/biz/ - Business & Finance

Is it over?

Good morning I hate Europeans

What are some stocks

4th for cocks, gaysex and anime

The pain will not end until SPY meets support at 333

>Feds pause rate hikes in August
>Melt up.

Hello, what's the ticker for S&P500? I search SPY but I get
>ARCA
>ASX
>MEXI

>>49704252
>wake up in a wooden shed
>eat mc donalds
>shart pants
imagine being american

>>49704280
Was 33% drawdown part of your plan?

>HURR DURR MY DIGITAL MONEY
>NOO NOT MY IMAGINARY NUMBERS ON LE SCREEN
>IS IT OVER
>ITS HAPPENING
>STOCKS XDDDDD

No it isnt. Go outside. Enjoy the sun. Breath fresh air. 99% of people don't care because this doesnt affect them. The world is NOT ending just because stocks are losing a bit of value, virgin alarmists.

innovation

Window jumping season is here mumu. Make sure to send your videos to the White House. Get fucked.

>hundreds of small caps are down over 75% since last year and at historical lows

¡BUDDY, look at Futures Computer!

>>49704298
How silly of us to care about stocks in stock market general

I'm fucked

What do you think has the biggest impact, fiscal or monetary policy? When I think of fiscal I do events in my mind that sound good but on monetary policy, I'm living through one big example. Does biden or jpow has a bigger effect? Biden can tackle supply side and jpow the demand. But non of them are doing anything.

Should we really sell everything and buy siga like Johnny said?

>>49704298
>t. didn't borrow money from the bank to go all in OTM calls

What the fuck is going on.

>>49704280
The fed is fully committed to beating inflation. They will destroy everything else for it. There will be no pause.

>>49704363
>Listening to anything ((((they))) say

>>49704375
"Recession fears"

>>49704287
SPX

>>49704298
>Comes to thread about securities
>Mad people care about securities

Bahahahahahahahahahah

Oh wait- you're serious
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>third world is starving to death due to inflation
>mumus worried about line go up
Pigs get slaughtered

>Market wide rape correction and capitulation.
Hehehe this cheeky market needs too be taight some respect.

Explain why stocks decrease in value during inflation like I'm a retard (i am)
Shouldn't they increase in value with inflation and more circulating currency

how much more stress can the markets take before something big blows up

>>49704383
It’s not recession fears, we are now in a technical recession, GDPNow printed 0%

Short dunkin!! I order black coffee, they put in like 5 creams. Retards.

My heart can’t take this anymore

HARBY OF THE MELTDOWN TOLD YOU IT WAS COMING

What should I do with my last $100 on open

>>49704403
Increased costs eat corporations profit margin and their valuations. The periods with some of the highest inflation in the 70’s had the lowest market returns because of this.
Unfortunately you have received bad information about inflation from retarded crypto bros. Borrowing money is bullish, generating growth with that money is bullish, missing growth with that money and generating inflation instead is bearish.

>>49704394
>Be Zimbabwe
>Kill all farmers for being white
>Kill all black farmers because they are witch doctors or act white for farming
>Starve to death
>Be south Africa
>Do same exact shit
Yeah, i think I'm going to care more about my personal finances and line go up than them.

/futures/ bros...

>>49704444
HOLY BASED

Everyone back on a spree selling off bonds?

>>49704403
The argument always was to buy equities and cash flows to protect against inflation. Thats not right it seems because companies are getting demand destruction and cash flow is falling for a lot of companies now. Target and walmart seeing customers buying half gallons instead of full gallons of milk. That means earnings will start to diminish the longer this goes on.

>>49704457
Sri Lanka defaulted due to inflation and is now starving to death. Retard

>>49704403
It has more to do with market sentiment

The easiest way to stop losing money is to sell
It's also a testament to stocks not having intrinsic value
There are new companies with p/e ratios in the hundreds gaining value and old, stable companies with p/e ratios in the single digits losing money

Stocks are speculation, preference, subjective, algo traded and hype driven
Not to mention squeezes and drops due to call/put contracts

It keeps going down

SOXL is going to get fucked heemed, we're actually going to see a reverse split this year

>>49704480
Not my country, not my problem. Fuck third world countries, they need to get their shit together.

>>49704452
See if you can buy a put on real estate. Long dated. Takes a couple months for layoffs to tick up.

>>49704414
they need to get with the times and just forge the number to be positive like the chinx

>>49704476
Oil prices and treaury yields cannot both go up at the same time.

>>49704507
Hence why you are a pig, and pigs get slaughtered, you retarded cow worshipper

>>49704403
norms needs cash to afford higher prices, and big players don't want someone else dumping their bags on them

any % decrease in stock price hurts a lot more with high inflation, and any % increase is a lot less meaningful

>>49704507
>Not my country, not my problem.
It is your problem when the globalists have fused us all into this disgusting mass of interconnected markets. Once the dominos start falling they don't stop falling.

