/biz/ - Business & Finance

wassup my Black brothers, the Juneteenth is on monday
i'd finna reccomend you trade boldly tomorrow as Nubian Kang magic will bring you good luck. Yo stocks gonna be doin' a lil sumsum u know what im sayin?

as for whitebois, i would advise caution on friday...

we collapsing
buy deenz

>>49723599
FUCK

UHHHHH SERS... WE MAY HAVE PROBLEMS

Inflation is Putler's fault you chud

Reminder to shit bricks tomorrow at 8:45.

>>49723636
QT hasn't even started bud............................

>>49723599
there should be Putin! instead of Biden / Trump

you stupid burgers blaming someone who has absolute no power in democracy over these things while Putin is the high leader that signs everything in his dictatorship and literally crashed whole economy RN

god i fucking hate those people that know exactly the cause but still point their fucking finger at someone whos not even in charge of things

This is a make it or break it market. Half the market sees an incoming sovereign debt crisis and currency crisis, and the other half of the market thinks we’re still playing roulette and is getting mad black hasn’t come up in a couple hands.

>friend of a friend is a midwit retard
>spent all of 2021 and most of 2022 talking only about TSLA and BTC
>now seems like a nervous wreck all the time
So many soibois are tied to those two piles of shit. I would welcome a further 50% drop in my portfolio if it meant TSLA and BTC were eradicated.

I'm gonna come

>>49723648
>>49723655
These. So much these.

Where to watch any announcement from BoJ on monetary policy/interest rates? I don't need a translation I just want to hear it live.

put/call spread coming into this opex is so put heavy I'm thinking we might get some hedging the other way during this rollover. Indexes are already approaching pre covid levels so unless we are erasing all of covid gains and then a bunch more I can see less puts being bought this time around

how are you guys looking at opex?

>>49723616
>bawww muh po' black folk
roflmao it's literally a corporate/government created religion at this point

>>49723655
Wow, there are actual fucking retards that believe the Putin price hike bullshit

>>49723655
Going back to reality though, looks like Western media and GAE officials are starting to pivot towards a Ukie surrender. Will Zelenskyyyy fold soon? Will that even be enough to get gas flowing again (both in terms of sanctions and Putin's willingness)?

A-At least I can still watch anime and play vidyas, I guess...

>>49723689
>I'm thinking we might get some hedging
nice

>>49723672
>He bought?

>>49723599
Realistically and Optimistically, how long until the market recovers?

Is SOXL shill still buying soxl or did he abandon us?

ALSO besides soxl leaps I think I want ti buy meme coins since they're all going to 10x if they ever recover

Convince me not to just put an equal amount of money on longing a stock as I do shorting a stock so that my money stays the same either way the stock moves and I don't lose any more money in this bear market.

>>49723616

>>49723722
2024 when Trump wins

>>49723636
what does this mean

>>49723711
Checked and yes

>>49723722
>how long until the market recovers?
What are you really asking?
How long until it fully recovers? To where it was?
Or how long until it starts to recover?

>>49723706
>drawing her arms in such a way she cant even wipe her own ass

>>49723599
It's not his fault that we're in this mess, even though it absolutely will be his fault that it's going to be extremely painful to be in it.

Why is VIX not at 40 yet? This is ridiculous. Is there a manager I can speak with?

>>49723682
just look at the daily chart on tradingview of USDJPY and click on the Jap bubble at the bottom

>>49723616
>i would advise caution on friday
anon you blew it. negr0s don’t talk like that

>>49723737
It means bull run is in effect

Guys serious question here
when the collapse comes
how many days will a fat boomer feed a family of 3 who are at a healthy BMI?
I think it's only fair and prudent to eat the boomers first

Dxy down. 10yr down. Market down. Hmmmmmmm

>>49723777
Checked

GAYSEX BROS, THE DIRECTOR JUST BOUGHT 15K SHARES OF SIGA. IF HE ANNOUNCES A MAJOR CONTRACT, WOULD THIS BE INSIDER TRADING?

>>49723754
The triple witching ends tomorrow so VIX will collapse, before, you know, spiking back up because the market is fucked.

>>49723726
Well if volatility goes up on the stock such that IV outpaces theta decay, that would actually make you some money wouldn't it?

>>49723777
All white people will be herded and processed

>>49723704
It would be best for the global economy if we stopped dragging Ukraine out into another Afghanistan. The west vastly overestimated its soft power re: trade with Russia, and every single western nation is eating a mile of shit because of it. Thing is we are reverting back to WW1 tier not giving a shit about the people, our oligarchs would rather us all die than lose influence on the world stage.

all i want to do is get high with my cat
but my parents won't loan me money to buy SOXL
so now i'm thinking about shipping out to taiwan

>>49723722

Once oil breaks, or else once the US bond market breaks.

Fed wants the former but is risking the later. Either one marks the end of tightening.

>>49723694
really need to STOP SUBSIDIZING their birth rates with welfare and Section 8 but that doesn't even matter if we keep allowing illegals and refuges to flood into the country.

I wish I was in control of the country. Would immediately eliminate safety nets for low iq populations. Work towards fusion. stop sending all our taxes to Israel and other countries.

