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Gilded Circle Edition

>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Bullion dealers
https://jmbullion.com/ (US)
https://goldsilver.be/en/ (BE/EU)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (UK)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Russian/European coins
https://oldsilver.ru/ (EU/UK/US)

>Mintanon/Holocoinanon Coins
https://pastebin.com/HD00dTKS

>Constitutional/"junk" silver info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com/

>Compare Spot Price Websites
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>News
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid, Magnets and Ping Test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>Relevant information regarding mining companies
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

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>>49246826

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Stacking is the safest investment you can make. Ignore meme coin shills.

>The Royal Mint Reveals Meme Stock Volatility Sparks Gold Investments

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>>49246931

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reposting my the EU silver thing I posted in the last thread:
got an update from celticgold in my email, I'll quote what I think is most important for EU anons below:
>Estonia Road Map: - The minimum order volume is 1,000 Euros for Estonia orders. If you wish to order below 1,000 Euros there is an extensive range of margin scheme taxed silver coins (and all gold products available) shipping from Germany. The shipping is included in the grand total.
> - All Estonia VAT-free products are marked with "VAT-free Estonia". The only two exceptions are the Maid Marian and Philharmonic as they are on sale.
> - All VAT-free products are in-stock or moving into Estonia, this is the reason why there is very little availability. Physical Silver is still very scarce.
> - We will announce a closing window approx. around 24th June 2022 so all paid orders will before the deadline.
> - Orders moving after June 30th because of late payments will be charged an additional 20% VAT.
> - The range of VAT-free silver products on www.celticgold.eu will be discontinued approx. June 28th 2022.
in case you missed it:
>there is very little availability
>Physical Silver is still very scarce

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>>49246962

>> No.49247053

>>49246997
oh and I don't know how europeanmint will handle the transition, but I do know they're backed up as fuck with orders. I haven't dared buy much silver from there because by the time it ships I might get surprised with VAT crap for all I know

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>>49246935
>The Royal Mints DigiGold Platform

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>>49246826
gm frens

https://youtu.be/jIjTFt6XmFM

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>>49247004

>> No.49247407

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.49247481

>>49247269
I want Morgan Freeman to read that out, would be legendary.

>> No.49247515

>>49247407
You alright anon?

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>>49247201

I think its "Fab 15" as in one of the fab 15 coins the Canadian Mint produces.

>> No.49247596

>>49247269
this anon is right about shitcoins, but for well-established coins like BTC you'll find that they too require substantial amounts of (social) labour to produce. the electricity to run the mining rigs, the actual iron mining to produce the steel that make up the racks and chassis, putting up the building that houses the miners, installing and maintaining them etc etc.. if these costs were much different from the price of BTC then some miners could easily undercut the others, thus pushing the price of BTC down. TL;DR: BTC and gold both follow the predictions of classical value theory

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>>49247269
Bitcoin is hard money as much as gold or silver is

It can't be manipulated easily, it's fungible, it's deflationary and limited in supply, and it's PoW

The truth is, Bitcoin (not other cryptos which ARE scams) and PMs have a lot of common; they are two sides to the same coin (heh) and only 4chan contrarianism and autism prevents the two groups from merging against the (((banks)))

I'm a perfect world payment would only be accepted in physical gold, physical silver, or bitcoin

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>>49247596
Based same-though fag; have a windmill of frenship

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49247740

My tiddy Angels arrived. Now to wait for charity 1oz whenever that comes out.

Hoping for an alternative range of queens vices.

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>want new coin
>mint will only sell via phone call
>too much of a sperg to call and order

>> No.49247873

>>49247596
>>49247685
lol are you niggers serious. proof of work doesn't matter if it doesn't produce an actual object. gold/silver is an actual physical object, crypto is just numbers on a screen. they don't make jewelry out of crypto, do they? they don't make phones and solar panels out of crypto, do they? absolutely fucking retarded.

I'm sorry to tell you that you've fallen for a scam. You can seethe all you want but you should save it for the day when your scamcoins (aka ALL of them) go to 0.

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>>49247685
This, fanboys and D&C shills stopping us from uniting against the reason why are system is so fucking shitty and manipulated. The banks and the government

>> No.49248056

>>49247873
So how would you do digital transactions then? That is here to stay

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>electricity's out, can't trade can't pay
>no internet, can't verify the blockchain while this hobo offers me 4000 bitcoin for a bic lighter
>it's wartime lol we confiscate your mining rigs for number crunching and cyphercracking
>electricity prices shoot through the roof - bitcoin, which requires precisely that to work, somehow falls into a slump - manipulated or just useless?
>"you bought a magazine which differs from party line thought with bitcoin in 2023 therefore you are to be executed, the blockchain proves it lol" says the judge in 2040
>buy an apple with 0.000000001874 bitcoin, takes a week to verify the transaction as well as additional two apples in transaction cost
>51% attack
>2000 Nu-Bux required to pay rent, that's 0.1 bitcoin - oh shit it just updated because the FED said so, now it's 200 bitcoin, a shame you only had 3 so you are now homeless
I could go on for ages why a physical store of value tied to nothing but the metric system is the best thing we'll ever have as a trading tool for exchange

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It's not much, but they're my first pieces of silver. They feel nice to hold.

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>>49248056
>buy 3 pcs set of dragon dildoes or whatever on Amasoy
>bankwire 2 oz of silver worth of whatever meme currency we use right now to the seller
>seller can redeem it at any bank for 2 oz of physical
that's how it's supposed to work. The "middlemen" will have to work for free, all that takes is to replace them with computers. They're fair if programmed in best intentions.
Radical Idea - what if you'd tie the price of bitcoin to gold or silver once every last one of the fucks is mined and use that for bank transfer? Suddenly your numbers can always be exchanged for a store of value, it would work. You need to relentlessly weed out bad actors from the system though, with harsh punishments for fucking with money and alas - that's anti-semetic.

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>>49248176
if you want to keep them shiny forever put them in a condom, but I highly advise you to dedicate one fondle piece to natural tarnish and have it grab ready at your desk. Spin it, touch it, whatever you like. If you hate the tarnish (I still have none after half a year) you can easily clean the round as well with some baking soda, aluminum foil and hot water.

>> No.49248235

>>49248056
I could see a metals/commodities-backed currency verified via public blockchain ledger. When USD collapses, I think there will be a rush by countries to develop the most real and reliable currency possible in a bid to become the new world reserve currency. Keep in mind, this is a currency that can exist as paper money in the form of claim checks redeemable for physical commodities, as well as a digital currency.

It wouldn't be perfect, but it would address the issue of digital transactions without resorting to imaginary funny money like btc does. Because I seriously hope you don't think btc is real after what is happening to tether right now lmao

>> No.49248241

>>49247720
>hitleroid
you should probably look up what Adolf and his friends thought about classical political economy. hint: they were not fans
>>49247873
>lol are you niggers serious. proof of work doesn't matter if it doesn't produce an actual object
bits on disk aren't material? how do you propose data are stored? magic?
>I'm sorry to tell you that you've fallen for a scam
lol I've been cashing out tens of thousands of yooros/dollaridoos over the last couple of years. more recently I'm cashing out in PMs

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>>49247873
I feel bad for you anon, I used to think and shitpost like you before I actually educated myself on Bitcoin and I realized how revolutionary it really is

>>49248008
Agreed

>>49248186
That is a fucking terrible idea that would lead right back to (((central banking)))

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>>49248186
btw this shit could easily be done with the dollar. In fact, it HAS been done. Until murrca deleted the gold standard. They cheated the system and the peasants didn't rise up to fight it, this is why generations will have to suffer now.