>>49704444
Checked and sneeded

futures down, i'm screwed bros, down over $43k :(

>>49704500
I would short it if it wasn't such a fucking meme

>>49704480
They defaulted because thier govt was retarded retard.

BUDDY CHECK SRI LANKA COMPUTER

>>49704511
>>49704500
>>49704399
>>49704344
>>49704444
checked

>>49704507
>Not my country, not my problem.
commies WANT you to rely on them and will do everything in their power to maintain that dependence since it funds their own fucked up ways anon; it's absolutely your problem since it fucks you over directly

>mfw I'm all in cash

>>49704511
There's an ETF that's mortgage backed securities

Can't remember what it is tho

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED IN PREMARKET

>>49704386
Thanks, I found it, I'm going to use CSPX.

>>49704573
inflation tho

>>49704403
It's deep theory but PE mutiples get hit in inflation. I'm not gonna pretend I understand it
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/123.asp

>>49704377
>fully committed to beating inflation
>.5
>.75
OK

>>49704531
Looks like you're projecting there, pajeet.
>>49704536
>Oh no my 3rd world slave labor country is dieing! Better give them more money instead of moving those factories back to the US

this isn't real until USAC goes <$10

>>49704549
Except they have never defaulted before in history, despite multiple other south and south East Asian countries defaulting in that time period.

So this market would have been fine if the supply chain wasn't purposefully fucked with and hundreds of food facilities were suspiciously burned down right? It's the fact that we are getting fucked on all fronts is the reason why this market continues to tank right? They really seem to want this to happen, and elimination of the middle class.

It's over

>>49704579
Welcome anon.
I hope you slept well

Brits what do you use to trade? t22 is trash
Fuck these filters btw

>>49704360
Fiscal. Monetary can only do so much as we saw during the first, second and third rounds of QE and operation twist. The fed was one of the largest homeowners at one point after the financial crisis. It still didn't cause the kind of inflation we're seeing now. It was gov stimulus that they injected directly into the fucking economy during the pandemic and after. It was too much spending and every government now currently experiencing inflation was in on it.

wheeee

>>49704579
Europe being fags as usual

>>49704595
insulated communities are feeling zero pain
take the amish pill

>>49704590
>instead of moving those factories back to the US
It's not so simple. It's not like we're playing Starcraft and can just liftoff the factories and land them someplace else.

>>49704297
totally, there can't be a melt up without a melt down first, watch and learn

>>49704623
They had no problem doing it last time.

>>49704579
entral bank of switzerland surprised with a 50bps rate increase
they are seen as extremely dovish, safehaven currency - when there's big risk in the markets, money flows into the swiss franc (and the yen)
when they raise rates it makes their debt more attractive, which makes capital flow into their currency and debt, out of equities
on top of that, if the most dovish central bank in the world is raising rates, a central bank who last raised rates in late 2007, it means that shit is serious, that all central banks will be aggressively raising rates to fight inflation; globally money becoming more expensive = equities down
there is also a real fear with rates rising this high that there will be a debt market implosion, where countries will default or be unable to service their debt (see italy)
massive selling of bonds right now in all debt markets, putting valuations further under pressure
why would you want to hold a bond now at a 1% rate, if rates will jump up to 3%? you sell the bond now, and then buy it back when it's cheaper

>>49704619
That's why I'm going to buy land when rates peak and demand is low and then I'll raise meat and eggs and grow veggies

It's gonna be comfy AF

>>49704586
Bonds go up, margins get reduced, prices come down.

>>49704592
They heavily borrowed in usd to heavily manipulate their rupee while stealing everything they could get thier corrupt hands on. Then when literally anything fucked up the knifes edge they were dancing on it was America's fault somehow for not setting monetary policy with them in mind.

What the fuck? Why the fuck is SOXL down 8% already?
Yesterday's gains are gone because of.... wut?

>europe
>burger futures
OH NO NO NO

LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS MARKET
LOOK AT HIS BUBBLE

[WHEEZE]

>>49704444
NIGGA WTF IS YOU DOIN' I DIDN'T ACTUALLY WANT THE MUMUS TO ROPECOPE

>>49704681
>>49704324

>>49704623
>in 18 months we will pound your anuses with huge tariffs
>offer one time 50% relocation subsidy if only citizens are hired in the future
>give 10 year property tax write off
>they immediately start preparations to return
Wow that was hard. Better just keep giving money to Ukraine or Israel.

>>49704681
>Yesterday's gains
Anything green yesterday was nothing more than one last Fuck You before the apocalypse

It's over. The rate hike will only solidify inflation. That was their plan all along.

