/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>49264078
First for copper

>>49264078
Rate my COVID stack.

>>49264101
coper

>>49264102
Needs more chest

>>49264140
Always. i don't hold huge silver volumes, since I've been stacking mainly gold and platinum during the lockdowns.
Let's see next lockdown what the premiums say.

If ya wanna earn like goddamn Buffet, you have to use Streeth.

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>>49264078
This thread needs more sovereigns

>>49264078

>>49264078
Need me some more

>>49264078
Last pic

Quick placer post!
Hopefully i can punch through this cemented channel material. I ll be happy with bedrock, but blue clay and pay dirt might be down there too!

>>49263980
>>49264316
Gotta ask, are you allowed to use explosives to try and get through that stuff? The fact that you're here tells me you probably know how to build that stuff without getting the feds on your ass, or is there specialized rock blasting equipment? OR is it entirely forbidden due to nature preservation?
pic unrelated

>save enough to finally buy a tube of noah's arks
>laptop suddently die the same day
>replacing it will cost me a tube worth of noah's ark
I just can't even...

>>49264410
you can get cheap laptops from pawn shops

>>49264078
Here u go

>>49264363
i can! but in this case i really dont know if they would work properly in this material. Tertiary Channel and similar material like desert calichi simply absorbs the blast and doesnt shatter, the best bet for this is simple manual labor until i get mad at it and mark it as a test hole for excavator work later this year. I ll put a ripper tool on the stick and just bust through as much as i can if I think its worth it. Tomorrow i ll try and get down another meter or so, 3m by hand is deep enough where it starts becoming a shaft and needs cribbing / supports.

I ll do the same on the opposite side of this hump i am digging in now in a week or two, when the snow in the shade has thawed out.

>>49264485
shitload of work for supposedly some worthless metal abundant in the crust of the earth eh?
Godspeed, always love to hear from anons out in the field from my stinky office job

>>49264513
Gold is the only thing i refuse to buy, I can get it from a bank of gravel, and i will get it from a bank of gravel!

>>49264543
I do have to say though, with the surge in gasoline and gas prices it might be a bargain to buy the stuff refined instead of doing it yourself. I know you're into nuggets and I don't blame you, but at least the work going into minting silver must be ridiculously overexpensive for the price (((they))) get out of it.

>>49264444
Checked, pretty pirate chest, where did you get it?

>>49264574
minting and silver smithing is an economy of scale sort of business model or tiny hand working fabrication style shops, there is a mark up of course but there is a mark up in pretty much everything in todays world, even on raw materials!

>>49264654
a markup is fine and fair if you put work into it. you invested your time and are free to pick from products other workers produced in the time you spent producing let's say your silver round.
some niggers in new york selling paper promising the buyer x silver rounds and by that manipulating spot price which the whole market agrees is the perfect base price however...
I wish to live in a fair, local market economy so much it's unreal.

>>49264410
I've just been in a similar boat to you anon. Instead of buying more PM I had to cough up over a grand for a new laptop because the thing is falling apart (makes a change from the internals failing). Still, now is the best time to get one before the money printer devalues fiat even more.

Obligatory US Constitutional Guide

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Gold: bit dot ly/327ob9T

>>49264078
oh dang I made OP. nice

>>49264444
checked. do yours tarnish in their? mine have. guess I have to keep it open

>>49264824
where did you get that kek statue? is it made of bronze?

>>49264878
>do yours tarnish in their? mine have. guess I have to keep it open

If you keep a layer between the wood and the silver coins it should not tarnish, like an anti-tarnish cloth posted in earlier thread

>>49264896
I think I got it from Amazon, I ordered it years ago along with the flag.

>>49264914
I have those strips there, though I didn't line the sides. i have noticed the strips retroactively remove a bit of tarnish too, which is nice to get that antiquated look

>>49264925
alright

>>49264925
lmao is this you, zoomie?

>>49264962
No.

>>49264962
Don't post anons names anon, pls delete

>>49264896
>is it made of bronze?
No, the frog feels like it's made of plastic, the base I'm not to sure. Feels like wood but really light wood. Would be great if it was bronze, but it's fine what it actually is and had a decent weight to it.

>>49265005
Where get coin? Thank sir!

>>49265053
https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/the-great-engravers/gothic-crown/gothic-crown-quartered-arms-2oz-silver-proof-coin/

>>49264410
What kind of laptop did you have?

>>49264078
hello OP

>>49264212
yes

>>49266098
cute birb

>>49266492
Not mine, but smart one too

Are any anon's familiar with Steve St. Angelo or SRSRoco report? His interviews are interesting, but I'm not sure what to make of his energy cliff idea; at face value it seems plausible, but I'm not sure how it holds up under scrutiny. Has anyone "deboooonked" this guy or perhaps run the numbers and come to the same conclusions?

>>49266574

Can you link to specific things we should read/hear?

>>49266574
p.s. his website looks like garbage scaminfo shit from the early 2000s

>>49266574
https://cryptohayes.medium.com/energy-cancelled-e9f9e53a50cd

maybe similar to this guy's ideas. He talks about gold in there as well dw, not just crypto.

anyone know where you can get scored silver rounds

>>49266890
https://youtu.be/yTJfeLoDJjc

This is probably the best interview, though it's slightly dated at this point.

Why the hell do I keep on hearing about asteroid mining? Even some normies I know are talking about it. Did some eceleb make a video about it recently? There's no way that people seriously think this tech will be viable within the decade. And how much gold or silver will the average space rock contain anyway? I thought those bastards were mostly made of iron and nickel, hardly worth the rocket fuel.

>>49268190
elon musk has spoken briefly on it before i believe. just ignore the normies.

He is correct.

Just look up the production of any of the Giant oil fields.

For example: Cantarell in Mexico peaked in 2003 /2004 where it was producing 2.1 million barrels of oil a day.

You know how many it produces today?

159,000 barrels of oil a day.

Peak oil is real. Only the ignorant like to quote it and think that we are completely running out of oil. The fact is we have produced and consumed the easy to get oil that is cheap. Now we are on the down side of peak where oil is going to get increasingly more difficult to extract and produce which will make it much more difficult to consume also.

