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>>49530471
Is this clown show still going on?

>>49530512
They think Ukraine will defeat Russia in about 2 more weeks.

>>49530533
no one important thinks that, you're in copetown because Russias been bogged down for 2 months

>>49530557
My assertion is Russia isn't going anywhere. They will keep the territory they have already taken, and it's time the west comes to grips with the new reality so we can resume normal economic activities.

>>49530597
Possibly if they're unable to push to Odessa like they originally wanted, but I don't think Ukraine will accept any land concessions ala Crimea unless they're on the brink of collapse, which with NATO support is a long time away

>>49530471
that picture used to have kiev surrounded and about 1/3 of ukraine contested
i say its pretty bullish for the hohols side

>>49530533
didn't they defeat russia when mcdonalds left?

>Canada has the 3rd largest oil reserves on the planet
>it still has foreign oil dependency
What’s the fucking point?
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>>49530778
Yes, but with $7 gas and winter coming for Europe, at what point does the west just accept the situation for what it is?

>>49530804
>Kiev
That pic is where all of Ukraine's energy comes from.

Why do westerners keep buying oil from Russia instead of drilling their own? This is so stupid and silly.

>>49530869
How is this affecting the gas price nigger? It's literally only because of OPEC mafia collaborating, and they should be nuked in minecraft first.

>>49530909
also all the stds for some reason

>>49530869
Winter is in 5 and a half months and NATO is currently scrambling to remove dependence. They'll have some alternative, even if its not as cheap.

>>49530471
>return to normal

I hoped /biz/ was smarter than this. The reason they started the war is to cause a global collapse like they did in WW1 you dumb fuck

Why don't the rocs just fuck off to their orc land? Why do we have to waste our time and resources on exterminating them over and over again, like roaches?

>>49530968
>Sanctions
>Reduced global supply
Global markets. How do they work?

>>49531108
>Supply chains
They need gas deliveries by September. And they need to lift sanctions and normalize relations first. So they don't have a lot of time.

>>49531133
>Great reset
Yeah, how's that going for them? They seemed pretty nervous at last WEF meeting.

>>49531207
Russia isn't leaving Ukraine. They own about 20% of it. The areas they control are most of the energy production for Ukraine.

>>49531231
>Russia isn't leaving Ukraine.
We'll see about that.

>>49531259
What do you figure, about two more weeks?

>>49531302
You mean, Kyiv in two nanoseconds?

>>49531231
Who knows how much energy they'll be able to produce while at war. Needing to repair the infrastructure + deal with constant sabotage and drone strikes are only some of the problems they'll have

>>49531208
thats still 3 months, and NATO has made it very clear that they're taking a stand here, so I doubt they'll buckle under the winter

>>49530533
Even Zelensky said that Ukraine is going to be Israel 2.0

lmao at all the ukrainian shills. You are a neoliberal faggot at the Wilson Center or a brainwashed boomer that has to feed off the radiation from the TV.

>>49530471
Ukrainian women supply to Europe should never end. Vladimir, bombs away!

>>49531327
What is Kiev literally the only response that you have to anything?
Kiev has a population of 2 million civilians

Russia can sit around and wait for 10 more years before they decide to take Kiev

Why try to rush in full force onto anything when Russia has to meet the production of the entire western world

So while Europe and America continue to cripple themselves trying to hold together an untenable front, Russia can slowly and methodically achieve their own production goals and continue capturing village after village as Ukraine losses more and more soldiers either to desertion or surrender

>>49531340
>so I doubt they'll buckle under the winter
Winter is arguably when Russia historically does best

Rising energy costs in Europe whilst Russia's own is cheap will be the deciding factor when the snows start falling

Europe and the States can't really keep weapons manufacturing running full force during an energy crisis

>>49531625
This. People seem to forget they got the nuclear weapons out of Ukraine in the mid 90s. Then, Russia too Donbass in 2014, and Crimea in 2015. Today Russia holds about 20% of Ukrainian territory. They will hold a vote just like Crimea. Then that new territory will be part of Russia. Any new Ukrainian attack will be an unprovoked attack against Russian territory, giving Russia an excuse for further military action. This is the way the world works kids.

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>>49531691
15 rubles ($0.000005) have been deposited to your FSB shill farm account, ivan. Thank you for breaking the 4chan frontline comrade

>>49530471
I hate russia so much it is unreal

>>49531691
>Europe and the States can't really keep weapons manufacturing running full force during an energy crisis
They haven't really had to produce anything so far, its all been stuff in warehouses and there's still plenty of stuff left to send

>>49531755
>Everyone I disagree with is a Vatnick. A children's guide to supporting Ukraine.
Sorry sweetie. You have to accept the world as it is, not as you wish it were.

>>49531755
0.00012 gallon gas ($3620) has been deposited to your tank

>>49531791
ok putler fan, kys

>>49531776
You clearly haven't been following the war

Javelins and Stingers have been in production year round to the point where it's hard to make new ones

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>>49530471
October at the latest. Imagine gas prices into the winter into an election year
YIKES


>Today Russia holds about 20% of Ukrainian territory. They will hold a vote just like Crimea. Then that new territory will be part of Russia. Any new Ukrainian attack will be an unprovoked attack against Russian territory, giving Russia an excuse for further military action. This is the way the world works kids.

this unfortuently, desu

>>49531340
>NATO
There is no NATO without the US. The Dems won't survive the November elections with $7 gas. Ukraine will be told the name of the tune in short order.

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>>49531841
>Ukraine will be told the name of the tu-ACK

>>49531809
There are enough Stingers and Javelin systems to arm every American citizen who wants one but your government would have you defenseless while they arm foreigners with no allegiance to your country.
Every American citizen who is capable should be able to take a course and purchase a Stinger or Javelin missile system and store it at their homes in the event of the government going rogue.

>>49531809
Stingers are ancient technology so its not like Ukraine will suffer if they suddenly run out of shipments, they're receiving more complex AA systems on the daily. Also only a third of the US Javelin stockpile has been sent over (going off a month ago) and they can afford to send everything over without compromising defense

>>49531883
>There are enough Stingers and Javelin systems
There literally aren't

American manufacturing and arms production has negative returns

>>49531966
>and they can afford to send everything over without compromising defense
And you know this how?

Months ago the world was shocked when Canada suddenly declared it had no more weapons, yet the country who's biggest employment workforce works at Amazon and Walmart suddenly has infinite weapons and raw resources and 9000 iq niggers that can develop UFO's forever?

>>49531625
only 3 more days now tovarish