>>49722907
Here was the full reply.

>>49723741
to post covid levels

>>49723733
sorry anon DeSantis has been chosen by the chosen

Did uhhhhhhhh anyone else notice this today? Seems a bit EXTREMELY FUCKING OMINOUS.

>>49723810
the elites are peices of shit
that only care about platitudes
democracy and history weren't even in their mind when they were talking about fucking with ukraine, same shit with danzig and that was a puny countries holding

>>49723741
how long until it starts to recover
we just started dumping imo so I’m thinking probably not until next year

When is QT scheduled to end?

>>49723744
Based

>>49723704
the fuck will change this?? Putin enjoyes his full power over all sorts of fuel. As you can see few threatening words from him can cause fuel prices to skyrocket even in Murica. We wont see comeback from this state if Putin and others like him are in charge of Russia.

>>49723820
TEST

buy oil

FCF

>>49723777
I would argue that we should eat the blacks first as they are mostly useless eaters, but the thought of putting black in my mouth - even cooked - disgusts me.
But on that topic - calls on PDBC - good idea? It dipped this past week and looks like its starting to recover.

>>49723842
I feel like even reading jewish words and terms puts some kind of curse in my psyche. Kind of like in old japan you dont tell a stranger how to read your name otherwise you get possessed or some shit.

It’s ok cow faggots, it’s not like us bobo chads get to win anyway. Once the debt crisis kicks into overdrive our gains will be forcibly redistributed to your pathetic asses via fed-coin+ anyway

>"Hello, can I speak with Emperor of Japan?"
>"I am invested in the Nikkei 225, yes."
>"No, I will not hold."
>"This is very important."
>"I SAID I WILL NOT HOLD!"

why does the market have to be closed over a fake and gay nigger holiday? doesn't america have enough nigger worship

>>49723672
I've been saying for awhile, QT is negative but social security payouts are massively increasing, which will mostly negate the QT.
The balance sheet should stay relatively flat until they change their minds again

>>49723819
>stop subsidizing the low IQ populations
>The high IQ populations STILL DON'T FUCKING BREED
Extinction is not a valid sociopolitical policy. How would you make women bear children.

>>49723926
This nigger holiday is actually making me racist because they're taking away my trading day

the thing i'm wondering about most is whether bond markets really already adequately priced in QT. seems much harder to estimate risks and effects of QT than for a rape hike.

>>49723616
>The juneteenth nigger dump is upon us

>>49723917
>Emperor of Japan

Not even a real thing. It's just random warlords randomly overthrowing each other every once in a while then lying and saying they had royal blood too even though they were peasants before.

why the fuck do people bow to kings anyway?

Not in my blood to bow to kings or rulers. My people never believed in that.

Priced in

>>49723820
I agree with the appeal of holding oil stocks especially during times like these.
But your reasoning for not going full bobo mode is 100% mental and not philosophical. You are not hurting anyone by shorting spy. All you are doing is failing to profit from a bear market

>>49723966
One word: legalize rape

If I had just bought SOXS I would be up 20% in one day. Fuck. It feels so easy in hindsight.

>>49723926
its gonna be like any other day smoking weed and not working hollering at white bitches who turn out to just be puerto rican

>>49723966
Also I'd set limits for how many children low iq can have. maybe no more than 2.

>>49723874
either way WW3 is behind the corner. Just a matter of time when chinks do something like Russians

>>49723929
Boomers are too much of a voting bloc to make it feasible to cut social security. Uncle sam would sooner put us in plasma harvesting machines than turn off the tap to the boomers

>>49723655
Kek. Nice larp

oh my god
it’s gonna get worse isn’t it

>>49723929
How does increasing social security payout offset QT? That’s even more debt the governments releasing now and less fed buying

>>49723864
It would take like 8 years for their balance sheet to normalize under the current glidepath.

So QT ends when the Fed realizes it broke something and panics. They'll cut rates, switch to QE, and officially destroy the dollar.

>>49723874
Yeah, that's why I don't count Ukraine as a bearish factor for oil or food. You need Ukies to fold, the GAE to fold, EU bureaucrats to fold on sanctions, and Putin to be satisfied. Seems like a ton of dominos.

so what's your next move /smg/ This seems like a shaky place to short or buy

>>49723926
>"So then I told Joe Biden, 'Hey you should make Juneteenth a national holiday so us bankers can trade in the dark pools without those dumb-ass retail traders fucking it up for us - errr I mean because the nig- err I mean blacks would love it and vote democrat forever'"
>"And he believed you?"
>"I don't care if he did, what's he going to do - not accept money under the table to enrich the chosen people?"
>"Lol, LMAO even"

>>49724028
btc accepts 19k TONIGHT

>>49724028
Hope you didn’t buy calls. Also you should start buying canned food faggot

>>49724028

Buddy look at anon computer

>>49724045
Continue holding my deep ITM puts from November

>>49724045
This is an extremely safe spot to short at, I loaded up again today.

