/biz/ - Business & Finance

nah thats just a commie wetdream

in historical scope the us is still young and has hit the scene with explosive preformance. britains empire lasted like 500 years and id wager us has at least that long putting the collapse around 2300a.d.

>>49227682
U N I T E or D I E.
There is no split.
Preserve the Union; put the traitors' heads on pikes.

>>49227744
You activated the Afghanistan curse mate
you have 10-20 years left tops

there will be no collapse, only a gradual decline. and it hasn't even started yet.

Cringe and dopamine-addicted doomerposting just to try to feel alive

>>49227682
i fucking hope not

>>49227744
>nah thats just a commie wetdream
>in historical scope the us is still young
>putting the collapse around 2300a.d.
Holy shit, this is platinum grade American copium. Collapse later this decade. The Great Satan will be defeated. Amen.

>>49227682
Social Security was going broke by 2028 before medicaid (broke) got rolled into Social Security.

Now it's just scheduled for "soon". 2030 is hilariously optimistic.

>>49227785
We created afghanistan after ww1

>>49227682
I hope so.

>>49227682
I hope chainlink moons before then.

>>49227744
That is reality boy. You can't have a #1 super-power with a population of 70 iq obese Mexicans and Negroes. That is a slave population, not a creator/leader population.

>>49227744
Death to America.

Why does this board suddenly love David Hunter? Have his predictions in the past been right?

>>49228233
What is she thinking?

>>49227682
>there will be no gubmint!!
There will always be a government because there will always be groups of people who want to take control of a nation state, no matter how poor or broken it might be. You think the Taliban know how to manage a fucking country or economy?

>>49228337
Tribalism is the natural form of collective organisation

>>49227682

You're gonna see motherfuckers walking around without shoes.

>>49227682
Will some parts of US look and function like sub Saharan Africa ? At this rate it's very likely, and some people will argue that it's almost the case in some cities. Does it mean the whole country and every states will become Africa tier ? Certainly not.

>>49227789
>only a gradual decline. and it hasn't even started yet.
You're right that the decline is gradual when measured against a human lifespan, but you're wrong because it started a long time ago.

In retrospect the collapse of empires seems obvious. Historians condense a constellation of decades of compounding factors down to an easily digested list of major events knitted together by a handful of charts of definitely-super-important statistics and proudly assert that next time will be different. These declines seem to proceed at a snails pace until there is truly nothing more to give and the end is announced in one dramatic event. It's like drinking from a large keg that you can't see inside: everything seems fine until suddenly and without warning the wine stops flowing.

From the perspective of someone living through the decline, there is a seemingly perpetual sense that things are getting worse instead of better, but maybe if we just get the right people in power, or just focus on the right industry, or develop the right technologies, or unify a culture, that things can be set straight. Yet the overall health of the empire degrades a barely perceptible 1 or 2 percent per year, seemingly inconsequential or at least mendable at the time, but the degredation compounds year after year after year until eventually the empire can hardly be called even a shadow of its former self.

The Roman empire was in decline for over a hundred years before it could be said that it had collapsed. The Soviet Union legally dissolved in 1991, but even for such a short lived empire the stagnation and then decline could be said to have started fifty years earlier. The United States has similarly been stagnating and subsequently in decline since at least the 1960s - certainly long prior to the technical default against the gold standard in 1971 - and the fact that global technological advancements have given the illusion of progress does not refute that fact.

>>49228233
can someone make a fat sergey out of this?

>>49228233
The yoo-ess is literally too big. It needs to split up.

>>49230828
Insightful post

>>49227682
>2030
it already collapsed

2nd Coming of The Lord

>>49228233
>population of 70 iq obese Mexicans and Negroes
this is unironically the fault of the white men in charge, they want to maintain the population fat and stupid so they can exploit them selling them useless consumerist junk and trash food

>>49232637
>shit education
>shit food
>shit relationships with women
>shit communities
this is what the white men at the top give us

>>49227744
Glowie or Mongoloid spotted. Keep telling yourself that.

>>49227682
>2030s

Try within the next couple of years.

>>49227744
>Outsource everything to Jews and Asia
>Asia makes everything
>Jews get ready to jump ship for Asia
>AMERICA NUMBA 1!

You have 25 years tops.

>>49230828

>>49232637
>>49232645
you mean the kikes?
makes sense why illegal immigration is literally the absolutely lowest priority for the politicians. There needs to be a constant supply of new meat for the system, every person they bring in is a pile of money which will eventually indirectly end up in their pockets.

>>49227682
People have been saying this is the end since the 70s.
>but this time is differen!
just like every other time. The only reason I see the central banking cartel at risk is if the defi shit continues to grow and replace legacy finance systems. No wonder you have puppets like Warren trying like mad to limit its growth. The reality is that the banking cartel doesn't really se e it as a threat still so nobody really gives a shit. All the old dinosaurs don't care because they'll be rich and retired by then (supposedly).

>>49232645
>this is what the white men at the top give us
curiously has dual citizen ship in Israel and U.S.

>>49227744
Everything is sped up by orders of magnitude courtesy of the instantaneous communications and global payment infrastructure. It's why British empire was a tenth of Roman Empire and why we will be even less

>2030s

Agree. Fed will pump this market to unimaginable levels before the call it quits, The Nasdaq and SPX are basically down -50% from 2001 high if you adjust to inflation, No chance this is the actual endgame (We can dump further tho)

>>49227744
>explosive performance
>life expectancy falling

>>49229489
Most Americans cities are already basically mulatto central when it comes to under 20s.
The future of both US and Europe is a negrified permanently decayed wasteland similar to Africa.
White women lust too much after dick and aggression.
It's basically a race to see if the technocratic dream can be achieved (at which point women will no longer be needed) or whether r-selected groups will exterminate all of civilization.

>>49228162
>what is the graveyard of empires

>>49228162
You created an abstract concept that means nothing. If you invade Afghanistan your empire gets rekt

>>49227682
I'm a white man. I short altcoins to pay the rent for my one bedroom apartment.

>>49230828
>there is a seemingly perpetual sense that things are getting worse instead of better
fuck, that hit too close to home

>>49234430
They actually are (for most people). The middle class is going to be abandoned almost entirely. America/the west will become a giant min-maxed monstrosity of poor retarded masses and a genius wealthy elite.
If that elite can't solve the woman problem though, they will eventually also be absorbed into the retarded mass as women ruin empires/clans as they think with their vagina and feelings and lust.