>> No.49248277

>>49247407
Same, anon.

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>>49248241
>you should probably look up what Adolf and his friends thought about classical political economy. hint: they were not fans
Nobody is perfect anon, just because he was based on the (((elvish question))) and many other things doesn't mean Reich economics was the end-all too

>> No.49248291

>>49248223
They came in little plastic sleeves, but I think I'd like those round display cases like the ones you have. And cheers for the cleaning advice.

>> No.49248300

>>49248176
nice lookin Silver anon.
ya doin good

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Looks like my forecast is going to be right, energy crisis this winter is imminent, money printer gonna go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

>> No.49248328

>>49248241
making money via speculation is not comparable to investing in gold or silver, zoom zoomtard.

So what can you do with those bits on disk, chief? You gonna try to make a solar panel with that? lmfao. retard.

>>49248247
I seriously hope no one's stupid enough to listen to pajeetcoin scammers like you.

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>>49248247
>That is a fucking terrible idea that would lead right back to (((central banking)))
precisely because we know its inevitable, we either have to make every good country candidate 110 first or have people monitor it who pay for it with their lives if any fuckery comes up.
There's two things to idealistic ideas - feasibility in a vacuum and feasibility in current times (i.e. with jews, crooks and niggers), for the latter as long as we can't trust every single actor who has influence on the integrity of the system (and we can not), the system is on a timer.
>>49248291
I got them with a cheap fake leather case from amazon, perfect for hiding it between PC hardware in plain sight. Once you have weapons, feel free to get a little pirate chest and role play a bit.

>> No.49248348

>>49248186
>You need to relentlessly weed out bad actors from the system though, with harsh punishments for fucking with money and alas - that's anti-semetic.

That is basically what a well designed block chain does, that is decentralised too.

>>49248235
Well BTC is in fact a ledger what you just described, tether is something different though it is a ERC20 token build on the Ethereum network, it is a company that "says" that it has a its tether is backed by a certain amount of dollars, which is a bit shakey yes.

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>>49248329
Also.

>> No.49248361

>>49248247
1s and 0s only work if you have steady electricity and internet
one day you ghost tokens could ghost you

>> No.49248362

>>49248351
>netherlands
they'll buy from Germany which in turn still buys from Russia. This is silly brownie point hunting at this point.

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>>49247407
Snap out of it anon

>> No.49248459

>>49248348
tether destabilizing will tank btc, genius.

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*Ode on Silver*

The Muses atop Mount Parnassus sing
Of silver, which is that splendorous thing.

>> No.49248633

>>49247596
Everything that goes into producing gold and silver is used up in the process other than the machinery. The only thing expended in producing meme-coins is the electricity (the fuel required to produce that electricity), and the labor.
>the steel that make up the racks and chassis.
If bitcoin shits the bed the steel can be repurposed.
>putting up the building that houses the miners
If bitcoin shits the bed the buildings can be repurposed.
The labor expended doesn't produce anything (other than digits on a screen) so if bitcoin shits the bed that labor was expended to produce nothing.

>> No.49248710

>>49248633
>The labor expended doesn't produce anything (other than digits on a screen) so if bitcoin shits the bed that labor was expended to produce nothing.
exactly. BTCtards must think repeatedly punching themselves in the dick is valuable because energy was expended. absolute retardation.

>> No.49248840

>>49248279
anon getting rid of the jooz won't solve much. it's the system that is the problem
>>49248328
>So what can you do with those bits on disk, chief? You gonna try to make a solar panel with that? lmfao. retard.
I can buy shit with them. mostly drugs, but also PMs of course. in reality I'm very conflicted when it comes to cryptocurrencies because they're immensely wasteful. but since I already have some from before I am perfectly happy using them to pad my income
the price of BTC, like all commodities, is intimately tied to its value. this value ultimately derives from the amount of social labour necessary to produce said commodity. this because most things we see around us is the result of concrete human labour
>>49248633
>The only thing expended in producing meme-coins is the electricity (the fuel required to produce that electricity), and the labor.
and the graphics cards and the power supplies and so on. it's very similar to all other industrial processes
>if bitcoin shits the bed that labor was expended to produce nothing
one might say the value failed to be realized in circulation. but again cryptocurrency is useful, among other things to buy drugs and to launder money. this almost surely guarantees that its price will never go to zero
here's an interesting question: we know that there are limits to how high the price of bitcoin can go due to the cost of mining. if price goes up then mining becomes more profitable, pushing the difficulty up and the cost of production up as well. is there also a lower limit to the price? well, the opposite situation should work too. if the price goes down then fewer people mine. this pushes the difficulty down until mining becomes profitably again
>>49248710
>muh mudpies
lib tier argument

>> No.49248909

>>49248840
>is there also a lower limit to the price?
No, the price can conceivably go to 0 because it has no value outside of people thinking it has value.

>> No.49248926

>>49247532
Interesting, had to look it up. Seems it's the international 15 biggies - Wieners, pandas, eagles, Britannias, etc. Anyway, looks like you got a great and rare score, and it's gorgeous.
And thanks for providing a nice shot of it.

>> No.49248983

>>49248909
>the price can conceivably go to 0
not as long as it remains useful it can't

>> No.49249003

>>49248459
Well you could also just explain that without being a sarcastic prick, also BTC will probably recover without tether

>> No.49249055

>>49248983
Whatever bitcoin does, is it impossible for another memecoin (or anything really) to do that same thing? If the answer is no, I'd like an explanation because I admittedly don't know much about bitcoin. If the answer is yes, bitcoin can very easily go to 0.

Not that I'm not interested in the subject btw, but I won't continue discussing memecoins in a thread about precious metals. If you want to take this to another thread I'm down.

>> No.49249092

>>49248840
>this value ultimately derives from the amount of social labour necessary to produce said commodity. this because most things we see around us is the result of concrete human labour
holy shit, it's like you're literally a pajeetbot speaking purely in buzzwords you don't understand.

>lib tier argument
and of course, you don't have a counterargument because I'm right.

>>49249003
>Well you could also just explain that without being a sarcastic prick
your feelings hurt, chief? Sorry I exposed your investment as a scam, don't cry to me about it tho.

>also BTC will probably recover without tether
he says based on absolutely no evidence or reasoning whatsoever

>> No.49249131

I'm not from USA nor Europe, where can I buy silver/gold with worldwide shipping?

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>>49247269
I like this for drama and inspiration. But don't read it as a defense of the labor theory of value. That doesn't fly.

>> No.49249152

>>49249055
>impossible
This should have been "possible" for my sentence to make sense.

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>>49247740
>Hoping for an alternative range of queens vices.

>> No.49249229

>>49248926
>Seems it's the international 15 biggies - Wieners, pandas, eagles, Britannias, etc.

Yeah i was thinking to myself does the CM even make that many coins at the one time, I found the collection it is apart of.

https://worldcoinssilver.com/canada_2013_the_15_fabulous_world_silver_coins_f15_privy_mark.htm

>> No.49249230

>>49249131
It would be nice to know what country… some places like India have different rules about bullion and precious metals.

>> No.49249244

Reposting question in >>49249145
to >>49246329

>> No.49249259

>>49249230
Brazil.

>> No.49249287

>>49248056
You can already wire money almost anywhere instantly. No reason you couldn't start wiring PMs tomorrow if Western Union wanted to provide the service. From there it could go online very easily. Ultimately, when world currencies adopt gold backing, electronic payments would look much like they do now. The difference would be that for every electronic digit there would be physical somewhere and you could redeem the digits for metal.

People seem to forget that international trade was based on PMs for most of human history.

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>>49246826

I hope all you guys had a great weekend! I went swimming and I'm sunburnt to hell now.

