/biz/ - Business & Finance

It's over.

Happy Juneteenth /smg/. Make sure to say your prayers to St. Floyd today at church!

Give me life hacks
tell me your stories of SARMs and roids and how to live better than normies.

FUCK normies

I'm gonna gambatte and get a petgirl harem or something

Nice squeeze baggies

Can you feel the winds changing?

take care not to catch the falling knife OR short the bottom

dxy has NOT peaked
10yr has NOT peaked
the fed is NOT still printing (17billion increase on an 8 trillion dollar balance sheet is NOTHING)
spx WILL hit 3000
spx WILL NOT hit sub 2000
eat shit to both permabulls and permabears

You know what? I thought the VIX was in a channel. Now I see it's in a triangle that's going to probably violently break upwards

>>49807050
>Give me life hacks
Intermittent fasting keeps me young.

>>49807011
Cute boy.

>>49807060

I agree they seem to want DXY 110 and 40-50% down. But events may unfold such that they are forced to back off of that.

>The Housing Market is fine bro
>The Housing Market is not going to fall off a cliff
The Housing Market:

>>49807156
like what? theyre the ones making this happen, its what they want
only if supply side issues are suddenly fixed will this be over. spoilers: not gonna happen

>>49807198
Fabulous floor plan tho

We wont be seeing any mumus for a long while.Good.

>>49807198
Damn, what a view though.

>>49807220
>>49807269
You guys are right, the floor plan and view are literally to die for!

Well gentlemen its been an honor. Wife found out I've that I lost half our retirement. Drinking some black label and going to use my 1911. Life goes by quick. I remember being 20 years old with not a care. 56 years old here BTW. Enjoy life bros, and make sure to tell people to be nicer when they are assholes. The wife and I grew apart but would never leave eachother until now. I dont want to give half of my pension but I have no choice. This way she gets fucking nothing and I get some piece and quiet. I hope u all make it because I sure as shit didn't. Time to see if there is more to this reality. Later fags.

>>49807424
dont do it bro, you can make it back. its just money

>>49807424
as long as you didn’t do it via crypto you’re in no worse position than a significant portion of society and for the same exact reason
killing ourself over that is retarded
now, if it was crypto in your fucking 50s then yeah do it

>>49807424
Don't do it you'll go to hell. Just start over again

>>49807424
Don’t do it. You still have plenty you can do. You can still live a cozy peaceful life. Go rent a cabin and take a week to reflect.

>>49807424
You know there is more left to, enjoy it they take it all from us

>>49807424
What the fuck is her problem? The broader market is down 25%, so no one is getting away unscathed here.
There's so many better options than roping. Don't do it.

>>49807424
Cant believe these fags fell for this pasta

>>49807424
Do a barrel roll.

>>49807048
It's called Coonteenth.

>>49807424
Can't get it up anymore, huh?
Have you tried viagra?

>everyone is acting like michael j burry
yup its the bottom

>>49807247
I'm bullish on MDB. I'm going to DCA that until it starts booming up.

Every.Fucking.Time.

>>49807773
>Michael Burry himself said we need to hit between 2800-3000 on SPY before we can go back to the bull run

Face it, the macro news is all bad and will continue to be bad until November. Just wait until the layoffs start outside of tech, then everyone will start freaking out. We’ll have another liquidity crisis which no normal person gives two shits about, but the moment you start threatening their jobs in an inflationary environment, then the panic sets in

>>49807773
Dude even technical indicators point down. It’s not just sentiment. It’s going down broski.

>>49807209

Japan or Europe are both getting fucked by this deliberate demolition and may not take the abuse much longer. Fed might have to give up on DXY 110 and help the Japanese in particular to stabilize their bonds and currency. What effect that will have on stocks I am uncertain.

How do I buy options for low volume stocks? I wanted to buy some DRV calls but the volume is so low I will most likely scam myself twice when I buy the call from bots and inevitably sell it back to them, going twice in their favor.

>>49807424
>Drinking some black label
Damn that was my go to for so long. I switched to cheap whiskey now that inflation has rekt my cost of living. What a strange phrase. There’s a cost to living.

>>49807906
the japanese are the ones demolishing their own currency, and the euro is in the gutter because of, in part, the ukraine war
its not exactly the fully picture that the fed is deliberately destroying the euro or yen, we're deliberately cutting rates and the europoors and nips have their own issues to sort out

>>49807902
Everyone thinks so, so it won't.
That is the way this game works.

>he didn’t buy GME as a hedge against the market crash
Kek baggies

Question for olderfags and the more n in knowledgeable: Did the entire market always drop as a whole prior to ETFs? Did mutual funds create the same effect? I hold stocks that have gone down for almost no reason. Some have gone up for almost no reason, but in general they all sell off even if the company is doing fine or even great despite the current economy.

>>49807870
we've had our correction, not every single one needs to end in an earth shattered pants shitting crash or financial crisis because reddit and youtube says so. Tech has always been a shitty field for employment. Most of the people getting fired are just unnessicary and the companies being liquidated produce literally nothing of value, call me when Microsoft or Tim Apple is filing for chapter 11.
>>49807902
>muh technicals
I see plenty of retards using technicals to call rallys that never come, same for crashes

>>49808082
I’m not a technicals guy. I’m just saying everything is pointing to a long drop. Including shit I usually ignore. I still can’t believe people really think we’re anywhere close to a bottom other than plain contrarianism.

>>49808079
Yes. Circuit Breakers existed long before ETFs due to the exact thing you are talki g about happening so much. If anything this current ceash is rather unique because of just how drawn out it has been.

>>49808143
the bear case is literally just "line go down forever"

siga homophobes

>>49807424
At least stream it faggot.

>>49807988

Yes they're the ones who got themselves into debt and doing the YCC, but our rates and currency relatively rising puts upward pressure on theirs as it otherwise becomes more attractive to hold USTs and exacerbates their bond demand problems. Plus the war energy disruption (they're net importers hence more vulnerable) is hitting their currency harder hence pushing bond yields again.

