/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49807371
Next Hitler when? He's long overdue.

The debt was already taken out at lower rates, it only affects newly issued debt retard

>>49807381
My hands are tied until I get capital from the GME MOASS

>>49807399
Checked. Buy LUNC, next hitler, buy LUNC

>>49807371
You are going to get rekt

>The Fed will pivot in 2 more weeks!
I'm getting really sick of you bullniggers using this cope, it's almost as gay as the months before the initial March rate hike where you guys kept saying the Fed would NEVER raise rates, honestly you're probably one of the posters who was spamming that too.

>>49807596
they're right though
the fed cant literslly keep up for long without the US imploding

>>49807607
Bond market has 4% priced in as the current top rate, this keeps increasing each month so itll be higher once CPI makes a new high in the July report. Random /biz/ bulls are not smarter than the bond market and according to /biz/ 4% would already be impossible.

>>49807632
you think they're not going to slurp?
you think EU won't do QE?

buy anything

>>49807442
I honestly don't know where this thing is heading anymore. If they truly raise the rates it's very democratic, banking system gets BTFO'd, we probably take a blowtorch to the whole thing, restart while China probably meets us in terms of GDP/Capita..
The printing thing just seems obvious but idk anymore.

>>49807371
We all knew this would happen eventually. non-backed fiat + retarded debt economy will never stand. what retard thought this was a good idea in the first place? lmfao

>>49807632
They've literally already paved the path for negative interest rates. It might not happen next week but it's coming. Banks are just salivating at the thought of charging you money to hold onto your money.

>>49807672
The penalty for currency debasement in the US Constitution is death, right?
Seems like at some point people stopped giving a fuck.

>>49807607
see
>>49807371
>They can repeat this dance of inflation and rate hikes all they want until people drag them into the streets

people forget why bitcoin exists
and why the conditions that created it have only deteriorated since 2008

>>49807371

Nah, a few rate hikes is fine to control inflation.

>>49807381
The next hitler is too busy jerking off in his room and playing video games

>>49807895
My bad guys, I'll get on it once I've cleared Elden Ring a couple more times and exhausted my futa stash.

>>49807371
Gold is a store of value not an investment
If a car cost $20k = 10oz of gold now and we go into hyperinflation the same car can cost 200k = 10 oz of gold. Both the car and gold x10 but 10oz = 1 car at any time.

>>49807381
>He thinks Hitler didn't have a central bank printing fiat

>>49807398
they already borrow 7 trillion each year just to pay off interest on those lower rate debts, what do you think will happen when the new debt they borrow has 4 or even 5% rates?

even if rates and loans stay exactly the same they will default on interest payment within 27 years, you can calculate this

>>49807632
>Random /biz/ bulls are not smarter than the bond market
correct
>and according to /biz/ 4% would already be impossible.
not impossible, just means it has 27 years max left currently
so enough reason to still buy bonds before getting out

>>49808057
this, Hitler was one of them
reminder that H worked for the flowies to infiltrate NSDAP
reminder that H grandmother worked in a Rothschild mansion when she got pregnant

this time around there better not be another Hitler, there better be a Charlemagne or an Arthur

>>49807398
The majority of US government debt is short term bills.

>>49807697
That was the Coinage Act 1792. Leaving monetary standards out of the constitution was our founders' biggest oversight.

>>49807371
>The crab begins to change into a new sort of creature, one that exists to serve the parasite. It can no longer do the things that would get in the way of Sacculina's growth. It stops moulting and growing, which would funnel away energy from the parasite. Crabs can typically escape from predators by severing a claw and regrowing it later on. Crabs carrying Sacculina can lose a claw, but they can't grow a new one in its place. And while other crabs mate and produce a new generation, parasitized crabs simply go on eating and eating. They have been spayed. The parasite is responsible for all these changes.
>Despite being castrated, the crab doesn't lose its urge to nurture. It simply directs its affection toward the parasite.

>>49807371
what if they don't need to increase GDP?

>>49808031
What if car would cost 100 oz of gold?

>>49807381
In all honesty, it will probably come out of the Chinese Communist Party rather than some western country.

>>49808057
All of Germany's gold was used to pay it's (((war reparations))).

>>49807691
if my bank tries to charge me for holding my money, I will close my account and withdraw all of it.

>>49807895
Oh sorry about that

>The US Dollar is collapsing
didnt even need to read the rest of your post

I can’t see how you can compare the gold price in a recession during the gold standard vs the gold price in the fractional reserve banking system. Gold bagholders are fucking retarded. Gold had been made redundant

>>49808131
how do you calculate this anon?

and what does this mean for average Joe? I am afraid to hold cash, but I also don't know how to protect it. Everything is crashing

this is kind of how i see things play out screen cap this for my future children.


