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Can I please buy Russian oil?

dinged when i should've donged

Post your favorite "It's Over" images

MAHAHAHA

The FUCK happened in the last 20 minutes? This has been a rough week, bros.

>no toast sandwhich

ngmi

>>49515560
Can I please sell RSX?

>>49515563
It’s fucking over!

MONEY NOT IMPORTANT
ONLY FOOD IMPORTANT

>‘Start investing’: Biden jabs Exxon Mobil for high fuel costs in inflation speech
>Joe Biden slammed Exxon Mobil on Friday for what he described as the oil giant’s greedy reluctance to produce more petroleum.

Get a load of this senile retard. He's actually saying that XOM is intentionally not selling product at all time highs because holding onto to excess oil is more profitable cause they're greedy.

Joe Biden is so god damn stupid, it amazes me every time he opens his mouth

>“Why don’t you tell them what Exxon’s profits were this quarter?” Biden advised a reporter. “Exxon made more money than God this year.”

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Homebuilder shorts?

>bobo wins

>>49515563

Be honest have you ever had a gay experience?

>>49515574
>>49515560

Buying Russian stocks has got to have been one of the fastest and most complete boggenings /smg/ has seen

>>49515563
FUCK THIS

>>49515570

Got to go look at what the latest selection is. Thank you Cathie wood.

>>49515611
Why? If it ever trades again I get 20x what I put in.

>>49515595

He's got to blame someone and his base will eat that right up

best day ever

Up 2.64% today. You anons did buy gold when I told you to yesterday, right?

>>49515638

No, I got fucked today in a not good way

Up 17% today. New record high

>>49515636
EZ lunch money

+40%

2nd best day of all time

uvxy calls went 300%

bought more siga

have a good weekend

>>49515595
since 2008 crash the S&P has outperformed XOM by 5x
How fucking dumb are these people?

>>49515682
I bought puts at market close yesterday and sold this morning I wish i went all in.

Meow

>Some monkeyp*x patients also have sexually transmitted diseases, CDC says
>CDC Director Rochelle Walensky, in a call with reporters Friday, said some patients with monkeyp*x also had syphilis, herpes, gonorrhea or chlamydia infections.

More dangerous than Covid, when are we shutting down the economy?

Mumus we will get through this. Cheer up with a gourmet sandwich using complimentary ketchup packets

>>49515720
I kneel.

>>49515610
men have come on to me a few times in my life.
It's gay that I never beat the shit out of one for it.

>>49515730
Looks like we need some M-pox stimmies, to fight inflation!

>Tesla files for 3-for-1 stock split

Uh oh

>>49515730
homosexuality is dangerous. we should eradicate it.

>>49515720
>5 figure day
satisfactory

so now that the stock market is over forever, what are you planning to do with your free time? for me it's assetto corsa and the outdoors

>>49515595
I wonder if he has any idea how much money AAPL makes, while monopolistically cutting out 3rd party ads, and charging a 30% fee on all apps and blocking 3rd party app stores simply because they can (note that this is the exact thing Microsoft got slammed with antitrust action on 2 decades ago).

It's pretty hilarious how much effort the modern democrat party puts into villainizing these historic, aggressively competitive industries that are absolutely essential to all aspects of modern life, while simultaneously actively protecting the complete moral decay of all the "clean" economic sectors that are built on top.
Democracy has been a failed idea.

>>49515777
>only 3
LOL

>>49515720
Tell me your secrets, Mr Cat

>>49515730
And yet the fags won't get stigmatized like the purebloods have been.

>>49515777
Incredibly bullish and obvious

>>49515779
why would you say that Anon?

>Tesla seeks shareholder approval for 3-1 split
Lamo he's getting desperate.

>>49515716
>I wish i went all in.
kek. You won't last long with that mind set.

>>49515792
a very balanced mixture of autism and retardation.

>>49515777
Checked. This hollow ploy has always caught dumb money, until now...

>>49515777
it's unbelievable that this shit company hasn't dropped to $75 by now. they're trying to frontrun the drop so their retarded retail flock of sheep buy in "cheap"

>>49515563

>>49515813
It will actually work though. I have no long position in Tesla but we all know people will buy the "cheap" shares. It only got to 1000 because of the split

Well that was one of my best daily returns ever but I was anticipating another move up before dumping resumed so I didn't reposition fully. Still up $4000, feels good after the retard bull rally

I made $52k this week. And I still feel poor as hell.

>>49515801
Wrong board

I SWEAR the next time we pump i'm buying puts. I promise, Bobo.

>>49515866
>t seething mudblood

>>49515777
Smart.
The whole point of these stock splits is to trick retards into thinking the stocks are cheap by removing the mental anchoring bias towards past share values.
It actually works too, crazy as it sounds.

>>49515854
>It only got to 1000 because of the split
Agree. Although I think he should have done a 4 or 5 for 1. To make It in 100s.

>>49515821
Me on the top.

>>49515527
You guys are getting bread?

>>49515866
kek

Hi fellas, absolute retard noob here. If TQQQ were to fall to crazy lows in the near future, what would the reasons not to go all in? I cannot see risks apart from fees due to crabbing, but the upside is huge. Pls no bully.

