/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49532769
I need some hopium lads

It's over batbros

>>49532769
> 2018: Brave reaches 1 million monthly active users in January 2018 - BAT price $0.85
> https://brave.com/update-brave-browser-and-bat-achievements-in-2017-and-goals-for-2018/
> https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180108/
> 2022: Brave Passes 55 Million Monthly Active Users, MUH Huge Growth - BAT price $0.39
> https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1532100051966697472?s=20&t=gfU76AfT9zL6l4pYCwxuIQ

BATTies got scammed. Brave downloads and usage have no bearing on the token. Glorified Ad Blocker. Token used for grab gimmick. A small fraction of the users actually turn on ads - people will pay not to view ads. Advertisers don't give a fuck about showing ads to poorfag and 3rd world demographics

>>49532769
Just bought some more

>>49532769
They barely send shit anymore wtf

>>49533036
at this point im just going to hope it hits 20c or less and then ill buy a bunch

>>49532769
Backing the tonka dump truck at these levels and getting me my savory delicious cheapies.

.040 EOY

>>49532769
I shorted this token and its movement is soo slow like not worthy of praises, good a thing I bought SYLO coz right now I'm on 65%

>>49533036
I did this too and I'm fucking way down, possibly it ain't time for it to pump so I just channel the energy to AZERO and RIDE

>>49533388
>>49533210
once these fucking pajeets disappear, only then have we reached the bottom. these nigger pieces of shit need to go back to cleaning shit off the street before this market bottoms

SomeBODY once told me
this shitcoin would go to forty
I ain't the sharpest tool in the thread

1 bat being worth more than $40... What were we thinking?
Even the fudders are gone.

>>49533456
this. Everything is going to continue dumping for a while. Just hold cash or DCA all the way down lol. BAT is not a short term play.

>>49533897
this is always a sign that we're near the bottom, when literally nobody gives a shit and even the fudders disappear. Actually the next step would be BAT threads just straight up disappearing, nobody even caring enough to make threads. I distinctly remember that happening before the last run-up to ATH.

the worst and most worrying thing about BAT imo is that it doesn't keep its gains, I mean it's almost right back to where it was prior to the bull market cycle. LINK for example had an insane increase in price and also lost an insane amount of value recently, but it still holds on to a huge % of its gains compared to BAT. My only guess for why this happens is that the BAT whales are more willing to dump huge amounts of BAT at almost any price and buy pressure on BAT goes away quickly.

The lesson there is to unload BAT as soon as you start seeing above-normal prices. Hard to bring yourself to do it if you believe in the project, and also the opportunities to sell your BAT are few and far between, but BAT literally always regresses to previous ranges. In its entire history, it has always always regressed to previous ranges. That's why its chart looks kind of like a heart monitor, up and back down, every time.

>>49534105
i understand your perspective completely, but there are a lot of things missing here. BAT at 30c now, is not the same as BAT the last time it was at 30c. we now have 60m users and are on the road to 100m in an exponential growth curve, and all tokens are now fully circulating. a lot of the up and down heart monitor-esque poor price action since the beginning was a combination of

-500m BAT being added to circ supply
-ico whales dumping every pump
-no utility until ad notifications launched in april 2019

>>49534194
oops i accidentally clicked submit before i was finished.

so those 3 issues i mentioned are now resolved, and we also have a ton more users, a search engine, increasing ad spend, and the team is actually beginning to focus on actually increasing BAT utility and making it moon. they are actively hiring and will have 200 employees by the end of the month, and are actively working on fixing a lot of shit that has been broken and improving stuff. i think we were just too early, but the future is looking like it will be a lot better than the past. the only people left holding this token are the true believers, and the rest of the supply is spread incredibly thin over a ton of rewards wallets

>>49534244
Youve been saying this for 4 years

>>49534194
Brave has 60 Million users. BAT does NOT have 60 Million users. Brave users have ZERO INTEREST in BAT.

https://np.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/st71oy/raise_your_hand_if_you_dont_give_a_shit_about/

> Yep, here, at least in the way that I don't care about the BAT rewards. I just think Brave is a good browser and I like to use it.

> do care about crypto, but not the Brave rewards. I have turned off ads. I don't want to make $30 a year by having to see 6 ads an hour.

> Time is my most precious commodity, attention is a close second. As I get older I'm more aware of this, and don't care to pollute my consciousness with ads if I can avoid it.

> I have been using Brave for around three years, never turned on BAT. Not interested in cryptocurrency of any kind.

