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>>49382824
What if I dont create any accounts then? jews dont steal my data?

>>49382824
i fucking hate how this shit is becoming so normalized
we need to create some sort of activism for it in leftist circles (since they are the only ones allowed a platform to speak out), we can frame it as "corporations encroaching on individual rights" or something

>>49382864
>leftist circles
>individual rights

Leftist circles are the ones pushing this.

>>49382884
>Leftist circles are the ones pushing this.
i'm aware, but there's one card we have. leftists despise capitalism. if we can convince them this is a way for evil corporations or supervillain jeff bezos's method of creating a corporate obligopoly they might start speaking out against it.

imo as a collective we have to get better at understanding leftists and how to manipulate them

>>49382973
>leftists despise capitalism
Leftists despise whatever they are told to despise.

>>49382824
>>49382835
Using tinder or facebook

>>49382835
I dont fucking believe it

>>49382824
>uses aurora store on graphene os with no googleplayservices installed

ezpz retard

btw buy monero faggot

>>49382824
use apkpure faggot

u wot.
I just downloaded it, I've never given my ID to jewgle ever.

>>49382979
>Leftists despise whatever they are told to despise.
majority of leftists are influenced by marx in some degree. capitalism is the root of their hatred, and their support for interesctional things like gay rights stems from these things being framed as anti-capitalist things

>>49383041
Leftists are braindead retards and are too stupid to realise the cognitive dissonance between what they're told to believe and what they should actually believe.

>>49383041
>majority of leftists are influenced by marx in some degree.
They are also influenced by Klaus Schwab to some degree. It's a bit of a paradox.

>>49383010
How can you install Tinder without Play Store?

>>49383119
Go outside.

>>49383119
Happy Mod.

>>49382855
>You need an id to post on 4chan
what now nigger

>>49383119
google the terms in my post and stop beingso fucking stupid

>>49383113
>Leftists are braindead retards and are too stupid to realise the cognitive dissonance between what they're told to believe and what they should actually believe.
you're pretty out of touch with modern leftists (i'm specifically referring to the marxist ones, not the libs)
every pride month they lose it over corporations "pandering to lgbtq for profit" and make the same twitter threads. they are still socially left btw, they just differentiate corporate movements from their actual gay/tranny shit.

you're right that they are retards who believe whatever they are told to, which is why i'm advocating for us to go into their circles and do exactly that. it just needs to be told to them in the right way
a significant component of their support for things like trannyism comes from their belief that
1. gender roles and the "construct" of gender were invented and rooted in oppressive capitalist societies to keep the workers divided. terms like the patriarchy and ciswhite privilege come from this
2. transgender/gay/female employees are underpaid by capitalists so it is a class issue
yeah they also support it because of muhh "science" but those two reasons account for about 50% of their support
this is otherwise known as intersectionality theory btw

t: former marxist

>on no a slight obstacle to normie chads and stacies hooking up for sex
however will society cope

>>49382855
OHNONONO WHATAMMAGUNADO??%!

>>49383198
so your big brain idea is to go over and attempt to reason with people who have largely abandoned logic. under the presumption that they will maintain some level of consistency in their beliefs and see that what you're saying aligns with their stated ideologies. well good luck with that.

>>49383198
>reason with leftists

>>49382884
No they're not.
People don't seem to understand how this shit actually works, and you just blame leftists which is blaming the symptom rather than the actual disease. Leftists think what the corporate media and now social media tells them to think.
But these aren't really leftists. These are just lemmings who believe whatever whoever has power tells them.
This means the effective thing to do is go and sow dissent among the more ideological leftists and get them to turn on their own through wedge issues like corporate oligopolies and erosion of privacy where the die hard anti-capitalist and anti-government types will have to conflict with their own pro-corporate types.
Leftists nowadays arent pushing anything. The people who call themselves leftists are very flexible with what they actually think.

>>49383274
>and you just blame leftists which is blaming the symptom rather than the actual disease.

>>49383274
>the lumpenproles aren't the real left
then the real left is a very small percentage with little power or influence except when they align with the lumpenprole on issues the system wants. but sure, i've been to leftypol some of those guys can be reasoned with to a degree, though i got banned for patiently explaining the failures of communism. i did pick up that cool word "lumpenprole"

>>49383198
fren u haev to play on there emotions in subtle but powerful ways it's you're only way 2 get 2 the retard normalcucks consciousness and conscience u need 2 shock n hurt psychologically speaking those minddead faggots get that spark goin, no physical violence tho thats what women and jews want men 2 do 2 kill each other ur better thn that

>>49383274
>>49382884

>This means the effective thing to do is go and sow dissent among the more ideological leftists and get them to turn on their own through wedge issues like corporate oligopolies and erosion of privacy where the die hard anti-capitalist and anti-government types will have to conflict with their own pro-corporate types.

yeah this perfecrtly summarizes what i was trying to say.
the hardline marxist ideological leftists are kind of like the "thought leaders" of the lower npc leftists. they usually have much more influence and create the content and types of thought that gets filtered down to the lower ones.
i've observed internal conflicts happen between these two factions and the marxist ones always prevail because they're much more effective at getting their point across and socially shaming the ones that aren't on board
an example could be how before 2020, the npc leftists used to idolize elon musk because he was "solving climate change" but then the ideological leftists (being against billionaires for obvious reasons) shamed them into hating him through various means like calling his supporters nerds, calling him an apartied owner of an emerald miner etc

the point is we need to have an understanding of our enemy in order to convince them to allign with our interests

>>49382824
Then don’t use it retard

>>49382835
Fucking liar.