>cons: I am being heemed financially
>pros: I have a full head of hair and am not balding

>>49515563
I think it might really be ogre this time for good

>>49515936
It can always go lower. Think 99% down is bad? It can hit 99.999% down. Due to compounding, it means you'll never make it out of the hole no matter how well it performs from there. If you DCA instead though then yes, that's fine to do.

SIGASISTAS
what happened? Did Rocker buy again?
I'm down 10% again

>>49515936
that if this is a 70s style bear market coming up, it'll take 25 years for a 3x to make back the losses due to decay.

>>49515560
Already got 160 LUKOY and 1500 Sibir bank, you faggots missed the last chance to wealth that your own government stole from you with sanctions

>made 4800 this week
>lost 1000 of it this week
Such is life.

>>49515984
I won't start buying until it's down 99%

Split to hide the insolvency

Will shipping stocks ever recover?
Wish I stayed on my tractor instead of buying stocks...

>>49515936
Just buy at the very bottom, after that its easy and you can apply this to every stock with infinite leverage to become super rich

>>49516001
Well technically sanctions are what made it cheap in the first place. So technically the government gave you the gift and took it

>>49515956
#majorcope

>>49516016
Conversely you might never start buying then. This is the second risk.

>>49516031
Shipping stocks are a meme. Nearly none of them are worth holding even temporarily. They are all crazy scummy and dilute to hell any chance they get. Also all their books are permanently doctored.

>when you get ass fucked but get a divvy

>>49515936
>I cannot see risks apart from fees due to crabbing, but the upside is huge. Pls no bully.
Start studying economics pic related.
Eventually you will see the risks.

TSM tanked again. Get this shit while you can it's still less than $90

TSM
>$88
>PE is 4.56
>trailing 12 month revenue is $61 billion

NVidia
>$169
>PE is 48
>trailing 12 month revenue is barely $29 billion

The world is sleeping so fucking hard on this stock.

>As interest rates have risen, reducing the present value of future profits, a company’s ability to generate cashflows today has become relevant again
I just spent like 45min googling and reading about present value and discount rates and I still don't get what the fuck this means. Anyone?

>>49516031
Depends on what kind of shipping. Baltic dry index and container rates are both going down
But tanker gang is eating good right now.

>>49516126
t. inbred

>>49516164
cope hard western taiwan

>>49516159
Means companies have to ditch their gay propaganda and start being vampires again

>>49516159
Ignore that shit, like anything else you'll find online it's all bullshit so good goyim like you spend all your life losing money. The only thing that matters is whether line goes up or down.

>>49515571
Well get ready because we’re about to finally head off the ledge. Inflation came back worse.

>>49516126
I bought some an hour ago

What’s the point of buying a stock before a split? Explain it to me?

Because if your 1 GOOG goes to 20, but it’s still the same dividend right? I don’t get the point

>>49516233
It doesn't matter anymore with fractional shares. Before it used to matter because poor retail could afford 1 whole share at 3k so splitting would allow them to add more money to the stock

>>49516126
>investing in a company that will go to $0 once China takes it for themselves

Braindead. Taiwan companies are worthless. China will take them all for free within 5 years. America is too afraid to even directly stop Russia. Nobody will do anything to help Taiwan.

>>49515527
Not funny. People are actually struggling while you faggots go "who us."
Not everyone is subsidized by the government for their willingness to subvert human rights.

>>49516233
>(((dividend)))
lol
Anyway the point is that poor retailtards tend to flock to good companies that are getting cheaper except not due to line going down. It's psychological.

>>49516192
>>49516194
you can just say you don't know

>>49515936
>>49515984
>>49515999
>>49516035
>>49516109
>>49516016
When etfs like tqqq hit an extreme low, it reverse splits to maintain over $5 to keep the listing on the exchange. Exchanges have a minimum of $5 share price. You won't just be down 99% but it can keep rising your cost basis with each reverse split that you would need near infinite gains to break even..

>>49516282
Lower share prices do make options cheaper to buy though, and options can't be fractured

>>49516126
China taking Taiwan is just a matter of time. Western weapon reserves are already being depleted due to the war in the Ukraine, they won’t be able to do anything to China. If they try to sanction China, the entirety of USA will crash and burn

>>49516304
Congrats on your sub-0 IQ, retard. But remind me again, who asked?

>>49516282
not every broker does fractional shares. in fact only the meme ones do.
>>49516327
yeah but doesnt NVDA get their chips from taiwan? meaning NVDA needs to come way way down.

>>49516313
True, true

>>49516306
That's not how splits work, retard. Jesus christ it's like a kindergarten in here.

>>49515527
What’s the catalyst for Monday SPY opening red? Could the CPI data drive it down further? The fed thing isn’t until Monday. I probably should’ve closed my put position

Is it finally over? Are we safe from a societal collapse for another week?

>>49516327
>Western weapon reserves are
Only stuff like javelins. Which aren't needed for Taiwan. All that needs is jets. If anything Ukraine showed that Russia can't beat nato equipment and the US is able to effectively track every communication signal out there and assassinate particular officers. China won't do anything. They're playing the long game.

>>49516359
>fed thing isn’t until Monday
I meant Wednesday. FUCK!

>>49516357
Yes it is. With each reverse split your cost basis rises. If tqqq hits $5 and then does a 20-1 reverse split your cost basis is now 20x higher. If tqqq continues to go down and splits again and so on...