You can say "not our problem", but let's not forget they have an enormous savings account in the form of trillions of our bonds and stocks. Which they can sell to get dollars to defend the yen with. So if we don't help them by printing to help take some pressure off, they can make it our problem real quick. If we do, do stocks go up or down? I'm not sure how the market reacts desu.

>>49808079
Everything has been fake and gay since the early aughts to most that pay attention and really since the mid-late 90's for everyone in the know. Derivatives are a cancer on finance and promote degenerate behavior at such a scale that even the absolute stupidest play anyone here has ever made does not even begin to compare if you rolled them all into one big gay butt-bashing ball and they somehow formed into the giant gay baby that is the market as most people alive know it. It's also why Bill and Hillary (derivatives didn't get out of hand until that ratfucking piece of shit helped it along and his missus accelerated it further as well) are shit. Really the beginning of fake and gaydom in the markets began in the 70's, but the initial pop in the $AIDS ticker cases starts way back around when Kennedy got his noggin jogged. Before then it was largely just standard carpet bagging and fraud, now everything has ballooned to the scope and scale that it threatens more than just the dipshits that participate in it directly.

Kill the markets, save the dollar. It will happen again. It's literally happening now. It impacts far more than just the USD as well.

>>49807068
unless jesus comes back within the next couple of days then yes

>>49807068
That looks like a cup and handle to me.

>>49808349
Jesus coming back is ultimate bull case for VIX.

No one here goes /fraud/ mode or has insight?

>>49807111
>Intermittent fasting keeps me young.
hmmmmmmm
not prolonged fasting?

>>49807198
never going to get a housing dip, never ever, big money will own everything forever and we will become peasant slaves

>>49808216
the fed will not stop tightening until multiple consecutive lower cpi prints. inflation is barely controlled by demand destruction and wont be eased until supply side issues are eased. the fed has no control over this
the growth multiple baked into spx 4800 was so fucking gargantuan that without QE, it will not be reached again for multiple years
those are both facts. they both support the bear case. this puts spx at around 3000 and will probably wick shortly into the upper 2000s because these things tend to oversell before bottoming
there's the bear case, now its your turn

>>49808323
Two men enter one man leaves!

>>49808216
read the news...many more rate hikes ahead. more pain in the future, don't be a dumbass

https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Inflation/Fed-governor-calls-for-another-75-basis-points-hike-in-July

>>49808322
they sell us treasuries for dollars and that only raises treasury yields and does more of the feds job for it, frankly. why would that destroy the dollar? it would just strengthen the yen, which yeah would slowdown dxy, but by making our treasuries even MORE attractive?

>>49807068

>VIX was in a channel

I tried telling niggas this a while ago but was told TA on VIX was dumb. Yet the bottom of the channel perfectly pegged the top of the bear rally. Still salty I missed it because there was a false breakdown.

Also I agree about the bull flag. Funny how it's pointing to just before midterms. Just one of those weird coincidences.

>>49808525
>>49808561
>the line will go down forever
>the fed will do all they can to stop inflation, even though they know they really can't
>in an election year
>muh demand destruction
lmao people are just going into more debt to buy more expensive gas and commodities, you can't destroy demand for necessities

>>49808631
as expected, unintelligible coping
i literally said the line wasnt going to go down forever just to throw you a bone

still voting democrat

>>67241869
>>67241869
which one of you is doing this on /fit/

>>49807424
See you here Tuesday.

>>49808667
its not coping its a fact, watch a gas refinery blow up soon, gas will go up to 6-7 dollars nationally, there will be no demand destruction. there hasn't been. Oil is just bottlenecked by refineries rn

>>49808631
no one said it will go down forever, but in the immediate future it looks bad yes. consumer confidence is going down, you're seeing reduced spending globally as people hold onto their currencies so they afford groceries, gas, bills, etc. all of this creates a domino effect which hurts big companies, which then lays off people, etc etc.

>>49808216
Ok dude. Buy buy buy then. I give up. I’m going to hold out. Cap this and make fun of me in a couple of weeks.

>>49808570

I think as long as it stabilized the Yen and their yields they'd be happy, doesn't mean they need to kill the dollar. IMO the risk is the extra treasury supply may spike our yields to a level well beyond what the Fed wants to see.

>>49808692
Doing what it’s deleted?

>can't trade until tuesday because of a black skin holiday in the land of the free

At least I can laugh and th cryptobros

>>49808802
i think any rally that would come from dxy "topping" from this scenario playing out would still be eventually brought back down. even if yield climb too high, the fed cant do another round of QE right now
>>49808817
https://boards.4channel.org/fit/thread/67241869#top
>>49808758
when the fuck did i say there was going to be oil demand destruction? there wont be. thats why we're still going down

>>49807068
it's not in a channel, it's in a huge ass cup, that may form a handle as well. watch for october when vix spikes back way the fuck

>>49808847
meant to reply to
>>49808773
and no, we're not going to go down because people refuse to stop driving to their jobs they refuse to quit to stop paying for goods they refuse to stop buying to consume at their homes which they refuse to stop paying their mortgages on all so jpow can defeat inflation he can't solve.

THREAD THEME:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUplgIbGaWY

>>49807198
Plebbit tier memeing there. terrible. leave

>>49808970
remember this post when unemployment actually goes up, which it hasnt so far

>>49809034
remember this post when dxy hits 120 and then 150, october and january, respectively

>>49807068
The VIX is In The Channel. The Volga Channel. It's Going To Hit The 200 DMA Soon.

>>49807424
the eternal boomer
ruins the country then right when shit starts getting tough takes the easy way out
shan't be missed, more elbow room for the rest of us

>>49809047
what? i dont disagree with that. and it certainly doesnt conflict with what i said

>>49809034
unemployment will continue to go down because more people have to go back to working thanks to the liquidations and price hiking, and there are still plenty of jobs for them, they didn't even fire my brother for missing his job orientation to spend the day in jail, he just has to go finish it whenever. he's not even an important worker they just need a shelf stocker.