>USA gets close to defaulting maybe in a year
>during this time they develop a CBDC to instil confidence back into USD
>they spike inflation to crazy levels because of this new confidence
>CBDC + USD inflation creates one last golden bullrun
>another countries CBDC ends up being better and we get the transition that everyone expects (looking at you China, but maybe Europe if whites get luck)
>China and USA go to war because the cyber attacks on digital currency based systems + taiwan invasion for their tech resources

(i pray to allah the last point doesnt happen)

You cunts are so stupid.

Money is made up. So the solution the kikes come up with will benefit them and hurt us.

They can do anything they want. Just look at what they've already done.

Raise rates, who cares. They don't.
Flood the economy with fiat money, who cares.
Totally destroy the U.S. and global economy, who cares. THEY DON'T.

In the future, please try not to be such worthless
faggots, too scared to act.

>>49809390
>just withdraw it all bro
by then it's too late picrel

>>49807381
There are multiple and they are winning.
But they are on the wrong site and the White Race is loosing bad

Fear mongering and low iq thread
Repeating same thing for decades
You're in the same genre as buy gold cucks
If you knew how the system operated you wouldn't post such unbacked babble
Yeah everything dies everything ends
But saying bc things die > this is dying now
Water is wet
What is the real reason usd is going to fail
Give me one GOOD reason
I will monitor replies

Cryptotards really are no different from stock or real estate pumpers these days
>price only goes up, it will never collapse you fucking schizo!
Remember when crypto was insurance against fiat?

>>49808196
Bro Charlemagne was the biggest cuck in history he is literally the one that brought Jews into Europe and gave them exclusive rights to usury

>>49810241
So, what's your opinion and how they are going to handle it ?

>>49810241
>What is the real reason usd is going to fail

Because its outgrown its usefulness and the same people who came up with the fiat scam now have a new, better method of enslaving the population via currency. The gold standard was the tool of the Jew which is why they fought to defend it during WWII when Germany came off it and suddenly became an economic powerhouse while the rest of the world was in a depression. Then they switched to fiat once they controlled most of the world's gold so they can enjoy holding relatively stable assets while they inflate away people's savings and destroy the country with their fake money. Now they're moving to the final phase which is digital money entirely in their control.

It's going to fail because it's time for it to fail.

>>49808196
>reminder that H grandmother worked in a Rothschild mansion when she got pregnant

lmao still parroting this line? Get some new material JIDF.

>>49810448
is there any protection against this shit?

>>49810546
Depends on your level of technological ability and the level of state oppression present in your country. If you're still allowed to own assets then obviously holding crypto (XMR specifically) or gold is better than holding gov CBDCs with expiry dates, but I see the US moving to a more totalitarian model and I expect gold / asset seizures like in the 30s again. In that case, it's going to be much harder.

>>49807398
Exactly, that's the problem. We have tbills, not treasury bonds anymore to service the debt. And those are only 30 day tbills.

>>49810599
isn't XMR illegal in most countries?

>accuse creditors of violating human rights or not doing enough to fight global warming
>apply sanctions
>not technically a default
Heh nothing personell

>>49808585
That would have to be a pretty fancy car

>>49810642
Not that I'm aware of. I don't really have a hardon for XMR like some people on this board but it's used by criminals so it must be at least somewhat secure if they trust it, though I can't rule out the suspicion of it being created by glowies (BTC also has this issues), and the dev team have been known to be gay / woke retards at times so that knocks a level of trust off. There are other privacy coins and I don't see why picking up some of them as a hedge would be a bad idea, but I don't hold any of them nor know anything about them so I can't vouch for their privacy levels. I know some normie exchanges don't list XMR, but XMR is one of the few actual utility coins in that if you're stacking it in case of government oppression, use on KYC exchanges is irrelevant, thus so is its legal status because you'll be buying to use as barter / trade rather than speculative investment. Pic related is very out of date but is still useful to someone with enough tech know how to fill in the gaps.

I'll believe it when big corpos start pulling out of the NYSE and going to EVROPE or Singapore.

USD collapsing is turd world cope.

fed reversing does not necessarily mean inflation, that depends entirely on how they reverse.
lowering FEDFUNDS is not immediately inflationary. QE is only inflationary if coupled with government spending.
the fed tools aren't on a linear scale from "deflation" to "inflation". some are merely anti-deflationary.

