/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49367078
Any thoughts on the best bulk silver to buy? Do you have a preference for minted coins or just plain old rounds? Any thoughts on the premiums?

>>49367078

>ribbit

>>49367140
>Ribbit ribbit

why do you guys keep buying metals? it doesn't seem like its going to make you rich and it doesn't really keep up with inflation from what I've read
very amazed by the patience you guys have but do you really think your metals will ever actually moon? what even is the 'moon scenario' here? 2x? seems like very little for a whole lot of waiting

>>49367279
If the central Banks want to play the waiting game, so can i.

>>49367279
Poorfag prepper larpers without the brains to make it in crypto

>>49367279
>why do you guys keep buying metals? it doesn't seem like its going to make you rich and it doesn't really keep up with inflation from what I've read
Think of stacking more like a better savings account over a period of 5+ years and less an investment

The really big brain thing to do is set amounts into your investment accounts, keep a cash reserve, then say you'll buy PMs with any additional savings; it gets you into a dragon hoarding mentality and you decrease frivolous spending

>>49367335
I know that CB's are buying and I kinda get why, gold universally desired and therefore easy to sell if you find yourself in a bad situation but they already have infinite amounts of 'money'. what I'm wondering is what the moon scenario is for regular small time stackers
>>49367436
that makes sense, but you are not expecting to get rich from gold?

Gm pmgladiators

>>49367279
>it doesn't really keep up with inflation from what I've read
Check again on the 3000years chart.

pmgbros, I'm wondering if it's worth getting a huge load of canned food (such as sardines), since inflation is going to be massive next year.
Essentially, use my monthly stacking budget for canned food?

I already have plenty of rice/flour/legumes.

>>49367803
>you are not expecting to get rich from gold?
Honestly anon if the day comes my gold makes me rich, the rest of the country is fucked beyond belief and nobody is safe

I stack gold for the reasons I mentioned, but also if the music stops, I want my family to have a chair at the table and not be on the fucking street

>>49367078

>>49367803
They don't have infinite amounts of money because that is a scam and EVERY scam falls apart eventually. Hard to say when. But when the fiat money scam falls apart, people will be looking for something to replace it with. For several thousand years, gold and silver have been the money of choice on this planet. It was only during the post WWII monetary scam that they were demonetized. When the scam breaks (not if, but when) there is a good chance that the world will revert to its ancient tradition and remonetize metals.

>>49367279
if i go 50/50 in precious metal, and degenerate cfd gambling money, at least i keep half my money

Is there any scenario where silver moons without SHTF? Hell, is there any scenario where we're not headed for SHTF in the next 6 months? Food shortages on the way, a few rate hikes away from a market crash followed by hyperinflation, energy prices skyrocketing... I just don't see any way out of this shit.

>>49367988
You shouldn't worry so much anon

Arm yourself, keep enough food for a month at min rations, enough cash to get you through at least a week if not a few months, DCA the rest into a mix of stocks, Bitcoin, put 5-10% into PMs and then live your life and stop worrying

>>49367876
I get a case of random canned food every visit to the grocery store now

>>49367988
Dont thinks so, all the markets are fake but they are planning to crash them and are buying metals themselves, just keep stacking, thats all i'll say.

Previous metals are savings/capital. I save in metals in-part because it’s money my family can’t spend on useless plastic crap until I say so and transfer it into fiat shekels for them.

>>49367279
>why do you guys keep buying metals?
It's different for everyone, so here are my reasons:
Curiosity. I have a variety of metals, just so I know what they look and feel like.
Preservation of wealth. PMs in particular are a commodity that pretty well retain their value. I don't think of them as an investment, more like a safety. Because of that...
...Art. This means typically Ag, Au, and Pt. I find hundreds of designs really pretty, and I've ended up collecting enough to qualify easily as a 'stacker'. But this is also art that carries a value independent of its subjective attraction as opposed to say, oil paintings or statues. I enjoy just photographing the stuff, too.
- Passing it on. When it's my time to go, I'll be able to transfer my wealth to heirs without anyone knowing. This means AU, because Ag in any significant amount is too massive to transport surreptitiously.

>>49367078
morning!
Is the anon from this post around >>49364540 who had that vial of course placer gold around? 2 grams is pretty stellar for just panning!

What does a 15k diamond say bros, is it a status of wealth, does it show how much a man loves his woman, or is it just a waste of money?

Some dude said to me diamonds in the old days were sold so a woman could survive and fund her and her childrens life for a period of time after a father dies. What do you think about diamonds?

>>49368503
"old days" buying a diamond ring for your wife was just a huge psyop by JEWelery companies

>>49367436
>>49367902
>>49368084
>metals aren't an investment posting
cringe

>>49368503
not only is it a waste of money, it's one of the most manipulated, scammy industries, controlled entirely by (((them))).
Diamonds are abundant, they are purposefully burned and destroyed, and I'm not sure you care whether or not african kids die in diamon mines

I currently have 1 oz of gold and 100 oz of silver.
I have $5k to spend in xmr gains. Where would you recommend I diversify that. Kind of thinking another oz of gold and the rest in silver. Thoughts?

>>49367803
what are YOU expecting to get rich from? let me guess, bitcoin?
enough is enough
it's time for things that are actually valuable to shine
this is the age of commodities
silver and gold WILL moon
only a matter of time

I like the little Totenkopf lapels, but I don't know what to pay for one and I don't know how to ensure if it is authentic or not.

Grabbed some brits and mercs during the $21 dip in May and offered it to my queen

>>49367279
I really enjoy gold, how it looks and feels to the touch. It's kind of a fail-safe investment to me - if it goes down I'm glad because I can buy more, if it goes up it's nice because I'm technically richer

I haven't been here for like a year. Whatever happened to the bayhorse and other junior miner shills?

>>49369170
everything shat the bed pretty much, something happened in around may 2021 with the market

>>49367279
1. It's nice to buy something you can hold
2. It feels like real money, because it is real money
3. It's easy to inherit to my kids
4. I can make jewelry out of it
5. Contrary to popular belief It's hardly a hedge against inflation. It is however a hedge against hyperinflation (which we are on the brink of)

Where my gold leaf chads at?

>>49368503
Diamonds are a fucking scam. There are tons of nicer, more beautiful, more expensive stones that are actually unique. Diamonds are a psyop for poor/middle class retards to buy stones that are abundant by convincing them that these stones are somehow valuable or rare. Emerald, ruby, sapphire can all be far more beautiful.

>>49369291
devils advocate, diamonds are plentiful and not unique at all, innsmaller carats. above one carat diamonds that are gem grade are actually rare

>>49368618
>I have $5k to spend in xmr gains.

I thought you crypto lads were having the gates all closed on you on transferring that back into fiat? or do you know a metals dealer that accepts xmr?

>>49369291
I would only ever buy a diamond if I knew with 100% guarantee that it was a blood diamond.
Also are there any precious stones worth investing in?

>>49367279
>it doesn't seem like its going to make you rich
correct
>and it doesn't really keep up with inflation from what I've read
correct
>what even is the 'moon scenario' here?
They're hoping the world will collapse, that nearly everyone else but them and their families suffer and starve to death, and then their plan is to use their shiny rocks to buy mansions/castles and live like medieval kings while preying upon underage girls. Literally.

