/biz/ - Business & Finance

First with an actual stack.

Just waiting for a quiet day and I'll go and buy six more kg and see if that gives me reason to live.

In a way I envy you poor people - you have something so obvious to strive for still.

are there any precious metals besides gold, silver, platinum and palladium or is that all?

Morning frens


>>49450711
copper and alluminium, but they are not so "precious" in comparasion to others

>>49450711

>>49450677
you are really falling behind on schedule. this picture gotta be like 3 weeks old. this stack should be twice as big by now.

Fifth for Swiss Chad!

>>49450677
>you poor people
Lmfao, dumb fucking faggot posting brass bars on an anonymous board, and then trying to open his mouth to sound condescending?
Like we don't all know you are an autistic, lonely, balding shutin, that either lives with his mom, or has no woman in his life.
If you want to show off, post your identity. Let's see how tough you are irl

>>49450888
>this stack should be twice as big by now.

My crypto is doing really well while I'm not so sure about the gold chart or general PM outlook at the moment.

So I've been holding off on buying any more.

>>49451263
>Bought 10 doge coin last year
Lmfao!
Just fucking shut up and post your identity. I already know u live in London, let's meet up.
Maybe we should ask the jannies for an IP.

>>49446232
>Do you think the critics proposed fixes would make Yotsuba look worse? Because it seems like the people against the critics just don't care about their criticisms
What the fuck, I literally picked apart the criticism and said it's fair if you prefer the softer look, just don't make up shit like "it's angry / not accurate to the manga" because it's simply not true.
I personally prefer the cheekier look, since it's more fitting.

>>49448135
vol 5 chapter 29 page 14 you dumb nigger rrreeeeeee

>>49451263
Just be nice and play along.
And remember that jannies can track your ID. and anybody can apply for that position.
Not a good idea to piss off the wrong crowd, your better off on réddit for that.

>>49450677
Big Boi

>>49450520
First for Sovs

hallo

>>49450677
Checked
But you don't have enough gold to crack the Earth's crust beneath your stack's weight.

>>49451241
The envy is dripping

hello my frends i boughted a sov using echeck and now i have to wait until the 15th for it to be shipped help

>>49451291
>>49451418

Caught you samefagging.

Good luck with the Jannie application, will listen out for a knock at the door once you backtrace my consequences.

>>49452247
kek how am I samefagging? It's the same ID.
I just don't see the need to aggravate less fortunate anons. It's the small stacks that make this thread interesting. if that makes you feel good, you're a niggerfag.
I've seen you post here before and stayed impartial. But to fuck up the thread with a first post like that is an asshole move.

>>49452319
>fuck up the thread with a first post like that

>PM thread
>post some gold
>NOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!! SMALL STACKS ARE BETTER!!!!

>>49452440
I would have said real stacks.

>>49450677
wow this guy has almost enough gold to buy a shitty house in a shitty suburb! reach for the stars, kid

>>49452440
All stacks are nice stacks.
Your presentation and picture composition, top noch.
Your retarded shill sounding comments, not so much.

>>49452319
Consequences will never be the same

>>49450711
The best known precious metals are the coinage metals, which are gold and silver. Although both have industrial uses, they are better known for their uses in art, jewelry, and coinage. Other precious metals include the platinum group metals: ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium, and platinum, of which platinum is the most widely traded

>>49452248
Kek is that chocolate

>>49450677
how hard is it to afford 10 dollar brass bars? youre slacking; or i bet you arent even the original brass fag and just reusing the images

fucking lame, let this larp die and start a fresh one

>>49452632
yeah lmfao

>>49452538
that is brass

>>49450677
Holy crap, what is that, like a quarter million in gold?

Buying PMs is basically like shorting the West isn't it

>>49453055
Yeah if it was real gold. What you're seeing there is brass sold as gold bullion on Chinese Amazon Alibaba. Some anon about a month ago blew the ruse. Brass man is just posting his fake gold to con people into believing his mega rich.

>>49453055
>Holy crap, what is that, like a quarter million in gold?

$350k today

>>49450677
>poor people are worth less than me
Fuck off kike. Christ is king.

>>49453055
>>49453295
it is brass

My Three Graces bar arrived yesterday.

On the whole I'm happy with it. Faces on the middle and right woman are a bit manly and the design doesn't pop as much as I was hoping but it's still a beautiful piece.

I now have 7 oz of silver and 1/10th of an ounce of Gold and I won't be able to afford increasing my stack any time soon.

Will post reverse next

>>49453576
oops here's the picture of it

Todays arrivals.
A 3 graces bar that came out on 31st
Random drunken “I didn’t factor in postage” eBay win
Two napoleons angels from EIC. I also had 3 “1” unit Utah goldbacks arrive yesterday although I was pleased as I now have a 2019, 2020 and a 2021 version even though they are the same. In the same order I had a 1964 Kennedy half. Think I’m at 15oz or so now.

>>49453589
Twinsies fren. My postman just arrived too

>>49453589
>>49453609
hell yea brother, where did you get your angel rounds?

Unless I find cheap 5,10 etc denominations in the UK already I’ll probs not buy any more goldbacks. Think I have 6 single units and a New Hampshire “5”

>>49453640
Silver trader oop norf in the UK had about 15 or so. I usually get the EIC stuff from them, they don’t have a vast selection but they have a fair amount of stuff sold out on places like bullionbypost. They still have a Shrek if you don’t have yours yet.

Swag update. Got myself three silver coins, a Maid Marian, a Little John and a 2oz Queen's Beasts.

>>49453728
they got a website? Could you link me?

>>49453763
Silvertrader.uk

>>49453781
thank you very much fren

Is there any way to get in on the Yotsuba coins as a late backer?

>>49453840
sure
ebay /itm/265712782702

Can't wait!

I've been shoving silver coins up my necrotic neo-vagina to ward off sepsis but this will make me feel like even more of a biological woman!

>>49451263
>My crypto is doing really well
The evidence makes it difficult to believe you.

>>49450520
nice pic OP!

>>49450677
nice fake gold anon have a (You)

>>49454092
wait is that usable as legal tender

SHTF when bros?

>>49454634
only for certified allies of the LGBT movement and the state of Israel

>>49454650
risk indicator not a crash indicator
>>49454629
based lira poster

>>49454728
based lira enjoyer

love that coin anon, i need to get one

>>49454783

>>49454788
b o a t that spells moon

>>49452692
I've known a few people with real money. Not all of them were nice people. But I never saw a single one of them EVER taunt someone for being poor. And the best of them treated poor folks - especially working folks - with sincere respect. That's class.

Keep stacking and stay classy my frens.

>>49454951
jelly of ur rolling block anon

marble or MVA sight? what cartridge?

>>49455493
.45-70. The tang sight came with the Pedersoli rifle.

