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STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


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Reporting in

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>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

Selling if we reach 185 and not looking back. Space is too cringe rn

>>49211313
the reality is, resin prints are the closest well get to monerochan figures.
with the right files i could probably print and sell them, though i see no way i you could get the total cost (including shipping) below 80-100$ and at that point they are not even painted, would look like picrel

>>49206998
>>49206610
forgot to ask:
As for the commissioned art, I’d need to ask the artists if selling their work is ok probably? Or did they gave up their „rights“ anyway?
Not trying to make big money off of this. If profit makes up for all the fees I’m fine with this.

>>49211547
>at that point they are not even painted
Why not make 3d printed snap on pieces that can be printed in different colors ala a Kinder Surprise Egg toy? Of course it won't look anywhere as nice as your picrel, but it'll be a starting point while 3d printer/homefab technology improves in time.

I envy XMR enjoyers by having such a good waifu.
fuck you

DOOMPA OH NONONO MONEROS BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

Are Monero devs well fed?

I always considered Blender as a great example of how successful a FOSS project can be, same with the Linux kernel.
However, one cannot be cynical and ignore the weight that the involvement of hundreds of individuals/companies donating money to these projects has in this.
Very few foss projects are in this situation, most FOSS devs are poor af and do it out of pure love for their projects, but this has been shown to not be sustainable in the long run in many instances, see what happened with Log4j Log4Shell vuln... The project was being mantained by just 3 unpaid devs IIRC.
Blender developers are well paid, have full time jobs fixing/improving it, and this has been wonderful for the project.
https://fund.blender.org/ has a good showcase of all the financial backers they have.

In the end, I just wonder if the Monero devs are well backed so they can focus on improving the project sustainably.

>>49213155
>ikb4 they have lot of XMR
Sure thing, but I see many users of this crypto value it based on its intrinsic technical and ethical values and seek to separate themselves from moonfags and scammers.
Will this still be the case in 5 or 10 years if devs motivation wears off? And no one has any more energy to keep fighting letting the glowniggers win?

The stagnation of the Korvi project is a good example of how lack of funding hurts Monero

I can understand if a merchant only sets up cryptocurrency payments with the big 3 (bitcoin, litecoin, ethereum). It casts a pretty wide net as far as crypto goes and it's less wallets/assets to manage.

But FUCK these businesses that seem to accept everything under the sun except for monero.
>we accept bitcoin, litecoin, ethereum, tether, usdc, zcash, dash, bitcoin cash, bitcoin sv, stellar lumens, cosmos, we even accept dogecoin and shiba inu! How wacky!
>What's that? Monero? We don't take that... MAY WE INTEREST YOU IN A SHIELDED Z-CASH TRANSACTION INSTEAD?
>HERE'S A WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN TRADE YOUR MONERO FOR SOMETHING ELSE WE'LL TAKE

Why are they so scared of monero, bros?

>>49211652
If this is not just some amateur-ish one time thing that you want to print and sell at some local convention or something, then my recommendation is to simply to commission new art for your endeavour, explaining your intent to reprint/resell the art so the artist can charge you.
If you reprint and resell Monero-chan posters that have been commissioned and posted here, there's a chance the artist find about it and cause you trouble. I don't know if they would be in the right but it's not a headache that I'd be willing to pay for. Easier to just commission new art.

>>49213536
>Why are they so scared of monero, bros?
niggercattle mindset

>>49213175
eh, every single ccs proposal so far got fully funded within a matter of days.

korvi died because the guy responsible for it just didnt seem to care. he started a different project but abandoned that too. we have a different i2p implementation now.

>>49213536
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MtgvoHROnj0

>>49213536
>But FUCK these businesses that seem to accept everything under the sun except for monero.
An important factor to consider is that of the dozen or so currencies you mentioned in your post, there are actually only 2 or 3 true implementations.
The reality is that we can summarize the major cryptocurrencies into three protocols: Bitcoin, Ethereum and CryptoNote.
Almost all of the coins you mentioned are either forks of Bitcoin with minor modifications, or are Ethereum tokens. It is extremely easy for a company to accept Shiba Inu if they already accept Ether, or USDT. In the same way, the work required to implement a Bitcoin fork is nil for these companies.
Cryptonote is a more complex protocol to work with, and there is much less infrastructure built around Monero so that companies can re-use code and support the currency more easily. What is needed for Monero right now, regarding to merchant adoption, are ridiculously simple, plug and play solutions so that the most diverse types of companies and businesses can accept Monero with ease considering key management, multisig (prerequisite for many business models), key synchronization / blockchain state sync between different devices, among other things that other protocols have already solved or don't have an issue with due to their transparency.