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>>49247819

What site requires a phone call?

>> No.49249431

>>49249055
>Whatever bitcoin does, is it impossible for another memecoin (or anything really) to do that same thing?
it's certainly possible, in which case the labour involved and therefore the value gets spread out over more coins. this already happens thanks to systems like nicehash
>bitcoin can very easily go to 0
no. it can certainly go quite low, but to go to $0.00 is a qualitatively very different scenario from one where the price goes to say $0.01
>If you want to take this to another thread I'm down
if you want to have a discussion about value theory then you should go to /lit/. they'll love it. be sure to mention Marx :^)
>>49249092
read a book

>> No.49249432

So what are you fellas doing with your self-directed IRAs? Do any of you own physical in your IRA or are you gambling with PSLV?

If anyone's gotten physical in their IRA, please educate me on how that works. Seems like a bitch and you don't even get to hold it, you gotta leave it with a custodian or something? Might as well buy PSLV at that point.

>> No.49249439

>>49249287
I do always love it when people say you can't transfer gold or silver over the internet. Well, if your currency is backed by gold and silver, it would be exactly the same as transferring fiat is now. Some people just can't come to that logical conclusion on their own.

>> No.49249448

>>49249431
imaging reading entire books on scamcoins and thinking you learned anything lmao. faggot.

>> No.49249479

>>49249259
https://bullionexchanges.com/find-dealers/brazil
Check these local dealers out. Buying online with international shipping is a last resort because it will cost a lot and potentially get lost (which is annoying, even with insurance).

>> No.49249571

>>49249092
>your feelings hurt, chief? Sorry I exposed your investment as a scam, don't cry to me about it tho.

Why can't you have a normal conversation without being butthurt and calling names, jeez. I own both PM's and crypto's, in fact they are my biggest allocation wise

>> No.49249632

>>49248840
There is another argument for crypto's if you hold your own coins, they are yours forever and if you don't share them with anyone they are lost too

>> No.49249666

>>49249571
>Why can't you have a normal conversation without being butthurt and calling names, jeez
says the guy crying about me being a "sarcastic prick" lol.

So why is BTC going to recover without tether, care to explain that or can you finally admit that you don't actually understand any of this and you're talking out of your ass?

>> No.49249670

>>49249287
So what is preventing people then again printing more fiat "wire money" then there is gold and silver in real? I think something like a blockchain would solve that

>> No.49249757

>>49249670
hey dummy, did you not read my post here: >>49248235
your reply literally just zero'd in on the word "blockchain" so I'm assuming you didn't understand it lol. Stop thinking purely in buzzwords, midwitbro. Go back and read what I wrote.

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Anybody ever go to a coin convention before? There's one in Orlando a month from now, thinking of setting aside my silver budget for the month and trying that out instead. It's close enough that I could go there and back on a single tank of gas.

>> No.49249808

>>49249666
Because it BTC doesn't need tether, why would it? Care to explain that

>> No.49249831

>>49249808
read this and commit it to memory, dumbass

https://marathon-mission.com/site/article-detail/relationship-between-blockchain-tether-and-bitcoin/

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>>49248361
>1s and 0s only work if you have steady electricity and internet
>one day you ghost tokens could ghost you
If we don't have steady electricity we are all fucked anon, including gold and silver holders

Might as well just say the only good investments are guns, moonshine, and cigs

>> No.49250016

>>49246997
How would this work for a bong anon?
Reluctant to put money down if I'm going to get slapped with VAT at customs.

>> No.49250141

>>49248329
Fucking frogs man

>>49247873
Cryptos can act as an intermediate.
In fact I'm surprised that there hasn't been a crypto explicitly designed around this purpose.

>>49248247
Blockchains with Gold and silver ounces acting as a a stablecoin?
Surely it's not hard to perform such a service for far less than physically shipping the physical gold and silver? It's less able to be spoofed with paper (i.e. fake) PMs

>> No.49250154

>>49249831
>In addition, there is speculation that unbacked Tether is being used to drive up the price of Bitcoin.
This is what I don't agree with and even in the article it says it is speculation, try again

>> No.49250199

>>49250141
>Blockchains with Gold and silver ounces acting as a a stablecoin?
fucking this, indeed this eliminates the spoofing

>> No.49250258

>>49250154
It makes sense.
Tether goes leveraged long on BTC, mints more USDT.
It cashes out the profits on BTC for USD, which it then uses to buy bonds and other financial instruments to say that their reserves are backed in USD.

It's why "tether FUD" was getting thrown around when news about Evergrande's $330b debt came out. Suspicion is that Tether bought a lot of Chinese junk bonds.

>> No.49250269
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This whole thread
>your physically and completely anonymous medium of exchange must have every transaction tracked on a public ledger

>> No.49250347

>>49250269
that is not what we are talking about, your private stack will remain private. We are talking about stopping the 1:250 real silver/ paper silver ratio, if you have a better idea I would like to hear it

>> No.49250353

>>49250141
>Cryptos can act as an intermediate.
Agree that could be valuable. But I would just use it at the point of transaction as opposed to holding it.

>>49250154
lol believe whatever you want, not my money. All I know is that tether is supposed to be stable but it's tanking and so is btc. Neither recovered during the latest market rally either. If you want to put more money into imaginary numbers, not my problem.

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>>49250258
It could happen yes, but I think market of crypto in general is a bit to small to really have an impact on the bonds and other financial instrument market. I think bonds are mainly bought by the money printer, but I could be wrong on this one though. Even to gold market cap is bigger lol

https://www.blueskycapitalmanagement.com/crypto-market-cap-evolution-and-comparison-to-traditional-asset-classes/

>> No.49250495

>>49250353
Tether is still 1 dollar, you mean UDT or Luna, yeah that one is dead
https://www.coingecko.com/nl/coins/tether

>> No.49250498

where's my bog

>> No.49250536

>>49250495
Check the market cap braniac, already fallen by $10B since the start of the month. How much more do I gotta spoonfeed you, bro? geez

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tether/

>> No.49250575

>>49250536
>tether is supposed to be stable but it's tanking
Be more clear then that you mean the market cap not the price

>> No.49250630
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Simple as.

>> No.49250631

>>49247685
>it's fungible
LMAO
XMR is the only crypto that is actually fungible. Even then, you're still counting on the developers not being pozzed faggots who will compromise with globohomo.

>> No.49250660

>>49250575
is that your best comeback to save your last ounce of pride? Get out of your shitty scam investment and stop shilling it all over the board as if you know anything.

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>>49250630
>pour lines

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>>49250631
>Even then, you're still counting on the developers not being pozzed faggots who will compromise with globohomo.
Yeah watch out with ETH on this one

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/authors/aya-miyaguchi

>> No.49250813

>>49250660
>I have no arguments the post

I am seriously not even trying to do that, I don't even have tether because I saw that is basically not backed by anything.

>> No.49250860

>>49250813
but you hold btc, you fucking retard. or did your goldfish memory already forget that btc is tied to tether

>> No.49250933

>>49250860
You are going in circles here, I made it very clear that I don't think the tether will affect the price of BTC that much, it will dump ofcourse, but it will survive and your arguments don't make any sense. So how would you solve the spoofing then of let say silver for example, you know the paper joke of 1:250, 1:500 etc.

>> No.49250942
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>>49250631
>XMR is the only crypto that is actually fungible
This is just not true, there's no secondary market for "purer" Bitcoin and any claims that individual coins have been tainted are always found to be bullshit

There is literally no reason to use XMR or Monero

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>>49250942
>There is literally no reason to use XMR or Monero

>> No.49251096

>>49250942
>This is just not true, there's no secondary market for "purer" Bitcoin and any claims that individual coins have been tainted are always found to be bullshit
Okay, tell that to the people who have had their BTC frozen and are unable to access it. Don't bother replying because it's obvious you're either retarded or a shill or both so I won't respond.