>>49383396
>the point is we need to have an understanding of our enemy in order to convince them to allign with our interests

I understand leftists, I still don't want to reason with them. Their way of thinking is a blight on the gene pool.

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>>49383396
Please fuck off back to /pol/ or reddit or wherever it is you boring retards congregate.

>>49383430
Reddit is that way

>>49382824
delete tinder
it's a waste of time

>>49383396
i don't think your hierarchy is correct, the lumpenprole only align with the "thought leaders" on state and corporate media sanctioned issues like trans nonsense and child drag queens and rioting over the latest black guy. if the thought leaders say something and it's not backed up by the corporate media or promoted by social media algorithms and mainstream political authorities then the lumpenprole don't listen and a "thought leader" that does tow the establishment line is the one that ends up with listeners. so in reality the oligarchs as the left calls them are in fact in total control and influence over the majority left.

>>49382824
you have no idea how bad the digital-ID shenanigans will get in the next 7 years or so. best is to stop using digital identities at all.

>>49383471
Until leftists can name the real problem they get helicopter rides.

>>49383239
>so your big brain idea is to go over and attempt to reason with people who have largely abandoned logic. under the presumption that they will maintain some level of consistency in their beliefs and see that what you're saying aligns with their stated ideologies. well good luck with that.
doesn't have to be logical
play on their feelings, use emotive language, incite anger by playing on their enemies

think of the things you'd pull if you're trying to convince someone on /pol/ but reverse it.

replace jews with billionaires
replace george soros with jeff bezos or elon musk
replace trannies with transphobes
replace blacks with cishet privileged whites

for example "if corporations created a digital identity for us, can you imagine how easy that would make it for homophobes to out gay people living in oppressive environments???"
or
"billionaires will use this to target unions and activists in the future!!"

it would honestly be 10x more effective if we created coordinated shilling groups that target them

>>49383488
>replace jews with billionaires

Get out.

>>49383482
the real left also hates international bankers and global megacorporations. they just don't say "its the jews" but otherwise some similarities there when you separate out the lumpenproles the right and left have a lot in common.

>>49382864
corporations are woke now, so leftists are pro corporation now. the ideal sheep.

>>49383488
>>49383502
Pic

>>49383505
Well until they start naming them, they get the same treatment.

>>49383488
the ones dumb enough to be shilled this way in the first place are the lumpenprole who lack any logical consistency and will only ever back the official state and corporate sanctioned hivemind opinions regardless of whatever reasoning.

thread got derailed by some retarded polniggers and their stupid kike infographics

just lol at these losers

>>49383514
you're supposed to blame the jews, that's why they make sure you see them. and then when you do blame the jews it's too broad and vague a target to take any actionable stance that isn't laughed out of the room or despised as the genocidal madness it is. and if you ever do something about "the jews" it doesn't effect the people in power they have plenty of disposable puppets on standby. oversimplify it to "its the jews" and you might as well be working for them.

>>49383558
>if you blame the Jews you might as well be working for the Jews

>>49383574
yes, unironically

>>49383596
Post hat

>>49383535
Economic and political / social issues are inseparable you mongoloid.

>>49383609
you kinda glow a little, to be honest

>>49382824
When will you faggots realize that The Lobster is a documentary about the future of dating.

>>49383621
Politics are just an abstraction layer of economics.

>>49383637
>if you mention the real problem you glow

>>49383654
if you oversimplify the problem and combine it with the most cringe infographics and talk like an edgy extremist retard who can't be reasoned with then yes, you're either glowing or literally retarded.

>>49382824
Telegram surrendered user data to German officials, against what telegram claimed they would do. The world is fucked.

>>49383673
No, you're over complicating the problem. Leftism arises from Judaism. Central banking is an expression of Jewish control over a nation. Every issue we have today arises from somebody with a Jewish last name.

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>>49383471
i disagreee, it's the thought leaders who are the arm of the corporations in the first place
for many years lgbtq shit was seen as just some weird fringe movement nobody really thought of, "SJW" hate was normalized because every attempt at pushing this shit on the population felt like it was done by insane twitter feminists.
well atleast until the number of thought leader marxists took off around 2020 (this is also the time i went down that pipeline and was a commie for 1 1/2 years) the push was always artificial and nobody really cared about lgbtq issues beyond some fake virtue signalling. now people (especially teens) are passionately political about it and may even have pride flags in their room.
corporations and the media can't do woke shit without appearing incredibly out of touch. they need to give favourable reach to thought leaders through social media algorithms who are in touch.


the only exception i've seen is things like mass shootings because they are emotional enough to normies to get them to even betray some of the thought leading marxists (who generally agree with that one marx quote that says no attempt to disarm the working class can be allowed). but these thought leaders still have it infinitely better than 4channers posting in their insular containment boards where their ideas are sent to die.