>>49704681
>line not always go up

>>49704681
You gotta stop trading SOXL. For at least the next 6 months, SOXL is effectively dead
You'd have been better off buying an old boat than any amount of SOXL

What’s the least painful way to

>>49704575
I dunno if thats what you want to do. Its going to be the last one to crack because it will involve major bankruptcies and people falling behind mortgages etc. Granted that is likely but its tougher to say. Gas prices are still going up though, so its safer to bet short term rates going

>>49704678
Cute

>>49704719
Short mortgage backed securities

Is there any rationality at all in this market? Seems like I might as well flip a coin to see which direction stonks are going, no matter what news drops.

At this point I can see the market going up 10% when nukes start launching.

>>49704678
That describes literally every country on earth dude. Which means more will come, mass starvation in the third world is a legitimate and serious threat.

>>49704715
I want to sell it for a smaller loss than I have now, I know but why the fuck are futures crashing?
Plus I already have an old boat.
>>49704708
What's the reason for line go down?

>>49704719

>>49704585
>losing 10-15% to inflation is worse than losing 50-100% of portfolio value staying in the market
I'm still invested myself but holy shit this is actually a retarded take.

>>49704623
How did the factories get from here to there in the first place, then? Did the world used to be starcraft and it magically changed?

>>49704707
the fed isnt in control
the bond market tells them what to do and even then they dont have the balls to put interest rates where they really need to be which means continued pain for the market
dont even think of longing anything except puts for the next 6 months

>>49704725
All the easily findable ones are already going down. You should be able to find cheap puts to buy on a lesser known one

Captcha:DOWND

>>49704766
You either have to accept Chinese wages or 200$ for a pair of jeans

>>49704760
Joe you sunnuvabitch

You should have some already big guy

>>49704747
>mass starvation in the third world is a legitimate and serious threat
Don't worry, Biden will steal food off of American shelves to send to those shitholes. Just like how he's picked our pocket of tens of billions for Ukraine.

>>49704789
And who the fuck sold my oil?

>>49704772
Id say MBS one is safer though because currently people are still able to meet their mortgages. Commercial real estate goes first, then personal real estate.

>>49704789
>>49704760

Should have sold**

Market rate increases mean squeezing on the most reliable sector (finance) as well as tightening on all companies' operations that rely on debt to function

>>49704747
>mass starvation in the third world is a legitimate and serious threat
Media fear-mongwring pushed by corporations who produce said food amd speculate on commodities does not a famine make. You will see exorbitantly high food costs which will undoubtedly start civil conflicts for sure, but very few nations will see starving deaths. Only the poorest of African countries and places ruled by absolute retards like Sri Lanka will suffer in the extreme. Expect war, but global famine is a boogie man pushed to drive prices up. In 18-24 months this may change if too many meteorological anomalies present themselves in sequence.

>>49704731
I know right, and I found it on smg of all places. Cute pics is the main reason I come here. There was a another pic of this dog on here but it got deleted before I could download. I recall it had a cat in it. Did anyone happen to save it? I really like this dog.

>>49704403
Stocks were overbought and propped up by leverage. Interest rate hikes mean it’s harder to pump up the value of stocks by borrowing.
Our current inflation is caused by printing too much money and causing a misallocation of resources. Actual businesses that produced real goods like food were underinvested in. Instead people were plowing their money into tech stocks, property that already exists and literal video game money called crypto. None of those things produce real value (maybe some tech stocks do), and now we have shortages causing real inflation which requires interest rate hikes to stop.

>>49704740

>>49704784
>You either have to accept Chinese wages or 200$ for a pair of jeans
A modern automated factory can produce jeans for cents. The global labor market is just a complex welfare state.

which stocks should I buy /smg/?

>>49704819
I always recommend steering clear of well known securities as the meme magic can heme you so fucking hard

Might buy a few shares of SIGA since we know gays spread bugs tho

>>49704841
>>49405018

>their goal is to make demand kneel and submit
How can you possibly do that in this environment right now? It is literally impossible to drive down demand when supply chains are held up and everything is expensive. It really seems like they want countries to collapse and nations of people to do something very crazy in a government ran minecraft lan party.

>Cramer says buy the dip in oil stocks
And you didn't sell?

Don't tell me you bought the pump?

>>49704874
100 shares of anything and then sell covered calls

>>49704784
>production exists inside a vacuum
First day in finance? Better make sure the coffee is hot!