>>49369412
>They're hoping the world will collapse
wrong
strawman is strawman
go away

>>49368584
>>49368607
>>49369291
>>49369322
Luckily the diamond I have is inherited so I didn’t pay anything except to mount it on a new band, and it’s indeed over 1 carat (1.15) with a cut/color that is fantastic and colorless, as well as it’s clarity is VVS1 I believe so it’s worth about 15k. It’s vintage as hell too so it’s nice that it’s not some fake ass diamond that was made in a lab. But I totally agree it’s all a Jew scam. But what’s crazy is that nowadays sapphires and such actually go for similar prices if you’re buying under a carat pretty fucking gnarly.

I have some nice rings that I inherited.

>>49369438
>go away
Lol triggered boomer stop being a sensitive faggot

>>49369483
nobody is triggered
just tired of retardation and lies
go buy some dogecoin and leave metal chads alone

For the sake of the thread I’m gonna dump some rings cause why not

>>49369562
You're 100% triggered or you wouldn't be whining and telling me to go away, and looking back you haven't done anything in this thread except whine like a little bitch.

>>49367279
If you take the time to read some of the old boomer investing books, you will be able to appreciate the bizarre, and temporary situation we are in with rock bottom interest rates. The get rich scheme of crypto is a sailed ship, and the leverage in the economy has propped up all asset prices including stocks, bonds, real estate. If you remove cheap money, credit, mortgages and actually value things based on people's real purchasing power (as opposed to liquidity frothing around) you will find that our economy is extremely distorted and due for a catastrophic deflationary depression. And not only that, but the value of the dollar has been crippled beyond repair. The Fed's balance sheet is ruined, the zombie banks are all hostage to their over leveraged investments, and toxic worthless paper assets are sitting on balance sheets to the tune of dozens of TRILLIONS of dollars. The only hope left to survive this is to inflate the currency. And basic-bitch game theory 101 would suggest that the escape route must be hidden. If paper assets are cashed out and physical commodities are purchased then the whole economy collapses as no one wants to be holding worthless paper that will lose half its value in 6 months. Money commodities will ALWAYS be the last price to move because the banks can't play their games if it does. There are plenty of people who watch the paper metal markets and it is blatantly manipulated by major banking institutions. The play here, is to trust what you know. Trust history. Gold was revalued in the 1920 and dollars lost 69% of their purchasing power as a means to FORCE inflation because rejoining the gold standard after WW1 cause catastrophic deflation because it was undervalued. Read the pic attached 10 times until you understand it.

I always thought this was platinum as a kid but the you bros revealed it’s actually white gold, now my only platinum piece is my band that has two pearls and an emerald which I posted earlier, still love this piece

Why the fuck is junk silver so fucking expensive. I feel like a total fucking retard trying to complete guard boxes when this shit is comically expensive vs bullions rounds.

This and my next piece are my oldest rings I have confirmed to be 100+ years old.
This one was made by a Chicago jeweler in the 1910-20s I can’t remember the maker name but could find it if I looked it up again. Unfortunately the gem is loose so I’ll have to get that fixed.

>>49369698
i dont understand it either. i just want some kennedys is that so much to ask?

Simple as it looks this is a Victorian ring made in the late 1800s by some English jeweler, it’s a pretty simple piece but so far confirmed to be my oldest.

I’ve posted this quite a lot but always love to show and tell my 125g 18k gold bracelet, feels great holding this heavy chunk.

>>49369791
In terms of wearables I only got these that are silver and my wedding ring.

>>49369791
where best place to get 22k 16 inch gold chains

Mail call today.

>>49369791
I could find space for that and your nice antique rings in my silver drawstring bootybag

>>49369412
>live like medieval kings while preying upon underage girls
Yes

90% gold indian head coins left to me by my late grandfather
they look to be about $700/$350 each. very cool stuff.

>>49369698
You guys buy junk silver at spot price right?
Right?

>>49369698
>>49369744
called supply and demand
people want metal, and nobody is makin anymore junk coins.

>>49369698
What're you paying for it? My dealer sells bulk dollars for 30x fv and everything else for 19x. Expensive, but in line with prices elsewhere. The newest silver coins are almost 70 years old, most of it was melted down in the 80s and 90s, and a big chunk of what's left is not on the market. It's in people's hordes, and won't be sold. I'm close to my goal of $100fv, but I'll stop there. Picrel is the most beautiful coin the US ever made.

>>49370163
If I could find it I would. I stopped buying it because I lose out on entire ounces after the premium is factored in.

>>49370212
>not even the high relief version
For me, it's the Morgan Dollar.

>>49370212
true that
center is a beautiful condition 1921 high relief peace dollar
can't believe people used to pay for stuff with it
it's the realest money i've ever seen

>>49368503 this >>49369291
Diamonds are way more common than you are led to believe. The diamond market is kept artificially inflated. I don't remember where I've read this, but something like 75% of the mined diamonds are either burnt or smashed and used as an abrasive, while the rest of them actually get polished. And it's not even because those diamonds would be low quality, I'm talking strictly about jewelry quality diamonds. They're destroyed specifically to boost the price of the remaining ones.
While it's not advisable, if you want to go for gemstones, go for emeralds. They're actually rare and their price is far less inflated. Rubies/sapphires are kinda meh. Absolutely stunning, but they're more common, and the market is filled to the brim with very well done synthetics. They're more like the gateway drug to the gemstone world rather than gemstones that you'd want to own strictly for their rarity.

>>49370245
Morgans > Peace

>>49370212
Damn, My local coin ship has shit at 22-24xFV. It's retarded.

>>49370323
i respect your wrong opinion :^)

>>49370323
Agreed. The reverse side of Morgans is what does it for me. The Peace dollars just don't look right.

>>49370354
kek, Peace dollars are clean looking and the last decent dollar coin we had, but the almost gothic look of Morgans is what has me sold on em.

>>49370245
I was always wondering, why do people grade cheap coins that arent even in great shape?

>>49370264
What the hell kind of creature is that in the reflection right under "U.S. SILVER DOLLARS" ? Da fuq?

>>49370403
The photo isn't that great, in person eye appeal is really nice. They probably expected a higher grade than what they got.

>>49370331
That's gay. You can get 22x off Ebay with a CC.

>>49367182
ribbit

g'day anons

>>49367115
cheapest generic 1oz rounds. Usually buffalo rounds or mint labels

>>49369698
Because you're probably buying it online, or from reputable stores. So you're not only paying for the silver, you're also paying some sort of "premium" or whatever you want to call it (basically paying for the reputability of the store on top of the store's profit).
If you want to buy junk silver, train your eye and go to shadier, corner of the block kind of pawn shops. They got all sorts of shit that you can buy for cheap (it's stuff that came from who knows where, they'll want to get rid of it as fast as possible), and you can negotiate the price face to face.
2 Words of caution though.
-It's really easy to get scammed if you don't know what you're doing (if they didn't also sell fake shit, they wouldn't be selling it cheap. They're not trying to be reputable, they're trying to cycle stuff as fast as possible, and make as much money as possible from it). Make sure you're really good at identifying silver.
-When I say junk silver, I don't mean slightly tarnished coins. I mean bits of bracelets, bent cutlery, damaged jewelry, etc. Actual junk that happens to be made of silver. Ideally, that's what you would want to go for, since you're strictly paying for the raw material and not for its aspect. But if you want good looking silver, this method is not for you.

>>49370508
What is in the vials?