>>49516289
>>49516327
>believing China has the balls to take Taiwan let alone win
China has never even fought in a war. And you think they can pull off the greatest military naval invasion in human history? On an island that is mostly mudflats and mountains?
>>49516345
Everyone gets their chips from TSM. If TSM went tits up even Apple would be fucked. Everyone would

>>49515936
Churn your brain a little, if you're expecting TQQQ to fall to crazy lows in the near future, as I am in six months to a year. Then why not buy SQQQ instead?

All in SQQQ very biased

>>49516359
>>49516378
I see a green continuation into tuesday personally. then we take the next leg down.

>>49516385
And what happens to the number of shares and therefore the actual value of the position and your overall p/l?
Fucking moron for fuck's sake it's not rocket science.

holy shit what happened today? i thought we'd keep crabbing forever. sounds like this is a bear market for real.

>>49515888
Yeah kind of based. All stocks should automatically split every day so they're $1 stablecoins.

>SOXL $18.82

>>49516306
BULZ rip

>>49516411
CPI spooked the market

>>49516409
Your number of shares decreases and the price adjusts. Dude your cost basis Is moved with a stock split retard. A stock that keeps reverse splitting would keep rising your cost basis to above any price it could even reach. Tqqq could be at 40 and your cost basis is at 500.

>>49516304
Means the time value of money is skyrocketing. Relying on debt will be harder because the fv will have to beat the interest rate.

>>49516096
ZIM was $15 in early 2021, and proceeded to pay out >15 dollars in dividends the following 12 months. The value is real.
There are plenty of shipping companies that you can buy at certain times and comfortably return more than your investment. The only reason people think they're scams is due to the high volatility. As a cyclical industry, they tend to get overbought or oversold at different points in the cycle.

It's not that ZIM is a trash company, it's that retards were bidding it past $80 a few months ago despite knowing that the post-covid wave of shipping backlogs would eventually end, and despite knowing the fed would hike rates to the point that the economy stalls out and highly leveraged business get fucked up with refinancing costs (or outright bankruptcy).
Of course, some shipping companies are total scams (DRYS was an obvious one), but some tech companies are also total scams (think NKLA).

Shipping is hard because on the surface there's a defined value of the assets, a defined profit expectation over the lifetime of the vessels, and then there's debt risks and operating costs. These factors can mostly be modelled, so there aren't many suckers out there that'll cause some greater fool bubble chain and bid the assets infinitely above NAV. If you overpay, you just lose.
Then there's other timing risks like due to long wait times for new build orders. There's heavy correlation to unpredictable world events. There's a continuous stream of bullshit eco regulations that make old ships less effective to keep using (or just straight up scrap). Even that scrap value is variable, depending on the steel market.

Shipping is hard. I don't think any shipping sectors are particularly good investments at the current moment, although dirty tankers and particularly VLCCs could see upside if oil supply actually ramps higher in the coming months. Stocks like FRO, DHT, EURN make for a good pair hedge in a long oil E&P heavy portfolio in my view.

>>49516389
>greatest military naval invasion in human history
Kek

>>49516426
I hope it goes lower.

>>49516490
It would have to be significantly stronger than DDay

>>49516327
If chinktoids get sanctioned or even better trade embargoed, their gutter oil saturated dogshit country will collapse in a matter of days. Their economy will get raped 100x faster than the west because it's entirely based on being our cheap shoe+solar panel factory. The chinktoid economic dominance could've been erased from the face of the earth at literally any moment for the last decades, if it weren't for the greed of globalist capitalism.

>>49515936
As a total noob should be building a foundation before worrying about leverage plays. The issue has very little to do with the ETF and more to do with your ability to hold on through the swings. If you are just starting then you should me buying things such as VOO, VTI, SPY or even a Global Market ETF. These will move slower but are essentially the only proven way to profit as you are betting on the market instead of trying to beat it. Once you are set with that foundation you can pretty much do what ever you want.

I will say this if you plan to buy TQQQ buy QQQ. QQQ is a longer hold and unlike TQQQ actually pays out a dividend meaning you can take advantage of compounding interest.

>>49516159
Basically companies have to actually make money and be profitable.

>>49515563

why is everything so expensive AND market is red. it should be one or the other.

>>49516521
>zoomer learns why inflation is evil

>>49516456
Thanks. So basically if interest rates are 4%, then that means the difference between the future value of the money just got reduced by that amount/increase delta?

It is 95F. I would trade all my money to live in the Maunder minimum.

>>49515865
Cuz that is poor money, esp on a move like today.

>>49516520
>its over
>(your life)

>>49515527
If crude can stay above $120 before closing, that's really bullish.
>>49516490
He's kinda right desu. An amphibious invasion of Taiwan would be much bigger than D-Day and be more like Okinawa or some of the larger battles in the Pacific, except if the Japs had modern weapons.
It'd be an absolutely bloody fight.

5 years ago oil was even more expensive than now. but gas was below $3. wtf is different now??

>>49516557
I don't see china doing amphibious without first dishing out a few rounds of tenderizers all over to make the landing smooth.

>be Madoff
>defraud investors in billions of dollars
>150 years in prison

>be Luna crypto developer
>defraud investors in your shitcoin in billions of dollars
>creates Luna 2.0
>doesn't get arrested

???????

