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>>49803013
Most of my constitutional. finally passed 100 oz in just constitutional.

110 oz Ag/ 1/2 Oz Au

blingmotherfuckingbling ma nigga! fr fr
gold is king. no caps

bros how many oz of silver and gold do I need to be on the financial ark

>>49803013
>>News
>https://kitco.com/

meanwhile, the fed is propping up the debt market with funny money

Reminder that post-war Vrenelis most likely have jew gold in them

>>49803432
more than zero

Obligatory US Constitutional Guide

Silver: bit dot ly/33ryJBb
Gold: bit dot ly/327ob9T

Captcha: RWAWR

I HATE WOMEN
I HATE FAT PEOPLE
I HATE JEWS
I HATE NIGGGERRRS

>>49803542
Beautiful collection Anon.

>>49803105
Wear your wealth...

>>49803595
likewise fren. time to take advantage of the weekend and pull things out of the closet

>>49803693
That was my initial plan. Sadly heavy rains in the area and lack of time has left me maintaining my property, I have about 1 acre of weeds to pull out and I've gotten maybe 1/4 of it done. That is a beautiful range is it private or do you setup on public land?

For anybody that missed the frensmark saga

>Retard latches onto a long running joke idea
>Anons show interest but want a hat
>Retard makes a poll for a hat or no hat
>Hat wins in a blow out
>Retard gets more and more spastic as people show him attention
>ACKCHYUALLY executive decision no hat
>Retard gets salty at the negative reactions and starts samefagging
>ACKCHYUALLY I don't need your money I can get this made myself
>ACKCHYUALLY you can paypal this account I just made
>ACKCHYUALLY here's the indiegogo campaign for the money I don't need but still want
>Anons realize he's a retard and don't buy

keep on stackin, my friends

><<>>< WHY SILVER? ><<>><

>Historically Undervalued
Gold and silver exist in the Earth at about a 1:16 ratio, and this is the ratio they traded at for all of history. However, today these metals are extracted at a ratio of 1:8, but their price ratio has been as high as 1:80! This indicates that, historically speaking, silver is extremely undervalued relative to gold.

>Industrial Need
Silver is used in thousands of technological, industrial, and even medical applications. In fact, it is the second most patented material in the world, just after crude oil.

>Supply and Demand
As silver is used industrially, it is transformed into a form that is not economically feasible to recycle. Because of this, we say it is consumed, and that the supply of silver is continually drained. Not only that, but the world's silver mining output has slowed in recent years. Most silver is mined as a byproduct of base metals, and as demand for base metals decreases, the new supply of silver is also reduced. For these reasons, silver is considered an "endangered element," just like helium.

>Market Manipulation
JP Morgan was once forced to pay a $1,000,000,000 fine after being caught rigging the silver market. They continue to do so, but having friends in low places protects them from being truly held to account. As explained above, silver and gold are coupled in a price ratio, though this ratio is somewhat elastic. The goal of market manipulation is to suppress the price of gold as a means to suppress reported figures for inflation, but the gold market is slow and heavy. Silver is much easier to manipulate, and is therefore suppressed directly in order to drag gold down with it. By suppressing reported figures of inflation, the Treasury is enabled to borrow money at lower interest rates, buying more time before the government is forced to default on its debt or resort to hyperinflating the currency.

All this means that silver has greater potential for gains than gold.

Hey /pmg/, check out this copper penny I found sorting through a change jar. The obverse is misstruck! And yes I realize it's a die error, not a planchet error. I put the penny in a new flip. This is the first ever error coin I've found in the "wild", as far as I know.

>>49777777
Glorious.

>>49803918
its a public range i used to go to, SLOSA, the san luis obispo sportsman's association. sadly its 1800 miles away now. thats badass you have property even with that kinda work ahead of you. i want to find a small plot, maybe 10 acres but its gonna set me back at least 50k here in farm country. even open pasture land is +3K/acre

>>49804149
But check this out: The reverse is totally fine! So it's not a case of the planchet being a dud or misplaced. The actual die itself was misaligned! Seems pretty big on the "oops" scale. Only thing is I haven't found any documentation of this striking error of a bad obverse on a 1974 Philedelphia penny. Any more knowledgeable anons have anything to say about it? Not really looking for cash unless it's worth $100+, I'm just curious about a cool error I found.

Also did this anon ever make a new collab? He showed up a couple of weeks ago and said something along the lines of "Hey I'm making anew collab post stacks" and since then it's been radio silence, unless he delivered in a thread I missed. I love these collages.

>>49804057
Gold is more likely to be remonetized than silver, hence greater potential gain than silver.

>>49803678
Become Wealth

>>49804464
already addressed last time you posted this
>>49789551

>>49804464
historically silver has been more monetized. see the crime of '73

>>49804486
>>49804464
(reposting for this thread because why not)
Okay, let's examine that scenario. If you take every Dollar in existence and divide it by all the above ground gold, you get a Dollar To Gold Ratio of $14,070 per ounce of gold. If the gold to silver ratio then corrects to its historical value of 1:16, which is what has happened every time in history there's been a monetary crisis, then the projected price of silver would be $879.
If you take these projected values and divide them by gold and silver's current prices of $1849.90 and $21.93, then gold's price will have risen by 760% and silver's price will have risen by 4,002%.
In short, silver has over five times more upside than gold in this scenario.
>But the ratio won't snap back like that!
Then it would be the first time in history. If you really want to bet on that, then I think I have far better chances than you do.

See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBGNC_LOCMU

>>49803013

Oh cool, I made it in! Lmao

>>49804149
>>49804230
neat, thanks for sharing anon

I'm looking for a good deal on smaller chunks of pretty silver. I'm thinking about Scottsdale 5oz Buttons for $139 each on ebay...

The cheapest deal I can find is $26 for 1oz sunshine rounds. That will be $30/oz after tax. But I dont want generic sunshine rounds.

I wish I could get heaps of 2oz white horses of hanover at the same sale price when I was hardcore stacking over a year ago darn it
I need to make my purchase in honor of 777777
Any deals anon has been scouting out?

>>49804031

Nice bar!

>>49804296
Hey I'm in that one twice!

>>49804149
>>49804230
The die is not misaligned enough for it to be worth anything beyond the Copper Value. You need something like 10% misalignment for there to be any value in it.

had a bad day frens, lets pray for a Bog update tonight

>>49803936
I'm still in for 1. If anon delivers I'll have one of the rarest 4chan silver pieces, besides those frog statuettes

>>49804826
Bet you're real fun at parties.

