/biz/ - Business & Finance

why?
t. NEET

>>49593492
because lefty pozzed tech will be downsizing in the near future

>>49593558
>not working in a tiny company of 15 people where this shit is not an issue at all
I will never work for a large corporation in my life ever again

>>49593051
Already work for a defense contractor. The boomers here are chill and fun to talk to. Not a onions face in sight
t. tranny

>>49593492
Unprofitable startups like doordash and uber will be going bankrupt, meme companies like twitter, zillow, twitch, snapchat, etc will be downsizing significantly or going bankrupt. Many of these companies never turn a profit and survive off of investor gibs.

>tfw in procurement for government defense contracts
I’ll never be out of work

im not american lmao

>>49594637
Which country? If you're in Canada or EU, you could be in a lot of trouble as well.

>>49593051
>mfw work in an essential industry instead of code monkey at meme company

>>49593051
The startup I work for just started making profit, though

>>49594672
finland

>>49593558
What if I start a based, right-wing company?

>>49593051
>>49593558
You sure? They've been saying that since 2008 and yet all they did was hire a larger quantity of pajeets while paying them American minimum wages instead of Indian or Venezuelan minimum wages. AND THE CODE IS FUCKING TRASH.

>>49593051
when they match my salary and benefits and compensation i will. if i join too early then they'll offer me nothing while the people who joined 3 years later will make 3x what i do

>a big chemical/pharmaceutical company,
honestly i want to work on research code at pharma but i'm too dumb and they pay way less so i'll never make it

That good feel when 3 jobs, none of them for the jews, enjoyable and paying decent.

>>49593051
Is a large retirement company close enough? If so I'm already safe

>>49593659
your 15 person company profitable, or do they live and dy based on when v funding runs out and whether they're able to raise more capital?

been there, circled that toilet bowl before. wont ever leave my current big bank job because by the time this fucker goes down the whole world is gone anyway

>>49593051
i work in med tech at a start up that just got a bunch more funding so idk if i am fucked or not.

>>49594937
what kind of work do you do and what qualifications do you have?
i have like no marketable skills besides some shiny FAANGs on my resume. although i think people are realizing that there's nothing special about FAANG engineers so it's not as marketable as it was in 2010

>>49594248
I've always wondered, why do startups like doordash and uber hire SO many code monkeys/hr "people"/"designers" etc when they are just easily replicable web/phone apps.
Their services aren't that bad, yet I think they fail because they hire so many useless employees, move to large physical headquarters, etc.

>>49593051
I'm a programmer for an engineering company, me and the boomers will be fine

They all require the vax though. So does my company and they are gonna fire me soon if I don't get it so I am probably gonna fake it.

>2 years ago
>finds job listing for a factory job
>pay is terrible, skip.

That same job now is paying more than my past office job, just finished my first week, getting paid ALOT more than before.

Thank you NEETS for finally fixing the job market

>>49595067
i believe OP said programmer trannies - if you're not a tranny and can hold your own weight in your craft, then you should be fine

>>49594895
>your 15 person company profitable
yes. I make good money and have amazing work life balance. I could make more if I jumped back to a large corporation but it is not worth it. I have no stress anymore and don't have 5 managers screaming at me to fix their fuck ups by the end of the day

>>49594749
Lmao, you're good. Finland has as much sovereign wealth fund per capita as some elite private universities in the USA have per student.

>>49595154
unironically, most of the programmer trannies i have met have been above average developers.

>>49595042
>hey are just easily replicable web/phone apps
>t. did a facebook timeline react clone on udemy 2 hours ago

>>49595042
Same. I feel like it's sort of partly prestige, and the impression it makes on investors.

>>49595296
if you have a lot of money to burn and you're not profitable you just hire people to fill roles even if it is not the most efficient use of your money to try and grow fast

at that scale they probably do have problems that require a lot of manpower though. i've heard even though they hire a shitload of people there's plenty of work that needs to be done

>>49595270
Every western country has multiple doordash/uber equivalents and they employ 1/10 of the people, offer the same quality of services, maybe even higher, and are not listed on the stock exchange. The startups constantly hire new people for a service that has stayed mostly the same for the past 5-10 years. What the fuck do they do?

>>49594798
They can't work for the gov, and are mostly too dumb to work in research or embedded systems.