>>49723819
>stop sending all our taxes to Israel and other countries.
Kek money is nothing compared to the tech you give to Israel. And of course they sell it to Russia and China. USA production was shipped to China the tech is going to Israel they'll milk the USA dry.

>>49723849
Wtf

>OPTIONS BEING CONVERTED TO SHARES BY SIGA EMPLOYEES
OPTIONS BEING CONVERTED TO SHARES BY SIGA EMPLOYEES

BUYOUT ALERT
BUYOUT ALERT
YOU FUCKEN IDIOTS BUT IT NOW YOU FUCKEN ABSOLUTE DEGENERATES

>>49723874
>it has nothing to do with rational international relations
>putin is just a meanie who likes to step on sandcastles
Putin was once Yeltsin's golden boy, and Yeltsin was a CIA stooge. The reality is in order to maintain his position he had to satisfy the people with political control in Russia, the oligarchs, and their interests are opposed to ours.

>>49724045
Wait until the VIX pops higher and I sell calls

>>49723695
They're paid shills.

How is everyone preparing for the eventual Volga Hurricane?

If I actually could predict the future and had a trading bot, how would I be able to make money?

>>49724110
Lol May siga Chad's report in.

When do the layoffs start? I just started a bullshit wagie job and I want out

>>49724110

>>49724125
Explain.

>>49724037
Deficit spending is at $3 Trillion & growing. If no one is buying bonds, the fed has to. But how can yields rise while the fed has to step in because no one else is buying bonds?
For just one example Japan is the largest holder of bonds and they may need to sell them off to save their own currency.

So who is buying $3 trillion of bonds per year? I don't know myself but I think the fed has to step in.

>>49724144
For tech they've already started. Elsewhere soon, depending on industry

>>49724160
You want me to explain to you how Volga Hurricanes get started in S&P vol surfaces?

>>49724162
Oh, like you mean extra debt will accelerate the fed pivot. I agree, but I also think the fed will probably tell joe to suck a big one and reduce government spending because controlling inflation is one of two fed mandates.

>>49724162
Numbers? You think that can stop a government? Math?

>>49724162
Other central banks

>>49723804
Yes that is the SQQQ/TQQQ 50/50 strat

>>49724195
Yes, I would very much appreciate that

>>49724125
Battening down the hatches and investing 90% of the 'folio in lead. Not bullets, but bricks of lead I keep on pallets. Luckily I own a forklift and am forklift certified. Gonna be so rich.

DRV sisters

Has everyone screaming capitulation or melt up forgotten that this contraction is exactly what the Fed wanted? Not new ATHs or a Great Depression, just a health correction.

>>49724162
Japan in particular will probably not sell off their bonds, why do you think they've been eating miles of economic shit since they bought them in the 90s? We have a gun to their head. Maybe if they turn to China they can escape but that's unlikely considering the political climate is anti china, at least on a surface level. (Even the JCP is anti-China)

>>49724110
IM SCARED GAYSEX BRO. WILL I MAKE BACK ALL MY GARBAGE DON LOSSES?

>>49724195
I have a feeling this'll be funny

>>49723599
kek spy baggies.. how does it feel to consistently be inferior to GME holders

>>49724038
>I don't count Ukraine as a bearish factor for oil or food

Huge portion of wheat, fry oil (its almost 70%) and other goods come from Ukraine (its the main farm of whole europe). Thats why it skyrocketed in the last months and its gonna take atleast a year to normalize.

>EU bureaucrats to fold on sanctions

do you realize the only thing Putin cares for is fuel export? Other sanctions are complete nothingburger
Fuel export cant be banned with sanctions because it would literally turn whole europe dark within a few days.

>>49724080
How much did they cost you when you bought. Puts that far out arr usually quite expensive and iirc requires extreme amounts of movement to even win big

Why aren't we dumping faster? I held off on buying shit and now ROKU pumped slightly FUCK

we're already getting close to 25% down on SPY any body have that chart of previous bear market downtrend percentages? curious how much further this will go before we reach 2008 territory

>>49724195
>Volga Hurricanes
I have no idea what that is so I would like you to explain it, plz fren

>>49724110
What does this mean?

Bring me pictures of redd*t portfolio gore, jannies. I demand it at once

>>49724125
Hedging my bomma and zomma swaps with gamma convexity and crouching niggers. The simpletons here in /smg/ can't even begin to grasp the complexities of options.

>>49724110
HOLY FUCK SIGA GIGA CHADS WAGMI, RETARDS BOUGHT SOXL OVER SIGA LMAOOOOOO

FUTES

>>49723858
The WEF hates democracy and want only stakeholders (I.e. them) to be able to influence policy. Their cronies in western government are practicing weaponized incompetence so that the people lose faith in liberal democracy, and open up to a new system (the great reset). Canada and Trudeau are the test bed of this weaponized incompetence, they can't even issue fucking passports there, and normies who want to travel are losing their minds.

https://youtu.be/EaNgb5NZ3z8
<3

>>49724311
futures literally don't mean anything. they were this green yesterday too. pay them no mind

>>49724311
TYPICAL

thoughts?

>>49724311
BEAR MARKET'S OVER BOYS PACK IT UP

>>49724110
If SIGA helps me recover all of my losses, I will take back every rotten thing I've ever said about the homogay fudgepackers.

