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not until we get helmets with peripheral VR vision and actual good games that aren't janky ports

It will never happen no matter how hard Valve/Zucc push this garbage

>>49262325
>Is VR ever going to catch on for a mainstream audience?
already did lmao

I bought a quest 2 for RE4 VR and played through it a few times. Haven't touched it since.

Fuck VR, let's work on perks to improve your combat skills.

Televisions were ready to enter the mass market in the late 1920s. The depression delayed the rollout because there was no market. VR will be similar. It’s ready to go now, but it won’t take off until the early mid 2030s.

>>49262402
Hurr durr me want gun

>>49262373
Basically this

>>49262325
The only good thing that VR brought us was Half Life: Alyx. Nothing's gonna do it better than that.

Most people don’t know that vr already is on the level of ready player one, the bear headset isn’t a valve index theirs like 4 headsets that already look like real life their just extremely expensive

Varjo xr3 : $6500
Varjo Aero: $25000
The new crazy best one that’s coming out that will make anyone not believe real life anymore the new pimax OLED which is also $2400

>>49262424
just buy a fucking pc and play things like a normal dude

The best*

>>49262406
Can we expect another 2008 crash?

>>49262438
And it’s gets even crazier most of you retards just don’t understand tech, but it’s actually possible to make things look more real than actual real life.

>>49262325
>Is VR ever going to catch on for a mainstream audience?
VR is for mainstream nigga, wtf. its problem is the price, that shit is expensive af, even the mobile vr requires a great investment

>>49262325
Yeah, eventually. The whole of the West is being pushed towards the internet, mass adoption of VR is going to be a natural consequence of that.

>>49262438
CAN ANYBODY DO THIS?

the problem is not the vr itself, but the content made for it take

a look and you'll be surprised with the big amount of shit available, you can count the exceptions on your fingers

>>49262424
There*
Varjo aero $2500*

The new one that’s coming is called the Pimax 12k qled i fucked all that up

>>49262325
ready player one sucks

All metaverse projects love using these sorts of buzzwords to make themselves more attractive to normalfags for some bizarre fucking reason. You can find shit like elysian being the most stereotypical project you could ever think of when someone mentions the word "metaverse" with all its associated buzzwords. It's honestly insane.

Opinions on Borrow Pools?
Things like AAVE and Sublime are useful AF for the newfags or if you need to make a quick investment and your money is staked

>>49262325
When vr headsets shrink to glasses size

>>49262438
console*
Or not play video games if over 22

>>49262466
tech is retarded and for nerds

>>49262325
only coomers and retarded children will use it so nah

I hope so, I just finished playing a VR boxing game. I won but my heart was pounding in my ears and I'm drenched in sweat.

>>49262325
> usecase

I dont fucking care, but playing F-14 in a sim, yeah, VR is something that now I want, for the first time.

>>49262325
seeing VR like holoride on the buzz and on Forbes, they're already in the mainstream.

>>49262325
yes but like in 10 years more

>>49262325
Can't wait for the holoride VR technology to go live on cars. Transit time would be more productive and immersive

not going to happen
its like video gaming in the 90s, niche that is never going to be main stream

>>49262504
true.
The best game is a tech demo by a one man team and degenerates that have modded Skyrim into a virtual reality sex game

Literally the golden age, if you are interested in getting involved. VR might never really reach mainstream, but gaming never did as well, and still for early adopters a gold mine with giant growth potential

>>49262325
When they're comfortable enough to wear 16 hours a day. I can stare at a normal screen 16 hours a day, that's comfortable. Make VR as comfortable.

>>49269050
Tell me more about this "tech demo"

>>49263266
>he's on /biz/ and he thinks PC is just for games
Ummmm it's the best platform for excel, sweetie. I need that big monitor to browse through all of my sheets, in fact I need multiple. I hecking love Excel

>>49262325
when i think of VR i think of 30 year old men grooming 12 year old boys in VR chat rooms

>>49269184
To be fair that's what you think of most of the time

VR space is so fucking empty right now and there is like 10 games out there that worth your time. Thats why I want to make first house of the dead like game because people will buy anything

>>49262504
Modded Skyrim is still the best VR experience, that's the problem.