While searching around eBay for cheapies I came across this big lovely Mexican Caballito Peso for only $30 shipped BIN, looks legit I don't think it's a Chink fake. One of my favorite designs on earth, already have one but another $100 coin for so cheap won't hurt. Happy hunting frens.

>>49456416
I think the chinese fake fud is fear mongering. As long as it's not off alibaba and the seller is highly reviewed there is minimal risk.
ping test it and drag the magnet over it but you should be good, fren. great find!

Ok. It’s now starting to fill up my cigar box nicely.

>>49456515
>I think the chinese fake fud is fear mongering. As long as it's not off alibaba and the seller is highly reviewed there is minimal risk.

Maybe the pandabashing is FUD but I've seen gobs of chinese fakes over the years, some are quite good. I haven't really seen many with convincing wear and don't remember any fakes with light circulation dings, which this Peso seems to display on the obverse and rim. Not a "reputable" dealer as they would never sell it for less than 100 but no red flags either, probably just someone selling a coin grandpa gave them too cheap. First coin I've bought in months, been sticking to cheapie scrap almost entirely lately. Good luck stacking anon!

>>49456961
chink pandas are just zinc

Just ordered a 200AD Roman silver denarii

The Orlando Summer FUN coin show begins in a month lads! Anyone else still plan on going?

>>49452248
According to the mint mark, that coin is Kosher.

The price of everything has got me fucking spooked instead of shorting stonks I'm going to start buying physical silver I make 400$ a week after I pay off some debt this month I plan on spending atleast 400$ a month on silver what is the best advice for a stacklet in terms of what I should buy starting out? From what I understand bars are more fakeable than coins so I should buy coins but I'm not really sure what type of coin to get or if it even matters.

>>49459282
My personal recommendation is buy as close to spot as you can until you get to around 80-100oz of silver. This means mainly generic bars and rounds, with higher-weight bars generally having lower premiums. Every 20oz or so of generic I buy a numismatic piece to keep the demon at bay, but mainly care about weight:cost. If you're buying from your LCS you won't need to worry about getting fakes, as they would go out of business quickly if word got out they were doing such a thing.

>>49454728
What's the difference between risk and crash? Risk of what?

>>49459282
There are two major kinds of stacks, broadly speaking: weight and collectible. If you're stacking for weight, which it sounds like you are, you're going to be buying the cheapest options available for their metal content. This usually means generic rounds, maple leafs, or UK brits. ASEs (american silver eagles) generally command a higher premium than other coins for a couple reasons, but, broadly speaking, you should stick to whatever you can get on the cheap. We have a guy here who gets his metal for under spot because he's amazing at slurping cheap scrap silver off estate sales and the like and then refining it into .999, but that takes skill and dedication.

>>49459447
risk means volatility, crash means crash. BTC is high risk in short term to mid term investing for example

>>49459566
I think I get it. So when the MMRI is high risk, you should expect stocks to fluctuate wildly up and down with little predictability?

long time no post. hi /pmg/ frens! not much new silver lately, i've been diverting funds towards firearms because people like me are first in line for losing their 2nd amendment rights. i bought a pistol and rifle for general defense, especially for my stack. i just got in a 1 gram bar of gold. i've been telling myself that buying a 10 ounce bar of silver is next, but the marine in me loves guns, which means i need ammo too.

ive only been stacking since october, and i just want to thank everyone here for helping me develop a healthy hobby and for helping me preserve my wealth. i've never really given a shit about saving money before.

What’s with all the fags in the thread?

>>49453669
Nice goldbacks m8

>>49459623
Kind of. Something that might be reliably blue chip might be very volatile in the extreme short term due to current events. You have to understand that traders like him arent just buying/selling. He's also making calls, puts, trading on margin, shorting longing etc. A particular stock youre trading against might go up 10 cents, liquidate your position and then go down. You might have been correct in assuming it would go down but if its too volatile it can go up or down at a moments notice. Just because the risk indicator is red for a week straight doesnt mean the stocks wont pump

Got my first fake on eBay today
a replica of Bavarian Fünf Mark, only cost me 7€s so now I use it as a reference for pingtesting.
It's my fault, it was in the description somewhere that they're sold as fakes (title had "SILBER" in it though).
Of course the motherfucker was from Berlin.
At least some 5 RM came in and they're all clean like all the others I got.

>>49453747
ah, i like that frog. statue pepe.

>>49458616
Sounds pretty sweet, I probably won't be able to afford more than 2 silver proof sets and a silver ruble if people have any but the drive isn't too far. It's going to feel weird being one of the few people under 40 there that isn't being coerced to go by a relative. Think the old people are going to treat me better or worse for it?

I DCA'ed six more bars today, lads.

> 11.9 kg
> 381.5 ozt
> $710,500
> 2217lbs of silver equivalent

>>49459879
Why don't you post something besides the "gold" bars that proves you're actually rich, otherwise shut the fuck up faggot

Long time no see /pmg/, I still love gold

New Drei Mark arrived today. It's a 1914-A, a coin with Kaiser Wilhelm on it from the year WWI started.

I need proofs and evidence that chinese pandas aren't gold

>>49459871
In my experience at gun shows and in LCS's, old people enjoy talking to younger guys who are into the same hobbies as them. It makes sense, seeing your hobby passed on to the younger generations and all. If you display a genuine interest and let them chat your ear off you may make some fascinating connections, and at the very least you'll probably learn something about the hobby. I'm white and 30ish as well, and most (98%) of the boomers that go to these kinds of things also appear to be white, so let that mean what you will.

>>49460189
Yeah so far I've had good experiences buying coins at shops with being young. Sometimes the old guys even cut me a break. But I've never been to a coin show before, I hear they can be pretty cutthroat. Gun shows are based and awesome, I love those.

>>49459879
>380 ounces of brass
kek

>>49460304
>But I've never been to a coin show before
I haven't either, but I'm imagining it will be a similar atmosphere to gun shows. I go to gun shows expecting to see most booths with outrageous prices, and therefore I don't walk in expecting to spend too much. My LCS owner has had a booth at the Summer FUN before and he told me there isn't a single gold/silver anything that you can't find at it, so if you have your eyes on a unique piece you can't find on online then this may be the spot you locate it, just prepare to haggle/accept a high price. Again I've never been, so just my expectation.

What's the point? In the event of a collapse where money becomes worthless, I wouldn't trade my useful resources for shiny, heavy, useless shit.

>>49460481
The older ladies at the coin shop I went to were great. She got all kinds of stuff down off the shelf that wasn’t on display and let me trade some of my rando “world coins” against the value of stuff I wanted. I went back another day with a bunch of “rare” 50p coins and we had fun sorting them out against some actual silver I bought.

>>49460189
i agree, i'm early-mid 20s and they like seeing me around at the gold and silver shop.

>49460623 (You)
>1pbtid
low quality bait. for the record, it's a way to get enough assets to the 'other side' so you don't starve following a period of hyperinflation - an insurance policy you hope you don't have to use.
in the less extreme scenario of 70s-style stagflation, metals performed really well compared to assets like stocks. it's your money, do what you want with it.