>>49704874
ROPE

369

ENOUGH

PRICED IN NIGGERS ARE GONNA GET IT
IT WASN"T PRICED IN REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>49704747
Then why are my food stocks dumping? They must not be hungry enough.

i wish the markets were 24/7 so we could just get dumps over and done with

>>49704874
Check my ID

>>49704683
Kekking

>>49704828
>Media fear-mongwring pushed by corporations who produce said food amd speculate on commodities does not a famine make.
I don’t believe you. This is cope, rice prices have inflated 450% in Latin America this year alone, due to various factors including environmental, supply chain issues, and funding shortages.

>>49704897
I sold. But not enough.

I held my shorts through yesterday's pump, I knew it was fake as fuck haha

>>49704919
You're food stocks are dumping because inflation of commodities prices is due to excess liquidity. With every hike expect a drop in their prices.

>>49704744
>Is there any rationality at all in this market?
Yeah there is. Inflation needs to get under control but isnt. So crab/dump until its under control.

>people unironically fell for the obvious bulltrap,again for the third time
How stupid can a person be?

>>49704765
SOMETHING has to be going up. WHAT IS IT?

>>49704887
Honestly this is about what I'm thinking as well. The pot of water all us frogs are boiling in has had the heat cranked up to the max and people are starting to feel it. The vig is outside of the pot on all sides are running woodchippers, and jumping gets you turned into mulch, so everyone instead just starts holding other frogs down so they die first so the rest can stand on the corpses. Pretty much everything over the last four years has been by design intentionally crafted to make the most people lose the most shit as hard and fast as possible. A third of the populace would happily kill another third while the final third stands by and watches, I intend on being in the last group.

>>49704954
then why the big rally on something everyone expected was going to happen

>>49704963
Not me. I bought puts when it rallied :)

>>49704947
feels so good to be vindicated doesn't it

>>49704944
See
>>49704948
Excess speculation brought by excess liquidity and some macro has driven food prices high. We are experiencing incredibly minimal shortages. It's inflation. Inflation is always a monetary issue. Always. Only turbo negroes in places like CAR will starve.

>>49704610
Monetary policy doesn't start affecting inflation until asset prices go down. You've had trillions flood out of stocks and bonds in the last 6 months, with nowhere to go but into cash and commodities. That influx is way bigger than anything congress did since 2020.

>>49704970
Distrust in government and fiscal policymakers. You find a way to buy calls on that and you'll be a fucking billionaire before the year is out regardless where you live.

>>49704963
I didn't buy, but didn't sell the pump because I thought it'd last at least a fucking day or more. I'm getting heemed here.

>>49704976
Because it does that every time the fed has spoken this year. It looks like they are finally going to tackle inflation and get more aggressive but the next day everyone remembers that the fed is behind not ahead of it.

>>49704595
>hundreds of food facilities were suspiciously burned down right?
It’s either jew lightning for insurance money
Or
Hiring of incompetent 3rd worlders who eventually burn the plant down

>>49704918
Priced in is just cope. Notice how its always extremely convenient and in their favor?

>soxl down nearly 9%
>spy hitting 52 week lows
>in pre-market
b-bullish???

>>49704919
Increased costs. If excess food production was actually profitable at this point in time we wouldn’t even be talking about this, but It’s so radically unprofitable that we face mass starvation

>>49704976
Because what everyone expected happened which means stonk go up bc its “priced in”

When something unexpectes happen stonk go down cause “it wasnt priced in”

This is simple stuff anon its simple science bro

>people shocked when the market goes up on Fed news yesterday
>buying crap like UVXY and losing 60%
>these same people probably went long EOD yesterday on some other trash
>wake up surprised that we're selling off as expected

It's like this hasn't happened the last 2-3 Fed meeting, massive rally day of, followed by 2-3 days of selling. Don't forget Fridays' expirations + a long weekend and you would expect selling to occur

>>49705021
Yeah,bullish.

>>49704976
Because expectations were met. Are you stupid?

>>49705012
>>49704595
There are no more accidents this year than the previous 10 with the exception of lockdowns. Media fear mongering to drive up prices. Stop watching the news you fools. It exists only to drive retail to the slaughter. Then again, I need someone to buy my bags after all.

>>49704590
>moving those factories back to the US
Ooops the cost of labor in US is too high and now those products can't compete. Choose wisely huwhite male, will you build and industrial empire once again but you have to sacrifice your immediate standard of living and drop your wages to Chinese level? Or will you continue on your path to irrelevance but it will be a comfy ride and you get to call the Chinese racist names and act like you're better than them?

>>49705029
So why did futures absolutely crash around 1am?

>>49705002
You got greedy trying to call the top. Simple as.

You need to have a plan when you invest of how much money you wish to make, and not chase the top.

>>49704991
>We are experiencing incredibly minimal shortages
There’s no fertilizer coming in from Ukraine. Inflation is not running at 400%

>>49705056
Switzerland.

