/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49830517
Morons let me explain how mentally retarded you are. Gold is worthless.
Gold is worthless in society collapses. Nobody uses gold in Weimar. Nobody uses gold in Venezuela. Nobody "held gold" in Weimar and "got rich" after because physical gold is a scam and nobody will buy it.
Nobody uses gold in the Black Death. Nobody used gold when Rome collapsed. All the gold stores are outside the empire because it's useless. The gold standard does not stop wars and the largest war in history was fought in the gold standard. The gold standard died because of the trade deficit, it impairs trade and not the budget deficit.
But that's not the point. The point is the stock market simply must die. Boomers live 70 years. 2% of the stock market must be sold every year for estate taxes.
It's impossible for the stock market to exceed 50x gdp. Because taxes are half, and yearly fluctuation is half, is impossible for the stock market to exceed 3x gdp or whatever people actually spend.
30% of the economy is healthcare. 10% is finance paid by interest on other things. 10% is retail. 10% is admins. 20% is government. That leaves only 30% of the economy as actual household expenditure. It's simply impossible for the stock market to exceed what people actually spend by a large multiple because estate tax and lawyers must take it when boomers die.
Us gdp is 20 trillion. The stock market is 49 trillion and bonds are 46. Real estate is 40 trillion and commercial is 16. All these assets added together are 7x gdp.
It's simply impossible for the market to keep growing when the fed is contracting. You will die at last and gold will be worthless. You'll die of peak oil in 6mo. /pmg/ is a retard board and will ignore.
>but gold 2000 years
That's literally the duration of Jewish influence on the west

>First post copypasta post
Never change /pmg/, never change. Kek

My silver will arrive today

Obligatory US Constitutional Guide

Silver: bit dot ly/33ryJBb
Gold: bit dot ly/327ob9T

>>49830517
I have no way of safely storing actual precious metals where I live and paying some custodian is too expensive currently so I'm thinking of buying gold & silver ETFs
Since I want stability and a hedge against inflation, I'm currint all the futures and derivatives baseds ETF with their speculative bullshit
So what's better, bullion/physical backed ETFs that only buy silver and gold or miners ETFs that have mining companies' stocks?
Or is buying actual conpanies' stocks better?

>>49830702
if you don't hold it you don't own it

>>49830650
I'm waiting for my platinum. should arrive Wednesday.
2 kookaburra, or what's his name, and a brittania

>>49830650
>My silver will arrive today

Anyone finding any good deals on gold or silber?

>>49830702
Fuck outta here.

>prices skyrocket to ATH
>try to sell
>"Sorry, sir, we are currently not interested in buying"

KEK. When will boomers learn?

>>49830734
They're all good deals. Just wait till November. You'll be thinking back to these good ol' days of low premiums.

>Estonia is facing the highest inflation in the West
>Estonia will be forced by the EU to tax Silver in a Couple Weeks, making it harder for Estonians to flee their failing currency
Why can't Estonians catch a break?

happy juneteenf everybody

>>49830773
Same shill post as last thread. Are you bot, or hooman?

>>49830797
happy juneteenf

>LMAOOOOO GUYS CHECK OUT THIS 14K GOLD WOMENS QUARTS WATCH THAT I OVERPAID FOR!
>IT JUST FITS MY WRIST PERFECTLY!!!!
>GUUUYYSSS I GOT IT EXPERTLY APPRAISED, IT'S ACTUAL REAL GOLD!!!
>*Priced in CAD*
>IM SO HECKIN BASED LMAOOOOO!!!!!

>>49830734
Gold yes plenty. But there are no good deals on silver.
setf and all that silver squeeze, we did it réddit, yey! shit pushed the price down, and the premiums up.
Buy Platinum. Thanks me later.

>>49830788
>Estonia will be forced by the EU to tax Silver in a Couple Weeks, making it harder for Estonians to flee their failing currency
Sauce? I'd like to share with my non-stacking buddy.

>>49830797

>>49830829
I'm too lazy to find an exact source on the change in tax law, but I've heard a lot of European anons discussing it here.

>>49830712
If I bring it to my small apartment in my third world country I'll not own it within a few days.
And the only places selling it and keeping it in custody (but letting me take it home if needed) are a fucking government bank and unnamed stock exchange approved companies

>>49830734
I recently bought a 10oz bar off Silver Gold Bull for $250.

>>49830883
I found this.
https://www.chards.co.uk/blog/time-to-end-vat-on-investment-silver/1040

Any new updates from mintanon?

>>49830823
Kek, just getting it out of the way huh.

>>49830898
Actually, of the three companies that still sold gold, one stopped, the other only sells gold-backed papers instead of actual gold and the third one only sells a minimum of 250oz, no fractions.

>>49831033
He said last thread that bogs are being shipped out

>>49830734
I bought 5 of these the other day essentially at $260 each

>>49830898
Cut a hole in your wall and store it all inside your walls. When you move out, color match the paint of the piece you cut out at a hardware store, plaster it into place and paint over it.
Otherwise, work as hard as you possibly can to get out of your shithole apartment and into something nicer.

>>49831166
>Color match
Anon, he said third world. I highly doubt his walls are one even color. Just saying.

>>49830985
I bought a 10oz art bar for $305 yesterday. Had my eye on it for months now, and needed to check it off the list. Picked up picrel today with what was left of my disposable income for this paycheck. Next check I'll be overpaying for a booba kilo, but will finally be able to check that off the list as well. After that I'll be back to stacking bars and rounds. Sometimes you gotta pay the price to scratch that itch.

>>49831196
Should be even easier then! The landlord won't be able to tell one random splotch from another.

>>49831143
>50€ over spot, per bar, is a good price
They are nice anon, but a good deal it is not.
>>49830734
See now what i was telling you?

>>49831166
>>49831243
I live in a gated community, but still, you never know with the high crime rates, and I don't even have a car or anything to travel with my gold bars around.
Taking a gold bar inside a bus sounds retarded to me

>>49831356
Get creative.

>>49830773
In a magic world where prices skyrocket with nobody buying.