>>49450677
Awwwwww look it needs more attention.

>>49460481
Oh I'm definitely going just to see some crazy stuff in person. It'll be like the best museum trip ever. I really want to see the high relief 24karat double eagle, high relief 1921 peace dollars, an incuse half/quarter eagle, PL Morgan dollars, US trade dollars, and weird foreign coins in person. I can't even afford any better gold than 1/4 ozt bullion pieces so no way can I buy this stuff. But looking is free! I would also like to buy some good reference books on stuff.
>>49460623
Coins are a known conduit of anxious energies released by the autistic, and thus soothe our minds. We have to keep buying more though because the coins fill up pretty quickly and start leaking the energies. That's why we put them in capsules so the aspergers won't start emitting out. And since in the collapse there won't be any 4chan for us to release our autism coins are going to be really needed. You should be thankful we're protecting you from autism beams.

>49460623
A fucking sand monkeys in protocivilizations riddled with war and famine did exchange metals. Money was not invented by governments retard

Pmg threads are pretty comfy

>>49460907
Usually are desu

>>49460765
>>49460894
Those aren't collapses.

>>49460907
>has the only good tripfags
>least amount of fighting
>no multi-thread schizophrenia
>makes real world objects relating to the thread desires such as rounds and statues
>encompasses several aspects (investing, industry, politics, coin collecting) so thread topics can be varied
Yep, I'm thinking we're the best 4chan(nel) general

my first kilo should be arriving tomorrow lads

>>49459821
>ah, i like that frog. statue pepe.

>>49460623
Shiny is useful if you survive shtf. You will be rich if you stay alive. But yea, if shtf make sure you have food, water, ammo, and shelter. And most importantly, community. Some people say you can spend shiny during shtf but retarded to draw attention to yourself like that imo.

>>49460623
>In the event of a collapse where money becomes worthless

Anon, it's fiat that becomes useless. Please, do some actual research before making stupid comments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_coin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_coin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_banking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_money
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_money
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_the_world

>>49461875
Morons let me explain how mentally retarded you are. Gold is worthless.
Gold is worthless in society collapses. Nobody uses gold in Weimar. Nobody uses gold in Venezuela. Nobody "held gold" in Weimar and "got rich" after because physical gold is a scam and nobody will buy it.
Nobody uses gold in the Black Death. Nobody used gold when Rome collapsed. All the gold stores are outside the empire because it's useless. The gold standard does not stop wars and the largest war in history was fought in the gold standard. The gold standard died because of the trade deficit, it impairs trade and not the budget deficit.
But that's not the point. The point is the stock market simply must die. Boomers live 70 years. 2% of the stock market must be sold every year for estate taxes.
It's impossible for the stock market to exceed 50x gdp. Because taxes are half, and yearly fluctuation is half, is impossible for the stock market to exceed 3x gdp or whatever people actually spend.
30% of the economy is healthcare. 10% is finance paid by interest on other things. 10% is retail. 10% is admins. 20% is government. That leaves only 30% of the economy as actual household expenditure. It's simply impossible for the stock market to exceed what people actually spend by a large multiple because estate tax and lawyers must take it when boomers die.
Us gdp is 20 trillion. The stock market is 49 trillion and bonds are 46. Real estate is 40 trillion and commercial is 16. All these assets added together are 7x gdp.
It's simply impossible for the market to keep growing when the fed is contracting. You will die at last and gold will be worthless. You'll die of peak oil in 6mo. /pmg/ is a retard board and will ignore.
>but gold 2000 years
That's literally the duration of Jewish influence on the west

>>49459282
>after I pay off some debt
Slave

>>49459637
mmm, milky

>>49461966
>Gold is worthless in society collapses.
Gold coins have been used since 600BC and can be traded without banks or governments. Same goes for silver.

>>49462072
This is may have been true, until the invention of BTC. With Bitcoin we no longer need shiny rocks for transactions.

>>49462179
If you don’t physically have it, you don’t own it. Simple as. Christ is King.

>>49461966
okay bye

>>49462179
Just power, microchips, internet. Nothing too reliant on the grid.

Precious metals are stupid. First, they are worthless with no industrial applications that copper can't do better. At the rate they're being mined, and with how much is left in the Earth's crust, they will be worthless by 2030. I mean you will literally be able to get paid hauling silver out of people's basements. Second, asteroid mining is coming which will easily quadruple the supply. Third, you CANNOT EAT gold or silver, and they will be completely worthless in the event of a collapse. You will be trading a 10oz bar of gold for a box of .22LR to hunt squirrels for meat if you're lucky, more likely for a small bag of dried rice. Finally, in this SHTF scenario, if any raiders hear about your hoarded PM's, they'll shoot you and take them.

>>49462358
Precious metals are worthless in the event of a collapse. People will shoot you and take them. Do you hear yourself?

>>49462397
Just because metals are worthless doesn't mean there won't be other retards like you who still want to take them from you.

Oxygen are stupid. First, they are worthless with no industrial applications that copper can't do better. At the rate they're being breathed, and with how much is left in the Earth's atmosphere, they will be worthless by 2030. I mean you will literally be able to get paid hauling air out of people's lungs. Second, forest mining is coming which will easily quadruple the supply. Third, you CANNOT EAT AIR, and they will be completely worthless in the event of a collapse. You will be trading a 10oz Oxygen for a box of .22LR to hunt squirrels for meat if you're lucky, more likely for a small bag of dried rice. Finally, in this SHTF scenario, if any raiders hear about your hoarded air, they'll shoot you and take them.

>>49462179
>This is may have been true
There's no "may have", it is true. Gold and silver are commodity money. You hear that, commodity money. This means it isn't a social construct.

>until the invention of BTC. With Bitcoin we no longer need shiny rocks for transactions.
What do you need to use BTC anon? Oh that's right, a centralized system storing the information. What would happen if that information is cutoff. That's right, those numbers disappear into the ether. I'm not even against the idea of BTC, I just know there's a guarantee with precious metals because you can't create those rare elements without enormous pressure from an exploding star.

>>49462428
Then there will be other retards like who will trade them.

>>49462428
.....which means that they do indeed have value. Here's your (you), you ungrateful creature, now sneed off and slither back into whatever rank hole you came from.

>>49462358
>PMs will be completely worthless in a collapse, a 10 oz bar of Gold will buy you a bag of rice at best
>If anyone finds out about your PMs, they'll kill you and take them
Make up your mind anon.

>>49462428
Piss is worthless. Will the fallout TM raiders steal my piss jugs?

>>49461966
>Nobody uses gold in Weimar. Nobody uses gold in Venezuela
stopped reading right there. they did, and they do in Venezuela. kys
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-20/venezuelans-break-off-flakes-of-gold-to-pay-for-meals-haircuts

>>49450520
Zoomer anon, what do you people do I want to drop out of college?