>>49383310
source?

>>49383690
you're dumbing down the issue and radicalizing the discourse to undermine any level of social traction that might be possible. like a glowie would do

>>49383526
>the ones dumb enough to be shilled this way in the first place are the lumpenprole who lack any logical consistency and will only ever back the official state and corporate sanctioned hivemind opinions regardless of whatever reasoning.
well that was an example, read the room and use whatever tactics best appeal to the listener

if ur dealing with a hardline marxist, frame the issues within marxist ideology is what i'm trying to say

>>49382824
You need to show an ID to get your bug rations now.

>>49382824
Its over for tinder

Hahahaha

>>49383705
the lumpenproles still rely on their "trusted sources" global corporate media conglomerates and government sources to confirm and verify the thought leaders comments. if the thought leader steps outside of the lumpenproles corporate state sanctioned hivemind he's not a thought leader anymore because no one is listening. they are powerless except when they are doing what they're told.

>>49383750
>Its over for tinder
no it's not, it's over for the mfs who make fake accounts on there tho

>>49383717
Social traction? I'm putting it as simply as it can be put. One simply needs to look at Germany economically before and after Jews were removed from positions in finance, law and politics. Leftists are controlled by people, and those people all have something in common.

>>49383771
yeah buddy, i know, i've heard it all before. they made sure all their puppets were jews so that would spot this and blame that. call it 4d chess if you like but its a basic and obvious play. "the jews" were socially engineered to play their part same as you.

>>49383756
>the lumpenproles still rely on their "trusted sources" global corporate media conglomerates and government sources to confirm and verify the thought leaders comments
not from what i've seen. you think lumpenproles care about truth when researching an issue? nah bruh they simply use sources to CONFIRM their preexisting beliefs. the way to appeal to lumpenproles is to use social arguments, repackage information in memes and
the example i mentioned earlier of them using an "emerald mine" to attack elon musk's character. none of that was true and the parts of it were severely misrepresented, but it doesn't matter because the thought leaders persisted with their slander and got their point across
you don't seem to understand how instrumental the thought leaders are in creating these state sanctioned consensuses

>>49383717
Also at what point am I being radical? I haven't even offered a solution, I simply pointed out the group who are factually and demonstrably behind the issues. Leftists were won over before, it was called occupy wall street. Only it was crushed after the (Jewish controlled) media started pushing identity politics. "Leftists" are simply NPCs / golems / whatever you want to call them. They will do whatever the group who controls the media tells them to do. We already tried converting the leftists. We don't have the media control to maintain it.

>>49383803
Typical "blame anyone except the problem". Now tell me the lizard Illuminati is behind it.

>>49383807
they don't care about truth, they care about consensus. and what they are told everyone else believes they will believe as well. the media will feed them what they are supposed to believe is majority opinion and the social media algorithms will confirm it.

>>49383834
And once we get them on our side, the media will change the consensus again.

>>49383831
i don't know who is behind it because i can only see what they want us to see, same as you

>>49383849
Sheep mindset.

>>49383855
you're the one being jerked around on a string here not me. you're trying to redirect all blame on 15 million random people because the few puppets you can see in power have jewish names. this is by design to redirect blame and to make any opposition sound dangerous and retarded.

>>49383889
And what are you doing? Advocating people focus on a group of people whose opinions are set by the people I'm talking about? You're saying we should piss in the wind. Leftists are the puppets of the media. The media is objectively controlled by Jews, it's not even a debate anymore, it's public knowledge. History is a battle for the minds of the NPCs. Media is the greatest mind control device ever created. Jewish people control the media. Do the math.

>>49383924
buddy, the people in media could be fucking somalians and i wouldn't blame all of somalia and demand a solution to the somalian problem. blame the power directly and not the socially engineered demographic their puppets spawned from.

>>49383924
>History is a battle for the minds of the NPCs
then maybe don't alienate them right off the bat by ranting some crazed conspiracy about literally every jew in the world being out to get them? maybe try not being a fucking retard?

>>49383981
>>49383996
>maybe don't tell the truth

We're trying to wake them up, not coddle them.

>>49382973
Aye.

>>49383999
yes the jews were socially engineered to be what they are, so they could be the puppets and take the blame. its so fucking obvious, it's been the main strategy now and its worked with over a hundred failed pogroms when the people attempted to topple the power structure only to go after the demographic the powers puppets spawned from. fool humanity once shame on you, fool us a hundred times and there is something seriously wrong with us that we're this easy to fuck with.