>>49211471
>you know what tot do

>>49213175
>i2p written in c++
why reinvent the wheel when it has been made?
i2pd.website

>>49211258

>>49213536
>>HERE'S A WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN TRADE YOUR MONERO FOR SOMETHING ELSE WE'LL TAKE
heh. send them to reddit. r/ChoosingBeggars
I'd rather pay using credit or debit knowing they have to pay for the transaction.

Reminder to post smug pepe/wojak/whatever every day that xmr has a higher marketcap then chainstink. Remember to harass and bully every other shitcoin community that falls below xmr in marketcap. Your only objective on biz is to dominate biz and turn it into a xmr club.

>>49214742
Don’t want pajeets or poompa fags staining its name

When are we getting rich lads?

Had a power outage while syncing the blockchain and now I think lmdb is corrupt but sb salvage doesn't work.
Any other options to repair it? I really don't wanna have to download the whole thing again

>>49215180
db salvage*

sell meow and buy back in the ~150 range?

>>49215180
>lmdb
is working fine. must be another issue.

>>49215180
LMDB is really lightweight and the best option in the world for a blockchain database hands down, but it's very easy to corrupt it. Have you tried popping up some blocks? Or you can't even get the daemon to run?
That is the reason I run it with --db-sync-mode safe:sync. I don't care if it's a slower to sync initially, at least it makes the blockchain a lot harder to corrupt.

>>49215417
As soon as I run it I get
>E Exception in main! Attempt to get block from height xxxxx failed -- block not in db
Yeah when I fix it I'll stick with safe mode

>>49215492
>Attempt to get block from height xxxxx failed -- block not in db
Try running this:
blockchain_import --pop-blocks 50
Then run daemon again and see if it syncs.

>>49214742
I'm a stinker but my second largest bag is XMR. My life is misery.

>>49215535
Thanks fren but no luck
>E exception at [Import error], what = Attempt to get block from height xxxxx failed -- block not in db
this happens with any pop-blocks value and the height the error returns doesn't change
I might have an old backup of the chain somewhere that I can resync from instead so I'll have a look for that

>>49215947
Hmm yes I would assume your lmdb got fucked then. If you're not getting good download speed syncing from scratch on the peer to peer network for some reason, you can always download the latest bootstrap on https://www.getmonero.org/downloads/#blockchain currently at ~86 GB. Then import the blockchain using the monero-blockchain-import tool that comes with the wallet and sync the remaining blocks.

>>49216091
>mfw HDD

Can someone tell me if I can check which address a monero transaction came from using the official wallet?

XMR doomping hard. Are whales washing BTC to dumps on plebs?

Is monero considered a good investment or store of value like bitcoin? I like everything about monero however it has no max supply that’s the only issue I’m worried about or if the team is printing more it’s unknown.

>>49217250
Price correction to match the rest of the crypto bear market after the rally. If it keeps it up I'm just gonna have to buy again.

>>49217072
No you can't.
You can verify that a transaction has happened, and you can see it on the blockchain. The most user-friendly way to do so I think is here: https://www.exploremonero.com/deposit

>>49217072
In a monero transaction, the sender's identity is private (obfuscated by the ring signature). But if you're in some kind of situation where a sender is voluntarily giving up that information, they can generate a transaction key that you can authenticate in your wallet. It's explained in the Mastering Monero book, go to section 2.3.3:
https://masteringmonero.com/book/Mastering%20Monero%20First%20Edition%20by%20SerHack%20and%20Monero%20Community.pdf

>>49217270
>I like everything about monero however it has no max supply that’s the only issue I’m worried about or if the team is printing more it’s unknown.
Monero inflates very slowly. Right now, there's more bitcoin in circulation and the supply of monero isn't going to surpass it until 2045 I believe. Also, the supply is auditable, so if there was some fuckery with the supply count, we would find out quickly.

>>49217270
>it has no max supply
There is a lot of thought and intentional design that has gone into the supply dynamics of Monero. Monero implements a “defined supply” of 18.4m coins, and has a tail emission of 0.6XMR per block after the defined supply has been mined. That tail emission starts June, 2022.
This means that Monero has extremely low inflation that approaches 0% forever, and is technically “disinflationary” or “asymptotatically approaching 0% inflation”. The inflation rate is currently lower than Bitcoin and gold, and will continue to decrease. It’s also important to realize that a low inflation rate like that of Monero is a way to replace lost coins over time in circulation, but is likely even too little inflation to account for lost coins (rough estimates are ~1.5% of coins lost in circulation each year, compared to Monero’s current inflation rate of 1.12% as of writing). This would mean that Monero is in fact deflationary, even with the low perpetual issuance.
It’s also extremely important to make it clear that Monero’s supply is pre-defined, verified and enforced via consensus, and entirely predictable, just like Bitcoin’s – you can know the inflation rate and totaly supply at any point in the future without doubts.
This tail emission enables two key features in Monero
A lower bound of network security forever (miners will always be able to rely on 0.6XMR per block, no matter the fee market)
A dynamic block size (Monero’s blocks can grow/shrink to adapt to short-term increases in usage, with a penalty to mining rewards during these times).