>>49370508
Are those kilo or 100oz in the top left corner? They look like kilo but I'm too poor to have ever owned any

>>49370508
Afternoon Sir! I got your rootbeer recipe! Thank you for finding it!
I got an update from the brewer supply group whose jug broke. They are sending me like 500$ in equipment and gear as well as $100 in cider kits. I didn't expect them to be so cool about it.

>>>/pol/380952007

>>49370470
Is Ebay trust worthy? Any dealer recommendations?

>>49370163
Nah, i recently bought some 2RM's for 5€ each which sums up to 30,something €/ozt. Considering bullion coins go for 26,something € right now i find the premium acceptable for the meme windmills.

>>49370155
Nice

>>49370212
That isn't the US gold Incuse Indian Head tho

>>49367279
I don't want to be rich. Truly.

I buy metals because I want an easily portable store of value that is real enough to survive hyperinflation and the death of the dollar. Something I can hide on my person in case I had to leave everything at a moment's notice. It's the same reason I have invested in tools and guns that can fire home made hard-cast bullets from black powder charges or factory modern bullets. The future is gonna be hard. And if it isn't I'll be happy to be wrong.

The only NFT platform I'm buying right now is Streeth. Because:

>Street Art NFTs by world recognized street artists.
>Huge Collaborations such as: Orcas VC, Shoeuzi, Kryptomon
>Doxxed KYC Team
>Audit by CoinScope

>>49367279
>it doesn't really keep up with inflation from what I've read
ok

>>49367279
I like the way they look and don't care about the price much. :)
C:\Users\Jim\Pictures\My-Silver-Collection2.jpg

>>49371058
and I hate niggers and Israel to be quite frank with you

Anyone got any info on stuff like this? What it might be worth bidding on? Or any of that stuffs that seller has?
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/225011197675?hash=item3463b666eb:g:UJUAAOSwsoZhktYu

>>49371058
based computer illiterate boomer

Got some mail today. A few dollars of war nickels and some older U.S. coins.

>>49370405
It's D.Va
Fuck /v/ for teaching me that.

just got this beautiful lady today

>>49371320
>that crown
>those stars
>the tasteful thickness of it
gib coin

>>49370543
you mean the WHITE POWDER?

>>49371320

back

is there any point in buying sovs if youre just looking to invest? like do they resell well or is it just purely for aesthetic/collectionist purposes?
>>49371320 looks fucking nice though

>>49370547
the far left in the bags are all 500g tellurium and the bar beneath is 1kg tellurium.
the shiny 9995s are 500g Indium each (though top bar is ~350g)

>>49370558
I'm glad I found it too
sorry I was afk last thread saw a lot of (you)s but didn't bother replying
good to hear m8! seems like a real nice company

>>49371264
New oldest U.S. coin I own, an 1822 large cent.

>>49371435
of course
sovs are extremely popular and liquid

>>49371412

>>49371264
nice 5c and trimes

>>49371435
I picked them because they look pretty, AU grade, and I wanted something that can be fondled -- .900 it is. For investing purposes go with whatever is closest to spot, or take a chance on something you predict will appreciate. That's typically more often seen in runs of silver rounds though: werewolf, aliens, boobas, beasts, etc. Coins with a face value are better for passing through checkpoints, as is jewelry but that has a huge markup.

>>49371459
My oldest is an 1864 indian head penny. I found it in some change. Absolutely mind blowing to think that it had been passed around for over 150 years before landing in my pocket.

>>49371469
>>49371568
ty kind anons
ive had my eye on some beautiful .900 XIX spanish coins, but i sort of feared it being a stupid investment
ill remember to post them when they arrive

>>49370155
>$350
Fuuuug I wish they were that cheap. I think in that shape it could fetch 430 bucks.
>>49370405
Keked

>>49371454
>sorry I was afk last thread saw a lot of (you)s but didn't bother replying
No worries at all fren! I had to bounce to go to work myself!
You know more than me i feel when it comes to things outside of PM's is something like
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/225011197675?hash=item3463b666eb:g:UJUAAOSwsoZhktYu&autorefresh=true
worth looking into or buying? Or any of that sellers stuff?

>>49371320
Very nice. I love it.
Picrel is my only gold lady atm.

>>49370163
I get a lot of Eurofag junk at or below spot, but US junk is a typically more expensive.

>>49371765
Mercury is a male God

>>49370245
>Buying the American knock off of a French Coin
Couldn't be me.

>>49371863
Fun fact, the figure depicted on a 'mercury' dime is actually Lady Liberty wearing a winged helmet.
Now you know.

two more weeks to break the comex!

>>49371714
eh I wouldn't really touch jewelry unless that was like something you know a lot about (to the level of being a jeweler)

>>49371917
lmao, a troon coin, peak Americana

>>49371863
Its lady liberty with a winged cap...

>>49368503
It shows that you're a retard that fell for the Jewish psyop.
Diamonds have no value. a first grader with coal and a hydraulic press can recreate them.

>>49371863
its not actually hermes newfag

>>49371941
well it shouldn't be
>>49371944
sovlless, fucking should be

>>49371935
Ah, you're one of those.
Maybe the SETF thread on /pol/ is more your speed.
I see a newfag over there doesn't know about the onions filter.
You should fit right in.

>>49371965
fuck yourself cunt, i've been posting here for years, sorry if I didn't know american's used a tranny for their mercury dime, i'll be sure to make a note for future reference

>>49371922
Checked, I might try and swoop one and take it to my buddies shop and see what he says. At those prices as long as I don't spend over 15 bucks could be a interesting learning experience

silvergoldbull is now out of their half ounce coral sea coins. inventory is really getting fucked hard everywhere

>>49372070
>scanada

>>49371990
Who even are you.

>>49372099
>Anonymous board
>Oh anon, whom art thou?
dumbass

>>49372099
that guy

Gold has been dry the last several weekends, even after hitting 40+ yard sales a day during the busy season. There's -some- sterling necklaces and smalls out there, but I'm not finding any small 10k-14k like I'm used to. Silver smalls are all well and good, but gold is where I make any sort of profit over gas money to fuel the picking hobby. Today's resellable jewelry lot of 10.75g sterling haul for $3.50 was offset by picking up a brand new eschenbach visolux($100-$150) for $2 and some video games that I flipped for a 20% profit to the local game store. I also snagged a stamping set for my homepour pewter ingots for $5. Was a fun day out meeting people too fellas. Local connections will be invaluable in any given shtf scenerio. Probably more valuable than silver and gold itself. Stay safe out there!

>>49371962
>Calls woman in a winged cap a faggot
>Wishes that a literal fag greek “god” was on the coin instead
Le ebin sovl

>>49371714
That chain looks so thin, and there's almost no material in that setting. You're looking at around $30-$65 melt I'd say. I don't know much about stones, only that they're difficult to flip.

update on indie and twitter here in a few. but to cover all the bases here, the mint is currently working on the dies to see if they need to completely remake them or if they can work with what's already there they will use the existing dies. the changes include the detailing on the clover, the definition on the hammer, the text on the shirt, the lines on the shirt collar, definition on the shirt.

there are a few other ones like the eyes and the moving of 2022 slightly up that the mint is going to get back with us for but we are working with them on ways to make the eyes better. no guarantee on that yet. obviously this means significant delays but id rather it take longer than deliver something that we could have done better. other than that how are anons enjoying their Saturday.

>>49372122
>>49372121
No pics of stack, rushes in sperging out about troons, trying to stir the pot. Kek, you have got to try harder little guy.