>>49804872

>>49804929
as a matter a fact i do.

>>49804974
What the hell is that?

>>49804872
Just keep watching the BTC chart for good spirits lad.

I’m in the screen cap xD I’ve been trying to diversify into miners so much lately that I’ve neglected my physical and feel kind of dirty doing so. That 777777 get unironically inspired me to correct that mistake. Never get a chance to make it to the LCS because of the wage cage, so JM is going to have to do.

>>49804932
Imagine if I didn't burst his bubble
>Anon walks into a coin shop
>"You're gonna flip when you see this Mr. Dealer"
>Pulls out locked briefcase
>Opens Briefcase
>Pulls out single envelope
>Opens Envelope
>Pulls out flip reading "Ultra Rare MS70 Misaligned Die Obverse Error 1974 No Mint Mark Red Copper Cent"
>"I bet you haven't seen anything like this before"
>Dealer stands there in utter silence
>"So how much will it cost to send this bad boy off for grading"
>Dealer bursts into laughter
>"Why are you laughing? This is the rarest penny ever, can't you read the flip?"
>Dealer stops laughing, realizes anon is serious and kicks him out of his shop while laughing even harder

>>49805025
Zombie Murk. Murk Diem
part of the currency of the apocalypse series

>>49803105
>literally looks like a fucking chimpanzee

>>49805144
Never heard of it before. Looks cool.

how old are you guys? im 23

>>49805391
>datamining

>>49805391
I was 15 when I banged your mom 23 years ago.

>>49805628
The only acceptable answer. Fuck off glowies.

>>49803582
A true racists stack.

>>49805391
40.
Too young to give up.without a fight, too old to go to prison, so I'll just fight to the death.

>>49803582
Manifest Destiny 2.0 when?!

Take the cigar box pill before it is too late anon

>>49805687
cope im just curios

>>49805791
i got a nice box

>>49805835
54 son. Made it twice, and lost it all once.
Now I'm not looking for gains anymore just for peace or mind.

>>49805841
I like it. What is it? It's smth Goth like the black sun right?

>>49803582
Nice pic

>>49806063
Helm of awe. A symbol of protection. I have one on my climbing helmet for tree work. Still alive. Seems it works. Anons stash is safe from harm.

>>49803936
Missed the spaz out
No hat no buy

>>49806063
see >>49806175

you kno, just in case

>>49806175
Kewl.
>>49806282
kys.

>>49804222
I have less than 5 acres I'd love 10+ but I am not ready to move. Good on you for getting out of Cali though.

>>49803491

good, hopefully from their tooth fillings.

>>49803678
jewelry is the most fun type of wearable wealth. The guy I got the watch in pic related from also has a flooded out diamond ring (twelve 0.25ct diamonds but the guy wants multiples of spot and being a cheapskate I have a hard time pulling the trigger, even knowing the ring would cost me 5-6x more new online

>>49805322
Series sold by Provident in 2014/2015, when zombies were 'in.'

I put all of my grandpappys constitutional silver in Chinese PVC sleeves from amazon.
Give it to me straight /pmg/, how bad did I fuck up? Are the coins fucked from just coming in contact with it?

>>49806565
isn't constitutional silver scrap silver?

>>49805722
Just as long as you ignore the two guys on there who fought against the south and also the Indians lol
>>49806090
Same to you. Based meme
>>49805786
RIGHT NOW MOTHER FUCKERRR YEEEHHHHHAAAAWWW
>>49806565
His ghost is gonna haunt you for this one

>>49806565
Just buy a bunch of non-pvc flips or coin tubes somewhere and fix it. How long were they in there?
If it's been just a few days or weeks or something like that you're fine.

>>49806330
i miss the central coast like a mf'er, really a beautiful state. some of the coolest old timers and literal boomers there but they got outnumbered like 30 years ago. at least most the counties around the midwest are ran by people who arent crazy. called our electric company to ask about my bill and then on a whim about any rationing of disruptions that might happen this summer. "Uummmmm, no... i havent heard anything. We recommend setting your house at 74 but thats it" meanwhile frogs are literally gonna boil in france

>>49805128
I'm not that dumb, I know the dealer gets stupid garbage shown to him all the time. I've even walked in on some of those "crazy" finds when I wanted to buy stuff. Just wanted to ask the only coin/pm forum I visit on how this happened. Great greentext though, 10/10 earned pic related

at last PMG revenge will be ours against the Crypto cucks. I have waited long for this moment.

>>49804296
If your reading this add my silver templar coin to the pic.

>>49806565
If you have a sample page, burn a small piece of it. If it burns green it has chlorine and your coins have herpes. Isolate and clean.
>be glad they aren't ancient Roman coins

>>49806466
Hey! It's the dude rocking the women's watch. What a fag.

>>49807172
who cares. I enjoy it and nobody has said they think its a woman's watch. It fits my wrist size perfectly. When I get bored of it I'll put it on chrono24 and triple my money.

>>49806706
Lincoln and Grant heavily respected their Southern opponents. This is part of the reason the Confederate Army got off so easily in 1865. Grant essentially told Lee at Appomattox, that Northerns and Southerns were all brothers. And the indians is more so for the irony of it than anything else.

>>49807217
>woman's watch
>It fits my wrist size perfectly

>>49807045
I can't help but feel a little bad for some of them. For a few good honest traders crypto was the most reasonable way out of this clown-world financial system that tries harder and harder to deny upward mobility.
That being said, OTHERS that;
>constantly tried to shill new scam shitcoins
>flooded every possible discussion with "but what about bitcoin"
>insisted it was the future of finance and that PM holdings were stupid
>bought up every possible graphics card and nearly killed PC gaming for good
>kept hacking Youtube accounts and replacing them with crypto streams
>believed clicking buy and sell with good timing made them the sole benefactors of wisdom
>didn't understand the meaning of diversify funds and spend every bit of money they had including rent and mortgage payments on crypto
can all get fucked.
>>49807113
I didn't make those collages bro, I was just asking what happened with them. Nice pic though, is that little copper coin a relic or restrike?

>>49805786
Expanding into mexico now.

>>49807253
7 inch wrists muthafucka.

The time of crypto is over the time of metals has begun

>>49806466
Are you one of those people who wear backpacks to look younger? Cringe

>>49807217
>nobody has said they think its a woman's watch
Because in current society it's considered rude to call out trannies anon.