>>49595471
>the same quality of services, maybe even higher,
doordash is a shit service (and from what i've been told a shit place to work), they only justify their existence with brand name recognition and scale

>What the fuck do they do?
from my talks with startup recruiters apparently just a lot of backend work. or for some reason whenever they want a new feature they hire new people instead of moving old people to work on it
all these startups are trying to build the infra that FAANG has for scaling reasons...or something

>>49593051
I make alcohol, I'll never be out of a job.

>>49594895
>or do they live and dy based on when v funding runs out and whether they're able to raise more capital?

>not working at a small 15 person company that’s the pet project of a literal billionaire

The company motto is “take it slow, do it right, don’t be afraid to start over, because our runway is indefinite”.

>>49595975
t. neuralinkie?

>>49595082
They're still pushing that shit? How gay.

>>49596060
No. Despite the comfort I would not work on furthering evil in the world.

Also everyone I’ve met at SpaceX/Boring/Tesla work their gay little balls off because MUH EPIC SCIENCE MAN. They literally don’t hire anyone that doesn’t pray in his direction five times a day.

>>49596132
elon companies are viewed as being horrible to work for. 60 hour workweeks for 30 hour pay

tesla at least their stock rise made millionaires out of their employees but that might be a one time thing

>>49596126
Yeah. It's the fault of places like jew York where you have to be vaccinated if you work in person. So if your company has a presence there then your workers need to be vaxxed. My company is tired of the wfh fags messing it up for them so they're basically gonna claim that in person work is mandatory but you need the vax to go into the office so if you don't come into the office you're just not showing up and get fired for cause. It's pretty smart honestly. I don't even live anywhere with mandates but they're too afraid to roll back the policy because vax cattle will freak out

>>49597231
Manipulative bastards they are. I've been lucky to dodge it as well, at least so far.

>>49593051
I'm a programmer Chad making systems for oil rigs

>>49597498
>programmer Chad making systems for oil rigs
Based embedded systems chad.

>>49597498
based. what stuff do you work on? is it domain knowledge (petE stuff?) or is it just SWE stuff?

i hope you enjoy fat pay raises as a result of what's happening right now

>>49593558
this just shows you know nothing about tech. if anything, tech companies will lay off literally everyone else before their developers.

>>49597704
I'm making the dashboard, monitoring pipeline status, it's overall normal swe work. C sharp and Javascript, comfy

>>49595035
>I do a lot of deploys and devops type stuff. Unfucking deploys to GKE clusters, and managing microservices. I feel like i only vaguely know how to use kubernetes tho

>>49597993
how is working at an oil company?

>>49598096
>devops
disgusting.
i'm convinced that being good at devops is the ticket to fast career growth and money though. good impact, doing work nobody else wants to, and you get known as the guy to go to when SHTF

>>49593051
I'm two years into my programming career and have job hopped my way up to a mid level position. Decided to learn some fundamentals as I'm preparing to learn some senior level stuff soon, and only today learned what a node is in data structures. Am I a fraud?

>>49598198
>Am I a fraud?
The first step to excellence is giving a fuck. No you're better than 50% of programmers.

>>49598198
kind of, but if you've gotten to this point then so is everyone around you and it doesn't seem to have proven to be a problem, so you're fine.

>>49598186
Its OK, actually the compawworks for a few oil companies and sells them monitoring systems. Not a ton of fancy shit but salary is good for the country, still not on par with American salaries anyway

>>49595270
Overengineering is a thing
>t. working as a SE for central integrations platform at a car corporation

>>49598588
as an american SWE i've heard oil was bad enough for the past few years that many of them jumped ship to tech or web dev. maybe things change now that oil is precious

>>49593051
all the people that made fun of my 100k DoD contractor job will be seething.
shit is cash, i'm on the commercial side so i can reap the stability benefits without being so much of a government leech.

>>49597231
go OD on fent, flyover tard

>>49594248
Thank god
Lets wind this clock back to the 90s
Fuck anything as a service.

>>49598663
in the private sector i would say that we are worried about 5-10% of the company getting fired next year. but 5% layoffs have been normal since the fucking 1980s

>>49597231
>>49597438
Why not just get it? Are you afraid of needles or something?