>>49462179
>muh buttcorn
no electricity, your shitcoin becomes literal shit. lmao.

>>49462597
Professional 4channer

>>49462547
>Will the fallout TM raiders steal my piss jugs?

Considering the looming global fertilizer and food crisis those piss jugs will be regarded as liquid gold soon.

>>49462428
>Another buttcorner
lmao, enjoy your centralized, traceable, unfungible ponzi. all i use it for is making money on hodl retards. same with all crypto, maybe besides monero.

I said earlier I didn’t want anymore goldbacks. But now I do. Why are they so cool…. Might try and grab another couple of the Nevada and New Hampshire ones. Then wait for Wyoming and the other state whose name I forget whenever they come out. Checking eBay, but most of the US sellers have shipping that’s not worth it. Is that added automatically as it’s “currency” / bullion

>>49462933
I meant added taxes/import , not shipping.

>>49460824
>It'll be like the best museum trip ever.
That is my primary motivation for going. I'm sure I'll pick up some awesome pieces, but I'm mainly just looking forward to seeing rare and unique stuff I never see at my local LCS. Gun shows are fun for that as well, because I can't afford an stg-44 but I sure as hell want to hold one! I met a guy at a gun show a few years back who I met up with again at a range and he let me fire a drum through his pre-ban thompson for nothing more than the cost of the bullets. I may just bring a set amount of cash because I know I'll be tempted to blow my next month's budget on some awesome coins though.

Why gold? I'd rather have diamonds and rubies and shit. Gems are way cooler than soft metals. I might actually trade some water or bullets for an emerald.

>>49462688
Anon what

>>49463235
Are you retarded? Do you not understand. bitcoin is literally useless. The only purpose of a crypto is to function as a currency. Bitcoin cant do that since its not fungible. Retard

>>49463207
>I'd rather have diamonds
If it wasn't already obvious you were trolling, well.

>>49463311
Traceable? Centralized? It won't become a primary currency anytime soon but it plays a role that nothing else does, or can. Stop throwing words around that you don't understand. I bet you can't define fungible without looking it up.

>>49459871
>Think the old people are going to treat me better or worse for it?

In my experience you get treated way better. I started collecting coins in kindergarten thanks to exposure from dad and gramps, and being an autist I developed a deep and sincere interest so when dad took me to shops and coin shows the dealers seemed to delight in chatting with me and giving discounts on the modest pieces I was interested in. Even now as an adult I get unsolicited discounts offered by the old boomers so I figure you'll do fine if you're not a tedious sperg.

>>49463041
>I may just bring a set amount of cash because I know I'll be tempted to blow my next month's budget on some awesome coins though.

If you're there near closing or on the last day know that some dealers are much more willing to haggle and sell cheap just to move inventory and boost their cash flow than they will be on opening day morning. If you're bringing a decent wad to blow either way you should at least try to get some discounts if not outright cheapies.

>>49463335
Maybe diamonds wasn't the best example for a number of reasons but still, I'd prefer gems to gold or silver.

what if someone paid a tik tok influencer to say that rubbing old silver coinage on their acne is the best way to get clear skin and all the zoomers get in a rush to buy morgies

>>49463368
>its plays a role that nothing else does or can
Literally any crypto can play the same role. Monero for example does everything bitcoin can but better
Fungible is easy, divisible without being able to tell where it came from. Like gold. Like silver. Like Monero. Not like bitcoin

>>49463368
Here is pop quiz retard. Define "Cryptocurrency"

>>49463400
>I'd prefer gems to gold or silver.

Nothing wrong with having personal preferences, opal and ammolite are my favorite gems, but literal rocks are highly subjective nonfungible luxury items with a far more limited and thin market than precious metals and which require more experience and expertise to navigate than metals.

my posts are not posting?

>>49463800
no cant see anything

>>49463585
Hell, I'd pay money for a video of zoomers rubbing filthy junk silver on their faces to try and clear up acne.

>>49463207
>(((diamond)))
If i were you i'd rather shut the fuck up since you clearly have not a single clue what you're talking about. But please, be our guest, invest on a shiny version of one of the most common element on this planet who can be made industrially for few bux, and tell us how it's doing for you.

>>49463854
Artificial gold exists too, anon. And unless you've invested in the equipment and knowledge to identify it, then it's the same thing.

>>49463965
oh my.

>>49463800
>>49463835
I posted a question twice and it said post sucessful as usual
I was saying that europeanmint sent an email that they lowered premiums on britannias
right now 25,18e for a britannia
any europeans seen a cheaper price?
I'm not sure whether to buy some tubes of britannias or the goddess europa coins as they're just 23,8
not sure how much they lowered their britannia premiums by. I can find them for 25,90 26,32 27,09
is 25,18 a really good deal in Europe atm for britannias?

>>49464026
Hello? I cant see anything still

>>49463965
Bruh

>>49463854
Yup, diamonds are grown now. There's some interesting conflict with corporations wanting to protect their mined diamonds.

>>49464049
Who are you talking to?

>>49463998
>>49464064
Since we're just posting nonsense and no arguments or info, who hurt you?

>>49464099
dumb nigger faggot fuck off to whatever twitter thread you came from

>>49464099
Hahahahaha

>>49464049
yes you can
lately I've been buying only the cheapest silver ounces but britannias are objectively better but not sure if their premiums are that low.

Just bought 100 brittanias and 1 oz gold (little hero nugget) for $4850
How did I do?

>>49464125
>>49464140
If you could read, you'd know that I already took back the bit about diamonds, and specified other things like rubies or emeralds. If you could think, you'd know that in the proposed scenario it wouldn't even matter if it was artificial or if the supply was previously manipulated, because none of that would matter anymore.

Better luck next time.

>>49464074
Rubies are also grown, and the main way to tell the difference between a synthetic ruby and a mined ruby is that synthetic rubies are flawless lol. I'm no expert though so don't take my word for it, but I've seen some synthetic rubies and they look great and are significantly cheaper than mined rubies.

>>49464074
>>49464226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiQ-qINi5ng

Largest grown diamond as of 2017. This is bigger than I thought they had gotten.

>>49464223
>If you could read
>If you could think
>Better luck next time.

>>49464306
Dear god. You seem to know a bit on the subject, what would you estimate it costs them to create a diamond that large? Not counting machinery and such of course, just raw material. I can't imagine it's that much, but I don't know shit.

>>49464210
whats little hero nugget

>>49464363
An aussie coin

>>49463207
>Haha stoopid boomers buying rare shiny rocks
>I will rather buy literal rock made of most abundant elements on earth that can be industrialy manufactured in unlimited quantity

>>49464359
I know as much as you anon, I'm just a pure observer to these developments. I'm of the opinion that there's no limit to the size they can get if you have the machinery big enough to do it. In the future there will be safes made of diamonds as it's one of the hardest structures in the universe.