For more on both of these, see the resources below.
“Why Monero has a tail emission”: https://localmonero.co/knowledge/monero-tail-emission
“How Monero Solved the Block Size Problem That Plagues Bitcoin”:
https://localmonero.co/knowledge/dynamic-block-size
Inherent risks in not having a defined block reward in perpetuity:
https://www.cs.princeton.edu/~arvindn/publications/mining_CCS.pdf

[from sethforprivacy.com]

>>49217270
>I’m worried about or if the team is printing more it’s unknown.
This is probably the most common point of FUD brought against Monero, and is caused by the complexity and nuance involved in understanding how supply audits work in cryptocurrencies.
Monero’s supply can be easily audited by anyone running a Monero node, but this process does rely on the soundness of the monerod software implementation and the validity of cryptography used in range-proofs. These range-proofs allow it to be mathematically proven that the inputs and outputs of each transaction add up to zero without revealing amounts, ensuring that the supply is sound and not inflated in any way. Every node on the network is validating these range-proofs in each transaction every time a transaction is first seen, and validating all historical range-proofs when initially syncing.
A manual audit is possible because coinbase transactions (those transactions that are mining rewards in each block including issuance + transaction fees) are intentionally transparent and amounts of these outputs are not obfuscated in any way. Monero users running a node can simply validate these totals on-demand, and all node owners are constantly verifying the amounts in transactions via range-proofs.
Unlike Bitcoin, however, Monero users cannot simply do “napkin math” and validate the supply by manually adding up UTXO amounts, as transactions are never known-spent by the network, only by the parties involved in each specific transaction. This does force some added reliance on code/cryptography over Bitcoin, but as-of-yet I know of no one validating the Bitcoin supply this way. It does remain a valuable advantage of a transparent cryptocurrency, though it comes at the cost of the transactional privacy of every user in the system.

Excellent and nuanced blog post on auditability in cryptocurrencies:
https://web.getmonero.org/2020/01/17/auditability.html

[from sethforprivacy.com]

>>49213155
Big "FOSS" projects are often backed by tech companies. The devs of this projects are paid by the community with large amounts of Monero, and they probably cash it out pretty quickly because Monero is a payment system, not a speculative asset.

>Will this still be the case in 5 or 10 years if devs motivation wears off?
As long as there's a demand for privacy and smart guys who are disillusioned with globohomo, these SHOULD be a pool of talent available.

>The stagnation of the Korvi project
Mostly due to the dev burning out; rest assured, we've integrated another I2P integration to cover.

MINE ON P2POOL AND NOT ON A CENTRALIZED POOL, ESPECIALLY NOT ON MINEXMR. YOU CAN MINE DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET. OPEN WALLET -> ADVANCED -> MINING. RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR. FOR REGULAR CPU BE SURE TO MINI ON P2POOL MINI
>MINE ON P2POOL AND NOT ON A CENTRALIZED POOL, ESPECIALLY NOT ON MINEXMR. YOU CAN MINE DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET. OPEN WALLET -> ADVANCED -> MINING. RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR. FOR REGULAR CPU BE SURE TO MINI ON P2POOL MINI
MINE ON P2POOL AND NOT ON A CENTRALIZED POOL, ESPECIALLY NOT ON MINEXMR. YOU CAN MINE DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET. OPEN WALLET -> ADVANCED -> MINING. RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR. FOR REGULAR CPU BE SURE TO MINI ON P2POOL MINI
>MINE ON P2POOL AND NOT ON A CENTRALIZED POOL, ESPECIALLY NOT ON MINEXMR. YOU CAN MINE DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET. OPEN WALLET -> ADVANCED -> MINING. RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR. FOR REGULAR CPU BE SURE TO MINI ON P2POOL MINI

>>49217971
i'm glad they implemented p2pool into the gui wallet, i was too retarded to set it up on my own

Thank you everyone for addressing my concerns regarding the max supply I’ll start to buy some xmr now I feel a lot more confident in it

>>49211258
If I don’t plan to buy drugs or child porn what’s the point of holding a bag of XMR?

>>49217407
Alright.

>>49217475
>In a monero transaction, the sender's identity is private (obfuscated by the ring signature). But if you're in some kind of situation where a sender is voluntarily giving up that information,
No, I just want to know which of my commission addresses is receiving funds.