>>49830734
my LCS sold me 25ounces of silver and 5g of gold at spot price, 19fv for junk this weekend.

Memes aside, how do I use precious metals in a shtf scenario? Do I give a golden coin for food?
Wouldn't it be better to stock up on firearms, ammunition and canned food instead?

>>49830517
Bars

>>49831356
if you live in a third world country an ounce of gold could store an incredible amount of value in a very small place. perhaps goldbacks would make you feel better for their small size.
anyway, if you want to hide actual wealth why not fill a small trash can with obvious jizz rags and empty lube bottoms, first securely placing your gold underneath.

>>49831500
if SHTF and there is no chance of the US government coming back anytime soon then try to use gold to buy live changing purchases. cars, houses, land, daughterwives, guns WITH ammo.
if you think the government will bounce back wait until gold has a high price with the new currency and exchange for their cash and try to ride a way to the top.
silver should be used for food, fuel, and ammo. maybe one night with a FWTDHWAHQAD

however yes, you should have 6 months of food, a few reliable guns(youre more than likely going to gain followers), and at least 1000 rounds of ammo for each.

>>49831500
>ammo and food
Yes. The gold will help after SHTF is over. If the dollar you once held is now worth 0 it may be beneficial to use some of your gold for the new currency in charge or if possible trade for items.

>>49830788
this post hightlights a good point about why gold especially is money which cryptoshitfucks need to understand:
>tax silver... making it harder to flee failing currency
If you can't store your wealth in PMs, where else can you store it?
>Oil
toxic af, explosive, therefore v. expensive to store and transport in large quantities
>Wheat
goes off after about a year, needs a massive barn
>Coal
better than oil but still bulky af
>Copper
Getting better but stil bulky af and will corrode to green dust eventually
>Silver
Better still but will tarnish and is still quite bulky if you store significant wealth
>Gold
Can easily store $millions in a small room, will stay as shiny as the day it came out of the mint unless you put it in aqua regia, easily fungible.
This is why gold is money, not because we "arbitrarily assign value to shiny rock", but because the underlying utility of the metal (whatever that is, but don't try to argue that it has none because you embarrass yourself) combines with these properties of being compact and immutable through time. Other commodities have underlying utility but nothing else (maybe Platinum-group but they are very hard to work into coins/bars) has these physical properties which make it an easy and convenient thing to store wealth in.

>>49831500
Depends on the kind of crisis, obviously. Nobody wants metals in a societal breakdown, but in any situation less severe than that they'd probably moon. Cryptos have no intrinsic value and need internet, while shit like ammo and bottle caps can be made pretty easily. As for guns and food, if you intend to barter them how much of each are you gonna buy? Or do you honestly have years of food stocked? How are you gonna carry all that shit to a trading area? PMs are the standard for a reason, they're ideal money, especially in a crisis.

>>49831798
Isn't it normal for preppers to have huge basements that double as concrete vaults with enough food to last for years and radiation protection?

>>49830517
What about picrel, any anon have an idea if they are worth a damn?
Got them for cheap on an auction, dated 1804 for some locomotive fags gathering. Or smth like that.

Anyone heard of this series?

>>49831438
19x FV? Swiggity swooty...

>>49831862
Here the backside. Got them still with their original certificate. Which is pretty cool given the how old they are.

>>49830824
this

platinum is the buy

>>49830985
That's a good price. Beats my local dealer and he's usually pretty good

>>49831356
Get a pistol to protect yourself. Picrel recommended. I have the XL and fucking love it.

>>49831227
Jesus fucking Christ. People see you coming from a mile away.

>>49832129
Eh, not a fan of the 9 but it does fit the bill. I will always take big and slow. For man protection it's tough to beat the .45

>>49831976
I've been buying fractional platinum, since the premiums stay literally the same. 1/10 ounce kookaburras, and britannias. Britannia come with less than premium than the cocks, but the cocks look cool.

>>49831862
No idea on value, but if they're really 1804, that's some truly early trainfag merch. Def worth a professional appraisal.

>>49832285
And train fags are usually boomers with a lot of money to burn. Might be the deal of the year.

>>49832129
I also have the XL.
I like the way it fits into my hand and the stock night sights are a nice addition.

anyone in EU know where the best platinum deals are? I can only find 1k+

>>49832129
Don't know this one but then 9mm are illegal for civilians here do it's probably too much
People unironically have .22 lever action rifles

>>49830823
>QUARTS WATCH
Only a peasant would be seen wearing a automatic.

>>49832285
>>49832312
>trainfags
kek, ye that's what I figured too. And I ahev the first of the series, dated 1804. Nr8 dated 1834.
But can't find any info about them online.
I can find one listing on ebay, and think it's a fake. Since it says 1ounce, when actually their weight is exactly 50gr

Feels like you fags would know -- what are my options for shelf stable potatoes? The instant potatoes at the store only last like a year. Also looking for whole fat powdered milk options. What I found at my store was expired and the nonfat stuff sounds disgusting

>>49832211
Have an M&P .45 and love it! For my EDC, though, my sig with +p 9mm is most practical. 15+1 hard hitting; a lot more compact and controllable than the .45.

>>49832139
Not a horrible deal for hollow points. Paid cash. Supported like minded stacker and small business owner. What's the problem, anon?

>>49832396
Give me a close up pic of the label or anything making it distinctive. Make it clear and I'll give it a quick search

>>49832449
To each their own. Not knocking the 9. It's tried and true.

Am I missing any?

><<>>< WHY SILVER? ><<>><

>Historically Undervalued
Gold and silver exist in the Earth at about a 1:16 ratio, and this is the ratio they traded at for all of history. However, today these metals are extracted at a ratio of 1:8, but their price ratio has been as high as 1:80! This indicates that, historically speaking, silver is extremely undervalued relative to gold.

>Industrial Need
Silver is used in thousands of technological, industrial, and even medical applications. In fact, it is the second most patented material in the world, just after crude oil.

