/biz/ - Business & Finance

4chan isn't busy being a white knight to women whenever they talk.

>why does a temporary thread board with anonymous posters not have long, thoughtful discussions backed with data
This is your brain on Reddit?

>>49463890
How does that even have anything to do with talking about business and finances?

>>49463828
>serious
>economics

Daily reminder that finance and economics are pseudoscientific make believe garbage and that every single finance asset like stocks,bonds,debt,crypto,money etc are all purely parasitical in nature and serve no purpose nor have any inherent value. Capitalism is inherently unstable,unsustainable and exploitative and every single financier or crypto dudebro is a literal parasite. Even astrology is better because at least that is designed to connect you to people and hang around and discuss your thoughts and feelings kinda like fuzzy therapy with friends. Finance is literally just cancer nothing redeeming about it in any way

>>49463934
Nothing, it's just cope. Many subreddits have far better discussions than 4chins ever has and that's just the facts. 4chins just lets you say nigger and rip on Jews, that's the only upside.

>>49463925
Just because the threads are temporary doesn’t mean you can’t have deep discussions. Threads on Reddit usually don’t last longer than a day or two as well. That literally makes no sense. Maybe you should use Reddit more so you can learn a thing or two

>>49463934
what sub is this

>>49463828
you know that joke about always doing the opposite that /biz/ says? Well it's actually true about reddit

>>49463993
>mmmh grayons

>>49463828
>Open Reddit page
>Thread 1
>Help! I spent my life savings on *insert shitcoin here* what should I do?
>Thread 2
>Doge Coin To Da Moooooon!
>Thread 3
>Safemoon is going to be the world currency one day so load up your bags!
>Thread 4
>Help! I gave my seed phrase to verify my wallet and now all my crypto is gone?????????
You're right OP. Very insightful discussion to be had on Reddit

>>49464037
Kek, biggest buy signal ever

>>49463993
once again I don't give a fuck

>>49464481
whenever i think biz is shit, i just go to the daily discussion on r/cryptocurrency and laugh at all these retards. at least on biz there are bobos

>>49463934
Because incels are parasites who will slither in any and all conversations or situations and will latch on to you and start drinking your blood

>>49464578
To be fair, /biz/ has its fair share of negative IQ retards, but plebbit definitely takes the cake on sheer stupidity
It’s like when someone complains about their ape jpg being stolen. Then again, anyone dumb enough to buy one of those probably doesn’t know the seed phrase is supposed to be private and that Metamask will never ask for it

>>49464578
r/cryptocurrency has to either be the combined stupidest minds in all of history or a VC demoralization and exit liquidity farm. Some of the stuff I witness there is mind bogglingly stupid. Things like decentralization word salad spam while shilling chains with single digit nakamoto coefficients. That and they know fuck all about how basic code and blockchain technology works. This is coupled with an irrational idea of what VC and token distribution is happening in their projects while calling out better projects with less VC held ico’s. It has to be some sort of sick propaganda effort. And moons, dont even get me started on moons, third world stinkers spreading garbage around all day so that one day maybe moons will be worth something.

>why are you not like ledit

>>49463828
If you haven't figured it out yet, it's because 4chan is genuinely one of the most retarded sites on the internet.

>>49463993
stfu commie
go 2 vzla

>>49463828
Go back you fag tranny NPC nigger

>>49464037
That guy sounds exactly like everyone here has been saying. Recession soon and people will get rid of high risk investments, etc. Now I know for sure this is the bottom and there will be a new ath by eoy maybe early next year at the latest.

>>49463828
You might as well call that forum r/goodgoys, same as the Bogleheads forum. You see so many people that are either:
1) Boomers that are completely disconnected from modern day reality
2) Millennials and Gen x that are so bluepilled that they unironically buy into ESG and think high inflation is okay as long as ZionDon isn't making mean tweets anymore.
3) People that are completely unhinged but because they hold a popular zogbot opinion, (You will eat ze bugz and own nothing) everyone agrees with them and circle jerks them off.