>>49384034
Ok let's assume you're right (you aren't). Who are controlling the poor innocent Jews and making everyone think they control everything? What is your solution to expose and deal with said people? Further, if you're a law enforcement official and you're trying to find out who the next person up the chain is, who do you interrogate?

>>49383834
>the media will feed them what they are supposed to believe is majority opinion and the social media algorithms will confirm it.
agree with this, but you don't understand that it's the thought leaders who are allowed to have their content ride the social media algorithms. who do you think creates the material on social media that reinforces the media, and writes supportive things in the comment sections that actually reinforce them

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>>49384055
both of you have devolved this discussion into blaming it on X scapegoat, which has derailed the original productive discussion of infiltrating LEFTISTS.
if you believe the jews are behind this, that's fine. whoever is at the top doesn't matter, what we know is that leftists are higher up on the social heirachy than us so it would be more PRODUCTIVE to sway them to our side on certain issues than yell about said issues on a containment board.
we have to win smaller battles before we win larger battles. that means spreading our ideas outwards in some way.

>>49384055
if they were any good at their job, and they are, how the fuck would i know who they are? the entire premise here is that they put in place puppets of an obvious demographic to misdirect blame away from themselves directly. we have been set up to blame the jews because it works in the favour of those in power that we do so.

if i was tasked with finding who is next on the chain i would offer some kind of witness protection and amnesty to the top puppets for any verifiable clues as to the identity of the puppetmasters. but it wouldn't surprise me if they honestly had no idea either.

my solution? to recognize that they are there, call them out on their tactics, and try to move away from their systems of control (esg, central banking, political parties, etc).

your solution is genocide on an entire demographic of people because some of the top puppets have similar genetics and the rest are brainwashed normies supporting it all. that solution won't gain traction because its horrible and evil and embarrassing. thats why you've been socially engineered to come to this conclusion. and even if you succeeded in triggering yet another pogrom it wouldn't play out any better then the last 100 times it's been tried, thats by design.

>>49384138
no we have to screech about the jews endlessly so nobody can take us seriously

>>49384138
My reasoning is this: Any progress made in waking up leftists will be destroyed once the people controlling the media (whoever they may be for discussions sake) start the next campaign to sway their minds away from it. It happened textbook with occupy. I don't particularly care much for the "muh Jews" narrative, I find it tiresome because it's so obvious at this point that the only people left to argue about it with are Jews themselves.

You're suggesting pumping the water out of the boat, I'm suggesting patching the hole it's coming through before making the effort.

>>49384146
>I don't know who it is it's just not the Jews I swear

Weak. Where the fuck did I say genocide? That's how I know you're one of them, you're trying to paint recognising Jews as the problem with the same brush as genocide. Nobody except you said genocide you glowing retard.

>>49384166
Ah yes, instead we should focus on (invisible undefined enemy).

>>49384192
we need to focus on the systems themselves and not the easily replaced puppets or the genetic background they come from.

>where did i say genocide
thats where this going when you blame an entire race of people. thats the only solution isn't it. you know it, i know it, everyone knows it. and thats why nobody takes the "its the jews" people seriously, because that's where that leads, to mass murder of millions of people and a war that kills tens of millions more. you don't have to say the word genocide, we know thats what you want. it's edgy, and it's sick, and it's not even effective.

>>49384246
This post confirms Jewishness, nobody ever murdered millions of Jews and WWII was a purely economic war started by the political proxies of Jewish bankers in response to Hitler shaking Germany free of the debt based financial system, and nothing more. Jews factually started WWII for economic and financial reasons and that's what got millions of Europeans killed.

>>49384276
im not even talking about the holocaust which i'll admit was lied about and exaggerated to a great extent but thats not relevent.

so whats your solution to the jewish problem? ask them nicely to stop? round them up into camps? lets not act like genocide has never been tried when there are over a hundred historical examples of pogroms not including the holocaust.

this leads to genocide whether you admit it to yourself and others or not. thats why nobody wants anything to do with your bullshit

>>49384276
>hitler saved germany from the jews
>jews started ww2
hitler started ww2 by invading poland, dude hitler was the jews. it all went according to plan and nobody overthrew shit

>>49384192
>My reasoning is this: Any progress made in waking up leftists will be destroyed once the people controlling the media (whoever they may be for discussions sake) start the next campaign to sway their minds away from it. It happened textbook with occupy.
bro how are you still thinking of occupy, that shit happened 10 years ago when most of us were in elementary. the political sphere has changed radically since then

plus all the information about it is shrouded and propagandized (that infographic that paints SJW terms originating to destroy is complete propaganda btw)
marxist language like racism, sexism has existed since the 60's and the few examples they gave were just a further iteration of a series of intersectionality bs had nothing to do with OWS

your reasoning is wrong because the system has given marxists a significant share of the influence on social media since 2020 (this is why you have seen a very sudden anti-capitalist shift in behaviour and unions popping up everywhere). it's a gamble they've taken and it works when leftists go after "acceptable" targets like billionaires, racists, homophobes etc but an opportunity presents

>>49384146
This is the worst fucking point of all
"It's unknowable because the evil masterminds are so good at their job you'll never know"

Fuuuuuuuckkkkk offffffff
Don't trust your lying eyes, 2+2 IS equal to 5

>>49384356
its unknowable because we're random fucking peasants. how would we know? how? you'll see exactly what they want you to see. rather then chasing ghosts or being redirected to blame whoever they set up to take the blame, we should focus on the actual systems. but whenever someone focuses on the system some useful idiot barges into the discussion screaming about jews which totally derails any traction because nobody wants that genocidal cringe bullshit.