>>49464210
Seems ok. About what I’d expect

>>49463965
yup, trolling confirmed

>>49464074
Interesting at the bottom, looks like legally they're not allowed to treat synthetic diamonds differently than natural diamonds anymore by not being able to call them "synthetic" without it being "deceptive", and mention of "synthetic" is dropped from the certification process.

I can't decide whether that means the lab grown competition is winning, or slowly being absorbed by the diamond monopoly.

>>49463207
>i might actually trade some water or bullets for an emerald
Based and villagerpilled.

>>49464467
>In the future there will be safes made of diamonds as it's one of the hardest structures in the universe.
I can think of any number of things I want made of diamonds. Diamond-core bullets are the first thing that spring to mind.

>>49463965
>Artificial gold exists too, anon.
The cost is more expensive than mining it and the results have left it extremely radioactive. We're also talking about thousands of atoms, not thousands of ounces.

>>49464026
>25,18e for a britannia
It's a really great price, cheapest i can find over her are 25.90€.
That said my fav online store have a promo on Noah's Arks for 24.50€ and they are the cheapest gubment minted coins i can find online rn. And the design is gorgeous.

>>49464556
Lab grown instantly takes it out of the hands of land owners and also guarantees that no immoral labor practices were used such as children.

>>49464671
where do you buy noah's ark?
is it acheter-or-argent?
I ordered over a month ago and it's just shipped today literally. would like to find a not-shit seller of noah's ark as I love those

>>49464026
If you're from the UK anon, all Britannias are Capital Gains Tax free so you've got the benefit of that. Also the new Britannias have excellent security features making it very hard to be duped into buying fakes and makes it easier to sell to people who just want a sure thing.

https://youtu.be/nyFFT39aKy0

anyone actually worried about deflation?

>>49462358
>they will be worthless by 2030
>Second, asteroid mining is coming
lol
lmao

>>49464223
Hahahahahaha

>>49464700
I'm looking at it from an economical point of view, where competition using superior technology would lower the cost of the product for the consumers, rather than a monopoly artificially keeping the price high through monopolistic control to milk the consumers.

If the diamond monopoly just adopts lab grown, crushes the competition, and stays a monopoly thereby keeping prices artificially high, the consumers don't get it any better. If the diamond monopoly is toppled, you'd still get children miners out of a job (until they get hired making iPhones or something), but the diamond prices should drop for the consumers.

>>49464893
>Everyone is talking about inflation
>Everyone's energy bills have gone up
>Money printer go brrr over covid period has depressed everyone's fiat money that we're only just starting to feel
>Russia being a global supplier of artificial fertilizer has bumped the price up for food due to sanctions, will take a decade for the world to set up nuclear power plants to produce an alternative source

Fuck no, not until 2030.

>>49464970
It's impossible for them to monopolize now, the tech is going to get better/cheaper and with carbon being one of the most abundant elements in the world you wouldn't be able to hoard it either. You would have to convince the entire world governments that you are to be the only source of diamonds. It's over for these diamond mines, they are already terminal just on that 2017 synthetic diamond alone.

hallmark bros I need your help. Need to know if this is plated or not

>>49464997
yeah but gov may overreact, they are promising ridiculous return on bonds now, trying to suck money out of the system. i dont think it will happen but it is a possibility nonetheless, in which case our boomer rocks were probably the absolute worst things to spend money on

>>49464719
>is it acheter-or-argent?
Yes
>I ordered over a month ago and it's just shipped today literally
Really? That's weird i never got any issue dealing with them, i ordered a dozen times from them over the years and never had to complain. I often had to wait between 3 days and a week, but never more.
That said, as long as you receive your order safely, it's all that matter. I mean 1 month is a bit slow i admit, but it could be worse.

For example i bought during the march 2020 dip 4x 5kg bars from achat-or-argent and it was the WORST experience ever. I had to threaten them with a legal lawsuit before they accepted to deliver my stuff. I got them in fucking november 2020. 9 fucking MONTHS before i could get my hands on what i paid for.
And they called me countless times asking me to cancell my order under all kind of fallacies, then proposed me to buyback my order. At first for 500€, then 1K, then 2K, then 2.5K, then 3K... lol!
These fuckers sold way more metals than what they had in stocks and it backfired big time during the early scamdemic run on gold and silver.
On top of that, all online sellers had their calculating algos being (spot+1.5/2€ premium per oz), and when it plunged for a day to $12 is when i went all in. Got 20kg for 14€/oz. But they themselves couldn't order at those prices later on as it bounced back very quickly, and they had to modify their price algos afterward to avoid this situation in the future. But this one day, big stores lost a shit ton of money.

Anyway, always refused their offers. Always told them to fuck off and gimme my shiners.
In the end, they didn't even send me the bars, i had to move to their store to get it, and it wasn't even the bars i asked for! But at this point i simply was happy to get my hands on the metal and gave up asking for the brand i ordered.
I left the worst evaluation possible on every consoomer website i could find tho. :)

Never buy from achat-or-argent fren.

>>49464226
That's crazy, I didn't know they could make rubies now too.

>>49464580
Lol

>>49465080
>in which case our boomer rocks were probably the absolute worst things to spend money on
Yes fellow goys. The definitely also a fellow goy over here, is right. Stop buying metals. Its bad for business. Buy our… I mean government bonds instead.

>>49465132
>That's crazy, I didn't know they could make rubies now too.
They've been making them since the 1850s if memory serves. They had the technology to mass-produce them since I was at least a kid over 20 years ago (when I first learned about the process).

>>49450677
Brassy.

>>49465174
Or buy non perishable foods, ammo, and water storage/procurement. Y'know. Useful things.

>>49465077
Its got a French flower on it. Maybe look into French hallmarks.

>>49465204
To expand on this, google tells me they've been mass-producing artificial diamonds since the start of the 1900s.

>>49465246
artificial rubies*

>>49465216
>He can’t eat silver
NGMI
>He can’t drink silver
NGMI
>His weapons aren’t made of silver
NGMI
>His bullets aren’t made of silver
NGMI
>His clothes aren’t made of silver
NGMI

>>49465174
The problem is that the value of gold is not something that makes sense in the modern era. We hold onto the idea of its value almost out of tradition, but it no longer makes sense. During the collapse you want to hold actual tangible assets like food, ammo and Bitcoin.

>>49465229
Frog here, those aren't french hallmarks. Idk the origin but it aint french for sure.

>>49465268
The problem is that the value of air is not something that makes sense in the modern era. We hold onto the idea of its value almost out of tradition, but it no longer makes sense. During the collapse you want to hold actual tangible assets like food, ammo and Bitcoin.