This is a major issue that no one in economics or government wants to discuss with the population because the implication is that industrial civilization is coming to an end soon. Currently, the elites are also largely delusion in thinking that wind and solar is somehow going to power an industrial civilization.....instead you will end up with rolling blackouts and permanent loss of electricity in certain areas where there is no wind and little sunlight.

Steve is essentially correct in that we do face an energy cliff.

>>49264410
You can get a ThinkPad X230 for much cheaper and it won't die on you.

>>49268321
All done on purpose

>>49268190
>And how much gold or silver will the average space rock contain anyway?
a couple of grams per m3. which is pretty good as far as gold veins go I think, but nowhere near enough to make le space mining 100 wholesome musk worthwhile

>>49268190
I don't think there will be any serious asteroid mining this century. And when it does start, it's largely going to be for water-ice.

Not really. There is no one really in control except for fleeting control by the Central Banks that will come to an end also. That is what a lot of the "conspiracy theorists" don't realize.

The Giant Oil Fields are all played out and this is why there is such a rush into shale oils, tar sands, offshore oils, etc.

We haven't discovered a giant oil field in many years.

Much of the reserve numbers that are claimed and completely inflated and outright fabrications. This was even admitted by the former VP of Aramco who even stated many of the so-called reserves are not accessible or available for production.

Most don't realize that conventional oils peaked in 2005 and then we had the financial crisis from 07-09 where the central banks lowered rates to zero. This allowed for shale oils, tar sands, and other low quality oils to be brought online because they are uneconomical at higher interest rates and they do not make money. Something like 200 shale oil companies have gone bankrupt since then. Furthermore, oil from shale accounted for something like 73% of all oil production since the 08 financial crisis.

As things wind down for industrial civilization you will see a mass bankruptcy and that includes the central banks that will not function at the scale they previously functioned at.

There really is no-one in control of this process as it moves forward. You won't be able to stop the people from trying to consume as much oil as they possibly can because the entire food supply throughout the world is dependent on oil and its derivatives. Wtihout oil you can expect to lose at least 50% of the world population....some say 30-40% but I think it is likely higher than that.

If you want to see how dependent the population is on oil just chart the world population growth beside oil production growth and you will see a strong correlation.

>>49268321
>>49268569
So, our physical precious metals stacks will become even more valuable, a lot of energy is needed to mine them and to purify them.

>>49268569
What's wrong with shale? I thought it was abundant and relatively cheap? Mostly produces light sweet, but thats only a problem because of our old ass refineries are set up for heavy and high sulfur. I don't work in the industry so I just go off internet articles and videos. Genuinely curious.

I don't think so at all actually in the way that most of you think.

There is going to be a reverse of globalization at a point in the future.....so far there has been a slow grinding down since 2008 but things are really starting to move quickly now....

What will be valuable will be food, land, security, etc.

I see a complete breakdown of supply chains and everything that entails. You already see this with the moves China/Russia have made against the US.

Now how many of the unwashed out there have any idea about gold or silver?.....the unwashed have no clue.

The only people that will value it will be fellow like minded individuals who likely have their own stacks. You will also most likely be more concerned about finding something to eat.

Imagine a situation with major cities in the US not receiving any food from delivery trucks.....this is coming by the way.....now within 3 days those cities are going to erupt and empty out.....where do you think they are going to go?

This is how the end game of industrial civ. will play out......

You will have a lot more concerns than what your stack is worth IMO

>>49268190
people are legit retarded
they either think that a two-way mining spacecraft is economically feasible or that we're gonna risk meteor impact for some extra gold (which still is in no way worth it with current cost of space tech)

>>49268766
Yeah but we export food and can afford fertilizer. Maybe we'll eat less meat, but that may be a blessing in disguise for a lot of people. Supply chains breaking down will make it too expensive to buy a new iPhone every year but will hardly be apocalyptic. We can still use other countries in Latin America or Africa for cheap labor as well if China and Asia become untenable. There are big problems coming, but there are also plenty of solutions.

Shale is subject to red queen syndrome due to its decline/depletion rates.

You have to continually bring on new wells in order to make up for the large depletion rates of previous wells that are being produced. It creates a never ending effect of trying to replace wells that are depleting very quickly. In doing so, you are not really building production instead you are trying to maintain what you have. It is not as abundant as it is made out to be because of this effect.

Relatively cheap? Not at all.....shale only exists at zero or near zero interest rates and even then hardly any companies make a profit. There have been hundreds of shale companies that have been bankrupted.

Shale is a last gambit of a dying and depleting system. The technology for shales has been around for a long time.

You should ask yourself.....why wasn't shale brought online and used largely prior to 2005? Same thing for tar sands, offshore oils, etc. Most of these are known to be low quality sources that are difficult to extract from and ecologically damaging. Could it be because we have used up the easy to get stuff from the giant oil fields we relied on for a long time?
Do you know they have to water flood the fields in Saudi? Something like 7 million gallons of water a day just to get more oil out of there.
I wouldn't expect this system to hold up much longer.

Try to move anything without imports of oil and see how long things last.....

The US imports about 8.5 million barrels of oil a day.....

I don't think you understand.....

>>49269000
>>49268766
>>49268569
>>49268321
then why are you stacking PM's, you should just kill yourself now. gold and silver are worthless in a complete collapse.

There will be a stabilization after the collapse.....what that looks like or if it will be worth living in will be another thing entirely.

I think at a certain point things will spiral out of control until an order can be restored but I have no idea what that would appear to be.

So why not stack PM's?.....I am no fan of the FED.

They are shiny and awesome.

>>49264914
Oh sweet, so I can keep my silver in a box (lined with this stuff) and it won't tarnish?
That's cool, Thanks for the info, anon.

>>49268321
>>49268569
>>49268766
>>49269000
>>49269097
>>49269260

Based and St.Angelo-pilled. His flavor of doomerism resonates most with me, seems like he has a clear 30,000' view of things.

>>49264410
Get a ThinkPad a learn to use Linux

>>49268541
>I don't think there will be any serious asteroid mining this century. And when it does start, it's largely going to be for water-ice.
Both statements are largely true. We may see it before the end of the century, or at least some demonstration/test missions. But it will take years for the rock to get close to our orbit, and will almost never be brought down, manufacturing in space will use it.
Nothing to worry about from a PM hoarder POV

Yeah, he is alright. He is giving it a shot but yelling out into the wilderness.