> I don't give a shit about earning bat.. I give a lot of shit about crypto

> I'll raise TWO hands. Life is too short to spend it closing ads popups for pennies.

> If I could I would disable/strip off any crypto feature from Brave, desu.

> I do care about crypto, just not BAT.

> Yeah, I really wish this sub had forced flairs so I could filter out all the "were my bat??1" posts. Mods, please?

> Don't give a shit about crypto baked into a browser.

>>49534244
The only issue with this, and the biggest issue overall, if all this was true, why would the price still always go back to the 10-30 cent range?
Things are different. Thing have change. Unfortunately for us, it looks like that means jack shit for the price.

I'll buy when it hits ¢10

>>49534372
>Youve been saying this for 4 years
i havent even been in bat for 4 years dumbass

>>49534412
shut up john

>>49534443
>The only issue with this, and the biggest issue overall, if all this was true, why would the price still always go back to the 10-30 cent range?
like i said, none of bats potential was reached during the bull run. just bad timing. everything is down similar percentages, its not just bat.

>>49534443
Yep what that dummy said makes no sense. Things being different clearly has no effect on price

>>49534194
>>49534244
as others have mentioned, so far all of this "good news" has had 0 (zero) bearing on BAT's price

until we're shown otherwise, one can safely assume that positive news for Brave won't have any effect at all on BAT's price unless it aligns/is timed with a positive move for the entire crypto market. And in that case, who's to say it's the positive news that affected the price and not the entire market move?

>>49534412
a bunch of midwit reddit faggots don't believe in crypto? oh shit, just market sold my portfolio.

KYC is holding the token back

Sad but true

>>49534526
Buyers and sellers are what affects the price. We have a handful of big advertisers buying BAT already - what do you think happens when the userbase has 4x'd in 2 years and every fortune 500 company wants to reach Braves' unreachable demographic?

>>49534535
>as others have mentioned, so far all of this "good news" has had 0 (zero) bearing on BAT's price
thats because bat has had shit utility the entire time and has taken a back seat. all the growth that brave has had in that time gives a better foundation for them to make bat moon, IF they care about doing that. i believe they do, because the recent steps taken with pushing bat by partnering with dapps and doing news releases, improving creator functionality, doing search ads with bat, etc all point to them moving in the right direction

i mean i dont give a fuck if any of you faggots sell kek i dont understand why people would sit here in a token they believe will never moon just so they can bitch and complain about it. seems crazy to me but to each their own i suppose.

>>49534412
True

Brave should pivot to useful ads like contextual search ads on Brave Search

Notification ads are a cancer, they interrupt the user constantly

>>49534586
Youve also been saying this for 4 years

Find BAT in pic.

Also, web5 is here. Can anyone understand this shit? No website is going to implement it.

>>49534516
BAT spammers have been spamming this for 4 years. BAT will moon in this bear market because it's the only token that has utility. What will happen when we reach 10M users? Supply shock!!! $40 BAT inevitable. BAT performed like shit in the 2017 bull market. BAT performed like shit in the 2018-20 bear market. BAT performed like shit in the 2021 Bull market. BAT will continue to perform like shit. Stop spamming.

>>49534746
then just sell it already you fucking retard and stop shitting up the threads with the same dumb shit day in and day out

the funny thing is the same people that are shitting on bat would be singing a completely different tune if bat was up +20% today instead of down. bunch of emotional lil bitches

>>49534605
The same could be said of u. How any one could think this time is different is equally delusional

>>49534841
>The same could be said of u
in regards to what

>>49534746
What are you recommending? Decentr?

>>49534412
Which VPN do you use faggot?

>>49534924
hes been all in bat since 2012 and wants to neck

>>49534744
Reminder: None of you have found the BAT in this photo.

Its over

We already know the BAT sui and make it stacks, but what amount of BAT is needed to be a BAT whale? Nobody seems to have a legit answer.

>BAT WILL DEMOCRATIZE THE INTERNET!!!!!!!1

>>49535254
whats my prize

>>49535375
1m+ is bat whale

>>49535639
>1m+ is bat whale
Seems a little excessive, no?

>>49535739
excessive holdings is the definition of a whale

>>49535639
Thai curry (red or green).

>>49534841
He wasn't calling you delusional, he was calling you crazy. Nobody knows what's going to happen, but so sit in threads of projects you don't believe in just to spam negativity is just weird.

>>49535955
And im saying youre delusional for thinking this time is different

>>49535992
you said "equally delusional" when he hadn't called you delusional. You don't have basic reading comprehension, no wonder you're a dumb faggot who hasn't made any money in crypto yet.