>>49807314
nah, I wear it to carry my laptop and e-reader. Tumi backpacks are acceptable for adults.

>>49807331
> Tumi backpacks are acceptable for mtf trannys
Ftfy

>>49807217
Statt lifting weights, so you can wear a MANS watch on that delicate little wrist of yours.

>>49807350
at least wear a gold Rolex if you're into precious metals.

>>49807350
Anon also needs to chill out on the salt, literally, look at those swollen fingers...

>>49805722
You havent seen mine ;)

>>49807368
Wait... salt makes fingers swollen? Because i put tons of salt on my food since forever and i've super swollen fingers but i never understood why.
I've been told it was because of all the opiates i take (i'm on prescribed morphine and various others morphinic painkillers for a very painful genetic disease i have) so i never searched beyond this explanation before..

What is happening with my fingers fren?

>>49807365
I like gold, and I like to wear some.
But a gold rolex is faggy. Platinum tho, different story.
I do have little watch collection. I like the Swiss.
>>49807368
kek, fuck off. I also eat lots of sugar to balance out.

Dubs and I buy some gold, 7 and I buy some silver

>>49806466
Ps.no hate for you or your watch. Right occasion with the right clothes, might just look cool.

>>49807486
gold is fun. I just rarely find gold rolexes at a price that is cheap enough. The only one I found that I regret buying was a gold oyster quartz sold by a pawn shop on ebay that went for 10,000 CAD. It was scratched up, needed a new crystal, but was otherwise fine. I think for 500 bucks I could have put in a new crystal, gotten the bracelet tightened, and had the movement serviced. Other than that the ones I see are all way more than I want to spend.

>>49807579
Bought my submariner bout 10 years ago for 8.500$. Has been around the the with me, took it diving a couple of times, and since it's an automatic, all I need is to wear it everyday and never have to change batteries. Incredible masterpiece of precision work.
The price for the yellow submarine (gold submariner) is about 35.000$.
Absolutely no justification for such a price increase, for that little bit of gold. except for collectors. And fags. kek

But I agree that jewellery and especially luxury watches are a great investment.

>>49806931
>>49806330
Get a room you 2 literal faggots. No one cares you that you spent thousands of dollars on weapons. Retarded shits. YWNBAW

Back to your containment board troops

>>>/k/

>>49777777

>>49807426
>You havent seen mine ;)
>Doesn’t post it
C’mon man

>>49807807
>Imagine stacking silver and gold without stacking brass and lead

>>49807807
thats good jelly

>>49807874
leaf land just banned handguns. The kicker is I used to have a black market pistol and I stupidly got rid of it. Black market pistol prices here are so crazy now.

>>49807874
Holy shit what a cringe comment. If you want to show off your faggot guns that you’ll never use in your shitty life, you literally have an entire board for it, don’t come and sperg out here, faggot. Just goes to show the level of retardation of the average guntard. The meme frog just adds the cherry on top.

>>49807920
The real kicker is the liberal party just brought up the IDEA of banning hand guns, their not banned yet (transfers are not frozen like the gov wants) so buy as many as you can while you can!

>>49807874
Don't sweat the no-guns bongs anon. Yours are ok. I'm partial to shoulder mounted artillery pieces myself though.
Got a nice Henry .44 that will take down anything on 4 legs. Launches .305 grain buffalo bore at 1900 ft/sec. The bigger the animal the more devastating the round is. Picture getting hot by a truck, but on the inside and you get a sense of the amount of energy transfer that happens when this round doesn't pass through.
Thought about get a 45-70 but decided to spend my money on a FN Herstal in .308 instead.

>>49807982
>don’t come and sperg out here, faggot

>>49807920
>leaf land just banned handguns.
Why lie? They're so incompetent they still haven't banned the baby killer-15s like they said they would over two years ago. RCMP are hopefully too incompetent and retarded to do shit anyways.

>>49808015
Oh wow dude you’re so cool you’re literally rambo. We should all suck your dick for having so many cool guns. So awesome.

Faggot an hero

>>49808024
>filename
lmao!

>>49807982
You are the one sperging faggot
Only a retard does not have all the precious metals

>>49808015
>The bigger the animal the more devastating the round is.

So if you were to use it on yourself that shit would be really strong huh? You fat 300 kg Amerilard

2bh i wish metals would crash too

>>49807982
>meme frog

Woah, I bet you don’t even stack. What are you doing here?

>>>>Reddit

>>49808043
Not a lie. I thought it was already done. Still, there are a TON of guns floating around so there will be lots on the black market for a long time before they dry up, so even if you banned them tomorrow it would take decades for them to become scarce.

>>49808174
Funny that you say that since reddit literally has a huge gun subreddit where I bet most of you faggots go to circle jerk when you’re not ruining threads here

>>49808126
Post stack or wife faggot , but I don't think you have either. Get ready to suck cock to survive faggot

>>49808132
>metal goes up
>we become rich
>metal goes down
>we can afford more and get bigger piles
/pmg/ chads literally CAN'T lose

>>49808211
Now hold on there, not off topic at all. pm and guns are definitely correlated. What do you think we defend our shinies with, a slingshot?

>>49808214
Survive what dipshit? Life isn’t like the walking dead you low iq subhuman man child. Statistically, The only thing you’re ever going to use your toys for is to one day an hero. And the world will be a better place after that.

>>49808238
You don’t defend them from anything. What century do you live in? Or do you live in a shit hole like Somalia or Detroit?

>>49808260
No stack no wife faggot confirmed. You will be the one to an hero tranny

>>49808287
>you don't defend them from anything
Where the fuck do u live? Michael Moores Canada? Literally my neighbor next door just had her house broken into last month, luckily with her not being inside.
If she'd been inside, by the time the cops are alerted, and arrived, she gets rapped twice.. 3 minutes are a lot of time anon, when you have evil intentions.

>>49808365
Well thanks for confirming you live in a shithole kek. I don’t live in one, so I don’t have to worry about having my house broken into.

>>49808425
property crime in canada is awful. Same thing in the states. What country are you in?

>>49808365
>can rape a woman twice, in 3 minutes.
Based zoomer.
>>49808425
Dumbass, paranoia just is another word for it hasn't happened yet.