>>49705021
Every new low is a 52 week low now

>>49705056
Swiss did a rate hike.

>>49705055
>US is too high and now those products can't compete
If you had a super aggressive government you could force everyone into a trade union where they buy your elevated priced exports. Like a giga trade union with high tariffs for everyone outside the union.

>>49705056
Euro suprised people by putting their rates up and it wasnt priced in

>>49704573
Why would you not buy puts? Or even bear eyes or uvxy? You have small brain

>>49705068
>I don't know what excess speculation is
>I don't know what a feedback loop is
>my poorfolio is going to reach 5 figures any day now
Good luck, anon. You're going to need it.

>>49705072
>>49705074
>>49705081
I hate getting rugged by eurofags.

>>49705081
>Euro suprised people by putting their rates up and it wasnt priced in
Wasnt it just bank of england? ECB is still at 0-25 bps i thought.

>SPXS isn't going up like I thought it would.
>Makes me want to buy more.
I think I might have a problem.

>>49705053
its no longer just a cute little coincidence, it's a pattern made with intent

>>49705127
>>49705081
Nvm.
>>49705074

Ukraine might be ending sooner rather than later. CIA agiprop no longer can cover up the facts on the ground, and surprise Europeans are sick of the war already

>The West’s unity over Ukraine could be starting to crack, just as Russia’s invasion gains ground
>One poll across Europe found a majority of people want an end to the war as soon as possible, even if it means territorial losses for Ukraine.
>There is an increasing level of concern among the public in Europe, and beyond, about rising living costs.

>>49705055
Checked and option C - go with option A on a personal level but laugh my balls off at everyone that fell for option B when they inevitably get heemed into the poorhouse if not the grave for their hubris.

>>49705080
If you have infinite money you have infinite solutions. Hell just let the government buy all of your products directly. What can go wrong

So if the ECB raises rates like the Bank of England and Switzerland shit like Italy and Greece will fall apart?

>>49705144
Macron and Schulz are going to Kiev this week I think. They both wanted peace with Russia to begin with so they will probably start to indicate theyre done with Ukraine.

>>49705144
>ukraine might be ending
Weird,i havent seen much in the media about the war coming to an end honestly.Did ukraine win?

>>49705144
>HUMAN RIGHTS
>GREEN ENERGY
>OPEN BORDERS
>...
>Wait, I gotta pay?
I hate hypocrites so much.

>>49705136
It's a combination of retaliation for the same shit happening elsewhere coupled with pissed off workers sabotaging shit and basic lack of maintenance to save a dollar to be stuffed in some fatfucks pocket to waste on a mistress. More than just one factor, and the US isn't the only country having "a mysterious uptick in the number of industrial accidents" atm either. Although I do mostly agree with the other anon, the heightened media coverage of it all is specifically to fuck with folks as hard as possible.

>that nasdaq scam wick

>>49705144
It won’t be ending anytime soon, it’s a stalemate

>>49705136
>no Salisbury chicken fires
>no domino sugar fires
Why would you omit those? Is it becuse you're pushing a narrative as someone who would be better suited to posting on/x/? Wonder what else you're little schzio list is missing. Maybe the grain silo fires in Idaho should be added to 2019 too. Sorry, I'll stop helping.

WHAT RHE FUCK HAPPENED I JUST WOKE UP

>>49705144
based, always knew the cattle didn't have actual conviction and empathy after virtue singalling support for ukraine. as soon as the war affected their every day lives, they would crack.

>>49704595
>hundreds of food facilities were suspiciously burned down right? I
Tell me more about these food facilities.

>>49705144
it's so gay that euros and burgers set the pace of the war
>you're not allowed to surrender! we will fight to the last ukrainian!
>you have to surrender! my gas bill is too high!
ukrainians are so cucked

>>49705208
Wakey wakey,bucko.

>>49705144
Why do people change their tune about shooting themselves in the foot only after they've pulled the trigger?

>>49705144
That was unironically Russia's calculation, that the West would whine and tweet how mean they were for a few weeks then move onto some other bullshit and forget about Ukraine lol.

>>49705178
The media is keeping it hush but Russia is finally making progress and Ukraine is losing too much ground and troops now. Ukraine will likely cede Donbas area or will be pressured to by France/Germany to give it up to Russia in exchange for like a Eurozone membership.

Futures are looking sort of based today

>>49705184
I actually 90% agree with you. There is nonquestion society is disintegrating at the foundational level. I'm sure someone who works for slave wages at a plant has dreams of burning the place down amd many will follow through.

>>49704252
Good morning, Thursday morning

>>49705218
I just had a quick look, apparently they didnt burn down more than the normal background rate of things burning down

>>49705136
>it's a pattern made with intent
This.
zerohedge.com/markets/another-food-plant-erupts-flames

>>49705178
Russia now control over 20% of Ukraine.
They'd control more of they hadn't agreed to withdraw from around Keev.