>>49516559
>5 years ago oil was even more expensive than now. but gas was below $3. wtf is different now??
Because it wasn't more expensive. Oil was at $60ish.

>>49516559
>what is inflation?

I’m up 300% for the week. I’m gonna make a monster portfolio that rivals CLF tranny so you all seethe when I post

>>49516559
Take a look at 3-2-1 crack spread
Not building any refineries in 30 years is starting to have some effect
You are buying a refined product, not the crude oil. The crude oil is what refineries buy.

>>49516559
Well COVID knocked out half our refining capacity.

Wokeists also threw a tantrum about Russia, which threw sanctions on about 10% of oil and gas production.

>>49516541
Discount cash flow accounting is pretty much pure bullshit. I wouldn't read too much into it.
While inflation increases discount rate (because inflation makes future dollars worth less), inflation also increases potential future returns (because the dollars will be worth less, duh). It all cancels out. It's pointless.

>>49516590
the deference is madoff ripped off a bunch of (((rich people)))

>>49516557
It would also take many months to just prepare for it. Just like how we saw Russia amazing forces on its border with Ukraine. But this would have to be dramatically bigger and more obvious because of the build up of naval forces. It would take the better part of a year and would be seen by every spy satellite in the world. We'd have all the time in the world to move supplies and defenses to Taiwan as well as put our navy in position. Not to mention Taiwan fortifying the beaches.
>>49516588
100% they would use air superiority but America and possibly even Japan giving support would make their sortie casualty rate skyrocket. It's a defending commander's wet dream.

>>49516559
Poopin' with Putin.

>>49516629
there are no (((rich people))) in crypto?

retard

>>49516126
why are jacked taiwanese boys so good at making chips

Today sucked.. No spare green handy to go on a buying spree with.. Fucking hell... Had to spend my green on a couple of new HDDs for my servers. (What?, it was either replace the failing drives or watch my 20 year old plus porn,music,movie,etc collections go down the shat pipe)

>>49516644
America 100% won't get involved. Japan may. Perhaps sk? I think india actually won't anymore thanks to russia.

>>49515975
Holykek this image hahahaha

>>49516644
It would be bloody for America too. It has been nearly 100 years since America fought a near peer power.

>>49516714
Kek China isn't a near peer rival. They still can't even make jet engines. And the tranny isn't in the military, although it is degenerate still and should be removed from society.

>>49516627
thanks

So where is that "it will be flat at close" anon?

>some people unironically thought the market would go up

MY 401K

>>49516663
In luna? New money only I imagine. Not old money with connections.

>he still hasnt bought CCXI

>>49515563

>>49515638
fuck you and fuck your jew master. gold shill. death to all kike rats!

>>49516739
>They still can't even make jet engines.
kek, neither can we.

GAY SEX BROS, ONLY 100 MORE CASES OF GAYPOX TODAY. ENJOY YOUR BAGS

>>49516588
No doubt, nonetheless it'd be bloody. Not only do the Chinese have to successfully establish a beach head then move inland, they'd have to figure out wtf to do when they get to extremely densely populated modern cities. It would turn really quickly from amphibious combat to urban combat.
>>49516644
>many months to just prepare for it
They have been imo, at least they've started to. Their airforce has been probing Taiwan's airspace for months and have been doing bigger and bigger flybys.
It's not like Ukraine though, it's an island. Just as easily as we could see China's building they could see us arming them during a conflict. I'm sure the Chinese would blockade their ports like Russia is doing in Ukraine.
Although, I do think it'd be a surprise attack with little warning which would be hard to pull off.

>>49516763
>he ignored all the signs

>>49516557
>oil closed above $120
bullish for barons

So how's next week looking?
Im thinking it's gonna dump twice todays after the fed's meeting

>>49516802
I don't think china gives that much of a shit. They'll bomb taiwanese civilians if that makes it easy on them.

>>49516763
>>49516829
>why didnt I listen?

>>49515563
I have a few

>>49516788
>1 airframe failed
>equivalent to an entire country's inability to produce jet engines
Come on man you can hate the f35 all you want but as a whole they all work. China can't get any engines to work and has to import all their food. Remove the food source and poof they go back to to pre industrial society.

>>49516846
I go back and forth on this. I do think they'd want to preserve as much as they can, but I also agree they don't give a fuck and would kill millions (and have millions of their own killed) to take Taiwan. They see it as a prolonged extension of their civil war.
It'd be like the Confederacy owning the Puerto Rico or something lol.

>>49515985
We were starting to run until someone got spooked and started ubershorting the spike. Look at this thing, we are ready to fucken pop at any news.
Just waiting for these nerdy fucken scientists to release info about their European Union deals.

I have a cigar and fine bottle of scotch ready to go for when it gets into a Hedge Fund's office or they close down the trading floor in New York.

>20% sqqq 80% cash

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/COSA-GasPrices-Full-Report-0531.pdf
What are the market implications for when dems lose control of the senate and house during midterms?
Bearish or bullish for oil? Is it even possible for tech to recover at this point before falling off a cliff first?

>>49515563

>>49516915
If you're that much in cash, why not put 10% or even 5% into something oil related?

>>49516910
>>49516846
they've been infiltrating positons of power for years. when it happens there will be a lot of sabotage internally IMO, but I am just an autistic faggot.

