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Titanium Edition

>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Bullion dealers
https://jmbullion.com/ (US)
https://goldsilver.be/en/ (BE/EU/UK)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Russian/European coins
https://oldsilver.ru/ (EU/UK/US)

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>News
https://kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid, Magnets and Ping Test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>Relevant information regarding mining companies
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

Previous Thread: >>49803013

>> No.49820873
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First for meme money.

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>>49820845
Has anyone here seen a 2021 5oz libertad for sale at non-rape prices?

>> No.49820955

>>49820932
No-one has seen any Libertad at a sensible price for a year now.

>> No.49821018
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>prices skyrocket to ATH
>try to sell
>"Sorry, sir, we are currently not interested in buying"

KEK. When will boomers learn?

>> No.49821064

>>49820955
sad facts. was nice to see i could flip my '19 and '20 for about 2x the metal weight though

>> No.49821078

>>49820873
i wish they had rounded the corners, 90 degree laminated points suck. to avoid clipping (which is possible now, it would just take 4 cuts) they could just have an outer border in the design

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>>49821018
>>prices skyrocket to ATH
>>try to sell
>>"Sorry, sir, we are currently not interested in buying"
>sell on ebay instead for high markups
>...
>profit, shitcoiners seethe
feels good stacking real money boys

>> No.49821185

>>49820955
>>49820932
are the old 50 peso ones desirable? I could've bought one at 6% over spot but passed on it

>> No.49821366

>>49821136
>ebay
>barely any liquidity during the ATH
>sell at best 7% of stack
>seethe then cope
>n-never s-selling b-bitches

LOOL!!!

>> No.49821402

>>49821366
it's ok friend, you can tell us how much you lost on shitcoins this week, we won't laugh at you

>> No.49821434

I’m so fucking comfy bros, my comfort levels are off the charts right now

>> No.49821477

>>49821185
>50 peso ones desirable
the gold onzas? fuck yeah man. i almost bought one just to have as a fondler when they were still 1500. shoulda woulda coulda

>> No.49821498
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>>49821402
Tell us how much you missed out on by not flipping shitcoins

>t. 5200% last year sold in May

>> No.49821537
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><<>>< WHY SILVER? ><<>><

>Historically Undervalued
Gold and silver exist in the Earth at about a 1:16 ratio, and this is the ratio they traded at for all of history. However, today these metals are extracted at a ratio of 1:8, but their price ratio has been as high as 1:80! This indicates that, historically speaking, silver is extremely undervalued relative to gold.

>Industrial Need
Silver is used in thousands of technological, industrial, and even medical applications. In fact, it is the second most patented material in the world, just after crude oil.

>Supply and Demand
As silver is used industrially, it is transformed into a form that is not economically feasible to recycle. Because of this, we say it is consumed, and that the supply of silver is continually drained. Not only that, but the world's silver mining output has slowed in recent years. Most silver is mined as a byproduct of base metals, and as demand for base metals decreases, the new supply of silver is also reduced. For these reasons, silver is considered an "endangered element," just like helium.

>Market Manipulation
JP Morgan was once forced to pay a $1,000,000,000 fine after being caught rigging the silver market. They continue to do so, but having friends in low places protects them from being truly held to account. As explained above, silver and gold are coupled in a price ratio, though this ratio is somewhat elastic. The goal of market manipulation is to suppress the price of gold as a means to suppress reported figures for inflation, but the gold market is slow and heavy. Silver is much easier to manipulate, and is therefore suppressed directly in order to drag gold down with it. By suppressing reported figures of inflation, the Treasury is enabled to borrow money at lower interest rates, buying more time before the government is forced to default on its debt or resort to hyperinflating the currency.

All this means that silver has greater potential for gains than gold.

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>>49821498
Wow! You turned .45 in to 22.50. you must be proud!
Must suck to be so broke you can't even afford 1 silver round.

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>>49821539
Is that metal nerds seething? I hold silver too btw but it's dog shit to hold and does nothing.

>> No.49821579
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crypto nerds will seethe

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>>49821537
>inb4 what if gold gets remonetized
Okay, let's examine that scenario. If you take every Dollar in existence and divide it by all the above ground gold, you get a Dollar To Gold Ratio of $14,070 per ounce of gold. If the gold to silver ratio then corrects to its historical value of 1:16, which is what has happened every time in history there's been a monetary crisis, then the projected price of silver would be $879.
If you take these projected values and divide them by gold and silver's current prices of $1849.90 and $21.93, then gold's price will have risen by 760% and silver's price will have risen by 4,002%.
In short, silver has over five times more upside than gold in this scenario.
>But the ratio won't snap back like that!
Then it would be the first time in history. If you really want to bet on that, then I think I have far better chances than you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBGNC_LOCMU

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>>49821185
>desirable
My preference is to buy what appeals to me based on my assumption that buying PMs simply storing my surplus wealth, not growing it. I want to enjoy having it, and not begrudge the space it takes up and stress over the fluctuations in its price.

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tune out the haters
keep on stackin the metal

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>>49821736

>> No.49821790
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>>49820873
Goldbacks. Also don't forget to stack useable skills Anons. We never know what tomorrow holds, you will never regret being prepared.

>> No.49821799

>>49821721
She’s got her tiddys out. That counts as desirable to me. Though I’d just buy one then back to Britannias

>> No.49821839
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First for lassenposting on comfy Sunday morning

>> No.49821848

>>49821018
I bet this FUD was popular in the 70s kek

>> No.49821851
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>>49821799
>That counts as desirable to me.
Then you'll be happy, damn the price. I've paid too much for many coins.

>> No.49821869

goldbacks are a scam

coins shops don't want to buy them

>> No.49821873
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>>49821018
>prices skyrocket
>that means it's no longer desirable

>> No.49821880

>>49821558
>Does nothing
So you don't know how to trade silver? Well that's all you had to say. This is a comfy thread. We can teach you the ways of the stackers so you know how if you ask nice.

>> No.49821894

>>49821869
>gold is a scam because i can't sell them
you clearly cannot afford to stack if you want to sell

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>>49821078
>to avoid clipping (which is possible now, it would just take 4 cuts)

MFW Jews invented goldbacks so they could have something besides foreskins to clip again

>> No.49821914

>>49821894
he said golbacks retard

>> No.49821926

>>49821914
they are gold, you retarded kike

>> No.49821966

>>49821926
1/1,000 oz yeah. Nobody wants to buy that meme garbage. But go ahead buy everything you can

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>>49821894
The children that sperg against goldbacks their argument basically boils down to the old "my dad could be up your dad" argument. My gold is better than your gold, kek

>> No.49822000

>>49821966
i will take goldbacks over the shticoins you are here to shill

>> No.49822025

>>49821873
Anon has a cautionary point.
Dealers also speculate, and at ATH, they may not want to buy, banking on the prices coming back down and then they'd take a loss.
Your ridicule would be valid if prices only went up. That's another speculation.

>> No.49822039

>>49822000
You'll take goldbacks over .999 coins? Fucking idiot

>> No.49822047

>>49821869
A pretty scam. Wish I didn’t have quite so many given my small silver stack. I wouldn’t care I I was paying US prices Of about $4. Still want a couple more then 1 of the new ones when they come out. >>49821851
Yeah. I paid double normal price for. Round for some proof coin I really liked. I know super high quality limited ones go for more.. say £99 but I can’t justify them.