>>49705179
kek

I just woke up.
What happened to the green futures?

>>49705208
Mountain jews, anon. Mountain jews.
>>49705238
>finally
Steppeniggers have been sitting back allowing frequent penetrations only to circle and execute faithfully. It's obvious they thought they would just walk through Ukrainelike a door but they did far better against a peer than anyone wants to admit.

>>49705225
without help they would be fucked already so ukraine should be happy to have at least some land left after this.
but they get greedy and even want crimea back now. delusional. I hope scholz and macron put some sense into this retard

>>49705178

That's also CIA agriprop. Just think about the narrative.

We went from
>Ukraine is shooting down all of Russia's planes, killing 1000 Russians a day, and all of their generals

to:
>Ukraine and Russia are in a statelemate

The next step is "Ukraine is losing, send even more money"

>>49704457
>Be Zimbabwe
>Kill all farmers for being white
>Kill all black farmers because they are witch doctors or act white for farming
>Starve to death
Zimbabwe had the highest maize production in 20 years last year.

>Be south Africa
>Do same exact shit
South Africa exported agricultural produce worth $12.4 billion in 2021.

>>49704784
So when you said it's not so simple and you can't just move the factories back, you were being totally full of shit, then. Now you're trying to change the subject as if I can't scroll up. Whatever, loser.

>>49705144
this war will drag on indefinitely. Several European countries want this war, especially Germany. They don't care about the extra cost for people as inflation is only a minor nuisance. They are using this war as an opportunity to militarize. Another dead Ukrainian just means another German tank on the assembly line. If the people don't like the war then they will learn to love it

>>49705297
>than anyone wants to admit
Who are you talking about, MSM has been doing victory laps around Ukraine for months now

HOLY FUCKING

SHIT

STOP FUCKEN REDEEMING

>>49705328
I'm a different person

>>49705238

>A French diplomatic official told reporters that once Russia’s war is over, “a dialogue” between Moscow and Kyiv “will be needed to find out how we build a sustainable peace,” with security guarantees for Ukraine, and the nature of the relationship between Ukraine and NATO.

>The official added: “Zelenskyy must define what would be a military victory for him … We are in favor of a complete victory with the re-establishment of [Ukrainian] territorial integrity over all the territories that have been conquered by the Russians including Crimea.”

Huh, sounds like you've been getting your news from /chug/ again

what the fuck happened overnight

>markets closed for Juneteenth (observed on Monday instead of Sunday)

>>49705343
>They are using this war as an opportunity to militarize
You really have no idea about how modern Germans or modern German politicians think. This is such nonsense.

>>49705343

I don't disagree. The war is extremely profitable for the US and Germany. So keeping it running for as long as possible is great for business, especially since now Americans soldiers don't have to be sacrificed.

>>49705346
I'm talking about Russia. Everyone thinks Ukraine is some tiny little hovel. It's 1/3 Ruasias population with a large veteran population and endless western manpower and ordnance.

>SIDU is a $7.50 stock

>>49705368
>Huh, sounds like you've been getting your news from /chug/ again
Not really. Macron wanted Russia to join europe before all of this. He was one saying Nato didnt have a purpose anymore. He definitely wants peace. He will say that ukraine should keep territory but they have no way to enforce that. Russia has more resources than Ukraine, its just a bigger country. So they can keep pushing while Ukraine hits exhaustion.

>>49705225
$5 gas sucks but fucking really euros? That's all it takes to give up your principals? Minor inconvenience? Ukraine were the ones fighting your existential enemy and all you have to do is give them guns and ammo and not suck russian cock.

>>49704506
lmao
I couldn't have been more wrong
+50% from your 6:48 post
congrats

>>49705384
fucking burgers are always having a day off over niggers or faggots

>>49705343
No.

>>49705396
>The war is extremely profitable for the US and Germany
Definitely not dude. Germany is falling apart from high gas prices and the only ones making money in the US are military contractors who get new deals to make new weapons to replenish supplies. But with high oil and gas and metals, no one is profiting from this.

>Bank of England hikes rates for the fifth time in a row as inflation soars
>The economy unexpectedly shrank by 0.3% in April after a 0.1% contraction in March, the first back-to-back declines since April and March 2020.

UK is heading for a recession while suffering from record inflation.

What are you fags so asshurt about? I don't come here much. 2% down on futures? Is that it?

>>49705414
Countries don’t have principles, they have bottom lines

>>49705389
I would give anything to see Germany rise again why did they have to be so cucked, imagine how many Russians they could kill

>>49705439
Who isn't?