>>49218465
>If I don’t plan to buy drugs or child porn what’s the point of holding a bag of XMR?
Because other people buy drugs and child porn

>>49218538
So I should expect the price to go up?

>>49218498
>No, I just want to know which of my commission addresses is receiving funds.
Wait a second, this is very different from:
>check which address a monero transaction came from

It's possible to determine what address received a transaction. I don't think the GUI offers this capability, but Feather wallet does. It's called Coin Control. If you click on the Coins tab (may need to enable it first) you can see your unspent outputs and the address associated with it.

>>49218611
Correct

>>49218691
>>49218498
errr..... should have posted pic related I guess... you can see the addresses / values for each output

>>49210968
There is no way only 3d model would cost that much.
People on myminifactory are selling "totally not Warhammer" models that you can print for like 10 dollars.
I doubt they make anywhere near that much.

>>49218729
When Mad Thad gets out will it pump?

>>49211313
>>49218812
I was thinking just a 3d File you can download and print yourself just like the current art.
I wonder how much is this guy making
https://cults3d.com/en/users/Rubim/creations

>>49218875
Fuck off with your tranny nigger bullshit

>>49218778

>>49218995
He’s a tranny now?

>>49219016
>>Street Art NFTs by world renowned street artists.
>>Spray-To-Earn VR Videogame
>>Audit by CoinScope
>>Verified KYC Team
You have to be 18 to post here. Go to bed.

>>49218875
I thought Mad Thad was out already. Didn't he get a court-order permaban from the internet?

So, where's the floor, should I slurp now or wait a bit longer?

>>49218691
>>49218778
I guess you're right, I didn't even bother to consider the possibility of ever being able to look at a monero sender. It's much easier to think my money came from a specific source than "which address was used to receive a transaction" I suppose.

Anyway, thanks for answering my question. Goodnight and hope you make some good money!

Are atomicswaps recommended and privacy respecting? Can I send BTC straight from exchange into an atomicswap to break traceability ?

>>49220419
The tech is still pretty early so it's not recommended to send large amounts. Also, if you have KYC'd Bitcoin it won't make a big difference privacy-wise if you just send it off to Bisq or Tradeogre and exchange it for Monero the normal way.

how long does it take to turn out ANYTHING AT ALL into my wallet while mining? im using the default application, probably going to switch to xmrig (donationless) soon but only if i get any feedback at all, on p2pool. ive been mining for 2 hours now and not a single .00000000001 has been added to my account. am i doing it /for free/?

>>49222097
One of you in the pool actually has to find a block anon.

>>49222133
surely theres an approximate timeframe for something like that? mining at 2600 H/s right now which i know isn't a lot. every resource available calculates how much you make per hour which now i see is obviously wrong but im just craving a single change at all before i decide to move to a headless setup

>>49222378
https://p2pool.observer/calculate-share-time
https://mini.p2pool.observer/calculate-share-time

here you go retard

>>49221586
>We're here at the beach, and it's so pretty!
>Come on anon, it's time to relax!
>IRS-chan? Forget about her. You're with me now.
>Oh, I think I need some more sunscreen... Could you help me out anon?...
>You're the best!
>Let's have a drink!
>To financial privacy!

>>49222413
>"Relax, anon, we're in the Caymans. And I paid for the room in cash with no ID and only brought a small hot wallet with our vacay funds in it; it's in my beach bag. Has anyone ever told you you're kinda paranoid?"
>"Now toss me that burner phone before they open the banks in Geneva."

>>49213449
lmfao this image

>>49219073
This literally just sounds like a bad version of Splatoon or Jet Set Radio.

Is this an edit?

>>49223613
Looks like it; Monero-chan has orange highlights on the underside of her hair and orange eyes.

What's going on Monero bros?

No more sanction dodging, arms smuggling, cocaine haul importing, hitman assassination contracts, human trafficking funds being fat-fingered anymore?

Get your act together people.

>>49223835

We're waiting for Bitcoin to hit $100K first.

>>49224650
wtf is that??? its beautiful.

>>49224787
Raining fire from thermite and magnesium cluster rockets.

>>49224787
That's what Sarai saw before turning to salt.

>>49224898
oof. where were they used?

>>49225124
Eastern Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/Harri_Est/status/1529739991777255426

Monero's so good. I used to be a bitcon maximaslism cultist (fuck you tone vays) but after my lightning payment failed again I've seen the light. Bought meself a couple of moneros, using it to pay for my vpn and vps, shit's real good.

>>49225203
>I used to be a bitcon maximaslism cultist

lol many us used to be, welcome to the party.

