/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49629221
Do you seriously think the Euro retards aren't printing a ton too?

>>49629221
Here's a hint. Military Industrial Complex.

>>49629221
Because the Europeans and the British and the Japanese and literally everyone else in the world has an even worse monetary policy than us. Look up dollar milkshake theory.

>>49629221
have to print more bucks to support ukraine and p*land who are always whining for more money. europe will adopt the rouble soon anyway.

>>49629221
lol get wrecked
USA TOP GUN NIGGER

>>49629221
putin did this

>>49629240
Except for the Russians

>>49629259
!P!'Hoo'in

>>49629240
Dollar milkshake theory is fucking terrifying for the rest of the world and it's happening right before our eyes. Nothing in the media is even talking about it.

EU is getting fucked harder by the sanctions

>>49629263
The ruble can't be sold so it can only go up. Kind of a pointless exchange rate if you can't exchange it though.

>>49629221
Europe committed suicide by going all in with Ukraine. America profits.

The euro is to dollars what shitcoins are to bitcoin.

>>49629221
i fucking love it
>t. yuro who getd paid in usd

>>49629240
The UK has turned it's money printer back on. Every house hold is getting a free energy grant. The govt and bank have accepted 10% inflation as here to stay.

>>49629286
>dollar go up be good for merica yo mah nig

you have no idea

>>49629221
Your inflation and central bank is just as bad as our inflation and our central bank.

>>49629263
Russians ironically have the worst. Typical of FUCKING COMMIES!
>but muh appreciating value
Deflationary. Spiral.

>>49629315
In a way it is. It'll be good for America:tm: but bad got Americans. Essentially if we don't want global trade absolutely shit fucked, we're going to have to inflate the dollar. This means we can inflate away our debts and do important infrastructure spending. The bad part is Americans will feel the gap between their earned wages and inflated prices until wages catch up if they ever do.

>>49629288
they were actively threatening bongland over leaving the EU for a long time. now they're finding what it means to not be able suckle a billion pounds a month out of good ol' blighty's teats. screwed on that. screwed on the pipeline. im 100% sure they'll blame both those things on ourselves, not.... pouring money down the drain on dumb EU make work projects.
>a bong

>>49629293
is that the new cope? why don't westcucks allow buying rubles then? what are they afraid of

Dollar milkshake theory

https://youtu.be/_UHPth1xd0A

>>49629263
Why don't you transfer all your wealth to rubles and buy Russian stocks then.

>>49629353
coping. mutt.

>>49629403
There are anons who bought Russian stocks during the last few years, they got rekt hard

>>49629409
Seething ruskie. It didn't have to be this way droog.

>>49629361
>Infrastructure spending
Like build more highways and STROADs to force everyone to give $1000/m to a car company?

US “infrastructure” is a massive subsidy to the car companies, who still manage to go bankrupt every 10 years and need bailing out.

milkshake theory look it up

>be America
>Have no social safety nets
>Covid happens
>Reluctantly give every person making less than 100k $3000 and $600 every week for people laid off plus hundreds of billions in ppe loans
>Most of this money gets abused

>Be Europe
>Already have a huge social safety net
>Covid happens
>Europeans that already don't work decide to work even less while collecting even more social benefits
>All of your debts are denominated in USD because it's the world reserve currency
>As your currency inflates, your USD debts become larger
>Buy us Treasury notes because they're way more valuable than anything you can get from the European Central banks
>This raises the value of the dollar further increasing the value of your debts meaning you need more treasuries
Now do this for every company and government around the world.

>>49629221
EU is in much deeper shit than USA.
USA has both oil and gas, EU has to import.
USA has a much more functional central bank, ECB is a mess.

>>49629450
Nah. I'm thinking more like electrical systems, internet to the middle of the country that's still on dialup, etc.

>>49629476
of course were in bigger shit
EU and Japan are forced to do what the US wants them to
and the US is going to put itself first

>>49629395
What do you mean cope? It's part of the sanctions that you can't exchange ruble to USD which based on recharge rates is the only thing you'd really want. Because there are no sellers the price can only go up. But that's not an indication of a healthy currency necessarily.