>>49536033
You are delusional for thinking its gonna be different this time

>>49536249
okay, let me throw away my money. go away

>>49536295
Why would i go away

>>49536367
Once your life gets better you will. It's pretty obvious you're in pain, from something. Good luck, i mean it.

>>49536417
Youre projecting

>>49532769
how are people still holding this shit lmfao

>>49536456
I keep BAT threads open while doing other stuff because I like and believe in the project. I have a girlfriend, good paying job, a loving family, and my health. I'm quite happy. You sit in threads of a project you don't believe in constantly switching IPs so your assblasted spam looks less pathetic. But i'm projecting; okay buddy.

>>49536510
Then why are you so unhappy

>>49534605
I don't care if anyone else sells either, but I'd prefer intelligent discussion of BAT's price movement from people that have actually made money from BAT rather than just delusional bagholder bullshit

I want honest insight into when to sell and buy BAT because by ALL accounts, BAT has been an abysmal hold since its creation. Somebody is making money off of BAT, I want to hear from THEM, not from idiot bagholder cultists

>>49536672
There are 50 other tokens that are much, much better for swing trading. Accumulating BAT before the userbase and advertisers come in is the only play here

>>49532769
I told you to sell last year, again and again I told you. But all you can do is sperg out, pretend you're next level stock investors, and blame your shit choices on an imaginary John faggot. Face it, all this shit has ever done and will ever do is bleed sats.

>>49534194
BAT at 30 cents now is far worse than BAT at 30 cents a few years ago when you've lost 40% of your purchasing power to inflation.

>>49536510
This. I've got basically the same setup.

AKSHUALLY, that one dude was pissed I was starting threads with "find a BAT" and not the logo. Seems like this proof I'm not here to shill? Lol. I don't give a shit if any of you fags buy.

At least posting here doesn't make me crazy like reading about web 3 and web 5 on Twitter. Holy fuck.

>>49536770
>>49536837
>when you've lost 40% of your purchasing power to inflation

I mean not only that, but the opportunity cost absolutely destroys any argument that BAT has been a good investment. I bet I could easily count 10 cryptocurrencies that were spammed constantly on /biz/ last year that would have blown BAT out of the water in terms of simply buying & holding (when they were shilled) and then selling any time near the top (had a few months to sell)

and that's just in the last year. It's truly demoralizing.

>>49536713
>Accumulating BAT before the userbase and advertisers come in is the only play here

sounds like sunk cost fallacy cope to me

>>49536921
Go look at eth/sol charts. An oscillator like that is something you swing trade - not price action like BAT. Why am i spoon feeding retards?

>>49536672
Someone is making money from trading BAT and paying short-term capital gains. But who cares? People make money going to the casino too. That isn't what is exciting about this project.

>>49536921
> takes advice from biz
Imagine you're sitting in an investment advisors office. He asks you how you make investments. You're response: "I take advice from anonymous people that live in their parent's basement"

You sir, are a faggot.

>>49537042
As opposed to what? Taking advice from bagholders in these threads who namefag as turtles, coomers, and pajeets.

>>49537134
I'm not giving you advice. I'm not telling you to do anything. As I have said 500 times before.

THIS IS NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE

Jesus.

>>49537174
Nice reverse "non shill" shill, but still not buying your bags.

Ok guy, it's time say some words about Streeth NFT Bomb!


>Mints & auctions iconic Street Art NFTs
>KYC Doxxed Team and Audit by CoinScope
>Complete safe personal Vault

>>49537199
I don't need you to buddy. I have more money than you.

>>49532807
>>49532769
the hopium is you should have sold 6+ months ago like the rest of us chads. you still hodling with the redditors? too bad son. i'll think of you when buying shitcoins at 25k and under.

>>49532881
>Advertisers don't give a fuck about showing ads to poorfag and 3rd world demographics
bullshit, those 3rd world shitholes have their own ads companies that pay big bucks. are you a boomer retard or some shit?

>>49537199
I’m just as dumbfounded as you as to why BAT never pumped, but I do believe in the project and I think Eich is the most legit nigger in the entire crypto space. His résumé is longer than anyone else in crypto and I don’t recall him ever fucking up other than expressing his disdain for something we’ve all felt at one time or another in our lives. I’m willing to trust the plan and see this thing thru for better or for worse. At the end of the day, at least I tried something.