There used to be a lot more energy skeptics and peak oilers but it was ruined with the doom porn peddles stating the world is going to collapse tomorrow....that doesn't really resonate with people and rightfully you will be made fun of and anyone with serious and thoughtful concerns just gives up.

It is rather funny a lot of the old timers have either passed on or just dropped off completely from the discussion. The old peak oil forums are largely vacated minus a few people and a couple nutters.

It is funny because you can clearly see the effects of peak oil playing out and the geopolitical games being played out by governments shows that peak oil is very real and they know. I don't think a lot of people remember of have even heard that the German Military did a peak oil study and its implications back in 2012 I think. Hardly anyone even knows about this and they even published it to where it was leaked publicly and I am not sure if that was intended or not but it shows that governments know about it.

>>49268569
We also started mixing ethanol into gasoline around that era. This allows us to get more "gasoline" out of a single barrel, and helps hide the fact that the sands, shales, etc have lower quality crude, denser, less of the highly volatile light oils.

Exactly, that is called "Desperate Measures"

You know what that looks like?

I'll quote BW Hill a Petroleum Engineer: Crude inventories will continue to expand as the petroleum industries requirement for energy continues to grow. As a result less energy will be delivered to the non energy producing sector of the economy.

You know what that looks like?

Chart the following:
US Ending stocks of crude oil and petroleum products vs. Weekly US ending stocks of finished motor gasoline

You will notice a very distinguished inverse relationship

This is because the refineries are continually receiving poor quality inputs (increasing impurities) as oil fields enter terminal depletion. Therefore, the volume of inputs have to increase in order to make a finished product. Due to this, the refineries are receiving more and selling less.

>>49269113
lol okay
literally the only physical money worth anything is worthless when people dont have a way to transact with eachother anymore because they are used to venmo or paypal
go home schlomo

>>49269546
This is an important thing to bring up with the younger generations. Not only is gas from the pump more expensive than ever, you are getting less actual gasoline than in the past thanks to ethanol which is a vastly inferior fuel. Imagine the cost of a gallon if we even went back to 5% ethanol.

>>49269782
>literally the only physical money worth anything is worthless when people dont have a way to transact with eachother anymore because they are used to venmo or paypal
no, if the oil trade stops PM's wont matter because it will be the end of modern civilization as we know it. you might be able to handle it but your neighbors will not. go watch or read the road. think a few oz of gold would help in that situation because that is what happens with no oil. im sorry but it would simply be the end of the world.

oh boy it's mail man time

>>49269949
I'd have to check my old history textbooks, but I think civilization existed long before the ICE.

>>49268321
based.

This is in my estimation why we're also going through these 2020 hysterics with WEF, The Fed, and the fags on Wall St/JPM.

They all know the oil is going to be harder to get. They all know the implications of this upon the petrodollar aka USD. They are getting what they can while greenbacks still have value, and shopping for an alternative while they still have time. Blockchain dollars are an experiment rn, and the female commie bug they wanted to install at Fed went over like a lead balloon. So maybe a silver dollar. Or more likely a new Bretton Woods system vs BRICS (who incidentally have just today rejected the proposed WHO Treaty).

It's gonna get real fucking dark lads. The lights are going out right before our eyes.

>>49269972
and you think civilization can survive the downgrade? youre stupid if you do.

>>49270028
Civilization has survived much worse than a loss of a luxury good, which is exactly what oil is when you boil it down. Sure millions (more probably billions) will starve, but civilization will go on like it always has. Humanity's progress has not been a linear increase, and in times when that line started to go down the tough managed to eke out an existence and recover. A loss of excess is not a civilization-ender.

>>49270028
>le mad max doomerism
you're going to make bad investments if you keep up this level of stupidity

>>49269989
>>49270028
Our current civilization won't, that's why they want the great reset, but a human civilization, or a few, will continue.

>>49270157
>loss of a luxury good,
oil is used for literally everything. gas, diesel, plasitc, fertilizer, tires, paint, EVERYTHING. its not a luxury good anymore.

>>49269532
I remember that website FromTheWilderness. Was about peak oil but the whole thing got nutty as fuck and then I forgot about it.

>>49270230
And humanity can survive without all of those things just fine. The only one that's arguably a necessity is fertilizer, which we can (and have for millennia) produce naturally. What we will lose is the ability to support EXCESS humanity. Africa is not meant to have a billion people, and the only reason it does is because of the excess provided to us by petrochemicals. We are burning through our excess to support the useless, and that will come to an end.

>>49270230
You can easily live without these.
All you need to do is to take care of your land.
Guess what niggers and shitskins cannot do.

Well yes....the people at the top must have some understanding of the situation. It is obvious that Putin and Xi know which is why Putin made his move and has threatened nuclear war.

The US needs all the oil it can get on the cheap to extend the petro-dollar system. Unfortunately, that system is dying and that is what is being exploited to bring it to an end by Putin/Xi.

Blockchain/Bitcoin is simply a tool to drain excess liquidity from the unwashed masses into a non-functional crypto-sphere that will be co-opted and already is really by major institutions.

The end game really is the end of industrial civilization and yes the lights are going to go out in many locations.

The media is already priming people for this by stating there will be black outs and food riots etc.

You could see this coming back in 2005 when conventional oils peaked....most people don't make the connection with low interest rates, shales, etc.

The repo crisis in 2019 was another financial crisis that the system had a convulsion and was near collapse. The banks didn't trust each others collateral and the FED had to step in and bail everyone out again....so what did they do?....They launched COVID-19 which was a total psychological operation.....there wasn't a pandemic and I don't even think there was a virus at all. That is how desperate things are. Plus, the system got to kill off a lot of people with dangerous medical treatments and vaccines. A lot of the vaccinated won't die immediately but they will incur large amounts of cancers and autoimmune diseases that will kill them off quickly down the road.

New based coin arrives pt.1

>>49267437
Beautiful stack!