>> No.49822057

>>49821018
Imagine not being able to sell gold. Amerimutts are retarded

>> No.49822079

>>49822025
if prices are at ATH that means people are buying it at ATH.
hope this helps

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>>49821999
Whoa - trips checked!
That said, goldbacks currently sell at almost twice spot. That's huge.
The other hope is, this will become a sort of currency. It might. If it does, there will be more manufacturers of the stuff. Its premiums will come down. Early purchases will lose out.
But it's certainly lovely stuff.

>> No.49822150

>>49822025
In Canada bullion dealers buy and sell ata any price

>> No.49822151

>>49822079
Almost. It means it *had been* traded at an ATH. The next and following hours do not hold that assurance.

>> No.49822171

>>49822079
Don't try to use logic with crypto nerds, you're wasting your time.

>> No.49822215

>>49821839
>Posts same pic with one fish over and over again
Post another pic with a different fish to prove you actually fish or you’ll forever be a onefishfag.

>> No.49822251

>>49822215
this
nothin worse than a onefishfag

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>>49822039
Why you so angry little man? You loose one of your sovs in your prison wallet pleasuring yourself this morning?

>>49822130
And they are by far some of the best looking fine gold items you can get. Also on a side note the amount of energy they put in to sperging out about what other men are doing is real gay. You could also argue its much harder to fake goldbacks than it is to fake a gold/silver coin.

>> No.49822303

>>49822039
you have no coins. you only have crypto and maybe jew/chick jewelry or spoons

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>>49821721
My stack is part best price per weight no matter the form and part stuff I personally enjoy (10% of my silver, roughly half of my gold)
6% was too high for "junk" gold and I wasn't sure if these typically have high premiums so I gave it a pass

>> No.49822360

>>49822025
>and at ATH, they may not want to buy
Sure, they're privately owned business and can do whatever they want. But historically we've had runs of several years where ATH comes after ATH (last 2008-2011) and gold owners never had trouble finding buyers. The designation "ATH" is not really a useful one in the moment. Markets don't just pause and automatically reverse when an ATH is hit. If we assume the basic function of gold (hedge against inflation by preserving purchasing power) actually works, you would *always* expect new (nominal) ATHs to eventually come in.

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>>49822039
>You'll take something that's durable, portable, divisible, and fungible over something that's durable, portable, divisible, and fungible? Fucking idiot

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>>49822354
It's certainly a balance, and relative to how wealthy you become. The more fiat you have, less concern you have over price of something you like.
Pic related, I bought these at an embarrassingly absurd premium. That was too much, I rather regret having done so, and it has taught me to be more discerning.

>> No.49822466 [DELETED] 

>>49820845
try

>> No.49822488
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>>49820845
>Titanium Edition
Oh crap - I only just noticed this.
Here you go...

>> No.49822542

>>49821018
Anti-silver shills have the hardest job of all the shills. Every argument/talking point they use is laughable at best, and easily refutable lies at worst. I can only assume it's new JIDF employees who get stuck with the anti-silver shilling. Shilling on pol is easy and actually looks like it could be fun if you're into telling lies for attention, but the silver shills have an impossible job that can't pay well if they're paid based on number of responses.

>> No.49822602

>>49820828
Im going to use my own money to meet the goal so it finishes. Id likely have to extend it two weeks so my paycheck lines up, but it will be made

>> No.49822645

>>49822130
Love this pic, anon. Would cover my walls in goldbacks to be honest.

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>>49822488
>Here you go...
Thank you anon. That's one half portion for you.

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>>49822215
>>49822251

>> No.49822689

>>49822408
yes, much in the same way most people would take a US dollar over a Argentinian peso. Just because two things claim to do the same thing doesn't mean they both effectively achieve it.

>> No.49822708

>>49820845
Bog news
> 6/18/2022 – Bogs Ship Monday
So stoked for these

>> No.49822709
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britannia coin company got a deal on maples at the moment, £252 for 10. Bargain. 2nd hand so VAT free.

>> No.49822730

>>49822684
Nice crocs, nerd, did your mom buy those for you?

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>>49821839

>> No.49822776
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>>49820845
Peace Dollar Lady more beautiful than Morgan dollars lady
The facts have been checked.
Conclusive results = very Yes

>> No.49822788

>>49822684
Impressive, very nice.

>> No.49822849

>>49822730
I'm the one taking the picture obviously

>> No.49822861

>>49822776
Definitely agree.
>>49822469
Do you not have reading comprehension? The Spanish had it for 300 years, but it took out 28 for them to lose 75% of their empire.

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>>49822684
>based county of the sea enjoyer
Those amoured Porgy makes some good meal for a hungry hero

>> No.49822892

>>49822684
Ling cod and rockfish! Pacific NW?

>> No.49822895
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>>49822776
you know it

>> No.49822955

>>49822892
Shelter cove near the mouth of the eel River. There's a underwater plateau where they hang out

>> No.49822973

>>49822679
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLc5mvOGgxc

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>>49822861
Morgan lady is fine, she is like the shapely buxom bar maid
While the Peace Dollar lady is like the High blood pure elven lineage of pristine delicate refined beauty and perfections of a classic Goddess of Liberty, strength, knowledge, and light

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>>49822876
>county of the sea
*Bounty*! I meant. Bounty!

>> No.49823011

>>49822955
Dubs checked, and nice haul.

>> No.49823038
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Saint-Gaudens Liberty >> shit >> walking Liberty

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>>49821790
>RIP rounds
Wouldn't advise using those for serious defense fren. Unless you're posting them for some meme reason. I'd recommend Gold Dots or HSTs for serious defense ammo.

>> No.49823086

>>49822709
Noice. Just looked. They only have 21 or so left. They have cheaper Brit’s too (45 or so) but they more expensive.

>> No.49823153

Any thoughts on the gold coin American eagle (92% gold, I think 5% silver, etc) vs a true Troy oz, like pamp suise or other pure gold bullions like the American buffalo

>> No.49823178

>>49823153
It is harder.

>> No.49823224

>>49823153
an AGE is a "true Troy oz". you just get some copper/silver as extra weight.

>> No.49823247

>>49823153
you still get a troy ounce of precious metal

>> No.49823276

>>49822602
>Id likely have to extend it two weeks so my paycheck lines up
Sounds like you're praying people will fill.

>> No.49823279
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160:3

Should I get more silver? Gold is so much shinier though

>> No.49823311

>>49823279
silver is objectively shinier than gold

>> No.49823348

>>49823311
not for long

>> No.49823470

But taking the account of the silver % increase vs gold % percent increase ; wouldn’t buying American gold eagles give you more bang for the buck as the American buffalos cost the same price. You get some silver in them with the same amount of gold?

>> No.49823484
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Silver chads rise up

>> No.49823549

>>49823484
Noice.

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Have a good weekend/Father's day/Meme holiday guys? I went to a local gun show today, one guy had pretty decent prices on US coinage. I didn't have a lot of money but I at least bought the dimes and the walking liberty for 21x fv, which is the cheapest I've found 90% in non-bulk amount so far. The brown Ike was $12 which I'm fairly sure is 40% silver. Even if it's not silver I'm still happy because the presentation is really great, the box looks and feels like wood grain even though it's cardboard. I've had a shadowbox frame sitting around, thinking about putting it in the frame to display. It has a very classy feel to it.