>>49262377
not at all, retard. VR is still trash.

>>49262406
VR is horrible. Headsets still need work and games are AWFUL. Have you people even tried it recently?

>>49262424
>Most people don’t know that vr already is on the level of ready player one
Show me where to get an omnidirectional wireless treadmill and a full body suit?

Dead as 3d tv's.

>>49262325
>oh no new pandemic/sun crap/solar radiation is going to kill us all
>looks like we have to use VR

>>49262325
nah the headsets are too clunky/expensive.

>>49262459
Much much worse, ever heard of the 'Everything Bubble'?

>>49264877
>only coomers and retarded children will use it
So give or take 25% of the population?

>>49269372
https://youtu.be/E48XS9o7_QY

This video covers multiple body suits and haptics

https://youtube.com/shorts/4DdFmv4qqS0?feature=share

Here's your current consumer level "treadmill" you'll see in VR arcades at the low level under stress with someone sprinting in it

https://youtube.com/shorts/4DdFmv4qqS0?feature=share

The treadmill you see in ready player one isn't fiction, it's a real omni directional treadmill that you can buy today called an infinideck btw

>>49263266
>console*
Lmao not even if you paid me.

>>49262415
>hurr durr
>against guns
we got one boys

Nope. It's about the 3rd time they try it since 1985 and it just doesn't stick.

>>49262325
I think it will. I've surprisingly been hearing from boomers who are enjoying Oculus Quest 2s.
A few of my friends bought Indexes. I have a poorfag Rift S

>>49262325
Only if they can reduce motion sickness and incorporate cheap haptic feedback.

No one wants to change their screens yet when Monitors are doing the same job twice as fast. Given VR has only proven to be a small step towards virtual interaction, the current play is going to remain a gimmick. Fun for games, has some practical use for referencing 3d models, still won't teach you how to cut hair or fix a car.

>>49262325
Oh hi mark

>>49269372
>>49270023

Not only that mr frens but there is a suit called the “Tesla suit” that can literally allow you to feel anything

https://youtu.be/OEMa2-IVfyw

This is the business and finance board so price is really out the question when I make it would have no problem dropping 40k even 50k to go to different worlds


https://youtu.be/OEMa2-IVfyw

Fuck the feeling of just being touch this shit can simulate fucking water drops, feeling of someone walked past you crazy part is I never even seen ready player 1 I only said cause that’s one most normies know fuck player one bro vr is on the level of real life but it’s just expensive but that’s with all enthusiast tech.

no and that's a good thing

>>49270985
Nah you can do all that with the best setup you could Unironically simulate gutting someone alive especially with Unreal engine 5 and nvidias Meta humans. Be excited because u normies have no clue how crazy VR tech already it.

>>49262325
No, big tech has a weakness, these retards get too complacent once they've made a monopoly or got ''too big to fail'', they always claim to know whats gonna be the future, but they always fail, turn to ashes and new talent comes in to show us the true way, rinse and repeat.
Remember the dot com bubble? All the failed tech? All the idiots that said they'd get big?


Well VR is the exception, its definitely happening

I bought a quest 2, already had a vr capable gaming pc. Best $300 I've ever spent. A lot of friends and family out of state so we squad up on games. It's about the only socialization I get these days outside of work but it's helped immensely.

>>49262402
Anon, that's what H3VR is for. It's unironically improved my shooting by being a decent range simulator in my living room.

>>49262325
It's possible looking at the innovations that will come to projects projects using VR technologies when art consortium finally go live on Allianceblock Fundrs..

>>49270985
Holy shit I realized that all the enthusiast grade vr headsets I listed were literally make for high level pilot training.

>>49262418
And imaginary life too. That's the idea behind the Metaverse dude... But this might change when ARTCO and ALBT finally merge.

VR on bulky plastic headsets and accessories is obviously shit and will never catch on.
When they have a proper brain links and stream this shit directly into your consciousness it will be solid technology but that might take another few decades to happen.

>>49262325
I still get sick using them quite often. It's useful for work stuff though

>>49271133
The VR technologies is just real life simulation on the highest degree... I'm looking at the developments coming there in the later days ...