>>49465268
>bitcoin

>>49465268
>tangible
>Bitcoin
Hahahahaha

>>49465268
>tangible assets like food, ammo and... Bitcoin

>>49465290
the flower might be Sheffield but the french looking symbols and the IHS no idea

>>49465131
good that you stayed on your path to get the silver! well done
and a nice catch getting silver at that price dump

achat-or-argent had better reviews on trustpilot than acheter-or-argent, which have barely any, which at one point made me wonder if they scammed me
I've ordered from 5 different stores in EU and they always ship within a few days. but acheter-or-argent, just 4 tubes of noah's arks they told me 2 weeks, then next week, then 2 days and a week passed and then they said 2 days again. I want to get a monster box but not sure from where. I dont trust acheter-or-argent anymore, with like €10k it's a too big risk

>>49465293
>comparing gold to air
Are you jewish, perhaps?

>>49465558
Take the schizophrenia medicine now. Your outing alt.

Are you guys mostly shiny rocks masximalist, or do you have other investments, if so which?

Besides Silver I stack Monero.
I hold stock shares for 6-12 months to buy more shiny rocks with the gains. Betting on a collapse and reset

>>49465661
glowing rocks

>>49465613
Keep on buying the metallic jew. Bankers love you

>>49465718
uranium?

>>49465457
>hey told me 2 weeks, then next week, then 2 days and a week passed and then they said 2 days again
Not very pro from them indeed..

>I want to get a monster
Damn that's some big boi purchase. Do you plan to sit on the cash and wait for a dip to save some $$?
What is the store proposing the best offer so far?

>>49453669
How are there so many '64 kenny's? I got a whole roll of them when I bought halves. They don't sount fake and I'm to lazy to take them to someone with a verifier... Were they just super abundant or did boomers refuse to melt 'muh camelot' for scrap?

>>49465661
metal
monero
land


(also wife and food, but those are for use and not trade...)

>>49465736
>Bankers love you
>Banks actively hoard metals while promoting against it
Make up your mind kike.

>>49465999
I guess they just made a lot. You can still get full 64 halves in their original rolls from apmex.

>>49465999
Super abundant, the fucker got shot so they made him a coin

>>49466061
Oh no, please don't buy my useless metal at exorbitant prices!

lads, just tell me, do I dump another £600 into gold tomorrow? feels like shit's getting real

>>49466338
That almost 2 sovs. What were you going to get? A sov and a 5 franc or something? Probs ok if you can afford it.

>>49466321
>useless
>Buy bitcoin
>Gold, silver, and copper are essential to make computers work so you can see your numbers on screen

>>49466338
Are your essentials covered? Then yeah why not?

>>49466400
i was going to get four more 1/10 oz gold britannias, to bring my total to 1 oz gold. i've got 53 oz of silver so not sure whether to chase 100 oz silve first

>>49465661
Monero for a cyberpunk dystopia. Silver for a fallout dystopia. Seeds for a civil collapse. Lead for all of the above. 401k because nothing ever happens. Right now it's mostly seed, land, and farming tools.

quints?

>>49450520
Just learning about stacking here,
I wanna buy my first silver, should I buy rounds or coins, if coins is there any difference from which countries' mint it's from or should I only mind the price to weight?

Thanks in advance.

>>49466693
Buy whatever you think looks cool, just know that theyll all be worth the same when you sell.

>>49466693
Rounds are best per oz in most cases. Coins are better if you think you might change your mind later down the line and sell them back to a coin shop. They might carry a bit more sway if you're trading them with a boomer. Stay away from Chinese pandas and buy reputable you'll be fine

>>49466693
Buy 20 shreks

>>49466693
>>49459515

>>49466748
>>49466811
>>49466812
>>49466857

Thanks for the advice frens

>>49456908
Enough with the pretty stuff. You need some tubes of plain old prairie niggers.

>>49454951
that a nice gun sir!

>>49459404
Great advice for a new stacker anon.

>>49465661
I like shiny. I can't into stonks and crypto.

>>49466321
>exorbitant prices!
Crabbing cheap for two months. I'll take these prices any day.

>>49459879
I wish I could rub that delicious brass all over my body

>>49466605
Go silver and stop buying fractional gold.

>>49465661
>do you have other investments, if so which?
hard assets: 4wd truck, engine and woodworking tools, specialized tools for making ammunition, firearms, supplies, food stores, water, library, etc.

soft assets: working on a degree

>>49467325
nice
What do you study?

>>49467361
Socioeconomic policies and their impact on women.

>>49467361
a BA in Ass Kicking

>>49450520
beauty of a sov op, is that yours?

>>49450520
Do 20 Franc coins count as Sovereigns?

>>49467504
yup, any 22k coin of around 8g weight is considered a sov, as long as it's issued by a gov mint

>>49464640
Bros redditors were right..... basedence is cool
>>49461966
Gold predates jewish influence

>>49467431
>a Bare Ass in Ass kickin'
how embarassing

opinions? bit much for a sov, but it is a proof and a special needs edition

>>49467667
>Lizard Queen coin
idk brosef. nice digits tho

Since I started posting here back in april 2020, I've accumulated 782 ounces of silver and 4 ounces of gold. I've spent a little under $25k on all this, and according to my spreadsheet I'm down $7300. I thought I would be mad about this but I've never been more content and comfy in my life. I love my shinies.
I just bought another kilo bar.

>>49466321
>exorbitant prices
>spot few cents away from being lower than extraction's costs for primary silver miners
Giving no space to breathe for the mining industry is accelerating your downfall, rabbi. Worst tactic ever unless you are all-in shorting silver miners.

If i were you i'd relieve some pressure on spot price, let say around $27-28, just enough to incentivize miners to open new mining operations so the offer could be in line with demand, but not enough to provoke some FOMO among retail.

But your current strategy is beyond retarded. By starving the industry to death with an unrealistic spot while exploitation's costs (mainly diesel) are skyrocketting, you will only manage to kill 30% of the production, and the demand wont be met by the byproduct silver producers. And the latter having a completely inelastic production, you doom yourself to spot price being so disconnected with reality most silver net exporters will simply refuse your pricetag. Which is the main goal of the comex : scam foreign nations, forcing them to export their silver to the US for way less than it's truly worth, and pay them in literal toilet paper on top of that.

>>49467857
i don't even bother keeping track of how much I spend, my PMs are a long term investment, doubt I'll ever sell

>>49467857
I suppose you aren't pricing in the premiums in your spreadsheet, thus explaining the 7k gap?

>>49467857
it'll be back up again sooner or later. remember silver spot was around $50/oz at a peak about a decade ago

>>49466748
>they'll all be worth the same
This isn't true at all and I have no idea why you faggots are so ignorant to the numismatic value of a lot of these coins.

>>49467504
I'd say the Bri'ish sov is distinct enough for the label to only refer to them. They also have different weight AND purity standards than LMU coins (sovs are actual 22 karat vs LMU's 90% or 21.6k).
Most franc coins in existence also do not feature an actual sovereign on any of its sides.
I think it's less confusing if other gold currencies are just referred to as Francs/Lira/Gulden/Marks/Dinars/etc.

>>49467991
oh. oh well, "sovereigns" such as so-called royalty, all deserve the rope anyways.