>>49372244
Checked, Thats about what I was thinking. I was trying to look up gemstones online but its almost impossible to find definitive results on true value. Only way to find out is buy one and take it in!

grugbros, why are we not seeing extreme cash4gold shilling yet?

>>49371320
Very nice. Here's mine. It's pretty beat up. Scooped it for $500 at an auction last Tuesday.

SETF deleted again.

>>49367078
Silver stackers: Should I buy coins, rounds or bars?
Gold stackers: Should I buy coins, rounds or bars?

Thanks. Also, what is this beautiful thing in picrel? Is it a round or a coin?

>>49372295
>No pics of stack,
I stack copper

>>49372344
it's a coin, it's issued by the perth mint and has a face value.

>>49372323
Yeap. I was op. Was a great thread too. An actual political topic on pol. Who would have ever conceived of such a notion.

>>49372344
>Is it a round or a coin?
It looks like a round coin to me lol

>Silver stackers: Should I buy coins, rounds or bars?
>Gold stackers: Should I buy coins, rounds or bars?
Depends on what your end goal is. If you are looking for straight weight go with whatever is closest to spot. Anything else do/buy whatever makes you happiest. As long as the metals are in private hands and not greedy bankers we are moving in the right direction.

>>49372344
That is a round, the Perth Mint in Australia makes them.
Coins are legal tender and have a face value in dollars or whatever the country of origin uses, euro, peso, etc.
Coins have an advantage of being exempt from taxes in a lot of areas. Bars have the advantage of lower premiums generally.
Rounds are a balance between the two and are good if you don't want to drop a lot of cash on them all at once, plus they can have some cool meme art.

>>49372428
nah lad, it's a coin, has face value, 1 Australian Dollar if I recall.

>>49372373
Do they? I thought for sure they were rounds, ah 1 AUD. interesting, I don't pay too much attention to Oz coins and nobody ever posts the lizard side.

>>49372344
For Silver, get whatever's cheaper or less taxed in your country.
For Gold, buy coins since bars are ugly and 90% of the people here will be buying 1 oz at a time.

>>49372460
aye

>>49372379
Did /pol/ warn you for posting there? Fucking lol.

>>49372495
/pol/ jannies only want you talking about trans issues

>>49372344
As with anything, the proper answer is: It depends.

Why do you stack?
How much time do you want to put into stacking?
How cheap can you stack what materials?
Do you worry about confiscation?
Do you care about resell-ability?
Do you care about trade-ability?
What country are you in?
Do you need to travel with your PMs?
Are you buying for immediate, short term, or long term plays?

All questions to ask yourself when buying. If you just want to be super basic, only buy sovereign gold coins minted by your own country from your local LCS.

>>49372495
I'll be banned soon I'm sure. It happens every time. Like the early life section, I already know without looking.

>>49372428
it's a coin that has face value of 2 australian dollaridoos. just checked mine

tell me one reason i shouldn't

>>49372824
Because you lack gold in your stack

>>49369291
>>49369322
big colorful diamonds are worth it, the smaller stones are extremely over priced. I ll never get over that "chocolate" diamond marketing for low quality stones to minorities. "match your color" what a joke.

>>49369747
whats the stone? looks like amethyst?

>>49372851
Got my first ounce yesterday

How common is this?

>>49372344
>Is it a round or a coin?
Thats actually my pic, its a chunky coin, its 2 ounces but is the same diameter as a 1 ounce so the thickness is doubled, think of it as 2 one ounce coins stuck together.

Then they gave it a high relief mirror finish and gilded it with 24k gold.

>>49372910
That's very nice!
How does it feel compared to silver?

>>49372920
very, if you buy from aliexpress

>>49372910
It looks awfully canadian.

>>49372865
my favorite , brown diamonds renamed to "champagne"

>>49372824
>Just $3.69 per Oz over spot
>Just

>>49373120

>>49372359
How come circulated copper isn't more oxydated?
Chimical Anons, explain.

>>49367279
>it doesn't seem like its going to make you rich
It's just a conversion of wealth you already have.
Nobody who stacks does it to get rich in fact they would advice against it if that is your goal.

>>49373165
Needs a catalyst to start the reaction. water full of ions does the trick nicely, which is why the Statue of Liberty is green but pennies almost never are.
Constant handling also helps prevent oxidation.

>>49367140
Can't wait to fondle mine

>>49372824
I normally recommend against generic mint-marked-only bars.
I have to admit that price is very good, especially for a Germania Mint, which typically garners a higher premium for I don't know why.
It's not a horrible choice. I can't argue against it.

>>49371879
Ooooh, I never noticed that walking liberty (?) was a replica of the french sower.

I'm currently trying to buy a hundred of those at spot price. Some say it's possible to get them 5% below spot but the best I managed so far is to buy 5 with 1.8% premium (yesterday). I'm fed up with the 20%+ premium on 999.9+ coin. I just want silver.

>>49372965
It's so easy to see why gold has been considered money across all cultures for thousands of years.

>>49373137
For a germania mint bar, it's a very good price

>>49373160
Honk Honk!
>>49373235
>Constant handling also helps prevent oxidation.
Gonna need to fondle my coins some more.

>>49372264
I'm glad you've chosen to take this approach.

>>49373346
It's just a bunch of overpriced Au atoms.
The atoms have no nationality, even the Reichsmark aren't really nazi.
That bar ain't a master piece.
That bar ain't a super special collectible.
It's just a bunch of atoms arranged to form a rectangular blob of silber.

You MUST renounce the high premium.
I compel you, Anon'.
You MUST maximize the number of atoms per $ you get.
You MUST fight the memes in your head telling you it's good because it's "Germania".
You're being tricked, someone is STEALING the atoms that should belong to You.

DO NOT PAY THE PREMIUM
DO NOT SUBMIT TO THE JEWS
THOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP THE LUSTER OF THE METAL
THOU SHALL NOT EMBRACE THE HYPE
THOU SHALL HONOR THE PATINA, THE TONING, THE TERNISHING
THOU SHALL RESPECT THE NAMELESS SILBER
FOR IT IS CHEAP AND GOOD.
FOR IT BEAR NO NAME AND IS UNTOUCHED BY THE JEWISH ENGRAVERS.
AND FOR LUSTER AND PREMIUM BRING MISERY MANKIND.

>>49372885
Yes indeed

Here’s a shitty picture of a nice band with tons of little sapphires

>>49373346
It's just a bunch of overpriced Ag atoms.
The atoms have no nationality, even the Reichsmark aren't really nazi.
That bar ain't a master piece.
That bar ain't a super special collectible.
It's just a bunch of atoms arranged to form a rectangular blob of silber.

You MUST renounce the high premium.
I compel you, Anon'.
You MUST maximize the number of atoms per $ you get.
You MUST fight the memes in your head telling you it's good because it's "Germania".
You're being tricked, someone is STEALING the atoms that should belong to You.

DO NOT PAY THE PREMIUM
DO NOT SUBMIT TO THE JEWS
THOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP THE LUSTER OF THE METAL
THOU SHALL NOT EMBRACE THE HYPE
THOU SHALL HONOR THE PATINA, THE TONING, THE TERNISHING
THOU SHALL RESPECT THE NAMELESS SILBER
FOR IT IS CHEAP AND GOOD.
FOR IT BEAR NO NAME AND IS UNTOUCHED BY THE JEWISH ENGRAVERS.
AND FOR LUSTER AND PREMIUM BRING MISERY TO MANKIND.