To try to recover this thread why do the powers that be want Gold so badly anyway, and why do they want to do everything they can for us to not have it without drawing attention to the fact?
>countless gold mines get nationalized
>fractional gold has ridiculous premiums, making it harder for poorfags to stack
>It was illegal to even own gold in the US for almost 40 years, and by a mere executive order
>countless normalfags are convinced gold is worthless, and only want it as overpriced jewelry
>platinum and palladium are significantly rarer, yet don't cost as much as gold and definitely aren't valued in proportion
>Hitler supposedly stole shitloads of gold despite not using it as currency

can't believe I missed the screencap. how's everyone doing?

>>49808363
>n-n-no y-y-y-oure a tranny!!
Hahaha looks like I hit a nerve, you know you can’t argue with the fact that you’re 100 times more likely of using them on yourself than on playing out your vigilante fantasy so you resort to name calling. Thanks for the laugh anon and conceding defeat

>>49807858
I have a lot of unique pieces which I (reasonably) think could be used in correlation to identify me. But I'll see if I can come up with something.

>>49808465
because high precious metals values signal hyper inflation. Jews use the fiat system of jew owned central banks to print out money and take over the world. High precious metals values signal hyper inflation and can cause currency runs - which would ruin the currencies that jews have the power to create with their central banks. Thats why they try to stop people from thinking about gold and silver as monetary metals and suppress the price of precious metals by selling futures contracts on comex and LME for metals that don't exist - a scam designed to make it look like there are more metals than there are, which keeps the metals price down, which hides inflation, which keeps the fiat system going. Most people that own precious metals don't own metals because they invest in scams like LME or COMEX or other "stored in a foreign vault lol" services run by criminal kikes.

>>49808211
I wouldn’t know. I don’t go to Reddit.

Post your stack or fuck off.

>>49808287
War, war never changes.

>>49808483
All in all pretty good. There is a super jelly bong here raging cause he can't own guns. Making the thread slightly less comfy than usual but you can ignore him like everyone else and it's pretty nice.

>>49808591
Those are the rules.

>>49808591
Why are you talking to the trainwreck?

>>49808591
>Post your stack or fuck off.

Probably a terminally butthurt cryptobaggie that just got liquidated, pay the pathetic creature no mind.

>>49808615
>le thread is le comfy
Why do gunfags like you always talk like the biggest faggots on earth? I bet you’re going to refer to your gun as pew pew next huh faggot

>>49808465
Gold and silver are the main ingredient in super conductors. Modern fighter jets have a gold conduit around the cockpit for some kind of electronic warfare stuff.
They want to build space ships with it.

Any bog updates? Mintanon was supposed to get them middle of this week.

>>49808642
Just shaming him into submission. Reminding him that he’s here shitposting for no other purpose than he’s a miserable loser who can only spread his disquietude and feelings of inadequacy.

>>49808591
God, guns and gold. In that order. It's all you need.

>>49808615
sounds good. here's for posting shit bong's can't get

>>49808701
Can you get me a job working where you work?

>>49808651
I’ve literally never invested in crypto in my life, nice projection though. But hey since you were left holding the bag at least you have everything you need for an hero ing in Minecraft

>>49808689
They don't feel shame anon. They are like abandoned children. Any attention is validation.

>>49808578
I just wonder why GOLD. I assume they don't "want" us to own silver in the same way they don't want us to exercise, eat a lot of meat or read antisemitic books- but something about Gold specifically feels different. I wish I could articulate my feelings better than saying "I feel like I'm on the edge of discovering something about Gold that'll make me want it so bad I stop buying silver" but I just don't know what.
Maybe silver is simply too big to control at a centralized level, while Platinum and Palladium are too small to manipulate others with? Could it really be that simple, that Gold exists in the perfect quantity to control with?

>>49808710
50 looks like savannah.videos on tiktok.
Fuck now I want one.

>>49808701
Based fren

>>49808730
Plumber apprenticeships are all over the country anon. Go sign up, live someplace where pipes freeze in the winter then charge a fucking leg to come fix some yuppies pipe.

>>49808743
yeah the 50's are always hotties, and the 10s cuties

>>49808701
Phew, nice stack.

>>49808689
> Reminding him that he’s here shitposting for no other purpose than he’s a miserable loser who can only spread his disquietude and feelings of inadequacy.
>Says the faggot literally showing off his toys to complete strangers for validation
Hahahahaha lmfao this is too much faggot hahaha

>>49808741
Gold can only be disolved (not necessarily destroyed) by one chemical. It is extremely conductive. It is also extremely dense.
Try to think of something where you would want a material that conducts electricity with extreme efficiency, is dense, and resists all corrosion.

>>49808701
you forgot ground and grain

>>49808710
If I ever get my stack where I want it I would by some for art. They are worthless as gold investments but holy shit are the beautiful.

>>49808761
>live some place where pipes freeze in the winter
Fucking genius.
The wolf sleeps next to its prey. Prey being dumb bigcity fags that don't know pipes freeze in the winter.
I kneel master.

>>49808701
Boss

>>49808797
>you forgot ground and grain

And Gallium

>>49808741
gold is the true central bank monetary metal. Back in the day when there was international trade there was a "gold room" in a bank with sections for each country and gold would get shifted around to the sections owned by each country as trade progresses. It's only post-breton woods when Kikes using there Amerimutt golem forced the entire world at gunpoint to accept that the USD isn't just a fiction like all other unbacked fiat currencies but a "reserve asset" on par with gold.

As the USD dies as it will no longer be able to maintain dollar hegemony gold will migrate back into orbit as the centre of the global financial solar system.

Gold is money. Gold is the most value dense money you can buy.

I can load up my backpack with gold and get on a boat and leave the country if I need to. I could never do that with silver. Gold is true freedom.

anyone have a site that i can track the paper to physical silver and gold ratios? is there a nice time and ratio chart someplace?

>>49808797
Not bad anon, youve even sorted it by family or genus? Idk, but good job either way.
Ive got probably some 300 distinct seeds with several varieties between a few of them. I dont even have any idea how I would grow them all. I need to make a digital archive with all the instructions needed to grow each plant.

>>49808797
God provides for the sparrow, who does not sow his own seed nor wonders where it comes from. Are you not more dear to him than it?
If you have God, hell provide the grain. If you have gold, you'll get the ground, if you have guns, you'll keep the ground.

>>49808834
Holy shit you’re cringe. Are you always this much of a faggot ?

>>49803491
elaborate please

>>49808868
Seems cursed, you touch it and it melts and slips between your fingers.