>>49464578
>at least on biz there are bobos
and we love our bobos

>>49463828
And yet the coins that are on biz are the ones pumping, my advice to you would be to look into the best coins.
I still have a few options, you could pick up whichever you think works for you, but dyor before you get into it

$LACE - LoveLace is a project that focuses on the Metaverse, but uses it as a service toolkit rather than being just another project that goes on and on about building an entire block or city or absolute faggotry of jpegs.

$QOM - This is probably going to be your biggest money gainer simply because it's from the creator of SHIB - Ryoshi who dropped his shitcoins and jumped shit because he was tired of being associated with something that valued nothing and made a fool of everyone involved.

$VINU - Metaverse + Memecoin + Fast&Feesless + Blue doggy = Megawinner

>>49464853
This

Fuck you op, no (you)s for you.

>>49463934
>women spending substantially more money on useless materialistic consoom out of boredom than men
>not related to finances

Because we're really high IQ and know economics and finance talks are professorial gibberish for and from morons who could never make it in the real clown world we live in.

>>49463828
We do, but like everything on 4chan it's much much much more more ephemeral than Reddit.

>>49463999
Not anymore.

>>49463993
>t. Bianca the dead psychopath's bitch's ghost
that be a yikee yikes from me bro'lady

>>49464009
As in threads disappear, kaput, zapped, gone, as opposed to being archived on leddit.

>>49463828

Because they only discuss the system they operate in and not the potential to break free or exist outside of it. Some discussions are impossible and the most popular comment doesn't mean anything is most often half right at best.

I'm not looking for people with excellent memory that just can just regurgitate "known" information. I'm looking for ideas, perspectives, theories, and people that are forged through intense critical thinking and introspection. I don't want the same cookie cutter response repacked with slightly different wording 35354345 times.

>>49465818
Wtf do these words mean? What are you saying? What are you referring to? Do you talk like that irl? Do you...even talk irl? Like when was the last time you actually went outside

>>49465962
You heard him bro'lady kek

>>49463934
show your tits

>>49465877
Ok? You can still have meaningful discussion while the thread lasts. Just because a thread will eventually disappear has zero effect on the quality of the conversations. I seriously don’t understand your reasoning behind this… threads last, what, about an hour or two, possibly more? As long as the thread remains up, which it will if people continue chatting on them, that’s more than enough time. People can have deep convos in literal minutes if they really wanted to.

>>49463993
2 based

>>49465112
Only when they post positions. Bobo/mumu meme posters should be banned with no positions

>>49465882
The ironic part of your comment is that I see people just regurgitating info they memorized more often than 4chan than Reddit. There are more niche pockets of Reddit that have good discussions, but this entire board is literally just overused meme after meme and people just copypasting nonsense spouted by other anons

>>49463828
Reddit likes to paint the image that "finance professionals" know what they're doing with absolute certainty.
/biz/ blows the doors wide opens and exposes the inner retard inside us all.

Nobody knows what the market will do.

/biz/ has been overrun with literal paid promoters and is in the worst state ever

>>49463828
because /biz/ is infected by braindead /pol/tards who view everything with their schizo ideology and lifestyles

>>49463999
discussions?

Reddit is for faggots.
I get all my investing tips from divination.

>>49463828
Because this is 4chan not reddit
Also those are just reposts of news articles

>>49467423
>w-well the problem is chuds
What a boring, normified take. It's just as bad as saying "well the problem with western society is trannies". You've identified a symptom and call it the disease. You're all unoriginal NPC faggots, stereotypical /pol/tards and "muh /pol/ bogeyman" posters alike.

>>49467473
Reveal to me your wisdom that you pondereth anon
Consumer defensives? Tech?

I'm in both
[doublespoiler]I know spoilers don't work on /biz/[/doublespoiler]

>>49467506
case proven

>>49463993
unironically based. We are gamblers for better or for worse. Unless you literally have a few hundred million you're just along for the ride.

>>49467593
You're retarded and there's zero chance you successfully explain how that proves your point.