I read OP's bullshit post and laugh at how retarded it is.
Then I remember why I should never even feel sorry for you retards. You all deserve to lose.

>>49811006
You're down 72%

>>49807371
So take out a massive loan and buy as many safe assets as possible?

>>49807660
are you the infrared predator analysis chart poster?

>>49807381
Probably shitposting here unironically

>>49807398
>muh rate hikes
this, people implying everything is le fed are absolutely clueless and still fall for the rate hike carrot on a stick

>>49808057
He did not, surprisingly enough. (((They))) took all his gold (remember that was a time when if you wanted to issue currency, it had to be backed by gold. Think about that, pure madness. Lol). So he said "I'm gonna back my currency with labour".
> labour? Like, from the people going to work in the morning?
Yep. I'm betting my country on the German work ethic
> But gold's got what currency craves

It actually worked. Germany got rid of the jew and went through the most spectacular anime comeback ever registered in history. It went from a nation destroyed by war to the greatest industrial power in the world in less than a decade.
Uncle Adolf knew how to kill the jew, and he almost succeeded. They had to organize globally and send all of their golems to fight him, and still it was really really close.
They haven't done the same mistake again unfortunately (so, win the war, enslave the white race and count on no reaction - like they've done after WWI). They spent a good 70 years making everyone retarded and dependent on the system, so now they can do Weimar republic all over again and this time there really will be no reaction.
Sorry Adolf, we didn't listen.

Or they could just tax the rich and reduce military spending.

>>49811060
this is unironically the smartest move. you should've done it a year ago though.

>>49811184
Except there's no safe assets where we're going

Someone already posted in another thread that the FED is still expanding its assets in terms of securities, At the exact same time as they are raising interest rates.

They WANT stagflation, They WILL cause stagflation and then a hyperinflationary crisis and bail out all their friends bad bets with securities purchases.

>>49810498
based /nsg/

>>49807381
There won't be one. The next Hitler is a collective, because an anonymous, leaderless collective can't be stopped.

>>49811180
>Or they could just tax the rich and reduce military spending.
>the "rich" (I assume you mean middle class) get fed up and leave your country for somewhere with better tax laws
>they take their business with them
>economy tanks
>your army is weak
>get invaded

Great plan.

>>49811214
did it ever occur to you that part of the hyperinflation was crypto creatijg billions out of thin air? that‘s why crypto won‘t recover

>>49811174
Based, a strong economy needs a strong people. There's no point having high GDP if your people are weak and miserable and your country is a shithole.

>>49811174
kek, the G*rms never had a fucking chance. their plan was fundamentally flawed because it was nationalistic. you cannot create a nationalistic empire, it has never worked in the history of the world. you need to colonize and racemix if you want your empire to last. that's just how it works.

>>49811224
> the "rich" (I assume you mean middle class)
You assume very wrong. Most actually rich people have not worked a day in their whole life. They're ancien regime garbage, literally pigs ready for the slaughter. They create nothing and destroy everything. They're what's killing the middle class.
But of course (((they))) will never agree on taxing themselves, would they

>>49811224
>nazi defending jewish elites
Take your meds schizo. The United States is way below the optimal point in the Laffer Curve.

>>49811295
> but but this isn't what they told me in school
You're either a kike or you've been brainwashed by some. Read up.

>>49811214
>the FED is still expanding its assets in terms of securities
wrong, asset purchases have effectively come to an end: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL

>>49810776
Euro is the biggest cuck of this jewish slav war.

>>49811312
How am I defending the Jewish elites? "Tax the rich" is the rallying cry of the useful idiot fake communists, and is parroted by the Jewish elites to get people to think the middle class is the problem. The problem isn't the rich not paying their taxes, the problem is taxes themselves are a system of slavery, and by supporting taxes at all you're supporting the Jewish usury system. The system is rotten to the core and must be taken down in favor of one not built on lies and slavery.

>>49807371
>>49807371
>retracing the path of every previous fiat currency in its final days
The USD is the first fiat currency. Prior to 1971, everyone just pegged their currency to (then gold backed) USD. When nixon floated the USD, Fiat was born.
>Weimar mark
mortgage backed, buy industry and agro. NOT a fiat.
>currency death
Sorry buckerino. USD remains the only credible currency, if only because everything else is worse still.
>>49811006
This man.

>>49811316
i've read Mein Kampf and it's shit. Hitler really wasn't that great. you're better off looking up to and studying Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar if you want to solve the problems we face.

>>49811367
A welfare state prevents usury. People don't need credit for housing, health and education if the government provides all three. Get a grip.