>>49373567
And a piece that is covered in diamonds various sizes, bad picture again which is why I didn’t post it earlier but whatever enjoy

is the premium on silver always this high?
fucking hell even on 10 oz bars its >20%/oz

>>49372295
>Troons
huh? Guess you are confusing me with someone else, which is pretty much my point in the first place:
How u gonna ask someone on an ANONYMOUS board his identity? kek
Here my stack, I'm a nickel chad.

>>49371459
Based big cent poster.

Behold, all my old coins

>>49372264
Ayy, good stuff. Thanks for taking our feedback

>>49373863
>>49373480
you know it bby, id rather atleast try to make everyone happy by doing the best we can.

>>49372264
That's great to hear! If the dies need a complete restrike is there any chance of adding the clover background from that anon's suggestion? A lot of us thought that looked cool. Changing the eyes will really improve it too. Any idea how long this may all delay the coins though?

>>49372824
I have one of these. It’s beautiful but smaller than you picture in your head. These are thick bars. I would buy it.

>>49373882
did you guys look at regency mint, they specialize in custom runs

>>49373882
>>49372264
If it comes down to needing a new die entirely, what are the chances of having the tiled clover background like that one mockup anon did?

Here was a fun project. I got a 5g Kinebar specifically to take it out of its package to photograph unencumbered by plastic. Haven't actually taken it out yet (yes, I'm cowardly), but here are three shots of it. Left is angled a bit so left edge is farther, middle is directly facing the camera, and right is angled with the right a bit farther.

>>49374296
if i remember correctly we shot them an email during the holocoin and they were backed up so we havent bothered them since
>>49373884
>>49374415
if it comes down to it then we could consider it but thats one of the ideas we are heavily against. the coin has enough clovers on it as is and i dont think we really gain too much by adding a field worth of clovers just to make it busier.

>>49374513
fail to see the need for such elaborate holographic material on such a small bar, especially when it detracts from the natural beauty of some 9999 gold

>>49373882
Good to hear, it's best to heed the autistic ramblings concerning such matters.
Most of the criticism was reasonable, some of it wasn't obvious to me at first glance, but what has been seen cannot be unseen.
Depending on the delay there might even arise a shipping duel with the AP.
Meanwhile i'm trying to print coin display stands with transparent PETG, but so far they turn out milky. Have to play around with the settings a bit more but i don't think it's possible to get them perfectly clear with a FDM printer.

>>49374561
>detracts from the natural beauty of some 9999 gold
Turn it over and then you don't have to whine.

>>49374653
>otherside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeZnkEMIxBM

>>49374653
Four 9s fine always gives me a boner.
3x9s are for fags.

>>49374734
Kek - This might cause you to make a mess.

>>49374779
How long until someone creates a coin with .999999 Gold?

>>49374779
Holy shit... I neeeeed 5x9s now.
>>49374819
The 9s stand for how often it has been refined - disolved in aqua regia, and taken out of solution. So theoretically you can do that unlimited times. But it's not economical. And doesn't make much sense really, unless it's for gold porn

>>49374855
>The 9s stand for how often it has been refined
No, they are parts per thousand. 999 gold is 99.9% pure. Those leaf madmen went to parts per ten thousand, 99.999% pure.

>>49374855
>I neeeeed 5x9s now.
Search for Canada's "Klondike" series. The second one is out now and you have a good chance of finding it.
Oh - apmex has them for 2028.

>>49374933
>99.999% pure.
at that point, and on anything smaller than a kilo bar, it's just autism.
4 nines is enough

They really deleted the stickers end the fed thread.

>>49374964
>>49374933
And SD Bullion for 2016.

>>49367078
>quit job
>mom kicked me out of the house
>don’t want to sell my stack

AHHHHHHH

>>49374933
Check how the 9s are given. The difference between 999 and 999.9 is the extra electrolytic refinement from 999.5
>>49374964
You definitely put some idea in my mind now sir.

>>49374999
>>49375000
Two trips in a row!

>>49375031
*995

just bought a truck for $3500 bucks, $2500 of it was in cash and the rest was 1 kilo of silver and a brand new in box stevens shotgun

For gold I have
-Apartheid era Krug
-Perth mint square button
-Sonic the Hedgehog Niue

What should be my 4th gold oz? Preferably something that won't premium-rape me and doesn't have the bitch queen's face

>>49374999
>>49375000
>>49375050
>same timestamp
good double tap

>>49368591
>>metals aren't an investment posting
>cringe
They aren't an investment, get assblasted doomer

>>49371424
Love pre 33, I might have a good deal on some Gauden double eagles soon

>>49375121
>What should be my 4th gold oz?
Could take the corona pill, or maybe a prairie nigger buffalo

>>49375206
simple as

>>49374964
holy shit i need this as my next pocket coin.

>>49375396
You showed me (us, really) the first one.
Better hurry -
I just ordered this one too.

>>49369791
is that white gold or just a bad camera lighting situation?

>>49375396
>Pocket coin
You're a braver man than I.

>>49371412
what is that

>>49372264
Nice. Cheers for taking the right course.

love these rounds

>>49372920
ebay gold like that is very common. this is why i always argue with you noobs that nobody will trust your bars in SHTF and the bigger bars you get the more illiquid it is because of the effort of testing to confirm its legit. the average person you want to trade with in SHTF is not going to have xrays and spectrometers or want to drill 500 holes to confirm the shit you are selling them is real

>>49375580
Cool, I thought the only bullion they made for ants were Pandas!

>>49375580

>>49367417
Pajeet seethe

hey /pmg/
finally got my first Fünf Mark coin in the Mail today, it's quite the chonker, size is about one ASE.
Speaking of ASEs, I bought one.
https://files.catbox.moe/ic74q2.mp4
Are they all misprinted like that? Why the fuck is the adverse printed opposite from the reverse?! Why are mutts like this?

>>49375659
forgot to attach the Fünf Mark

>>49373160
where can i buy that

>>49375589
>illiquid it is because of the effort of testing to confirm its legit. the average person you want to trade with in SHTF
You don't trade gold with the average person, you trade them to jewelers, refiners, or other (((merchants))) who WILL know the difference

>>49375580
>>49375601
What Rounds?

>>49375498
>>49375444
yea i didnt realize they were doing a series of klondike bullion! Pretty neat if you ask me.

>>49375787
asahi

>>49375659
Nice Funfie! What Kingdom is it from?
>Are they all misprinted like that? Why the fuck is the adverse printed opposite from the reverse?
American coins have always been minted like that. The designs flip vertically instead of Horizontally because traditionally Horizontal designs were only used on medals.
A lot of other countries used to use vertical orientation too (France, Switzerland, Canada, the Netherlands, etc.) but they all switched to Horizontal orientation over the 20th century, leaving just the US, South Korea and a couple small insignificant places in the Third World as the only ones using Vertical orientation. I don't know why everywhere switched to Medal Orientation, but the US didn't switch out of "tradition".