>> No.49823628

>>49823276
believe what you want, thats just my personal circumstance

>> No.49823657

>>49821627
Now your analysis at least has the appearance of being complete. I dispute the premise that the gold/silver ratio is the invariable law of nature upon which your analysis depends. But I honestly appreciate that you have made the attempt.

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>>49820873
>>49821790
>>49821999
>>49822130
nice goldbacks

>sells for double spot
that's not how that works, mate

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>>49822986
nice fucking chunkies

>> No.49823737

>>49823666
>that's not how that works, mate
Explain, Satan.

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>>49823695
>chunkies

>> No.49823919

>>49823737
premium = the amount you pay to buy that you lose when you sell
if you buy, say, an ounce of silver for $26 dollars and you sell it for $26 then the value is $26 and there is no premium. Just because a bunch of jews say it's $21.93 doesn't mean it is. and many in-the-know would say its much higher; which is why they don't sell

>>49823758
nice. turn it around

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>>49821790
Ah, a fellow KANG appreciater.

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>>49820932
Forget about the 2021's, because of their limited mintage any libertits over a year old will have fucking astronomical prices for it, the 22's are out at the end of next month and being new will be the least rapey on price.

https://www.emk.com/en-us/libertad-5-oz-ibmx202225?returnurl=%2fen-us%2fsearch%3fq%3d2022%2blibertad%23ibmx202225

>> No.49824105

>>49823919
>premium = the amount you pay to buy that you lose when you sell
Absolute and complete and total horseshit. You're talking about profit.

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>>49824098
>parents wanted to buy a tube of silver coins after Joe Biden was inaugurated
>I convinced them to buy the 2021 libertads because the premium wasn't very high at the time and I liked the angel titties

>> No.49824240

>>49822689
If the gold content is the same there is no issue.
I have several goldbacks with more on the way.

>> No.49824283

>>49820955
any reason why this is? Are they just not making them?

>> No.49824384

>>49824283
Low mintage

>> No.49824419
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>>49823919
>turn it around

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>>49824419

>> No.49824489
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49824489

i like gold

>> No.49824493

>>49821999
>My gold is better than your gold
at least gold coins are real gold, not an empty promise.

>> No.49824504

>>49822602
I don't know if you're allowed to extend a campaign once it starts

>> No.49824509
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49824509

>>49824283
Last recorded year was 2020 were only 300k were minted, with all the lock down shit who knows how many they made, Compare that to the other main governments who usually mint between 5-25 million of their silver coins.

>> No.49824583

>>49824105
explain how they are different then, mortal

>> No.49824587
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49824587

>>49824489
me too

>> No.49824617

>>49824493
You know goldbacks are printed on real gold, right?
I have a few since they look kinda cool but I don’t buy them regularly just because of the high premium

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49824683

>>49824587
do you also hate the antichrist, good sir?

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>>49824683
never met him

>> No.49824745

>>49824583
>buy silver round $22 + $5 premium
>wait until silver hits $30/oz
>sell
Did I lose money by selling?

>> No.49824776
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49824776

ahh yes another PMG, another attempt by me to get you retards to buy platinum while the dumbass reddit-cattle waste their money on silver.

For today's lesson, I think i'll spoonfeed you this article on Platinum mining in the Ural's(RU)
https://www.rbc.ru/newspaper/2019/09/20/5d81f61b9a7947ae33b4faab

>"In South Africa, the average cost of an ounce of platinum (1 ounce corresponds to about 31.1 grams) was $953 in 2017, in Russia it was about $300"

In South Africa they have to force 21st century niggers down rickety tunnels and mineshafts, while in Russia they just open-pit mine it. Now that Russian supplies are banned for the foreseeable future, the cost must go up. This is an element where 97% of the use is industry and it's 10-30x rarer than gold. About 30% of platinum was from Russia, and like I mentioned it was much cheaper.

>> No.49824778

>>49824419
I have one of these but it’s a different design, one of my favourite coins

>> No.49824816

>>49822025
Any dealer worth his salt is hedging both ways, and profits solely off the bid/ask spread. Trying to make money off the nominal price of such manipulated products is a good way to go bankrupt.

>> No.49824894

>>49824776
Is that pic brain tanning leather?

>> No.49824921

>>49824776
>and it's 10-30x rarer than gold
but that's wrong, there's roughly 25% more platinum than gold in earth's crust

>> No.49824922
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>>49824776
wtf is that picture anon

>> No.49824994

>>49824894
The first time I learned about brain-tanning I was blown away by just how resourceful our ancestors were. How the fuck do you even discover that?

>> No.49825060

>>49824922
Take tub, fill with brains, apply cow skin, end result is clothing.

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>>49824098
had good timing and got a single 2021 libertitty. looking back i should had just got a handful premium be damned

>>49824180
big brained move anon. i bought a tube but didnt mark what year they were and i dont wanna open it

>> No.49825082
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>>49824994
Its crazy right?

>> No.49825106
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49825106

Looking to purchase off an online dealer.

If you had a choice would you say echeck or a debit card is more secure? I don't have a credit card.

The echeck price is cheaper, obviously, and will take longer. But I've never paid with echeck before and I just have to provide my routing and account number.

Usually I'll use my debit card for online purchases but because of the discount I'm considering echeck.

Thoughts?... Is there any security concerns with using an echeck?

>> No.49825137

>>49825060
ok then, I was not aware that was a thing but thank you for enlightening me

>> No.49825236

>>49825137
If memory serves, each animal has just enough brain-matter to tan its own hide. I think certain megafauna like buffalo and elephants need more than just their own brains, but the rule is applicable for nearly all mammals.

>> No.49825395

>>49823695
hey chunkiesposter, haven't seen you in a long time

>> No.49825437

>>49824583
A premium is a surcharge over the price of a product or service in order to encourage favorable perceptions among buyers, or to increase a seller's profit.
Profit (or loss) a financial gain (or loss), especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something.
So a retailer buys at spot or just above from a wholesaler, and decides how much to mark up a price to increase his profit. A profit requires two transactions. A premium may exist, but if no-one buys it, there is no resultant profit.

>> No.49825500

>>49824493
Do you have proof that they are in fact not real gold or are you just talking out your ass?

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49825521

>>49824994
It was likely serendipitous. Cave man throws waste into a hole, comes back some time later to discover a tanned hide. Humans are smart, but deep time and random chance tends to make us look like geniuses.

>> No.49825573

>>49823067
No I bought them when they came out mostly just bought them to have them. I have hydra-shocks or fmj when I carry, mostly fmj.
>>49823947
Hello friend, seen you before, nice setup/shot

>> No.49825637

>>49825106
I use PayPal only for all web transactions, the way it works is very secure and the only one who ever sees your bank info is PayPal. The only info a "pay with PayPal" site gets is a customer ID that is unique to your user for that specific site, a token created during the OAUTH2 process when you sign into PayPal. I know PayPal is pozzed, but I'm not cool with random payment processors storing my info, at least this way only 1 company has my shit and they have top tier security. The extra $ is worth it to me, but I'm also paranoid because I do this for a living.
> t. Software engineer who runs his own cloud and code security audit company who's seen some pretty alarming shit out there

>> No.49825638

>>49822354
>37.5grams
Why such and odd weight?