>>49467423
I'll never understand why /pol/whiners just don't go elsewhere. 99% of the internet is set-up and sanitized for /pol/whiners like you. Why come to a /pol/ adjacent space? The only assumption I can make is that the remaining 1% dissident presence on the internet (i.e. /pol/ and 4chan) triggers you so much that you feel the need to come here and attempt to install the same culture and censorship they have on reddit and twitter. Leftoids are OCD and megalomaniacal like that

>>49467680
nah, I just hate americans, that's why I hate /pol/tards. 4chan is a good website when you americans aren't around tbdesu

>>49463828
none of these redditors make any money
they LARP about their academic literacy and are all in poverty

>>49467680
It's actually a funny and ironic reason they come here. See they realize the internet is sanitized and cancerous. Normified to unmeasurable proportions. It's literally just become advertising space for normie niggers to consoom and be told what to think. They're smart enough to realize this and so they seek out sites that are more fringe, less moderated more sincere. Real sites with real honest people who don't give a shit. Unfortunately for them these honest sites and boards cater to the very opposite of their own ideology. They allow anyone to say anything. This forces them to actually have to face what people sincerely think and not what they're projecting for the sake of social recognition. This pisses them off because they disagree vehemently with a lot of these opinions. But they want open discussion, just their version of it though, without the bad peoples opinions. See the problem?

They want a reddit tier version of open discussion. It's cognitive dissonance to the max. they crave open discussion but don't wanna hear opinions they disagree with.

>>49467680
Yeah the best response they can come up with to this is trying to pretend they're an "oldfag" and that "reddit sucks because I can't tell faggots like you to kill yourselves" but the fact is they just have to go anywhere else for a few hours and when they come back low effort /pol/ posters will be a breath of fresh air compared to whatever censored ultra-leftist shithole they visited. Or they'd realize ultra-leftist shitholes are more their speed and stay there.

>>49463993
salt
eat gas

>>49467680
Because we’ve been trying to become the Jew since this board was a containment board from /g/, meanwhile you /pol/faggots showed up after GME and have polluted this board with your left wing statist bullshit
The plebbit tourists at least know they’re leftists, you’ve convinced yourself that you’re “right wing” and “traditional” because you say nigger occasionally, when every other word out of your mouths is how government should protect you from whatever your glowie masters have convinced you will destroy The Great White Race this week

You thought wrong. Now neck yourself tranny

If i cant post pics of passable troons and get tons of "sauce me OP" replies and (you)s, i dont want it. /biz is unironically an lgbtq friendly board with a heavy emphasis on the T

>>49467873
based

>>49463828
Because going to Reddit for knowledge is like going to University for knowledge.

99% of everyone is a complete total fucking retard who should not have input on policy.

>>49463828
*PRRFFFFT*-(schlcp)
Oops I farded an shidded in my pants hehe

>>49463993
Based post, but, I wouldn't take it as far as comparing economics to astrology. Economics isn't a har dscience but in the 300 - 400 years of thought on the subject insightful conclusions have been reached and many of the deductive claims about the economy remain true. is it a hard science like something you can do in a lab? No.

Is it comparable to astrology? Also no.

>>49467184
Friend most of those are bots kek I don't count those

>>49467184
Or just ironic shitposting/trolling. The organic discussion here though especially when the board is slow is par none.

>>49467873
>left wing statist bullshit
I wish for a reality where I'm married to prime Monica Belluci, you wish for a reality where there are no governments and you can fuck goats in public or whatever. But the point is that, in reality, states exist and where they don't, states inevitably form. Insisting that the state of a white majority nation work in the interest of the white majority is a reasonable, moderate position that is neither left wing nor right wing. I also think that it's reasonable for the Chinese state to work in the interest of the Han-Chinese majority. Placing left/right labels on such basic, intuitive principles is the epitome libertardian autism

>>49467772
this. I wouldn't have 10x my money by giving a fuck what target was doing

Price action baby

>>49463828
/biz/ also, "ironically" does *NOT* discuss
>business
>entrepreneurship
>enterprise
>market analysis
>opportunities
>research and development

Basically, /biz/ has become hyperfixated on cryptocurrencies as a get rich quick scheme, along with other forms of purely investment.

*EVERY* other aspect of economics, finance, and business is completely ignored. Try to start a reasonable thread, it's not going to last. I've tried.