>>49270333
Pt2

>>49270318
>A lot of the vaccinated won't die immediately but they will incur large amounts of cancers and autoimmune diseases that will kill them off quickly down the road.
trust the plan
-Q

How nice of the mail man to give me this money

>>49270311
Checked and your pic is pretty accurate in that most people these days seem unable to follow very simple logical chains unless the media lays it out for them. Normies have no interest in thinking things through for themselves, and if they can't quote a news story on the subject they don't really have an opinion. If your source is "critical thinking" you are instantly brushed aside as spouting unsubstantiated nonsense.

>>49270230
This whole end of western civilization has been a controlled demolition. Any decline in the living standards via reduced energy use per capita is all a scheme by Davos to reduce the world population and make the remaining easier to control. The energy shortages will be real, orchestrated even but it's not 'peak oil'.

>>49270389
>people with experimental mRNA vaccine aren't going to get cancer/die
ok anon

>>49264078
Useless after the crash

>>49270414
Nice anon. What do you have there, I can't really tell through the bag.

>>49268321
The Peak Oil people have been saying this for twenty years and nada. Their mistake is in not understanding how markets work. Markets are at their very best in allocating resources. The day will never come when suddenly all the wells run dry. What will happen is that the cost to extract will slowly increase. As it does, new methods will be developed (like fracking). Then those will become more expensive. At some point the price of oil, gas, and coal will get high enough that other energy options will become economical. The combination of higher fossil fuel costs and concern over carbon emissions will eventually silence the anti-nuke crowd and the world will go full-nuclear. Uranium and thorium, used to its full capacity, will power the world at current levels of consumption for a thousand years. So I'm not going to worry about it.

>>49270414
GULBENS

Nice where did you get them?

Pic very much related to discussion itt

>>49270462
This desu.

Biden's first move in office was scrapping Keystone XL. That leaves American oil, whatever's left of it, in reserve where it can't be spent and the support of the petrodollar kept in place: in the ground. Everyone in the US is paying higher gas prices because of this unfulfilled demand for government's sake and their oil/railroad cronies. They put a tourniquet on the bleed but there's really not much left. Fracking did a number on us, too.

Don't even get me started on the food plants burning down or the train derailments or the fertilizer shortage.

>>49270414
What a sweet guy. Nice stack anon.

>>49270528
dont bother, there are so many fucking retards on here that dont understand the first thing about anything.

>>49270567
As much as I hate our government and loathe to say what I'm about to say, they understand the global and future position of our nation better than we do, simply because they have access to information they go to great lengths to hide from us. I think our oil production is purposefully being stalled by our government to maintain the US's oil reserves. Why wouldn't we when our government can just trade fiat for other countries' oil reserves while it still can? The only downside is some pain to the average American's wallet, but as long as they perform the balancing act well they can maintain our reserves without causing too much dissent from the populace. It may play out well for us in the long term, especially if we eventually overthrow these cretins.

>>49270528
>What will happen is that the cost to extract will slowly increase. As it does, new methods will be developed (like fracking). Then those will become more expensive.
That's what we're talking about, anon.

You're right it would be easier to build nuclear power plants but that's assuming you live under a government that isn't hand in glove with globalist kleptocrats and their corporations.

>>49270693
>I think our oil production is purposefully being stalled by our government to maintain the US's oil reserves.
That's just what I said anon.

They won't be overthrown, they'll fly away before being held accountable. The soggy diaper boomers who've been in congress for fifty years already aren't even going to see it.

>>49270522
Guldens and half guldens

>>49270333
>>49270359
Where'd you get this beauty?

>>49270744
>That's just what I said anon.
Which is why I responded to your post, and not a completely unrelated post? Don't be so confrontational with people who agree with you fren.

>>49270805
dont tell me how to feel reeeeeeeeeeee

>>49270782
Gorgeous. Thanks for the pic anon.

>>49270826
I didn't, though to be fair I did tell you how to act, and for that I apologize. I should have said you shouldn't be so confrontational, because it detracts from your cause when people see you confronting people agreeing with you. Cheers though fren, we're in for a rough ride.

Should I buy an ounce of gold or 2000 worth of silver

nobody talking about the M&A of AUY by GFI? I had LEAPs on AUY and this was nice to see. anyone have any insight on this ? i thought Yamana was pretty big

>>49270693
Government is by nature parasitic to the host population, sucking it dry of blood just shy of killing it so it can continue to feed in the future. However today goverment has reached such a critical mass that it's weight is suffocating society to the point of collapse. So rather than accept losing dominion and control over humanity the governments wish to attempt a societal collapse so just maybe on the other side they can remain in power on the ashes of the previous world order.

>>49271022
I would say it depends on what you have. If you dont have any pm then I would go with Silver. Just because in a collapse you won't want to have the pain in the ass of dealing with a single gold coin. Silver is to buy food. Gold is to get away or buy a horse.

>>49269333
Trips checked!
>(lined with this stuff) and it won't tarnish?
Pretty much, yes. The cloth is impregnated with a compound that reacts with / absorbs sulfur more readily than silver, so it acts as a sacrificial anode (though chemical, not electric). It also means the cloth should be changed once in a while - years, if you keep the box mostly closed - don't let as much new air get in. This is the same stuff as lines purpose-built silverware boxes (pic related).

>>49271119
>Government is by nature parasitic to the host population
Based and Founding Father pilled. Our original government, as established by our Founding Fathers, was the golden mean between anarchy and tyranny, with a HEAVY emphasis on keeping the federal government as neutered as possible because of their understanding that governments are necessary, but parasitic. Following the conclusion of the Civil War the federal government usurped the power of the people and began dismantling the original government established by our Founders. This liberal democracy we live in is not the Republic we were founded on, and it shows most obviously in our financial system, the most important aspect of any society.

>>49269333
Checked, yes that is true. At least it will slow it down

>>49268190
Space mining will be essential for space travel and colonization. They will want the materials that make continued space exploration feasible - AL, Ti, Fe, Sn, H, O, etc. stuff that goes into building the structures and making air needed to protect life and create vessels and fuel. It's not about PM, though it might be an interesting find.

>>49271190
Great advice, anon, thanks.
I see some people with cloth pouches that they keep their silver in. I assume these are probably made of the same cloth?