>>49809064
thats when you go all in on 3x VIX etfs

>>49807424
I’m down 1.6 mil which is 60% of my retirement fund. My plans to hope it keeps crashing and jump on TQQQ when the numbers look real bad.

There are zero (0) remaining valid bull cases for the current state of the stock market and crypto is a leading indicator and has been for quite some time. All-time trendline on the S&P would be at about 1950-2050 which means everything is more than likely severely overvalued at anything past 3k and that is being wildly generous. Economic policy around the world of the most influential currencies is no longer bullish, money does not flow nearly as freely as it did even just nine months ago, and shit has to get shaken out before it can eventually resume climbing again. It's literally how it all works, it's the reason why for half a century Republicans have pumped the markets and Democrats have dumped them, because like all great countries and currencies we have our cake and eat it too by having these kinds of cycles. This shit is not that hard to understand. Anyone thinking a Dem presidency would end with the markets not getting shaken the fuck out is retarded or deluded or both, same way anyone thinking a red tie in the oval office wouldn't result in the exact fucking opposite happening. We're far from the only country that pulls this kind of charade, and there is generally enough bread and circus and rearing of children to distract everyone from these facts for it to not matter. But as it stands literally everything based in finance operates off of the greater fool theory because of all of this. Fool enough people into thinking one thing will happen so you can profit off of the opposite, generally the contrarians but not always. It's also why a lot of the bulls I've seen sperging about "BRO U AIN'T BICHAEL MURRY BRO SHIT GON' GO BACK UP BRO I KEEP HEARING YOU GUYS SAY THIS BRO IT'S NOT HAPPENING BRO SHOE-SHINE BOY GIVING STOCK TIPS BRO" are going to get absolutely fucking heemed into the center of the Sun, because they are the aforementioned contrarians. The fucking Fed sold everything at the literal top last November and actual idiots think line don't go down, KEK

>>49808631
you talk like a fag and your shits all retarded

>>49807424
This isn't the way to go out, if you're really planning to flubb yourself with a .45 ACP then you withdraw your entire 401K, spend all of your savings, and ONLY then do you KYS.

Fucking amateurs and suicide, man.

>>49809121
just saying, remember it. simple as. stay flourished, fren.

>Elon Mutt failed to pump dogshit with his twit
It's ogre bull sisters.... We tried

>>49809212
cope, you're going to be gored when the bull run resumes soon after this retarded drawn out correction

>>49809261
any particular reasons for those numbers and times? those are pretty fat dxy values

>>49809306
SOXL TO SEVENTY RIGHT SISTER?

>>49809310
vix hits 85 in october and then goes over 100 in jan

>>49809377
If it hits 5.92 I’ll jump in.

>>49807198
>as is
>all it takes is one good mudslide and your property is 10 feet lower and house destroyed
>150k
LOL NOT A CHANCE
You know how costly this is especially with a home and potential gas lines getting in the way of fixing this issue? I actually have no idea but probably costly. 50k tops for me to seriously consider this.

>>49809133
Just go long tails call on some VIX tenor

>>49807198
Wait a second theres another home in that pic that completely collapsed in the landslide. Nuh uh 50k is too much. Roo even get the retaining wall built you'd have very little space for it to be built unless you get permission from those that own the surrounding land to build into their property which only increased the cost. Not worth it why even build a house there in the first place!?

just saying, watch for october. a radiated halloween to trick or treat.

>>49809064
Explain what this means i dont understand. Whats a volga channel and are you implying up or down on vix?

>>49807424
Realized or unrealized? You're only 57, the market will recover in 5 years (probably). Also don't do it, it's just money.

>"Hello please connect me to Mr. Biden as soon as possible"
>"Yes I would like to share my opinions on this new holiday"
>"No you may not put me on hold"
>"Yes this is very important as the holiday is affecting my stock market"
>"No I said I will not hold thank you"

>>49809484

IMO it's totally worthless. Land like that will just keep giving way every time it rains too much. But they simply need to find one sucker. It's like putting a super high ask out there hoping to catch a fat finger.

>>49809500
The. Volga. Channel.

>>49809047
What would that signify?

>>49809602
Explain it or should i just assume its another meme like those anons with max pain theory back in february or quad witching lol

>>49809637
Yes. Exactly, lmao. Second and third, etc. order Greek exposures on options are all noise, no signal unless you're handling a giant book at an options desk as some vol arb fund /MM.

>>49809608
dollar milkshake

>>49809608

A shit storm of epic proportions. Probably a new depression.

I think the printer would come on with a vengeance well before DXY 150, especially if they have that much time to think about it. But it's a bold prediction I'll give him that.

The stock market is closed on Monday. Happy Juneteenth, guys.

>>49809681
But surely we can just print our way out of it, right?

>>49808525
>won't stop until supply side is fixed
>so let's raise rates to make it more difficult/costly to raise capital to fix supply lines
classic

>>49809681
or biden gets impeached/trump reinstated + allowed to run for third term (war president)

or the crash hits so hard they turn the printers back on and hyperinflation destroys the dollar once and for all (also the chinese yuan) (biden 2nd term)

or china invades taiwan and then tactical nukes before next spring

or catastrophic weather events taking out the western power grid this year (but operation popeye says no to this as it could be man made with military plans in mind)

yes im an absolute schizo. you should've seen how to the fucking tee i was with nke puts. covid was written on the wall and i made some sweet money off of it before it even leaked in china.

>>49809751
btw the lines intersect the hour american volume can start trading on nigteenth. should be fun. :3

>>49809751
should note 1st case results in major v shaped recover after a 90% crash ala 1929

2nd case results in total destruction of america + china

the other two are exclusive of either outcome of the first two cases

>>49809681
>dollar appreciates
>this causes a depression
Please explain

>>49809813
>should note 1st case results in major v shaped recover after a 90% crash ala 1929
>Tyrant takes over America, V shaped recovery. People actually believe this.

some point before summer ends i do expect a challenge to apple's duopoly with google (they are the ones left in fagman). since apple makes up the biggest holding for spy, the vol expansion from apple falling along with spy falling will cause premiums to shoot through the roof. a tactical nuke would be the worst of things since vol is always overstated. this is why i have my aapl puts.