>>49811295
This is nonsense because it's been shown multiple times that race mixing is what happens in the waning days of an empire. Nationalistic empires usually fail because they make the mistake of allowing people from the places they colonized to enter their lands, or they grow so soft from the good life that ethnonationalism creates that they get conquered by another more violent and race conscious people.

>>49810967
>lowering FEDFUNDS is not immediately inflationary.
It would be immediately inflationary because the public's sentiment would be that the FED is giving up on taming inflation. Such a sentiment would drive expectations that inflation will remain high. It would essentially turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

>>49811394
> i've read Mein Kampf
[x] Doubt
Saying that just because I read it myself and it's very slow at best, garbage at worst

Mein Kampf teaches you one very important thing though. Hitler himself made it very clear over and over again in the book that he very well knew that the masses are completely retarded, and his strategy was not to make them non retarded but to leverage that retardness to his advantage (maybe for the greater good? Who knows who cares). He beat the jew at its own game, he didn't change the game. That's why he lost in the end.
People are naturally totalitarian and retarded, we've seen it the last 2 years. Oh, if there just were a way to remove the 90% of people that are susceptible to propaganda and leave only the 10% of actual thinking men. If just.

>>49811453
Do you agree that welfare states are only viable in ethnically homogeneous European nations?

>>49811453
> A welfare state prevents usury.
HAHAHAHAHA
I guess you'll welcome the UBI slavery we're heading towards then

>>49811472
You are in halfway. Sin is a reason countries start accepting imigrants.

>>49807371
>default on its debt
literally impossible, all they need to is press some buttons on a computer and the debt gets squared

>>49811572
>sin

In what context? If you mean biblical, then the bible is very clear that hordes of invaders are a punishment from God, the Tower of Babel is quite straightforward in its message.

>>49807371
Post-WWI Germany and modern USA have some pretty major differences. Biggest difference being that Germany was purposefully kneecapped and saddled with extremely harsh restitution demands as the loser of WWI, whereas modern US is in the opposite position of having thr dominant world reserve currency status and driving sanctions / restitution demands from other countries rather than being held accountable themselves as the loser of a world war.

>>49811543
Not UBI, just giving everyone bare minimum living conditions and opportunities that inmates get

>>49807381
Next Hitler is too busy drawing Furryporn with his troon patreons

>>49807632
>according to /biz/ 4% would already be impossible
Each extra % add 300,000,000,000 USD for the taxpayers to pay every year in debts' interests. Each extra fucking point. That's not even removing a single penny of debt.

Where do you draw the line? When 100% of the public fiscal budget is spent in interests' payments? Even if you do so, it still wont match with the current inflation lol.

>>49811472
Stalin was aware of this and tried to place every ethnicity in the Russian Empire into its own sub-republic and make it stay there. He even made a homeland for Jews, on the other side of Siberia in the middle of a swamp, as far as possible from the rest of Russia.

>>49811693
we're going to see some deep-end shit happen after the QT show ends, for sure

Expect the worst kinds of fiat fuckery ever

>>49811514
depends on whether they upset expectations. and even then, it's hard to tell what's gonna happen - markets won't like the fed giving up on inflation. perhaps bonds might boom again while everything else goes to shit, but i don't see how that will immediately cause inflation, either, especially with consumer sentiment still in the gutter and companies still struggling.

>>49811594
it has a price, though, depending on which button they press. for instance, paying off the debt with freshly created dollars from QE would most likely not be inflationary (or at least not like you'd expect it to be), but shift the UST component of M2 over to USD, thus devaluing USD and making UST more valuable. the consequences of such a move are difficult to judge.

>>49811739
Guess that excuses the white genocide then.

>>49811793
I'm not trying to excuse him. He was just trying to preserve his commie empire. He was aware of the dangers of ethnicity mixing, that's all.

>>49811743
>Expect the worst kinds of fiat fuckery ever
Indeed, i'm preparing for full talmudic clownery. I'm not sure we even have a year left since the current situation is so critical. Everything is accelerating at an insane pace. That's why you don't have a word about it in the (((MSM))). Contrary to 2008, here they want to avoid a panic at any cost because the situation is so beyond fucked.

I'm doing my best considering my neet budget, got myself a stack of gold and silver, few 20L cans of diesel and gasoline, few shelves of long lasting food and "pleasure" products (rum, whiskey, chocolate, coffee, tea, cigs,..) to barter, medicines and i changed as much as i could the high-technicity products i use (bought new laptop, smartphone, changed the car's tires,...). I hope this will do the trick.

