/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49499047
Boo hoo

Adapt or die.

>>49499047
never thought id say this, but go back >>>/ic/

>>49499047
I've been warning your arties about this for years. Ideaguys will reign supreme in the AI-ruled future.

>>49499047
>DALL-E
>how do I invest in this project?

>>49499047
DALL-E is nowhere near perfect yet anon. I'm sure there's stuff that is far better than DALL-E that isn't available to the public yet, but still it shouldn't be too hard to adapt to these AIs.

>>49499047
It's over for wagies. Humans are not needed anymore

>>49499047
>>49499401
you are a brainlet who doesnt understand how the art market works

nobody hires artists to make generic pictures based off 5 word descriptions, they just go on adobe stock and buy a picture for 20 cents. you only hire artists to make EXTREMELY SPECIFIC things, and 99% of people have never and will never pay an artist to draw something.

the pics you are looking at are cherrypicked. while the ai can make good pics sometimes of things that already exist and have tons of pictures of them, they cannot make pics of some persons fursona sucking dick, and that's where the only money left for artists is

>>49499047
I want access to dalle2 so bad. It's going to absolutely murder the shitty artist for hire crowd.

>>49499450
>the pics you are looking at are cherrypicked. while the ai can make good pics sometimes of things that already exist and have tons of pictures of them, they cannot make pics of some persons fursona sucking dick, and that's where the only money left for artists is
Just wait a few years for YIFF-E 69

>>49499399
That's just trying to get something in one step. (According to their claims) thhe model can be used to add something to an existing background. So in that case, you'd first create the background faces by themselves and use the composite as background for the main character.

>>49499499
Bro right now I can't even draw me a basic Nico Robin, let alone multiple specific lewd OCs together.

>>49499552
That's because they're trained on material that excludes explicit material. We're in the Pong days of neural networks, it will take a while before the first Custer's Last Stand is released.

Whatever loser, wake me up when a robot can mow a LAWN. No those gay roomba robots don't count, especially considering a crack head walking down the street will steal it a week after it is installed.

Kek you people won't fucking believe what this this can do

Commencing image dump

>>49499047
>I was told that artist jobs are the among the last jobs that will be automated.
ironically enough, large amounts of middle management jobs are easier to automate than shelf stacking; e.g. shift scheduling. let's see if they do it.

>>49499486
yes and no, it can't do some things. Even the dalle2 is restricted...
The real money is in porn and that is one of the restricted things.

These raccoons aren't real

>>49499603
>The real money is in porn
Oh for sure, but there are plenty of shitty artists who don't deserve to make a living with the crap they put out, and they're going to get crushed.
The moment a NN can make a good walk animation is game over.

Anyone that thinks AI furry porn isn't coming is deluded

>>49499613
>Top left
>Emu War II, Electric Boogaloo

>>49499047
Just specialize on fetish hentai that gets removed through DALL-E's normie filter.

wtf cats don't lick cactus

>>49499613
Holy shit that robo-toucan is perfect

>>49499645
>Just specialize on fetish hentai that gets removed through DALL-E's normie filter.
>But still use Dall-E to get the basic poses so all you need to do is a bit of editing.

What's the difference between DALL-E and DALL-E mini?
https://huggingface.co/spaces/dalle-mini/dalle-mini
https://github.com/borisdayma/dalle-mini

>>49499643
The variations thing crazy.

Drawfag here, OP is a faggot who doesn't know a visual tool when he see's one. The AI is purely abstract and is no different from starting to work with silhouettes and refine forms. Dalle is not meant to replace anyone instead it's purely a conceptual visual arts engine that'll require an input from someone that can take its pieces a step further.

>>49499659
DALLE 2 is the good one, its insane.
The mini is much shittier

>>49499047
Sketch artist here.
I have started learning how to draw about 4-5 years ago and never stopped since then.
I have sworn to draw one sketch everyday for the sake of consistency.

I have finally made something of myself, a mentally ill bloke like me actually became a useful member of society by learning a skill and contributing to the economy.
Worked with companies for illustrations, worked with random strangers for more NSFW stuffs. Finally able to start paying my bills on my own, without government help.