>>49465216
>ability to transfer large quantities of value concentrated in small volume is not useful thing
>exchang of goods for goods are efficient
>one person can be self sufficient

>>49468043
kinda boring mate, not our fault your republic is sovlless

>>49468072
we've got better than sovs
we've got George Washington

>>49468043
Only the british ones

So I'd love to fill the second box with Kaiserreich Marks but they're way too pricey and mostly sold by high premium scalperniggers, wonder what a good coin would be.
Has to be silver, at least .625, and relatively cheap in goymoney so it's gotta be something european which was printed in bulk. Once I pondered and researched enough, I shall report back.
Another idea would be putting the RM into that and using the small one for some austrian coins or something

>>49468093
>Win revolution with the help of France, Dutch, and various German states all ruled by nobles

>>49467936
I'm pricing what I paid against what the current price of silver is. So yeah, I'm not accounting for what I would potentially get if I walked into a coin shop right now. I imagine any ASEs I have are completely wrong.
I also don't count my extra fondler silver stack. So I have more silver and I'm undervaluing it.

>>49464671
https://www.europeanmint.com/2022-1oz-tokelau-silver-bull-bear-coin/
In case you don't mind Tokelau consider these, but they also take a lot of time to deliver right now. I ordered 1st of may and still no notice. They were fine in November.

>>49468093
>we've got better than your based christian depictions of saints slaying dragons
>we've got a freemason
fucks sake

>>49466693
My usual pasta, assuming you have money to spare (having at least a month's wages saved in cash for emergencies):
You've decided you want to 'stack' PM. What should you buy?
- For generic bars with no design, watch the markups over spot: you often pay high premiums for smaller pieces. You're buying because you have faith in PM prices going up. You want to pay the lowest premium.
- When a new series of artful or themed bullion (especially coins) comes out, buy a few of the first of the series - they are usually missed by later collectors who will pay high premiums to fill in the series. Consider the potential for overall series popularity - generic series have a higher failure rate.
- Buy interesting coins while they're still being minted. Once the mintage stops and dealers run out of stock, the prices jump then rise more slowly but still faster than plain silver. Maples, Eagles, Wieners, Britannias, etc. are all nice but boring. They may add a privy to make them more collectible and gin up the price. Buy stuff that changes designs from year to year: Somali elephants, Canadian Wildlife, Australian kookaburras or koalas, island nations' series, etc. These become series.
- Buy pieces that appeal to your sense of art, taste, and interests! These will still feel good even if the price or value of the PM goes nowhere. Caveat: if you go to sell, it's harder to part with them.
- Some beautiful generics are priced comically high (Germanias, e.g.) - they don't follow the market trends as readily, and usually garner highest resale price only for a few years after the mintage. The drawback: dealers may treat and price these as "generic" and offer only their standard buyback price as generic.
- If free shipping is offered, buy enough to take advantage of that. Although it's shipping (not directly PM), it's an added premium.
- Keep a spreadsheet of your purchases!!! You should track profit/loss over time. It's quite revealing.

>>49468168
Britbong sovereigns fit that same category. UK Delenda Est

>>49468189
not really mate, but cope on

>>49468168
>>49468141
fuck around and find out

>>49468260
When the britbong lands on new soil, what does he build first? A house and a church? Or a lodge and a bank?

>>49468267
you did

>>49468300
Do you not know how that war ended?

>>49468300
>Historically inaccurate painting due to the white house not even being white until the repairing of it.

My master cylinder is leaking break fluid.....

>>49468300
you will pay for that one day

>>49466941

>>49468168
Especially ironic since all males who were on this coin, fit the bill.

>>49468398
We need a UK Delenda Est coin. Queen lynched on obverse, London burning on reverse encircled by UK Delenda Est.

>>49468358
This happened to me and I literally drove a thousand miles with almost no brakes

>>49468429
A good quenn lynching does give me a bit of a hard on

>>49468358
Keep adding brake fluid.
Keep stacking.

>>49465893
that's what I can't decide whether to buy a britannia monsterbox, noah's ark or tokelau coins. considering dealers only pay spot back in the end it's maybe wiser to buy tokelau, but fewer dealers sell tokelau so they might not be interested in buying.
>>49468155
I got a delivery last week from europeanmint so seems to be no problems with deliveries so no worries
my #1 go to shop
and as I wrote earlier, they sent an email that britannias (and kangaroos, philharmonics) have less premiums now. but they're still pretty expensive
tokelaus are great but if one does sell in the future, maybe there'd not be that many dealers interested in buying tokelau coins (for some reason) vs britannias
as an example celticgold and tavid both have buyback prices listed on their website, but they dont sell tokelau coins meaning they might not buy them either.

>>49468380
Now we have a bunch of softies and queers. Someone please invade.

>>49468471
well yeah, it's the ultimate "1 oz is 1 oz" coin
also I like bears. So I have like 120.

>>49468337
>>49468316
wonderful news for someone who cares

>>49461966
I generally agree with what you're saying, anyone who think we will return to the gold standard is delusional. It constrained economic growth for decades. But this
>Nobody used gold when Rome collapsed.
is wrong, redominating around the solidus is a huge part of the reason the eastern Roman empire survived after the west's collapse.

>>49468492
I'm convinced that's a psyop to make china think we're soft. I'd say Russia too but they just showed the world how utterly incompetent they are.

Something came in the mail today guess what it is?

>>49468683
>I'm convinced that's a psyop to make china think we're soft.
As if the feds are that good

>>49468720
Thumbnail made me think it was a wheel of cheese.

>>49468523
>slays a dog
>only needs a constant army of at least 10,000 men surrounding him to guard and protect him from anything that could possibly happen

step aside sovcucks

>>49468588
>return to the gold standard
The "gold standard" is bankster controlled, who in the fuck wants that tied to gold. We're in an age where trade is rapid and can get the tools to spot fakes.

>It constrained economic growth for decades
Yes (((economic growth))), not Human Development Index, that's not important, it's all about (((economic growth))) and big state management.

You wanna know why it constrained economic growth? It's because you can't cheat numbers. I don't think an entire economy should be solely under the mercy of a couple of rare types of rocks, but I do think that fiat and central banking has had its day due to the abuse from banksters and government officials.

>>49468683
We had young men storm the beaches at Normandy, facing almost certain death. Now we have a bunch of bitches an heroing because they've been in dry dock for 18 months. Fucking. Soft.

>>49468818
I'm sure if we throw a bunch of zoomers in boats and tell them we'll shoot them if they don't drop on a beach then they'll storm that beach too. The majority of US soldiers in ww2 were draftees, there by force.

>>49468447
>>49468380
I was potentially driving hundreds of miles while it was leaking and l wasn't even aware of it up until recently when they became super stiff.
I just bought a new master cylinder and power break booster for like $100 online so it's not a huge biggie.....