If i had more money availible i'd buy few acres of forest in the middle of nowhere just in case. And certainly an ICE generator, a big ass tank for gas, solar panels,... stuff like this to be 100% autonomous.

>>49811745
i have no idea what any of those capitalised words mean but the usd can never be devalued without deliberate consent because it has the backing of the largest military force in history, $1 is worth whatever the us government says it's worth until someone has the balls to square up and tell them it's not

>>49810599
>then obviously holding crypto
This. You won’t have to worry about your possessions if you don’t have any.

>>49812196
>that's my secret, Klaus

>>49812064
>because it has the backing of the largest military force in history
the US is not gonna attack japan, europe or china over the dollar. it can't, "largest military force" or not. this is not the world your grandparents grew up in.

>>49807371
>massive spike in inflation
The thing is that inflation is slow and insidious, not massive and spiky, even YoY or MoM

>>49811237
Are you actually retarded or trolling?

>>49811597
Those posts by that Swedeanon four years ago are excellent. They demonstrate that the modern globalist dream of a single global empire is Satanic and the work of the Antichrist.

>>49812064
Stop looking at the world through a model that assumes formal, geographical countries as self-contained decision units. That's the sort of concept that lets a globohomo empire exist entirely under the radar. The US elites have self-interests like any other. What do they have to gain by fighting over the dollar? They could have levelled China out of being a threat at any point over the last several decades. They didn't because it let them debase the currency to make themselves wealthier while hiding inflation.
I genuinely don't know if this collapse will be inflationary or deflationary, but it will undoubtedly come down to these incentives I'm still trying to figure out.
An inflationary collapse is typically where empires have ended. It's the final step of using access to credit to surreptitiously enrich the elite, where the rug of the fantasy debt market is pulled and the chips of real assets stay in place. But this is made more complicated in modern times, as the interests that govern the dollar are not one and the same with local US elites that are invested in its future.
Making the US default while maintaining the integrity of the financial system sets the groundwork for a Great Reset where the dollar transitions to a worldwide CBDC, but it also rugs the entire US asset-owner class in favor of the plebs.

>>49812442
There are some other good ones too.

>>49811925
>the guy that planted russians into every non russian state didn't want race mixing

>>49807381
I'm right here fren. Sorry i'm late, i slept in.

>>49812278
america already owns eu and japan, china can't crash the $ or they crash with it
>>49812489
>What do they have to gain by fighting over the dollar?
as insulated as they are from the wider public i'm pretty sure elites don't want the us to descend into a nationwide warzone of mass chaos and chimpouts because that's what will happen if the $ gets devalued

>>49812324
In other words, even second over second a national currency can't just literally hyperinflate and collapse the way equities can sometimes just suddenly collapse

>>49812064
not how it works bub, how's all that military power working out to contain the price of food and energy

>>49810447
Handle what it's all by design and a system of balances and moving money around
The system continues as normal we've had inflation before

>>49810448
It's literally desired by every single human being in the United States and across the globe
It's not just useful it's sought after by the force of a thousand penises desiring to fuck huge Latina ass

>>49812910
lmao, biden is sitting on his throne rn assuming the mr burns excellent position, this is a controlled demolition like every other recession was before it, build up the middle class up then destroy it just enough so that they have to start all over but not too much that everyone's out on the street baying for blood, america hasn't taken any military action so you know inflation is intentionally being allowed to rise

>>49810448
Jew here. I’m just bag holding crypto. Guess I didn’t get the memo. Feels bad

>>49813148
they want it so they don't immediately default on dollar denominated debts if the fed rugpulls them. at any other time no one wants dollars and immediately sells them for assets
>>49813195
>they are in perfect control and all-powerful
you are in for a very rude awakening

>>49807691
this and the CBDC. Europe was already doing it btw

>>49807371
something I noticed lately, the yield curve on short term bills and corporates inverted, which i've never seen before

>>49812543
You mutts and your obsession with race.
Be it poltard or sjw you will scour the world for a flimsy justification for your evil. You so badly want to special little chosen ones saving the world from the unclean ones. Newsflash your skin or whatever womb you came from means nothing.
Your mind and actions are the only thing that matter. Skin and race says nothing about who you are. Go back to a real church you have lost yourself to pride and wrath. You people unironically need Jesus.

>>49811174
lol, Hitler just used the fact that Germany's rivals were too scared of war to shake off the limitations of Versailles. But then his aggressiveness backfired when it sent Germany to a war against all the other major powers, leaving his country in ruins.