Why is this? Because 4chan users have
>no initative
>no work ethic
>no creativity
>anti-intellectualism
This affects all boards across the site. It's all about the lowest common denominator infused with indignance and obstinance that drives high quality users away and all you are left with is angry retards.

The solution is for a better site to come along. That's a legitimate business opportunity, and naturally, you'll never see /biz/ talking about it, at least not in any vein other than "Why won't someone else do something?"

>>49467873
also, you say you want to become the jew, jews don't act as a atomized libertardians who rationally maximize their individual interests,they behave as a group, they behave ethnocentrically, they behave as a coordinated monolith.

>>49467772
Sounds exactly like biz as well to be honest

>>49468383
>Basically, /biz/ has become hyperfixated on cryptocurrencies as a get rich quick scheme

Yes because its legitimately the best way to go from $X,XXX to $X,XXX,XXX in less than 5 years.

You can discuss other things but I want to use this once in a lifetime opportunity to grow my capital another 100x and then I'll divest into other potential more stable assets with streams of revenue.

Almost everyone who makes it wealthy from stocks did so by investing their net worth into a single asset and watching it carefully.

>>49468615
>Almost everyone who makes it wealthy from stocks did so by investing their net worth into a single asset and watching it carefully.
is that true?

>>49463828
we do, the uninitiated just cant read our shitposts properly.

>>49463828
The irony is, it used to be the place before Reddit got here (WSB outage). People here would rather post off topic than make money. It's actually insane. I just saw a thread a minute ago "Post your Pepes". The majority of this board post-2020 will be poor forever and will bring others here with them just by clouding the board with these shit fucking threads.

>>49468629
Yes. Andrew Carnegie talks about it. I'm paraphrasing but "When you find a Golden Goose why would you buy your eggs anywhere else? Diversifying is for retaining wealth, but concentration is for creating it."

You put all your golden eggs into one basket and then you watch it very carefully! I did that with Chainlink at $0.32 and the rest is history. It was like kismet everything I've ever read and internalized investing wise worked with LINK. Kek

You just look for the most asymmetrical risk/reward plays you can find. Always keep up on changes and news surrounding that industry or project etc. You might lose multiple times before you win. I've hit 2 winners. LINK and Telcoin. LINK is still a good buy imo insane value but Idk about Telcoin anymore I just used those for example not necessarily shilling. Telcoin weirdly had tons of financial compliance no one else did and well WEF was pushing LINK back in 2016 even since they shape publicly policy I knew it would at least grow.

>>49468696
For example
>>49467237

>>49463999
>implying
1 out of 3 times I say a based word I get banned for a few hours.

>>49468696
>>49468764
Example 2
>>49468191

If you want to get rich on /biz/ you will report these threads

>>49463828
We do. We’re about 2-5 years ahead of schedule over here.

>>49468696
>>49468764
>>49468999
Example 3
>>49464717

Are you starting to see the pattern? All 4 examples are gay fucking frog posters.

its filled with keynesian cucks using the wrong definition of inflation

>>49468696
>>49468764
>>49468790
>>49468999
>>49469175
Example 4
>>49469373

For fuck sake why

>>49468749
Bump

>>49463828
as bad as retarddit is, we can't pretend there's a good percentage of super high IQ discussions here. i'd just argue they are both hellholes for different reasons.
the overall questionable average post quality here is a worthy price to pay for being relatively unmoderated and not policing speech, especially considering how much le reddit locks down everything. i can't even call someone retarded there.

>>49468416
the average newfag? sure
the biz OGs? not a chance

>>49463828
>Why doesn’t /biz/ have serious discussions
Because it's anonymous. Lack of serious discussions is a feature.

>>49469227
i'm thinking based?

Because jannies tell you to go to /x/ or /pol/ for discussing anything other than their shitcoins.

>>49468696
>>49468764
>>49468999
>>49469175
>>49469500
Example 5
>>49469818

The trend continues.
Faggot frogposters

>>49467680
>>49467791
This
/pol/whiners are bunch of failed normalfags.

>>49468383
I discuss stock market, wagecuckery and retirement. I wish there's FX discussion here. the volatility's been great.

>>49470232
I think you misread the arguments there champ