.
If i'm in the 1000Ѧ club now, i'll at least be in the 2000Ѧ club when the supply has doubled.
If you have 10% of all Ѧ now, you'll still have at least 10% of all Ѧ in 10 years.

Also, inflation diminishes over time like >>4991938 said.

>>4992110
Here's a chart that i couldn't get in the same post because 4fuck thinks it's spam for some reason.

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>>4992110
>>4992185
Also that was meant for
>>4991844

>>4992221
Oh wait i actually quoted the right person. FML. Polite sage.

>>4987448
>Mike says they want to not only use ARK as gas but that it should also be a store of value

That makes perfect sense

Store of value with interest. Use interest as gas if needing to use the network, still keep crypto holdings.

Whole crypto marketcap will grow X3 next year, some will filter down to ARK. Realistic price expected EOY 2018 $12 - $50. If good things happen after ArkVM release i.e. ICOs etc. then the upper regions, otherwise itll bumble along until it noticed

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>>4993174
Nope, fuck off trying to drain noobs of their money.

>>4993079
>Realistic price expected EOY 2018 $12 - $50
If it's that low EOY 2018 i'll literally kill myself.

>>4993435
Pessimistic. x3 on current price = $12. Realistically, ArkVM launches 3 month range after, $30 - $40.

>>4993079
>EOY 2018 $12 - $50

That's it. I just sold all my stack

>>4993618
Better.

Stop being so fucking pessimistic, every ARK update will have a lot of hype since they hired a marketing company, so i would say 15$ in january 45$ in march and about 100$ eoy 2018 depends how fast they work but ARKVM and the NFC Cards they are working on will make this a very normie investor friendly coin

>>4993621
Good, hand them over.

Hey guys quick question.

Why aren't we $8 EOY? Biz said we would make it

buy ark

>>4994371
Wait for mobile wallets and shit nigga, the year is not over yet

Where's that bag holding redhead?

When can I flip ark and buy back in later? What is the expected time for the peak.

>>4994371
we've just been name dropped in a popular tweet with an interview yet to come. Mobile wallets release & new marketing firm announced.

So we'll probably settle around $5

>>4987155
If Ark hit's $40, it'll do so way before inflation kills the value of $100k a year.