>> No.49825678

>>49824745
>>49825437
I understand what profits are, but you seem to think that they are distinct when referring to individual transactions, which they are not. they say premium implies the cost of production yet its not as if the silver trading at spot did not cost money to produce.
>$22 + $5 premium
that doesn't mean anything; the $22 paper spot "price" doesn't mean shit and we all know it. Do you really think silver is worth only $22 per ounce? And if you make a profit on selling then why should you care what the "premium" is?
sure you can argue that compared to a generic round, a numismatic costs more and can argue that that increase in price is due to the numismatic quality, but that doesn't make it a "premium." that piece is just simply worth more in value than a generic. it doesn't need to be compared to the cheapest possible value one can acquire silver.
for example, one of the cheapest 1ozt rounds right now are sunshines for $25.62. the (((almighty))) spot "price" is "$"21.93. so you would say the coin costs ~$22 + $3.6 premium.
yet it is the cheapest 1ozt round you can get. there is no cheaper alternative. so why have this extra $3.6 tacked on their
its as if I owed you 10 dollars and you me 5. we could say I owe you $1,000,010 and you me $1,000,005. why would we not just say that only I owe you 5 dollars and you owe me 0. its completely arbitrary to pick the base and values on top of that. at least the latter makes the most sense from a practical standpoint.
you could argue that the value is based off the cheapest possible value as acquired in silver, probably some monster box or 1000oz comex bars, yet that's completely irrelevant since that is not the thing you are buying.

1/2

>> No.49825692

>>49825638
Tell me one thing produced in Mexico, or whatever beaner country that is, that is precise.

>> No.49825795

>>49825692
Cocaine

>> No.49825797

>>49825678
>so why have this extra $3.6 tacked on their
Because Sunshine wants to make a profit as a business, retard.
Your huge text wall doesn't answer my question though.
You say premiums are money that you spend that you lose when you sell, and yet you can't refute the simple truth that if you hold until resale is higher than what you paid you don't just magically lose $3 to $5.

>> No.49825810

Honesty I like the frensmark. Looks good without a hat. Better designed than Bog, Apu, and all the anime shit coins.

>> No.49825884

>>49824745
>>49825437
>>49825678
2/2

that's as if you go to the store to buy a pound of rice for $3. but you see a 2 pound bag for $5
you don't say "oh the 1 pound bag costs $2.50 + $0.50 premium"
you just understand that buying in bulk is a better deal; it's almost as if you feel the need to have it spelled out for retards to understand how costs work.
but in any case it is still arbitrary to pretend like there is some ultimate, (((true))) spot "price"
let's say that spot really does refer to the going rate of comex bars and that somehow that is overtly relevant to the price of fractional silver that isn't even being made from these bars. I would argue then that those are not even the "lowest price available" considering how cheap sterling can be to acquire (oftentimes at or even well below spot)
then you might say that that isn't really fair since often those people selling sterling at these prices are just unaware or uncaring for the true value of the silver, and that buyers are taking advantage of the low price because the true value is much higher
and to that I would say the same thing as to the spot "price" and virtually all silver products on the market. a coin for $25.62 is a steal compared to the actual value of silver. and same with goldbacks whose fractional ability is something currently included in the value of itself. if you want to use fractional silver instead that is an argument (and I support both), but if you want to use fractional gold and not goldbacks I say to thee good luck not loosing those flakes in the wind

>>49825797
>if you hold until resale is higher than what you paid you don't just magically lose $3 to $5
I completely agree..? the other point I've implied (though maybe I should have been explicit so you'd be able to understand) is indeed that no matter what price you purchase something at, no money has been lost or gained until you sell it

>> No.49825910
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>>49825810
>1PBTI
get the fuck out of here sperganon.
reported for ban evasion

>>49825395
hello. I've been around

>> No.49825973

>>49825637
Thanks for the reply. I know exactly what you mean about random payment processors...I avoided "Plaid" (Used by Apmex and JM Bullion) for that reason, you have to actually give them your bank account login info. Fuck that.

I know debit or echeck probably isn't the most secure because in both cases the money is coming directly out of my account.

I should really get a credit card set up, or use Paypal as you suggested. I want to do things in the most secure way possible.

That or make a separate bank account I use for PM purchases so I can take advantage of the "cash" discount.

>> No.49826012

>>49825910
Not him. Maybe someone can share the version with the hat to see if it’s better. Can’t imagine it’s much different.

>> No.49826065

>>49824994
Yes. The same goes for pemmican. A brilliant invention. And figuring out that you need a monoamine oxidase inhibitor from one plant to make dmt in another plant orally active. And on and on. This is why the idea that only aliens could have done x or y is really just ignorance of how fucking smart humans really are. But this is pretty far off topic.

>> No.49826083

>>49825692
Cartels

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>>49825795

>> No.49826129

>>49825810
we all know it's you, dude
should have included a hat

>> No.49826180
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>>49824617
Let's end this "Goldbacks" debate once and for all.
Buying them for the shiny art. Based af.
Buying them as a gold investment. Cringe . If you want to invest in gold, just buy gold.

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49826190

>>49826012
most got deleted and I don't feel like going through the archives.
it obviously didn't get to go through any finalizations

>> No.49826205

>>49825810
Dude just give up. You dumb AF

>> No.49826230

>>49826190
outstanding coin
a shame it will never exist in the physical realm

>> No.49826240
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>>49826190
I could take it or leave it. If I was forced to choose, I think I would go without.

>> No.49826250

>>49825810
You should have left the hat dude.

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>>49826230
>>49826240
well this was the first draft
here somebody mocked up the bust a bit

>> No.49826300

>>49825810
should have left the hat. i reported yiur thread on /pol/ btw

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>> No.49826302

>>49826230
Did the indiegogo officially fail?

>> No.49826326

>>49826302
there is no indiegogo for this coin

>> No.49826352

>>49826303
i see you bought some fake 2022 coins now
those must have cost extra huh

>> No.49826368
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49826368

Can a more savvy anon than myself decode these hieroglyphs? Boughted uh shiny trinket not even thinking it was silbur. Did I score a cheapie or something plebian as expected for the price?

>> No.49826369
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49826369

>>49825678
Holy crap...
This started with, goldbacks cost nearly twice spot. It's that simple. Whether you want to create your own vocabulary, I don't care - it's your life to struggle.

>> No.49826382

>>49826352
stop responding to him, he only does this for (you)s
we all know it's fake, he knows it's fake everyone knows it's fake

>> No.49826418

>>49826180
I don't think anyone here has said to only stack goldbacks. The only thing happening is retards sperging the fuck out whenever they see them. I buy them cause I like them but like most all if not all others here aren't stacking them as pure weight.

>> No.49826426

>>49826303
I hear the chink 2022 fake britannias don't show the padlock when you adjust them.
Perhaps you can show us the padlock on yours?

>> No.49826436

>>49826368
English sterling fren.

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49826437

>>49826382
>stop responding to him, I'm poor and jelly.
>we all know I'm poor and jelly, he knows I'm poor and jelly everyone knows I'm poor and jelly

>> No.49826440

>>49826368
doesn't E usually mean electroplated?
not sure though

>> No.49826448

>>49826369
are you autistic? what does it matter than they cost double some arbitrary number you ascribe to? you can't buy any gold at that price, let alone an ultra-fractional currency. noone but you is thinking about melting them back down and reselling at a lower price.