And now, it's over. I have to start all over again.
All these precious years of my youth wasted because of a fucking contraption called a "camera" about to take my job.
I am not the angry type, but the last few weeks I really wanted to break everything inside of my appartment.
This is so fucking unfair, I was told that sketch artist jobs are the among the last jobs that will be replaced by technology.

Anyway, I don't know if I am going to kill myself over this, but whatever. No one cares. Just wanted to vent about this.

Shit is fucking spooky

>>49499652
>>49499662
Are you considered a researcher/journo or something? How long did it take to get access? I'm having plenty of fun with stuff like Looking Glass but the new DALL-E 2 looks ridiculously good

>>49499664
Unbelievable giga-cope.

>>49499664
your years of effort don't mean a damn thing anymore, you will cope or rope in time.

this AI art is freakin me out

>>49499682
Nah I got just these from Twitter.

>>49499659
A couple of billion of trained model parameters.

>>49499700
Hehe why?

You know what's funny?
Since its most realistic than a 3d render, you actually have to specify "3d render" in order to downgrade it and make it look like something made in blender.

Man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.

ngl, the world is going to shit and I was always an accelerationist but with what AI is doing I feel like pulling the plug now is like the Greeks and Romans dying just as steam engines and other early mechanical inventions were just beginning to reach fruition. If I can just live in a subscription infinite-dream AI world I think I could ignore all the bad.

Goku Roman statue

>>49499659
Basically, given the same prompt, dalle mini gives you the image on the left, and dalle2 gives you the one on the right.

My precious

>>49499772
if you understood accelerationism you'd know there is no plug to pull

It does food well

>>49499804
Explain

>>49499664
>Dalle is not meant to replace anyone
>not mah heckin' creatives!!!!
this is particularly interesting since i remember my artistic parents telling me how people that study science etc are only good at entering numbers on computers

this thing will/should put entire departments of product designers out of work

>>49499721
>make it look like
it looks like "mental illness" desu

This is telling it to make it look like a video game and not real.

>>49499815
assuming you mean pulling the plug on AI and not yourself there's nothing that can stop AI development short of a global catastrophe wiping out the human race. Have you even read nick land or listened to his interviews?

Hehe sneed

>>49499815
>the way i worded it
typical ESL
>hahwar... ingrish so easy
it's given him precisely what he asked for minus a grammar's mistake

It’s crap. I asked it to draw a hamburger riding a lawnmower in the desert. You must be a shitty artist if you’re worse than this. Are you just shilling this piece of shit for some Jew agency?

>>49499850
Looks like a freaking bunny boiler.
Love it.

this ai is getting wild
when are they coming for writers?
im a copywriter and made a living ove3 a decade off writing now. will ai replace me too?

>>49499047
OP, I'm truly sorry. I'm not even an artist and this shit is giving me an existential crisis.

>>49499047
relax dude, nobody cares an ai can do art.
once the novelty wears off it will be seen as cheap and tacky and if anything the hours involved in human made art and the years of practice will become more appreciated. replacing humans in art is like replacing football players with robots, cool at first but ultimately meaningless so never a real replacement. advertisers will put the artists name on the ad so that people know a real human did it, though people will get better at telling on their own, and the ai is years away, maybe even 10-20 years away from being truly indistinguishable from human art. you might find yourself using ai tools to prototype ideas and as a base to start from or you might get clients sending you ai images as examples of the sort of thing they're after.

>>49499936
Anon, I thought artists would be safe for a while, being a creative profession and all that. But now even they're already on the chopping block... How long until even us in IT are next? CS / Programming might be hit first since it's directly on a computer, IT can get physical with servers but even that can get automated to hell. It feels like I better go ahead and start getting ready to live innawoods now before I get put out of work.

>>49499936
there is already things going after writing,
I forget the name but there was a popular service that had you interact in a text adventure type of thing of your choosing. People abused it for lewd stuff and they removed that feature.