>> No.49251103
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>>49251016
What would you use it for?

>> No.49251177

>>49250933
ok retard, all of the data points towards the fact that tether is a scam and it's tanking btc, but continue to bury your head in the sand.

>So how would you solve the spoofing then of let say silver for example, you know the paper joke of 1:250, 1:500 etc.
for fuck's sake retard, I already quoted the post once. Go read it again you dumb nigger. You use a blockchain public ledger to verify the physical. Obviously your eyes glazed over when you read that because you've already proven you don't understand blockchain or anything about crypto/digital currency lol. Jeez you're the worst kind of midwit, at least other midwits don't run their stupid mouth like you do.

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>>49250009
>implying I and some anons /here/ dont invest in guns, moonshine and cigs

>> No.49251245

>>49249670
The problem we have today is that monetary fraud has been legalized. If you make fractional reserve banking, and all other paper scams, a capital offense with public executions, and are vigilant about it, it will cease to be a serious problem.

>> No.49251272

>>49251245
The problem with this solution is that the government is always going to bend the rules for their own purposes. Such is the nature of greed and human nature. The only way to stop this is with an immutable public ledger.

>> No.49251304

>>49249782
The closest I've been to a coin show is this giant ass flea market that has an indoor section where half of the booths indoors are boomers selling coins. Pretty mixed prices though.

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>>49250009
>including gold and silver holders
Can you elaborate on how gold and silver holders will be in any of the same kind of predicament as crypto kids in the absence of electricity?

>Might as well just say the only good investments are guns, moonshine, and cigs
Gotta throw land, seeds, and medical supplies at the least. Food and water storage/purification are also way up on that list.

>> No.49251318

>>49250009
Civilization existed for a very LONG time prior to electricity. That being said, I don't foresee any long-term loss of electricity in most of the world. So stock up on those Bored Monkey pictures.

>> No.49251332

>>49251177
>all of the data points
Show me, you quoted one article and that one even called it speculative

>retard
>dumb
>midwit

You used ad hominims to "prove" your point for social dominance on an anonymous bulgarian dog spinning forum, nobody cares. You don't even know the difference between USDT and UDT and used an excuse "muh I was talking about market cap".

In short, I win.

I was not even to try to "win" I was just trying to hear your view about it and your arguments + data backing your views, but you simply can't. I did not insult you even once and respected your intelligence to the whole conversation, while you keep throwing insults, I hope you are as shitty troll otherwise I have bad news for you mate.

>> No.49251350

>>49251103
We're heading for a future of CBDCs a total surveillance. XMR is anonymous and used by drug dealer and other criminals right now. Don't look down on them, soon we are all going to be criminals for wanting to make private transactions. Grey/black market is going to grow and with it Monero.

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>>49250774
GSM, I want MOAR but they are never in stock.

>> No.49251438

>>49251245
>and are vigilant about it
That is the problem I think, as soon you have "good times" due to these good policies, the cycle will repeat again and you will end up with paper games. So how do you prevent that? It has happend multiple times before e.g. French revolution, with the Chinese the Romans

>> No.49251449

>>49249782
I'll be going to that one myself. I don't expect to spend very much money, because if they're anything like gun shows everything will be sold by boomers at ludicrous prices. Even if I'm just walking around looking at a bunch of cool coins I'm sure it will be fun.

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>>49251350
I Don't know much about crypto at all I have never personally trusted it. That being said I do want to learn why/how they operate.
>XMR is anonymous and used by drug dealer and other criminals right now
So not unlike bitcoin before the govt started to want theirs?
>Grey/black market is going to grow
I can't say that isn't bad.
>with it Monero
But again how/why do you have so much faith in it that the gov't wont lock it down like they have with other cryptos?

>> No.49251496

>>49251474
>But again how/why do you have so much faith in it that the gov't wont lock it down like they have with other cryptos?

Yeah second to this, for example attack the on and off ramps and requiring KYC everywhere

>> No.49251516

Just finished reading through the thread and I had to double check that I wasn't in a crypto thread. There are like 50 threads on this board for crypto and you people still have to come to pmg to talk about it.

>> No.49251525

>>49251474
>So not unlike bitcoin before the govt started to want theirs?
NTA but XMR is quite different from BTC on a technical level. it has tumbling built in

>> No.49251537

>>49250141
Individuals would not need to physically ship gold or silver.

Anon's Payment Company offers instant around the world payments in gold, silver, or platinum. You want to buy another giant black dildo from your friend in Ukraine. You walk into the APC office, plunk down your thirty ounces of silver and say you want to send them to ID #xxxxxxx. APC officer says "one minute please . . ." types a few words on his computer. "Here's the password". He just sent a message to his partner in Ukraine saying Mr. dildo can pick up his silver anytime and giving a password. When Mr. Dildo goes to the APC office (home delivery would be just as easy) he gives the password and Partner gives him the silver from his own stock. At the end of the month, all of the offices around the world reconcile their accounts and make international deliveries if needed to restore balances. Voila!. Not hard.

>> No.49251569

>>49251304
Man a local gun show always has these boomers that sell bullion but the prices are absolutely retarded. They wanted $75 for a 2021 Brittania that wasn't milky, started at $85 for half-decent unslabbed Morgans (even commons like 1921) and minimum $45 for generics. Sucks because the coin shop I go to really doesn't have much for selection, rather just really good prices. Meanwhile these old fart had loads of great stuff but wanted the absolute top market value plus at least twenty percent.
>>49251449
Oh cool, so I might meet a /pmg/ chad if I go? Sweeeet. I might have to bring WAGMI in my pocket if I do go as a calling card.
Honestly I'm just looking to see if anybody is selling shitty condition 90% for cheap or if anybody has a 2009 proof set, I want those pennies. Some crazy fucker went around my city and bought up every single proof set all the pawn shops and coin shops had.
Otherwise I'm with you, I really want to see things like Sovereigns, gold roman coins and oddities in person. Even if I can't afford to buy much. I heard you can get something graded by NGC right at coin shows, how does that work? I don't really want to wait 3 months to have a single weird coin I have graded.

>> No.49251591
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WAGMI

>> No.49251596
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>>49250498
They've been given the green light for the rerun, will ask when the eta for that is

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>>49251516
Stop whining and post stacks then

>> No.49251607

>>49251438
Probably.

>> No.49251627

>>49251602
Somehow I doubt that will stop you people from talking about meme coins.

>> No.49251647

Kek, stop losing your time anon, just check SparkWorld

>It helps Gaming NFT projects distribute their NFTs to real people
>Fair Prediction Launches
>A more promising, engaging and fair way to whitelist peeps and distribute the NFTs.

>> No.49251649

>>49251332
>ad hominims
the fact that you don't realize why I'm laughing at you right now means you're a midwit. you're just not a very intelligent person and that's ok. but don't surprised when people like me dunk on you and your dumb buzzwords that you just repeated from some pajeet on YouTube. I wish you all the best investing your life savings into a scam like btc. Hopefully you'll learn your lesson once it crashes and you'll stop acting like such an arrogant little prick. When you actually know absolutely nothing lol.

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>>49251496
I can see the want for "decentralized" currency but at the same time I KNOW the Gov't are evil bastards that will pull every trick out of the hat to get what they think is theirs. Its harder to get in a firefight with some pm stacker than it is to have some nerd come up with a way to get what they want to wipe your accounts.