>>49384326
How does Israel determine right to citizenship? DNA tests. We have a simply technology now that none of the 109 countries they got thrown out of had access to. The solution is literally as simple as Israel but for white people. Jewish ancestry? Not allowed, just like how white people can't be citizens of Israel. Sort of bad example though because Israel actually genocides people anyway, so Israel for white people without the Palestinian genocide part.

>>49384346
I'm talking about it because I wasn't in elementary school and I remember it happening. Not all of us are zoomers who grew up with social media as the only narrative they know. There are basically no "real" Marxists left, "real" Marxism was proven wrong years ago for a number of different reasons, what we're dealing with now are cultural Marxists who believe that western culture is responsible for the failure of Marxism, and that for true Socialism to be achieved, western culture must be destroyed. They substituted the working class for a number of different groups in search of the one that will bring about the downfall of western culture. Both forms of Marxism are entirely Jewish productions and one cannot blame any form of Marxism without also blaming those who created and pushed it.

>>49384404
>just dna test the entire population and kick out the jews
ok and then what? now they're just somewhere else. ever heard of the internet? they can still influence us from anywhere in the world. and what about all the global organizations we going to kick them out of every country how does that work. none of it works, it's an unworkable plan, by design. you blame the jews, you reach for this as a solution, and nothing ever gets solved, and the systems of power themselves remain unchallenged. it's fucking stupid. not to mention evil you think trying to kick out every jew isn't going to end in a war you're bonkers

>not a single person downloading tinder to check if this post is true
Biz is retarded
Just now installed with a press of a button

>>49383430
fuck off back to cia.gov niggard

>>49384448
>ok and then what?

Problem solved?

>ever heard of the internet?

Yep, and it's part of the problem, pic related.

>and what about all the global organizations

Not a fan of globalism, fuck 'em.

>not to mention evil you think trying to kick out every jew isn't going to end in a war you're bonkers

Is a dog biting a tick off itself immoral? The laws of nature have no morals, either a species realizes it has a parasite and removes it, or the parasite wipes it out. There's nothing "evi" about either of those things. You're reasoning is basically the same as "if I don't give this robber what he wants, he'll beat me up!". He's already taking your shit, if your reason to not defend yourself is you're scared of having to put up a fight, you're a coward.

>>49384487
>there's nothing evil about rounding up millions of families at gunpoint and forcing them to relocate across the world knowing many people will die in the process
no, that's evil and you are sick

and it wouldn't work anyways. the systems that actually control our lives will remain intact just with new puppets. and any potential of actually overthrowing or replacing a corrupt system will be lost. your plan is designed to fail by the very people who you claim as your enemies. you are being led into a trap

>>49384531
>here we see the shill, clearly defeated and unable to produce a reply refuting any of the things posted, resorting to restating his previous argument with no further argumentation, in the form of an ad hominem attack
>he then quickly switches to stating the futility of such a plan, and finishes his display with a limp wristed attempt at blanket demoralization in the hopes he can affect some of the lower IQ members of the board, who would otherwise be swayed in their opinion by the clear defeat of the shill

>>49384531
Also they fucked up and can no longer use "muh evil / immoral" as an argument because almost every country on earth just spent the last two years forcing everyone in them to undergo degrading and invasive medical procedures up to and including enforced vaccinations just to go outside. It's already been done, so it clearly can be done, and without much revolt from the population I might add.

I think a better term to use is Zionist rather than "Jews". Jews gives more fuel for the Zionists to use the anti-Semitic story. We are talking about Zionists after all and many non-Jews are Zionists too.

>>49384565
ad hominem? i was stating a fact. you call it "a dog biting off a tick" and i was more direct calling it what it is: removing millions of families at gunpoint regardless of the inevitable war that would ensue. i'm not going to beat around the bush with some psychopathic analogy about parasites.

the plan is futile, because it doesn't replace the systems used to control us, it doesn't even remove all the puppets and the ones removed can be replaced. the puppets dont even have to be jewish not all of them are. the systems that control our lives would be intact. if anything those systems would be empowered because to carry out your plan would require a government with the power to forcibly depose millions of people.

at no point at any stage of your plan is the power structure itself actually threatened, this is by design, because your line of thinking is a trap.

you have been obliterated every attempt you've made to argue with me i have destroyed you. keep it up

>>49384611
Common mistake

am I banned?