>>49723695
>>49724121
i wont normaly reply to you but please take your stuff and go troll on facebook theres plenty of retarded normies that believe you.

Russian troll farmers should be decapitated

>>49724311
They don't mean much until 4am when they reflect the premarket.

Anyone know why crude pumped from today's lows?

>>49724329
I don't think the Great Reset is a "new system", just what is necessary to keep the old one chugging with the same people at the top. Fundamentally nothing has changed and yet people are already not owning their own houses or their own cars

>>49724215
>>49724283
>>49724261
A Volga Hurricane is what happens to very liquid but also very hedged indices like SPX sometimes when a liquidity cascade on indices are drying up. So the first sign of a Volga Hurricane is when VIX9D futures are in retrograde, and you see the VIX3M futures spot cash tenure in backwardation.

What results is a huge number of vol arbitrageurs and other option desks with short vol mandates who decided to loosen up their bomma duct structures and widen the circumference so as to let the liquidity cascade from the bomma duct pour all over their face.

>>49723966
>how would you make women bear children
Ban abortion, birth control, and divorce. Eliminate all welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing. Provide zero-interest loans to white married couples, with a chunk of the loan paid off per white child born.

>>49724329
Why would the elites benefit from state incompetence and why would they need to cause it for it to occur? Nobody will do anything.

>>49724379
kys retard.

SIGA BROS IF THIS HAPPENS I AM GOING TO COOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>49724201
Does anyone have the link explaining this sort of strategy? Been looking for it for a long time

>>49723986
>But your reasoning for not going full bobo mode is 100% mental and not philosophical
Is philosophy not a mental construction?
Perhaps it was a poor choice of words anyway. I think you're wrong though. Shorting objectively hurts anyone who sells at a lower price than they otherwise would have gotten. For a short to make money, someone else must lose money. It's zero sum. Holding longs is not zero sum because in the long run there is profit off the positive returns of the company, which inherently come from some positive marginal economic value.
Aggressive shorting can even deny capital to companies that might otherwise succeed, by scaring off potential investors or making it look riskier to underwrite raises or offer debt. In this sense, shorting has a negative economic impact.

Shorts can also be helpful, such as by revealing fraud. At least that's what activist short sellers will tell you. I'm not sure it's that helpful though. Tesla managed to grow into one of the largest companies in the world despite blatant fraud, and some people even enjoy their cars.

While I think shorting in general is negative, hedging has pretty obvious value, so I don't believe the practice of short selling should be blocked from existing. I'm simply uninterested in taking on large short positions myself.

>>49724414
Le Great Reset has a lot to do with social and biomedical changes more than economic ones imo.
>>49724427
They're supranationalists, a global governance would benefit from state incompetence because instead of fixing their own systems some people would turn to a global system instead.

>>49724422
That would work. I might even support you. One problem. How are you getting the female vote?

>>49724422
> Eliminate all welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing
Speedrunning communist Appalachia timeline

>>49724414
Its germans trying to take over the world... again.

>>49724266
>do you realize the only thing Putin cares for is fuel export? Other sanctions are complete nothingburger
Sure. Worth noting that every month this continues is another month where his alternative sales to China and India improve.

>Fuel export cant be banned with sanctions because it would literally turn whole europe dark within a few days.
Tanker insurers, oil tech, seized Nordstream shit, there's a lot of sanctioning that Euros have imposed aside from blocking the actual pipelines. Those do hit shipping ability, long term oil production, capital supply, etc. And they'd need to be reversed for a return to status quo or for Putin to fully turn on the taps.

>>49724462
>For a short to make money, someone else must lose money. It's zero sum.
For you to make money in you're oil stocks someone needs to lose money delete this fucking post before you get ridiculed.

I sold all my Vanguard index funds this morning and went 100% including my 401k and IRA. Average bear market is -35%. We are only -20% to -25% right now. There is still a whole lot of downside. P/E ratios are still way above historical averages. Inflation is still double digits. Stagflation is inevitable.

I am thinking of starting to DCA back in once SPY hits -40% from ATH and aggressively ramp up if we hit -50%. Does this sound like a good plan to you guys?

uhhhh bros?
>>49723618

>>49724269
Literally the exact opposite.

>>49724422
>Eliminate all welfare, food stamps, and section 8 housing

YES

>>49724472
>One problem. How are you getting the female vote?

That's the cool part.

WE DON'T

we take away their right to vote!

GAYSEXAPOCOLYPSE

I don't know about you guys but I got this feeling they're going to long the market tomorrow when it gaps down

Dont' forget to hedge a little bit guys. Never know when it could pump for no reason. Be safe

>>49724483
they didn't they only wanted to remove jews from their country. but jews controlled the newspapers and fake news them

>>49724582
No shit.

>>49724516
I am stocked with leveraged inverse ETFs. My body is ready.

>>49723966
>How would you make women bear children.
Get women out of the workforce, promote nuclear family, promote marriage (between men & women only), make people accountable to their oaths, promote christianity and christian morals.