>>49225203
>fuck you tone vays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ZfusSdyWA

Tone Vays is a dishonest retard. You can even get insane maxis like Michael Saylor to (begrudgingly) admit that Monero has value, Tone Vays won't even acknowledge that.

>>49225372
I haven't actually watched him in like 2 years but I've ingested all of his maximalism back in 2017-2019. I haven't kept with cryptoworld that much after that. It's kinda funny cuz when I watch his latest videos I can predict basically word for word his every take and every TA prognosis so he hasn't changed at all.

>>49225409
>>49225372
His other crew is also retarded, I don't know this bitcoin mechanic guy but Jimmy Song and Giacomo are certified cultists (and giacomo still didn't get a fucking mic).

>>49225372
>>49225441

Seth is recording the McCormack podcast next week, prepare for unprecedented levels of maxipad butthurt.

モネロちゃん大好き

>>49225203

>>49225758

Go back to watching K-On

>>49225672
I used to listen to What bitcoin did too, there was like 20 episodes or something back then. 5 years later and there's literally 0 progress in btc. Lightning is still years away if it works at all. Small blocks were a mistake.

>>49225203
Welcome to the party my friend.

Looking for a MoneroChad to explain some stuff to me please:

So I think I understand the pederson commitment math on the curve to hide amounts, but I'm struggling to understand how ring signatures obfuscate your transaction even further.

If only one set of the inputs in a ring can be proven to equal the outputs, don't you know exactly which inputs were used? I'm assuming I'm just missing some more math and I don't want to read an entire book today and hope to figure it out (I'm not good at math). My apologies if this is a stupid question.

One more thing:
With the pederson commitment:
c=r*G+a*H

Where a is the actual amount, r is a random number that you generate, G and H are known points on the curve. If someone ever finds a single combination of 'a's and 'r's that result in the same 'c', can they now just print monero by using the smaller 'a' as an input but the larger amount as an output? I understand that's very computationally unlikely to be found, but if only one is ever found the whole chain is fucked, right?

>>49211258
Hi pedos
So for a while I’ve been pondering buying xmr, simply because part of me wants to hedge against the downfall of civilization and as such I believe exchanges and governments might rug ownership of cryptocurrency at any point in time
Eth and a lot of coins have dumped quite a bit, can anyone tell me why this nigger coin isn’t at a yeary/21-22 low too?

>>49226147
because it's still 60% lower than 2018 ATH. Nothing is priced in. The coin is worth $5k a piece at least

>>49226147
because xmr is used in the real world faggot. it's not an "investment" ponzi for speculators

>>49226013
One more thing sorry:

If a key image can't be directly linked to the TXO because it's a one-way function of the one-time destination keys, how does the network know that the key image included in a transaction is legitimate?

>>49226013
>>49226215

You're better off asking such technical questions on the dev Matrix.

>>49225203
I'm sure some bitcoin maximalists don't want to use monero because they fear falling in love with it.
Monero has its trade-offs, and I can even understand some of the reasoning behind the idea of not holding monero, only using it to transact etc, but to deny that the tool is useful, fast and greatly protects your privacy by default is to deny objective reality, and that's why I don't give any attention to bitcoin maxis.

>>49226013
>If only one set of the inputs in a ring can be proven to equal the outputs, don't you know exactly which inputs were used?
No, because you need a view key to prove that. Without the key, there's no way of proving or disproving the validity of the transaction.

>>49226147
The one promised use case of crypto was peer-to-peer PayPal. This is literally the only currency in the world that does that. I'm not joking. Most of our transaction volume is people buying guns and drugs and making illegal wire transfers. Not a single other non-fiat digital currency can make this claim.

Go buy something with Monero right now, if you don't believe us. It's literally as easy as using PayPal. The wallet software is very easy to use and you can literally go spend your Monero in seconds on virtually any illegal product you want. Or play it safe and buy an Amazon gift card from CoinCards.com. Either way, it will literally be as easy as using PayPal. Not a single other crypto does this. Not even Bitcoin.

And, let's be honest, there's not really another actual use case for digital CURRENCIES aside from, you know, paying for things.

bit of an oxymoron but what’s the monero chads acceptable smart contract platform?

What % of all money held would you recommend holding in monero?
Do you use it only as a payment method or as a store of value as well?

>>49226974
>inb4 dash
Yes, Dash does a very good job of being peer-to-peer PayPal, but its privacy is weak relative to Monero, so I should qualify: Monero is the only cryptocurrency that is as easy as using PayPal but also lets you buy whatever the fuck you want without the cops knocking on your door.

>>49211258
>>49211315
Just about synced and will be switching to P2Pool thanks to these breads. Keep up the good work.

XMR OR DIE

>>49227030
i think im not the only one but im 100% in.