>>49233955
Were having quite a turnaround in Europe.
The coming holodomor will be decisive.
But so far it seems it's all coming back to nazism.
Our president gave in memoriam medals to former nazis. And after liberal chimpout, the only answer was, sry bro can't take it back now.
Last week the pres. went to some sort of Heydrich memorial tribute in Prague

>>49233955
>White women lust too much after dick and aggression.
White women are the least likely race to date outside or procreate with another race. Get off the internet, retard

>>49234528
Yea that's basically the only way for midwits to survive (and it's a good thing). But unfortunately the global elite wants to rape everything from the middle class of existing countries and they are just a lot more competent and organized and vicious (low morality, high psychopathy). Combine that with unlimited foreign barbarian hordes and it's gg.
Make as much money as you can and focus on technology imo.

>>49228233
The only demographic above replacement rate in the US are whites who self identify as conservative. Immigration from Mexico has been negative for a decade because Mexico is industrializing now. The illegals now come from South America but mostly settle in the southwest specifically California. On the fundamentals the US occupies the best land in the world with the most arable land, massive reserves of resources, the most navigable rivers and no enemies within strike distance. The US/Canada/Mexico are also industrizling/reindustrizling at a high rate because Chinese costs have increased by 1,200%. When you factor in transportation and wages it is now often cheaper to produce in NA.

>>49227682
US has a younger population and comparatively better energy security. It is all about who collapses first and it won't be the USA.

>>49227744
yea, your brimming population of obese mongrels are going to turn things around for sure

Globalism will take over before 2030. America falls before then.
Everytime a white guy kills a black guy the whole nearly goes into a civil war.

>>49228288
Because he predicts a final parabolic rise in asset prices before a collapse. /biz/ still hasn't made it so they want a final massive rally to make it then to sell and move to the countryside.

>>49235523
197,277,789 whites (non-hispanic) vs 56,510,571 hispanics, a significant proportion of which (but not most) are white Spaniards. if we include the spaniards, we come to 234,370,202 whites or ~74% of the population.
but that statistic is misleading.
The vast VAST majority of the non-white, non-hispanic white mestizo population lives on the US-mexican border or in the Californian mega cities. when you vist these places it is easy to come to the conclusion that the US is turning into mexico but that is just not the case.
away from the southern border the United states is extremely white, into the high 90 percentiles.
most cities can claim to be majority minority true, but that is because the minorites live in the inner city while the whites live in the suburbs, which are often out side of city limits and not county towards the cities' population.

>>49234528
ye, it's crazy. open support for ukr nazis, for BANDERA, lmao.
i guess it never went away, but was merely hiding like a snake and waiting for a moment to strike, that's where the Russia hatred is coming from. i'd love for eu to be glassed by our nukes, some poetic justice.
nazi niggers can't sleep knowing Russia exists and has all these natural resources.

I always remember a porn clip of August Ames (rip) fucking a guy in a bathroom at some random bar where there's a graffiti in the toilet wall that says "America is an empire in decline".

>>49228233
poor fella

>>49235866
I have an easy solution for you....
stop being a fucking nigger and consider killing yourself :)

>>49227682
Good. No support systems mean me and my people in the rural Rocky Mountains can just tell everyone to fuck off as we live in peace, trading our crops and livestock.

>>49232637
That’s a funny way of saying Jews.

>>49234128
A complete myth honestly. Hundreds of empires have successfully defeated Afghanistan, and incorporated it into their state, dating as far back as the Achaemenids. Hell even Britain made Afghanistan a client state after their wars.

>>49234143
See >>49237332

>>49227744
Real cope, most other countries hate Americans you're the /pol/ of the globe and you should all rope.

>>49235800
> 197,277,789 whites (non-hispanic)
The average age of which is over 40
>a significant proportion of which (but not most) are white Spaniards.
Complete horseshit and genetic studies prove this
>away from the southern border the United states is extremely white, into the high 90 percentiles.
Also complete horseshit
Dumb neocon

>>49230828
Peter Thiel and sovereign individual enjoyer

>>49227682
2030s? what about right now?

>>49235621
>>49228288
If he's right about the melt up, will you guys become preppers going into the '30s?

>>49227744
all these ass blasted thirdworlders KEK

>>49228233
since when in history have slaves been obese

>>49236142
you really are evil. karmic debts are forever, don't forget that.

>>49227682

nah Dave is just unbelievably based and he hates dirty commie fucks. He sees kids these days are too into communism and might ruin all of the United States at some point in the future. He will probably be wrong because the US won't become communist or lose to dirty commies in China.

>>49227682
Nothing ever happens.

>>49227682
Great Depression in 1930’s, I wouldn’t be surprised to see another in the 2030’s

>>49238104
It is not a political ideology that will ruin a country.

>>49232637
Yes, (((white men)))

>>49233955
>White women lust too much after dick and aggression.
Jesus christ stop browsing /pol/ too much you fucking moron

>>49234485
I think you might be a little bit pornsick.
Stop watching porn, this is financial advice.

>>49227682
fear sells

maybe it will happen, maybe it won't. Collapse fantasies are just escapism for people who can't or won't make it

>>49238182

% white?

>>49227744
This. America will thrive for 1000 years or more. Maybe forever if we conquer space first.

>>49228033
They can just rugpull post-boomers out of their social security.

Its literally just a self imposed financial promise from the US government's point of view. A promise they don't really have to keep if push comes to shove. They will likely increase the retirement age to 75 to reduce the load.

>>49228337
>You think the Taliban know how to manage a fucking country or economy?
They are no less qualified than the puppets who ruled before them. There is also no expectation that Afghanistan will become a developed nation any time soon (Taliban or not)

Plus any government that gives women rights is illegitimate

>>49232786
>>49233194
WASPs are far more responsible for the current predicament of America than Jews. Jews didn't create the system, they just game it for all its worth

>>49234591
White women fuck white men because white men are more likely to be tall Chads, not because of any race loyalty. Same reason why non-white women whore it up for tall white guys

>>49227744
You're wrong, USA will collapse, China will take power and then my real life can begin.

>>49237332
more like as empires decline they decide to take afghanistan since it looks like a low risk (impoverished backwater) high reward (nexus between China, India, and the Middle East) endevour. Then they spend their declining pool of resources to conquer and hold Afghanistan.

>>49234879
Thanks Peter Zeihan, very cool but this is the non-American copium thread.