>>49724516
Doesn't that mean we pump

>>49724422
Based

Lol futures.

>/CL

>>49724592
I'm not going to hedge but I'm saving these pictures.

>>49724392
https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0819

>>49724500
>delete this fucking post
No, I don't think I will.

>>49724599
Read Mein Kampf, Hitler spells it out pretty clearly
>oh look America won an entire continent with manifest destiny
>I could do that. Who cares if the whites massively outnumbered the indians and had way better technology and production?
>this could in no way backfire

>>49724287
EITHER MULTIPLE GLOBAL CONTRACTS OR HUGE BUYOUT

WHY DIDNT YOU FUCKING RETARDS BUY SIGA , IM TIRED OF FUCKING HELPING YOU RETARDS STAY FUCKING POOR

>>49724599
>they didn't they only wanted to remove jews from their country. but jews controlled the newspapers and fake news them
Read a fucking book.

>>49724625
You realize this is a bullish development, right? The Fed is signaling their intent to halt QT and go back to easing. The market may rally, but bonds will collapse.

>>49724691
I bought anon, I'm all in on gay sex. Where can I see this info?

>>49724691
I bot SIDU instead. Glad I did.

>japanese bonds moving like shitcoins
Yea, there will be pain. Just hard to tell where.

>>49724599
>they only wanted to remove jews from their country
You know thats not true, they wanted everything because for some reason germans want to control the world even though theyre fucking terrible at it, always have been.

>>49724723
Yep. If I get bogged, I get bogged.

>>49724479
It aint' commun-ism, it's a commun-ity!

I probably should have exited with my 20% gains today and stayed in cash but I'm greedy

>>49724710
Wall St funded the bolsheviks too
Proof elites don't give a shit about ideology

>>49724511
>I sold all my Vanguard index funds
>Does this sound like a good plan to you guys?

>>49724726
just search siga and it should show directors converting options into shares
>>49724732
after next week you wont

>>49724691
Bro relax I buy almost every ticker mentioned in /smg/. I have simultaneous 3x and inverse 3x etfs.

>>49724681
Alright then hold oil stocks to the grave sticking to your philosophy.

>>49724548
Fellow king.

whats this about a vulva hurricane?

>>49724788
Checked and thanks

>utes

>>49724674
Uh ok... good luck bro

>>49724710
no

>>49724670
See
>>49724380
Right now they might move in the opposite direction of the dollar.

>>49724788
>just search siga and it should show directors converting options into shares
Or its because retard reddit swarm has pushed it to (nearly) ATHs and they want to cash out

>>49724767
And China.

>>49724788
What if it just means they'll dump them all

>>49724676
Ah, thanks. Guess le iran deal is.. LE DEAD

How do I do algo trading? I can write the code, I just need some API or whatever to access the info and do the trading

>>49724867
then do that

>>49724110
It's likely to be pfizer if there is a buyout, since they were pushing for the siga stuff at some point.

>>49724832
>converting options into shares is bearish
anon I....

>>49723599
Haha, Joe Biden living rent free.

>>49724867
>access the info
but anon, you need to be a member of the Illuminati to get stocksecrets.pdf

The amount of bobos who will commit suicide from the steength of this rally will be inumerable.
You will see multiple +10% spx days.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>49724282

Just realized that as of today SPX is officially in a bear market

>>49724867
Step 1: plug in computer
Step 2: drop your computer in the bathtub while you’re in it
Step 3: reflect on the fact that algorithmic trading is a highly specialized industry that trillion dollar companies still fuck up at

>>49724867
The problem is that there's no good API for that. Trading itself is relative to your broker, and some, like ibkr, don't ACTUALLY have APIs (it's a broken as fuck RPC system with extremely tight query limits in their case). Then there's another issue: data.

>>49724899
if its a buyout its almost certainly pfizer since SIGA and Meridian are already partnered

>>49724906
>CAP Action

>>49724906
Jimmy Carter bros…

>>49724832
Reddit swarm? lol, show me this swarm

>>49724599
>jews
they killed a lot of other nations too, germans are subhumans and deserve to be nuked for their crimes against humanity

>>49724906
In fairness unemployment isn't that bad, which is surprising because that's the only thing left that hasn't gone to complete shit
Unemployment is a cooked measurement, I'll argue that to death, but investors don't give a shit about the labor participation rate.

>>49724922
>seethe and poo 500 confirmed for $400 bottom
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>49724592
How to hedge? Leaps?

>>49724929
There are brokers specilized for algo trading.

>>49724788
I sold today. 1.64->8.03. I will happily take that.

>>49724825
Here is a picture of your Fuhrer flying on a private plane after a WW and a hyper-inflationary collapse. Surely the international bankers didn't finance him?

>>49724930
Yeah, but I don't want pfizer shares. Fuck that shit, I dump my options on the news.

>>49724922
>that Y axis

>>49724906
Shills are on overtime

I've got a massive, and I mean, just massive...
Lego collection

>>49724976
Yeah, if you have access to them it's good. Otherwise you're fucked. It's too broker-dependent to really say shit.