>tfw bought monero for my parents

>>49227038

>>49226974
>No, because you need a view key to prove that. Without the key, there's no way of proving or disproving the validity of the transaction.

No, you prove to the network that the inputs and outputs equal each other with math. You need the view key to know the actual amounts.

>>49227030
I hold all of my legitimate income in savings, stocks, bonds, very normal conservative investment strategy, no crypto except for a hobby acc on Coinbase and Binance.

I do all of my online stuff completely anon and get paid in Monero when my anon personas ask for money online, and it stays in that wallet; I don't trade it. I make purchases related to my anonymous online life with Monero.

My Monero wallet is like a bank account for my secret alternate self.

What do monero users smell like?

>>49227298
??? xmr

>>49227281
extremely based

>>49227298

>>49211375
It's about Monero-chan, right?

>>49227265
Yeet yeet

hello xmr chads, i want to get a tattoo of xmr or smshit like that with a friend, and our tattoo artist will take XRM as payment, as he wants to be happy.
what tattoo designs would be a good idea, lets say for the shoulder blade

>>49227260
me 2 but they are both retarded boomers that dont understand the macro of whats going on.

>>49227577
go subtle or risk gettings mugged in an alley.

>>49217270
desu inflation is a good thing if it's out of the hands of kikes.
Imagine running the entire world economy on 21 million Bitcoins, and progressively less over time as some is lost due to wrong transactions etc.
>yes I would like to buy this piece of bread for 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001 BTC please

Not to mention that deflationary currencies incite people to never spend since you'd want to wait as long as possible for your currency to be worth as much as possible before using it. A currency that has constant, but moderate inflation, which is designed into the system and can't just go wild at a moment's notice because the kikes in power decided to put the money printer into overdrive is a good thing.

>>49227577
>, i want to get a tattoo of xmr
Shitty OPSEC.
By the way, what is monero? never heard of it..
Is it a latin american beach?

>>49227577

Monero-chan, avoid branding yourself with logos or anything easily identifiable as crypto.

>>49227577
This would be excellent for a shoulder blade, maybe more prominent like your forehead.

>>49227016
>bit of an oxymoron but what’s the monero chads acceptable smart contract platform?
They all have centralization problems, but Ethereum has the most shit actually built on it.

>>49227625
There are many many boat accidents there I hear people losing their crypto all the time

>>49227577
Would you tattoo a dollar sign or a euro? It is a currency after all. Also, that's good advertisement but awful OPSEC. Power levels must remain undisclosed.

Btw you can buy monero from bitfinex without KYC too if you use crypto, I think it can be added to that "where to buy" pic. I've been using bitfinex for 6 years to trade btc and I haven't done any KYC at all, they only ask for it if you want to withdraw or deposit fiat.

>>49228189
dollar, since it is a longer historical symbol for the Spanish Peso or 'piece of eight'.

Alternatively British pound, has somewhat richer history.

Either way, Euro is modernist globohomo trash. Absolute ideology.

>>49228379
By all means then tattoo a swastika, it has a rich history.
That logic is retarded, so is making an ink symbol of a currency on your body.

>>49228467
Any tattoo is retarded.

>>49228500
Basically, yes.

>>49227661
>pic
Why

>>49228189
How does openly advocating for Monero fit into your threat model? OPSEC should always be accounted for, yes, however the more people that advocate for it, the better for longevity. There is a lot at stake here for the common man, and I think the time has come to push for Monero acceptance. Curious to hear your thoughts, and other anons as well.

>picnotrel just flexing

>>49228741
>picnotrel just flexing
elaborate

>>49211258
>everything still in the garbage except xmr
I should have bought when I had the chance. I've lost like 1K.

Learn from my mistake anons. Never give up on xmr.

>>49228780
Hehe. Just writing a monitor that dumps threads to JSON to feed into a data collector pipeline. I figure the bear market is a good time to start monitoring for social signals on /biz/ and enhance other data I'm collecting.

>>49228500
Yes

So what is the price target for EOY?

>>49229283
[Unknown]

>>49229283
$420.69

>>49217270
What happens to BTC when people stop mining it for profit? Maybe some whales will mine at their own expense, but I think we're just going to see a move to Layer 2, AKA fractional reserve banking 2.0. If you can't work with the blockchain directly, you can't guarantee that your crypto is really whatever share of the total supply it's supposed to be. You could be being sold non-existent BTC on the basis that you would never try to withdraw it. Wouldn't this be inflation by proxy?