Uh from looking at the map Taiwan is so close to china that it looks like all china would have to do is simply drop a shit load of mortar shells and be done with it. No planes or troop landings required.

>>49516836
Well the pattern lately seems to be crab until fed meeting, pump immediately after meeting (whether or not what is said is bullish, it pumps either way after the meeting because people are retarded), then dumpage resumes.

>>49516902
changs are uppity today

All my stocks are green after hours. That was a satisfying rape today. Very nice.

>>49516846
If they bomb Taiwan they'll rek the infrastructure they're trying to capture, not like there's anything else of value there. Plus Taiwan will scorched earth their own industry rather than let chinks have them, it'll either be a meat grinder or a sanction-inducing warcrime with 0 returns of investment.

Attacking Taiwan would be unbelievably retarded and risky, but then again chinks are unbelievably retarded and place 0 value on human life.

>>49516290
Shut up nigga lmao

when will we get back to normal, to 2016-2020 type of market?

>>49516989

>>49516902
>as a whole they all work.

>>49516989
Lol

>>49516902
The F35, in terms of cost, is the worst military creation in the last 100 years. A worse F22 raptor with aging tech that will be redundant in under 20 years, costing us an untold fortune to produce.

>>49516928
>when
That'd be in November, and the seasonality of oil implies it'd likely already be way down from whatever the fuck it peaks at.
But I guess it'd be slightly bearish, yet I doubt they'll have the power to do that much.
>>49516983
>Taiwan will scorched earth their own industry
If they do that, then the Chinese will go all out imo.
>>49516935
That would be a crazy outcome actually. Pretty much everyone expects a war.

>>49516989
never. boomers wrecked everything forever

>>49516934
because I don't understand oil, and I want to keep it simple

>>49515527
>bought Jan 19 2024 $27 calls
when do I sell?

>>49517012
>t. /literally_who/
>>49517015
there will still be a lot of war dont get me wrong. but to not consider that china mmight be trying to get an on-land position is ignorant or arrogant on our behalf

>>49516674
what software is that? I've seen that interface before.

Holy fuck bros I just got back from Taiwan and I went to a COST there. Costco in Taiwan is the best store I’ve been to in my life. I would literally travel to Taiwan again just to wander inside the costcos there.

>>49517036
Cope and seethe fag, any true American knows the F35 was nothing but a joke.

>>49516910
My projection is something like this:
They'll want to preserve as much manufacturing capacity and trade secrets and such, which is why they will most likely begin any offensive by black ops to take control of those companies before they start destroying their own data.
After that the landing will be the hardest part but won't be as bad as normandy because while it's technically much more complicated on geographic grounds, tech has advanced enough to make it easy to punish the defenders who would provide enough resistance to make the landing actually normandy-hard.
After the landing, the fight will quickly turn urban because there's not much else in taiwan. During this phase, china would have no qualms in the methods they use. Gas, explosives, air strikes, so long as it's not near manufacturing facilities they'll do what gets them what they want.
It won't end quickly but china's win or loss will primarily depend on how well they take control of the manufacturing companies (because if they fail their whole attack is borderline pointless) and the landing (after which they have all but won).

>>49516159
If a stock is fairly valued the stock price represents ideally the present value of future profits. You invest money in a stock today because you expect that stock to make certain profits in the future. However, a rise in interest rates slows down economic growth, makes it more expensive to loan money from the banks and companies as well as consumers reduce spending. That's why so many companies already announced cutbacks (e.g. Meta, Netflix etc). As a result earnings are lower and stock prices drop. Companies that aren't profitable at all, are getting hit the worst (like most stocks Cathie Wood likes).

>>49517003
With coons you're doomed

>>49517046
E-Trade.

>>49517003
We aren't winning the next war are we?
>>49517015
So sell off my oil before the election, makes sense, maybe tech will be down enough at that point to make it worth slurping.

>>49516910
>I do think they'd want to preserve as much as they can
They'd rebuild the entire country in a month

>>49517060
>t. liutenant baggie

It’s strange watching everyone lose their minds like they have to retire tomorrow. You have to just pick a position and let go. Laugh at it even. This is clown world.
If it’s going to get as bad as the worst predictions out there, then isn’t this the best day of your life?
Think about it.

>>49517015
But why would china invade Taiwan in the first place? They have cucked Taiwan on the international diplomacy stage. They make Taiwan cuck to them about their status to enter trade agreements with mainland.

Realistically china gets about 70% of what they want in the current setup. The tax money on Taiwan island isn’t really enough to destabilize the world over. Neither are the naval bases really that important in peace time.

The real benefits for Mainland taking Taiwan are for when an actual WW3 breaks out. Otherwise china can sit back and continue cucking Taiwan one little bit at a time until it’s virtually mainland-ified

>>49516971
If they ever mention the f35 you know it's a chang. They love parading out a couple mistakes from thousands of fine sorties.
>>49517012
>F22 raptor with aging tech
>aging tech
>that hasn't been used before
>f 22, even when 35 isn't replacing the 22
This is a biz board so you shouldn't care about the price. You should be buying lmt and Raytheon.

I burned my hand grilling a week ago, and it still hasn't healed...
It's not as bad as my portfolio though

>>49517090
how many bodies are in your basement?