>>49629221
Ever heard of the petrodollar?

Tl;dr the value of the dollar is effectively tied to the value of oil. Oil goes up dollar goes up, oil goes down dollar goes down. That's it.

>>49629506
Wow if only there was some kind of intermediaries and the only two currencies were just dollars and rubles

>>49629221
you dumb faggots paid people tons of money to do nothing the last few years. as much as the us tried to deflate shit you went full retard, and on top of that imported maximum shitskins. then you started an economic war with russia, lmao. get rekt dumb fucks

>>49629576
Read my post again dude. Nobody wants any of the other currencies because they're all literally in free fall against the dollar. The only people touching the ruble are basically India and African nations. But if you think the ruble is strong, invest all of your money into Russian stocks. I hope you are right and you get rich. Good luck.

>>49629606
Evading the point. What stops one from simply going Ruble -> 3rd Currency -> Dollar

>>49629658
Nothing. Which is why India does it. You win Vlad. Russia number one. Now let's see those buy orders on the Russian stock exchange.

>>49629293
except EU buys gas and oil for ruble you goddman imbecile, kill yourself

>>49629686
I'm much too busy losing money on ETH to be doing that

>>49629447
seething mutt, sorry that your leaders are retarded
>>49629506
cooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope
your last cope was that russia is liquadating assets and they can't keep doing it, now that the ruble has been just getting stronger for 2 months you're coming up with the next set of your retarded copes
seethe cope and dilate forever
meanwhile the actual reason is that eucucks now have to pay in rubles for russian gas which makes the ruble stronger, what a huge surprise

>>49629800
>your last cope was that russia is liquadating assets and they can't keep doing it,
I'm not whoever that is so I'm not reading the rest of your post.

>>49629221
>made up currency used in countries with highly different economies.

>>49629750

they don't troglodyte.

>>49629221
It's almost as if we're a vassal state.

>>49629834
yes you are, coping shit mutt, you'll come up with another cope next week

>>49629450
Go ride your bike you insufferable faggot

>>49629800
You can't even beat some dumb irrelevant shithole right next to you in an all out war. Faggot.

>>49630104
>all out war
Russia has less troops deployed than Ukraine

>>49629465
>Now do this for every company and government around the world.
don't forget my crypto account, which is currently in usdt and has poomped an extra thousand or so over the last year
>t. bong

>>49629221
Oil is priced in USD.
Retard.

>>49630052
Sure thing

>>49630138
It's worse than that. All foreign trade in just about every country is priced in USD. The eurodollar is just USD. Everything is dollars, not just gas.

>How is this possible?
Finance is a scam and an illusion

>>49629221
Probably more euros printed than dollars doofus.

>>49630231
the ecb is basically a subsidiary of the fed

>>49629221
it's called "reserve currency"
nothing personnel, kid

Because the dollar is their largest reserve currency that they buy most of their commodities and goods with, so when we print their reserves drop

>>49629240
This. One thing I've learned over the years is that no matter how stupid American monetary policy becomes somehow the rest of the world finds a way to fuck up even worse

There was amassive exodus of European capital to America once the Ukrainian war started, and most importantly, the sanctions on Russia were made. It is a big part of this short term boost for America

the eu has been pushing the euro towards dollar parity for years now to foster trade, you can find some good videos on youtube about this.

The European economy is completely and entirely dependent on the USA

Look at interest rates in Europe, note how they are at 0 or in the negative while inflation is at decades highs, now compare them to the US rates, why the fuck would anyone who isn't forced to buy EU bonds instead of US ones?

>>49629496
>EU and Japan are forced to do what the US wants them to
I'm so sick of this Eurocuck attitude. Europe's fucked because Europe makes bad decisions.
You have high energy prices because nations like Germany are all in on "muh green energy" your currency is inflated because you have to print money to pay for a social safety net to a bunch of people who can't be bothered to work.
I mean for fuck sakes France, Germany, Britain.. these are 1st world G8 member nations start acting like it, and take control of your own shit.

>>49629221
because the fed stopped printing and is taking money back while the ECB has yet to do shit.