Coin shop had a massive 2005 2oz Kook!

Got a shilling as well.

>>49271352
>I assume these are probably made of the same cloth?
Ask 'em. I have no idea.

>>49271352
>I assume these are probably made of the same cloth?
I doubt it. The cloth is kind of like felt. I wouldn't think it's very strong.

>>49271098
i also have some yamana but not a lot, not sure what youre talking about tho

>>49271352
I think most of them are made out of just plain jute, so no. At least mine, but what you can do is use a polyethylene (plastic code 4) bag to store it within your bag to keep it air tight and safe

>>49268190
>Why the hell do I keep on hearing about asteroid mining?
uhhhh because its the future??

>>49270697
The depletion of fossil fuels will not, by itself, be a big problem because the market will replace it as costs rise. That's how markets work. So if the argument is that the finite nature of oil reserves will, in and of itself, bring an end to civilization as we know it, that's bunk.

Of course you can always theorize that at some point an authoritarian government or global elite will intentionally destroy civilization. Maybe. But that isn't the result of Peak Oil and it is rather like a deus ex machina argument.

>>49271302
>Following the conclusion of the Civil War the federal government usurped the power of the people and began dismantling the original government established by our Founders.
It began earlier than that, when the Articles of Confederation were replaced with the Constitution. Lincoln, of course, made the problem worse, as did damn near every President after him.

>>49271649
I've had the AoC debate with people before and never managed to change anyone's mind on the subject, but I'll say that I believe the AoC was fundamentally flawed and those flaws would have become exacerbated with the rise of nation-states across the globe. There were certainly violations of the Constitution before the Civil War of course, but federalism was still the law of the land prior to the war's conclusion, so states could basically disregard the federal government if it stepped out of bounds. Little known fact is the Bill of Rights only applied to the federal government prior to the conclusion of the Civil War, that is how strongly federalism was rooted in our society. The Civil War wasn't about slavery, it was about the federal government usurping power.

is this a pm thread or not

>>49270542
I can breath easy knowing my wealth is stored in sound money

>>49271829
yes. you mad?

>>49271733
Some would argue that we need government because not all men are angels. However I say becuase some men are literally demons, government is a terrible risk to everyone.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The biggest risk in my mind to a peaceful and prosperous society is the overtly forceful, blunt instrument of force masquerading as a peacekeeping government.

>>49271829
Considering how much FUD and derailment there is, I believe it's a genuine PM thread.

>>49271885
if i want peak oil schizo threads ill go back in time 10 years ago

>>49271934
>Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Which is precisely why our original government was designed such that it had as little power as possible, and any attempts to increase its power could be thwarted rather easily by the states and the People. It's my opinion that without government those demons would pose a far greater threat to society, but that is only my opinion as we don't have many examples of European peoples surviving extended periods of time without government. Plenty of examples of how things work without government in Africa, but that's a different species and can't really be used as an example in my opinion.

>>49271829
>>49271982
Fair enough, I'll stop talking government. Sometimes I get lost in the derailment.

Picrel is my apology for posting off topic.

>>49272208
The sign of a skillful derailment.

>>49272250
Now *that's* inspirational!

>>49272281
They were making some good points about oil that the argumentative in me couldn't help but attempt to refute, and then somehow my dumbass forgot I wasn't on pol. Guess I owe a pic myself.

pg7 bump

Ordered some more E Caribbean 8 silver from apmex to fill in some gaps, found a gold Anguilla sailing regatta on sale and couldn't resist.

>>49266574
I don't know about the guy in particular you are talking about but yes, the EROI curve is very real and should scare the shit out of you.

>Finally got around to ordering some silver shot
>My place gets burglarized (two locks destroyed in total) and it gets stolen

Thank fuck it was only 50 quid worth of silver in total, the bulk of my stash is sitting securely at another place

Caught the perps on CCTV too, so i hope i'm getting it back soon in case the cops find it (probably not though since the other junkie bitch who let them into the flat was listening in on me mentioning the CCTV to the cops and likely warned her accomplices already about hiding the loot)

>>49273644
Sir you are under arrest for online hate speech

>>49273644
Did you put it into a safe?

>>49264595
Antique store
>>49264878
As far as I know they don't. Only time will tell

>>49270783
Found it on eBay!

the posts/posters ratio in this general is around 3:1 now

>>49276023
I'll contribute with a scrapping meme I made

guys can I rub silver over myself instead of showering? I hear it's antibacterial

>>49276151
>W. M. Rogers, Supreme Silverplate.

>>49276210
use copper, it's even better

>>49276210
Soap is better because soap is an agent that removes physical filth such as oils, sweat and dirt which silver doesn't do. People have been using soaps such as lye before germ theory of disease was even widely accepted, so it's not just a germ thing. But as a finisher I don't see why not, and a kilo bar is in the shape of a big soap block. But if you drop that thing when it gets slippery you're going to break your fucking shower, kilo bars do not mess around. Don't use copper, your hands smelling bad after touching pennies from a reaction copper has to your skin. Imagine your entire body stinking like that.

>>49276210
when I'm all hot I rub a silver coin over my forehead to soak up the sweat. Helps with the toning and is cleansing for the face

>>49276426
I rub my silver bar on the edge of the ice cream tub so it melts faster and I can scoop it quickly.

>>49272208
its fine, i overreacted

>>49276489
You haven't lived until you drop a hundred ouncer into a bag of ice

>>49273385
That's a pretty coin!

ZoomerStacklet.jpg

>>49268321
I'm just going to hide all your posts.

>>49276978
>no sovs
zoomer filth

>>49272302
I never knew Da Vinci was from Niue

>>49277037
My parents have real wealth. I convinced them to get sizable reserves of PMs. This is just my stacklet of leftover shekels from working my NeoCon journalist job at Uni.

>>49277106
>boring life story
still no sovs with such a regal bloodline?

>>49277142
What's the going rate on that picture right now? $2200?

>>49277179
it's a proof sov with no coa or box, so around £420 ($530)

>>49277211
I just realized how small it is compared to the keyboard. I thought it was an Oz.

>>49277106
You are doing well kid, at least you have some PM's

>>49277247
nope, 0.2354 troy oz of Gold, 22.05mm diameter.