>>49499936
There's already AIs that do writing. The best ones are on waitlists like DALLE-2, though

>>49499974
>How long until even us in IT are next? CS / Programming might be hit first since it's directly on a computer
this is never going to happen. replacing an actual programmer with AI would require a full general AI. and youd still need someone to understand the code at the end of the day because one wrong line = strike out

with that said braindead stuff like GUI programming can be automated by AI, but it pretty much already has been by libraries so its rather irrelevant

>>49499996
>there was a popular service that had you interact in a text adventure type of thing of your choosing. People abused it for lewd stuff and they removed that feature.
That's AI dungeon

Bros imagine all the rate Pepes we'll be able to generate when this shit goes live

>>49500021
yeah that's the one

>>49499996
>abused it for lewd stuff
>abused it
Even ignoring the moronic moderation concerning lewds it got shit on because the dev went full control freak trying to stop any and all children from appearing for lewd or violence to the point of describing the age of an object would send out a false positive.

>>49499783
underrated post

>>49500013
Remember when everyone was saying the internet was never going take off and it happened? Look what just happened with artists now, something regarded as highly creative. Something that was thought of pure intuition, something couldn't be explained into words that came from the mind, "soul", etc. It's the same thing with code. You might think of yourself as some high IQ genius that couldn't possibly replaced by a machine, but it's really a matter of WHEN and not IF.
Very few are going to admit, especially programmers, that their job is also able to be automated.

>>49499972
>the ai is years away, maybe even 10-20 years away from being truly indistinguishable from human art.
is this real or gayI?

>>49499936
Get a real job faggot. AI will not replace a construction worker

>>49500065
programming is also already in trouble btw.

>>49500065
>You might think of yourself as some high IQ genius that couldn't possibly replaced by a machine, but it's really a matter of WHEN and not IF.
if you mean jeets, yeah... copying and pasting stack exchange was never really a job to begin with. they just hire them to increase their diversity quota.

>>49500069
>>49499972
This is the scary thing. When the look at the majority of "art" that is consumed by the average person, most if it is just generic schlock. Do you really think it'd be so hard for an AI to make up a marvel movie?

>>49500100
>Do you really think it'd be so hard for an AI to make up a marvel movie?
lol no. in fact we were having a big talk about it in the pub last night, how so much film wise now is just generic junk.

the painting is a damian hirst that is currently on sale for £12,500.

>>49499047
I heard same thing about translations

>>49499580
underrated

>>49499856
I mean pulling the plug on Western civilization. This legitimately feels like the cusp of a new era.

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>>49500171
kek wtf

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>>49500093
i have a masters degree in statistics. programming can't be automated without general AI because it is too interconnected. the stuff that "ai programmers" can do is just 20 line algorithms copy pasted from stackoverflow

there is a MASSIVE difference between art and software engineering because in the latter if you fuck up a single line of code then you break everything. whereas in the DALLE renders theres lots of mistakes but people overlook them

in fact, you can still see this problem with art and writing. AI is very good at making single paragraphs or single pictures, but no AI could ever write a coherent book or comic no matter how shitty. to make a program you need to be 100% coherent throughout with no room for mistakes

yeah you fucked buddy

>>49500093
Tell that to this guy: >>49500098
He's convinced, like so many others, that their job is somehow special. The fact AI can make this level of artwork already should give one the intuitive feeling the possibilities are really endless. Given the fact that most of our country would rather tear off their own balls or breasts than implement some kind of social policy to spread out the output of AI and continue to allow the elites to keep pocketing the saved money and let the displaced literally just go homeless and starved, we may truly be heading into a nightmare scenario. Guess I'll get ready for the woods if crypto does not work out..

>>49500100
>>49500115
Actually, maybe it's a good thing. Maybe when AI enters the industry and things are driven to the ultimate extent people will stop consuming them. Guess it's going to happen regardless

>>49500272
the elites will have no more use for much of the masses and will do something to kill them

>>49500277
Pretty much in a nutshell what I think is going to happen. Most lolbertarians and other economic righters will be cheering their own butchers is the funny part.