>>49809860
the reason why the dollar is "appreciating" is because it's actually undergoing a short squeeze. debt will need to be paid and the interest rates on forward months for tbills and such will be more lucrative than current positions. as such this should create a massive demand for usd which will need to be taken from the equity markets to realize.

>>49809890
>franklin never ran for 3 terms during war

either way, trump is the real president at the moment. there is no way that the military is backing biden in earnest. he is more likely already indicted and forced to play a part in order for his family not to be killed.

absolute schizo

>>49809860
>dollar is appreciating
with respect to other currencies
USA having a bad time. Yurope and Japan having it worse

>>49809922
>there is no way that the military is backing biden in earnest
I can not fathom how it isn't abundantly clear that everyone pledged allegiance to their pension and nothing more.

>>49807011
What's his name?

>Rails damaged, 'large amount' of coal spilled in Douglas County train derailment
Haha food/energy accidents continue

>>49809990
buffet loves when rail accidents happen.

>>49809695

Depends whose printer has the most toner I guess.

>>49809751

Biden's not going anywhere. Maybe his handlers lose him, but they'll find him at the bus stop waiting for the train. Crash may come but they'll stop it at 50-ish% IMO. China won't invade Taiwan. It's a meme. Weather meh, it'll be fine. I'm more worried about humans.

No the main sources of uncertainty atm are what happens now that the Ukraine gambit has failed to splinter Russia or somehow topple their government as was clearly hoped. This leaves a giant gaping hole in the US "plan" for geopolitics. Russia was supposed to be severely weakened such that we could swoop in and use them against China. This has literally been the plan since the 90s, and the Ukraine war is the culmination.

Zbigniew's plan didn't work tho. Or maybe it would have and they just bungled it. Either way, it's going to prompt a re-think and new scheming, by people much dumber than he was, which is unpredictable, which is bad.

>>49809922
I just don’t understand why it’s so hard to believe that the apolitical 46% of America who didn’t vote in 2016 got scared through all the media to vote in 2020 against a President who lost the popular vote back when everyone was politically apathetic.

>>49809860
having a strong currency isnt always the best thing. if your country exports good and services, international currencies may be devalued in relation and their purchasing power is lower. its the reason why china manipulates its currency to be weak, so they can gain the competitive advantage as an exporter

>>49807048
>reparations get paid
>3 months later niggers waste all the money on crack and tennis shoes
>niggers, now penniless again, get back to blaming whitey for their shit culture and criminal tendencies
>Dems jump back on the bandwagon for votes
This is how it plays out

For me?
It's Seema Mody CNBC

>>49810032
Wrong, what’s most important is being the petrodollar world reserve currency. Yes it doesn’t really financially help your nation but petro dollar, 9/11, you fucking lying kike.

>>49810020
>the election was legit because of the unprecedented propaganda campaign launched by private corporations
It's funny that this is a legitimate argument. What a world

>>49810003
i think we've had other plans all along.

>>49810020
elections on the presidential level are not determined by the populace at large.

>>49810032
what if we become a currency exporter? investing in other countries since their currency is so cheap. i want to look in investing in japan some time soon.

>>49810093
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

>>49810032
A strong currency should be good in all cases, if you have a currency that is too strong to export with, then fuck, just take your money and buy a whole bunch of shit from other countries, sit home relax, maybe go to college and get a liberal arts major, start trading shit coins, what ever floats your boat.

>>49809897
Let me see if I get this right
>dollar is undergoing short squeeze
>pretty much everyone has taken some form of a short position because of the inflation narrative and all the money printed
>these people will be fucked as they can’t pay back what they’ve borrowed
>multinational companies will see profits destroyed as global customers are priced out
>complete meltdown at realization that inflation wasn’t correct bet and we are actually heading straight for deflation

What are some crypto related plays now that crypto is crashing
Short OIN as they are one of the biggest crypto exchanges
Short MARA, RIOT with BTC mining becoming more expensive
Short NVDA with the influx of GPUs on the market from miners it will lower prices and they will sell GPUs
Short TSLA they hold a significant amount of BTC with an average price of 33k, this will reflect on their Q1 earnings

>>49810234
This is the important question

>>49810208
pretty much. do you remember the deflationary snap during trumps term? that was the biggest signal that we are going into an inflationary period. threaten hyperinflation enough at the right time and then do the ol razzle dazzle on them once the debnts have been paid.

maybe the deagle prediction was right. america simply can't keep going on as it is. if we dont fight china directly during this conflict, we will fight them directly within the next 3 decades.

>>49810234
btc 3k is my target price

also crypto bros have been a factor in increasing money supply. crypto millionaires will be a thing of the past. (also the price of btc determines the supply of btc, oddly enough)

>>49810323
should mention that the higher price btc is the higher supply of btc there is ( or at least available supply that can contribute to velocity)

>>49810208
I honestly don't give a shit if the dollar deflates if my stocks go up. Besides, I'm Canadian and all my holdings are in USD. I see nothing but upside. Maybe I'll even be able to afford a down payment on a house if the USD deflates hard enough.

>>49810280
Something has to be done about rising prices though, even if things get a bit deflationary.

>>49810408
the rising prices are depleting money supply which is strengthening the dollar. may seem weird since there's an increase in velocity which is causing price discovery to happen much quicker than usual. tho this is only due to the massive amount of cash that's been given out in form of stimmies.

>>49809897
The dollar is appreciating because it's the world's reserve currency. Whenever there's periods of uncertainty people in other countries put all their money into dollars because it tends to be more stable.

>>49810462
>the rising prices are depleting money supply
how?

Is it true that the bond market sets the interest rate not the central banks?