>>49276870
Gotta go to my freezer and convince my family it's okay to melt all of the ice cubes they just bought

>>49277284
I kinda hope the price of silver will go up when the petrodollar is officially dead.

>>49277414
love some silver me

>>49277106
Keep stacking fren! We all started with next to nothing. Slow is smooth smooth is fast.

another wagmi is for sale
www.ebay.com/itm/354087526846
in case NewsAnon is lurking

>>49274990
guess we'll find out brother

Y'all know the goyim with no food stockpiles gonna run out of oil/food and starve, right? >>49276125

>>49277549
I also stack deens
I have nearly 2 years supply now.

>>49277610
I hate deens. My parents love 'em. They're stacking them. I guess if I am really fucking starving I'll eat them. I prefer SPAM. Sliced thin and cooked on frying pan.
>tfw you remember you have a SPAM SUBSCRIPTION
I am subscribed to spam. I have a bot that orders six cans of spam and six cans of Corned beef and hash, every month.

>>49277727
you don't have to love them, you just need to know they're rich in protein, full of good oils, and if you get the ones canned in tomato sauce, they're full of good vitamins too.
flavour? just drown them in hot sauce :)

>>49264078
i love how those goldbacks look but god is it an assrape on how expensive those are

>>49277800
Can overconsumption of hot sauce make you shit out all of your nutrients?

>>49277963
i'm immune to all but the spiciest of sauces now

>>49277978
Congratulations, you have irreparably damaged your tastebuds. Now, food just doesn't taste right without something spicy. It has no flavor to you.

AU + BTC

>friday is going to be post day
please DHL don't fuck it up there's gold comin

>>49278034
food is sustenance
poncing around about flavour and "gastronomy" is fenian behaviour.
A real Protestant likes his food bland and nutritional. Simple as.

>>49278052
your krugs look fake

>>49278109
>your krugs look fake
thats great anon, but i'll trust my sigma

>>49277435
'ate silver. A' neva boi collector silvae coins, 'cause tae get bloimish, taernish an' all tae shit. O'ly gold 'z good for collecting, silvae's for staeking, low praemium's best. Fack yae gothic crown, ya bastard.

>>49278084
Bitch look ugly, fack tae east india comp'ny

>>49278154
cool
>>49278155
simple as
>>49278198
pipe down lad, dems fightin words

>>49277853
cope poorfag

if something sells with "premium" then it never really had a "premium" to begin with. besides, any supposed "premium" is based off the arbitrary paper value (((assigned)))

>>49268321
so what you're saying is my tellurium solar play will pay off in droves?

Every time I see a fud post I buy another oz.

>>49278220

>2.5x premium on a homo bank round

>>49278315
>2.5x premium
can shove that up my arse

>>49278315

>>49278340
your*

>>49278340
>can shove that up my arse
they list that as a feature

>>49277179
That picture.
Imagine what it would be like, flying in what's basically a boat where you can stand or hang over the edge in the open air with your buddies. Wow...

>>49278315
Update to my list of boycotted mints/companies

>TD

>>49277853
>an assrape on how expensive those are
$1841 per oz gold divided by 1000 = $1.84 x 2 is $3.68. Just under 100% over spot for legit the smollest fractional gold you can get isn't bad at all. Unless you are ONLY stacking weight at as close to spot as you can get its a non issue. Premium is even worse on mintanons coins.

happy dayz

>>49278154
A literal sigma male
>>49273644
Were they black?
>>49268190
>asteroid mining
Ayo dequan deez niggaz thank they goin get goal'd n shit outta space rocks lmaooooo

>>49278569
>povertymart cheese slice
>manky salad
>some over-hopped "ReAl aLe"
you've made it pal

>>49278315
>Making fruits pay for that premium
Accidentally based.

>>49268190
The biggest issue with mining gold is the insane amount of dirt you need to move for tiny amounts of gold. If the main belt theory is correct and it was made as the result of a molten proto planet ripping apart then it stands to reason there should be veins of quite pure metals separated from the nickel iron mass by various centripetal and other forces during the event. The questions are, can you make mass to orbit cheap and are there rich veins of platinum group metals to be found in M-type asteroids on good orbits that require a minimal amount of delta v to inject your metal rich slugs onto an earth orbit intercept. Cost to orbit is coming down dramatically and I expect spacex will succeed with starship which will drop costs to the floor. What is really needed is a comprehensive analysis of all M type asteroids on low Dv orbits compared to earth to determine what kind of resources there are to exploit. For my money the answer is yes, but it will require time and capital to get to that point.

>>49278759
that's salad from the garden, greek olives, tomatoes on the vine, edam cheese and yeah cheap ale. cus I'm that kinda guy

>>49278820

>>49278471
this too. not to mention that's compared to (((spot)))

>>49278839
Sorry about your ability to read brother, here have a lewd rocket meme to jerk your low iq brain off to.

>>49268190
>>49271481
Asteroid mining will probably begin this century, but probably won't really take off until the 22nd century
I doubt the people of this century will see the gains asteroid mining will bring and will likely pay off for their descendants desu
A true long term investment

>>49278880
thanks man

>>49278759
>I hate everything other people like, the guy.

>>49278940
I liked his coins? Didn't mock them, did I?

>>49264078
booba delivery

>>49279027
Why 2013?

>>49277853
>>49278471
This is a useful video to refer to when thinking about comparing fractional gold premiums
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVMeLfoch1M
Goldbacks are around a middle ground and are better than I thought after viewing

>>49278239
>cope poorfag
I own some
they're beautiful, but retarded price-wise

>>49279065
>fractional gold
just get a half sov
0.11 troy ounce, 5% premium, simple as

>>49278875
Nothing against Mintanon, he is doing gods work for us. I can't wait for the Prospector coins to come out! Just the fact that complaining about premium while also paying over spot is like being mad you are hungry but continuing to not eat.

>>49279097
True

>>49279065
kk, will watch. ty
thought of getting more, and it definitely would have some since the act of depositing the gold would be expensive, but seeing those premiums always trigger my inner kike
most of the ones i bought in 1's and 5's I've given away as gifts to start getting people interested in them though

>>49279054
Trying to get a few of each from as many different years as I can. And they were the cheapest

>>49277549
Post stack of food supply when?