>>49251525
> it has tumbling built in
Can you actually explain this and how it works as well as how its 100% safe from some super nerd/gov't?

>> No.49251654

>>49251350
>We're heading for a future of CBDCs a total surveillance
Built by who a punch of pajet programmers? I know this is the future the current "elite" desire but I have my doubts it will actually happen.
These "people" are decadent and delusional.
When they go on and on about diversity, equity, and inclusion never forget this is what they really believe. Maybe a few generations ago this was just bullshit divide and conquer but now the managerial elite is filled with true believers.
The same believers who think they can solve energy problems with windmills and solar panels.
This civilization is heading toward the dustbin of history

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>>49251627

>> No.49251710
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>>49251627
dude don't start

>> No.49251716

>>49251569
>I might meet a /pmg/ chad if I go?
We should get subtle identifiers that indicate we're /pmgtards. Like a shoulder patch with just "/pmg", nothing else.

>> No.49251718
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>>49251096
>tell that to the people who have had their BTC frozen and are unable to access it
How do you freeze a fucking wallet address you retard

If they had it on an exchange, it wasn't theirs at all, it was the exchanges and all they "owned" were numbers on a screen

>> No.49251726
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49251726

I've always liked this coin but never planned on getting one. I found one for a decent price and pulled the trigger. Very hyped to see it in person. Finally part of the .99999 gang

>> No.49251749
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>>49251716
>/pmg
you mean /pmg/ right, fren

>> No.49251762

>>49251718
Indeed
If you have your own keys they can't take it unless you do something dumb and post your adress somewhere, but even then

>> No.49251766

>>49251652
>Can you actually explain this and how it works
just read the wikipedia page
>100% safe
it's probabilistically safe

>> No.49251793

>>49251726
Can someone mint this but the “not my problem” pouring oil down the drain

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>>49251726
Congrats!
I'm hoping that good price means it's not in the plastic card. I'm STILL undecided (two months later) whether to break this out or not to get a good photo. But 5 9s seems it could be very fragile, prone to scratches from anything, even cotton gloves. It looks like shit behind the plastic.

>> No.49251810

>>49250446
I'm not saying BTC is affecting bonds, I'm saying that bonds bought for backing stablecoins are affecting the crypto market.

Particularly USDT

>> No.49251812

>>49251596
rerun? sorry haven't checked in in a while.

>> No.49251817

>>49251569
That's the kind of shit I'd see too. But then there'd be some days where they'd be selling lower grade (but nowhere near cull) morgans and peace dollars for 16 dollars each. This was a few years ago though keep in mind.
I moved though and there's these boomers at a different flea market that I go to that always sell eagles for 40 bucks (even when silver was under 20 dollars an ounce) and have other retarded prices too. Idk why some boomers do that shit. 75 dollars for a mass produced britannia is fucking retarded.

>> No.49251820

>>49251766
That sounds like a load of speculation and trust.
>just read the wikipedia page
Please tell me you are joking....

>> No.49251825

>>49251766
>it's probabilistically safe
I have heard that a quantum computer could theoretically could crack the encryption

>> No.49251841

>>49251569
>>49251716
Definitely, wouldn't mind talking to some of you bros in real life. In regards to the NGC rating I'm not sure, I've never been to a coin show in Florida myself. Maybe I'll bring my heavily worn fondle Morgan just for the keks.

>> No.49251844

>>49251817
With respect to those boomers just wait until they die and buy it off their children for pennies on the dollar.

>> No.49251848

>>49251812
the first run had severe bumping on the face due to the edge marking being too wide and a bit misaligned. Sent them back and altered the edges so they're just the bars, getting a new run made

>> No.49251864

>>49251749
My keyboard's lazy.

>> No.49251888

>>49251716
Would we even need that much to find each other? We would probably be the only people under 40 that aren't going with a parent or spouting whatever dumb r/wallstreetsilver memespeak they use trying get attention. We could probably just make eye contact from across the hall, nod, and know that we met a brother.

>> No.49251900

>>49251820
I'm not going to spoonfeed you learns anon
>>49251825
>I have heard that a quantum computer could theoretically could crack the encryption
that's if quantum supremacy is possible. which I highly doubt. but yeah there's probably all sorts of theoretical hacks. I'd have to read up on ring signatures again to judge whether QS is a threat to the built-in mixing

>> No.49251909

>>49251817
>Idk why some boomers do that shit.
"I know what I have"

>> No.49251914

>>49251817
>Idk why some boomers do that shit.
If it's like gun shows, a lot of them do it to get out of the house and talk to people who enjoy the same hobby as them while displaying their own collection. I was talking with a boomer at the last gun show I attended and he said he's lost money in the long run on booth-fees (his prices were insane) and that he just does it to show off his collection in public.

>> No.49251939

>>49251888
Checked and probably true lol. I'll probably scribble pmg on the back of a hat in sharpie. If you see it just walk up to me and say some spergy shit, then I know we can chill.

>> No.49251973

>>49251914
>and that he just does it to show off his collection in public.

...

Boomers man

>> No.49252006

>>49251848
ah ok cool. glad you care about quality :)

>> No.49252007

>>49251888
>We could probably just make eye contact from across the hall, nod, and know that we met a brother.
Or acknowledged you're down for a gay date.

>> No.49252035

>>49251973
I don't see anything wrong with it if they're willing to spend the fees for the booth. If anything I encourage it because I get to see a bunch of cool guns that people don't intend to sell and I'd otherwise not get to see. Met a boomer at a gun show in South Carolina who I met up with later at the range and he let me shoot his pre-ban thompson.

>> No.49252063

>>49251900
>I'm not going to spoonfeed you learns anon
Ill fix it for you
>I don't fully understand myself but I'm going to stick to my point and die on this hill I don't fully understand.
>that's if quantum supremacy is possible. which I highly doubt.
Ill fix this too
>I really hope this new technology I don't understand doesn't work cause it will cause everything I've built up in my head to come crumbling down.

Your age/lack of maturity is really coming though. Try not acting like a petulant child throwing a tantrum because people are questioning your fragile beliefs/investments.

>> No.49252076

>>49252035
Want to share you love with others who have the same love is one thing but renting a booth to show off your collection seems a bit vain.

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>>49251716
>>49251939
https://www.coinshows-usa.com/Florida-United-Numismatists-Summer-FUN-Coin-Show
Man now this is sounding FUN like the name says. Hope I can make the trip happen.
>>49252007
Straight but I appreciate the attention. Thanks!

>> No.49252111

>>49252035
I see your point, I think it is good to build connections and to network, but renting a stand just to show of your collection? That goes a little bit to far in my opinion, to each its own I guess.

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not enough sovs for my liking tbqhwy

>> No.49252139

>>49252063
anon I work with physicists who among other things point out that while a quantum computer might theoretically do the computation you want, it is impossible to measure its output to the necessary accuracy. drift fucks you over. and while I haven't worked with quantum stuff I do have experience with drift, so I will trust them on that

>> No.49252161

>>49252076
Museums build entire buildings and have people on dedicated payroll to show of collections, and I love museums. Sure it may be a little vain for a private person to do it, but otherwise I wouldn't get to see those items. I don't care if showing off his guns gives him a rager, as long as I get to look at them.

>>49252083
If you make the trip I'll buy you a beer.

>> No.49252163

>>49252076
>>49252111
It might not all be vanity and moreso just wanting to talk about your coin autism and to get out of the house. I mean if we didn't have 4chan to sperg out about this stuff with who knows what we would be up to?

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Shiny shiny. Got some more Krugerrands on the way. Undecided on my next purchase. Gold, platinum, or a big sterling box?