>>49813747
Most blessed reply in this thread.

>>49807381
he's in the gym right now

>>49807660
Can you update this plot to include the last two years, retard?

>>49813747
>race says nothing about who you are
False. Cartesian duality is debunked nonsense. Mind is not independent of race.

>>49810420
While I like Charlemagne for other reasons, you are unfortunately correct. Allowing Jews to practice usury in Europe was when all this nonsense really ramped up and why Jews have such an advantage right now.

>>49807381
Trump was "supposed" to be the next Hitler but he "turned out" to be a kike loving liberal pussy.

you guys are really smart I wish I knew something in depth

>>49807371
>fed will have to reverse course soon
yes, we know
it's called QE infinity for a reason

>>49810241
>What is the real reason usd is going to fail
it's not the USD failing, retard, it's the US treasury bonds becoming worthless
cash is collateralized with that trash and the only idiots who buy it are central banks
there is a breaking point to this ponzi, just like any other ponzi scheme
you can't just keep paying interest from subsequent bond sales (new investors paying for the old ones)

>>49813747
>Newsflash your skin or whatever womb you came from means nothing
genetics are everything, and there is one clear race that has seen significantly more natural selection over all others. humans are ultimately only dna, and the more equal you try to treat them the more the natural hierarchy stands out.

>>49812064
ah yes the same military force that fucked off with their tail between its legs from Afghanistan kek

>>49808196
Charlemagne allowed Jews to commit Usury in Europe. You are literally a fuckin kike.

>>49814602
Genes play a huge part in life but to claim they are everything is incredibly naive. Even if you are a statistic worshiper you must treat everyone based on the individual merit of their actions. A kid with "good genes" could grow up be psycho murder or a bum if raised in bad conditions.

There's more to humanity the our genetic code.

>>49810448
wait.. why then would i want to trade/invest in a currency that goes poof?

>>49809390
>He doesn't know that CBDCs will be implemented to prevent that very thing from happening.
Currency will no longer have a physical form

>>49814918
the point is when you push true equality dna becomes more and more relevant, not less.

>>49814684
The military force did its job. It occupied Afghanistan for 20 years and could have kept doing it for as long as it liked if it wished to.
The US failure in Afghanistan has many reasons, but lack of military force isn't one of them.

>>49807660
That definitely doesn't look like a chart some random dude made with absolutely no evidence.

>>49808031
This is true, but the goldbugs are arguing that gold is currently being heavily suppressed to hide the declining state of fiat money. If people saw gold, the traditional hedge against fiat, start skyrocketing it would send signals that fiat is in a bad place. Gold could easily be worth $10k in today's fiat, but whether or not you believe that is up to you to do your research.

>>49807381
Don’t you get it anon? White people aren’t the evil that must be purged this time, Hitler was evil, we’re taught this since before we can talk now days. Things are all going well you’re just on the wrong side

>>49807371
throes. death throes. not "throws."
>>49807596
you must be new to markets. contemplate this image.

>>49809390
through what instrument do you believe your employer will be allowed, by the government, to pay you?
minimum $25,000 balance, chump

>>49813344
yeah sorry man but consider being ready to leave any country at any time.

>>49810120
Physical gold and silver. Also establish a relationship with Jesus Christ and seek him in e everything you do.

XMR

>>49810628
>30 day
it's not quite that bad but yes that is what's happening. the short end, 1yr and less, has huge representation by % of the total debt.
that is in large part why the fed is backed into a corner, and all rate hikes are just head fakes.

>>49810776
google moved its HQ to ireland like a decade ago. a dozen non-faggot corps moved their HQs to texas.
palantir -- the #1 spy tech company of the US -- has no debt, and a stockpile of both cash and gold.
plenty of corps know.

>>49811180
that is what happens first. historically, empires give up their expeditionary forces. it isn't enough. all the welfare spending, which is many times that of the military budget, comes crashing down too.

>>49812718
>china can't crash the $ or they crash with it
not entirely correct. china will suffer but they come out on top. they are perfectly capable of consuming all the goods they export to the US. they have no use for USTs other than financing world ambitions which would, at this point, be better served with a gold/oil "dollar", which is why they've been in discussion with russia about it for some 15-20 years.
their economy would just shift from "we export all this junk" to "we make things slightly better than we used to but we keep it all" and are massively wealthy. their poorest people would look like americans, surrounded by cheap plastic bullshit, but they'd still be a lot happier than they are right now.