>>49278952
I was talking more about all of your posts, not just that one.

>>49279109
my 1906 was a grade C from chards, 1.5% premium, it's pretty worn, but still weighs correct

>>49279179
ah yeh, I'm on the spectrum, but highly functional

>>49279198
>but highly functional
More than most of my countrymen can say, cheers fren.

>>49279107
agreed

>>49279072
>I own some
still no pic

>>49278759
>over-hopped
no such thing, it's just a different kind of beer then as long as the Reinheitsgebot is protected. If they insert anything other than hops, malts and water, they're making piss though.
The fun begins at around 50 IBU for people who enjoy bitter beers, and if you don't enjoy it, there's a whole world of malty sweet beers to delve into instead. Beer is a big big fren zone, mixfags are non-frens and the IPA hipsters who don't even know or appreciate the craft itself can go fuck off as well, aside from that there's a beer for everyone who asks and seeks to try some.

>>49278463
Scamming gay people with that hefty premium isn’t so bad.

the faggot "stacker"
>posts pics on 4channel/reddit
>genuinely considers buying coins "a hobby"
>pays absurd premiums, treats it like pokemon cards
>spergs about Her Majesty the Queen being on designs he likes
>buys embarrassing 4chan mints
>has a few "pieces" dedicated for handling
>goldbacks
>has a dozen justifications for whatever current price performance is, half are antisemitic conspiracies
>will hide in "his room" if shtf before getting brained by tyrone or cletus
>10% of his expenditure is plastic cases and gay little treasure boxes
>shops around for hours every week, awaits mail day like a dog awaits a treat

the chad hedger
>buys no more than five convenient variants of bullion
>only buys widely recognised low premium options
>thinks about precious metals four times a year
>diversified portfolio which actually goes up: real estate, crypto, something neat like books or whiskey
>has necessary social connections to survive if shtf
>stores PMs in a secure safe and free tubes
>spends a dedicated fraction of his income on PMs without thought

>>49279173
are we posting our emergency pantries now too?

We…we gonna make it aint we?

>>49279551
I am, dunno about you fren, but I got no deens to share.

>>49279256
same anon as >>49279072
anons don't even trust eachother anymore

>>49279581
and from a while back

>>49279581
and with a stack of 18 silver apu's even

>>49279581
that's just an invoice. no actual pic?

>>49279402
>nooo stop spending money in ways I don't approve of

sorry but I'm just gonna do it (stack high premium funko pops) hahahaha

>>49279636
>>49279634
most of the goldbacks i gave out to family and friends
my grandfather loved it especially, since he's been stacking for 40+ years now
didn't buy more after the premium shock but i'll see what >>49279065 posted and think on it some more

>>49278154
Can't tell from the bad pictures but it definitely looks suspicious. If not fake, then horribly cleaned so much that the body detail has been polished off. Where did you get it from?

>>49279634
>>49279636
oh nvm. nice apus

>>49279694
people like them. I think you're thinking a bit off on how to assess premiums, yeah

>>49279065
premiums are way higher now.i dont see the point in buying any fractional gold except maybe quarter ounces for collecting. smaller purchases shouldnt be using gold in the first place

Fractional chads...... ARISE

>>49279065
>>49279736
pic from that video I saved
and the premium is lower if you get it from certain sources

Simple as.

So apparently according to this video, the EU has been snooping into bank accounts of those with Russian ancestry.

https://youtu.be/tArS6fiK7Vk

Just like with Canada, here's another reason why you can't trust the banksters. I wouldn't be surprised in the next decade trust in the banking system is going to be as low as MSM, perhaps stuff like this is the first of many cracks for the people to break away. It's fanciful thinking, but with instant global media communication and decentralized exchanges, the tools are in place to be used. The only issue stopping it is convenience as it always is. Crack that and that will create a domino effect.

>>49279736
>people like them
everyone of the several people I gave one too was starstruck by them, likely few if any ever saw gold on anything but a wedding ring, but a whole sheet covered with the beautiful glitter of gold amazed every single one. My mother literally is framing and displaying the 50 and couple others I gave her, she liked them so much.
if anything i'll get more for the specific purpose of handing out more to more family and friends, and they're so beautiful i want more for a personal buy but my inner kike sees the premiums for personal buys and kvetches

>>49279747
sir this biden penny makes zero cents

>>49279772
Can't you stamp the n-word over "better'?

>>49279747
Where do you get Biden Pennies?

>>49279871
scoop them out of a trannies arsehole as change for the dollar you paid him for a blowie

>>49279634
What's that year of the tiger looking bill?

>>49279581
nice
>>49279599
Checked
>>49279643
kek'd

>>49279871
Look up Biden zero cents silver on ebay. Don't think they sell em anywhere else
>>49279845
Technically it makes 71 cents because it has a gram of silver in it

>>49279953
that one's a "2022 Mongolia Lunar Year of the Tiger Silver Note"
a pretty one I'd love to buy more of from the look, but damn it's a thing to have 1 or 2 of only, because buying more is like "shit I could be buying more 1 oz's with these levels of premium"

>>49280001
But SIR it says zero cents sir

>>49279736
on the topic of apu's: has anyone heard updates on anonymint's bog rounds?
Haven't heard anything in 2 months now and I wonder if i got kiked

>>49280008
So close but so far lol. Damn I'll have to keep my eye out for some. How much silver is in it?

>>49279953
Whenever I see that thumbnail, it appears like a unicorn humping a camel.

>>49280076
you never even felt the wind gently pass you by as the rug was pulled, did you friend?

>>49279402
>>thinks about precious metals four times a year
Only have to deal with your faggotself 3 more times then

>>49279722
yes its much more worn than my other krug; i use it as my fondler

>>49280080
>How much silver is in it?
not a whole lot, just several grams. I bought it more for the looks than anything, plus "muh low mint number"

>>49280124
Usually from shitcoin rugpulls, not pmg silver mints from the same creator of a coin that I got ~20 silver apu's from

>>49279747
>zero cents
Kek on multiple levels

>>49280197
>not pmg silver mints from the same creator of a coin that I got ~20 silver apu's from
they never rug you first time pal, my condolences

>>49280197
last thread
>>49250498
>>49251596
>>49251812
>>49251848

>>49280001
Thanks anon. I might buy a few.