>>49384404
>it happening. Not all of us are zoomers who grew up with social media as the only narrative they know. There are basically no "real" Marxists left, "real" Marxism was proven wrong years ago for a number of different reasons, what we're dealing with now are cultural Marxists who believe that western culture is responsible for the failure of Marxism, and that for true Socialism to be achieved, western culture must be destroyed

>There are no real marxists left
if you said that 3 years ago you would have been right, but
during the pandemic commie propaganda was spread all over social media

yeah they are more social but cultural marxism still derives from actual marxism and i would argue that most of the new commies care just as much about it as anti-capitalism

you seem kind of out of touch and oblivous to the changes that have taken place during the pandemic. bro i was literally part of the first wave of commies that got radicalized in 2020, to be fair i was 16/17 at the time and recovered from it once i found intelligent critiques of those ideas on places like 4chan but don't underestimate them

>>49384652
nope. huh what is this "looks like spam: filter on other threads I keep hitting...
MOOTY-KUN FIX THIS

>>49382824
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>>49382973
you seriously haven't heard the term surveillance capitalism?

>>49384578
what about the children, do you shoot them when they try to escape? shoot their parents right in front of them? millions of families rounded up across america and sent to the camps. how many will die on all sides of this? you don't care, because you're a psychopathic evil little shit. and it would solve nothing, you're not even attacking the systems of power that control us

>>49384636
>removing millions of families at gunpoint

You lot would know a thing or two about that, wouldn't you? How do you fight power structures like the global banking system without having your own nation and army free from outside influence? Your idea is reverse brainwashing the leftists into blaming billionaires, isn't it? That's literally a modern Russian revolution. The upper class convince the lower class to murder the middle class so the upper class can take all their shit and easily rule over the retards that are left. To threaten a power structure, you need another one, and it better be a pretty fucking good one, because I agree with you, any nation attempting to break free of debt based finance will face a full blown assault from the rest of the world, just like last time.

>>49384672
You tell me, you're the ones that have been doing it for the last few thousand years, not us.

>>49383456
What's the biz approved way of meeting harlots and women with little to no virtue?
Just go whoremongering?

>>49384672
Also you're arguing under false and assumed premises. I don't want to take over the ruins of the west or force anyone out of anywhere. My solution is moving to somewhere uninhabited and starting a new nation. No need to evict anyone at gunpoint because there wouldn't be anyone there. Your Jewish mind immediately goes to genocide and shooting people because that's what you do. I am peaceful and have no intention to be violent to anyone.

>>49384678
>i'll derail the argument by accusing him of saying a bunch of shit he never said and then implying that he's a leftist
nice try kid but this isn't my first internet debate

>to threaten the power structure you need another one
that's what the communists say and they're wrong too. fascism, communism, democracy, all of these are systems that fail by design. you're just putting a new skin on the old system and killing off some puppets, but its all the same. power corrupts and any person you put in power is going to go mad with that's life, that's how it works. and if the person you put in power is the kind of person willing to round up millions of families at gunpoint over some bullshit then he was already mad to begin with. and thats even assuming that whoever you make your fascist leader wasn't a puppet all along and he probably was. it will go according to plan but you've only been made to think its your plan

Just learn how to install a custom rom. I run android without google apps. I use "aurora store" to just copy shit from the play store but I don't even need a google account or ID or anything.

>>49384795
What are you even talking about? I don't have a "plan", unless you consider making enough money on crypto to buy a small home in a remote area and then never bother or be bothered by anyone until I die a "plan". I'm just having a hypothetical internet argument. I've already told you I wouldn't be removing anyone because I'd be the one removing myself. If someone got mega rich and bought an island then declared it a white ethnostate and said anyone is free to come and live there so long as they pass the DNA test, there wouldn't be enough space on that island for all the people who would voluntarily up and leave to go there. Zero violence would ever be needed.

Please explain what you propose be done about the issues discussed in the thread and how you believe it's superior to my suggestion of just leaving the west peacefully.

>>49384721
never doubt platypoge ser

>>49382835
My youtube account asked for id to verify age. Cant wait for my social credit score to be revealed.

>>49384833
>>49384721
well you could have explained that at the beginning instead of letting me go off on my little rant about how and why genocide is bad for two dozen posts. so we're agreed? genocide or forcible removal of an entire people from a country is bad? we agree on that then great, good luck with starting a new country or whatever i'm fine with that.

>>49383357
>then the real left is a very small percentage with little power or influence except when they align with the lumpenprole on issues the system wants
Yes, that's right. The left has been absolutely obliterated by wall street and idpol.
Don't try and talk them out of communism, just sic them onto useful targets and get them to attack globohomo types, who are far more dangerous and disgusting anyway.
>>49383471
Yeah I agree.

>>49384892
I'm glad we could come to an agreement. The issue though would be that white people are the vast majority of taxpayers in most western nations. The west would collapse though because I'd bet conservatively that at least 50% of white people would immediately move to said nation and stop paying taxes to people that hates them.