>Supply and Demand
As silver is used industrially, it is transformed into a form that is not economically feasible to recycle. Because of this, we say it is consumed, and that the supply of silver is continually drained. Not only that, but the world's silver mining output has slowed in recent years. Most silver is mined as a byproduct of base metals, and as demand for base metals decreases, the new supply of silver is also reduced. For these reasons, silver is considered an "endangered element," just like helium.

>Market Manipulation
JP Morgan was once forced to pay a $1,000,000,000 fine after being caught rigging the silver market. They continue to do so, but having friends in low places protects them from being truly held to account. As explained above, silver and gold are coupled in a price ratio, though this ratio is somewhat elastic. The goal of market manipulation is to suppress the price of gold as a means to suppress reported figures for inflation, but the gold market is slow and heavy. Silver is much easier to manipulate, and is therefore suppressed directly in order to drag gold down with it. By suppressing reported figures of inflation, the Treasury is enabled to borrow money at lower interest rates, buying more time before the government is forced to default on its debt or resort to hyperinflating the currency.

All this means that silver has greater potential for gains than gold.

>>49832473
>$300+ for 10oz of silver
>Nearly a buck a round for .45
>Paying a premium for hollowpoints. Hollow points make difference in 9mm. They need the added help to dump the energy but .45s are already big and slow. There's no need to pay up for hollowpoints.
Bud, I'm sorry but you don't make good financial decisions. I used to be a car salesman and I loved guys like you. Youre an easy sell.

>>49832520
Holy shit! Kooka troopa.

>>49832492
Franklinmint keeps coming up qith locomotive silver bars of the era.
But this one's come with French certificate, which is weird, since locomotive was in Charleston
>les medaillier 24 avenue raymond poincare
If going that adress, it's a post office or smth today.
Kek

>>49832520
Psst, they mint them in 1 kilo too.

>>49832520
So I'm a boring silver fag. Basically only stack mass produced easily recognizable low premium silver buuuuuuut, if I decide I want to collect I may be willing to for kookaburra. Those are just cool fucking birds.

>>49832517
9 is fine, but I still carry that .45 in the winter when I can wear a jacket. It's just too big compared to my sig outside of winter clothes.

>>49832593
Fuck do you care how I spend my money? I have a new address in MA and don't plan on shipping ammo there. Live two towns over from cheap cigs and ammo. Again, don't mind supporting local small business owner with higher prices. 10oz art bar is a rare purchase as I mainly stack generic rounds and kilos.
>I used to be a car salesman
I'm a fucking worm.
ftfy

>>49832676
Well there goes whatever is left of my 401k..

>>49832729
lol, sorry.

>>49832492
There's some baguette written also inside the envelope.

>>49832729
Wtf even is that?

>>49832722
>I'm a fucking worm
Maybe, but I'm not a sucker. Can you say the same Imperial?

>>49832593
>I didn't put the bad guy down in 1, but at least I saved $.30 per round! Big ol' kekkers.

>>49832794
Try getting a clear picture of the train on the silver and do a reverse image search on Yandex.

>>49832863
There no place your going to put the bad guy down in 1 with a hollow point that a solid round won't do the same. You bought a meme.

>>49832845
>Maybe, but I'm not a sucker
Nor am I. I wanted to support a fellow stacker and small business. I wanted a particular art bar, so I bought it.
simple as

That's the last (You) you're getting from me, worm.

>>49832875
Did, although not on yandex, and franklinmint keeps coming up
https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw=franklin+silver+locomotive
But mine are le French. And older.
Imma have to ask my numisfrenfag

>>49832313
Fellow sigfren! Best CC pistol ever made.

>>49832941
>Paid $305 for an art bar
Post your art bar instead of your ammo on /pmg/ dumdum and maybe you won't catch so much shit. Instead people, myself included, would.probably be 'miring your bar.
Goddamn your easy to rile up. You really are a sucker.

>>49832999
Try Yandex. You may have better luck, especially since it french.

>>49833010
>Post your art bar instead of your ammo on /pmg/
I don't post what I don't have yet. Ordered art bar yesterday. Bought brass and lead today. Here's some silver, just for you though.

>>49833078
Based silver dildo hoarder. They are laughing at you now, they don't know what's coming.

>>49833078
Why am I not even remotely surprised you have a veiny dick saved on your phone.

>>49833181
>saved on your phone
Give me some credit. I'm not a fucking phoneposter.

I love the American Eagles, but it's a shame they're so, so expensive. I wanted to get a mini-monster box of them, but honestly I think I'm just going to stack kilo bars at this point or buy gold.

There's a part of me that wants to start buying 100g gold bars every 6-12 months and begin a quest to 1kg.

>>49833010
Post stack Anon. All you've done is shit all over the place like it's San Francisco.

I love Drei Marks so much its unreal.

>>49831033
Orders begin shipping out tomorrow, will have them all out by the end of the week! Sorry it took so long please still love

>>49833775

>>49831862
>>49831897
I'm fairly certain you've got bars from the Franklin Mint's Locomotive series of sterling silver bars. Google it. I'm sure you'll find it.

>>49832447
Pressure cooker.

>>49833802

>>49833340
Oo - Nice picture!

>>49830517
Funny thing about the bar right in the center - I had no idea what Wall Street Silver was when I bought it. I thought there really6 was a mint on Wall Street, or associated with it.

Anyone stacking these?

Have 25 oz of pure silver and some 90% junk. Should I start looking into gold or keeping into silver. Currently looking for a job so I don't have much disposable income to sink into pms or crypto

>>49834030
get the job first, then go for some gold. 1/4 ozt at least.

>>49834030
>job
>silver
>gold
in that order

>>49834204
I'd add "Savings" between job and silver. If you lose your job or something comes up, you don't want to have to sell again to pay it off.

>>49833938
Smollest I'd go with gold is a sovereign. ¼ ounce.
Unless it's a great deal and low premium.

>>49833938
>Type 2
Anon, I won't touch those.
I'm fine with type 1 Eagles, but fractionals like that are too high premium for me. I'd be more than willing to buy one if they were at the same premium as an ounce.

>>49833938
>50% premium
>on a modern bullion coin

>>49833775
will you still be putting any on the website? I didn't get the chance to buy one as I am a new stacker.