>>49810513
read the end of the post you quoted and realize those stimmies are no longer a thing

>>49810513
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PSAVERT

covid created a money bomb, so to speak

>>49810595
>>49810575
that doesnt make sense, stimmy gibs being spent on rising prices of real thing isnt taking money out of circulation in the same way that hedge funds selling assets like equities that they bought with margin does
like if citadel took out a huge loan to buy some stocks, then sold all those stocks to cover that loan, that money is "gone" because citadel isnt going to be able to take out as large a loan as before since rates have gone up
but if joe schmo goes and buys groceries from walmart, that money he spent that he received from stimmies isnt gone, its now revenue on walmarts balance sheet

>>49809127
unemployment doesn't need to go up much to cause panic, anon. .1% or .2% induced by the lag of people not immediately finding a new job is enough to cause further carnage and destroy the trust that the market has into the "strong labour market".

36 y.o. no savings, no retirement, and $19k debt....

>>49810726
have you ever considered killing people for money?

>>49810688
the money created from a loan is the interest paid and in your case any potential gains made. but when joe schmoe buys a banana with his stimmy money, that's one less banana that can be bought for real.

also look, weird how jan 2023 is mentioned in the article

>>>/pol/382938064

>>49810741
no but im thinkin of selling one of my kidneys

The vast majority of funds ass-pulled and distributed due to covid were not in the form of economic stimulus payments. In fact the amount of money that wasn't earmarked for corporate and government use and instead went to actual people is about 2% of the total. Peddling the "stimmies cause inflation" bullshit means someone is a shill, every time, and if they're not literally being paid to do so then they've just been psyopped into thinking and spreading that bullshit. QE caused inflation, covid made sure it would be terrible, and the bubble is in the process of popping.

Don't worry bank and companies can buy the middle class

>>49810803
covid slowed money velocity to slow down. the lifting of lockdowns created a money bomb. qe also lead to inflation as well, as increased boomer porftolios meant they could leverage more. you do have to understand there is a physical economy out there that does move the derivative markets.

>>49811018
>bros money we don't give to the proles doesn't count as adding money to the total supply of money because proles aren't spending it so we should print dozens of trillions for years on end month after month since it's totes okay
Aspirate semen and contract pneumonia. Making more money = inflation. This is a hard indisputable fact, no amount of (((creative explanations))) makes it untrue, meme flu was impetus to print meme stacks of meme money, and short of something wildly terrible or fantastic happening to a company it doesn't matter nearly as much for the actions of derivatives as however whatever cuckold market maker/infinite liquidity provider decided the price should trend in for a given timeframe. I am nearly certain you are either paid to be here or have just sucked down so much of the koolaid your financial death is practically guaranteed from the rat poison of ideas about money that have contaminated your brain. Sad, too many such cases.

>>49811159
most of the money that the fed created did not even show up in money supply. it "printed" much more than the bump in M2. if you look at the "printing" 2008-2020, you see a similar effect.
so yeah, obviously the entire economic stimulus package caused inflation, but not every anti-deflationary measure by the fed does, and we have historic evidence of this fact.

>>49811262
Don't care, it's still fake and gay dollars felched out of the feds gaping anus whether or not it actually hits peoples hands and doesn't instead just get thrown into mostly degenerate speculative shit or parked in reverse repos to make 1.55% overnight every night until it can no longer or is no longer advantageous to continue doing so. Everything is fake and gay in finance and the markets anymore, period, which is why it is crashing and will continue to do so. Because only an actual chimp or retard wouldn't be shorting right now.

>>49811337
i'm a fellow bear but you should really try to understand what it exactly is that the fed does so you don't get rekt. "finance is fake and gay so it must collapse" is not a solid bear thesis.

>>49811337
>Because only an actual chimp or retard wouldn't be shorting right now.
maybe the bulls are right

>>49811375
Sir I got 1337 digits, your opinion is invalid and mine is objectively correct based on that fact alone notwithstanding the other fact that all of finance is fake and gay and because it is fake and gay will be shorted and manipulated until it actually collapses because that would make a ton of money. Bear markets are just bull markets in the opposite direction, everyone still wants profits, everyone has been heemed, and shorting volumes are the highest they have ever been with the 2nd largest shorting volume day OF ALL TIME occurring last week. I am not a bobo or a mumu, I am right.

In this moment I am euphoric. To know that most of the obnoxious shills have lost their money.
The BHS pajeets
The DKNG and CCL zoomer
The SOXL troon
The AQB retards
I am euphoric.

So can we admit that this ONE time bobo got to cum?
I can already visualize all the fucking mumu posters in eternal september.

>>49808836
Really wondering what Nikkei and Dax are going to do without US pressure.
Last US banking holiday they were a lot calmer

What's your plan for a 5 year plus recession? How do you plan to weather the storm and twist it to your advantage assuming we come out of this recession.

> My job is stable and I shouldn't be laid off in the event of job cuts. I earn enough that my plan is just to DCA into SPY and etfs as well as blue chips when we reach decent valuations in stocks. In the meantime I want to focus on buying commodities, particularly gold and silver now.

>>49812223
honestly hate the influence, I wish the markets were more diverged.

Monday viewing:

FTSE100
DAX
Nikkei
CSI 300

I can't figure out defense companies. Who will be the gold medal winner in that space? The future Stark Industries or SKYNET.

Why does he support it? Is it just because the dog is cute?

I want to buy J&J, Bristol Myers and AstraZeneca stocks but they keep going up. When are they gonna crash ffs...

>>49812520
Because it's his PnD

>>49812577
Post-nut depression? After boner blues?

>>49812555
Why not buy a healthcare or pharma ETF at that point?

>>49812625
Pump n dump

If we don't see a full solid green week next week. I will be proven right.

CRYPTO BOTTOMED
WE'RE SAVED SOXL SISTERS

>>49812275
Modest contango gains from VIX futures shorting. Yeah the contango is weak but it's still better than longing SPY while being sort of bullish.

>>49812295
It's globalisation baby.
No use bitching about it, even with the negative effects of US Investors being way more volatile

>>49810234
MSTR is probably going to get margin called if this keeps up

Well looked at my 401k. Not good, which I expected, down uh round 10,000. But on the flip side compared to when I started it at nothing it's still nice and fat so... The other thing is I'm fixing to hike my contribution amount a lot come July so I'll be buying more "shares" cheap as hell so the fatter the gains once the reversal kicks off.