>> No.49252196

>>49252163
Exactly. What is this thread usually other than people demanding you "post stack pics" lol.

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>>49252163
>I mean if we didn't have 4chan to sperg out about this stuff with who knows what we would be up to?
True to that

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SETF deleted again.

>> No.49252295

>>49252241
They tried so hard too. With that well to do housewife image.

>> No.49252297

>>49252196
Here the item is separated from the person the focus is on the object. At a booth in person I can see how the focus can easily move from guns to MY guns it becomes about the person and their collection not the collection itself.
its a subtle difference but i think its important

>> No.49252323

>>49252161
And private collectors often donate their collections to museums when they die. Don't know if you are into this kind of thing, but Jay Leno is using his fortune to basically rescue and restore hundreds of historically interesting automobiles and other machinery. His collection will certainly become a museum when he dies. I think it is a great thing for him to be doing with his time and money. It's a public service. Same goes for those who build top drawer collections of coins. By the way, you know that phrase "top drawer" comes from coin collecting?

>> No.49252324
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I really like this vaporwave coin

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>>49252139
>it is impossible to measure its output to the necessary accuracy
So not unlike most thing in history until it was possible? I don't doubt there are people that understand more than you or I but at the same time I don't think it will stagnate. Everything is impossible until it isn't and big brother has both means and want to make it happen.

>> No.49252378

>>49252297
>Here the item is separated from the person the focus is on the object
I see what you're saying, but that's not even true for this thread some times. Ever see people here demand you post pics of "your stack" to validate your opinion? I understand how it can be useful to wave away the shills, but I don't want to post pictures of my coins every time I want to say something, especially since I don't like taking pictures of my coins.

>> No.49252388
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>>49252241
I saw one deleted the other day at 100 posts in, they hate it lmao
>>49252199
I watch Youtube coin gradings and showcases to relax and my older brother is the only person that tolerates my coin shenanigans IRL. I'll often share them to him and explain what the makes the coin special. Other than that this is about the only outlet I get, nobody I know gives a shit about coins besides "oh my grandpa saved some buffalo nickels in a drawer for me". I showed a twenty year old guy a wheat penny i just found and it was the first time he ever saw one. I felt a little bad.

>> No.49252441

>>49252323
That sounds awesome and good on him for doing it. But renting a booth and losing money on it can also be viewed as a public service, if not moreso because they're losing money while they're still alive just to display their collection to the public (not all of them, or even a majority mind you). I've also never heard of the expression top drawer, but would have assumed it came from the expression top-shelf. Interesting stuff.

>> No.49252450

>>49252325
>So not unlike most thing in history until it was possible?
no anon. I mean literally impossible. drift always sets in, in every measurement we do. these are phenomena that start happening when you repeat the same measurement enough times. there's a limit to how much averaging you can do to improve any measurement. see among other things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_variance and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker_noise
TL;DR: 1/f noise fucks you over sooner or later

>> No.49252463

>>49252378
half of it is kikes trying to collect data on you. A stack doesn't have anything to do with your opinion, a stackposter spreading jew fud doesn't make it any more valid especially when half the stacks are reposted from WSS

>> No.49252504

>>49252463
That's partially why I don't like posting pictures. If you post the same stack pic repeatedly in threads, people will know who you are in new threads when you post those pics, linking you to your previous posts. I'm all about anonymity, and do my best to maintain that especially on the fucking internet.

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>>49252241
Many such cases.

>> No.49252548
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>>49252504
I post other peoples stack to confuse and disorient any would be data collection glowy, it serves to roles: to protect myself, but also to protect you guys.

>> No.49252588
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>>49252450
I'll look in to it thanks for the link. I still disagree and think that it can at some point happen. You do you though. Crypto isn't my game PM's are in the end spend your fiat however makes you happiest.

>> No.49252755
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>>49251914
>he just does it to show off his collection in public.
Poor boomer. I show mine off for free thanks to technology.
I guess we'd all be doing that shit too though if it weren't for /pmg/.
>>49251844
If they even sell it. They may just use grampa's old coins to buy shit at the gas station.
>>49251909
To give them credit often times you can talk them down and the high prices are just there because they like haggling. But then some boomers really are just assholes who don't wanna budge.

>> No.49252803

>>49252588
if it helps, I thought for a while that you could get around drift by trying to average different subsets of the quantum measurements and seeing which one "clicks". but doing that takes time exponential in the number of measurements, and you have to do it on a classical computer. you might maybe be able to use a quantum computer, but if I'm not mistaken it must be of a larger size than the original computer so you're no better off
it might be possible, maybe, that we can invent some magical quantum measuring device that does not experience drift, where we can digitize the signal immediately without first converting it to say a voltage that would be subject to drift. so far we know of no such device, at least that I'm aware of

>> No.49252828
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49252828

Anons, should I pay the idiot tax and scoop up a 2009 1/2 oz Gold Walking Liberty or just get a 1/2 oz Noah's Ark and some colorized silver coins?

>> No.49252909

>>49252755
I wish I had a nice box to store my metal in. I've been looking for a nice hardwood box at estate sales and antique stores but still haven't found one I'd want to work with. I did find this beautiful vintage italian music box that would have been an amazing metal chest if I had gutted it, but I didn't have the heart to do such a thing.

>> No.49253025

>>49252828
wtf is wrong with the angle on that U?

>> No.49253123

>>49252755
That is a nice chest anon

>> No.49253318

>>49251537
That's exactly the idea that I'm thinking of. There might need to be a gas fee or something to cover any shipments that are required to cover deficits.

Or maybe as a better idea, buying gold/silver bonds sold by mining companies in exchange for part of the stockpiles. It'd allow some of the accumulated gold and silver to be put to work and grow.

>> No.49253510
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>>49253123
Is it a chest or a box? I'm so confused.

>> No.49253634
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Disdain for crabs

>> No.49253770
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>>49253634

>> No.49253779

>>49253634
>>49253770
Noice

>> No.49254034
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>>49253634
>>49253770
What am I seeing here anon? Looks super cool.

>> No.49254078

>>49254034
Denarii of Caracalla

>> No.49254092
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49254092

Wagmi frenz

>> No.49254162
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>>49254078
Thanks fren. Looking into it. Love me ancient shiny.

>> No.49254184

>>49251474
>how/why do you have so much faith in it that the gov't wont lock it down like they have with other cryptos?
More ineffective against XMR than other crytos?
>>49251496
>Yeah second to this, for example attack the on and off ramps and requiring KYC everywhere
Atomic swaps? Localmonero?

I'm not going to get into a discussion with you guys because I know enough for myself but not in-depth about XMR, and I'm not trying to derail here by saying this...but why aren't you guys asking your questions on /XMR/ where there's people who know about it in-depth? It's pretty comfy in /XMR/ if not more so than /PMG/, so IDK why you wouldn't if you got questions.

>> No.49254208
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>>49253827

>> No.49254224

>>49254162
They are great for newbies. Nice diverse designs and pretty affordable in good condition

>> No.49254308
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49254308

Alright who is the jew that did this confess

>> No.49254408

>>49254308
Not me but I will put a standard Yotsuba coin on Ebay starting at $90 once I receive it.

>> No.49254552

>>49254078
>Caracalla
>Coins say Antoninus Pius

>> No.49254584

>>49254308
Wow. Starting to think I should have ordered 100 anime prospectors so I could pay off my mortgage by reselling for the obvious enormous and very wealthy market.