>>49499047
What are the chances that the AI is fake and that's it's actually Chinese artists drawing it super fast for a cup of rice ? Because if it's real, mankind is fucked, not only because AI will replace everyone, but because we'll soon live in a procedural virtual reality. Maybe it's already the case and we haven't realized it yet.

i asked for biden and putin sharing an ice cream cone and this was the best it could do

>>49500310
completely fake? no because similar tech is already public
could they have cooked the books? yes. they are well known for doing this and have a profit incentive to do so: https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2022/03/28/is-open-ai-cooking-the-books-on-gpt-3/

>>49500159
Yep I feel it to, we're gonna go from post-modernity to post-humanity

>All these precious years of my youth wasted because of a fucking AI called "DALL-E" about to take my job.

what seems to be the issue here?

>>49499094
CRAB! CRAB! CRAB!

>>49500310
>tfw you realize our reality is just one person's fantasy world created by AI in a higher dimension
It's like nigger science man said, if we will one day be able to make vidya as realistic as real life, what are the odds we are the ones on the outer layer? (not good, space is literally just another form of invisible wall to us)

learn to code and then learn to train an ai model to develop the art you want to see in this world. i am going to do the same thing with music.

you are the cusp of a new era of artistic creation, unironically

>>49499918
That's not dalle2 you fucking idiot.
What makes your think you are worthy enough to be part of the 2000 people who currently have access?

>>49500324
Interesting. So there's still a possibility that those pictures are like retouched E3 renderings of a game preview. The gap between Dall-e 1 and 2 is so huge that it looks suspect to me, the renderings are simply too perfect, AI generated stuff generally has lots of cluttering.

If the thing was made public and I could test it myself I'd believe it, otherwise I'll consider it a psyop like autonomous cars.

>>49500402
Sure, as time passes, the simulation theory sounds more and more plausible to me.

waifulabs.com is a fun one to play with

>>49500402
The more realistic and more terrifying possibility is that the world hasn't been designed for entertainment purposes like a vidya simulation but it's just a computation created by some hyper intelligent AI that's trying to compute an answer to some insolvable question by simulating entire worlds

Say if a person asked "what's the cure for cancer" so the AI simulated a nearly infinite amount of worlds to find the one where some intelligent creature found the cure for cancer, and one of those worlds is ours.

>>49500311
That's not dalle2

>>49500296
How the fuck would authoritarianism save the day?

>>49500489
Literally that or unironically just going full anprim as Ted Kaczynski recommended... Think the man was actually on to something...

>>49499664
This, and it can't make proper cunny either.

>>49500430
>Interesting. So there's still a possibility that those pictures are like retouched E3 renderings of a game preview.
i think a more likely scenario is that they are lying about the extent of cueing I.E. they are starting with more information than just a few words then adding on top of it, but touching up later is also possible

>>49500501
It's not going to do anything. The elite have hundreds of nuclear bombs ready to go. Are you completely fucking retarded?

>>49500544
Wouldn't do them much good to literally turn the planet into an inhabitable wasteland either. Also, not saying which I think it'd go, just that I think these are 2 of the most probable.

>>49499047
> I was told that artist jobs are among the last jobs that will be automated
Wtf it's been years we've known IA was taking over
Is 'being told' a good idea when switching careers?
Can't you fucking use your brain too and research what's happening in the field?

Bottom line: kek you're a retard
I'm telling you DevOps jobs will be among the last replaced by IA, please become one, trust me bro

>>49500526
Or maybe there's a limitation in the kind of renderings the AI can make. I've got yet to see a proper human figure and body made with Dall-e 2.

>>49500568
Nature heals after a while, nuclear bombs wouldn't fuck up the world as much as people think. At least half the people in the world would survive if WW3 happened. If Yellowstone blew up or a big asteroid hit us, THAT would fuck us for a while. Nukes are toys compared to that kind of natural disasters.