>>49227682
Perfect just in time for me to retire.. awesome

>>49230828
>>49237510

Rome stopped producing actual innovations long before the period of collapse mentioned in your post. America's ability to come up with new shit has only increased in the aforementioned period.

>>49228303
>"Oh Dios mío. Que puto gordo de mierda"

>>49227682
Economists can't even agree how money is created. Who knows what will happen. Maybe something like the bail out of New York.
https://youtu.be/dRaE_5te0iA

>>49238967
>Economists can't even agree how money is created.
Yeah what the fuck is with that? I got in an irl argument with an economist about how money is created and I started to wonder if it was me that was wrong until he revealed he didn't know what fractional reserve lending was. That was like five years ago and since then I've run into that scenario multiple times with other financial experts. No one understands it.

>>49238484
Again this is completely false. The Persian empires (Achaemenid, Parthian, and Sassanian) all conquered Afghanistan early on. Nothing about Alexander’s conquest of Bactria was indicative of a “decline”, and the Mauryans took it from the Seleucids at their height. The Arabs conquered Afghanistan at a high point of the Umayyad caliphate. The various Turco-Persian, and Turco-Mongolic states all took Afghanistan easily, and early. You don’t know what you’re talking about, and this horseshit about “the graveyard of empires” has no basis in history.

>>49237464
that map is incorrect lmao. my county is yellow on that map but is 99% white. we have about 100 blacks and that is about it.

>>49227848
you don't understand america

you don't understand farming

you don't understand jackshit about geography

>>49228233
we don't even have to be number 1

but you're forgetting that the welfare system collapsing is a good thing

honestly where is the competition

>>49234598
>focus on technology imo.
What does focusing on technology mean? Investing in it?

>>49238182
completely irrelevant

>>49227682
i hope the financial system collapses. i'm tired of going to work. i want to live in a post apocalyptic world where i hunt and gather and rape blonde whores like a savage

>>49239383
never going to happen for you, only chad will get them

>>49227744
The British Empire conquered technologically backward countries and empty land, the only exceptional land they took was Gibraltar from the Spanish (a dying empire that even America could beat up).

The British Empire didn't have a post developed consumerist society with the internet, cars, or nukes. Nor were they multicultural (yet)

Demographics are destiny, and unfortunately America's destiny is post USSR Russia with maybe a mercy kill from a new rising power (not China or Russia)

>>49239524
who the fuck is going to be the "rising power"

rome lasted far longer with far worse demographics

I'm optimistic if the oh no demographics get worse, that means the end of the welfare state because it's impossible to hold up, then we're back to trail of tears and segregation, possibly slavery

>>49239524
>America's destiny is post USSR Russia
there is literally too much shiny rocks and black dirt in America for this to be possible.
like it or not whatever state occupies the US's current land WILL be successful. its a literal garden of Eden. second only to Africa in raw resources.

>>49239591
>who the fuck is going to be the "rising power"
no one at all. there is no current power that can replace the USA. not even china despite their online puffing. 500 million Chinese will die of old age by 2050 because the retarded fuckers have been over counting their young population by at least a 100 million. they've admitted this because it went from a small problem to paper over to own the west to a "oh fuck we are going to run out of workers" problem. but its too late.

>>49227682

Nah, White Republican America will die and be replaced by a new government to reflect changing demographics and modernized of an antiquated Constitutional system.

In ten years we will have serious electoral debates about abolishing the old constitution written by slaveholders and drawing up a new one.

By 2045 it will actually happen.

New America will be more authoritarian, highly regulated, and rich in high tech creature comforts for those who serve the new system.

You will need to be an accredited investor with $3m net to own individual shares of stocks. Crypto speculation will basically be illegal.

>>49239591
>rising power
Indonesia

>rome lasted far longer with far worse demographics

Rome wasn't flooded with internet and televised racial propaganda. Or massive information campaigns

>I'm optimistic if the oh no demographics get worse, that means the end of the welfare state because it's impossible to hold up, then we're back to trail of tears and segregation, possibly slavery

What would unite Americans with the welfare state dying? Boomers and jews will keep piting young people against each other under cuckservativism and liberal nigger worship. Best case the country fractures into regional powers, worst case we continue to decay

>>49239825
>Rome wasn't flooded with internet and televised racial propaganda. Or massive information campaigns

literally irrelevant

>What would unite Americans with the welfare state dying? Boomers and jews will keep piting young people against each other under cuckservativism and liberal nigger worship. Best case the country fractures into regional powers, worst case we continue to decay

boomers and jews die like anything else, I never said there wouldn't be war and bloodshed, I'm just saying we'll win, and it won't be too difficult, just a repeat of what we've already done in america

>>49239867
>literally irrelevant
You're literally retarded if you think propaganda isn't relevant

>>49239896
>le tv
>le websites

just change the channel or go outside

>>49227744
I think it shows a bit of a fundamental misunderstanding of societies and their constituent structures. If you view Pax Americana through the lens of it being an empire then yes theoretically there could be a couple hundred more years and indeed the USA does have the capacity to extend its reign.

However, a republic can not be a proper empire because a republic is nothing more than a buffet line serving it's citizens. It's the apocryphal democracy that votes itself shares of its own treasury... Until the treasury ran low, then for a long long time after that through ever increasingly abstract financial tools allowing non-real moneys to take the place of real value and creation.

As Hobbes was poorly trying to demonstrate in Leviathan we can't really have a social contract with ourselves ourselves through the construct of 'government' because it doesn't create the necessary incentive structures to ensure long-term prosperity. There needs to be a literal personification in the state, most obviously the Sovereign, who has the necessary long term investment in the success of the state that goes beyond the immediate material needs of the citizen class. If your grandchild is going to be the ruler, all of your decisions and all of your priorities are to create the strongest possible society with the best quality of life, with a happy and satisfied population. If you leave everything to citizens all questions of civic duty will ultimately be subverted by the creation of constructs that allow us to mortgage our future. Give us a little today and we'll pay back a lot tomorrow - and also lie to use about it so it sounds good. Grains of sand do create a pile and so of course one day there will be nothing left for the society. No jobs, empty grocers, and broken roads.