>>49812064
this is a good way to put it.
the minute this kicks off, the US simply walks away from its "obligations." we don't staff any bases anymore. buy the land back, lol.
russia can have all of ukraine, poland, central europe, half of germany, all of the fuck-it-stans, and china can have all of APAC. that part might take decades, but it would be inevitable. the price for repudiating the dollar is high. it will be paid, though, the minute those politicians decide it's worth it.

>>49815260
>This is true, but the goldbugs are arguing that gold is currently being heavily suppressed to hide the declining state of fiat money. If people saw gold, the traditional hedge against fiat, start skyrocketing it would send signals that fiat is in a bad place.
this is a fair assessment but you neglect that "goldbugs" are midwits who accidentally are on the right path.
real investors have two very real case studies, both recent, both still relevant, and it's simply up to cryptofags and milkshakers and everyone else to ignore the rabid goldbugs and accept gold for what it truly is and what it's actually about to do.

>>49811983
Godspeed bro, even if this is not the "big one" your decisions are all good financially.

>>49812324
executive order 6102 literally revalued the dollar from $21 per ounce of gold to $35 per ounce, practically overnight, so yes this does happen

>>49813357
U r retarded

>>49807371
so what year are we on the weimar timeline?

>>49814592
They can print infinitely
Japan has been doing it for decades and even their currency got devalued its just a pendulum swinging

>>49807660
cool so a bitcoin will be worth 1 billion IDIOT

>>49808407
time for a new constitution, cryptonomicon style.

>>49815617
>accept gold for what it truly is and what it's actually about to do.
So according to your chart, 10x-es in the same time frame bitcoin will 100 or 1000x-es?

>>49807371
The usd is one of the most stable global currencies right now and if you weren't an American you'd actually be feeling that.

>>49810420
>>49814213
>>49814714
Charlemagne was literally the one who made it illegal for Jews to engage in money changing and usury with Christians.

>>49816866
That was after he used them as tools "Capitulary for the Jews", also you can also look on how his inheritors treated jews, Hitler would wish he did it

>>49807398
Lol.
I love bond market illiterates like you.

>>49810241
Usd will fail if it loses the petro/base currency status.
Resources would be the other, but US and the west have already set the stage for that by exporting industry offshore thanks to environmentalism.
Wont happen over night....

>>49816940
Jews were allowed to live in segregated communities while long being forbidden by the Church to lend money at interest. The king did not "use them" as anything other than doctors and diplomats to the Middle-East. It's precisely because they were caught charging interest to destitute farmers that he had to formalize the prohibition in writing with threat of corporal punishment.

>>49815617
Midwits? Lol right for the wrong reasons. Gold and silver and heavily suppressed you crypto cuck retard. That is a a fact. Stackers are and will be right for all the right reasons and you will starve to death.

>>49807371
>The fed can't raise rates without causing the government to default on its debt
Total nonsense. Stopped reading here.

>>49815928
That's only a government intervention though
You can value a unit of currency any way you like but it still inflates or disinflates relatively slowly compared to the time scale of equities for example

>>49815617
retard alert!

>>49807660
lol lmao

>>49807371
judt two more weeks!!

>>49808810
Probably.

>>49807371
These Weimar Republic comparisons are retarded. Those guys were riding horses n shiet. It's a completely different game nowadays. Suck my dick.

>>49816036
>Japan has been doing it for decades
if you have watched any anime in the last 20 years you absolutely know their economy is shit

>>49813344
Based. You just brought me back to the ground. Allthought I wouldn't want to miss the discussion going on here.

>>49808131
>even if rates and loans stay exactly the same they will default on interest payment within 27 years, you can calculate this
No they won't. Yearly payments on debt is 1 8th of tax revenue. Worst case they cut the military a bit and raise taxes. Boom fixed. That would be enough cash to ensure payments continue. But they don't need that anyway since tax revenue will likely keep increasing anyway. For instance they just added a new excise tax for chemical products imported.

>>49813742
This was discussed some days before on /biz/. Check out the the yield curve right before the lock-downs. Same situation...

>>49814025
Yeah

>>49810448
Nah, the real reason why it is going fall is because post-WWII US hegemony is losing its grip that resulted from decades of bad domestic economic polices.
All of the big boys are smelling the blood in the water. China and Russia aren't saber-rattling just for shits and giggles.

>>49811636
Next Hitler sounds based af

>>49816478
>So according to your chart, 10x-es in the same time frame bitcoin will 100 or 1000x-es?
zero chance unless btc breaks the 0.7 correlation with tech stocks

>>49818471
Did you not notice when congress had to pass emergency debt limit bills twice last year to avoid default? And how that occurred prior to Powell jacking interest rates up by 1.75%?