>>49228741
>How does openly advocating for Monero fit into your threat model? OPSEC should always be accounted for, yes, however the more people that advocate for it, the better for longevity.
I agree with you, Monero must be promoted in order to achieve a massive world adoption. But you can promote it without being religious about it (like Bitcoiners), because it is a tool, a tool which the principles that made it happen are what matters. Without its principles, there would be no Monero as we know it. This is a pattern repeated in nature.

>There is a lot at stake here for the common man, and I think the time has come to push for Monero acceptance.
I agree aswell, but not through a tattoo, that's just idiotic. The best method to spread the word will always be "mouth to mouth" (which is the best OPSEC). Social media helps and amplifies the message, but a physical conversation will lead to greater success. All of this still stems from one thing: planting seeds of awareness. Without seeds you cannot make a solid, strong & healthy tree.

>>49228837
What is it that you want to accomplish with this? If you want to share that goal of course.

>>49228837
Ok glownigger chan

>>49229324
>I think we're just going to see a move to Layer 2, AKA fractional reserve banking 2.0
I agree with this, though not so much the sentiment of factional reserve as such. That is, it will LITERALLY be reactional reserves (another more plentiful coin backed by a reserve coin), but fractional LENDING has been the problem.

But Miners are going to be looking INTENTLY to find ways to secure their investment (asics). If BTC along won't support that, then they will need to be the ones behind these reserve banks and networks that people use for this that or the other thing. Else they're sitting there mining to secure an asset. At what point do they sell BTC? and what point do they sell asics?

I don't see transactions paying for miners. Layer 2s are going to eat transactions. Getting into Layer 2s to recover the transactions is sunk cost. You're getting more transactions, but you're not getting any/many more fees, all the while expanding infrastructure. Either BTC increases in value faster than energy (which attracts and demands more miners to secure the network), or BTC finally sees a DRAMATIC shift in security that is FAR less energy intensive to secure a deflationary asset that can REALISTICALLY deflate slower than the cost to secure it.

>>49229566
>What is it that you want to accomplish with this? If you want to share that goal of course.
The use case that got me coding this initially was to try and get wind of new projects that might get an early post or two here. I'll end up doing lots of things but the overarching goals I have are:
>Learn data ingestion/enhancement pipelines
>Feed my autism
>Experiment is ML (sentiment, trends, etc)

>>49229571
Nah, I'd be monitoring /pol/ if that were the case. Even then I wouldn't be glownigger. I'd just sell them the intel.

>>49229800
Would you make a Monero bot that provides information to an answer? Ranging from easy to difficult, especially a more technical one.

>>Experiment is ML (sentiment, trends, etc)
Sounds like a fear-greed index btc has.

>>49230218
>Would you make a Monero bot that provides information to an answer?
This is an interesting idea. Do you have any other comparable bots so I could take a look at features?

>Ranging from easy to difficult, especially a more technical one.
Like one of those "X concept explained to a child, an adult, a scientist, and etc etc" kind of thing?

Celsius rugged. Is it incorrect to think that this is good for Monero? Will people will flood to XMR and self custody rather than have nothing or will they lose 99%?

>>49230460
>Is it incorrect to think that this is good for Monero?
It certainly isn't bad for Monero, no. However, is the Celsius community aware of Monero? Efforts should be made to show them the way.

>>49230460
>Celsius rugged
Never heard about so I guess serves them right.

>>49230218
>>49230352
I'm already getting some ideas, so definitely drop me any info about features. Also, if you have already written explanations, throw them up on pastebin or a git repo.

>>49227577
draw something around it so that it makes up the M silhouette so only someone that truly knows Monero can see it, like pic related

>>49229317
that happen last year

Bump

I was gonna say that I just got my first XMR...but not quite after transfer fees it seems...

Thoughts on RAIL?

>>49232114

>>49230352
>This is an interesting idea. Do you have any other comparable bots so I could take a look at features?
http://start.csail.mit.edu/index.php
Or
cleverbot.com
I had a great one, but forgot it's name. There's a lot more out there.

>Like one of those "X concept explained to a child, an adult, a scientist, and etc etc" kind of thing?
That would be even better lol

>>49230592
>I'm already getting some ideas, so definitely drop me any info about features. Also, if you have already written explanations, throw them up on pastebin or a git repo.
Nice! Post this on the subreddit aswell to get more opinions on this topic.
Just an idea but it would be cool so that the bot could be implemented to businesses in order to explain what is Monero and how it works (simple stuff to businesses though).
Aggregate the information on the OP's posts from every xmr thread and also the links mentioned:

>>49211258
>>49211315
>>49211332
>>49211347
>>49211354
>>49211375

>>49231769
>he disclosed

Morning.

>bought monero
>using it to pay for anything is a pain in the ass as it would require me to pay capital gains tax on each transaction
Paying with crypto being a taxable event is the primary reason why we don't see mass adoption.
>inb4 just dont pay
Retarded Idea since the company you bought the item off could reports their transactions to the feds. I'd rather pay the annoying tax than go to prison.