In short order when the American 'Empire' ends we will relearn what we knew for hundreds of years before enlightenment social-theory positivism, a nation is more than a geographical region

>>49240043
first off america doesn't need to be an empire to last another 300 years or more

it just happens to be an empire anyways

I don't see how it gets any worse for americans in america

>>49240414
wow posting meme images

https://youtu.be/_JgedoGXyQk

>>49230828
>From the perspective of someone living through the decline, there is a seemingly perpetual sense that things are getting worse instead of better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cQOej9nuho

>>49240414
>hypersonic missile

>>49239044
>>49239044
Economics is for stupid people for most part. Only a handful because the types that seem to just invent new things on the fly like the federal reserve or how it works. Unironically the best bet to understand it is to try to work for Goldman Sachs and Jp morgan. They know how it all works and how to abuse it better than anyone in academia or gov.

I hope so. God I hope so.

>>49240079
>first off america doesn't need to be an empire to last another 300 years or more
It absolutely does. You have zero clue how the Eurodollar system works.
I'll make it easy, the US is over within the decade.

>>49239805
Nice LARP faggot

>>49232637
Who is behind the Hart Celler act of 1965?

>>49241311
the us doesn't need the eurodollar system, we'll survive no matter what

>>49235621
Literally just this, the permabull drooling retards are only aware of the first part of his prediction which is a pump to 6000 S&P500, his next prediction is an 80% crash which is more bearish than the vast majority of bobos.
The problem is if we did see 6000 S&P, and whatever retarded number the NASDAQ and BTC would be at in that situation, the retarded /biz/ bulls still wouldn't sell. They would be calling for 10,000 S&P at that point, and end up bagholding down to nothing either way.

>>49237828
No because his crash prediction is far more delusional than his pump prediction, 6000 S&P is only 44% up. -80% on the S&P is doomer goldbug schizo bearish, and would never come close to happening unless the Fed couldn't stop the bleeding.

>>49241362
Be honest, have you had an open short at any point this weekend?

>>49241395
No, I'm going to short in June though. Fairly confident the end of May pump is just a bulltrap to keep retail in and bullish.

>>49241392
>unless the Fed couldn't stop the bleeding.
I think this is tantamount to claiming that there will never be a significant crash.

>>49232637
>the white men in charge
Whites haven't been in charge of the US since at least the sixties.

President Nixon is on record complaining that Jewish media bosses were running the country into the ground, and he was unable to stop it because they could easily destroy him.

>>49227682
Anything that causes the welfare state to fail will cause niggers to destroy the country. It will be like a slow nuclear bomb going off in every major city.

>>49242140
the country isn't that fragile, problem is being dealt with kid gloves at the moment

>>49238248
>>49234591
White women are the least loyal group of females as they heavily gravitate towards popularity (music/sports/power). They love exoticism and are highly individual people without any in group preference.
All it took was like 10 years of propaganda to turn most north american states into mulatto breeding grounds.

>>49241359
>I don't need a money system I'll be fine
Yeah okay. Everyone says that before they really get taught a history lesson.

>>49243002
>according to my demented cuckold fetish this is true now

>>49243055
many civilizations have functioned without the united states dollar

infact the united states has for periods of time

>>49228303

Yeah shes thinking we are back.

>>49239867
>literally irrelevant
low IQ nigger spoted

>>49239131
Delusion

>>49243376
cnn and other dogshit liberal shows have some of the lowest viewership in their history

literally just change the channel or website

propaganda has never been easier to avoid

you're a fucking moron and it isn't 1940 anymore

kill yourself immediately

>>49227682
finally owning nothing.

>>49238443
>CHYNA GROW LARGER
They've got an ongoing slow-mo demographic collapse, combined with 100s of billions of $ worth of bad debt in one company ALONE tells you about their chances of being a superpower

A world power maybe, but not the one and only.

>>49227744
>in historical scope the us is still young and has hit the scene with explosive preformance.
Yeah alright cleetus

>>49243396
propaganda is being thrown at you from everywhere: news papers, tv channels, advertisements, billboards, social media etc. 99.9% of population are exposed to propaganda most of their waking time. Go outside retard, I'm sure there's Ukraine flags hanging around in your city too. Do you even realized the scope of the psyop you're being thrown into?

>>49243210
Literally go outside in any major metro city lol.

>>49243449
>propaganda is being thrown at you from everywhere: news papers
nobody reads those
>tv channels
nobody watches those
>advertisements
adblock, dvr
>billboards
you live in a city you're subhuman
>social media
not really
>etc. 99.9% of population are exposed to propaganda most of their waking time.
no
>Go outside retard, I'm sure there's Ukraine flags hanging around in your city too.
indeed you live in a city and you're gay but I do not
>Do you even realized the scope of the psyop you're being thrown into?
I just change the channel, sounds like you live in a shithole though, I don't

>>49243453
literally go outside in any african, south american or asian city as a white man

>>49227682
There were a few economists that were predicting this way before covid even happened; debt, bubbles, demographic declines, etc are all unsustainable.

>>49243500
delusional: the post

>>49243550
you're a dumbass boomer

we aren't in 1940 anymore

>>49243517
Yes all women are whores for foreign dick but white women are in particular bad because they only downgrade for fun. At least poverty spics are in it for money and not single motherhood.

>>49243576
the numbers don't add up paco

>>49239591
>who the fuck is going to be the "rising power"
I’m not kidding about this: either some blockchain magnate or YouTuber who basically creates an army or functional nation state

>>49243631
that's more plausible than any other option imo

>>49239913
The sheeple dont realise that. They just suck up the propaganda

>>49243500
Holy shit, you’re retarded.

>>49227682
>we will see
The USA has already collapsed. We are just going through the motions as good times becomes harder and harder and harder.

One day you will go to the store and there simply will be no food. Then you will try to figure out why shipments are being pirated. Then you will look to the government for a timeline and they will simply say "we are fixing things SOON TM"

>>49243576
let's go through this and why it makes no sense

1. women all over the world, import sperm basically exclusively 99 percent from white men

the dick doesn't even equate into it, we're just superior on every level, it isn't even sexual at that point, it's basically a surefire downgrade to have a child and not get the father with it and not even through a sexual encounter where there is hope that he might stay but everywhere on every corner of the earth women are willing to do it with white sperm

regardless of the consequences white sperm is the most important resource on earth

there are no women willing to import nigger sperm, there are no women importing asian or latin american sperm

basically the white man with 0 investment other than making her a single mom guaranteed is preferred over any other option

let that sink in for a second

>>49243760
those people are going to die soon, either from old age, bad planning, or unforeseen consequences

>>49243768
you're living in the 1940s before the internet was invented

>>49227744
>in historical scope the us is still young
What a waste of triple dubs to spout something so factually incorrect. The time of collapse is typically right around now, 250~ years and change.