>> No.49826450

>>49826437
see >>49826426

>> No.49826451
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49826451

>>49825064
>premium be damned

I have this arriving on tuesday, €220 it cost, if you dont care about premiums make sure its a coin worth paying it.

>> No.49826479

Looking to buy some fractional gold, anyone care to share your favs without crazy premiums? I have a lot of sovereigns and some pre 33s

>> No.49826490

>>49826368
>>49826440
Pretty sure EI is the makers mark, the lion means .925 sterling, the u indicates what year it was made, not sure about the flower though.

>> No.49826501

I like goldbacks. I think they're pretty. I would like a few of the better looking ones in my money collection.
That said they exist to solve a problem already solved by silver; have a metallic money available in a practical form for small transactions. Granted, each state in which they exist gold is monetized so to that end they serve that niche well. It would still be preferable for us lowly plebs just to put silver back in our purses and pockets.

>> No.49826516

No hatters seething like all the socialist scumbags since forever
>don't like the hat
Make your own coin faggots. Nobody owes you a fucking thing commie

>> No.49826519

>>49826426
>>49826450
See how quickly he responds and tries to bait harder? Stop giving him (you)s
He's already fucked up before by forgetting to cover the fake serial numbers maybe someone else saved the image

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49826523

>>49826426
>Go and spend ages retrieving your well-hidden box of gold at 10.40pm and take a specific photo for me so I can give you another even sillier quest as soon as you post it

>> No.49826532

>>49826326
Really? I thought I saw a screenshot of it a few threads back, was only half funded at the time, maybe I dimension shifted!?

>> No.49826567

>>49826532
there is a distinct difference between the coin you saw on indiegogo and this one
look closer, fren

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>>49821018
it doesn't even make any sense, wtf shillbro

>> No.49826575

>>49826523
well, you've taken many photos of your coins before, I can't be arsed to go through the archives, perhaps you could find an image on your hard drive with your 2022 brit showing a padlock instead of a trident?

>> No.49826596

>>49826567
Oh didn’t realize you’re were a hat anon

>> No.49826639

>>49826451
those are sexy as all hell. i should just get the 5 and a display stand

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49826641

I'm convinced that any anon who talks of premiums is either a newfag or retarded
pic related

>> No.49826650

>>49826448
Are you so unobservant? Do you not see the comparison prices for the assayed gold bars of similar mass in that table?
Goldbacks are expensive. It can't get any simpler. Whether you are able to sell with the same premium is a crap shoot. They do fill a unique niche - the very low-mass amounts (goldback 10s and lower), though you can even buy assayed grains and 5 grains that I haven't priced.

>> No.49826664

Bigger pic of actual git. Shit like this is worth more new in box, right?

>>49826368
A matched item with it has the same marks, but even smaller, and a final part attached has a lion mark so smol I needed a loop to know it wasnt just a ding.

>>49826436
Thanks for the vote! I'm excited that there weren't obvious problems I missed with my own first glance. Assuming real, however, I was hoping for the maker, year, and location which are encoded by how these do. Love the shit out of english stuff, but as a borgor the denominations and marking are rather obscure.

>>49826440
>>49826490
EP will mean electroplate, this was the marking I forgot the last time I bought a pleb trinket for display, but EI should be the maker mark (with the pinched margins being distinct possibly). My understanding is the lion is sterling, BUT some shitty borgot companies or whatever used a poor copy of said lion to fake the quality to a casual eye. Something about the lion facing the wrong way and looking like shit but the fact I cant remember is why I ask.

>> No.49826669

>>49825810
Everyone wave to sperganon.

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>>49826523
also why don't any of your 2022 brits have the horizontal lines on the shield (a security feature)?

>> No.49826691
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49826691

>>49826664
because am retarded

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>>49826368
>Did I score a cheapie

Hell yeah great job man, sterling silver made in Sheffield (rose hallmark) in 1994. What does it weigh and what did it cost you?

>> No.49826772

>>49826681
probably just the lighting I guess.
I believe you anyway, although you should get a better camera or invest in some lighting.

>> No.49826774

>>49826418
>The only thing happening is retards sperging the fuck out whenever they see them.
Your first post in the thread said the only argument against goldbacks was "my dad can beat up your dad," which is objectively false. Seems like most people's argument with it is that it's stupidly overpriced fractional gold.

>> No.49826781
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49826781

>>49820845
>Fictional characters who are most definitely stackers

>> No.49826799
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>>49826781

>> No.49826864

>>49826738
Sadly, >>49826691 is bonded to the wood and glass. Thank you kindly for decoding Sheffield and 1994! As to my gains it is new in box and seems utterly unused so while I won't scrap it to find its intrinsic worth at a whopping $10 it quite easily has more than a spoon's worth of silver. Actually, I've never scrapped down a weighted or mounted item so I'd value your guess. My instincts tell me I have no less than a half ounce sterling and as much as an ounce and a half.

>> No.49826875
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49826875

He is the only stacker, we're just borrowing small parts of his stack.

>> No.49826876

>>49826691
Don’t melt, get quill, become forever enlightened in the art of writing, shun ball points forever.

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>>49826781

>> No.49826893
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49826893

Hope everyone had a good weekend!
Happy Father's Day!

Bogs will begin shipping tomorrow with all non-AP orders shipped by the end of the week

Current Prospector #'s
Gilded - 226
Plain - 213

>> No.49826932

>>49826774
So then it falls back in to why do you care so much what others do with their money? Most people's arguments are them sperging out about premium. The my dad argument mostly applies to sov bitch maybe a few others.

>> No.49826947

>>49826774
>which is objectively false
Your dad is a little bitch and you are too.

>> No.49826979

>>49826893
is that a rasperry pi zero 2?

>> No.49826983

>>49826781
Sam and dean winchester probably had decent stacks of silver. Too bad the show is trash.
Also Dwight from the office probably stacks reichsmarks, and the old crazy guy probably has a schizo stack of 90% coins
>>49826799
You going to post smaug next?

>> No.49827007

>>49826979
no but I use a Leonardo in my flight sim switchbox

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>>49826781

>> No.49827023

>>49826983
>You going to post smaug next?
was going to do goldfinger but I thought it too obvious

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>>49827007
>flight sim switchbox
we gaan

>> No.49827073

>>49824504
they let you do it once as long as its shorter than the max of 60 days

>> No.49827078

>>49827019
I miss that Lil niqua like you wouldn't believe

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>>49827064
nice if they let you fly through bridges now. check out the Neofly mod if you haven't before, it gives you a campaign with progression and a hardcore mode that kills your pilot if you crash

>> No.49827109

>>49826932
>So then it falls back in to why do you care so much what others do with their money?
What makes you think I do? Is it because I've said I'll buy goldbacks if they release a FL addition? Is it because the only post I've made in this thread related to goldbacks is simply saying your post was objectively a lie? Neither of those sounds like I really care what you do with your money, but you're welcome to interpret things however you want I s'pose.

>> No.49827137

>>49826501
Maybe a Silverback or Copperback should be developed?

>> No.49827167
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>>49827100
You can do some bridges but not others. It's very hit or miss. There's a river I like to try to fly the whole length of below the treetops and you can go under three of the bridges.

>> No.49827175

>>49826303
what do people with this kind of stack do for a living. I've got a bigger stack than 99 percent of people here but i am still a LONG way away from 10 kilobars.