>>49516989
The boomers as a demographic force in the economy officially retired in 2021. That pump at the end was so that they could dump their bags on everyone.
There'll be a generational bottom opportunity coming but it could be several months to years from now. Ironically it will be up to millennials to save this thing.

>>49517081
Not unless we have a fucken mountain of secret tech.
Aircraft carriers are a fucken meme against anyone with sophisticated tech.

>>49517130
>sophisticated tech
like china right, changbot?

>>49516989
>back to normal, to 2016-2020 type of market?
>normal

>>49517164
>sophisticated tech

>>49517119
I graduated HS in the housing crash and associated recession. I graduated college at the height of the Great Recession. My generation is so far behind I’m convinced we will never recover

I dont want to learn option trading, I just want to buy stocks, watch stocks go up, and take profit. Why does our economy have to collapse now of all times when I finally get my life together.

>>49517062
I think Taiwan has to have prepared for any glowie shit and has to have a plan B to shell critical plants even if they get taken over by black ops. Also as long as they have long range weapons they can shell the landing zones and craft. And committing massive warcrimes or using wmds will result in sanctions that obliterate the chinese economy off the face of the universe, their economy is much more vulnerable than Russia.

Taiwan has had decades to plan their entire military doctrine around chinese aggression, it'll be a trainwreck either way.

>>49517012
Gay sex bro, how heavy are those bags?

>>49517212
>graduated college
I skipped that part. Seemed like a waste of time. I just worked and bought a house instead.

>>49516915
are there any downsides to short 3x etfs in a bear market/recession? it feels like the brokerages warnings of 'leveraged etfs are risky' doesnt apply here

>weekend smg
>schizophrenic assholes swarm
>pissed and angry and miserable
>zero stock discussion
>”y-you’re a Chang”
>”y-you’re a pajeet”
>the market is going to zero in a m-month

Buy ROPE

>>49517081
>We aren't winning the next war are we?
Just imagine fighting wwII, with BLM riots in every American city. While they drag you off to war.
>>49517097
>why would china invade Taiwan in the first place?
To save face

>>49517212
you're only behind if you were retarded. which I guess was 90% of our generation so carry on.

NON STOP ASS RAPE

Beautiful market, Brandon

Beautiful third world shithole inflation, Brandon

>>49517282
BULLISH FOR SIGA!!!!!!!

>>49517260
/smg/ after hours is always a clusterfuck, Saturday morning is pretty comfy though.

>>49516368
lmao the absolute state of natolets

>>49517249
>brokerages warnings of 'leveraged etfs are risky'
don't fall for the hebrew tricks
>are there any downsides to short 3x etfs in a bear market/recession
you could be shorting the bottom

>>49517260
Get a load of this fucking faggot

Yeah yeah nasdack dumped 3% but its not really much honestly

>>49517267
Fascinating quote.

>>49517325

>>49517260
>some fucking retard acting like he's a war general
>gets called a retard
>doubles down
>NO YOU CANT CALL ME A FOREIGN SHILL OMG

>>49517236
If taiwan hits their own facilities, china might unironically nuke the island and call it a day. More realistically they won't care anymore about being careful next to those buildings. I think taiwan gains a bigger advantage by setting the battlefronts next to these spots to minimize the tactical advantage china has against them. Bonus points: they can start themselves using dangerous stuff to urge china to back off and be unable to engage without risking the plants.

>>49517347
Oh dont get me wrong i just wanted it to dump at least 6% like it did a few weeks ago

>>49517236
Also, most of taiwan's "plan" was simply to rely on the US. After the talibans, they became scared shitless and scrambled to build up local fighting capacity and new military deals.

justin bieber has facial paralysis from ramsay hunt syndrome. this is a shingles based illness. if you look at the adverse reaction events due to covid in the first 6 months of the vaccine, you'll see zoster events accounted for at least 10% of the events. they are trying to say it's not covid related, but it is.

the die off is about to happen... will make you it to the other side, safe and effectively?

>>49517373
Look man, I know you're too poor to afford the ROPE so I'll fund you.

How much would the stock market go up if Putin, say, accidentally fell out of a window?

>>49517003
They do this with Air Traffic Control as well. Listened to a crash report where ATC was clearly some inattentive nog who just wanted to be done with it. Guided pilot to a military airbase he couldn't land at then he died

>>49517417
2 MORE WEEKS

>>49517422
>poor
yes sir I am the poors, you have certainly got me there my bastard

>>49517437
there is an uptick in shingles advertising, as well, my fren. they won't be able to hide it for much longer.

>>49515563

>>49517212
I think the major problem here was that no one in our age group was ever taught how finance and the economy actually works. That buying stocks was "important" and that life would be good for us if we bought the dip. We were literally cast aside and no one gave a shit unless your parents already knew about stocks and how the economy currently was. No one was buying stocks at the bottom of the Great recession in our age group that wasn't trying to just scrape by with a minimum wage job. Country is fucked I expect the crash to happen and brandon hopefully to die because if it doesn't, Socialism will come in to effect before 2030 and then you won't own anything but you will be free from financial problems and honestly if I could jsut focus more on my family then on the stock market I would be much happier.

When will stocks go back up again? Next month? Mannarino says this month will end positive and i want to believe this permabull.