Someone said silver bullets will kill the lizard people. wagmi frens

>>49369725
nice one

>>49375934
that Fünf Mark is just Preussen, Wilhelm II.
the only other Drei Mark I have is Württemberg but that's also a chad on a coin
Fuck I love Kaiserreichs-Mark

>>49375597
>>49375787
is this pic any better

>>49376055
oh no it is far worse.

anyways, they are asahi freedom rounds. no idea if anyone is still selling them , i bought them like a year ago

>link is pumping again
silver bros we will see more cheapies. We all know what happens to markets and (chainlink) when link pumps.

they could have armed those drones with hellfire missles and taken care of the London problem.
instead they made primary school pictures in the sky.
dead country

>>49376055
>90x120

Now your just acting the bollocks

I am too scared to have silver shipped to my home, what if the retard nigger delivery man just leaves it out front or takes it to the wrong house?
>just make it require a signature!
the nigger who delivers my packages just ignores that and leaves it at my door anyways.

Which carrier does anonymint ship through?

>>49375984
>Fuck I love Kaiserreichs-Mark
All the best designs for German coins were made before 1920. You had dozens of minting authorities, High Purity coins, Good artists and a country which was confident in itself all coming together for a perfect storm of Reall well designed Numismatic coins.
Here's my Drei and Funf mark collection, strangely Bavaria and Wurttemberg seem to be the easiest for me to get my hands on. Of course the Defeat of Napoleon and Wurttemburg Wedding Anniversary 3 Marks I had to specifically seek out and pay a pretty hefty premium for, but they were certainly worth it.
The heavily worn coin in the upper left is an 1816 Prussian 1/6 Reichsthaler I got from a world coin lot.

sigh

>>49376305

>>49372264
Glad to hear it. I don't mind waiting longer if that's what it takes to make a good look coin. There's no need to rush these projects.

>>49367816
This. Metals are on sale right now.

>>49376279
holy based
I'm slowly building my stack with Mark since it's such good fucking money, it's weighty, the eagle is fucking based, it's just fun to collect
trying to get a hamburg round but it's hard, even living in fucking hamburg

>>49376255
usps

https://youtu.be/jRwUmGpmF38

>>49376255
USPS. For 15 years. Never once a problem.

Never forget what they did to Gaddafi bros... Gotta drop knowledge for the newfags https://thefreethoughtproject.com/9-years-ago-us-killed-gaddafi-gold/

>>49367078
can you buy reichmarks from anywhere other than oldsilver? if oldsilver anon is here is there potentially another way to buy from you? I can organise third party postage if you can ship to another country.

>>49375526
thorium oxide

Bitcoin is the unstoppable wave of the future. I'm taking advantage of the current dip to stockpile more BTC for long-term investment. I'm also investing more in Sysco!n. A fork of the bitcoin protocol, merge-mined with BTC to give users a secure, stable, and scalable network.

>aluminum all time high is 500+ dollars an ounce
>dropped to 71 cents per pound
>can be found for FREE
>ENTIRELY DECENTRALIZED
>using cryptobro logic, it WILL pump back up to astronomical heights
Why aren't you stacking aluminum anons?

>>49367078
beginner here

i bought 10 different 1oz silver coins from a serious online shop but only 3 coins feel like real silver.

how i can check i bought real silver and not a chinese copy ?

>>49376866
Yeah sure.. he was still an awful dictator that believed was a god

>>49377219
google the ping test or rare earth magnet test

got this in the mail what the fuck?
It's silver, it's also a stamp?
somehow bought it

>>49377288
ok

>>49374513
too bad when you take it out the holograph can fade pretty easily, since random particles get stuck in the grooves and block reflectivity

>>49377173
>>aluminum all time high is 500+ dollars an ounce

what year was that ?

>>49377662
probably after it was first discovered

>>49377662
>what year was that ?
The old days. Probably went down because we gave blacks legal rights and it was God punishing us.

>>49376866
>Never forget what they did to Gaddafi bros...
gonna dump some good articles i just thought about after remembering the Gaddafi shit. Crazy stuff you guy should really read this

Main Points
- LTCM (biggest hedge fund collapse ever at the time) was short 400 tons of gold that it borrowed from the Italian gov't. US bailed out the position, and made sure no one knew.
- Bear Sterns was categorically long gold, which is part of the reason the US gov't wanted to see it fail
http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-ltcm-revisited--a-forensic-account.aspx?contributor=Gold+Price+Management&article=1994197332G10020&redirect=False
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1205820180.php
https://safehaven.com/article/3132/the-anatomy-of-a-fictional-hedge-fund-collapse
>>49377264
you're a faggot for believing what the glowies tell you haha you prob believe the war in Iraq was justified too

>>49377736
Aluminum is 8% of the earth's crust. We know where to find it and how to refine it so it is much easier to extract.
However, in the future economy I expect all natrural resources to cost much more. The dollar-debt system had the global economy burning red hot and burning through all easily accessible deposits of materials to acquire dollars. Those days are coming to an end, where the U.S. and all nations will be running net-zero balance of trade once again.

>>49370508
Love the updated stack post anon!

>>49377173
I unironically am keeping all my cans at this point, but I've got space to spare.

>>49376539
>it's such good fucking money
Indeed, they were the last German coins issued to ever contain Silver Value roughly equal to their Face Value, every Silver coin minted for circulation in Germany after 1920 has had only a token amount of Silver Relative to its Face Value.
>the eagle is fucking based
The most Based Eagle is on the Defeat of Napoleon Commemorative.
>it's just fun to collect
I know anon, I'm thinking about collecting one of each type of Drei Mark. If I space my purchases out and buy really low end examples for rarer coins, I should be able to complete the full set in 3-5 years. The problem is that everything is just so hard to find at reasonable prices, even common stuff like Baden 3 Marks are seemingly impossible for me to find outside of overpriced BIN deals on Ebay.
>trying to get a hamburg round but it's hard, even living in fucking hamburg
Probably Collectors buying them up because it's one of the moderately rare ones and people want the Novelty of a coin from a city-state.

>>49367279
Precious metals are durable and aren’t likely to go down in value over time. My guns and my metals are things that I don’t feel like I wasted money on, and are things that I personally control with my own two hands. My faggot bank can’t take them from me.

>>49378627
>every Silver coin minted for circulation in Germany after 1920
German Empire was best Germany. Nazi Germany is overrated. Even Hitler would agree that it would’ve been better for Germany to defeat the Entente in ww1 then him winning ww2. Kaiserreich coins are cool looking. Weimar coins are weimar. And Third Reich coins are only collected because of their swastika (don’t believe this? Then why are 1933-1935 reichsmarks undervalued compared to 1935-1945 swastika coins?) and are artistically bland.

>>49373580
>>49373346
germania kilos at monument are one of the cheapest options out there right now

>>49377475
Is this from experience, or conjecture?

Getting 20oz of silver and 1/4 of Gold
Need help deciding new guardian
GFL, GuP, or Infinite Stratos?

Heres some shots of some random samples I took today, great looking stuff from a recent new logging road bed.

Quartz hosting a tiny piece of visible gold in an oxide pocket with some residual pyrite.

>>49379048
i dont know rocks but that looks like iron in the crystal

>>49379058
right in the center of that darker oxide, is a tiny little blob of free gold. This is how nuggets form, the rust / darker oxides were once pyrite, and any gold in them was exposed after the iron sulfides weather away.