Holy shit the glowies are out in force today, trouble in your home life making you escape to work, officer?
The only answer is to opt out of the big tech systems, and when you’re forced to interact with the system, remind everyone that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself and no one from his black book has been prosecuted yet
That shit unironically has red pilled more normies than all your dank pol memes put together

>>49384888
a social credit score could one day become one of those systems of control we need to focus on. easier if we prevent it from coming in the first place then rolling it back after its already oppressed us. we need to focus on the systems of control rather then the puppets who get replaced anyways.

>>49384921
Based Ted poster, I bet everyone complaining about this actually has a google / apple account and several forms of social media. Using the systems at all contributes to the problem.

>>49383184
no more being a cave dwelling incel and finally become a true druid gigachad

>>49384915
you'd get 15% of people expressing interest and maybe 1% overall that actually uproot their lives to make the move. which alone is enough people for a small country. but it seems kind of a pipedream but hey overthrowing the systems of power in our existing countries is also a pipedream.

>>49383010
>>49383194
can isreal put pegasus on graphene?

>>49384980
Parallel systems are the answer. Literally just create a better society within theirs to show them how shit theirs is. Both overthrowing and creating new nations require extreme amounts of effort and external factors aligning etc, but parallel systems can be put up by one person and grow easily. They don't require conflict or uprooting.

>>49383274
>t.new liberal fascist

>>49385014
makes sense
knowing the systems used now and throughout history to control and oppress and implementing solutions designed best as possible to minimize those issues. we'd have to proceed with the knowledge that traps have been laid to misdirect our efforts or to push us into violent dead end paths already laid out, that personalities and leaders can always be corrupt and always corruptible and that trust is no longer an option.

>>49384962
Yeah, the problem with the current tech landscape is that it *must* lead to the current state due to its being centralized and funded by advertising, censorship and oppression of external dissent is baked into the internal logic of the system and no amount of screaming about it on a Tibetan architect fetish board will change that
Screaming about it IS useful to get the normies to notice, though
What’s really needed are decentralized systems for the limited things the Internet is useful for (which is the very free speech they’re trying to denigrate right now), and to put down the device and just fucking live life like our ancestors did for tens of thousands of years

>>49385103

>>49385103
if decentralized internet based solutions are the answer then we have to anticipate that area being a domain of many traps. the blockchains can be made open in name and marketing only while still being very much centrally influenced and obviously so only to the very technically inclined, perhaps that is already largely the case. or maybe another trap, they rugpull the entire system with some quantum computer bullshit or some zero day exploit or whatever.
maybe this is problem, reaction, solution and they are guiding us to a world run by computers and we're the ones asking for it as a solution to problems they caused.
or maybe the trap is thinking that its a trap.

>>49385118
Not sure what you’re trying to say, I’ve never once been on the left wing in my life
>>49385226
Agreed, which is why I mentioned that even if we move to truly decentralized systems, we also need to recognize that being terminally online is a big part of the problem
This requires restoring local communities to fill the social holes modern atomistic society has created, which is something the Leftists *love* to talk about abstractly until they actually start doing it and realize that nobody acts like Twitter

>>49382824

I got banned from 99% of dating apps like 5 years ago, so this has no effect on me. :]

>>49383889
Then is the entire jewish community being vocal about these players in bad faith or do they happily take up the role of human shield and dividers?
Ya I think they are guilty enough to be delt with. Being too stupid to give up a self damaging stance is enough to in arguable warrant scary solutions. Stupid people don't know when to quit and will destroy themselves/the world because they don't want to admit/see what they are doing.

>>49385410
Nothing, just posting Ted K talking about why leftists will always support shit like ID verification. It's a power thing.

>>49383981
So deporting all the Somalians to somalia wouldn't solve the media problems? See how you are? Is this what you call logic?

>>49383430
YwnbaW

>>49383996
It's not alienating to tell the truth. It's alienating to be beholden to 1.5% minority that don't produce any value in society, but have enough money to fake the image of value creation. How's Hollywood profits doin lately? Netflix? Facebook? YouTube? The mask is slipping and we see Jews putting Indians in power to attempt to deflect their motives.

>>49384034
We should kill/exile these socially engineered anti American economic soldiers....

>>49382824
Where is your evidence for this?
I just downloaded it and was fine.

>>49384246
If you keep killing puppets, they get more expensive. This hurts the Jew in the most intimate way possible because money is the only thing they love/value, they have proven it over and over again.

>>49384340
Why was Hitler forced to invade Poland?
Why was Russia forced to invade Ukraine?

Fuck. You.

>>49384448
It's still a better place to be than having them live next to you, inflation forces of everything, outlaw them and at least their replacements would be treasonous without race being an expensive time wasting argument...
You can limit information geographically or force flags to be attached to information. Do people trust Jewish flag/meme flag posters on /pol? Same exact shit

>>49383456
Not for everyone. I never got any matches myself but I have friends who fucked dozens of whores they met on tinder.