>>49537449
It's easy, there's little overlap between the audience for Brave and that for BAT. People who care about privacy, not seeing ads, not being tracked by tech companies, also have no love for random alt coins, or having a jillion crypto features baked into their browser.

At most, Brave's target audience would be into something like Bitcoin or Monero, but they're not shitcoiners.

>>49537766
Brave fans:
Love privacy
Hate big tech
Hate ad industry
Hate government
Probably use Linux, free software

BAT fans:
Don't care much about privacy (use public ledger crypto, rationalize KYC)
Love nu-big tech (web3)
Love ad industry (it'll cause BAT to moon)
Love government (regulation and institutional adoption will make BAT moon)
Probably less tendency to use Linux and free software

>>49537898
yea u tell em

>>49537134
Makes sense, especially when an OnlyFans Miami escort whore is one of the biggest bag holders and shillers here.

you people absolutely fucking stink of anger. i will see you all in the depression phase when bat hits 20c.

>>49537449
>I don’t recall him ever fucking up other than expressing his disdain for something we’ve all felt at one time or another in our lives

Speak for yourself.

>>49537766
theres 10 million opted-in for rewards lol, the overlap is enough. the problem is the token currently has no utility and brave didnt start growing faster on the ad spend side (vs user side) until last summer. last 3 months of brave initiated bat purchases alone almost doubles the purchases made for all of 2019-2020 - they are buying millions monthly now but it still is less than 1% of daily volume so its not enough to impact price at all.

tldr to moon this token needs the self-serve platform for ad spend growth and any kind of utility for sell side pressure to weaken

its possible but its year(s) away and personally i sold my bags when they pivoted from search ads and self serve to africanDAOs and NFTs

>>49538520
>spotted the faggit

>>49538653
Not the insult you think it is.

>>49538748
ok groomer

>>49534412
>>49532881
bat fudders spamming the exact same posts in these threads refresh my faith in BAT.

Do you retards seriously just log on an open every thread you see so you can copy these in and then leave?

>>49538761
okay school shooter

>>49537898

> It's easy, there's little overlap between the audience for Brave and that for BAT. People who care about privacy, not seeing ads, not being tracked by tech companies, also have no love for random alt coins, or having a jillion crypto features baked into their browser.

>Brave fans:
>Love privacy
>Hate big tech
>Hate ad industry
>Hate government
>Probably use Linux, free software

>BAT fans:
>Don't care much about privacy (use public ledger crypto, rationalize KYC)
>Love nu-big tech (web3)
>Love ad industry (it'll cause BAT to moon)
>Love government (regulation and institutional adoption will make BAT moon)
>Probably less tendency to use Linux and free software

Very well put. I'll been saying that Brave downloads/users has no correlation with BAT and pointing to Brave users' posts of disdain for the BAT token. But this is a great summary as to why. This is great NEW PASTA for new fags don't fall for this moneygrab token.

>>49534244
Why don’t they advertise?

>>49538843
They do, they send paper flyers door to door

>>49538843
They have 60 million users and don't advertiser? Shit, why are we here boys? Each of us can do a startup and get millions of users without doing anything.

>>49538843
>>49539199
>>49539234
It’s almost like they don’t want the huge boomer conservative market. How much would some radio spots on the hillbilly morning talk shows be? They are in every market in the south untapped. Luke fucking get on it.

>Current state of BATurday threads
Look how they massacred my boy.

>>49536921
>I mean not only that, but the opportunity cost absolutely destroys any argument that BAT has been a good investment.
Some of the only FUD that gets me. Sank 6 figures into BAT right after ICO. Could've been a multimillionaire 10 times over if I put that money into any of my other investments. Still bullish tho.

>>49538224
Kek, some of you lads have quite the imagination. Cant wait to have you as a fan when I launch my OF :D

>>49539327
>It’s almost like they don’t want the huge boomer conservative market.
It’s a San Francisco company. Of course they don’t want boomer conservatives. Apparently their money isn’t green enough

>>49539327
>>49539565
yeah they need to hit podcasts and radio

>>49539445
sup tp

>>49534744
I can’t find it am I retarded or blind

>>49539749
It's there. Someone discovered it and posted. But keep trying!

It's a lighter / partially transparent BAT logo.

>>49534569
>complying with laws is le bad

>>49539669
Maybe they are waiting until they have more money. I don't think they want to take more money from VC's if they can help it.

>>49538843
On popular advertising platforms like AdSense, yes

>>49539565
Me on the bottom left.

>>49539669
Sup, lad! Hope you're having a good weekend.