Chinese Century.... of the Second Humiliation

>>49630231
>The eurodollar is just USD. Everything is dollars, not just gas.
Honestly why even have other currencies at this point? Everything is tied to the dollar already, why not just make it official?

>>49630719
Because these other countries see it as part of their national sovereignty and culture to hold onto control of their monetary supply. And in a way they're right. They have much wilder government spending than we do and they can't do that if they're stuck on a supply of USD that we can and will shut off at a moments notice.

>>49630445
>the eu has been pushing the euro towards dollar parity for years now to foster trade, you can find some good videos on youtube about this.
yar.... im pretty sure this is why the dollar and pound constantly hover between 0.5 and 1. the pound is usually worth more but there are more dollars in circulation so it roughly balances out

>>49629221
Yurofag with entire net worth in dollarinos, where to take profit, 1:1 parity?

>>49630436
>There was amassive exodus of European capital to America once the Ukrainian war started, and most importantly, the sanctions on Russia were made. It is a big part of this short term boost for America
just in time for the cheap crypto christmas baggies sale. nice.

>>49630646
2bf.... America basically told Germany to switch the gas pipeline off. that's why trump was so vocal about bigly beautiful uuuuuugr lng tankers (trying to get europe to buy those instead). the democrats have straight out stated in press briefings that they were against nordstream before getting into power and still are.

it's of benefit to the US for the EU not to be entirely independent of it. because it would be a very obvious contender against the US in numerous ways if it wasn't.

>>49629465
Europe debt is denominated in Euros, retard
And UK debt in GBP

>>49629221
are you fucking stupid?

>>49629221
Maybe it's because the market knows the EU is about to have to bail out Italy and Greece yet again, this is where the EU taxese all go lol

US has an actual economy. Europe is just a giant welfare state

>>49630974
Europe trades with other countries around the world and that trade is performed based on debts based on USD. But again, the eurodollar is literally just dollars.

>>49629465
>Reluctantly
now we know what amerifats do when given even the slightest surplus above a paycheck to paycheck existence
each and every one of them deserve the hole they've dug themselves into

>>49631356
Basically killed any talk of UBI. They did ubi and it crashed the economy.

>>49630646
Why do you think EU is all in on green energy you midwit?
Because the EU was not allowed to be competitive to the US on energy, ie. lots of nuclear power
Only now has the Netherlandsstarted investing in Nuclear, because the alternative strengthens Russia.

We are vassals of the USA. The world bank and economic forums make those GREEN policies that EU states are forced to adapt

>>49629221
American exceptionalism isn't a fucking meme retard.

>>49629311
source?

>>49629240
>Because the U.S. is a relatively safer, stronger economy
stopped reading there
it's about how much money is printed in addition to economy
look up balance sheets of the respective central banks and you'll find UK printed the least

>>49629395
why would they do that if they're already using a dollar, jesus christ you putin lovers are a mess

>>49631716
what is with these dump chimps and their, "supply high = le bad."
go back to your shitcoins kid.

>>49629751
It's time to DCA and build a diversified portfolio. Exploring options during the market crash. Gagarin and Kolnet are my choices for a degen play

>>49631716
Monetary policy isn't just the amount of dollars printed. It's dollars printed in relation to your GDP. But for the US it's more complex because global trade is in USD and US Treasury notes are offering better returns than any other currency out there. You'd be a moron to hold GBP if your international debts are held in USD and parity is slipping at like 50% in the past year.

>>49629221
Because Europe ban Russia oil and gas, so Europe have to spend more money importing energy from elsewhere.

>>49631602
We told you fucking morons back in 2016 to stop buying Russian oil. YOU made the choice of shutting down your nuclear plants and buying Russian oil and gas. Don't blame us for your dumb policies. Or do. Not like we give a shit what you think anyway. Be sure to brush up on your Russian.

>>49629480
>internet
This would help alleviate housing issues too. I've been house shopping and the number of homes which are stuck on 20mb/s DSL or worse is staggering. This shit is often happening even in suburban developments less than a decade old. Who would even buy such a house now? Carriers are still expanding ancient unwanted copper networks because it's cheap and they have a monopoly. The industry needs a slap on the ass.