>>49808780
Man, you really aren’t from around here. I haven’t posted any of my guns. Do you know how to identify posters?

Ok, so you don’t have precious metals and you don’t have crypto. Next you’ll tell me you don’t have stocks or land or even a car. So what do you have? Are you some poor pinko living in a flat in London? What possessed you to come shit up the board?

>>49808795
>Try to think of something where you would want a material that conducts electricity with extreme efficiency, is dense, and resists all corrosion
Isn't that Silver?

Seriously though, I've read about the chemical properties on Gold and Silver near daily for over a year now thanks to /pmg/ and S*TF. By this point what I can only really learn new is the moral, financial and political actions around PMs.
>>49808870
Good post, makes a lot of sense

>>49808812
I wouldn't say worthless. they're the only really practical way to use gold as day-to-day currency

here's pasta for you or newbies:

>value
Average retail price
(though the old formula still works pretty well if you add another $0.60)
Old formula: $1.1 + (spot / 1000) * 1.155

>general info
https://goldback.com/
https://youtu.be/O5zyqKuqJ3o

>states
Utah
Nevada
New Hampshire
*Wyoming
*South Dakota

>durability
https://youtu.be/LT-NW8vfb3M
https://youtu.be/JJ31IjtXtik

>examples of use
https://youtu.be/nQrbaSWdiHs
https://youtu.be/HCsJxk3mV70

>answers to retarded questions
Can it be melted down? https://youtu.be/8rhO7TRp6z8 (2:00)

>available
defythegrid.com - cheapest prices for low denoms
bullionexchanges.com
jmbullion.com
goldback.com/how-to-get-goldbacks


>>49808868
gallium is cool but not at all on the same teir
>>49808898
yeah kind of

>>49806466
based

>>49808701
>post collapse
>raiders on the horizon
>anon uses large stack as cover and pops heads

>>49808880
amen

>>49808873
I have it sorted by most specific (genus) until the box is full, then I sort by next broadest. works well save a few exotics I have that don't justify their own box. also cold-strat get their own since they're in the fridge
I've got a spreadsheet to keep track as well

>>49808929
I was thinking more of black project shit where you absolutely need something to work 100% of the time and do so efficiently, without fail. Copper corrodes, burns out, flakes, etc. but gold will never corrode, it will push electricity through no matter what along with its density it would seem to be able to handle a higher amperage, along with it being easy to re-form should it become damaged.

>>49808911
I have plenty of investments, retard, I’ve posted my stack here in the past. You do understand that right? Or does your nigger mind not understand the concept of the past?

>>49808973
I need to start doing that, wow man thats genuinly cool as fuck. What kind of boxes do you use, how do you sort the individual packs of seeds?

>>49808967
one thing people forget is that in a real currency crisis when gold moons and you REALLY have to hide your metals -- do you want thousands of pounds of silver that you need to be able to hide and even move at a moment's notice?

Is there any way to get gold/silver without overpaying? I guess I could try pawn shops or something but feel like I'm gonna get scammed. Any easy purity tests?

>>49809056
got these photo boxes: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08NT64QNY
inside each cell I just kind of put them in; I mean there's only 5-10 packs per cell even with 225 items like I have
but yeah it makes it easy to see if we're out of something or need to use something up, or find it in the box

>>49809223
learn to acid test. There are also various electronic testers. For gold and bullion you buy from a bullion dealer which seem to only exist in some cities.

>>49809223
I guess I should ask instead: will dealers let me test their shit infront of them? Is that normal?

>>49809223
sterling is the cheapest

>>49809244
the bullion dealer I go to will test in front of me with X-ray, specific gravity, caliber test (for coins), and scratch test.

>>49809191
Why would I need to hide or move it? It's already buried where nobody would look. Unless I'm physically barred from the area then I can access it as needed. I'm not a schizo so I'm not worried about North Koreans, zombies, or aliens overrunning the place.

>>49809313
I'm paranoid about land grabs in canada. the strange relationship between our government and aboriginals makes me think that they're going to try land grabbing in the future. if that happens and you get run off your land and if that happens you'll wish you didn't have a thousand pounds of silver.

>>49809191
>do you want thousands of pounds of silver that you need to be able to hide and even move at a moment's notice?
I plan on bugging in if SHTF, along with the rest of my community in the sticks. City folks are the ones who need to worry about moving their shit. Also caches are a good idea.

>>49809370
USA and Canada are at risk of Zimbabwe style land grabbing.

>>49809223
When getting coins, all you need is a 0.1g precise scale, a calipper, a loupe and a magnet, you can get all of that for like 20 bucks total
for jewellery you pretty much have to trust the markings, if you're into gems you have to get a Diamond Tester or a spectrometer

>>49808885
YES!

Now post stack, or fuck off redditor.

>>49809416
>USA and Canada are at risk of Zimbabwe style land grabbing.
Behind every blade of grass...

>>49809461
I think I just want to get silver desu, was thinking of grabbing 100oz but not picky at all on how it looks. I have a lot of pawn shops near me so I was thinking of hitting those up to see if they sold closer to spot price.
Made almost half a million in crypto and have nothing but fiat (US dollars). Only just started buying back crypto, but I fear inflation of USD.

Where can I find a beautiful woman in bongland?

10 more years of greatness

>>49809053
>I-I have investments!
>I’ve posted them in the past

Then it would be easy for you to post them again, no?

Any American that hates on the British in this thread is a spic, simple as

posting again, copped a few days ago.

>>49809644
>endless money printing suppresses commodities prices

Water is wet

>>49809625
speaking as somone whose family is there and have been to the UK a lot they are very rare

>>49809802
it should be the opposite, money printing = money is worth less due to inflation = commodity prices rise in dollar value.

>>49809777
Some Brits are ok, but Britain is a ruinous dump full of alcoholics which lacks basic dental hygiene as a cultural norm. I’m very glad my people left it and came to the states. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

>>49807461
Guess I'm built different cause my diet is 999% sodium based and I've got boney little fingers.
>>49807350
>>49807172
>>49807217
MAKE WAY FOR THE MADE IT WATCH
THE REEALL NIGGA WATCH
ITS 3:40 WHICH MEANS IT'S WATCH MOGGING TIME
>>49808463
Shiieet it'd take me 3 seconds
>>49807246
>Grant essentially told Lee at Appomattox, that Northerns and Southerns were all brothers
Yeah I think both of them were pretty cool guys when it's all said and done.