>>49243833
rome didn't have the same advantages we had and rome lasted what 1000 years or so

>>49227682
Nope. McDonalds still has a dollar menu.

>>49243843
>rome lasted 100 billion years
>so that means the USA will also last 100 billion years
This is why you and him are both clowns talking about things you have zero knowledge about.

>>49243858
>let's not look at evidence, logic, numbers or facts, let's ignore all that and just pretend we know things

you're a fucking idiot

>>49227744
I guess we could last that long but we definitely already reached our zenith years ago

>>49243882
extremely unimaginative

>>49227682
Jews want to collapse my country.
>I hope the US finally collapses
Are you a fucking nigger or a Mexican?

>>49243878
>what are outliers and averages

>>49243878
>let's just trust the "experts" who present us these "facts" "logic" and "numbers"
You're not as smart as you think you are

>>49243905
>let's not look at underlying data, geography, natural resources, demographics, government structure, let's just flip a coin with no examination of the data and say hey that one was long this one won't be

>>49243923
>I will continue to ignore outliers and averages

>>49227682
>gobal financial system
dunno what it is. Nobody cares about obscure shit

>>49243911
there are certain facts which can't be denied

rome had a worse demographic situation

rome had a worse government structure

rome had a worse geographic position

rome had fewer natural resources

kill yourself

>>49243933
>I will continue to ignore all underlying data and judge solely based on the number of years something was an empire, nothing but the number of years matters

>>49243798
Ok let's go over this. White men are ultimately #1 when you account for looks/height/all roundness but this only goes for the top specimen. White Chads slay like never before and have unlimited options. But average to below average white men are treated like literal gutter trash within the context of Western society. They get blamed for all problems, have little resources, and are the punching bag for white women and society.

>>49243991
reality doesn't play that out though, white men always accrue more resources

I think you're thinking of asian men, where 50 percent of their women won't fuck them under any circumstances

>>49234879
>On the fundamentals the US occupies the best land in the world with the most arable land, massive reserves of resources, the most navigable rivers and no enemies within strike distance.
let's not forget long coasts bordering on 2 oceans

>>49239591
>who the fuck is going to be the "rising power"
FAGMAN tech supergiants and other corporations. Some of these already have more influence than actual countries.
And yes, they'd betray whichever country they're situated at. In a heartbeat, at that. We live in an age where war happens through money and public opinion swaying, the two things tech companies excel at the most

>>49243939
>there are certain facts which can't be denied
Yes, and facts are anything that can be proven and replicated by oneself
You are taking an "expert's" speculation as truth and giving validity to a narrative, which is not "truth"
As much media psyops as we see panning out daily now what makes you think the same thing didn't happen then?
>kill yourself lol!
Based retard redditor - when the smell of your own farts is whipped away from your nose with actual logic the cognitive dissonance becomes so painful you would rather die, but you're too narcissistic so you wish death on others.
This is why you won't make it.

is there anything more cucked than being a doomtard? think about it logically

>>49244005
There's like a billion Asian men and they have full control of their government. Meanwhile white countries are migration carousels and white women practice sexual selection based on jaws, dick size, and "game". The game gets harder every year. I already know plenty of 6'0+ white guys that gym and have stable lives that just don't cut it for white girls anymore because they want a criminal instagram star with free weed fucking under rap tunes. In another few cycles there basically won't be any white people outside some elite WASP circles and religious rural communities.

>>49244092
>is there anything more cucked than being a doomtard?
Trusting anything you can't verify and repeatedly replicate with your own senses

>>49244082
found the flat earther

the roman empire is still going eh

was barack obama an asian man, you can't trust the tv bro

kill yourself immediately

>>49244101
they have literally 0 control of asian puss

>The game gets harder every year. I already know plenty of 6'0+ white guys that gym and have stable lives that just don't cut it for white girls anymore because they want a criminal instagram star with free weed fucking under rap tunes. In another few cycles there basically won't be any white people outside some elite WASP circles and religious rural communities.

you're schizophrenic, also white women aren't worth as much as you pretend they are

>>49244116
>glownigger shill outs himself
Never fucking fails

>>49227682
Pax Americana nigger. Everywhere is worse.

>>49244133
They just need to control their borders which they are doing fine.
All women are shit but white/latina/asian are the only attractive ones. Since women are only useful for sex, white women are on top.

>>49244147
>white women are on top.

no they aren't

>>49244138
you're schizophrenic and desperately trying to muddy the waters

>nothing is real bro

kill yourself you stupid faggot

>>49244156
Who is then?
Everyone wants a blonde Stacey with a nice butt and medium tits. Most men just settle because they can't achieve her.

>>49244163
>NUH YOU SCHIZOFWENIC!!!
>WAAAAH BEWIEVE THE NAWWATIVE PWEASE
>WE PWOMISE WE NOT LYING THIS TIME!

>>49227785
> afghanistan
USA didn’t really lose in afghanistan. there was nothing interesting left to bomb, USA didn’t have a reason to genocide afghans, and afghans didn’t have the capability to inflict mass casualties on US troops to upset the general public. at worst would consider it a stalemate.

>>49244182
you presented nothing

>>49244179
prove it

>>49244191
And you did? You presented the same things your type always presents: "Trust the experts!" "The status quo is always right!" "Academic institutions aren't bought out by rich people with agendas that's schizo talk!"
Face it nigger, you got outed as a fed shill and you will always be unwelcome. And wait until you get punished for what you and your kind have done to humanity, you know it's coming too else you wouldn't be so scared.
And yes, you are scared, it's painfully obvious when you guys are.

>>49244251
I never said trust the experts

I said we have facts and data that can be trusted more than any alternative

you didn't try to refute anything I said because there is no refutation

because you're a small brained idiot wasting my time

>>49244230
Ok how? Latinas are basically the only group of women that come close under sexual selection of attraction. Nobody gives a shit about small flat gross ugly Asian/Pajeet/etc women. Negresses have nice bodies but are too ugly.

>>49244279
once again your opinion doesn't prove anything

you're just one idiot

>>49244275
>I never said trust the experts
Yes you do, by implying that "statistics" are infallible that is exactly what you're saying.
>We have facts and data
See, you did it again!
Who do you think presents these "facts" and "data"? It can't be... wait, it's those darn trustworthy "experts" again!