>>49705439
>unexpectedly

>>49705446
The market is down like 10% over a week

>>49705436

Of course it's profitable for the German defense industry. America isn't the only country which has huge defense exports. Sweden is another country which manufactures a ton of arms. For the average citizen? No they're fucked of course. But European socialists don't care about that, they only care about getting rich and laughing at poor people's suffering and stupidity.

hmmmm

that combo of keeping the futures flat overnight only to have them go 2% down by morning was one of the most jewish things I've seen this week

>>49705102
>reeee it’s a speculative feedback loop and you’re poor
That is the dumbest cope I’ve ever heard, and it speaks for itself about your greed. Good day

>>49705368
>shilling for NATO
How is this still a thing? Steppeniggers and globohomo faggots killing each other is a good thing. Any time I see some /uhg/ or /chug/ clown I am immediately reminded how dumb and poor the average person is.

man, it's insane how the pandemic era just turned out to be nothing more than a collective delusion that is just mean reverting back to pre-pandemic. in hindsight it has to be the most obvious bubble ever, but then again that's true for all asset bubbles

>some american general publicly said US wants the Ukraine war to grind down Russia's military
>nobody in Europe wants Russia to win and get away with it, because then they'll just keep starting more wars in Europe
>germans are seething at Schultz The Goyslaver because he didn't send more weapons to Ukraine
You're delusional if you think they're going to capitulate any time soon, the globalists are fighting a proxy war against russian animals in Ukraine. "Whoever wins we lose (tm)"

>>49705494
superboom day confirmed

I’m Fucken pisses but at least I’m not Micheal Saylor

>>49705499
>clown world needs a clown market

>>49705504
>get rekt and run away
Typical poorfag.

VIX fading

>>49705439
A technical recession is 2 quarters of gdp losses.

Yesterday
>10 year yield goes down
>stocks go up

Today
>10 year yield spikes up again
>stocks go down

Like clockwork, bond market dictating everything until yields stop going up

>>49705523
>just buy shiny rocks the state will collect at gunpoint one day
Cool.

>I would give anything to see Germany rise again why did they have to be so cucked, imagine how many Russians they could kill
seconded

Bonds are imploding again. I have a bad feeling about today.

why is wall street so autistic? If prices were eventually going down after yesterday's .75 hike then why rally for a couple of hours?

>>49704918
>priced in
Not falling for that meme

>>49705523
has he got margin called yet?

>>49705472
That's also not really a surprise at this point unless I'm missing something. We knew rate hikes were coming months ago.

>>49705474
>German defense industry
Like what? There is none. Sweden sold Nlaws but thats it. Germans still havent sold anything to Ukraine.

>>49705587
To scalp retail

>sold my DRIP yesterday

I FUCKED UP

>>49705564
>>49705581
What site best tracks this?

>>49705505
>heh me sit on fence me smart
Are you though? Or are you just trapped in a situation where you have nobody to root for because every major political force wants you poor and/or dead? That's not the case for everyone you know

today is the day BTC goes <$20k

>>49705597
You asked why we are butthurt. Knowing you are going to get kicked in the nuts and actually getting kicked in the nuts are not the same thing.

>>49705587
because while you're accumulating stocks like a caveman wall street is doing advanced jewish magic like "covering shorts"

>>49705590

I’m sure he has. BTC dipped to $20,000

>>49705635
it's actually holding pretty well at support all things considered

>>49705598
iirc german defense valuation is like 50 BB.

>>49705622

My OIL is getting heemed holy Fucken shit

>>49705590
To fully liquidate him, it would need to drop to ~4k

>DOW -519
>NASDAQ -290
>SP -78
Holy fuck gains from yesterday wiped out

Should i buy SIDU at open?

>>49705628

Just look at the US10Y yield. It's the main thing to watch, along with maybe the 2 year yield.

>>49705571
The Germany you're thinking of doesn't exist. Might as well LARP as an ancient Roman.

>>49705630
It's not fence sitting, boy. It's taking delight in watching you enemies kill each other.

>>49705368
>including Crimea

>>49705658
What do you mean Holy Fuck? Quit being retarded you knew this was coming.

>>49705664
Or just look at the all encompassing MMMRI

(((they))) trap the bobos on low volume and fuck them over on market open. wait for the US numbers in 6 min.

>>49705666
It exists in my heart

OIL has to be oversold at this point

>>49705628
I just look at the U.S. 10-year. Occassionally I'll look at a total bond market ETF. Corporate bonds and MBS are collapsing too.

>>49705671
I know it was coming, but this my first time watching the markets crash this hard. I can't stop taking my eyes off it.