>> No.49254590

>>49249782
I will probably go as well, did not know this was going on, thanks for the tip fren. I'll definitely end up buying at least a few things even if it's a bit overpriced

>> No.49254610

>>49254308
im not going to say what i think the gilded ones should go for when they ship, but i will say that ebay has policy against presales if im remembering correctly

>> No.49254635

>>49254610
not a fan of gilded

>> No.49254670

>>49251848
>>49252006
>glad you care about quality :)
I'm going to second this, MintAnon. Despite the flak you took for the design, it's really commendable that you've taking it upon yourself to do strict QA/QC, and hold the mint accountable without us having to prompt you. I'm fine with the longer wait for the bogs, and looking forward for my APs, however long it takes. Just hopefully before spot moons to avoid complications.

>> No.49254755

>>49254670
Appreciate it! Can't go ruining my reputation too bad this early on! Fortunately I've been able to buy the blanks as the presales come in so I'm not too worried about the spot price. Definitely lost sleep back during Apu's crowdfunding

>> No.49254866

>>49254755
>Fortunately I've been able to buy the blanks as the presales come in so I'm not too worried about the spot price.
Sweet! I guess an advantage of no longer depending on Indiegogo.

>> No.49254971

>>49254866
Exactly, being able to get the money dispensed at whatever interval I want has been very helpful. Indiegogo took a 5% fee off the gross in addition they locked up 5% of gross for 6 months minimum to use for refunds

>> No.49255232

>>49254971
Any concerns of the mint inflating their prices if spot goes up, or are they contractually obligated already since you paid for the blanks already?

>> No.49255365

>>49255232
They could change the striking fees but they've provided a quote already. Probably wouldn't want to lose face by raising prices on me and risk pushing us out but never know. Either way I would fulfill whatever presales I take

>> No.49255438
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49255438

>>49254184
>I'm not going to get into a discussion with you guys because I know enough for myself but not in-depth about XMR, and I'm not trying to derail here by saying this...but why aren't you guys asking your questions on /XMR/ where there's people who know about it in-depth? It's pretty comfy in /XMR/ if not more so than /PMG/, so IDK why you wouldn't if you got questions.
Cause he came here and started talking about xrm not us...

>> No.49255523

>>49255438
Fair enough if that's what happened. I didn't follow the discussion chain all the way up to the beginning.

>> No.49255540

>>49254408
If Im unable to get one cheaper Ill buy it

>> No.49255543

>>49254552
Caracalla is a nickname

>> No.49255602
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49255602

Is there any real difference whether silver is 999 or 9999 pure if I want to use it to purify my drinking water/milk?

>> No.49255610

>>49255365
you still rolling with osborne or did shopping around get you anywhere?

>> No.49255617

>>49252241
The only way to get an SETF going is to post a negative silver post.

>> No.49255623
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>>49246826
Thoughts? I am mighty interested. If not what else? Be gentle ty

>> No.49255640

>>49255602
yeah 9999 will tarnish faster (which I guess is the desired result of purifying the liquid)

>> No.49255643
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>>49255602
No, Russians use .999 silver tokens and even .925 sterling accomplished the same forever in use

>> No.49255708

>>49255623
What are you stacking for? Financial collapse or just for fun because you like collecting coins? If it's the former, generics are the better buy right now. ASEs are way overpriced

>> No.49255766

when will society fucking collapse already?

>> No.49255884
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>>49255523
I was just trying to figure out why he was saying what he was. I don't like or trust crypto so I thought I might be able to learn but it was mostly just speculation/feelings so I stopped engaging.

>> No.49255900

>>49249479
Thanks a lot, anon.

>> No.49255957
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49255957

quick pic for the /pmg/ frens
New additions include Armenian Noah’s ark pieces and a generic 10 oz bar

>> No.49255974
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49255974

Silver is so unloved as an investment that even 5kg bars are out of stock until august. Really sick of the manipulation

>> No.49256049
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49256049

>>49252909
I wouldn't gut something like that either. This chest was a pretty good find at only 5 bucks but it needed some new screws put in. Probably why it was so cheap.
>>49253510
I think it's a chest but technically it is a jewelry box.
>>49253123
Thanks matey. I love me chests

>> No.49256076

>>49255957
Nice abon, very nice indeed, I need to get some of the Noahs Ark coins, I'm tired of all my coins having the Lizard Queen on them. Quality photo, this is why I come to /pmg/, the bants and the stacks

>> No.49256108

>>49256076
*anon, not abon. Unless you are an Abo, but since you are stacking silver and not beer cans I'm guessing you are not, kek

>> No.49256162

>>49252324
Woah nice where did you get it?

>> No.49256371
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49256371

>>49252909
>I wish I had a nice box to store my metal in.
Check out some cigar boxes on picclick anon. Mine are just cheapies, but there are some really nice ones out there.

>> No.49256606

Should I get a queens beast 2oz coin?

They look so nice but I only have 100oz so I feel like I should add weight before quality

>> No.49256921

>>49256606
If your Bong they got a little sale on Royal mint website at the min.

>> No.49256922

>>49246826
Gilded more like gaylded

>> No.49257662

>>49255610
Still Osborne

>> No.49257866
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49257866

Is the fag that questioned the authenticity of muh silber RM last week itt?
I promised i would post link to my dealer after i received my delivery.
Which should be hopefully by Wednesday.
If you itt, just bare with me 2 more days, until you can swallow your big words.
t. Reichsmark Anon

>> No.49258119
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>panman summon pls
Or anyone versed in geo lodged gold. Do these look like anything gold? Out of a tree hole in upstate NY

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>>49257866
>t. Reichsmark Anon

>> No.49258208

>>49258119
Looks like sandstone and quartz to me, but what the hell do I know?

>> No.49258297

>>49258208
More than me from the sounds of it.

>> No.49258301

>>49258189
https://youtu.be/isxvXITTLLY
Deus Vult

>> No.49258324

>>49258297
Hopefully PAN MAN checks in and verifies. I'm curious.

>> No.49258498
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>>49258301
>can't wait to here about you on the news

"The 12 year old shooter was a self proclaimed White Supremacist. Along with his confession letter, a number of aluminum coins were found, along with half a dozen of what can be best described as dragon dildos. His mother, a Ms. Shanequa Jones is still in a state of shock and claims her son was a "gooboy" and "dindu nuffin."

>> No.49258517

>>49258498
*hear

>> No.49258623

>>49258498
K so is is you. you are that miscarriage keyboard warrior. Kek, keep seething kike, you will never get RM at spot price, without my link.
Which I'm gonna give out only via email, and you will have to beg me for it.
Email to: ifuckedyourmomwhiletyronewaswatchin@gmail.com

>> No.49258668

uh bros? were getting absolutely smashed right now

>> No.49258789

How many mercury dimes should I have on hand to buy cheap stuff like bread?

One dime per loaf?

What do you guys think for a survival stack of junk silver?

>> No.49258856
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49258856

>>49258789
>What do you guys think for a survival stack of junk silver?
Not a bad idea. I plan on getting a couple rolls for the keks. If you want reasonable fractionals, try Golden State Mint. I just picked up 80x 1/4oz at a semi reasonable price.

>> No.49258992

>>49258789
I'm not too convinced of the value of junk silver. Apparently it's pretty difficult to purify out the non-silver so there's no real reason to think it's worth 90% of the spot price. I think 1oz silver rounds would do more for you.

>> No.49259040

>>49254308
>>49254610
Genuinely don't think I'd sell my Gilded for $2k even if the mint ends up making it a bit shit. That might be buyers remorse but I'd like to think the coin being a little shitty is part of the charm of buying an autismo coin from a taiwanese basket weaving forum.

>> No.49259053

>>49258324
You have to either say his name three times or post a picture of a gold nugget and he will appear.