>>49631858
How fucking retarded are you.
WHY DID THEY ADOPT THOSE GREEN POLICIES?
because of the jews YOUR COUNTRY put in place to make their policies, you fucking midwit

>>49629221
This was actually good for me since I cashed out into euros recently. Means I at least recouped about 10% from November peak just because of the exchange rate.

>>49632018
>Jews told you to go green and you actually did it
That's funny because America isn't shutting down our nuclear power plants. It's almost like a bulk of the green energy policy is straight out of Brussels. Cope and seethe eurocuck.

>>49632155
>That's funny because America isn't shutting down our nuclear power plants
Yes, because they want a weaker Europe. Its in their best interest for obvious reasons. Look at what they did to the Japanese economy in the 80s when it looked like they were going to exceed the US.
holy shit its like Im arguing with an overconfident toddler

>>49632207
You're telling me the US told you to eat a bullet, and you actually did it. And somehow it's our fault you went through with it? Certainly you must have done official press releases where the US government told Europe they should cut their nuclear power right? I've got video of Trump telling Europe they were fucking retarded for doing it. Certainly you've got something just as good in the reverse right? You're not just a seething euronigger mad that a swedish girl with downs syndrome convinced you to suicide your energy policy.

>>49629221
demand of usd high in foreign countries so the money they print simply goes straight out of borders not causing serious problems. usd still attracts most investors as the economy is so strong pushing dollar higher as safe heaven currency

>>49629221
You gotta pay for your free healthcare and lockdowns somehow

>>49632312
>You're telling me the US told you to eat a bullet, and you actually did it.
what options did they have?
do they have a military to defend themselves from the US?
No they dont, and there were hard limits on how large their militaries can become since ww2, also because of competitive reasons

Youre a retarded sheep who takes anything at face value.
Politics are a meme to give the masses the illusion of control, you should know that by now you absolute mongoloid.
Lurk for 5 more years, you might learn something

>>49632406
I'm asking you for proof you stupid faggot. You can't just say "oh the American Jew told me I had to commit sudoku". Prove it. I've got proof we told you not to and you've got shit all.

>>49632495
The fact that you believe the politics on TV leads me to believe presenting you with evidence would be a waste of my time anyway, besides you can do your own research

>>49629221
capitalism > communism

>>49632495
>>49632543
forgot to add, several of the facts I mentioned are easily verifiable, you being too lazy to check that isnt my issue

>>49632543
Because you have no evidence you little bitch boy. I've got a fucking video of Trump explaining to Merkel and other EU heads of state why turning off their nuclear power and buying Russian oil was going to fuck them. Their smug expressions were as smug as you are being right now.
But it doesn't matter. You're right that you're a vassal state to the US. But it's your own fault. Like I said, cope and seethe.

>>49632568
Verify it then. You're the one making the claim.

>>49632653
>spoonfeed me senpai
literally open google you tard
>>49632632
its hard not to be smug when you are retarded enough to believe the narrative that they feed to the masses
again, im wasting my efforts, youre brainwashed and you dont want to dig deeper

>>49632695
Shut
The
Fuck
Up
https://youtu.be/nu57D9YcIk0

>>49629240
transaction exchange medium ≠ store of value

>>49632788
It is when the Treasury yield in every other country is 0 or negative and holding your value in your local currency would increase the value of your debt 50% in a single year.

>>49632861
n-not saying usd wont raise but "milkshake theory" is a bit stupid
its essentially saying "structure x is a feedback loop of value therefor x will be stronger than y" except all systems are already such feedback loops (i.e black holes). being able to tie the knots in one provides no relative sense of strength

>>49629221
It’s is possible because that is exactly what the Global Khazarian Central Bank System wants to have happen.

>>49629286

serves all you third worlders right, america is #1. and dont you forget it you mudhut fucks.

>>49629240
At least EU printed money is being all dumped in infrastructure projects that will be finished by 2026.
Contrary, USA printer money is being all dumped in Blackrock's private account

>>49633806
blawackrocku still helps usa to be competitive whereas eu might no have the best strategy

I want one Euro to fall in value to one USD for no other reason than that it makes converting easy.