>>49372865
>big colorful diamonds are worth it
Seriously? I had read a long time ago about some Russian meteor crater which holds tons of diamonds, arguing diamonds aren't rare. However now that I've gone searching for it, I found an article debunking that crater as non-economical low industrial grade diamonds.
>https://geology.com/articles/popigai-crater-diamonds/
However, there's also synthetic lab grown diamonds which I heard can be grown bigger and purer than natural diamonds. Supposedly diamond ring distributers are trying to push the marketing of "natural diamond has flaws which make them more valuable and unique". Sounds like a load of BS to me. Has anyone tried to resell diamond rings to see how much they can actually get back? I'm thinking it'd be a huge loss, as it can't be melted down like PM to be fungible. Cynical me thinks it's a scam to leech money from marriages like anything to do with weddings.
>https://geology.com/diamond/lab-grown-diamonds/
If we could synthetically make gold in the lab which would be more bigger (more economical) and purer than naturally occurring gold...wouldn't that make gold less valuable than more valuable?

>be me
>be canadian
>buy a coffee in drive thru
>get my change
>dump it in cig ashtray as my change tray
>had weird feeling
>park
>take a sip of my coffee
>start looking at the change
>find a 1967 silver quarter
>almost spit out coffee in disbelief
>its a centennial bobcat
>second ever silver quarter i ever found in circulation
>play with the quarter
>drop it on my dash for it to make that nice ringing sound

today was very nice

>>49379347
lab grown gems are getting to the point where their nearly impossible to ID against naturally formed ones.
A lot of the value that goes along with large colored natural stones is simply rarity. A large pink diamond (20 carats plus) would be worth a lot more than if it was simply a white stone.

As for lab grown gold, it wouldnt be any different than any other gold, other than the fact that it took a fuck load more energy to generate than conventional mining would use to mine the same amount. Gold can be made in a lab using reactors and particle accelerators but its not any different than gold from the ground, other than its usually extremely radioactive.

I ve heard of that crater of diamonds a few times, there are several similar places around the world i ll go find one in Alberta thats been looked over a few times in the last century.

>>49379048
is this the gold in the picture? ill have to start paying attention more to these quartz rocks i see these rusty quartz rocks all the time here in northern california

>>49378673
>My faggot bank can’t take them from me
just wait

>>49379493
Correct!
You really should keep an eye out! The motherlode formations look very similar to this, the veins i look at are a mix of epithermal and orogenic formation, you will have very very similar looking veins across California. This is what a fist sized chunk of this material produces after panning. Its very very fine gold but still present.

>>49379493
Beautiful hand specimen tho in any case

When Elizibeth II dies or steps down, does this mean they're going to put that old dude on coins moving forward? Or do they keep the lizardqueen still

>>49377662
Before an easy process was discovered to produce it from raw bauxite, I am guessing.

>>49379615
the ugly face of prince (soon to be king) charles

>>49379707
why couldn't a qt3.14 become queen this time. Think of the coins Britain!

>>49379747
They gonna put Meghan Markle on the coins. Happy?

>>49379347
Finished diamonds are extremely difficult to cut and take expertise to produce. You can’t even use a normal faceting machine. You have to use pure iron lap wheels which slowly remove molecular layer by molecular layer at high RPMs and special made hand pieces with precision indexing wheels. You have to be able to see the grain of the diamond. You need a little vacuum that sucks up the debris from the cutting so you don’t inhale it… suffice it to say that whether it be a natural diamond or lab made it will be expensive and diamonds do hold their value due to their difficult-to-manufacture nature.

>>49379457
>lab grown gems are getting to the point where their nearly impossible to ID against naturally formed ones.
Well, other than they are so unusually flawless and lack of impurities from what I understand. I think they're also marked by the manufacturer with a laser or something.
>A lot of the value that goes along with large colored natural stones is simply rarity.
Sounds like numismatic value rather than intrinsic value of the material then.
>As for lab grown gold, it wouldnt be any different than any other gold, other than the fact that it took a fuck load more energy to generate than conventional mining would use to mine the same amount.
I meant if it was analogous to the economics of natural and synthetic diamonds to show my reasoning of why I think natural diamond value should go down with synthetic grown diamonds being possible. Of course synthetic gold is not economically viable.
>other than its usually extremely radioactive
Synthetic gold is radioactive? I thought gold was very atomically stable which is why it's so chemically unreactive. Are the synthetic gold isotopes?

>>49367078
I'm going to buy a 5g gold bar or a sovereign when I get paid on Wednesday

>>49372264
i'm glad you're admitting that it's garbage and needs to be redone

>>49379815
Making gold synthetically and making synthetic diamonds are two entirely different things. With diamonds you’re forcing carbon into a uniform molecular structure whereas making gold from lead or what have you is forcing neutrons/electrons/protons into small numbers of atoms at a time.

>>49379815
some labs are now adding little inclusions in their stones because exactly right, they were too perfect. If you put one of these lab grown stones up against a naturally formed one you might not be able to tell a difference other than when their marked as such.
Also yes, when talking about precious stones its value is really how ever much a buyer will be willing to pay. Large diamonds for example often get bought by specific gem workshops to make one off special pieces. The material isnt whats valueble, its whats made from it.

As for lab made gold being radioactive, its my understanding that the process to make it does generate isotopic gold, and its usually in very minuscule amounts. I dont believe though there are any actual uses for this other than in experimentation.

>>49379924
Hey, PAN MAN, have you ever heard of Dr. Adolf Peretti at Gem Research Swisslab? He’s about the most expert gemologist I’ve ever heard of. He primarily works with rubies.

>>49379960
yes actually i have! I recently saw a vid discussing a ruby mine at Aappaluttoq Greenland. The stuff their finding on that project is mindblowing, they may be better than the pidgins blood rubies of Burma.

>>49379814
>diamonds do hold their value due to their difficult-to-manufacture nature.
So married women can sell their wedding rings and get back the initial investment cost back while marriage rates are going down (thereby lowering the demand, and increasing the supply), not to mention in lieu of having to work for mercury dimes soon? What is the market for diamond rings other than marriage? Do people buy diamonds rings as investment?

I mean I'm kind of asking jokingly, but seriously is there something I'm missing? I know there's diamond heist movies that act like diamonds are really valuable, but then there's bank heists movies where the robbers steal paper. Is that just social programming to make the viewers think diamonds are super valuable?

The only value I've seen is diamond rings is women showing them off to each other to brag. I once worked with a woman who used to work on the cruise lines with her then fiancée. They bought a huge diamond to mount in the Caribbean for super cheap. IIRC it was an $8k value diamond for really cheap. When she had the ring in the office, holy crap was it a magnet to all the women in the office to gather around and be envious, it was like they had to cover their eyes because it was so big and shiny. It was nuts.

But anyways, yeah we show off our pretty gold coins here, but gold has monetary value as well as some industrial uses. What do diamonds have other than for marriage & showing off for women?
>>49379870
>Making gold synthetically and making synthetic diamonds are two entirely different things.
I know, I said it was just an analogy to show why I think the value should drop instead of go up if it can be made synthetically.

>>49380163
Diamonds were extremely rare in Europe before the turn of the 18th and 19th centuries, the primary sources were in the far east, and stones were often difficult to work with due to the limited tech of the era. When diamonds were discovered in South Africa in 1867, they became far less rare.

The reason diamonds are associated with wealth now is due to Debeers in 1947, before that diamonds were no where near as popular, and not associated with marriage.