>> No.49259120
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>>49259053
>say his name three times
done

>> No.49259152

>>49258992
Fair point the premiums are crazy right now too

>> No.49259171

>>49259152
>premiums are crazy right now too
Wait till November.

>> No.49259196

>>49259171
As in they’ll get much worse?

>> No.49259285

>>49259196
Yep. I wish I had saved an anon's post a while back. Something about previous cycles in the market and what follows. Made a lot of sense. But who knows nowadays, things are pretty fucky worldwide. Personally, I'm stacking like October may be the last month of reasonable prices concerning metals. Only time will tell.

>> No.49259309

>>49259285
Do you mean stuff related to inflation and food shortages?

>> No.49259378

>>49259309
No, it was in relation to housing prices and other things in the market. Can't remember exactly but he showed several previous cycles in which metals went up in "value". Also, money printer go brrr is enough for me to get rid of my fiat as soon as I get it. And I don't think we've even felt the worst of what that's going to bring.

>> No.49259410

>>49251793
kek

>> No.49259537

>>49255974
cheapest silver right now is the kilo nadir bar on monument metals

>> No.49259874

>>49258324
>Pan Man
He's probably panic buying as many pistols as he can right now

>> No.49260037

>>49259874
I know think he's got a few rifles for bears and such, but not sure if he has any handguns. I would personally deliver him one if they go through with the ban.

>> No.49260057

>>49260037
>know think
lol.

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>>49253634
>Disdain for crabs

Oi! U wut m8?

>> No.49260128

>>49260081
Crabs are so cool. Love to have a crab aquarium some day

>> No.49260626

Obviously we will go back on silver standard. XRP and linkies deserve nothing and BTC is fundamentally useless. Also peter schiff is always wrong so it cant be gold. XMR will just stay XMR simple as.

>> No.49260916
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>>49260037
>if they go through with the ban.
What ban? What happen?

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>>49251596
stay based champ

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>>49251596

>> No.49261346

>>49252388
>my older brother is the only person that tolerates my coin shenanigans IRL.
Kek same

>> No.49261649

>>49258119
>>49258146
ah... lets see. Where did you find it? Is the region your in well known to host gold?

It appears you have some quartzite with maybe some light colored amethyst but its difficult to tell by the pictures. It could host gold, but i am not seeing any major sulfides or other heavy elements right off the bat. If you want to check for yourself, crush a sample and pan it in a wash tub, this will show you any heavy elements present.

>> No.49261674
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49261674

>>49259874
yea i may or may not have ordered a number of firearms this evening... fuck i hate the Liberal party so much.

>> No.49261704

>>49260916
The Liberal party in Canada just tabled new regs that basically would permanently ban ownership of handguns and neuter / ban most long guns through magazine capacity. Its retarded, it wont stop gun crime but it make torontonians happy so it will get him elected again..

>> No.49261713

>>49261649
Bless your soul PM. In my backyard, I wouldn't know and don't think it's a know good bearing region. It used to be under a lake forever ago. I might give destruction and panning a go.

>> No.49261737
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49261737

>>49261713
try and split the sample in half, keep part intact and crush the other, thats what we do when sampling / assaying.

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>>49254610
but if I sell it I can't brag about it anymore

>> No.49262277

>>49252189
gold krugs all the way bby

>> No.49262292

>>49255957
based stack, Drams are kino

>> No.49262550
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49262550

>want to sort some coins away into smaller boxes
>think about smoking some cigars, but have no clue about them
>you can just order empty cases off eBay for not even 10€s

>> No.49262725

>>49261674
Yeah, and thats just them testing the waters for us burgers. Hope it all works out.
>>49262268
W I D E

>> No.49262786

>>49261674
>>49260037
So if this goes through we won't be able to buy handguns? What happens to everyone who already owns one?

>> No.49262792
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49262792

>>49262725
as comfy as stacking so I think it fits nicely

>> No.49262849

>>49262786
you wont be able to transfer them to anyone else. The new regs would halt all transfers from stores to new potential buyers, thats why everyone is panic buying right now.

>> No.49262862
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49262862

Cautionary note: I thought I just wasn't seeing right when I ordered this. All the other EC8 coins were very realistically sculpted (as much as one typically sees in Ag). This though really came looking like a sketch made in mud. I'm not impressed.

>> No.49262883

>>49262550
Lol I copied that ave maria cigar box anon and bought one on ebay literally 2 hours ago

>> No.49262958
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49262958

>>49262550
>>49262883
A couple of liquor/smoke shops around here sell the boxes for cheap, too. Problem with cigar boxes is, the wood's usually built for holding cigars, not dense metal. It's hard to find strong cigar boxes.
The next level is humidors. When bought new, the humidifier sponge holder is often supplied as an add-on so you can place it yourself. Just don't, if you're using it for PM.
Lastly are the custom artisan boxes like pic related. This particular guy cheaped out on the latch though, and it's annoying af. I'll have to swap that out.

>> No.49262972

>>49262862
Looks like the were attempting something like an expressionist painting, but you are right it hasn't worked at all
That's unfortunate

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>>49262958
nice chest

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>>49262958
I was mainly planning to use them for sets of certain coins but I'll watch out for that, didn't think about how light cigars are. I know wood can tarnish silver, then again I plan to use them on old coins anyways so if anything I can sell them higher as "nice patina" later in life

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>>49246826
DME Niggerbug could be stealing GV's gold stacks and then raping dani if he wasn't such a fag cuck.

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>eCelebs
c'mon now, jews. as if we care what some r*ddit checkmarknigger thinks or does.

>> No.49263333

>>49262849
I hated the gun grabbing tendencies of the western demoncracies before this whole Covid-19 plandemic/apocalypse started. Now things have accelerated to a whole new level of mentally retarded absurdity.

>> No.49263346

>>49263333
checked, you WILL kill a politician in your lifetime and it WILL be rewarded with a medal

>> No.49263454

>>49263333
checked!
Unfortunately with Trudeau, there often isnt really an ulterior motive, hes an arrogant prick who thinks hes better than most of the population, at worst hes a lacky of big telecoms and the Davos crowd. The really worrying people are the ones giving him orders.

Trudeau thinks that we dont deserve guns, while his own family are all well known for any number of blunders with them.

>> No.49263486

>>49253510
Personally I like chest and box

>> No.49263611

>>49263454
Justin Castro is just a figurehead that brainwashed fluoride recipients imagine runs the show in Canada. I literally think at this stage the "New World Order" types at Davos are pushing society to 'sort out' the useless eaters and begin the most grotesque cullings after the guns are restricted.

Those who are foolish enough to go along with it all will perish by thier own ignorance and unwillingness to resist tyranny. Maybe in the end the meek shall truely inherit the earth.

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>>49263239
There are a couple ways to mitigate the tarnishing. One way would be to create an inset box of cardboard and glue/tack a liner of anti-tarnish cloth on that. pic related. Then it's easy to toss the cloth every few years for a new liner. Be sure to line the inside of the top, too.

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>>49246935
>(((digigold)))
Perfidious albion knows no bound when it comes to steal wealth. I hope zoomies wont fall for their tricks and get themselves the real deal instead

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>>49263611

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new anteater just dropped

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Oh I nearly forgot, have some pics from todays test hole. Same spot as yesterday but about another meter down. The yellow material is called tertiary channel, ancient river bed now long turned to cement by decaying sulfides in the gravel. Its nearly impossible to bust through with and tools, it may be several meters thick. Tertiary channel in this region means pay dirt should be below this, or below a layer of bright blue clay after this. Time to get the breaker bar out tomorrow!

>> No.49264082

>>49264078
>>49264078
>>49264078
new thread

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>>49260081
Those are some fine crabs fren