>>49515777
>>49515888
Checked

>>49517473
Hey retard, they can do whatever the fuck want and there is nothing to stop them. You can spend every day and all day online "researching" about adverse reactions but in the end normies will never listen to you. Literally no one gives a fuck any more. Keep having gay sex to pump siga bros

>>49515597
It’s a good bet dude. One of the more obvious economic trends imo

Who actually bought stocks before close? Everything looks way oversold desu lad

>>49517577
I've been buying. I may get rekt next week but it feels like we are absolute maximum panic IF a recession doesn't happen. If a recession does happen then i'm wrong.

>>49517577
>buying on a friday
>buying before the fed's meeting

>>49517473
This, >>49517549 stop trusing the plan, just focus all of your mebtal energy on making as much money as possible to avoid impending slavery.

>>49517603
>not scalping pre-market when it gaps up then sells off
come on now

>>49517600
So you mean that when the recession news comes out you plan to dump everything right? Because I'm pretty sure that's what you're gonna do lol are you on margin?

>>49517549
im not reaching out to normies, unless you consider yourself one.

i WANT the normie die off to happen.

>>49517624
>scalping

>>49517444
>>49517555
>>49515888
>>49515777
divine thread

i listened to Mannarino today and lost $140 with more pending, fk me. i'll never be a painter. im gonna kms.

>>49517665
wow 1 off from 666 too. shame.

>>49517675
Say it with me, "WHAT A FREAK SHOW!"

>Self Serf Advertising Company Bid.Glass ends relationship with 4chan

>>49516411
China got the flu again

things can't get any worse next week. this was all just a simple price in, we made the soft landing. things will get better again and ill finally lose my virginity and find my soulmate

>>49517665
Bullish

>>49517699
What is it this time? Bat? Dog? Dragon?

>>49517675
He is truly a genius. He said buy oil, banks, gold, crypto, hp. All great calls. You should be up bigly. If you aren't, you should have bought 10 years ago.
t.mannarino

>>49516644
>It would also take many months to just prepare for it. Just like how we saw Russia amazing forces on its border with Ukraine. But this would have to be dramatically bigger and more obvious because of the build up of naval forces.
they are building up, you just don't hear about it

>>49517382
You're underestimating the danger of using nukes against even a non-nuclear country. The moment someone nukes someone else, every other nuclear country will revise their game theory to "the only way to be safe is to cause 100% extermination with a surprise attack." You don't want to do diplomacy when you know the entire world is in permanent Decfon 1 and every other significant country is dedicating their entire military intelligence to figuring out if it's possible to simultaneously destroy all your nuclear subs and 100% of your country's surface area before you can react.

>>49517687
I bear-stained my shorts listening to this shit stain. His picks are as ghoulish as Bidenstein.

>>49516836
It’s just a start

WE GOT TOO COCKY MONKEYBROS

>>49517716
there is divine information in this thread. if you follow the signs
>he didnt follow the signs
>>49517665

>>49516777
>someone used my OC

>>49517267
This quote only applies if the populace thinks that life would be better under the existing government than foreign rule, there are plenty of historical examples of populations rising up against the governing elite and opening the gates to the city to an invading host.
Right now I wouldn't be surprised if more than a 3rd of the country believes life under Russian/Chinese rule would be better than our current corrupt political class or that an invasion would be an opportune time to revolt against the government and form a new union. Doesn't help the government's quest for stability that those they would draft to protect the country (zoomers) are brown (retarded), obese, and riddled with mental disorders.
I guess this is somewhat of a bullish stance for gun companies because I can't be the only person who feels this way, and I'm sure a lot of moderate to conservative people are stocking firearms and ammo for personal, family and community defense rather than have reliance on a government they no longer trust.

>>49517719
if only i chose the most popular picks 20 years ago, i would've been retired by now. but necking myself seems the only retirement i'll be having.

>>49516983
>not like there's anything else of value there.
there are chinks, and that is what matters for Beijing

>>49517758
just 2 more weeks. Gay sex

>>49517796
I don't think america would be better under china/russia rule.
Maybe some european countries would though.

What other investment you guys have?
Just finished flipping my 6th house
4 months $57k profit
All I have to do is sit there is babysit the spics doing all the work well I shitpost on here

whats ur recommend broker for an amerifat

>>49515610
I read your post

>>49517888
nice digits. I use fidelity. But if you want to do some good day trading and options you should use robinhood.

>>49517718
still bat

>>49517097
>But why would china invade Taiwan in the first place?
It's a pure pride and national thing. Again it's the only thing left from their civil war (which the CCP won) so as long as Taiwan isn't under their control it's a thorn in their side.

>>49517888
Fidelity

>>49517739
Or maybe that's exactly what china wants since beside them and russia, the rest of the world have been completely lapsing on their military spending because of the US, but with beijing biden at the helm the US is no longer a threat.

>>49517915
this

I will never sell
I will never sell
I will never sell
I will never sell I will never sell I will never sell I will never sell I will never sell

>>49517943
You will sell and youl be happy

I'm just gonna hold what I have and keep saving money up from the job.

>>49517940
Taiwan's existence alone makes hardcore CCP members seethe lol

It really is joever now...

>>49518011
Perma-bull buck is broken.

>>49517999
What utter children lol. But okay. Seems like they’re getting almost everything they want with no effort. Why buy the cow when you get 70% of the milk for free?