>> No.49827214

>>49827175
That's brassfag. He claims he took out a 6 figure loan, dumped it all into crypto, and made back something around 5x in profit. He says he spends 50,000 a week on gold now.

>> No.49827216

>>49826639
If your putting anything on a stand, it has to be at least a proof or reverse proof like pic related, the standard libertits have a dull texture to them.

>> No.49827217

>>49827175
They sit on 4chan all day posting pictures of fake gold bars so they can see a bunch of replies to their posts, which briefly makes them feel like they're popular.

>> No.49827240

>>49826129
>>49826205
>>49826250
>>49826300
>>49826669
that literally not me you retards

>> No.49827242

>>49827214
not impossible since a lot of people did get rich on crypto.

>> No.49827250

>>49827175
Post stack

>> No.49827251

>>49827175
Don’t worry, so is the shitposter who’s posting brass fakes

>> No.49827278

>>49827216
>it has to be at least a proof or reverse proof like pic related,
no doubt. their bu pieces though have that nice creamy tone

>> No.49827285

>>49827137
>Silverback
Based harambe poster

>> No.49827287

>>49825106

Depending on who you are buying from, look into actual checks or wiring.

Checks = Slow but checks are cheap
Wiring = Fast but cost like $25 each

Wiring makes sense on big $1000+ orders where $25 is still cheaper than the Paypal tax.

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>>49826876

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>>49827240
Based frenmark anon.
Hatfags get the rope!
Ordering my frenmark asap.

>> No.49827316

>>49827240
You're the guy who said you have "dozens of vpns." Every post praising no-hat is you until definitively proven otherwise.

>> No.49827332

>>49827287
Many places also take ACH, which is both fast and free.

>> No.49827386

>want to advise friends to stack
>don't want them to know that I stack

>> No.49827401

>>49827316
kys, hatloving niggerfaggots.
We know it's you von fagging with 1pbti, hatfag!

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>>49827386
hit with the memes

>> No.49827477

>>49827316
Just as there are pro hat autists there are no hat autists, I have to spin up a windows vm just to use the residential vpn as it doesnt work on linux and since my ban is over Ive no reason to do that. I also dont shill at all in pmg specifically to avoid the muh hat vs no hat debate from shitting the thread up but since its already done Ill reply
>>49827386
tell them you really wish you had money to start stacking

>> No.49827527

>>49827477
>Ill reply
Twice.

>> No.49827594

>>49825910
>whining about rule breaking while breaking the rules
pottery
>>49827527
I didnt mean just one post I meant in general, Ill reply to whatever shitposts are there now that shitposts have been shitposted

>> No.49827636

>>49825973
Yea Plaid is supposed to be secure but I have my doubts, I've seen it error out too many times and seen alot of bad implementations for it. Also, it only seems to work well with (((big banks))).
> That or make a separate bank account I use for PM purchases so I can take advantage of the "cash" discount
This is the way to go if you don't want to use PayPal/want the discount, and would allow you to control how much $ you have at risk. I hate to shill for the (((big banks))) but I suggest you use one for this purpose so that if there are any Plaid or other ACH processors, it will definitely work. You can sign up and open an account for most 100% online.

>> No.49827701

>>49825106
>>49827636
If you want absolutely no connection from big banks to your pm stack, I believe there is a website that sells pms for monero, /xmr/ might know about it.

>> No.49827726

>>49826864
>I've never scrapped down a weighted or mounted item so I'd value your guess.

I've never scrapped something like that and don't know the dimensions but figure the pen rests are solid and contribute some decent weight, probably at least an ounce of sterling total I'd guess. I definitely would've picked it up and likewise wouldn't scrap it, probably has some decent resale value. Good find keep it up bro!

>> No.49827889

>>49826596
I understood him; you are just retarded. sorry anon :(

>>49826650
fixed your dumb spreadsheet. still avoids answering why you compare any of these to an arbitrary value
when you say expensive, what are you comparing it to? other similar products? no.

>>49827240
>>49827594
go kill yourself faggot

>> No.49827955

>>49827701
Good to know, thanks fren. I'll have to visit the /xmr/ schizos and report back with my findings

>> No.49827957

>>49820845

Just a reminder there is infinite amount of gold silver titanium... in the universe but there is only 21 million bitcoins

>> No.49827987

>>49827293
An interesting dipper. I like fountain pens myself. And since many of them have gold tips, they qualify as PMs.

>> No.49828024

>>49827957
dont care
didnt ask
>buttcoin

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>>49827889
Jesus Christ the salt on this guy.
Spot isn't an arbitrary amount. it is the foundation on which all of our purchases are based. Just because you foresee a future in which the imaginary fiat demon has been slain and 1 gold is worth 1 gold doesn't mean it has any application to current reality.

>> No.49828113

>>49827889
You know, I never thought about suicide before but now that a random faggot on the internet told me too, Ill really take that into consideration. Thanks anon you really expanded my horizons with your informative post
>>49827955
Also I know for sure there is one that sells ammo

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>>49827957
>but there is only 21 million bitcoins
>Hits keyboard button

Now theres 42 million.

>> No.49828161

>>49828080
spot is entirely arbitrary. noone is trading physical metals at their paper "price." do you truly think the value of silver is only 22 of those bills that have quadrupled in supply over the last few years?

>>49828113
just doing my job. glad I could make a difference

>>49827957
bitcoin isn't a measurement though. to say there are a discrete number of anything that isn't discrete in and of itself does not make sense

>> No.49828178

>No /cmmg/
Anyways, maybe you guys can answer my question since /smg/ is shite
Does the gold/silver ratio matter outside of those metals?

>> No.49828201

>>49827955
>>49828113
To follow up on this, the gentleman in /xmr/ said:
> https://monerica.com/
> go to the "Precious Metals" sections. any links with a check mark have been verified by fellow anons

>> No.49828210

>>49827726
Thanks! I'd bust out the ruler but thickness of the metal can't be known and matters most so I'll just let the ounce guess stand I think. Overall I don't appreciate the new in box crap so while I do want a silver pen rest I would love to flip this for something solid and nice and just keep the change. Any guess on how high an ask would still get a "yeah, sounds like a deal"?

>>49827987
Thanks! Also appreciating the PMs of a good pen, especially spring gold! And so, you as a pen person may be somewhat impressed by the fact my spare nib box has 4 grams of vintage 14k with some as collectable as the key dates people drool over. Care to post some pens? All the better if they are pens too nice to post lol

>> No.49828277

>>49827477
i'll forgive u if you make the coins have edge lettering

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i just want my bogs

>> No.49828290

I hate to admit it bros, but I've come to appreciate the Canuck Maples more than any other coin.

>> No.49828292

>>49828178
Strength of a fiat currency is measured by how much gold it buys. To make petrodollar seem like it isn't imploding the price of gold needs to be suppressed so inflation isn't obvious. Gold and silver are similarly linked in relative value but silver's market cap is easier to control.

As the GSR gets worse you should be mindful of why and what the price smashing of silver says about the strength of the dollar behind the scenes. As an inflation red flag you should be concerned about every other market when things are as bad as they are. Metal is also a safeguard and so people directly play the implications but if you are seeking to predict derivitive markets the GSR is very much part of the big picture.

>> No.49828295

>>49828178
>Does the gold/silver ratio matter outside of those metals?