>>49385426
many such cases.
Not fun being excluded from the dating market

>>49383430
eat shit nigger, get the fuck off this website you dont belong here. And you will never be woman

>>49383239
>people who have largely abandoned logic
They same the exact same thing about conservatives

>>49384888
C-C-Checked

>>49382979
Exactly. Anon is saying we should manipulate them by telling them what to despise for our advantage. Please try to keep up.

>>49382824
Requiring ID to vote is racist. Tinder discriminates because they know jewesses have the highest rate of mixed race relationships with black men.

kek

>>49383442
>>49384478
>>49385501
>>49386032
>Gets called out
>Starts to seethe like the newfag /pol/tards they are

I was expecting discussion about tinder but instead there's the usual /pol/ schizo rant, they really need to be range banned on sight.

>>49382824
Kek, is this fucking serious?

>>49383198
I've had discussions or arguments with enough modern liberals and lefties to know that most will not change their mind. When you keep breaking down and honing in on why they think what they think, and likewise you do the same, repeatedly you discover the way they fundamentally view the world and humans is diametrically opposed to you. It's not worth the effort. Their stance is like cracked concrete—not fit for purpose and fixed only by a jackhammer and re-pour. Better to remove their influence from your life or move away from their influence and let nature's reality kill them off, as almost all of what they believe is antithetical to the natural order of things. Multicultural societies never survive, they always collapse. The strongest unit is the nuclear family and extended family. Ethnocentrism wins out over racial altruism.

>>49382864
>activism
You're like 8 years late buddy kek

>>49392857
Lol retard and wrong, good job
Also you're definitely one of those chuds who think
>you should obey your biology and settle down with a wife
But at the same time
>N-no no an exotic wife, s-stop, p-please ignore your biology
Usual kind of hypocrisy

>>49382824
Fuck tinder. Women can tell you to kill yourself and nothing happens, but if you put something somewhat rude in your bio you get instabanned.

>>49382864
Youtube also recently started with the gay ass "Are you sure you want to post this? Some users might find this offense." warnings like Twitter has. Everything is becoming super gay.

>>49382835
I don't think FB is in the position financially to be restricting users like that, but I wouldn't doubt it I suppose.

>>49383502
>>49383514
The Jews are rich because they deserve it. White people are rich because they stole it.

>>49382824
its ok the media told me stuff like this is only bad when china does it

>>49383362
lrn2english. you're probably a nigger.

>>49390515
called out for what exactly nigger? kill yourself

>>49383717
>calling out kikes is being a glownigger
yea fuck off with your distraction shit

>>49396028
Righty-ho, I assume you hold some leftist beliefs then since you've taken umbridge? Care to share one and defend it for show and tell? I won't hold my breath as all you've shown so far is strawmen and appeals to emotion. Many such cases with your kind.

>>49382824
tinder is ruining our society

>>49383041
Marx never gave a shit about race essentialism, or poor people though. He just thought workers should rule the country instead of people born into cushy nepotism. Anyone who wasn't a worker could starve for all he cared, and his proteges followed through on that.

>>49382855
Sure live on a farm. Grow your own food. Don't buy things. Don't use modern technology.

>>49383010
Yay he said the line!
>endless supply bot mined shitcoin

>>49382824
>tinder is now pajeet free
thanks downloading it right now
:)

>>49382864
>leftist circles (since they are the only ones allowed a platform to speak out
Right-wingers have far more clout on social media. Actual leftists are getting buried on the internet.

There is a way around this but it wont happen.

How to fix this state?

Have a rightwing religious group do a buyout of match group / tinder / bumble. Take it private. Shut it all down and keep the patents intact. If a new competitor comes then litigate or buyout.

Im not sure how the church isnt already doing this lol.

>>49382824
Side load the APK you faggot

>>49382824
>>49382835
>>49382855
>>49382864
>>49382884
>>49382973
>>49382979
>>49382996

OP is fake

Not true

>>49384404
>Israel but for white people.
Am I allowed in?
t.southern italian ancestors

>>49382979
>despise whatever they are told to despise

that's conservatards, they are literally bots to make the rich richer and themselves poorer. They await instructions from preacher and or tucker.

i have accumulated 40 matches but i am very incapable to profit of this. they dont write back or change location wtf is wrong. are there bots giving you matches for bait?

>heres your tradwife bro

business and finance?

>interesting thread about digital privacy devolved into schizoid ranting about the """bankers"""

>>49384146
Midwit intellect, folks. This is the startling contrast between 100 iq and 130 iq.
It's the jews you dumb nigger and you will never be more intelligent or 'based,' for suggesting otherwise. You're actually on par with the mentally handicapped who think it is lizard men secretly controlling us from the shadows.
Unfortunately the world is not as fantastical as that and the only horrid misbegotten wights on Earth are people some would identify as 'human.'
Jews do deserve death for the thousands of years of lies, contempt, bloodletting, and war they have wrought upon us all and for continuing to do so to this very day.

Please off yourself you disgusting cretin as it is obvious you see yourself as exempt and have no stake in these qualms with the Jews.

>>49385759
Only whores use dating apps.