>>49262424
its not a headset issue its a controller issue
none of this shit will be more then gimmicks until we get matrix tier neuralinks
the movie itself shows how improbable its setup is, with scenes of people fucking up their living room trying to game and also try and explain to me how the zero g dance scene is remotely possible to control on a fucking treadmill

>>49262366
VR games are the only games that are any good anymore. But it's usually random indie stuff made by 1 guy in his basement (phasmophobia) and not AAA titles.

>>49270023
Alright when can I hold a loli's hand in vr? And feel it as well?

>>49262325
Yes, for the same reason he stated in the movie, people are getting tired of all of this shit, and they are realizing that they just can't justify clown world anymore, not only in the states, all over the world, including korea, japan and china (which is saying something). So slowly they are having to face reality, just look at the youth now days, a lot of cynicism in very young people, and they approach problems that most boomers would not even think about it until they were much older, or would never think about it at all. Ask any young person if they want to work 40, 50 years and built a 'carrier' to retire and most will say that is insane in one form or another... VR will be one of the saving graces of this generation, we will be freed from the bonds of our societal structure and to some extent reality itself, just like the internet did, but a much, much larger scale.

>>49271779
What controllers did you use? I have an index and like the controllers for the most part. But moving and turning/aiming all at the same time isn't really possible compared to a keyboard + mouse unless you're walking around (and then you run into all kinds of locomotion issues because while it's cool to have body mapping in VR it limits you to your physical space).

I think we need some sort of third input such as pressure pads in shoes or something that can register your footsteps without actually moving.

>>49262325
If you think it will catch on for a mainstream audience, you are probably not someone who has sex.

>>49262325
Never. It is a pathetic longing for societal escapism; a retreat from the immense human guilt of the destruction of our environment. Every penny spent on virtual reality as opposed to remediation of the of the scars we have left on earth will accrue karmic interest tenfold.

>>49271959
Kek. Like the internet didn't catch on to mainstream you mean? You're funny. It's only a matter of time.

My man you could fucking feel a hair on a nipple with this glove

https://youtu.be/gw-cnzeXmpk
You can simulate the feeling
of flying like Superman ass naked with a Tesla suit and the wind flying all around you, I can’t tell u everything now cause I would be spoiling some crazy ideas I have but it’s already all possible.

>>49271987
Cryptocurrency is the new internet. Not VR.

>>49262325
No. VR has a few problems
1: Nobody wants to use headsets with any sort of weight on them for a prolonged period of time. After a couple of hours it becomes uncomfortable for most people to use it.
2: too many people suffer from motion sickness while using VR.
3: Part of the sales pitch of VR is more freedom of movement while using your body. But most people are not physically in shape enough to be able to play well in any sort of difficult game for an extended period of time. And this isn't just me saying that gamers are fat (which they are) but rather that difficult games will require a lot of consistent movement that even normies would struggle with if they had the skill to play them.
There's other smaller issues but those are the 3 big ones.

>>49262325
The Quest 2 sold more than the PS5 and whatever the new xbox is called.
Next generation of VR headsets are coming with:
>smaller form factor
>higher FOV
>foveated rendering + FSR like upscaling
2028 will probably be the time VR goes from mobile gaming tier to PC/console tier in terms of investment.

>>49272027
Not even escapism you could learn how fly a fucking spaceX rocket without even leaving your home but I don’t wanna say the things you can really learn with advanced vr is actually pretty unfair.

>>49272027
There is a mask that can reproduce the smell of things... it can throw hot or cold air in your face, imagine a explosion, vibration all that, flashes, hot air in your face, or driving and the cold air with smell of pines blowing in your face, we may achieve near full immersion with a suit and a set of things we already have... mainstream will make these things cheap like the iphone and pushes forward innovation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azMSaG7tSt4

>>49272090
>>49271985
Meant to @ you fren

>>49272034
You just don't get it...