>>49809836
I have that same watch, my zoomer brother told me it's very fashionable rn and he would know

>>49808233
Checked; you figured out /pmg/'s secret.

>>49808870
>>49808929
Except silver is the original money.
Silver was forcibly demonetized and gold was aggressively forced onto people by you know who.
See this screencap. >>49804546

>>49809930
nah gold was the ORIGINAL money in babylonia, asia minor and egypt.

later empires like rome and greece used silver and lesser metals but gold is easier to mine and refine.

Gold is eternal, never tarnishes. Silver turns to a green mush eventually

So many noguns, nostack europoors seething in this thread lmao.

>>49810101
>Silver turns to a green mush eventually
Post source. I'm interested in learning more about the green mush.

>>49810178
>When silver objects are exposed to pollutants normally found in air, they gradually become dull and discolored. This darkening of silver is called tarnishing. It occurs when silver undergoes a chemical reaction, classified as an oxidation reaction, with sulfur-containing substances.

>>49808872
silverseek or goldseek. they have trackers on the side of the page. spot price and ratio over time.

>>49810178
Not him, just chiming in to say that while I don't know if it happens to silver, I do know it happens to copper.

>>49810220
It isn't corrosive though. The chemical reaction binds sulfur to the surface of silver and the reaction is over. None of the silver is lost in the process.

>>49810329
What about over hundreds of years?

>>49810155
Europoor here, those anti gun faggots are yours.
As you can imagine giving you force teenager to transition and literally create faggots in your schools.
When shtf, I'm coming for you and your guns first.

>>49809930
A lot of shills out today, they will never get my stack.

>>49809237
Thats perfect, thank you man, this will make a big difference in keeping my shit organized.

For those of the /pmg/ Anons who can still read (may they prosper), the Leafnada gubmint has a page about "silver tarnishing":

https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/training-learning/in-person-workshops/understanding-silver-tarnish.html

This is surprisingly based coming from a backward dictatorship like Cubanada. It's a good read, they even mention egg Anon'.
Fuck Canada, fuck canadians and analy fuck canadian women tho'

Pic' unrelated

>>49803936
The no hat was closer to the parodied coin. Which I bought in advance. I preferred the no hat cos less obviously edgy. But would have bought either. I’ll stick an order in for two later as the shipping for me is half a coin. ;-;

>>49804480
how much silver can I ingest without turning blue?
all the benefits definitely are worth the risk

>>49810350
Nope. This coin is around 2000 years old. Over means done/complete/finished, not slowly progressing over hundreds of years.
>>49810312
Copper won't turn into mush either. It is just the surface that reacts with the air to turn green. The statue of liberty is over 100 years old and perfectly fine.

>>49803936
I'm the first Anon' who opposed the hat. I have great *mental* power over Frensmark Anon'.
Fear my psychic might you faggots.

Now gib the indiegogo link. I want my cool "no hat Apu". All you faggot will seeth and weep.

>>49810406
ok let me know when you're done swimming the atlantic

>>49810645
Based. Hatfags get the rope.

>>49809258
beautiful utensils anon

>>49810645
Just “Frensmark” I think. We at almost 60% too. Might actually get funded…unless the 28 or so people who already funded are all of the memelords who wanted it. With postage I could get two oz of Britannias instead, or be part of pmg history like the apus and holocoiners before me.

>>49810740
Banda

>>49810889
>Hatfags get the rope
Nuff' said.

>>49810889
>Just “Frensmark” I think
Correct
>Might actually get funded
Gib link, plox.

>>49811080
Just Google Frensmark or silver coin on indigogo. Posting the link makes the Jannies sad and I like posting.

If I actually do post my stack what’s to stop some cyber kid tracking me down with computer wizardry?

>>49811431
Just don't take a pic with any landmarks or do it on /p/
Every other board scrubs exif data from images.
Posting landmarks leads to shit like this.

>>49811431
If you are over 30 and a virgin you can use your actual wizard powers to fight them off. Failing that, add a few knives and guns to the stack pic to show you mean business. Or a questionable gender anime figure/robot thing so that no one would want your stack anyway.

AAAAAAAAAAAA I SOLD MY SILVER TO COVER RENT BETWEEN JOBS AND I HAVEN'T STARTED MY NEW ONE TO REACOOM DON'T MOON YET

>>49811431
Id be glad if some nigger tried any shit. Would give me an excuse to shoot an intruder.
As well as having 2 alarm systems, a rottweiler, and my neighbor is a cop

>>49811528
Don't worry, it'll take at least a year before silver has any mentionable upward price movement

>>49811528
Why didn't you sell it to us as cheapies?

>>49808211
Is this a new meme? Instead of
>guns kill people
Now Leftists are saying
>guns are lame and uncool
Imagine how many balls have to slap your chin to be this pathetic

>>49809191
>thousands of pounds of silver
I have a little over 1,000 oz. It weighs roughly 65lbs. No one on this board will ever even see thousands of lbs of silver

>>49812384
Silber Sunday

There's a 42 year old cup and handle pattern on silver, which will take it to about $500

>>49812727
$500 will get you a bread in 2023

>>49809345
Aboriginal here, I'm grabbing both MY land AND my silver back whiteboi

>>49813064
Yo, when I was in the Dreamtime the other night all my teeth broke. What’s the significance.

>>49812818
how many breads have you eaten in your life?

>>49803013
I’m in this post and I like it

>>49803013
It is over metaltards, gold is now officially worthless. Uganda discovered 31 Million Metric Tons of Gold. Add this to asteroid mining and it makes your precious rocks worthless.

>>49813488
>Uganda discovered

>>49803936
Why did he autistically hate hats though?

>>49813488
good thing I only stack silver

>>49813488
>wakanda is real! b-because it is ok?
Does the Nigerian prince know about this? The one that keeps sending me emails about his inheritance.

>>49813827
Methallica

>>49813893
lol

>>49812727
Bullshit.

>>49813488
Will usa invade?

>>49803013
>tfw you're in the screencap

>>49810155
it's cryptofailure/inflation season. They come here to cope to feel better about their "investments". They'll tell you they pulled out and are rich now (then why would you be here), made +20000% which wouldn't have been possible with silver (that's not why we stack), that our metal is worthless blah blah (that's why the banks and governments buy the stuff, just for fun, yea).
you learn to enjoy them for their cope.