You and your comrades will perish.

>>49244317
there are certain things that can't be denied

because you didn't try to deny them because you know you have no evidence for them but I do

rome is a bad tactical position

rome lacks natural resources

rome had a worse demographic situation than we had now

the roman government was inherently more fragile than ours

please feel free to counter argue any of my points

if not shut up

This thread should be called "race frustrates me"

>>49244296
Why are we taking averages like the opinion of average people matters? Asian women have objectively weak, flat, and gross faces.

>>49244413
so you like men, good

>>49227682
people want this so bad but the truth is there will be no "i told you so" moment of catharsis these doomers want so badly to justify their negative worldview

>>49244426
Nope I like women with well defined features like actual proper jaws and straight noses instead of baby bitch looking creatures that look like they have dysfunctional basic biological mechanics.

>>49244521
strong jaws, wide shoulders, I get it bro

>>49244534
Yes all of those things are hot when combined with fertile hips, nice tits and female beauty. I'm sorry I'm not an ""average"" man into girls that look like teenage boys (aka Asian women).

>>49238017
Well they've always been kept physically unfit, but in this case it's because it keeps gdp up

>>49227682
Commies will try to seize power then remember they have nogunz.
US democracy will die because of social marxists and globalists corruption.
Fascist empire is the future.
Then we will readdress this cancel culture thing. See how they enjoy being cancelled while they bleed out in a ditch. Maybe they should have just let us talk, maybe they shouldn't have given so many 3 days bans.

>>49227773
Tell that to the vermin pushing child grooming and mass immigration. There is no uniting with villians that evil.

>>49244652
you're gay

>>49238912
You're literally comparing apples to iphones. It's still collapsing

>>49227682
dudes completely lost it
he expected a meltup with another 40% increase when we are in a slow bleed to -50%

>>49244713
or perhaps your definition of collapsing is to fit your nihilistic view of the world. There is nothing to indicate the soft power nor the economic might of the USA isn't best poised to rebound in a post covid world

>>49227682
>2 more weeks
>2 more years
>2 more centuries
Just give up schizo polcels

>>49227744
Why did you post this. Don't you know this board is riddled with chink- and kremlinbots? Look at the replies, kek.

>>49244702
Yes it's so gay to like women with fertile features and actual features representing functional mechanics.

>>49227682
nah the us will become a poor shitty country like brazil rather than collapse

it will just slowly become worse and worse. it can always get worse
there's little danger to it.

>>49244296
I am blue eyed white. I find white and the more attractive Asians fuckable or at least sexual, black women can occasionally be sexy but prajeet/raghead/arab women are fucking no way ever..they are fucking repugnant

>>49243445
>USD world reserve currency
>1921

Thats at least 20 years off.

>>49245049
>>49227682
>>49227789
>>49227848
>>49228233
>>49228288
>>49229489
>>49230828
The USA is the most prosperous, powerful nation in history and if you include the west in that, the EU etc by far the most innovative, advanced and influential in human history. The US is no where near to any kind of collapse. The majority of posters appear to be third world snow primitives 'russians' judging by their language who have a deep terror of bring grouped with their peers in sub Saharan Africa and are desperately jealous of the US and EU and daydream about it collapsing a n lit. But it won't. IT and the EU will just get richer and better while they get poorer. The funniest part is they will BLAME the USA and the west for their snowgeria like condition even though it was their own retarded adoption of dictators and communism that made it so. Seethe harder you snowmonkeys

>>49244713
Everything's collapsing, the question is whether it's collapsing sooner rather than later. You say sooner, I say later. But at least when I say later I provided some evidence to the contrary, all you dipshits do is cite Glubb and talk about cycles of human behavior, as if the US has not been through them before (hint: it's excelled in all but one of those cycles so far)

>>49245519
>The US is no where near to any kind of collapse.

>>49244340
>there are certain things that can't be denied
Like the fact that a cult of genocidal control freaks would do anything to keep their power, including lie to the public and pay off "trusted" institutions to corroborate their narrative with "facts" and "data"

Keep trusting those experts goyo

>>49227744
Britain had a majority white population. A civilization is only a reflection of its people.

>>49227682
>an unspecified horror beyond human comprehension will occur sometime in the future and it will be far worse than that previous event, of which nobody who has witnessed it is alive today

>>49228303
"what an absolute unit"

also btc 40k eow

>>49228233
checked.
there's a growing movement of white homesteaders in America doing homeschooling, and growing up eating nutritious farm grown veg. Ten years from now we'll have millions of these things, networked together. maybe suburbia will survived, but who knows. T. going rural with my rich sister and her husband 3-5 years from now.

>>49243318
kek

>>49228303
Paco eats too many tacos

>>49245627
>>49247738
I also am brad from Texas oblast and am like many of my family getting Dacha and sled with donkey and moving to lifestyle of rural subsistence became of the inevitable collapse of the decadent west. I hear many good things about Rouble and wish that here in American Texas oblast we had a strong leader like Mr Putin. Also it is important that there will be a war of race between blacks mexicans and people called white but also to do with transexuals and reddit and jews and globohomo. This is also all inevitable so consider gun and killing neighbour in civil war or burnish shop because of police dislike. I go now to learn to grow potato with my wealthy sister Karen and her disable husband ken

>>49248560
Look at this reditor seething lmao.
t. Paco from la provincia of California

>>49248714
Yes it is reddit of Mexican as I have heard in California Oblast. You are very wise about Globohomo Jew African Transexual Decadence and mosh of the economic collapse which will occur inevitably in corrupt USA and EU with civil war and lack of potato or a strong fertiliser industry like they say Russia has. If only there were independent fine news outlets like Zero Hedge, /pol/,/int/,/biz/, globalsecurity.ca, Russia Today and Sputnik News we can be finding out that this collapse is inevitable and allowing civl war to be the best fun. It is certain that the rouble will be used to buy potato but also Russian fertiliser in Californian and Texas Oblasts. If only there was strong leader like Vladimir Putin.

>>49227682
2030s seems incredibly optimistic.
I'd give it till 2028 at best.