I believe BAT in insanely undervalued. The only thing that comes close would be RAD stock.

>>49540059
Whoops, forgot my thot.

>>49540064
>I believe BAT in insanely undervalued. The only thing that comes close would be RAD stock.

Why?

Also, i made a crypto, am goiing to airdrop it within a month or so,

Name: Holocaust
Ticker: JEWS
Total tokens: 6,000,000
Token is burnable

How to get your free JEWS airdrop


1. Join the telegram t(dot)me/HolocaustERC

>>49540064
>I believe BAT in insanely undervalued. The only thing that comes close would be RAD stock.
Rite-Aid?

how the fuck did rite-aid get down to a $340m market cap? tell me more about this please. are they going bankrupt or something?

>>49540090
Not using your unencrypted spyware. Telegram is shit.

>>49540169
>Not using your unencrypted spyware. Telegram is shit.
and 4chan isn't? You think all the glowies can't see you right now through your webcam?

Anonymity on the internet is a joke, get with the program and own a gun and know how to use it. Maybe then you'll stop being a pussy at a fucking TG link...

>>49540155
>how the fuck did rite-aid get down to a $340m market cap? tell me more about this please. are they going bankrupt or something?
ya this rite aid shit wild someone explain, says they have negative EPS though which is strange for such a mature business

>>49540223
Big short squeeze happening this summer on Rite-aid with WSB crew. It’s building up right now

>>49540223
the short interest is pretty decent as well, 25% of the float and over 5 days to cover. for the price its at right now? that seems a big excessive

>>49540270
i mean its at 1974 and 2008 banking crisis prices right now. i get that they closed down some of their stores, but so did CVS and their stock looks nothing like this. whats going on with the stock? im genuinely curious

>>49540221
Go shill somewhere else you degenerate schizo faggot.

>>49540090
>(((telegram)))

>>49540551
>haha, fellow based 4channers. Join my telegram so we can talk about the holocaust and the (((jews))). maybe we can even organize irl and plan to take down the (((government))). We'll meet on the brave coke yacht ofc. I'll even supply high-capacity, AR-47, assault ghost guns.

>>49540617
Wow, good catch. Wouldn't want to interrupt your stay in your parent's basement.

>>49540658
You unironically post like a woman. The only way I'd be more certain is if you replied with "have sex incel"

>>49540275
>25% of the float and over 5 days to cover.
That’s just what’s being reported. Probably much higher

>>49540675
>>49540617
I mean... you do too. That's some paranoid ass shit right there. TG is anonymous (as anonymous as 4ch). How else would anyone ever organize an airdrop?

>>49540675
Only women notice that you suck? I guess all FBI agents are women? lulz

>>49540873
That would explain a lot about the current state of the FBI

>>49540924
I know what you're thinking: The FBI is acting like my mother again... absent!

>>49541000
Don't need a mother when I had 5 fathers

>>49540799
>requires a phone number
>anonymous

https://www.weforum.org/people/pavel-durov

they store all messages on their servers in plain text and have cooperated with the feds in the past.

wickr is owned by amazon

a lot of people point to signal as the most secure communication app but i dont trust that either

the only tried and true way to actually communicate privately is manual PGP. theres no substitute, everything else is bullshit

>>49541430
matrix includes e2ee by default and can be self-hosted

>>49541430
Always use the basic shit everyone uses and blend in instead of using “encrypted” texting apps with backdoors

BAT is gettin XTRA fucked

All you retards in this thread who sold will regret the day

>>49543305
>down 87.6% in SATS

>>49543362
Hold the fucking line!!! We’ll get a bounce soon. It’s not like BAT is just gonna fade into Bolivian

Come on batbros tell us how its going to be different this time

>>49539445
what’s this man’s name??

i don't even think a tweet from muskrat would even pump this shit, brave could be the default browser in a tesla and it would do fuck all

>>49541458
>e2ee by default
Expect the metadata...
https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/matrix-vs-xmpp/

>>49539445
>>49540075
>>49543881
SAUCE NOW AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GIVE ME THE SAUCE

lol

kinda pissed that i just started to get into crypto
>use brave so had some bat
>decide to link a wallet to keep the coins safe
>did my research and finally chose gemini
>after luna depeg gemini blocked access to sanctioned country
>cant get my bat out from that garbage exchange
>almost got scammed to use their 3rd party exchange since you need to give them access to your bank acc
>now they are stopping the 10 free withdraws

fuck this piece of shit and why am i always late to the party
fml man
#nevalucky