>>49833775
Nice anon, I'm stoked

>tfw I only have 9oz of gold and 40oz of silver
I hope prices stay relatively low so I can unload more of my fiat

>>49834582
Not sure how many will be left over exactly but yea there should be some available at the end

>>49834692
>9 entire ounces of gold
>only
Bro be grateful, I've been able to "only" get half an ounce of gold so far. 9 ounces of gold is $16,000 that you can fit in the palm of your hand. It's enough money for a good car, a year's rent/mortgage or just about any gun you could want.

>>49834780
$16,000 is not that much money

>>49834692
You're in some luck, I think. Stocks will plummet soon, and boomers will be offloading their paper PMs to cover the losses while they get out. The spot price of PMs will fall for a time, but for the actual price? fuck knows.

keep on stackin

>>49834839
>$16,000 is not that much money
Yes it is shut up

>>49833733
Only got one drei mark, but its my drei mark

>>49834030
GSR is 85-1 go silver

>>49834839
here in /pmg/ we aren't deluded about what a lot of money is, son

>>49834780
16k is literally a years worth of expenses for me. Thats almost HALF my annual income. Jd rather buy silver so I can at least have something more substantial than a fistful.

>>49833672
Sure, I'm Dadanon

>>49834558
People talk about symbolism, but what does it mean when an eagle is landing on an oak branch? Oak is often a sign if military service or something and an eagle landing is a sign of the end of something.
What would that mean? Coming to rest on militarism? Perhaps the coming of a new empire?

>>49835326
Agreed, I do like the bulkiness. A kilo bar of silver is a lot of fun to play with.

what do you guys recommend for storage? its not an option for me to hold it physically right now.
is BullionStar a good choice? im thinking to use the savings plan there.

>>49835162
That's the best design of any Drei Mark by far, but there are a few other really good ones that are a bit underappreciated (as if the Defeat of Napoleon Drei Mark isn't already underappreciated)
>>49835374
If you're referring to the new ASE design, the Oak Branch is there because it's our National Tree (the White Oak, to be specific). The type 2 design doesn't have any meaning, it's just a postmodernist stripping of all the heraldry and meaning from the coin.

>>49831787
>they're taxing Estonia now
I wish my fucking order shipped already, seems like the clock is ticking. That'd put me at 550 ozt silver, 3.5 ozt of Gold

>>49835414
Just keep it in a small inconspicuous box lol.

>>49835504
The walking liberty half dollar also has an eagle on an oak/olive branch and thats far older.

>>49832447
you have two options, either dehydrate the stuff yourself so you get basically mash-powder, or constantly re-grow your stack. There's like a million infographics on growing potatoes.

>>49833733
I wish I had more Fünf Mark, Drei is a nice size as well
I still need a Zwei Mark for the collection...

>>49830517
just buy solid gold rolexes

precious metals have been a depreciating asset since the beginning of time esp if adjusted for inflation

Rate

>>49836030
that's a nice amount of gold anon
how much Ag is that?
Very patriotic stack, I'm puzzled as to why there's no gun in the pic.

>>49836075
That picture gets even worse when you consider the food in 1930 wouldnt have been filled with micro plastics

So, about Uganda.

https://youtu.be/wNSZ_VIHlWk

>>49836030
youre def at the top of the list

>>49836075
Think they said 160:3 when they listed before.

>>49835905
How much did you pay for the 20 Marks?
>I still need a Zwei Mark for the collection...
I hate that those are almost exactly the same price as the Drei Marks while only being 2/3 the size.

>>49836116
and that's already an adjusted version, the original has more stuff for a paper dollar and was made before Weimerica hyperinflation kicked off around the world

>>49836179
451 and 464 Euros respectively (oz prices 1,762€ / 1,813€)
270 for the 10 Mark, that one was pricey as shit but I really wanted it.

Chunky bars are nice, I will have to buy more because these feel great to hold

>>49836218
Nice, that's better than the prices I'm looking at. Still I'm thinking of taking the Plunge on a 20 Mark.
What designs of 20 Mark are most common? If I order a "random design 20 Mark" will I be guaranteed to end up with a Prussian coin or did other Kingdoms have high mintages too?

>>49836452
Pretty much guaranteed to be Prussian, yeah.
Going by german market prices, any other design you get over 20% in premiums on a gold coin, it's insane.

>>49831618
>Who keeps the change?
Isreal?

>>49836476
I guess I'll get the "Random" Prussian 20 Mark at 10% over spot then. I suppose the date and King will still technically be random.
>Going by german market prices, any other design you get over 20% in premiums on a gold coin, it's insane.
Imagine how many of them were melted down after WWI to pay War debts. 20 Marks would've presumable have been as cheap and common as Guilders, Sovereigns, 20 Francs and 20 Lire had Germany not been punished so harshly after the War.

>>49835905
Gibt's bei MA Shop haufenweise lots, um die 6 Euro pro Münze. Hab letztens 16 für 100 bestellt.

>>49832129
>>49832313
Anyone who enjoys precious metals and guns is worth knowing. Stack bullets and shines.

>>49837043
here's some silver to offset all the gun posting we're doing

>>49831356
Gates can be climbed and gated communities are one of the first things to be targeted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTW3BympzCg

>>49832447
>The instant potatoes at the store only last like a year.
They last for eternity if they are were properly prepared. The same goes for all dried/canned products.

>>49837158
If this were true then you would see roaming bands of feral niggers breaking and entering gated properties of greater st Louis attorneys who wear pink brooks Brothers polo shirts while brandishing ar 15s from the front porch

>>49837223
Society hasn't fully collapsed yet. You don't see that because the police are there to protect those people, same reason Jewish schools have armed guards while teachers being armed in goy schools is taboo. Once they decide the pay isn't worth protecting them anymore and those people have free reign to loot anywhere they want instead of being herded into the cities to destroy businesses and lower property value so those same people can buy it up for cheap (remember Robocop?), you'll see some of that.

>>49837158
>image
>"preparing a house for defence"
would this actually work and for how long?