>>49227682
This happens first
https://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/53593-credit-bubble-bursts-first-snows-of-k-winter/

https://business.inquirer.net/320459/keep-calm-winter-has-arrived

>>49235800
your federal government will still default
the dollar will still crash
the real USA will survive, cali and NYC will collapse
you will be tasked with defending your state borders against starving obese muttoids in need of corn syrup

>>49239106
literally none of those empires persist to this day

>>49249025
The US economic system will collapse but not because of Russia, and you're unironically retarded if you haven't realized it yet

also
> meds

>>49227789
>it hasn't even started yet.
well yeah if you were born yesterday you could say that

>>49227773
Least they were honest about it being a snake

>>49249481
And literally none of them declined because of their conquest of Afghanistan, nor did they have any particular trouble conquering it retard.

>>49227682
>2030s
lmfao it will happen before the end of this decade

>>49227682
The collapse of stocks recently lost as much money as the great depression did
If they claim people will be living like its the great depression that will take decades and be part of the "you vill own nothing" scheme where everything is socialized but the lowest and shittiest it can be

>>49245519
>But it won't. IT and the EU will just get richer and better while they get poorer.
Exactly. Same trends of the past 2 centuries will continue. Kind of like how you're using the Internet right now, same countries, same trends. All this doomer shit is woefully misinformed. You're a stupid as fuck if you want to go into the future with out Germany or the US on your team.

>>49227682
Losers have been warning about the upcoming collapse
>next decade this time for sure
since the 60s.
I'm not even considering the historical doomsday cults, just people pretending to talk about politics and economics.

>>49253755
>Losers have been warning about the upcoming collapse
They were right the whole time.

>>49245519
You have asbolutely no clue what you're talking about. Here, take it from a fellow American:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UBBMEcxv7k&ab_channel=TheMaverickofWallStreet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l4A6JOuzFQ&ab_channel=TheMaverickofWallStreet

>>49230828
do you even follow the Q plan?

>>49227744
>>49244902
>>49238309
>>49237847
>>49227773
>>49227773
So: am I wrong to think 4chan /k/ Military types, Hispanic Border Patrol, and maybe Midwesterners are the only people holding the union up at this point?

>>49248560
>>49249025
What kind of NPC thinks you have to be pro-Pooptin to be anti-USA?

>>49237464
>current year
>not living in red or blue
ngmi

>>49227744
>nah thats just a commie wetdream
This. That guy in OP's gay tweet reveals his believe system with the last sentence.
> big gobbermint good

>>49227848
Is everyone here retarded? The U.S. is winning on every front.
> Own the EU.
> France completely isolated because Germany is high on eco boost liquor.
> Outplayed China by devaluing the debt while at the same time increasing the Dollar's value compared to the Euro and every other currency.
> Best military sector in the world.
> Attracts the best brains from everywhere (Sowjets needed the wall to keep their big brains).
> EU buying U.S. gas for much more than russian gas.
> Kicked their counterpart Russia out of Europe for at least the next decade.
> Control the american continent.
> ...
I don't understand why everyone and their mothers repeat those doom and gloom stories about an american collapse.

>>49243445
Weren't those all gold or redeemable in gold?

>>49239591
Multipolarity. Burgers believe they can only be dethroned by another tyrant when in reality the position is inherently untenable

>>49256770
Yes and the USD stopped doing that in 71 when France started redeeming

>>49245519
Why does the US consistently post massive trade deficits if it is so strong? Don't you think a strong nation would produce so much stuff to not only be self sufficient, but also export a surplus?

>>49227682
Nothing Ever Happens

>>49256897
That's my point. It was always the same reserve: gold. The us fucked everyone over with their refusal to reddem, so it will be replaced.

Were the other reserve currencies replaced for the same reason?

>>49256985
Gold was a shitty currency that crippled economies and restricted their growth to what random amount of shiny rock was dug up that year.

>>49257056
Increase in money supply is not economic growth.

>>49256946
Yes a country with such a massive economy and investment and military and diplomatic strenth which has one of the worlds two reserve currencies (the other being the Euro) which ha sthe majority of its defficiet with its diplomatic and military allies and which is energy and food self sufficient can pretty much do as it likes. The USA and EU rule the planet by some considerable and unassailable margin deal with it.

>>49257096
Not being able to increase money supply when you have economic growth because it is a shiny rock is fucking retarded. Have you figured that out yet? The gold standard was shit and there was far greater poverty economic instability and war. Todays currencies are becoming data on disbursed distributed legers and you are still wining on about a shiny fucking rock. You want to know why poverty exists? Dumb retards like you

>>49256686

You have to understand there are two different things going on. You have the games the government plays on the global stage, that you just listed.

And you have the actual living conditions in your country. It does not matter how well the ruling forces are doing currently when your nation is disintegrating on a citizen-level. They are aware of it and scared. The nigger population is growing too fast. It will come to a confrontion in the not too distant future. You already see whites leaving the cities. It isnt said loudly, but indirectly. "We dont feel safe". From what?

Why do you think there is so much anti-gun promotion in the media now? They want to revoke your right to bear arms. Or atleast control it in some manner. They are scared. Your entire population is armed to the gills. It is uniquely american. Gonna be some really interesting times.

T

>>49256897
A good job for everyone that France did not manage to drag the world and the EU back to the 19th century too

>>49257161
Muh ebil elite Russian subversion whinging drivel puke. No ones nation is disintegrating except Russia perhaps that is why you are projecting such angst.

>>49257147
>muh poverty
Look at things on a scale of relative improvement rather than absolutes.
The working class experienced the fastest and largest improvement in its standard of living ever when the US was on a gold standard and had a relatively free economy.

The standard of living of Americans has objectively been declining since 1971.

>>49257205
I'm noticing a theme here.
Every "America numbah 1" poster ITT is a Russiagate schizo.

>>49257161
>It is uniquely american.
It is nit actually in places like France 1 in 3 own guns and by the time you throw on cops and soldiers it is probably 50% or higher. Lots of gun owners through the EU, well over 100 million. Not some poxy tyranny like Russia or China in the west

>>49227682
The US will be destroyed suddenly and completely in the 2030s. No collapse, no steady centuries long decline. Instant annihilation.

>>49257257
No I won't look at things that way because it is horse shit. Home ownership has never been higher than now, access to healthcare and education has never been so high, food and consumer goods have never been cheaper, travel has never been so affordable. The west fucking rocks.

>>49257308
Why ? Because some bitter little Russian fuck like you wishes it were so even though you ruined your own nation with communism and serf coward dictatorship?