>>49468720
a hat

>>49468899
>The majority of US soldiers in ww2 were draftees
Official federal data backs this up for those wondering. Although this is also true for any major army in the war.

>>49468899
They also didn't actively hate their country, had experience with guns before, weren't on antidepressants, and weren't chugging s*y and estrogen pills

>>49468899
I think you missed my point. But okay.

>>49468720
Pippi cost me $130

>>49468899
Those Young Men grew up during the great depression today's young men have only known Clown World.

>>49469047
>also didn't actively hate their country
If they knew what they were really fighting for, they’d had turned around.

>>49468818
>>49469028
>We had young men storm the beaches at Normandy, facing almost certain death.
You had people who were raised during the depression given the chance to get out of poverty, the sons of farmers who wanted literally anything else out of life, and the draftees who faced actual death if they didn't do as they were told.
I won't take anything away from what they did that day or days after, but don't paint it like they were told what normady would even be like the day they signed up. I'm sure if someone gave them the option to bombard germany and japan with cruise missiles till they surrendered and nobody they knew died, they would take it.

>>49469047
>They also didn't actively hate their country
Most zoomers don't hate the US in my experience.
> had experience with guns before
That is what bootcamp is for.
>weren't on antidepressants
Also bootcamp
>weren't chugging s*y and estrogen pills
Shouldn't effect their ability to have a gun pointed at them and told to do something.

Believe me, I hate the shit hole this country has become as much as you, but never underestimate the government's ability to force their populace to war.

>>49469082
todays young men are about to know a whole lot worse than the great depression

>>49469066
Was your point not that the US can't defend itself? Honestly asking and not being a dick, I come here for discussions.

>>49469090
Damn right. Now I'd rather just shoot a few draft officers first and at least die a free man before serving the ZOG and dying in a shithole battlefield.
>>49469113
zoomers sure but most people over the age of 20 seem to hate it. The left hate it for legalizing guns, being capitalist racist sexist etc while the right hate it for a billion reasons.

>>49469082
>great depression
Grew up on the welfare nigga. Reliant on the feds and ready to serve for more gibs, unlike previous generations.

>>49469133
I doubt it. Junk food and mind numbing consoomerism is too plentiful. Even if we had a major stock market crash, most zoomies live at home, and the home is paid for. If supply chain issues really become a thing, the corporations will prioritize the fast food industry, and mcdoubles and fried chicken will still be around. We've become a very cheap society when it comes to maintaining basic needs.

>>49469113
Zoomers had to go to holocaust class

>>49469156
Plenty of people hate our government, but don't hate the idea of the United States. If it came to a foreign power invading I'm sure plenty of people who "hate the US" would hate the foreign invader more, especially when war-propaganda gets pumped up and the invader all of a sudden is threatening your friends and family directly (as the government would tell you they are). A foreign invasion could very easily be a blessing for the kikes ruling us, which is a good thing it will never happen.

>>49469134
My point being today's soldier can't hack 18 months on a ship at port so kills self. Several of them did this. Even though they were draftees forced into the war, past soldiers weren't little girls. Am I wrong?

>>49469168
Plenty of them ate that propaganda hard. I've had to convince so many zoomers I know that Israel is NOT our greatest ally. So many of them trod out that phrase when Israel is brought up that I now know to expect it in the first few minutes of the conversation. A quick rundown of the USS Liberty usually clears that up for them.

>>49469237
I see. I disagree with you that most can't hack it. Boot camp can work wonders for turning a lazy, spineless piece of shit into at least the semblance of a human. Especially when your option is bootcamp or a bullet/prison. When I got out of the military the zoomer gen was just entering it, and most of them adapted fine, without the threat of force.

>>49469291
Youre so fucking delusional, boot camp doesnt do shit.
>.t active duty

>>49469237
Todays US armyperson TM, is just there for the gibs. They don’t say “I want to serve my country.” They say “AYO SHIET NIGGA GIBS ME DAT WELFARE CHECK AN DUH FREE COLLAGE MAN WIT THE 10 THOUSAND SIGN ON BONUS FOR MUH LEASED MUSTANG!” They are solely reliant on the feds. They will serve them to the very end if promised more gibs.

>>49469198
Certainly, and that's my idea as well about the US. But I'm not willing to die for this rotten husk of a country when it damn well won't provide anything greater for me. The only cause I even care about is gun rights, that's it. Everything else in life I have generalized apathy for. I'm done with caring.

>>49469251
>A quick rundown of the USS Liberty usually clears that up for them.

>>49469304
I disagree. Today's soft-ass boot camp still works fine, and if we faced a real threat then boot camp wouldn't be so soft. A handful of sailors killing themselves a year is not a big problem.

>>49469291
>Especially when your option is bootcamp or a bullet/prison
I'd rather put a bullet in a truancy officer than fight for NATO

>>49469355
You and me both brother, but I wonder how many think the same. When the very real possibility of certain death is in the average person's face, I'd bet they pick the chance of surviving. Just my opinion on the matter.

>>49469355
Dubs for a sane man’s reasonable response.

>>49469387
That's fair, average people are psychotic these days and I've always been the one to rush in

>>49469341
LMao The people in the military today are disgusting lazy piece of shit morons and retention is falling by the minute, A draft would be impossible in todays world.

>>49469291
>zoomer gen was just entering it, and most of them adapted fine
In the past five years I've never worked with anyone under the age of 30 that was worth a piss. Three kids quit my company in the past week. I'm twice their age and they are lazy, whiny, and have zero work ethic. Maybe the military does some of them some good, but from what I've heard, the standards have been lowered and you can't hurt anyone's fee fees.

>>49469444
Military does NOT do them any good, its nothing but diversity hires and women who do nothing but lower standards

>>49469251
>bruh no cap but that USS Liberty Mutual thing happened like 50 years ago fr
>Why does it matter?

>>49469421
>LMao The people in the military today are disgusting lazy piece of shit morons
For the most part I agree
>retention is falling by the minute
I was surprised it was still as high as it was (not very high) when I was in. But if you don't have a choice to stay in (or the choice is a bullet/prison or stay in) then I don't think retention would be an issue.
>A draft would be impossible in todays world.
I disagree for the many reasons I've stated, though I dearly wish it were the case.

I'll stop this rant of mine though, as this is pmg and I waste space in here with my off-topic nonsense enough as it is.

>>49469481
Literal kike haircut

>>49469421
>A draft would be impossible in todays world.
There has been an ongoing draft since the 80s using a college education as leverage. They figured out if you can't force people to go, you stack the deck against them where it's either that or a meth habit.

>>49469563
Whole military is a welfare program.

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Trannies ruin everything they touch.

>>49461966
autist

>>49468588
Thats why the brits told the americans not to peg only to fucking gold but to silver and when they left the bimetalic system they fucked themselves completely.
It's over anyways why the fuck do you care about what is or isn't a good monetary system, this one sucked and is about to end, survive this shit then talk.

Kek