>>49724973
I'm just buying a few weekly otm calls

>>49724252
Or you know, the total lack of immigration in a shrinking population? You know how economically detrimental that is.

>>49725011
Pics you autistic superhero

I dont care how weak the dollar becomes or how inflated we get, I want my easy money. Ignorance is bliss. Bring out the zimbabue funny money.

>>49725026
Same.

>>49725050
What's the difference between a one hundred trillion dollar bill and a zero dollar bill?

The ink pattern.

>>49725011
They hold value pretty well too

Shit and piss 500

uhhh bullbros? dow futures are still below 30k

>>49725104
I still can't get over the P standing for Poor

>oil futures open
>down 2.5
what the actual fuck...after today??

the fuck changed in the last hour?

>>49725151
the war ended

>>49724867
Interactive brokers has an extensive documentation of their API and you can copy/paste most of their examples. I have a working Python script for swing trading and I'm testing it on the paper account.

>>49725003
Why are you poltards here? You are poor and uneducated, was wrong about every political prediction from 2017 onward. Are you that eager to lose your net worth of 2k in the real world? Fuck I wish this place banned all poor people like you. If you were as smart as you think you are you wouldn’t be such a loser in life. Women, wealth, and being educated isn’t that tough, though it’s harder than being a bitchute obsessed NEET loser. Get the fuck off my board.

>>49723616
Hmmm yes bitch
Slurp and twerk you know bitch
Then we do a lil sum sum

wtf is happening to my 401k?
-25% YTD and let's be generous and say 7% inflation for half a year, that's -32%? Like a third just gone?

>>49725151
Money printer go brr

>>49725151
NOOOOOOO MY HECKIN OILRINO DONT THE FUTURES KNOW DEMAND CANT POSSIBLY GO LOWER

>>49725187
>here's my 500 word essay about how I'm not obsessed with /pol/
Okay cuck

>>49725187
Hello seething Jew.

>>49724921
What the FUCK are they doing? They're hiking rates but increasing QE at the same time while hoping nobody is looking, do they really think that's going to work?

>>49724929
>>49724976
>>49725022
Interactive brokers is fine for swing trading with a bot. I'm not sure what you expect.

>>49725230
They might be waiting until the end of the month to do the roll offs, they can do that

>>49725215
Top fucking kek.
The oil baggies are entering GME level delusion,

>>49725230
They're about to be the buyer of only resort for bonds. Hope you bought gold.

>>49725187
Everyone on /biz/ is NatSoc or some kind of dissident right winger, no exceptions

>>49725187
Hey, the Malaysian scientists said this tested negative for mounkaypox. I guess this isn't munkaypox.

>>49725230
Well announcing QE won't help. And actually doing QT wouldn't work either if this is how we react to QE

>>49725227
>Can’t read 3 sentences. Proud of it…

>>49725187
Dilate.

>>49725208
Wait sometimes you lose money wtf

>>49725230
>do they really think that's going to work?
1. they are actually trying to destroy the sovereignty of the United States and any last hope of free white peoples
2. they are also incompetent retards, so when they have power it's like the world is run by Mr. Magoo's evil twin.

>>49725215
thats not what I mean, 2.5% down after an hour after an upday is crazy, so what happened?

>>49725230
They are trying to do the ultimate crab maneuver on a macro scale all to try and prevent another crash.

>>49725151
Only WTI is dumping, Brent is going up. Whatever that means

>>49724921
What a shit show.

>>49725281
BRUH DAT PIC DOE

>>49725326
oh you know what it might have switched contract periods

What’s the point of leverage in margin trading when you need enough capital in your account to cover the margin call?

Why can’t you just short with whatever you have in your account without leverage?

Yes I’m 80 IQ dumbdumb please be patient

>nasty double top on crude oil
>failure to make new highs
>failure to break mondays lows
>demand falling off a cliff in 6 months
Oilbros?

>>49725151
>It's another "anon forgets to check the contract month on his broker" episode

>>49725385
shorting = potentially unlimited losses

>>49724793
>Alright then hold oil stocks to the grave sticking to your philosophy.
I don't need to do that either. There's a difference between buying and selling something real, and selling imaginary shares that you've "borrowed".
I thought I made my point pretty clearly. Trading stocks is not zero sum because a business can continually make money over time regardless of who holds it. I can profit for some duration, then transfer the shares to someone else who will profit off earnings for their own holding duration. There may be periods in time where valuations are better or worse or perhaps some companies even go bankrupt, but on average it's a positive trend.

I wouldn't even necessarily be selling to another person either. If a company has a 20% buyback running, you can sell 20% of your shares every year and still continue to have the same percentage of the overall business that you started out with.

>>49725407
but it did break and hold above the monday low

>>49725151
im seeing -0.67 on the july contract

>>49725270
factually incorrect since i'm here.

>>49725385
>Why can’t you just short with whatever you have in your account without leverage?
It's called selling your stock.You know when you buy a stock and you're no longer bullish on it and you sell it well you're going "short" with no leverage .If you want to go short on a stock you don't own you need to borrow it from someone else then sell it on the marketplace.