>>49813488
we've been through this
>Uganda discovered 31 Million Metric Tons of Gold
Gold ORE.
>which nobody is mining yet
>if someone is mining it, it's the chinese
>it'll take years to come online

>>49812727
I wish. I'd finally be a millionare

>>49814668
Beautiful, I'm in the screencap too. It feels great being famous.

i got somefing

>>49810617
Right. Like the process of bluing steel that intentionally creates a coating of an iron oxide that prevent further corrosion of the steel.

>>49815857
do i have autism?
> Yes I do!

>>49813827
Megameth.

>>49815964
Yes I should get more Morgan dollars.

>>49816570
they feel so perfec.

>>49807246
>essentially told Lee at Appomattox, that Northerns and Southerns were all brothers
Sadly, their carpetbagger descendants would prefer to restart hostilities and reopen wounds.

>>49810220
So tarnishing and not green mush? Got it. When you tell people stories do you find you embellish a lot of details?

>>49808684
we got bogged

>>49804296
I haven't. I got my whole family sick with the coof, my central air broke, and had a change in water that i needed to find a solution to. I'm about a week behind on archives. Coming soon (tm)

>>49809930
The first coinage was electrum - an alloy of gold and silver. So silver and gold bros belong on the same team. Don't fall for the divide and conquer tactic.

>>49804908
Rarity doesn't make something worth owning. If I was given the option of owning one of those coins or paying $5 not to own one, I would pay the $5 to not be associated with that sperg.

The sudden dramatic increase in anti-PM shills is giving me a tremendous boost in confidence. Seriously. It has the smell of last-ditch desperation to it.

>>49817294
Nice krug, fren

>>49809972
Gold isn’t easier to mine or refine than silver. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>49803013
Hello frens, I am new to the PMs game and was hoping to learn a little about it.
I have around 24 oz in rounds and sovs headed my way.
Should I also consider junk silver?
I have no interest whatsoever in jewelry.
Also, I am on about 24k a year so I generally can't spend a lot.

Anyone ever heard of this website before? I just randomly came across it, looks comfy.

https://www.suissegold.eu/en/

I know I shouldn't but those sovereigns are tempting me. I'm a weak weak man.

>>49817472
Where are you from?

>>49817368
You too, fren. The springboi is beautiful. And the neckbeard is not bad either.

>>49817294
This, same with the Uganda story

>>49817500
Hillbilly Land, Tennessee.

>>49817472
Based on the salary I’d assume the UK as that’s a fairly standard salary for someone aged about 22-30 in an average job.

What rounds do you have friendo? I buy rounds I like then try and get older coins on eBay close to spot unless I like the design or just really need a Kennedy/mercury/Morgan because all I have to get here easily are shitty 3pences and debased 6pences.

>>49817472
Welcome! You are just in time to catch the train.

Junk silver used to be relatively cheap. I'm not sure about that anymore. It has the advantage of being recognizable to normies. It is also alloyed so it holds up to jingling in your money pouch. Also, junk silver is often beautiful. If you are on a budget, it is probably best for you to seek out the lowest premiums from any reliable source and stack what you can.

Good luck!

>>49817602
Ah, hopefully someone from the States will fill you in with the information you need. I'm from the UK so the information I would have given you would have only applied to you here.

>>49817659
More godless florins. As many as you can get with young Victoria before she trolled out.

>>49817595
Yup. Uganda has about as much chance of disrupting world gold supply with the supposed new deposit as it does of developing a space program and mining asteroids.

>>49817690
What good is my info to someone on the other side of the world who can't receive the benefits that I would be able to in Bongland. There's a reason I ditched my silver and gold bars for sovereigns and sort after gold coin, that benefit wouldn't apply to him.

happy fathers day

>>49817479
there's another site that looks the same, swissbullion.eu
from what I recall last time it was brought up,
both seem to have the same ownership
not a lot of reviews on trustpilot
depends what you're buying I'd say
small orders should be fine since they do have a bunch of positive reviews
but for a larger order it's not worth risking not getting delivery, mega delays, .. stick to the ones you trust
25% of their reviews are 1/5 stars
yet somehow their overall is 4/5 stars..

>>49809847
Casio is the best watch every made.

>>49813139
In dream parlance, teeth are indicitive of one's feelings of financial health. You're worried about being poor, bro.

>>49818195
Checks out

>>49817472
My stance: gold and silver (G&S) should be purchased for three reasons:
- simply holding and admiring the stuff,
- as a way to transfer wealth.
- as a hedge against rampant inflation.
>The *prices* of metals will increase, but their trade value will remain stable.
Generic G&S values change slowly, though silver's wider industrial application contributes to its larger price fluctuations. Generally, if an ozt of Ag buys five loaves of bread now, it should still buy you five loaves many years from now. Rampant ("hyper") inflation is possible depending on your country's economy, but the chances are small in most western countries. The inflation we now see is mostly caused by high fuel and shipping costs, and Covid stimulus coming to bite us. This is different from an economy and currency going bust.
>Protip: keep your purchase receipts so you can deduct the purchase price from what would otherwise look like pure profit.
When you're cash fat and older, you might want G&S to transfer wealth to your heirs. No-one would be the wiser. When bequeathing, states may look at financial records as far back as 5 years: make sure you've built up a stack over time to enable obscuring the bulk of your wealth.
>Investment strategies create wealth. PMs store wealth.
In ordinary times, you will not get rich trading PMs. You get rich, then typically buy PMs from retailers. To make a profit they charge above spot - a "premium". Numismatic value aside, they will buy from you below spot (rarely at or above), but in any case below their premiums: they are businesses. So you need time for the prices of metals rise to where you would break even.

>>49818153
>Casio is the best watch every made.
incorrect, but certainly one of the greatest

Syscon relies on the most widely trusted and thoroughly tested security model in the industry Bitcoin's Proof of Work through a process called merge mining.

Well, I put some silver in my Ebay cart last night hoping the seller would offer me a deal. He did last week but I had yet to get my first paycheck from my new job, so I couldn't buy it. Looks like I'm heading to New Hampshire to buy those "other" PMs instead. I'm sad bros. Would have been able to check two things off of my to buy list this week. Oh well. Don't forget to stack brass, copper and lead, frens. Not as fun, but just as important.

>incorrect, but certainly one of the greatest

>>49819052
You mean goldbacks?