>>49380263
I don't think most people realise that diamond engagement rings and even wedding rings are a relatively new concept. Diamond have as much industrial use as gold, but industrial use doesn't dictate price, otherwise coal would be the exorbitantly expensive

>>49380163
There is a large amount of labour that goes in to certain diamonds, this is reflected in their price and would potentially be considered an investment depending on what metric you use to determine an investment, kind of like comparing a Rolex to a cheap Chinese wrist watch

>>49378335
thanks :3
forgot to show some of the covered coins in the box up top. mostly animal coins and sunshines

>>49380163
I don't think investing in diamonds is a good idea in a deleveraging event. Yes, they are good to have wealth outside of the banking system, but I imagine that just like any premium consumer/luxury good, people's ability to pay will be decreasing. Million dollar homes will take a far larger hit than a sensible single family home. And in that same fashion, we will all be materially poorer and there will not be boundless amounts of wealth to be splurging on luxury.
Don't forget, America runs a $700BN yearly trade deficit. Those goods are leveraged into countless businesses, jobs, real estate, taxes, etc. We are going to be seeing a major contraction when this happens, and luxury goods like diamonds will be like trying to sell a $1M house to a broke millennial.

>>49380496
What is a good bet during such an event then?

>>49380358
>Diamond have as much industrial use as gold
Yeah, but I think industrial grade diamonds is a much lower grade diamonds than jewelry grade diamonds. That's not the same with gold.

I'm thinking gemstones and PM are sort of opposites to each other, where gemstones are non-fungible numismatic value, and PM are fungible intrinsic value.
>kind of like comparing a Rolex to a cheap Chinese wrist watch
But isn't that still comparing apples to apples? Isn't that like comparing one of those sovereign 1oz Gold coins that is limited minting going for way more than the regular sovereigns prices, vs something like a Gold Buffalo round of equal purity? Wouldn't it be more like an apple to oranges comparison, like a Rolex compared to a Gold Buffalo coin?

>>49380513
Capital. Productive assets, necessary utilities and commodities. Gold is tier 1 banking capital and outside of the banking system.
We had lowering interest rates for 40 years which gave us all the illusion of unprecedented wealth. I believe for the first time in most of our lives, we will be seriously considering how we spend our money. We will be rethinking everything from the impulse buys, the fast food, coffee, the value of name brands, the need to signal to others that we "made it" by buying expensive vehicles. Everything will be far more practical.
And when it comes to diamonds, that luxury premium will be NO WHERE NEAR what it is pre-deleveraging.

>>49380496
>We are going to be seeing a major contraction when this happens, and luxury goods like diamonds will be like trying to sell a $1M house to a broke millennial.
This is why I think it might be a good time to sell crap I have sitting in my closet like decades old Magic the gathering cards. Sell them while everybody has excess dollars to waste from the dollar printing, then exchange worthless dollars for PM. I'm doubting people are so willing to buy Magic cards after everything collapses.

>>49377369
It's a replica of a stamp done in silver.
It's worth whatever silver's price is plus whatever someone is willing to pay to get that particular piece of art.
Pic related, for example.
I can't answer why. I collect stamps and I collect silver. I have no replicas of stamps in any metal and have no intention of ever buying one.

>>49380660
>pic related
... he says

>>49380564
I think gold and diamonds are pretty close to apples to apples. Both have industrial uses but are instead overwhelmingly used as jewellery, both of their markets are manipulated by institutions and both require drastic amounts of labour to be produced. I would compare the cheapness of lab grown diamonds to the cheapness of gold plated jewellery. I wouldn't invest in diamonds, but I wouldn't invest in the vast majority of other precious metals

>>49379554
>>49379554
are you grinding the rocks up to pan for that? or panning the gravel taht was around the rock in your picture?

>>49380735
i use a "dolly pot" tool to crush a chunk of a sample down. I generally use this as a simple test for gold rather than a way to actually mine. You just pulverize the sample down into dust than pan that to see whats in it. Its worked wonders before, one foot ball sized rock produced 19 grams of course gold for me several years back.

In this case i took samples representing all the different material appearing in the road bed, including material that appeared "blank" or without mineralization. It was quite interesting to see what was carrying free mill gold and what wasnt.

>>49380688
>Both have industrial uses but are instead overwhelmingly used as jewellery, both of their markets are manipulated by institutions and both require drastic amounts of labour to be produced.
That is true, gold is used in electronics on pins and connectors, and diamonds are used in saw blades and other tools. But is the gold plating on pin connectors pure gold, and not an alloy? The diamonds in saw blades from what I understand are low grade industrial diamonds, so I'm unsure if it would be the same as pure gold.
>I would compare the cheapness of lab grown diamonds to the cheapness of gold plated jewellery.
I would still contend that lab grown synthetic diamonds are exactly the same as top grade diamonds if not better, whereas gold plating is not the same as top grade natural/synthetic diamonds, it's more analogous to low grade industrial diamonds but you can't refine those to be purer/higher grade. I guess gold plating would be more analogous to diamond encrusting? Aren't diamond encrusting using small inexpensive low grade diamonds?

LOL, when I think of diamond encrusted, I think of that original iphone that was gold plated, diamond encrusted. I wonder if that thing still has a high numismatic value given it's encrusted, plated, and has obsolete tech.

>>49375096
Hell yeah. Putting silver into circulation is walking the walk.

>>49380688
>both require drastic amounts of labour to be produced.
Oh I forgot to mention, but doesn't diamonds being able to be made synthetically in a lab undercut the labor cost of production point? Or rather that point of gold being valuable because of the energy cost needed to obtain.

If you can synthetically make the thing that is high labor costs for cheap(er) (aka mass produce), the high labor cost of doing it the inefficient way doesn't really matter anymore, right? Like somebody could pay more for expensive handcrafted leather shoes, but does that really matter if everybody just buys more efficiently mass produced leather shoes? Like "handcrafted" which is more labor intensive seems to be a marketing gimmick of getting more money for something made inefficiently, if end quality is roughly the same.

>tfw finally landed a 50k+ job

Now I won’t have to sell my 50k worth of gold/jewelry

>>49381669
That's great man, I'm about to land one for 60+k myself. Looking forward to growing my stack every month.

>>49381693
We will all make it

>>49381669
Nice fren. I'm guessing that is well paid for your location? I landed a decent paying job too a few months ago. It is great. Save and invest your money instead of buying dumb shit

>>49382010
Yeah average here is 42k, and I have potential for 60k if I play my cards right, I have a side hustle that makes 10-20k a year depending on how hard I work. I never treat myself honestly I save all I can or invest. Determined to make it.

Thoughts on Metalla Royalty and Streaming Ltd. stock? (MTA) Now looking for commodities and stocks to expand my portfolio but can't bring myself to buy gayhorse stock.

>>49382040
Nice fren, nice. As much as it is a platitude, it honestly isn't about how much you earn, but how much you spend, my 26 year old brother has $100k in the bank despite not earning more than $45k/year in his life (working class poor family, no money inherited)

Sounds like you already have the spending part sorted and just needed to sort the income part out, which you now have (I'm guessing it wasn't low before, just average). We are all gonna make it. Don't let some pissy cunt be all sour grapes since you are experiencing some success, had a few people get sour instead of congratulate me when I told them I'm earning a decent, honest income

>>49382010
>>49382142
Very nice coins
Australian junk is good to see

>>49382271
>>49382142
This is aussie junk (kek)? Shit's looking good (no homo), french junk is incredibly weird in comparaison.

>>49382271
>>49382520
Yeah, .925 before ww2 and .5 afterwards. We also have these weird fucked up silver 50 cents coins after we moved to decimal currency