>>49725208
Right, so the underlying economy is shit and hasn't improved in the past decade. However the Fed was sending out a bunch of dollars that got parked in VTSAX.

The Fed's now taking those dollars away because they're destroying the economy (the dollars and the Fed).

anybody have any good options trading books they would like to recommend?

>>49725208
don't worry boggletard. time in the market beats timing the market! just wait 10 years i'm sure your money will come back HAHAHAHHAHA

>>49725407
>>demand falling off a cliff in 6 months
I think you meant supply...?
It's the SPR drain that's gonna get clogged with paperwork in 6 months if Biden tries to continue emptying it beyond the current mandate.

>>49725441
And you should be on Reddit

>>49725464
>they're destroying the economy
With no survivors?

>>49725245
I expect an API instead of an RPC nightmare that requires the client to be open and operates on the client instead of through an API. I expect to not get my client to timeout on updating price data because my bot did more than 100 updates this minute. I expect that with the high fees I'm paying, it isn't an abomination with fuckall available useful data feeds.

>>49725480
I researched and couldn't actually figure out the actual legal parameters of filling it back up deadlines, do you know?

>>49725429
You buy some oil stock at 50$ you sell it to me at 100$ stock goes back to 50$. I lost 50$ you made 50$ It's a zero sum game doesn't matter if you borrow and sell short or sell your oil stocks.

>>49725385
You can short stocks by borrowing them instead of buying puts. So you avoid paying the premium and pay the borrowing rate instead, but you exchange that for being at a risk of losing more money than you have.

>>49725474

>>49725493
I'm not a mentally ill faggot in need of validation, so no.

>>49724962
> but investors don't give a shit about the labor participation rate.
They didn't, but I think a lot of investors are starting to care about it now because the covid lockdowns caused a massive surge in people not working or looking for work. The labor participation rate fell off a cliff and hasn't made any sort of real recovery, so when the admin points to unemployment dropping below where it was pre-pandemic its masking the fact that the number of jobs pre/post pandemic has not equalized yet, and its causing a labor shortage.

>>49724110
Proof?

>>49725468
read "Options as a Strategic Investment" by McMillan 5th edition
the 4th edition you can torrent online - only difference is the section on VIX

>>49725552
>>49725468
5th edition is on Library Genesis

>>49724962
>>49725541
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_curve

>>49725541
That's a good point
I guess we'll see but institutional money definitely won't care for now. I mean it could end up like inflation, most institutional money ignored it because they dont give a shit about gas prices that is until it created enough FUD to affect them

>>49725600
I would double check the text of it
I remember downloading one version off of there before that SAID it was 5th edition on all the links and everything, but when I went into the actual PDF it showed on the cover page 4th edition
If they did add the new edition that's cool - I bought a physical copy

>>49725455
But when you short for say 1000$ it asks you to choose a leverage between x2, x3, x5 and so on.

If you choose the x2 option which is the lowest it now says you have sold 2000$ worth of stock at that price (1000$ margin @ x2 leverage).

Why can’t I just choose to sell 1000$ of the stock at current price and then just pay interest on the short itself?

>>49725502
>100 updates this minute.

My algorithm does one update towards the end of the day. I guess it's not for everybody.

>>49723820
Being a bobo serves a philosophical purpose as well. It's important to be skeptical of markets that are overvalued, and to punish the greedy. I'd much rather take the money from rich oligarchs by fucking them with my shorts than give my money to oil barons

I really thought 3300 for the S and P would be the bottom, but we are getting there too fast. Fuck

>>49724110
If I have options can I convert them to shares and if so how? Should I just stay in my calls and dump it on some unlucky fuckhead???

>XLE 2 week sell off blew through its 20 and 50 day moving averages
>XLE is right above its 100 day moving average now

>>49725603
Disproven by the 70s

>>49725501
Of course! Inflation refused to cool down in spite of rate hikes. We have to burn through the economy's surplus jobs to fulfill the dual mandate.

>>49725521
There are very few systems which can even plausibly be called 'zero sum' and a stock is not even remotely close to being such a system.

>>49725655
In the 1970s, new theories, such as rational expectations and the NAIRU (non-accelerating inflation rate of unemployment) arose to explain how stagflation could occur. The latter theory, also known as the "natural rate of unemployment", distinguished between the "short-term" Phillips curve and the "long-term" one. The short-term Phillips Curve looked like a normal Phillips Curve but shifted in the long run as expectations changed. In the long run, only a single rate of unemployment (the NAIRU or "natural" rate) was consistent with a stable inflation rate. The long-run Phillips Curve was thus vertical, so there was no trade-off between inflation and unemployment. Milton Friedman in 1976 and Edmund Phelps in 2006 won the Nobel Prize in Economics in part for this work.

I keep hearing that tune
I can’t remember quite how
it goes
“In Flander’s field
we shall not see the poppies grow”
We shall only be young for so long
Dont let anyone convince you
your time is a waste
We are all dying

>>49725637
dats ah bad bitch right dere'

>>49724196
The Fed was created for one reason - to protect banks from the consequences of their gambling losses. The "official" mandate is bullshit.