>>49837455
>>"preparing a house for defence"
>would this actually work and for how long?
>cardboard American houses
Until the first Molotov cocktail.

>>49837455
Pretty much this>>49837553 It's a useful image if you're in a defensible position, but in a gated community in a diverse city, you're defending something that's way too high visibility to be worth it. If you're already somewhere built solid in a good / safe location and where weapons are legal, then it's a good starting point. No harm being prepared for an unforeseen riot or black swan collapse though.

>>49837455
>>49837553
Certainly a house this size on a quiet suburban street outside of a metro area will have water, power, and a nice garden with some small livestock and that is worth defending continuously

https://www.jmbullion.com/2021-60-gram-fiji-silver-plated-covid-19-vaccine-shaped-coin/

How is this sold out? Why do people even buy this shit?

>>49837679
Im bored of buying coin-shaped coins. If I could get vaccine in my local pmg shop I think I'd get it. Alternative is 5oz colloseum with huge premium

>>49837679
Because it's safe and effective?

>>49837679
>100usd plated
Oh, nvm

>>49837679
>silver plated chink zinc
>COVID vaccine
>100 USD
On the one hand, robbing goyim (literal translation - "cattle") is barely even immoral when they want to be robbed. On the other hand, seeing shit like this is still uneasy.

>>49832129
Sig is good, considered an AXG - but I like metal frames. Added a bit of nickel to stack with picrel.

>>49833775
>Apologizing for the delay when it's not even your fault, but rather the mint's fault for screwing up
>Not trying to blame the delay on autism as a misdirect
>Understanding ultimately the bucks stops with you, and owning it regardless
Respectable!

>>49832520
95 is my favorite.

>>49830517
>Silver Bars Edition

Are precious metals allowed as well?

For once can we please try not feeding you-know-who replies.

>>49839908
Goldemort.
There, I said it.
Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself.

>>49839729
Sure if you actually post some

>>49839999
Oh what a fucking waste.

>>49839908
>Gibs silber bars

Happy to oblige fren

>>49839999
Checked, and you've most certainly doomed the thread.

>>49840040
I couldn't help myself, the pun was overpowering.
Have some silver bars, as I should have started with.

>>49840066
Checked again, and you've been forgiven. Have tiny gold in return.

>>49832517
>>49832716
Dat glawk fotey be my prolem solva

>>49839908
mmmh fat fucking silver bars

>>49832593
Why would you not use hollows regardless of caliber. Pmg fuddlore coming out lol
Heh muh 45 dont need hollows

>>49833340
We stacking weight. Good choice. The eagles are dead for now. If they come back to planet earth load up

>>49832593
I just like making huge holes in kikes and niggers like you.

Is there going to be a big sell off when demand destruction hits? I have been getting more discount emails lately and at work our prices have been falling.

>>49840599
nice serial number nigger

This seems promising.

>>49841087

Buwhahaha!

>>49841071
call me if you find my number

>>49832520
Don’t forget the high relief proofs and the kooklets

>>49832520

>>49841321
That’s an older pic, I’m just waiting on a 2004 to complete the date run now

>>49832129
Im jelly for americans how easily they can get a handguns. Techically its not impossible here but quite hard. I own only hunting weapons. Small pistol would be comfy as hell.

Thinking about selling part or all of my money tree, how do I go about it and is it possible to avoid ebay?

>>49841612

>>49832520
2021 10oz

>>49841339
You going to bite the bullet and get it off ebay at any price? Your running out of time kook lad and its only one coin you need.

>>49830823
success breeds jealousy

>>49837223
kek
good one

>>49841612
I want a holo coin so bad

>>49831227
>Sometimes you gotta pay the price to scratch that itch.
iktf.

>>49832520
what about in 2oz?

>>49831897
Silver is silver. Probably sterling. Don't pay more per oz than you would for a Krug/MapleLeaf/Britannia.

any other crypto bros discreetly cash out over the past year or so?

The only thing that brics me up harder than buying metal with fiat debt is buying metal with crypto.

I got these earing for the fiancée at my local coin shop 2g of 14k gold for 80 bucks.

she likes um so i dont mind paying a few bucks over spot. what do you anons think of the scoop?

>>49832941
I really hope my dick never ends up in a sack with like 100 other dicks. cuz that would be super gay.

>>49842078
bought my first quarter oz jsut before the crash when I got that feeling there was too much cash in my account but crypto was already down

>>49832520
That is quite a feat - congratulations!

>>49835347
I do appreciate that layout

>>49842144
>bought my first quarter oz jsut before the crash when I got that feeling there was too much cash in my account but crypto was already down

Well done.

I tried to get my crypto bros to use metals as part of their stable bag (or just dump them into a loan and borrow against them if they must) ... a few did but most did not.

Without delving too into crypto on PMG I will note failure of stables [read: USDT] will teach a painful lesson to those who've failed to grasp "counterparty risk" and how metals are one of the few counterparty-risk-free assets around.

Can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em drink.

>>49842088
They're pretty

>>49842364
yea, this girl is my walking gold stack. my silver is for round collecting

>>49841657
>I will never have a meme collection this impressive
I should've bought them when I had the chance

>>49842088
Jewelry is under appreciated here imo. You probably got a good deal on those if you paid just a few bucks over spot. The artistic value of such things can be hard to appraise and determine, but there's great potential in the massive premiums such items can fetch

Might post my collection of recovered pieces I found while treasure hunting

>>49842564
i dont count price for the stones. only weight of the metal
spot for 14k is like 32 or 34 a gram, the guy i got it from im pretty sure gave me a good deal. he sells me 2016 mexican libs for like 28 a piece. can be flipped all day for 40-50 on ebay

>>49842564
>my collection of recovered pieces I found while treasure hunting

Post 'em bro

>>49842252
>Can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em drink.
These past few years have driven this point home especially hard.