>>49280213
could be. Ordered from https://anonymintpm.com/ but i'm usually retarded, so who knows
the site is still up and posted pic related recently but who knows

>>49280253
nice, ty

>>49280083
Would its abomination offspring be called a Unimel or a Camicorn?

>>49280197
Not a bad get in my opinion! I'm defiantly jelly of it

>>49279842
the lower ones are a good price from defythegrid and the larger ones I think best on jm?
If you actually use them (or resell in any way) you're pretty much guaranteed to not pay the "premium"
here's some of my old pasta:

-value-
Average retail price
(though the old formula still works pretty well if you add another $0.60)
Old formula: $1.1 + (spot / 1000) * 1.155

-general info-
https://goldback.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5zyqKuqJ3o

-states-
Utah
Nevada
New Hampshire
*Wyoming
*South Dakota

-durability-
https://youtu.be/LT-NW8vfb3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ31IjtXtik

-examples of use-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQrbaSWdiHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCsJxk3mV70

-available-
https://defythegrid.com/ - cheapest prices
https://bullionexchanges.com/
Jmbullion

>>49280410
>retarded shilling for jewbacks
no

>>49280076
>>49280124
>>49280213
>>49280276
mintanon would be dumb to rug on the bogcoin. he's making a lot of money from anime prospector

>>49280083
i don't see that at all

>>49280410
oof that durability test hurt to watch lol.

>>49280410
ty again. pmg threads are a place for the best info

>>49280452
>>49280083
>i don't see that at all
Neither do I maybe he can point it out kek

>>49280469
>>49280520
https://youtu.be/8rhO7TRp6z8
2:00 is the answer to the dumb "cAn I mElT iT?"
in addition to "why?"

>the mentally retarded sov spammer/shiller is back

>>49280560
don't act like you didn't miss me, cunt

Goldbacks are a super cool concept. I hope they really do start taking off, especially once dollars become (more than they already are) toilet paper.

for me, it's .900-.916 fine coinage

>>49280620
>1 retarded post by this id
pottery

>>49280658
>half the posts in a thread btid
you dumb shills make the threads worse

>>49280678
i lift these threads up and keep them moving with aesthetic coins and insightful takes

>>49280644
no 80% loons?

also goldbacks are going through 64 ozt of gold a day in their production now...
that's 0.01% of US supply, per year
and they're only doing 4 of the smallest states so far

>>49280620
agreed. not to mention when they do take off how early we are for numismatics. I have a botched serial on my 50 and the original 2019 utah sets are selling for a lot now (changing the utah design too)

i want some rounds with the monarch ship, but their 1 gram gold round premium is too high

they should use that art a lot more

>>49280701
Those things are fit. I have a 18something florin but it’s heavily worn. Would love me a couple of full size 1oz versions.

We’re these a set? For like £250?

>>49280912
the crown was £200 (it's an EIC restrike) and the portrait of R Vic was £310 from ebay (I know, got raped, I just like the coin)

personally as a collectors item and as a barter the goldack is very nice, but it has been stated multiple times by the company itself as well as those who advocate for the use of goldback to never stack goldback as that is not their purpose
If you purchase to collect, cool, if you purchase to use in personal transactions, great, but stacking goldbacks is not it's intended purpose and I would advise against it
standard coin or bars with lower premiums are meant for stacking, and any fractional gold is not a good way to stack if that is your intention or goal

>>49280822
monarch's fractional premiums are some of the best
see >>49279767 >>49279065

>>49280703
i like the canadian junk but i try to stay disciplined with my stacking

also junk is way too high in premium these days

>>49281038
True
Very nice how they can make such neat designs for such a lower premium compared to other similar concepts

>not investing in petrified wood
NGMI

>>49281118
>petrified wood
Patrician tastes desu

Lol, you're wasting your cash on trash and then cry on 4ch on every topic. Be smarter, kiddies, look at Enegra

> Token supported by actual shares
> Legit company operating for 10+ years
> Multi-billion $$$ assets backing the equity!

>>49280945
Were they proof versions or more than 1oz? They still absolutely gorgeous

>>49276383
I do have two 1kg bars. if you find any bars on the market with scrub marks on them you'll know they're mine
>>49276489
>using your silver as reverse ice cubes
now there's a thought
>>49281118
I've thought about it actually. it's pretty but no one ever talks about petrified wood. I get the feeling there's a lot of it around?

>>49281095
yes

>>49281038
theyre not a terrible deal but such a small amount isnt for me

>>49281470
then you will never have a full ship-coin collection. unfortunate

>>49281462
that's beautiful
cast bars are kino

>>49270542
Yeah, buying a 1 oz AGE as I just remembered the fact that before Gates "predicted" covid, there was a lot of warning against online bank accounts worldwide throughout the 2010s, and knowing the reputation Russians have for hacking, I know damn well something is going to happen before the end of the year.

>>49281219
shoo shoo shitcoin shill

>>49278471
>$1841 per oz gold divided by 1000 = $1.84 x 2 is $3.68. Just under 100%
>It's only 2x spot price bro

sides entering stratosphere

>>49281652
yeah but the advantage here is that you can ignore greshams law and give away your extremely expensive fractional gold instead of worthless fiat more conveniently

>>49278471
>100% over spot

>>49281713
kek

>>49281592
agreed

>>49281462
>>49281592
>>49281743
I agree they look fantastic and have a certain eye appeal to them, but I find them hard to resell and convince they are authentic, especially unbranded ones

>>49281788
i like the 5 ozt bisbee button

>bought silver at $29/oz
>bought gold at $1980/oz
#winning

>>49282185
how much did you lose on the shit coin you are trying to shill?

>>49282269
$24/oz *
I only own a mutual fund, $CAD, and precious metals.

>>49278471
Paying double price for anything is poor person behavior. Just save up and buy 1 oz coins, fractional gold is the equivalent to k-mart layaways. Throwing money away because you're impatient.

>>49282655
>>49281713

>>49281007
Who?

>>49264078
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