>>49272112
Holy fuck I didn’t even know about this, what a time to be alive, I really can’t wait to simulate travling to different planets and seeing realistic fucking dinosaurs that I can fly away from kek

>>49271890
>it limits you to your physical space
i meant this its a pretty hard fundamental barrier to overcome
the hand controllers are pretty ok at the moment, but you cant really do anything remotely like what is expected of a modern game when you are confined to your physical state
so some gimmicky things like a boxing simulator or escape room can work but you hit limits rather quickly

>>49272083
I think Point 3 is actually a plus. I've played hours of beat saber before and it feels almost like a cardio workout. Maybe it's dangerous though if you don't realize how tired you're getting and don't take breaks?

>>49272193
I think it's pretty cool, immersion is about fooling the senses and isolating the subject, fuck, when I play in my console I twitch all over the place, and try to dodge shit, and that is with a controller in my hand, no VR, I'm sure I'm not the only one...

>>49272203

https://youtu.be/R-bWKF6ySTo

This in in conjunction with some socks that are in production can allow you to feel fucking mud squish between your toes bro. Do I need to go further? Shits crazy man

>>49263266
ya just spend your free time browsing 4channel and walking

>>49272112
How well can it reproduce anime girl anuses?
I am an avid consumer of Koikatsu titles.

If I ever make it I'll buy everything needed for a flight sim. By the time I have the components there probably will be better vr and a good space sim, thats what I dream about at least.

>>49270023
>>49271058
>links to prototype trash and expensive gear that isn’t sold to retail
kys, VR is garbage and the people pushing for it so hard like you are subhuman kikes

>>49272276
I don't know, but when I searched about this, it seems to be able to work like a printer for smell, it uses the same or similar juices to vape, so I'm pretty sure they can make any smell, all of them, even smells more real then real smells... Exiting time to be alive, exciting time...

>>49272340
Actually fren most of this technology was not made for gaming but training and simulation and these company’s just started to go public but let’s be honest if you have money it’s not hard to shoot one of these dudes a email like “I have 14k right now for your Tesla suit good sir”

>>49262325
yes. the children of today are being conditioned to use it just like how playing SNES as kids conditioned us to become lifelong gamers

I'd argue VR is the real next generation. Look at the current state of gaming for PS5, Xbox S, Switch. The graphics aren't huge leaps in technology anymore. The Last of Us, a game from 2013 still blast shit out the water come out today. Along with games taking longer and longer to make. Gaming as it is, is stagnating and VR is the ansewer. You look at Halo, COD, all the big franchises you can see they don't even know what to do anymore, their biggest selling points are "Hurr Open World Now!"

>>49272244
Absolutely. funny that you talk about tricking the senses because that’s what most displays do have 2d hyper detailed images but here’s where the rabbit hole just goes further and further https://youtu.be/dGzj-AgI6RI

Nvidia is working on hologram displays which the end game of vr like current headsets can already trick you into different worlds but the hologram ones will be the craziest shit ever. Makes you wonder how far you can go

>>49272112
imagine the smell


no wait..

>>49272456
Which would be the end game of vr headsets*

>>49272456I meant to say I don’t think you could go further after hologram vr headsets at that point not sure what else one can do with headsets is wha

>>49262325
I honestly think the Quest 3 will do it. The Quest 2 is already so close. It just needs to be able to play stand aline games with better than ps2 graphics.

>>49272456
>Makes you wonder how far you can go

Profit with Enegra? EZ!

> Token supported by real shares
> Real company operating for 10+ years
> Multi-billion $$$ assets backing the equity!

>>49262418
Honestly one of the best games I've ever played. Really sold me on VR. Especially the part with the Jeff creature.

>>49272248
>dodge behind cover
>jump directionally
don't get my wrong this are pretty nice techs, but you are still faced with a pretty hard physical barrier compared to keyboard + mouse

>>49272456
This is very interesting, it's what I'm saying, progress, it never ends... incredible stuff.

>>49272517
That's the thing with technology, it never, it never stops giving, who knows, maybe they'll design a lens you wear, or a strip you attach to your head, like the ones china is using in it's elementary students... that's what makes this so exciting, it has just as much potential as the internet, if not more. It's another fucking revolution all on itself.

>>49271987
Internet was always useful. I can't think of any business uses for VR that aren't niche. You could use it for training (doesn't require every trainee to own their own headset, they can just go to a training center) or you could use it for things like 3D design or telerobotics control, which both would be owned by whatever company you work at. VR will not catch on the same way 3D printing hasn't caught on. It won't be something every single consumer uses, but it will be a gadget useful for nerds and companies.