>>49724414
>Schwab as publisher of the World Economic Forum's 2010 "Global Redesign" report postulates that a globalized world is best managed by a self-selected coalition of multinational corporations, governments (including through the UN system), and select civil society organizations (CSOs)
It's a new system, a global government run by corporations

>>49725624
Dammit, looks like that's exactly what I downloaded

>>49725627
>Why can’t I just choose to sell 1000$ of the stock at current price and then just pay interest on the short itself?
I guess it depends on the broker x2 might be the lowest margin they allow. x2 is not high leverage if you feel uncomfortable shorting x2 you probably shouldn't be shorting at all.

BTC dumping haha

>>49725421
We don't need oil anymore, it's over. We did it biden bros!

>>49725603
LMAO
What the heck is this?
>a blob and the outline of Australia
>let's draw a line through it

>>49725694
It's very simple anon for someone to win in any market another has to lose.

>>49725493
kek

>>49725798
It looks like when you use excel to do that with random shit, it'll always find a line lmfao.

It's very annoying how everything always pumps in extended hours...

>>49725798
>What the heck is this?
The collective work of the greatest economic minds of the 20th century

The Tigers. Are Coming Out. Of The Closet.

>>49725802
But that's wrong. Are you the one who was trying to defend labor theory of value and zero sum theory at the same time in a thread like a week back?

>>49725468
Besides the books, you should go to investopedia for the options greeks and spread types. Optionstrat is great too as you can play around with the dates and strikes and see how the greeks react. And as a general rule you should always buy and sell at the mark. Avoid low liquidity/volume options, especially with large bid/ask spreads. You'll make your life difficult by using market orders, or using limit orders and buying at the ask.

>>49725628
The first thing I tried was to make a premarket scanner to seed the list of things to trade that day with the bot. Filtered by ibroken at that step already.

>>49725501
>>49725662
TRANSITORY! THE INFLATION IS TRANSITORY!

>>49725885
gay

>>49725653

>>49724282
No but I made a quick chart for it. These are all the big drops on S&P since 1987.

>>49725902
Tell me how it's wrong. How do you make money with your oil stocks without someone else losing?
And no.

>>49725637
Nice pic brah.

>>49725935
guessing this means chances are we got another 8-10% more to go

>>49725385
>What’s the point of leverage in margin trading when you need enough capital in your account to cover the margin call?
So you can magnify gains and losses hoping to make more profit than you would without leverage. You would use a stop loss so that you stop out before the margin call. In the beginning you just need the initial margin requirement (let's say 50% for a short) and then the requirement grows as you lose. Eventually you fall below the maintenance requirement and get a margin call. For the formulas and guidelines google your broker's margin handbook.
>Why can’t you just short with whatever you have in your account without leverage?
Technically if you had 100% of the stock value (so that you could buy back the position) you wouldn't be "leveraged" necessarily. But shorting stock is always on margin and like the others said there's unlimited losses in theory.
If I were you I would just buy an ITM put for its intrinsic value if you want to short something with defined risk. Alternatively you could short 100 shares and buy a call to protect you but remember you have to pay (((interest))) and any dividends. If you must short without protection and are concerned about getting btfo, you could try a broad index etf to keep the chance of a short squeeze to the minimum.

>>49725873
This, but unironically.

>>49725742
I’m just curious

>>49725961
Yes, can't be more than 10% lower
:poker face:

>>49725798
it's called linear regression

>>49723648
>an adult male spent an hour of his day making this picture
kek

new hedge thread
>>49726012
>>49726012
>>49726012

>>49723655
My Russian stocks are doing just fine. Fantastic even.

>>49725961
Who knows. It's fun going way back and comparing historical events with market movement. Like JFK assassination market had a very brief dip and promptly resumed bull run after until the ultra kangaroo of 1966-1982.

>>49725950
It's wrong because stocks are not zero sum. Especially if the stocks are actually connected to some profitable enterprise. >>49725429 already pointed this out.

But you're actually dumber than that because you fail to realize that stocks can also be negative sum (but not zero).

>>49725993
Good thing I didn't make it

>>49724959
>nations
dude there was no jew nation. they were just in a bunch of random nations so he had to go there and get them

>>49725950
Boomer buys oil stock when he is 20, he is now 65 and wants to retire and spend the cash as he no longer has income, sells to me a 20 year old who wants to invest for retirement. Win-win we both get what we want. No loser.

>>49726045
It’s zero sum if you include opportunity cost which every smart person does.

>>49725187
they were right about Russia invasion

>>49726095
I see, the time I spent trading this stock I could have been fucking your mother.

>>49726090
He also has to explicitly deny the existence of lose-lose situations like bankruptcy or asset destruction in order to defend the zero sum thesis.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT’S REAL!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketscreener.com/amp/quote/stock/SIGA-TECHNOLOGIES-INC-10830/news/SIGA-Technologies-Statement-of-Changes-in-Beneficial-Ownership-Form-4-40746503/

>>49724684
I'd suggest YOU read Mein Kampf. Definitely before you start spouting off like you know what's in it.

>>49726201
The players that sell before a bankruptcy don't lose.

>>49723631
Deenz and Beenz is the way