>>49499047
you still need people to manually redraw the details, stop crying tranny

>>49499613
>>49499627
that is honestly terrifying

>>49500402
https://anonymouscode.fandom.com/wiki/World_Layers

>>49499047
kill yourself crab

>>49500501
Anprim is unironically less realistic to achieve than a functioning communist utopia

>>49500430
>The gap between Dall-e 1 and 2 is so huge
im guessing they've set the allowable processing time for dalle mini at basically the minimum required to produce a recognisable image. the dalle 2 ones probably take ages to process on some kind of Google cloud server.

>>49499047
>contributing member of society
>NSFW drawings

>>49500610
>Nukes are toys compared to that kind of natural disasters.
Hell is just a flood basalt eruption.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_basalt

>>49500610
>I've got yet to see a proper human figure and body made with Dall-e 2.
thats weird but true. also theres a fuckton of 3d pictutes which all look like they were made by one artist because they are compositionally so similar: a wide aperture and short focal length with plasticy looking surfaces and lots of hair. shouldnt the renders be more diverse if they are from tons of pictures?

>>49500634
Never heard of that but interesting that it follows a very similar line of thought

>>49500501
>Literally that or unironically just going full anprim as Ted Kaczynski recommended.
LMAO imagine being in a religious cult and fighting against your own self interest
Kill yourself leafboy

>>49500610
>I've got yet to see a proper human figure and body made with Dall-e 2.
i want teats. human teats. human girl teats*... with whipped cream and a cherry on the top.

>*i know you too well 4chan.

>>49500431
when is japan releasing CUNN-E?

>>49500722
that may have something to do with origins of this kind of stuff and the film industry, if you think 'toy story'ery.

>>49500430
>psyop
Meds now
The things take 15 seconds to create
2000+ people are using it including many youtubers
I got my request in and it was Kino as fuck

>>49500780
This was dall-e mini but you do know that they restrict those types of images right?
It purposely tries to not make lewds.

>>49499047
Time to learn traditional nigger

>>49500717
Yeah I'm glad mother nature is much less temperamental nowadays. People who bitch about climate change have no idea what earth went through before.

>>49500722
There's always a bias in the way an AI is programmed. It leads to stereotyped results. It also has to do with the kind of pictures stored in the database. If it works like they say, it's still impressive and it can only get better in the future. Like how the first 3D movies were considered too plastic looking, but now the kind of rendering is up to the artist.

>>49500709
He will get his job back after the Butlerian Jihad that will free mankind and put an end to computers and internet. He'll just have to learn how to use a pencil irl.

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>>49499047
There will be a market where the simple fact the product was made by a human is the selling point. It's already been a thing for a while now anyway.

>>49500860
>He will get his job back after the Butlerian Jihad
Based Duneposter.

>>49500865
Dalle would be a coomer gold mine if it weren’t for the filter.

>>49500205
you're gonna need a master's degree in coping within 3 years

>>49499672
Are you some kind of Dall-e "advertisment" bot?

>>49501021
Not much point in advertising when people can't join and spend.

>>49500822
Could you please post the results ? I can see OP's pic still has a lot of "noise" around the eyes and the cleavage, and background faces in the second pic look like shit, but cleaning can be made by hand. I'd really like to have my hands on this AI so I could find its limitations.

>>49500960
Brutal

>>49499818
This makes me want to leave this planet

>>49499047
I think if you stick to NSFW you still have a few extra years to make money

>>49501037
To get things in public discussion is also worth advertising. More talk=more future users

>>49499664
dall-e has improved massively in just a few years. in ten years time it'll be impossible to differentiate between real art and ai art.

>>49499047
Congratulations
You have now learned what happens when you assert that your metaphysical value is based on how well and conveniently you can work as a tool of the ambivalent machine called industrial society
I don't blame you, plenty of retards don't think their philosophical orientations in life through like your fellow cuck: >>49499061 who has merely not been replaced yet

Technology will learn how to do everything a human can do, it's only a matter of time; if nature could do it, the evolutionary system known as industrial organized technology can do it too.
It merely exists on a human substrate and is human dependent FOR NOW, but even that is debatable as it pits humans against eachother for its own self preservation.