>>49807381
The next Hitler is the kid who killed Harambe. He's probably like 9 years old right now. The time traveler tried to "Go back in time to kill Hitler" by pushing him into the pit but instead of fixing things we get the dead Harambe timeline where everything goes to shit.

>>49816034
In my opinion: stone age.

>>49814283
>Financed by Jewish bankers to make people hate Caucasians.
Sounds like he was.

>>49807381
right now he is being molded by society. He is probably in kindergarten and being forced tranny and queer propaganda. slowly and slowly developing a hatred. he will go on through elementary school where he is taught he is wrong for being white, where being male is wrong, to accept feminism, to accept that his country has always been horrible and he is responsible even though he is merely 11. He will go to middle school and learn about homosexuality and how to have sex for the non binaries in sex ed and go through high school where you cant even say 'beat ____ school' because its offensive, where he is taught neoliberal marxism and fed vicious lies. then he goes onto uni where its not higher education but more and more lies and deception. and then one day. one fateful day. for no reason at all. the hatred leaks. the hatred and anger seeps through the cracks and you see the rise of a far right movement, not alt right, not proud goys, not fuddsters but actual black shirt angry youth. and they are angry, it will be a beautiful sight

>>49807371
>m-muh debt
>m-muh insolvent government
>m-muh inflation
And how is that a problem. Considering inflation, which will thus inflate GDP, the real rates are now EVEN MORE negative than pre-2020. This is government's wet dream, literally free money to wipe out the previous debt without even have to make any effort.

Because Syscon’s merge mining does require extra hardware power, it effectively recycles resources already being dedicated on keeping bitcoin network secure; enduring an environmentally friendly approach to proof of work security.

>>49807381
The entire society we live in is structured to make sure that does not happen.

>>49819262
Unless the FBI gets to him first and grooms him to shoot up his school. Or sets him up in a trap in his mid-20s by joining his organization and planting "radical ideas" into the group so that they can arrest him.

>>49808810
Chinese perhaps but not the communist party if societal turmoil reached a breaking point in China they would have a Han nationalist revolution. Which to be fair a resurgent Chinese empire wouldn’t function much different than the Chinese state of the last 30 years, a command economy ruled by a central party.

>>49807660
What is this absolute fucking garbage.

>>49819337
thats all and exactly what i was saying

>>49807371
The opposite is happening, retard.

>>49807381
it’s me.

>>49807672
Oy Vey! It wasn’t retarded, it was intentional! Dumb, corruptable Goys.

>>49819912
Well I hope everyone has their Han surnames picked out and a very marketable skill.

>>49807371
>The fed can't raise rates without causing the government to default on its debt
The Fed can raise interbank rates independently from Treasury rates if it really wants to, simply by buying near 100% of the treasuries.
>because the debt to GDP ratio is too high.
That's purely psychological, if no one believes it can be too high it can't be too high. It's just paper.

>>49807371
Feds don't control the bond yields you moron.

>>49808196
Would rather see a home-grown Karl Urban Style Judge Dredd that just works all of them with Breech of Public Trust, Violation of Oath of Office, Corruption, Conspiracy, Blackmail, Treason, Sedition, Racketeering, Monopoly, Corruption of the Youth, Bioterrorism, Genocide, Terrorism, Propaganda and Pedophila. Judge them all right on the spot, wherever they are found, and spend the .30 cents for a 9mm Hollow Point right to the dome. Easy, peasey, Japaneasy.

>>49815049
You are literally getting paid in USD or equivalent fiat.
The only difference is that the poof is inflation

>>49807659
EU is following us in doing QT. The only retards that can’t are the Japanese because they are a failed state

>>49822427
>EU is following us in doing QT
They are trying to keep periphery bond interest rates reasonable with smoke and mirrors, that will fail.

A return to massive bond buying by the ECB is almost guaranteed. The EU is not like the US. The economy is much weaker and there is no fiscal way to spread money around.

>>49807371
>The US Dollar is collapsing. The fed can't raise rates without causing the government to default on its debt
> muh magic numberino

Raise rates to 10%
Raise corporate taxes
Announce New New Deal Green
Employ the newly unemployed from step 2 in building infrastructure, prefab houses for niggers and spam MLRS

There problem solved

>>49815260
how can you suppress it that much. Selling paper gold can only do so much. At some point the thing has to be delivered. gold isn't suppressed, and when people actually start buying it it goes up immediately. What is true is that owning physical gold is way better than anything else even if you happen to pay a premium