>>49517915
Zoom in on the map, retard. See all of those little islands blocking China from the ocean now? They need Taiwan to have a guaranteed access to the ocean, without it they can be blockaded.

>>49517645
Recession panic/news is already everywhere. I care more about critical support levels, like if we break 380 on SPY I'll probably dump everything. We also have the fed meeting coming up which will also drive price action

>>49517933
US is still the #1 military powerhouse (i'm not a burger btw)
UK and France have nukes including submarines
Russia and China might be friends for now but demostrating readiness to use nukes will still make strategists to plan for the time you aren't friends anymore
India and Pakistan are hotheaded mud-ape countries with fucking nukes
Israel is an extremist far-right ethnostate with nukes and a publicly known apocalypse doctrine even against their friends
North Korea is a reality-divorced clownstate developing nukes

alright last one but don't say I never gave you fags any good 10x tickers.
>>49517999
more diggiess

>>49517888
I used TDAmeritrade. I never had a problem with them. They let you trade pre-market and after-market so you have more of an advantage to buy/sell

>>49517999
why doesn't Taiwan just change their name.

>>49518083
Japan 2.0 doesn't have the same ring to it.

>>49518100
I was thinking "More South Korea"

>>49518042
That's the military side to it. A lot of former glowies and military lobbyists say that too.

>>49517908
>robinhood
trade execution is ass

Get to work bakers

>>49517888
I use TD, haven't used anyone else really.
>no darkmode
>charts suck

>>49517577
>way oversold desu lad
Dude we literally just came off a rally. I swear a huge multi week rally and first red day you weak hands scream oversold.

>>49518182
>multi week
I didn't know three days was considered multiple weeks

I just woke up so ive missed the threads today. Why is redbox still going up whats going on? That shit should be more dead than amc

I'm not financially ruined. But I am financially uncomfortable =[

Brb buying bearspray and a 30-06

>>49517888
Webull
>good bonus for starting an account
>good charts, lots of options for drawing TA meme lines
>Options interface is fine
>Options live data requires a subscription if you don't trade at least 1 option every 15 days.
>Good functionality for opening/closing trades / setting multiple orders from the same screen (stop loss, take profit orders entered at open)
>fractional shares can only be bought/sold from the mobile app
Robinhood
>shit charts
>poor order fill pricing execution
>Has an options watch list with charts for the option value which is quite nice
>Has live option order data without a subscription regardless of how often you trade options
>sign on bonus sucks
Thinking about moving over to think or swim, but my suggestion for a first broker is to make a webull account if only for the free sign up stocks.

>>49518241
cheer up fren, the future is always better .. tomorrow

>>49518038
why do you think geopolitics rationally? it's a planet-sized highschool drama

>>49518247
webull also lets you trade in premarket and postmarket hours

new
>>49518256
>>49518256
>>49518256

>>49518042
That’s not really the issue.

The issue for china is that in a war scenario a hostile Taiwan could be used to split chinas waters in two. Because Taiwan could naval attack any ships trying to cross it to the other side. It’s really that simple.

Cutting china off from trade or sea altogether comes from controlling the straits of Malacca near Indonesia/Malaysia. Cut that off and the trade from the rest of the world by boat to china dwindled to near zero. It’s the only economically viable route from euro/Africa to china by boat.

Which I’m sure has nothing to do with china trying massively hard to get land trade routes going. I’m sure china has definitely NOT tried to think of ways to leverage trade routes as allowing their expansion of territory by warfare. Nooo sit. Not china:

>>49516426
>>49516496

single digit soxl, here we come

>tfw up 10k from SOXS for the day
>up 25k total for the year after having been down 25k riding SOXL to the bottom
Feels good

>>49516521
>everything is expensive
>people spend more money on everyday essentials and have no spare money for stocks
>actually sell stocks to buy everyday essentials
>selling causes more selling
>fed raises rates to combat inflation
>wall street jews have less cheap money to gamble with
>buy less stocks sell more
>selling causes more selling
Capitulation hasn't even begun. We're still in the denial stage.

>>49517325
>tfw never finished RE8 and stopped right after completing the mansion
Should I keep going?

>>49518045
>US is still the #1 military powerhouse (i'm not a burger btw)
Yes, but they keep signaling that they don't want to get involved in anything and that they'll botch anything they get involved in.
>UK and France have nukes including submarines
Yes, but they're not about to start a nuke war against china. A single nuke can level half their countries, while they'd need to send ~50 to do the same to china, for one. For two, china gains the initiative in this case: "if you do any hostile action you get the next one". For three, nobody can afford a GLOBAL nuke war.
>Russia and China might be friends for now but demostrating readiness to use nukes will still make strategists to plan for the time you aren't friends anymore
Of course, but the point is that once china has launched the nuke, they can threaten everyone else in the world to force them to not work on their militaries anymore. What are they going to do? Start pelting nukes around as the whole world falls into near irreparable damage and mankind is doomed for the next several hundred years? (yes please!!)
>Israel is an extremist far-right ethnostate with nukes and a publicly known apocalypse doctrine even against their friends
Samson option is not actually real. However, israel is friends with china as well.
>North Korea is a reality-divorced clownstate developing nukes
NK easily gets wiped by china if they try. Not a threat. In fact, good opportunity to demonstrate they mean business.