>>49227682
>government support system
That’s literally who’s causing it kek

>>49257308
How about Russia is being destroyed suddenly and completely now by its insane dictator and his craven populations propagandists?

>>49227682
TWO MORE....PERIODS OF FIVE YEARS

>>49257382
When the world population is reduced by 145 million Russians the growth available to more productive peoples will be a great economic boom

>>49257357
>Russian
Because this babylon only becomes more abominable with every passing year. Rest assured though, Russias time will come too.

Consider this one in five homes in Russia have no toilet. 1 in 100 Russians have hiv. 2 in 100 Russians inject drugs. T5here are six times more abortions in Russia than children born. Their life expectancy is ten years less than people in the US or EU. When the west is whizzing around in AI electric cars with built in VR entertainment and remote medical assistance One in Five Russians will still not have a toilet. Their rulers blamed the west instead of retarded communism and their dictatorship. This is why they spam this retarded the west will collapse economically shit and have forever (the inevitable collapse of capitalism anyone) it is fucking retarded, they are fucking retarded, This thread is fucking retarded.

>>49257469
yeah yeah, the end is nigh says looney sandwich board man. A stuck loon is right once every ten millennia etc. You don't even understand the Bible. Savages.

>>49239745
>Russia is low in natural resources
Lmfao are you retarded. Russia is poor because they cannot cooperate with each other for shit, and corrupt magias end up in charge of everything. America will be poor as fuck for the same reasons the second the dollar reserve goes bust.

>>49257669
More bitter copium from snowambique the land of the toiletless

>>49257056
You’re an economically illiterate idiot. Gold has been the best currency in human history, the only reason it failed was because of debasing aka making it less gold. Kikes hate it because you can’t print free gold as easily even with paper certs.

>>49257669
Some day Russia may prove the west wrong by wiping standing and flushing as one with every home with a toilet under (insert current maniac dictator) but I would not bet on that, or bet on the west or the US having anything comparable to a typical Russian total economic collapse either

>>49257147
>there was far greater poverty and instability
When midwit? You literally know nothing of modern history. If there’s need for more currency silver and gold get divided into coins with smaller amounts problem solved

>>49257336
>the west fucking rocks
How fucking deluded one has to be to say the shitty overpriced healthcare and education are good? This retard lives on paper where kike numbers show how everything is good when literally every most basic aspect of society is falling apart. You’re a literal slave acting like you have so much because you’re a historically illiterate idiot who has no clue what life was like before the world wars.

>>49257753
Was it really the best currency ever? Could you send your shiny rock around the word in a fraction of a second to pay for a transaction? No you fucking could not. It was a bullshit currency that left the nations of the world behoven to a bunch of retarded shiny rock miners. Since the shiny rocks demise there has been an incredible increase in properity and reduction in poverty, advance in trasport, heathcare, communication, technology and standard of living. Fuck off back to Edwardian England and go sweep a chimney for your one toenail farthing of shiny rock

>>49257336
>the west fucking rocks
How fucking deluded one has to be to say the shitty overpriced healthcare and education are good? This retard lives on paper where kike numbers show how everything is good when literally every most basic aspect of society is falling apart. You’re a literal slave acting like you have so much because you’re a historically illiterate idiot who has no clue what life was like before the world wars.
>also consooming poisonous shit makes life good

>>49257844
Yes, it worked in Roman Empire which had near global trade. The issue of transferring large amounts was solved with banknotes in the past and can easily be done in digital age. You’re a moron again, everything you mentioned was created or much better during the time when gold and silver were money. Technology is not a product of fiat you retard holy fuck do you even know when those achievements were made. No of course you don’t

>>49257795
Why? Why do that? Why have shiny rock? Why not just have number? Why not have people decide how many new numbers instead of random amount of shiny rock in dirt? How fucking retarded are you.
>>49257795
>>49257753
You won't believe this but I actually have a postgrad in finance AND an undergrad in history(I also have a B.Eng and a postgrad in comp sci) and am a published author (and not vanity published wither). You fucking simpletons. You people really are the fucking tard train and you wonder why you are poor and bitter. It is simple. You are stupid. You are dumb dumb.

>>49257898
Pure comedy. I think you are actually trying to quote something I wrote over a decade ago about Roman coinage back at me. Enough of this shit. You Russian economic collapse shills ought to consider going and putting toilets into the 1 in 5 homes in Russia without them instead of sitting here spamming about western economic collapse if you want the world to stop laugh at you and your crummy propaganda and failed dictatorships

>>49257902
>he thinks numbers out of ass is the same as an underlying asset which checks the boxes for sound money
>poor attempt at argument from authority mixed with ad hominem and zero actual arguments
ok we’re done, you’re an absolute clinically narcissistic idiot raging because others don’t agree with your ignorant narrative. Unironically meds

>>49257902
>Why not have people decide how many new numbers
Because central planning is shitty. Tying money to a relatively scarce commodity allows market forces to regulate its value. Google "Economic Calculation Problem"

>Neocon retards and lolsperg retards flinging shit at each other
God I can’t wait for nigger lovers and gold autists to burn in hell

>>49257945
>starts mumbling incoherently about Russia
>you’re quoting me because I’m the center of the universe

>>49257966
MUH SHONEY ROCK MUH SHINEY ROCK
>>49257988
LOOK ITS A RUSSIAN I WONDER IF HE IS THE ONE IN FIVE WITHOUT A TOILET

>>49227848
>europoors conveniently forget who started the first 2 world wars that led us to this mess in the first place
Lmao @ you

>>49257705
You're a shill. Take a shill test:

Why did whites flee all big american cities for the suburbs and then even further?

A) they didn't leave, cities are whitopia
B) suburbs are like, so cool bro and we should abolish cities. Nevermind that places like detroit and Chicago used to be gleaming and proud gems of the american nation
C) feral blaqs harrass and kill each other and especially white people in their vicinity. When you defend yourself, the judge sends you to prison for needlessly harming the magic negro.

(Watch as the shill will be unable to acknowledge this truth, and instead will spray squid ink).

>>49239591
>worse demographics

i dont see how a Tunisian patrician is worse than a 56% hispanowhite obese Amerimutt

>>49227744
Pretty much, there's only one thing that matters, and US still mogs everyone when it comes to military spendings.
It's also what backs up the USD.

>>49244163
everything is real

>>49227682
He is 100% right... Watch and Learn!!

>>49227682
hes right about the collapse but wrong about the timeline. it will happen this fall