>>49812740
>1 post by this ID
what was your prophecy, O wise one?

I'm buying all the way to the bottom
Possible the S&P500 dips another 20%, possible it falls even more, possible that we have the worst behind us.
All I know is that there are some pretty cheap stocks out there.

>>49813289
I'm just a buck broken mumu that is being realistic and putting two and two together. Everything rides on what happens next week. If we dont get a solid turnaround then, it's pretty much set in stone where we are headed.

>>49812740
I think it's implied by the image that we're on course for a repeat of 2000 and 2008. Solid green this week would seem to invalidate that prediction.

>>49813321
spotgamma did mention that after the massive opex this friday dealers would have to buy back to cover their hedges so there's some hopium for you

Did we switch timelines again?
I don't recall this Juneteenth existing, but everyone is acting like it always was a normal bank holiday.

>>49813529
It only became official this year. A year or two ago it was severely pushed all over facebook and I assume twitter and so the mudbloods probably ate that shit up as usual.

I'm starting to doubt that tuesday will be red

>>49813529
No it's an old thing but didn't use to be celebrate. Since it's old they're acting like it was always a thing but it wasn't.

>Juneteenth will coincide with Father's Day in 2022
lmao, so nigs can have their day while everybody else celebrates Father's Day

When is the exit dead cat bounce

>>49813393
meltup chads, is this our moment?

>>49813637
Crypto always pumps on holidays. Rest assured, everything will be red except for GME

Happy Juneteenth /smg

I STARTED INVESTING IN JUNE 2021 AND IT LOOKS LIKE ILL ONLY BE IN THE GREEN BY DECEMBER 2024 AHHHHHHHHHH

>>49807111
>Intermittent fasting keeps me young

>not using plasma dilution therapy

I hope all my frens have a great day except TA nonfrens. I hope you choke on your own vomit.

>>49807424
Dude just slurp at the bottom and hold until election

>>49807424

how?

>>49814229
*nominally green, you won't have beat the 8% daily inflation.

>>49807111
Fasting is pretty good. People with insulin resistance might even reverse their conditions on it and testing on animals lengthened their lifes. More people should look into it.

>>49814444
>adjusting for inflation when everyone gets fired and we have a deflationary recession

>>49814519
natty gas to 100$/l this winter in europe.

>>49814459
My issue with fasting is a problem of schedule
>Drink coffee in the morning
>Don't pee/poo all day
>Get home from work at 3
>start cooking
>Be eating by 4/4:30
>Have one beer with it
>food coma, and my ass is in bed
granted I usually am eating a whole lb of meat so thats probably to blame.

>>49812275
Pretty much the same plan. Although going with VOO since the yearly cost is far less then SPY.

How do I profit from the energy crisis?

Uranium won't really take off until 2-3 years won't it

>>49814229
the fuck is that bro

>>49814701
I donno. I wouldn't chase oil, the time to buy that was in April 2020. Uranium is just a pump and dump as far as I can tell, there are literally no good companies.

>he missed his chance to buy in cheap on Friday
Bitcoin and will pump above 20k, stocks will gap up. Enjoy chasing.

>>49814795
Nauh Bitcoin will reject 20k soon and send it back down just in perfect time for the market to open blood red Tuesday

https://www.4chan-x.net/ If you want to make these threads readable. Here is a copy of my filters:
https://pastebin.com/30ehHvde

image md5 filter:
https://pastebin.com/fAjevYnP
Mostly furry porn and tik toks.

Why are they like this? You can’t isolate because of your mental health?

Happy June teenth everyone.

>>49814795
I told everyone I bought in and the tranny jannie was so mad he gave me a warning.

>>49815122
fuck off

>>49807424

Goes to show you that age doesn't cure stupidity.

>>49807111
Checked

Thanks you fucking goyim, I swear to G-d.

What're good stock index ETFs to invest in?
I'll find an S&P 500 one... any others?

>>49815369
>>49815184

>>49808631
>the fed will do all they can to stop inflation, even though they know they really can't
>>in an election year
Yes, do Yahoo not understand inflation?

Is there a -1x semi conductor etf?
Considering a 50% short soxx 50% long qqq trade
levered short semi would be retarded with the daily compounding

>>49814739
Doing some scenario checking on excel

Oh um hmmm huh oh

How to profit the most from the rebound?
Writing puts, buying calls, or buying some leveraged product?

>>49815369
You actually thought all the blm sjw trans gay whypipo bad campaign was going to make you rich? You just killed the working class of tax paying goyim kek

>>49815462
you wait and sell the rally

>>49815437
Does this mean that the debt is being payed off?

>>49808629
>>49807068
thats because TA on the VIX is, in fact, dumb.

>>49814229
>move in with mommy
kek

Show me a more clear cut, surefire, low risk/high reward short opportunity

>>49807424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFyP0qy9XU

>>49815512
No, it means there’s ample growth in tax receipts to pay for the higher rate debt being rolled by the government.

>>49815437
Why was tax revenue flat between 2015 and 2020?

>>49807048

The best reparations would be sending them back to africa desu

>>498156

More rate hikes it it then...


Also does any one know the interest rate range where the government can't issue more debt?

>>49815798
Hmm yes why indeed, what happened between 4Q 2015 and 1Q 2020...

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/19/why-lgbtq-homebuyers-say-rising-mortgage-rates-are-hitting-them-hard.html

nooo not the heckin trannies

OPEN THE FUCKING STOCK MARKET YOU DUMB BOOMERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>49815876

They really do need to end this whole closing of the stock market nonsense. It's a dated concept and we have crypto to prove that you can still have stocks run even during weekends and holidays. We would have been past this bear market already and the bandaid torn off. Instead we have this crabby slow bleed that is doing more harm than good.

>>49807744
I'm partial to Nigmas

>>49815876
Why you want the market open, so you can not make money on weekends too?
Lol you suck pal

>>49815929
Happy Hahnigga.