Some think so:
https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/14/20/6775/pdf?version=1634521579

>> No.49828304

>>49828161
yeah right now it is because the bills aren't being used. Personal savings is at an all-time low.

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>>49828290

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>>49828279
Yeah I got 2 of em. Where tf are they
Bog is one of my favorite memes

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>>49828290
I find them very elegant.

>> No.49828346

>>49828277
I tried my best anon, cant find a mint that would even do it. I really really wanted it. Only thing I could get is edge serial stamping but serial on the front is just better in most cases I think
>>49828312
It would look great if there wasnt that stupid ass logo under the leaf

>> No.49828355

>>49828323
the grease stains really add to the grotesqueness of your OC anon

>> No.49828365

>>49828312
>>49828323
>>49828328
Oh yes, something else I've also wondered about these threads is: why? What is the purpose of stacking coins which carry and additional design/numismatic cost to them, instead of just loading up on silver ingots or something? On paper, it just seems like an inefficient use of capital

>> No.49828376

>>49824921
Ur a sperg, keep buying the reddit-mineral. Google what I said next time, platinum is closer to 30x rarer than gold. M-muh crust rarity is about equal and it's way harder to mine. Try to find a video inside the South African mines, I couldn't.

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posting to claim ID
hoping for +GOLD!

>> No.49828386

red red red redred

>> No.49828388

>>49828178
sorry i am busy today, i ll post a new /CMMG/ this evening. Its a sunday either way, not a lot going on right now.

>> No.49828394

>>49827175
>what do people with this kind of stack do for a living. I've got a bigger stack than 99 percent of people here but i am still a LONG way away from 10 kilobars.


I made 8 figures during the last crypto bullrun, which really wasn't particularly hard if you had a bit of experience, and some starting capital. I then put a small few % into gold recently, just for a bit of fun.

Also, post your stack.

>>49827214
>He claims he took out a 6 figure loan, dumped it all into crypto, and made back something around 5x in profit.

You've not quite got the numbers right there, anon. A 5x would have been a pretty poor show; my overall results are several hundred x since late 2018. There are countless examples of coins that pulled those numbers themselves in the last few years; anyone into crypto would find it quite plausible. PMG is somewhat unused to large (or any) profits so it seems unbelievably impressive, but it's not entirely unusual in the crypto world. You're also a lot more likely to go broke if you don't know what you're doing, of course, but the gains are out there and /biz is unironically full of millionaires.

>> No.49828405

>>49828365
Taxes, bro. Depending on where you are and what coin you are moving they are exempt from capital gains tax.

>> No.49828460

>>49828388
That's okay panman, the thread tends to die off due to activity, especially when crypto takes a shit. If there's something worth discussing, it'll pop up.

>>49828405
So basically
>Buy coin now, at a high cost
>Value doubles after 10 years or whatever
>It either falls under a collectable (old+rare) or has intrinsic value from the metal
>Tax advantaged, so when you sell there's less burden

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>>49828365
1. Because I've been an autistic coin collector since age 13
2. Because if I ever do wanna sell my stack, the right buyer would pay more for a Chris chan coin than a krug. The only downside is you've gotta find the guy who wants the Chris Chan coin.
>>49828355
>grease
Or issss itttt ;)

>> No.49828481

>>49828312
>>49828328

I hated them until I actually had one in hand. It's even replaced the Britannia as my favorite modern coin. Only way it could be GOAT is if had young Lizzy2 instead of slightly drunk grandma Lizzy2

>> No.49828513

>>49828365
>What is the purpose of stacking coins which carry and additional design/numismatic cost to them
The demand drives a premium and it's easy profit?

>> No.49828529

>>49828463
>Chris has been in custody for 322 days.
time flies. I wonder how much his lego stack would be worth if it were in decent condition.

>> No.49828541

>>49828513
I dunno maybe I have a different investing style, I'm happy to accumulate and never sell (I have some sealed MTG boxes so I get it), but I've been buying stocks that either pay a dividend, and/or are optionable so I can farm returns on it and never really sell it

>> No.49828571

>>49828541
I live paycheck to paycheck, so it's not an option for me. I'm happy paying a little premium, selling a few months later for profit, and getting a little extra free silver for my stack. I paid $45 for my Aputannia and sold it for $300.

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>>49828460
yea at the moment crypto is having a fit and the thread would be killed pretty quick, i ll put one up on monday though.

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>>49826650
>>49827889
forgot to attach

>> No.49829065

>>49826180
The dragon is based though (and correct)
;^)

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>about to complain about slow delivery
>refresh tracking

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New Jesus coin coming from Scottsdale soon

>> No.49829113

>>49821999
>Buying marked up tree pulp & fancy ink instead of the actual valuable gold from a fine metal refinery/mint...
I doubt buying goldbacks is ever going to be a worthwhile long-term investment atm.
>If your stacking precious metal you wanna stack precious metal not a FED issued IOU of a currency that isn't on gold standard.
Especially when you never see/know what the real gold reserve amount is or where you can cash in your gold voucher.

You should realize gold backs are nothing but a scam nowadays, Since the USD isn't on a gold or silver standard & 95%+ of banks don't even hold gold & silver in their vaults anymore.
If there was a gold standard then it would be viable due to all banks needing to hold some stores of gold in that odd case an individual wanted to swap cash for gold/a goldback or vise versa at any time.

>Currently, You won't ever be able to trade goldbacks in for actual gold & if the economy crashes you'll likely be laughed at then told to go fuck yourself.
>Unless your at a gold trader shop where the dealer is a absolute utter retarded both investment & trade wise or completely doesn't know wtf they are doing they won't actively/willingly swap goldbacks for actual gold or even USD.
1) It's not considered a valid form of currency.
2) No gold standard insuring the investment
3) Can't be redeemed through the fed reserve.
3) The gold backs are often sold/issued by a mint, as placeholder for actual gold they haven't even mined/refined
4) A buyer they'd essentially be giving you gold for a item with no intrinsic value/use
5) the public don't trade goldbacks for goods
6) the only people remotely interested are investor/stackers anyway

I admit they are far better investments than shitcoins & whatnot if you long game for a gold standard reinstatement but desu I'm betting your better off stacking gold foil & scrapping gold from electronics using chemistry equipment.
Your far better off just keeping your USD or buying fine jewelry IMO.

>> No.49829182

>>49823758
Get off the board nigger

>> No.49829185

>>49829113
>Buying marked up tree pulp & fancy ink instead of the actual valuable gold from a fine metal refinery/mint
I was under the impression that goldbacks contain real actual gold foil sealed inside a plastic sheath like a trading card.
They say they contain actual gold, eg 1/1000th of an ounce for the $1 goldback and high fractionals for higher denominations.
Unless I am seriously misled your entire post is nonsense.

>> No.49829373

>>49829185
its not a protective sheath, its laminated and non divisible. Similar to how you could use gold plated items as currency if you could have any clue about the actual gold content.

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>>49829113
>marked up tree pulp & fancy ink instead of the actual valuable gold from a fine metal refinery/mint
you taking stupid pills or something? It's literally gold. Expensive gold but still gold. The idea being if currency collapses you won't have to hack off chunks of your gold coins just to buy a loaf of bread.

>> No.49829424

>>49829373
>its laminated and non divisible
...like a trading card, yes, that is what I said.
>if you could have any clue about the actual gold content.
Again, yes, that is why they have the gold content written on them.

Am I having a stroke or something?