>>49841983
>Your running out of time
>Your
Imagine listening to doom and gloom economics, from poorgrammaranon

>40 year high inflation
>silver in decline
Yeah I'm thinking there's tampering

>>49842564
>mfw anytime i metal detect for anything all that comes up are bullets and cigarette carton foil.
Fuckers cleaned out all the good spots in my region 40ish years ago, but the random coin or bigger nugget still pops up here from time to time.

>>49842762
Give it to us, precious.

>>49834558
type 2 is superior

>>49842564
>mfw just won an auction for a gold ring at -30% spot

Test

Our time is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H0JspkiRc0

>>49842762
With the exception of two rings I bartered for, I found all of these

Left to right, amusingly tiny 10k ralph lauren, .925 with pearl, 14k with rock, matching pair .925 with rocks, .925 ring with rock, two italian .925 with rocks, .925 earing with rocks, .925 earing plated in 10k, plated 10k .925 ring with tiny rocks, sadly cut .925 ring with big amethyst, .925 ring kinda ugly, .925 with garnet, pair of .925 with rocks, various studs in .925 with rocks, .925 spoon ring, three chains in different K

>>49843418
Comments welcome.

>>49842439
Do not give up anon, did not get any of the new cause situation's though now

>>49842791
Why aren't we the little bitch today.

>>49842791

>>49843361
Fake Ring lmao

>>49843361
>it's only 9ct

>>49843905
one of the top reputable sellers in my country, so I doubt it. Still won't hurt to do an acid test when I get it ofc.
Ukrainian refugees are dumping their valuables and I'm here to slurp all those cheapies

>>49844041
14k, 7g with a small stone that I guesstimate is around 0.5g, paid around ~$160

>>49844148
Based. Well done.

>>49831227
>booba kilo,
Argentia?
Not if i get em all first fagboy

Hey fellas. Haven't posted in a while. Been lurking. Just got my first 2 gold ounces.....2 Krugerrqnds both dated 1981. After breaking 1000oz of silver I decided to start focusing on more gold. These are sexy but I'll probably go for something 24k pure next time just to shake it up. Krugs are awesome tho

>>49844878
dont you love the chocolate patina on copper alloyed gold? I can't justify anything else because my autism prefers harder coins.

>>49844878
Impeccable taste. Welcome to the krug frens club.

>>49845042
Also, fuck niggers.

>>49844964
Ya they're beautiful. I'm with you on the copper alloy. I like to actually be able to handle them and I wouldn't be comfortable doing that with pure gold

>>49830734
I've been buying 100 Coronas at 2% premium

>>49845042
Thank you. I bought 100 silver Krugs last year and have been wanting gold ones for a while. Worth the wait.
>>49845073
Indeed

Things are getting pretty spicy, a storms a brewing

>>49845078
Gold is like the shiny charizard pokemon card; it's too pretty to fuck with. even though I'm still autistic with my silver I can appreciate fondling them a hell of a lot more.

>2oz kraken fondle piece master race

Has anyone else gotten to the point in stacking where more silver is just not that attractive anymore? Especially with the premiums? What quantity got you feeling that way? 800oz for me. Maybe I'll feel different when my gold to silver ratio is 1:100

I've got enough PMs to make me comfy, and realized the old stuff is beginning to interest me. Apmex had these 'on sale' (which I realize there means "not as offensive") so I got one. It's not evoking the feeling of awe I was hoping for, but it's still way cool in my book.

>>49845078
the idea that gold is fragile is total cope, i've got a 2oz pure gold coin and even trying really hard I can't bend it, could with a vice or something sure but it's pretty durable

Why are jm bullion and apmex $50 more expensive for a 1/10 gold eagle than everywhere else? Is it just reputation? Am presently goldless but want to change that before the impending collapse

>>49845467
It's more about scratching. These 1981 krugs are perfect.. no marks no discoloration.. I thought I was gonna have to spend extra to get from apartheid Era but this is what bullion exchanges sent me so it was a double win

>>49845473
>Why are jm bullion and apmex more expensive
Because they can be.
And with the power of the Internet, we can shop elsewhere.

>>49845473
>buying 1/10th of an ounce
already dumb, wouldn't go lower than 1/4 of an ounce and even then that's not ideal
>buying american gold eagle with its insane premium instead of buffalos or just cast stuff

if you can't afford to buy an ounce of gold just save or keep the cash, you face a decent chance of having to sell your gold to pay a debt or emergency if you are that poor.

>>49845270
Ya one of silver krugs arrived with a bad scratch and some patina so that's my main fondled. Got some 2oz monarch chunkies and they're also a good fondle choice. Got 10 like Pic related but this is a generic photo

>>49830517
Anyone here know anything about the value of fucked up coins?
I was about to cash in $50 worth of change. While I was going through it I found a 2006 north Dakota quarter that's been triple clipped & the border is bent onto the lettering.

>>49845710
Other side

>>49842209
Stand a cross up behind the buffalo and you have a beautiful picture yourself.
God, gold, grain ground and guns is all you need.
"Does God not provide for the sparrow, who cares not where the grain comes from nor sows any for himself? Are you not more precious to him than it? If you have God you'll get the grain. If you have gold you'll get the ground. If you have guns you'll keep them both."

>>49831500
Why do retards always go with the
>you either stack precious metals or other things

It reeks of poor

>>49843458
Very nice treasures anon, are they beach detecting scores?

Pic is my last eyeballed surface find, a '62 rosie

>>49845710
If you're just looking for fv assuming that isn't a rare coin or something then it could be mangled to all fuck and banks will still accept it. Similarly to bills you have to have 51% legally. Most banks won't accept it less than 3/4 whole but you can ask them to help you and they will assist you in sending the note or coin in for a replacement. Obviously no one is going to waste time doing this for a coin. Or any bill under a $50 probably. My bro in law was a bank manager. He said he would take any bill that looked "mostly there" usually just as a service to his clientele. He's a people person

>>49845827
Holy Fuck, how can one post be so based!

>>49830788
>making it harder for Estonians to flee their failing currency
Estonians use the Euro. That inflation is the local CPI.

>>49845827
What is that like 10k ounces??