>>49808967
the only thing that stack and guns will ever be used for is to get le updoots on le reddit.

>>>/reddit/

is it worth buying some copper bars along with silver, or is copper just not a worthwhile investment due to the amount of weight you need for any significant value?

>>49819945
>is it worth buying some copper bars along with silver
nope

>>49819945
Manufactured copper (whether utilitarian or art) is grossly expensive. That said, the copper art bars I bought a decade ago are selling now for triple what I paid. But that brings in your second point - you need a shitload of it to make a dent in your portfolio. My recommendation is to buy bars for the novelty only. Hoping it will triple again might be fantasy amyway.

>>49819945
I was thinking of buying some copper rounds of sexy tiddy girls because I don’t want to spend £40 on the equivalent in silver.. but even for £5 I felt that I’d austically look at every purchase and add it up to do the “if I haven’t bought xyz I could have bought abc”.

So for now, I don’t buy copper.

>>49819945
Copper is everywhere in the wild. Ask your local gypsy community.

>>49819945
Buy old pennies if you really want some copper. They can be had for spot in bulk.

>>49810220
Silver does not turn green. That’s copper or bronze. Silver turns black when it oxidizes. Any green in sterling comes from the copper oxidizing.

>>49804480
Will leaving a silver coin in my daily drinking bottle be enough to achieve Papa Smurf mode?

Should I care about mint series more or thats something I should look into after building an okay stack of "basic" coins/bars?

I'm new to this, have yet to acquire any metals but I am trying to look into acquiring some in the future.

>>49820584
Get them if you want them. Just buy one of each and start now when the prices are normal. Completing a set that’s already started will be expensive as you’ll have to eBay the older shiz. Buy what you want of course, but try and bulk out with easily sold stuff like maples, eagles, Britannias rather than hoping to make money off star wars commemorative coins or something. Although I do recall some guy bought loads of assassins creed silver 1oz because that was the cheapest 1oz available lol.

>>49820584
Numismatics are their own “thing”. If you want some silver I recommend sniping sterling on eBay or at estate sales. You can get it for cheaper than spot and amass a kilo or more quite easily. You won’t “get into” numismatics easily anymore. Anything worth collecting like silver eagles or constitutional junk silver is at super high premiums. Make yourself a nice stack of sterling or .999 fine silver bullion in the form of 10 oz/kilo/100 oz bars, depending on your resources, of course.

>>49820478
No, you need colloidal silver.

>>49818469
I like your Seiko 5 anon, I have a green one.

>>49818449
These are great, wish I had a Harper's Ferry. Or a Gettysburg or Appomattox, if that exists.

Dumb question that has probably been asked a billion times before, but coin vs bullion. Just starting and was either thinking Philharmonik or bullion, does it make a difference in the long run?

>>49820641
I'm quite fond of the Britannias, those are what ive been eyeing for the most part right now. I have between 500-1000€ of available capital to buy every month so I should be able to get the ball rolling decently okay (from my own perspective) other than tradeability of 1oz coins, is it less or more worthwhile to acquire bars over coins in general, or is it better to have a majority in coins and less so in bars?

>>49820725
Coins with a face value are money, and are easier to get through customs/ports. They are also prettier typically and if you sell the buyer may be assured by the built-in anti-counterfeit technology like holograms or microstamping.

Bullion is fine too, but imo you want to start stacking that for weight only after you have a satisfactory amount of coins.

In the long run, they're both good. Bullion will be very slightly cheaper but harder to trade without shaving/cutting if you go for big weights.

Let's get these done! Was a hatfag, but these look good too. Will they still be made if the goal is not met?

>>49820734
You have way more money that me. With those resources get a decent selection of coins that you like then top up with bars or larger coins.

If I had those resources I’d probs get a selection of coins that interest me like queens virtues, kookaburras etc then maybe a tube of Britannias, tube of maples then start buying 10oz bars or half kg bars.

>>49820845

>>49820845

>>49820845

>>49820845

>>49820845

>>49820677
Makes sense, thanks

>>49820723
Harper's and Gettysburg exist, but I don't know of an Appomattox.

>>49817417
>Gold isn’t easier to mine or refine than silver. What the fuck are you talking about?

Certainly not cheaper ounce for ounce, but I think the point was it's technically and logistically easier for some pleb with a shovel and pan to get raw native metallic gold than it is for someone to get raw native silver

>>49809836
>Yeah I think both of them were pretty cool guys when it's all said and done.
Despite what (((niggers))) might tell you, the wounds of the civil war were healed by the 1890s. The Confederacy was heavily respected by the average American. Theres a reason why there are confederate monuments in the Northern States. (((Niggers))) will tell you that Confederate soldiers were traitors to America, when even in the time of Lincoln, they’re considered American veterans and so they are buried in National Cemeteries right across from Union dead. This was a continuous mutual respect. There is a bunch of period film from the early 20th century of Civil war veterans meeting up at the places they fought each other, decades before. Not hate between Americans there, despite what the (((nigger))) may tell you. Confederate General Johnston literally died of pneumonia that he got due to him having his hat off during the entirely of Shermans funeral. He was repeatedly asked to put his hat back on, only to say “I know if things were reversed, he’d take his off for me.” Normies raised by the (((news))) will never understand this.

>>49816727
>their carpetbagger descendants
>their descendants
Non whites, kikes, and normies aren’t Americans.

>>49821088
>immigrant irish and germs
>"whites"
Anon, America is a Spanish continent.

>>49821139
>Spanish
You tards had the worse European empire ever. Literally lost most of everything in under 50 years. UK levels of retardation. Now all thats left are mutt spics. But if their still Spanish, we’ll gladly send them back to Spain for you.

>>49818449
>>49817659
>>49817657
>>49817654

Thanks guys.

>>49820786
Thanks, Anon!

>>49821229
The Spanish empire was at its height for 300 years you retard. They single-handedly cucked the Ottomans, the Moors, and the Dutch.

>>49821971
Within less than 30 years, the lost 75% of their empire. And it wasn’t even after world war two, so there is no excuse other than being shitty.

>>49822161
>they lost it within 30 years
>they literally ruled the americas for 300 years
Am I being trolled or are you this stupid?

>>49822214
>they literally ruled the americas for 300 years
And lost it all but Cuba and Puerto Rico in 28 years.

>>49822237
Retard, it literally took 300 years for them to lose it. They conquered it, ruled for 300 years, and then lost it. What part don’t you get?