>>49262325
Sure, google are doing a new version of their glasses which is apparently insanely good. Normies will get into it when it doesn't require strapping a hot sweaty screen to your face which isn't that far off

>>49262325
No it will always be niche. That said I do have a headset and shit like blade and sorcery and skyrim vr are really great.

>>49272896
don't you need a bunch of mods to make skyrim vr good? hows the combat?

>>49272962
Yeah I have all the mods, so far it's amazing. The combat is still wonky but enjoyable, that said I'm playing a mage so I don't really feel the wonkiness as much. Just walking around skyrim and then seeing the auroras along with Masser and Secunda in the sky is seriously breathtaking.

>>49272864
Kek. They said the same about the internet, you're probably young, search some documentaries about the early internet and personal computers, no need to go as far as the 80's, just early to mid 90's will be enough. I don't mean to troll you, but you really have no idea how gigantic this is, we aren't even in the 95's of VR... Just ask yourself, realistically what use does myspace or facebook has to the regular guy or girl? None, if anything it's a hindrance, haven't you learned anything with modern day society? Things are not valued based on their realness or usefulness. If it were, people that do hard labor would be millionaires and billionaires, and most of them if anything are middle class... it's not only the industrial application that will buy this... maybe in the beginning, but this is just the next iphone, it's inevitable.

>>49262325
No. Putting something on your head and giving up all vision of real life is too claustrophobic.

>>49272456
>Makes you wonder how far you can go

>>49273025
>myspace or facebook has to the regular guy or girl? None, if anything it's a hindrance, haven't you learned anything with modern day society?
It only seems that way because people have used and abused these things over time. Social media is undeniably useful to reach people over the internet and organize events, sell items in your local area, and discuss news with people in all your social circles. Case in point, I saw my dying grandfather and he saw me over video call through social media.
>it's like the next internet
The same thing has been said of every technology. Every technology successful or unsuccessful has had its detractors and supporters, comparing to a successful one alone doesn't make an argument for mass adoption.

>>49273025
I can tell you're in your 20s because you haven't gotten to that point where you realize how empty entertainment is and that it gets old after a while.
There aren't as many young (and white) people as there were in the 90s, and so there's less of a match between developers (mostly white/western) and consumer.
But ultimately - everything has been done.
There's only so many times you can make another rehash of Star Wars or Tom Clancy.
Also, the world comes to an end when cattle realize they are being genocided by child torturers.

>>49273197
Agree to disagree, if you can't see it, I don't have the time to explain it to you, sorry.

>where you realize how empty entertainment is and that it gets old after a while.
It's called life, everything gets old and over used, wasn't mark twain that said everything is a mix of old things arranged in a different way? What's the alternative? Most people don't think that way, and most importantly, they don't care...
And if they do care, they are too fucking busy doing whatever, so, although you are partially right, I really don't see it, it won't change anything, just take a look at all big religions, they tried, but ultimately they failed, because that too gets old, only change stays, only progress, when this comes (VR), will it last forever? No, but what does? And btw, everything is entertainment, everything, even your pain. It's all a game.

>>49271058
>this shit can simulate fucking water drops
I have a leaky tap that can do this for free. I can even take a shower, bet your simulation can handle that.

>>49273229
>where you realize how empty entertainment is and that it gets old after a while.
It's called life, everything gets old and over used, wasn't mark twain that said everything is a mix of old things arranged in a different way? What's the alternative? Most people don't think that way, and most importantly, they don't care...
And if they do care, they are too fucking busy doing whatever, so, although you are partially right, I really don't see it, it won't change anything, just take a look at all big religions, they tried, but ultimately they failed, because that too gets old, only change stays, only progress, when this comes (VR), will it last forever? No, but what does? And btw, everything is entertainment, everything, even your pain. It's all a game.

>>49273417
Fucking savege

>>49273766
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>>49269122
search for skyrim sexlabs

>>49262325
Yeah. The next pandemic will likely seal the deal.

>>49262325
NO