And yet we can easily see the end of all this:
Either the industrial system will blow itself up (preferably) or it will enslave us to greater and greater degrees than it already has, until it likely obsolesces us completely

The cucks who deny that our value comes from our identity and identity alone, as humans, ironically sell themselves or their children for cheap

>>49499401
unironically this. most fields will become automated in the next 10-20 years. humans will only be useful to maintain automation

>>49499664
Yeah and this is totally not a cope as if someone from just 10 years ago would not be absolutely dumbfounded to see that it could do even this and that in another 10-15 years it won't be outright perfected

How about instead of coping that "it can't take what I love to do in life juuust yet" you do something useful and help me disable the electric grid

>>49499601
This
The middle wagies are about to start seething big time in the next 10-30 years as they figure out that just because they were given higher quality feed it doesn't mean they aren't cattle and won't get slaughtered
They were taught to base their entire selfworth on not being a low level wagie and they are going to be mad
But it won't be a victory for us either because the system evolves through natural selection to protect itself from this instability and will give them even better feed in exchange for putting them in a tighter and even more dependent box

The next 40-100 years will be the turning point to see whether humans as a species have the collective willpower to get a handle on technology at all, or set ourselves on the path to be great-filtered by it

>>49499936
Gpt-3 is the model for writing, it's very impressive but has since fundamental faults right now. But if the can scale up the model and we continue to see huge improvements via more parameters you are fucked

>>49499585
Mine does a perfect job for a 600m2 yard was a pain in the ass to setup tho

>>49500093
They can write algorithms that all programmers copy or use libraries from anyway. We are still a very long way away from real business case programming, very long

Why do you act like you'll be out of a job ? on the contrary.

One little caveat : you won't be artists, you'll be redrawers for DALL-E, you'll be an AI's little bitch yeah :)

>>49499047
>Twitter posting
Fuck off retard

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>>49501291
Tedfags are the absolute worst.
Enjoy being left behind and crying like a bitch.

>>49499047
Dall-e doesn't draw very good loli's, you can always do that

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>>49499613
what site do you go to use Dall-E? Link?

>>49500088
Yes they will lmao
Wait until they put this shit in robots

>>49499972
A bot typed this comment

>>49501901
It's not available to the public yet.
Only 2000 people have access, mostly insiders

>>49501624
They didn't use the mini one.

KEK

HOLY FUCK
Do you guys realize how insane this is?
Watch this animation it made.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dalle2/comments/uwb3cz/the_first_image_in_this_video_was_created_from/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

>>49501624
thats dall-e mini retard not dall-e 2

>>49502039
Years ago I thought to myself maybe Earth has computer technology that is too advanced given our technology progress level. I mean isn't it weird that we will likely have full on AI before we even have people on Mars.

>>49502039
It really isn't. It just jumped between themes (local minima) and improved the resolution each time until "overfitting" (wrong usage here but fuck you), where it changed concepts again drawing from some random detail.

t. data sci

>>49499047
Just draw porn idiot, market is literally limitless and you will find guaranteed paypiggies that are enslaved to lustful images.

>>49499047
what's funny is AI like dalle2 is trained using a massive database of images from artists like you, without you getting paid, without you getting recognized for it, without you knowing

you literally heemed yourself lmfao

>>49502134
it is interesting how they're somehow avoiding copyright

>>49502134
>without them knowing
Shoulda read those Terms and Conditions

>>49502104
You're unironically retarded.
The fact it is even able to create these images in the first place is a miracle.

>>49501871
>yes goy. All tech is good and advances civilization! Nevermind that we are socially a sick society, are poisoning our wells and have no moral values. It’s anti semitic to say power is centralized and consolidated into the reigns of a tiny group of elites! Now get back to work, wagie

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>>49502134
I really hope humanity abolishes intellectual property soon.

>>49502215
If you're a brainlet, sure. If you know the math behind it, it's very simple.

>>49502248
Everyone laugh at this faggot.
Go make one in your basement then if this doesn't impress you.