>>49845864
No, I mean coin collectors will pay a lot of $$$ for coins that were screwed up when they were made.
I don't think the coin was run over or something. The way the bordering is layered on top of the lettering makes me believe it was made this way

>>49845892
25 and some change.

>>49841290
where did you get that 1/10th coin capsule at the top left? it's cool.

posting to claim ID!!
hoping for +SILVER

>>49845914
Oh OK. I have never seen a strike error fuck up a coin like that but who knows. The reason misstrikes make it out into the world is because they're usually too small to notice by the QAQC pros at the mint. Something like this would not pass visual or strike inspection (coins run through a machine to assure proper dimensions and weight before being released) so I highly doubt this was made this way. Maybe tho who knows

>>49845827
you dont NEED a literal sniper rifle

>>49842252
if you got your stack with meme money, you are a king. you invested, made a profit off retards (that's how profits are made) and put it into tangible objects instead of holding it to 0.
Good job, anon

>>49845933
Wow. Thats awesome. How long have you been stqcking?

>>49845710
>triple clipped & the border is bent onto the lettering.

That's post-mint damage unfortunately so it's not worth more than .25, good looking out though

>>49845403
>It's not evoking the feeling of awe I was hoping for, but it's still way cool in my book.

It is a cool coin but I don't really get the sense of awe and "muh ancestor" feels from coins outside the Greek and Roman or medieval European realms.

>>49846048
You do if you want to shoot something 800 meters away.

>>49846048
Need? As an American I have my AR and sniper rifle because I can

>>49845042
Krug club is the best.

>>49846072
>Greek and Roman or medieval European
Hm. Good point. I was think broader, like humanity in general.
Any vendors of more Western and silver you can suggest that don't take advantage of ignoramuses like me?

>>49845710
>>49845737
Future “I know what I have” material. 50 bucks minimum.

>>49846065
Not my stack unfortunately. Just a great pic that goes with my quote.

>>49846048
Also you just putted yourself as a liberal. That's a fairly basic hunting bolt action set up. You only see a sniper rifle because it's a scary black color. Go back.

>>49846241
Great thing about krugs. Everyone knows what they are and that tiny bit of allow keeps them looking nice. Not a fan of maples because they are too damn soft.

>>49846453
>Everyone knows what they are
I wish, there's still a sizable portion of US bullion buyers that think only silver eagles, US 90% and Morgan/Peace dollars are the only valid forms of silver out there. People sell nasty common date Morgans for $40-$50 at gun shows and they get gobbled up.

>>49846048
faggot, just because a rifle has a scope on it doesnt make it a sniper. Go get your 5th booster shot and fuck off

>>49831500
>how do I use precious metals in a shtf scenario
You don’t. Nobody wants gold when everybody’s starving.

>>49846563
>shitty $300 bolt action rifle has scope/magnifier thrown on it
>"I'm the dedicated sniper guyz"
Name a more annoying gunfag, hard mode no fudds

you dont need an armalite sniper. you dont have borders.

>>49846566
Projecting a bit there aren't you bud. Ill slurp up all the PM's when anyone wants to trade for any of the shit I have amassed.

>>49846566
Of course there will be people that want gold, it'll be the people selling the food everybody needs. "Oh I'll just shoot them for the food" like shit you will, they'll have more leverage and hired protection than anybody in a social collapse. Hell I'd love being a based farmer's bodyguard as a "collapse job". I would have silver, food, and trust from the most important person in the community.

>>49846677
>Name a more annoying gunfag, hard mode no fudds
3pers lol

Where 2 get good but not overly ornate silver ware?

>>49846677
The most annoying gunfags are boomers who think 1911's are the best handguns ever made.

>>49846542
Maybe the silver, I've never met someone that doesn't know what a gold Krug is. But you're not kidding about the idiots and their Silver Eagles. I Ve been trying to grab a monster box off of estate sales. 500 SE are going for over 20k.

>>49845140
>>49846241
Unveiled my gold krug stack.

What’s the ideal ratio of gold to silver??

>>49846778
If you ever in the N.AZ area you can work for my post SHTF brewery/farm. Supply food and booze to the hopeless masses lol

>>49846871
nice, I also recently joined the gold krug club

>>49846677
First, not my gun, already said that.
Second, a Ruger is about as solid of a gun as you can get. Cheap doesn't mean bad.
Third, that's not a cheap gun. $300 wouldn't even buy that scope. Keep showing your ignorance.

>>49846999
Tikka is better in every way

>>49846903
Keep it within shouting distance of the GSR and you're doing ok.

my good friend anon, hes in the pmg
(oowee oowe)
hes got a sniper
to protect his metals please believe
(woowee)

>>49847055
Not overpaying for a tacticool thanks. 300 winmag all day every day.

>>49846999
Checked, Trips of truth. I've been saying that for a long time. I'm not down playing the importance of having good gear but you can get good gear without dropping an arm and a leg for it. If it works and does its job there is nothing wrong if you didn't drop thousands. Faggot ass /k/ommando gear queers are just trying to stroke their own egos.

>>49846979
If a collapse happens, think of how valuable booze will be. 90% of Americans are regularly taking some kind of mood-altering drug, be it booze, weed, ssri's, nicotine, "hard" drugs, etc. If the supply chain for most of that shit collapses people will be desperate for any kind of chemical that prevents them from facing reality sober, especially if living conditions in general become way shittier than they used to be. Humans have always sought mind-altering chemicals, but never in recent history have so many people regularly taken chemicals with highly addictive qualities. Even in the wild west of pharmacology where snake oils were all the rage, a relatively small amount of people were taking that shit and most of them weren't addictive, they were just bullshit.

all you need is a few claymore and to steal some kilos of rock salt from the boxes outside (for when it snows)

>>49847130
Im not talking about the TAC A1 which is tacticool
.308 is the best round and their standard bolt actions are simply the best quality rifles you can get in the price range

>>49833938
Yes, but not at those prices. Ebay has them for $215 atm.