>>49705676
fuck Glamarrino - he's been wrong since Friday on daily and wrong since January on bullish to ATH.

https://youtu.be/EaNgb5NZ3z8
<3

>>49705637
Yeah but if you know the kick is coming you can at least try to dodge it. You don't just stand and take it do you?

>>49705690
the market doesn't give a shit about what's oversold; small caps are evidence of this

>>49705694
What will happen if the bond market continues to collapse?

>>49705723
Never selling.

Is this shit the bottom or what? what is a basic example of what some of u bears are doing? mixture of long and short shart puts n shorts?

I fucking bought SIDU after hours yesteerday and sold for a loss cause im chicken, im fucking furious

>>49705726
It would be very painful.

Reminder. GSIB Stress test results are out today

>>49705598
>>49705647

>Germany has the third-largest aerospace & defense market in Europe, with 2018 revenues at USD 47.2 billion, following the UK at GBP 78 or USD 104.2 billion (including land defense systems) and France at USD 77.2 billion.

Sounds about right. Either way, if the German government sends arms to Ukraine it's good for whatever company supplies those arms (either direct purchase, or replacement required - though likely they're sending them garbage unlike the US). I don't think they did JUST to help their defense industries either, I'm just saying it helps them as much as it helps our defense stocks here.

Oilbros... we got too cocky

WHY IS IT PUMPING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>49705726
The biggest debt bubble in the history of mankind pops.

>>49705726
If it continues? This is the end of the 40 yr bond market bull run. If inflation isn't halved by next summer it's full-on depression and a lost decade will be on the books.

>>49705752
>direct purchase
This nigga thinks Ukraine pays for the weapons lmao

>>49705744
Unfortunate.

>>49705744
join the sour puss club, sorry guy

>>49705751
>>49705751
>>49705751
>>49705751

>>49705743
>the bottom
Anon.....

>>49705762
it's going to pump until 9:30

>>49705773

No, I meant direct purchase by the German government, bro. What did you think "or replacement" meant in this context? They either buy new arms, or give them old garbage.

All those 8:30 numbers were very bad.
S T A G F L A T I O N

>>49705752
>defense industries either, I'm just saying it helps them as much as it helps our defense stocks here.
Except I dont think Germany gave/sold them anything yet. So its not going to do much for Germany. And the US defense sector makes billions anyway, the few billion that Biden has sent over isnt going to change anything. Its not jets or big cost items like that. Its handheld infantry stuff. Cheaper. This isnt generating any significant revenue for defense contractors or the west.

SIDU is an $8.00 stock
disregard >>49705406

What are the pandemic darlings getting battered that I should be looking into accumulating? I almost want to buy PTON at this point

>>49705861
>>49705861
>>49705861
NEW

>>49705713
Greg gets shaken out fairly easily. His take on crypto is foolish and holding even when you know shit is going to continue falling is retarded. He said he was down something like 32% since January....but up 64% since 2018...I guess if youre happy with 10% annually that works for you. I made 1,800% last year and if Im not over 1,000% annually I consider it a failure. options win bros

>>49705805
i need to start putting or it about to dead shart or wut - help

>>49705666
I don't need a WW3 in Europe, but Germany is going to pump and creampie Ukraine full of old weapons they don't need anymore
also this >>49705685

>>49705879
greg is a bit of a fraaud, nice guy, but fraud - his nonstop clickbate video titles should be a clue - man, how r u so good at options?

>>49705321
>Zimbabwe had the highest maize production in 20 years last year.
Gee, I wonder what they'd been up to for the two decades before that that caused it to be so much lower back then. Could it be exactly the things that anon complained about? I guess we'll never know.

>>49705360
>I'm whiteknighting for some liar on the internet
Whatever, loser.

>>49705439
Think about how much worse it would be if they weren't vaccinated.

>>49705238
Did anyone really think that Russia wasn’t going to overwhelm Ukraine eventually? They definitely stumbled at the start, but that stuff happens in war and adapting is a huge part of war.

>>49704298
You’ll care when you’re selling apples on skid row.

>>49706163
the other thing it will have done is allowed Russia to change its doctrine to the modern battlefield
They are now the most experienced army in the world

>>49706163
>Did anyone really think that Russia wasn’t going to overwhelm Ukraine eventually?
Reddit was under the impression that Field Marshall Zelensky was already at the gates of Moscow.

>>49706163
idiot westerners believe a ukrainian woman destroyed 50 russian tanks

>>49704252
Don't fight the Swiss central bank

Coal bros gonna make it. Russia is leaving EU to hang on gas deliveries. Gonna push gas to coal switching in EU and Asia, as LNG will increase the price there also. Also at this point probably oil to electricity, which is not what you want to be doing with valuable oil

>>49704887
How much UST were you staking with LUNA? How long did that ride last for anyway