>>49815929
Nigma balls

>>49815966
Happy Kwanza

>>49815919
if they don't close the start market then they can't jew it in AH anymore

>>49815966
>Happy Hahnigga.
holy shit lost hard also checked also stealing this

>>49816064
Just get rid of ah and the kikery stops
I don’t want to be monitoring my poorfolio literally 24/7 and I’m sure a lot of anons would agree seeing as how a lot here are as autistic and obsessive as can be

WTFWT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>futures

>>49814444
checked

>>49813321
I think we do get a rally soon, but it should be faded

Meme lines aside. We may be green Tuesday and possibly crab for a week. My barber told me this based on a thumbnail he saw on youtube.

>>49807057
What happen?

>>49816038
not sure whats flagging spam

>>49816250
Is this gallifreyan?

>>49807057
gotta start punching that niggas arm, fucking beta pajeets. he deserves to have his leg ripped off.

>>49816360
Old High Gallifreyan. It's the only way to speculate.

>>49815369
wow that's like 6000 Holocaust!

What is smg's take on uranium? The constraints on supply sound interesting.

>>49816486
I avoid anything getting spammed here or on the trannyfaggot website.

>>49810093
you're incredibly naive

Happy Father's day /smg/

>>49816486
The stock prices got ahead of themselves most of them are topping out with H&S patterns.
Energy peaked wouldn't be looking for buys right now.

>>49807011
Give me your best thesis on why the market could reverse and suddenly go GREEN this year.

Is there any reason at all that the market pumps?

>>49816543
you’re a huge faggot

Tuesday is the summer solstice.

>>49815516
That's retarded. Derivatives have volatility baked into the price and it is vastly larger than the broader market. You're telling me that a variable that is used to price an enormous amount of money is not worth doing TA on? Get the fuck outta town.

>>49816581
I think we might get a pump if the war ends? But otherwise the macro news is all bad, personally I think something somewhere is going to blow up under all this strain and it will take the global markets with it.

>>49816642
How long until we recover?

>>49816625
Forecast is 96 and sunny here, sunrise at 6:03 am and sunset at 9:04 pm.

>>49816581
>Give me your best thesis on why the market could reverse and suddenly go GREEN this year.
Only 19% of people are bulls.

Japan is collapsing it's over

>>49816649
probably however long it takes for the central banks to panic and turn on QE and lower rates again

>>49808713
kek

>Julius Fucik - Entry of the Gladiators continues to play
I'm just visiting this board to watch the tragedy unfold. I'm curious how many of you keep cash or liquid savings for a rainy day?

>>49816581
Supply chain issues get sorted as we get further away from Covid
Ceasefire in Ukraine, or European countries dial down the sanctions because of the financial/inflatory stress they're under
Supply side inflation abates, causing the fed to pause their right hikes

FWIW we had essentially 0 funds rate throughout the 10s and we barely kept inflation above 1%, so the structural issues causing that still persist

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61855301

>Apple store workers vote to form first US union

interesting

>>49811262
Stimulus comes from existing money supply. You don’t know what you’re talking about lmao

>>49816723
hoe funny would it be if Apple then closes the store

>>49816574
Uranium's supply is supposedly restricted and they don't have enough to run our existing reactors effectively. Do you think that is topped out?

>>49816581
markets are tanked hard now until late August, then magically Pedo Joe LITERALLY SAVES THE ENTIRE ECONOMY!!!!! with a pre-election stimulus. And of course, the Dem's economic platform this election cycle will be "if you elect us again, we'll give you more free money!"

>>49816736
Yes the whole energy sector topped out.

>>49807111
Fasting is good. Intermittent fasting is nothing more than placebo actually, and trust me, I used to IF a lot. Unless your IF actually helps you maintain a healthy body fat, than that's good - but there is nothing inherently healthy that occurs in your body while intermittently fasting.

>>49816734
would be glorious. so many juneteenthers would be out of a job!

>>49816729
No they printed it you fucking retard. They're allowed to print because of the issuance of debt. God damn go read a book.

>>49816785
>What is adenosine monophosphate-activated protein kinase.

>>49816785
from my limited understanding IF is supposed to be good but basically real fasting is supposed to be great for ketones and autophaghy

>>49816723
bold strategy

Happy father's day /smg/. Also Good Morning. Sunday Morning.

>>49816785
All fasting is intermittent fasting or else you'd die. If I do rolling 1-weeks or rolling 2-3 days I still call that intermittent fasting. The one that really grinds my gears is people who do 16:8 and think that's an accomplishment (that's just a normal day holy shit can you go 1 hour without a snack you fat fucks).

>>49807424
Give yourself a week. Wait a bit and see if you've changed your mind. Possessions and wealth come and go. Bitches as well.

>>49816723
>apple employees
>not entitled little shits
Oh yeah this will end well.

What cheapies has /smg/ been buying, or is looking to buy?

>>49816729
no YOU don't know what you're talking about. QE means fed take treasuries and in exchange treasury holders get bank reserves. In the case of covid QE, the US treasury issued debt, debt gets bought and the fed exchanges the debt for reserves i.e. creating money out of nothing since US debt amount doesn't matter
https://fedguy.com/quantitative-easing-step-by-step/

>>49816831
There was no debt issued for the Covid stimulus, retard

>>49816892
Yeah REAL fasting is good, anything beyond 24 hours. But inside or 24 hours is just a meme, you would get better results taking anywhere from 0.1 to 0.5 IU of generic Chinese HGH.

>>49807424
New plan
>buy a boat
>call you wife a fat cunt and sail away to the Bahamas

>>49816885
>What is Norditropin/

>>49817052
/IGF1 LR3

>>49817052
>>49817025
>generic Chinese HGH
>Norditropin
What does it do in adults?

>>49810803
>"stimmies cause inflation" bullshit
>he doesn't know about the loans

I need to make it back /biz/. I need to make it back. Open up the markets. Let. Me. TRADEEEEEE

>>49816962
>1-weeks or rolling 2-3 days

You retard nigger just because you try to play semantic games doesn't change the different metabolic processes that happens as you fast for longer

>>49816581
Desantis and trump assassinate the joint chiefs of staff, install retired based generals, military arrests all current executive, legislative, and judicial branch government employees and elected officials, puts them through military tribunal on their loyalties and finances, special elections are held and a new era of repealing taxes, gold standard monetary policy, and deregulation.