Just managed to liquidate my entire gold stack (5 ounces). Believe it or not I got $9,050 for the 5 ounces. Whew lads, pulled a fast one on that shop. The retard didn’t even know about the Uganda news and flooding of the global market. Going to buy some silver

>>49846262
>Any vendors

Sure, I like eBay because that's where good deals can be found, here's my pasta:

When buying ancient coins on eBay, you must always check the Fake-Sellers lists for the seller's user ID to determine if they are trustworthy:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=18502.0
http://augustuscoins.com/ed/fakesellers.html

Some legit sellers occasionally have fakes slip through too so checking fake coin reports for the specific issues can be helpful, but generally not necessary for most common sub-$100 coins:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/

For identifying coins, these online encyclopedic databases are fantastic:
https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/i.html
https://www.asiaminorcoins.com/

Sellers I've bought ancients from with no issues, many are European so you need to select the "Worldwide" refinement under the "Item Location" section on the left side of the page or you won't see anything. Some sellers don't have anything listed right now but you can check their completed listings to see what they deal in:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/ancient_treasures/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/brunswickthaler/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/blueonceagain/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/ambrussum34/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/alasu_gkha/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/variana_museum/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/romabritanicus/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/fortuna-m/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/ptolomeos11/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/lellien/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/cichosgladiator11/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/numismatiklanz/m.html
Personal favorites, del550 has great stuff but crappy low-effort listings so good deals can often be scrounged:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/numismatik-koc/m.html
https://www.ebay.com/sch/del550/m.html

I dinged my 2oz coin today. I wanted to know, if i went to a pawn shop / gold and silver store, would they say this affects the price? Im not actually wanting to sell it but just wondered what they'd say if i wanted to sell one day.

>>49847465
you'd still get melt, you've probably lost any premiums you might expect to get though

>>49847465
anyone buying it for non numismatic reasons won't care, maybe a tiiiiny deduction

>>49847465
I would kick you out of my store and you’d be blacklisted in the PM community.

>>49847461
So cool - thanks!

>>49847465
That's hardly noticeable, I doubt they'd knock off much.

>>49830702
>I have no way of safely storing actual precious metals where I live and paying some custodian is too expensive currently so I'm thinking of buying gold & silver ETFs
You dont have a bedframe or a water pipe you can chain a lock box to? Dont buy paper gold Anon.

>>49833733
Checked. Nice collection. Finally something with taste compared to those cringe and debased .600 ( lmfao) 2 Reichsmarks anons keep getting fleeced on.

>>49847509
I have wondered about my fondle coin, is melt value equal to spot?

What’s the ideal ratio of gold to silver??

>>49845473
Buy francs if you want fractional

>>49847220
>308 is the best round
It's the best all around round that's true. Especially if you run it in both your long range rifle and your battle rifle like an ar-10 or FN-scar. Always good to be able to stock up on only one kind of ammo.
Still prefer the 300 for long distance though. Even in the highest end composite plate body armor you take a .300 winmag to the plate you're put of the fight. Sledgehammer blows to the sternum are not fun.

new thread?
Use my stack in OP please

also gave away 7 coins for Christmas to children in the family
their retarded parents dont own any silver or gold

>>49847689
0:1

>>49847190
Exactly, Besides the normal prepper shit we are holding on to pharmaceuticals and trauma/surgical gear. Booze and weed are the easiest things to make and will be damn near worth weight in at least silver if not gold.

no guys you cant suddenly not want gold any more. i have ordered 25 SIM cards and have some more gold to get off of these PCBs

>>49847387
Man you sure saw that guy coming huh. Good on you anon. Way to stick it to the Jew and leave them holding worthless gold.
So have you thought about where to put your money next? I heard about this great coin called shibaobamainusonichillarybitcoincash that just launched. Developers are out of India so you know they know their tech!

>>49847465
>if i went to a pawn shop / gold and silver store, would they say this affects the price?

No. It only affects the price if you're trying to sell to a coin dealer/collector above spot.

>>49847722
>Booze and weed
Based vice stacker. Booze cigs porn and drugs are recession proof.

>>49847737
I’m putting most of it in silver because hood is rapidly losing scarcity.

>>49847722
Anyone stack research chems, for research purposes?

>>49847705
Im not settled at my permanent residence so I only have a limited amount of guns and I buy centered around the all around approach so that if shtf and I need to grab n go, I know Ive got the best odds of finding ammo and parts either through looting or trading. Once Ive got a castle to protect Ill branch out into the more specialty stuff like .300

>>49847788
In a collapse situation all these strong independent women will be selling their bodies for turnips. I don't see porn really being worth all that much.

>>49847560
Happy to help fren, be sure to post any ancient eBay scores if you find things you like. I've gotten most of my ancients for half or less of the going eBay market rate whereas places like crAPMEX probably charge 2x, so i ignore exorbitantly priced retailer dealers and for the most part just lurk for extra good "sleeper" deals on eBay. Ya don't want to pay a penny more than necessary for stuff like this because it's not highly liquid so if you're caught in a bind and forced to liquidate you want to be able to get at least your principal back out.

>>49847845
Hey, I'm not knocking you at all. I went with a .308 scar specifically because it's the most common round in my country. Easier to find = less chance of running out when shtf plus cheaper if things go barter.

NEW THREAD

>>49847875

>>49847858
it will be worth something
I dont think you understand the massive amount of death and destruction that awaits us all

Silver and Gold stacking is an optimistic outlook on the future believe it or not
you really expect the government to fix itself?

>>49847858
Women will get snagged up by Chad's in harems. Coomer's always going need coomer material. If you've ever met a porn addict they often prefer porn to real women. Sad actually.

>>49847840
I stack DMT
>>49847858
>>49847903
families will be selling their daughters for a bottle of jack, itll be worth something but not nearly as much
>>49847880
ive been wanting to build a FAL but parts are so hard to get I dont think its a great idea

>>49846262
numiscorner

>>49847920
If you got the funds go with the FN-Scar17. It's expensive but worth it, especially over the AR. I haven't heard good things about the fall so I avoided it, but some people really like them.

>>49840667
Do you guys care which kilo you stack? It's hard coming from the >>aesthetic<< of coins to a generic 32 ounces, but I do want to pile on the weight while we cheap.