>> No.49829502

Havent posted in a while.
Is anyone still charting the sell values of aputainia and wagmi coins?

>> No.49829531

>>49829502
yeah check pastebin: PFMse8fe

>> No.49829544

>>49829378
Not all goldbacks have actual gold in them/are made out of actual gold.
If it is made out of gold foil it is not likely 24k gold but actually 14k gold foil which is less refined & impure.

You could easily just buy gold inlay & 14k gold foil from a craft store without the overpriced mark up if that's the case.

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>>49829113
>>49829185
>>49829544
goldbacks are 24k. since a lot of you shills don't even seem to know what goldbacks are , here's the pasta for newfags

>value
Average retail price
(though the old formula still works pretty well if you add another $0.60)
Old formula: $1.1 + (spot / 1000) * 1.155

>general info
https://goldback.com/
https://youtu.be/O5zyqKuqJ3o

>states
Utah
Nevada
New Hampshire
*Wyoming
*South Dakota

>durability
https://youtu.be/LT-NW8vfb3M
https://youtu.be/JJ31IjtXtik

>examples of use
https://youtu.be/nQrbaSWdiHs
https://youtu.be/HCsJxk3mV70

>answers to retarded questions
Can it be melted down? https://youtu.be/8rhO7TRp6z8 (2:00)

>available
defythegrid.com - cheapest prices for low denoms
bullionexchanges.com
jmbullion.com
goldback.com/how-to-get-goldbacks

>> No.49829689

>>49829544
>Not all goldbacks have actual gold in them/are made out of actual gold.
You seem seriously misinformed about this.
Unless they are just straight up lying about everything they do, which seems like it would be illegal considering they sell these things to the public.

>> No.49829695

>>49829578
Has anyone here had the delamination issue that they talk about on the faq for the goldback website?

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>>49828365
>What is the purpose of stacking coins which carry and additional design/numismatic cost to them
Well... I don't stack anything now. .I used to stack generic bars. Now I buy one or two of everything that looks interesting to me. Numis coins that aren't being currently minted have to carry a real interest for me to buy them. While they're still being minted is when they cost the least. When they stop and dealers run out of stock, the prices jump, and continue to rise at a rate faster than the metal alone.

>> No.49829721

>>49828376
>google it
>"Platinum is 30 times more rare than gold"
>source: platinumjewellery.com
you are a black fucking nigger do you know that

>> No.49829744

>>49829544
>Not all goldbacks have actual gold in them/are made out of actual gold.
don't buy those then I guess. I have never seen nor heard of such a thing.
>If it is made out of gold foil it is not likely 24k gold but actually 14k gold foil which is less refined & impure.
The actual gold content is printed right on it. Nobody cares about what other materials might be in there.
>You could easily just buy gold inlay & 14k gold foil from a craft store without the overpriced mark up if that's the case.
Would you accept my art project as payment for bread or smokes? The entire point is they're hard to counterfeit and easy to identify. Yes, it's more expensive than coins but coins don't come in denominations that are useful for everyday commerce.
>>49829373
>non divisible
Actually if it came to it you could probably make change by cutting them in half, quarter, etc. Since it is a solid sheet you could measure to verify the dimensions.

>> No.49829850

>>49829373
>non divisible
It's 1/1000th of an ounce, do you really need to divide it more?

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>>49829578
The kikes will fight against any currency they can't control Anon. I love the research though.

>> No.49829945

>>49824778
I like this one, Anubis, but the others, not so much. I'll probably get them anyway to complete the set. They are chonky as fuck and this is by far my new favorite fondle piece.

>> No.49829981

>>49823947
Based.
>>49829182
Shut up kike.

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>>49829908
agreed, thank you

>>49829695
the very corner of my NH 50 I think. mine also has a serial misprint

>> No.49830097

>>49824776
loaded up on platinum already

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>>49829985
>mfw trying to figure out how her legs work

>> No.49830221

>>49828304
>Personal savings is at an all-time low
Not mine. I've never been so compelled to save "money".

>> No.49830275

>>49829689
>Oh no, I probably definitely am.
I fully understand the backlash you are throwing & am acting partially as devil's advocate in regard to general uneducated public views, knowledge, & perception regarding them.
But everyone can admit, it would be quite possible & easy for a modern company to do what I proposed for extra profit.

Most average individuals have never even heard of or seen goldbacks in person or view them as a relic of the old western past that we have left behind with the times.
To them this is kind thing would be sus considering everyone seems to know we are off a gold standard.
I'd also be hard for them to confirm that the items worth what the mint claims due to the values being in increments of 1/1000th of an oz of gold.
The average home scale probably isn't scientifically accurate enough to properly measure that by weight alone.
And the average person does not generally know the weight of an ounce pure gold either.
this could greatly compromise it's validity/tradability in their eyes & its general usability that stackers claim it would have.
Its far easier to look at a minted breaker bar/mint round coin & know the value is exactly worth what you claim it to be.

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Finally set this up on the nicer granite, and the exposure's a bit better too. Don't like the strong shadow though. Needs work.

>> No.49830304

>>49829089
Good looking coin. If they mint them in silver, which they probably will, I'll get a tube and sell them on Ebay to the Christfags for a decent profit.

>> No.49830334

>>49829985
Were you going to try to get a warranty replacement from them? Just trying to see if anyone has done that.
>>49830221
Same. I spent the first decade of my adult life listening to normie advice about debt, got a wake up call and finally dug myself out at the end of last year. Now I'm trying to save as much as I possibly can. It's so freeing being rid of that ball and chain, I'm never ever going into debt for anything ever again.

>> No.49830358

>>49830275
>I fully understand the backlash you are throwing & am acting partially as devil's advocate in regard to general uneducated public views, knowledge, & perception regarding them.
>i was being retarded on purpose
I'm out, have a good evening.

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>>49830286
One of the only pics I've saved here. Let's compare.

>> No.49830533

>>49830286
Looks good but it is over-exposed.

>> No.49830540

New Thread Up

>>49830517
>>49830517
>>49830517

>> No.49830590

to me goldbacks are like collecting Pokémon, gotta catch em all desu
so until the goldbacks get discontinued or their premiums go above a certain threshold, I'll keep purchasing them one by one along with new state releases
if you wanna try and change my mind your are free to

>> No.49830619

>>49830168
I think her left leg she is descending from being on/walking over the log

>>49830334
no primarily because mine being 2020 and misprinted serial I think its worth more than whatever replacement they might give me. plus that seems like a hassle

>> No.49830667

>>49830396
:)
>>49830533
>over-exposed.
Interesting. It certainly has more contrast. I thought the first one looked dingy. It's still set up, I'll shoot again...

>> No.49830757

>>49826774
It is stupidly overpriced fractional gold. Beautiful though. Art value is worth it.

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>>49830396
>>49830533
Thanks - I think I'm done now.

>> No.49831618

>>49829850
>buys half pack of eggs
>lowest denomination note
Who keeps the change?

>> No.49831935

>>49828210
Key dates aren’t really my thing. Its like guts who collect gilet safety razors and date them. People go crazy over that stuff. Just like they do with stupid mistakes on pennies.

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>>49831935
Although I do like the older stuff. Since the 1950s things have gotten progressively shitterly constructed due to plastics replacing metal and wood. Here’s some old Ads I have saved. This is one from 1908.

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>>49832057
This one’s from 1915.