That's probably about the only chance of green this year. So like .00000000001% chance.

So which stocks should I buy to profit from the dip? Stock up on AMZN, AMD and AAPL?

Bear signal

>>49817015
Hahaha, kid you’re fucking dumb. All government spending issues debt, they don’t get to print for free.

>>49816994
soxl and some crypto.

I can't see anything else out performing spy once it starts to recover though

>>49816962
I agree. Anybody who thinks they are getting some kind of good "natural chemical reaction" from 16/8 are much, much better off taking 1 IU of pharma grade HGH a day. The real fasting benefits start at 24 hours, 24 to 96. But there's no point in doing that consistently unless you have a disease or are morbidly obese.

>>49817025
nah need 3 days at minimum for it to do anything

>Just realized high interest rates will make leveraged index funds shit
How the fuck am I supposed to get rich once we hit bottom then?

The fed is trying to kill the housing market

>>49817156
Try selling your arse.

>>49816729
>>49817015
you're wrong. the whole reason why QE infinity was implemented in the first place is because the government needed to finance the economy rescue package but the bond markets were illiquid and nobody wanted to buy the debt, so the fed bought it. this is helicopter money in the very sense of the word.

>>49817077
Well Chinese HGH will burn fat, and preserve muscle on a cut, but pharma grade is much better, and will increase IGF1 levels, which in turn will increase lean mass. Not to mention overall well being like libido and better functioning brain.
IGF1 LR3 will build lean muscle, but you shouldn't use it for too long, or use too high of a dose, since it will grow other organs as well. 50 mcg for 20-40 days is sufficient, with a 40 day break in between.

>>49817156
Just buy VOO.

>>49810803
This is true, but also the corporate stimulus is stimmies too. Businesses got FREE loans if they could prove at least 50-75% of the loan would be used for wages. PPP was like trillions of dollars, on top of illegal SVP facilities from the fed buying corporate bonds. QE did not cause inflation in 2008, it did not cause inflation now, for the simple reason that there was no GROWTH due to QE, it simple staves off banks having to write down their treasury portfolio so they can pay debts. QE does not produce any growth whatsoever, and that’s the real issue.

>>49817143
I think at 24 hours autophagy starts, as well as HGH serum levels increase(not that significantly though). I might be wrong about this. Again I think inside of 24 hours anybody will be better off using pharma HGH at a maintenance dose.

>>49817217
what are the negative side affects of hgh

>>49817156
LEAPS

>>49817284
pretty sure it's 3 days

>>49810748
Someone should tell El Salvador that there is diamond titanium adamantium support at 18K and they should be buying the dip.

>>49817197
Inshallah I hope they succeed.

>>49817117
I hope Bitcoin does hit 2k. I’m literally not buying until we’re below Covid lows, and I genuinely hope bulls start jumping. Looks like there was already one suicide in this thread, I’m not fucking stopping selling until a good 30% of this board has killed themselves.

>>49817298
How to use LEAPS like that??

>>49817242
>has both human and cat ears
Just imagine the incredible quality of her hearing.

>>49817288
Negatives are if you use too high of a dose over a long period of time, like bodybuilders. Hand tingling, numb hands, organ enlargement. I forgot 1 additional benefit of HGH, and that's healing ligaments and broken bones. I used it to heal a broken wrist that had 10 different shatters, and I could take the cast off after 4 weeks. I did use TB500 and BPC 157 in conjunction though.

>>49817334
You just buy options really far out and hope that the index goes up faster than time/volatility decay and get leveraged returns on the index.

>>49817331
>I hope Bitcoin does hit 2k. I’m literally not buying until we’re below Covid lows,
Investing based on hope top kek.
You might end up the one killing themselves.

W&L

>>49817361
How do I pick a strike price and exp date that approximates 3x leverage? Is it just a matter of picking a delta of 33.3 or what?

>>49817451
the best part is this is all from ONE rate hike
we have many more to come
the obama biden years of 0% interest fucked us

>>49817421
I’ve done my own research. If the fed attempts to kick the can down the road again they will get fucked, if they pivot I will dutifully await the imminent collapse of the Eurodollar.
You are greedy insolent people who don’t care who gets hurt in your search for “tendies and chill” and I WILL buy your assets off you at liquidation.

>>49817202
Would you recommend this site?
https://www.mikesdonkeys.co.uk/donkeys-for-sale

>>49817458
Idk I'd just buy ATM or slightly OTM LEAPS on a red week and hope they go up. If you want to calculate exact leverage there's Lambda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_(finance)#Lambda

>>49817502
I said arse, not ass. Stupid illiterate nigger.

>>49817242
>VOO
>not VT
The US can't keep outperforming the rest of the world forever.

>>49817540
And keep in mind liquidity has a cost. If you do this on VTI the spreads are fucking awful and could eat up all your profit.

>>49815122
Anyone see the irony in Juneteenth falling on the same date as Father’s Day this year? Even the calendar is trolling POC.

>>49817540
>>49817577
You mean illiquidity has a cost? I thought more liquidity = smaller bid/ask spreads

>>49807011
Sell soxl

I wonder how 30$ spy gambler is doing

>>49817633
Yes that's what I meant.

>>49817543
What the fuck is an arse? Speak real English

All the profits I make on Monday will be donated to the jogger reparations fund. Who’s with me? Happy Juneteenth /smg/

I'm not baking btw.

>>49817421
wake me when BTC is cheaper then 1oz of gold

>>49817774

>>49817769
>tweet that some hedge fund has announce they will allocate all profits made on monday to juneteenth causes
>watch as juneteenthers realize the market is closed on monday
>???
>profit

>>49807424
A real man would just move to Belize and live out their days colonizing the natives and drinking Beliken. Come home white man. What did (((captcha))) mean by this?

>>49814310
rude

>>49818396
>>49818396
>>49818396