>>49232582
Don't buy things. Simple as

>>49232582
Doug Tuman interviewed a guy that has an interesting take on that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8g5inZ05NQ

>>49232582

>>49232627
Why didn't I think of that
>>49233214
Giving it a listen now, you got a timestamp for the specific part?
>>49233218
based, I'm a coward though.

>>49232582
I would avoid directly paying for something in monero while giving your name and address (for example, if you bought computer parts off of Newegg using cryptocurrency). However, I think most people would fly under the radar by purchasing gift cards (prepaid visas and mastercards work most of the time) and using those instead. Probably a good idea to spread your purchases out among multiple retailers (i.e. don't spend 300 gift cards on Amazon in one year).

>>49233350
Around like 17:05 it starts getting good. Dude basically says assert your state citizenship instead of 14th amendment federal citizenship. The pertinent point being you don't file federal taxes if you're not a federal citizen. He's got a site with a seminar and stuff. The main drawback I see is that you'd have to have a contract with your employer so they don't bother with a W2.

is it possible to be doxxed by balance amount?

also how do I check if my node is being used by the public to send txs??

I'm noob to monero

>>49233668
sounds like the sovereign citizen thing if I'm being honest

>>49233680
>is it possible to be doxxed by balance amount?
not necessarily but it's kinda nobody's business how much you have

>how do I check if my node is being used by the public to send txs??
who is able to connect to your node?

when're we getting rich lads?

>>49233842
Riches will come with broader adoption. Spread Monero to everyone you know.

>>49215118

>>49217479
very good posts, anon
is there any expected price movement when tail emission starts June 2022?

>>49228687
didn't even do it right, will be raised instead of flat scar

>>49234266
how should it be done? less time being pressed onto the skin?>>49234266

>>49233680
>im noob to monero
>dumps ~9k dollars into it
why do zoomers do this?

>>49227298
>What do monero users smell like?
Gunpowder, scotch and bussy

>>49233813
>who is able to connect to your node?
yes does (in) mean the number of people using the node to send txs?
>why do zoomers do this?
because I can nigger come at me

>>49234434
>>49234959

>>49233680
>also how do I check if my node is being used by the public to send txs??
If you didn't open the necessary ports on your router and if you didn't started the daemon with the necessary parameters to make your node a public node, no one is sending txs through your node.
Connections in and out merely representing the peers downloading / syncing the blockchain from your node. Nothing to do with sending txs through it.

>>49233746
>sovereign citizen
This is a meaningless catch-all term like 'white nationalist.'
As for the idea that there's 2 sets of laws for 2 sets of citizens: this isn't new at all. depending on who you ask it's a meme, or the actual way out of the rat race. Some read pic related, or find Russell Jay-Gould, or find some other group and try to out-jew the legal system by identifying as (insert term here) citizens. The process is slightly different for each group but they all involve invalidating your birth certificate, your SSN, and never paying taxes again. The IRS explains away the people that manage to pull it off by saying that you don't have to pay income taxes if you truly believe that you don't owe them, which gives them plausible deniability about everything up to and including "we were properly ratified because....we just were ok?"
I honestly can't tell if it's a glownigger psyop, or a glownigger coverup. In either case it's well played.

>>49234434
9k is nothing . i wiped my ass with 9k today

>>49233668

>>49235654
>The IRS explains away the people that manage to pull it off by saying that you don't have to pay income taxes if you truly believe that you don't owe them
A few days ago there was an AMA with a customer service from IRS on /pol/ and he said that people call them explaining that they won't pay taxes because they're sovereign citizens, or blacks saying that they are owed reparations and won't pay, and he said he just transfer these cases to Collections and that's now their problem.
He also said that if you don't pay your taxes for 10 years you officially "fall off the grid" and they don't bother anymore. He said many people got fucked because they went to claim the stimmy checks which made they appear in the grid for the first time after decades and are sent to Collections. So yeah I think you can get away with it in a few scenarios.

>>49232582
>using it to pay for anything is a pain in the ass as it would require me to pay capital gains tax on each transaction
Honestly I think this will not be the case for long. It's completely unfeasible for most people. Virtually impossible to enforce. When I see absurdities like that being setup by the government I just ignore them because I know they won't do shit.

Bump. XMR OR DIE

>>49237746
Vintage

>>49237899
Checked

>check catalog
>oldest thread still active
>7th thread in n° of replies, just behind /pmg/
I love u all for being the least pozzled crypto general, basically free from bots/shills that have killed this board

>>49227577
Monero symbol on one side and swastika on the other

glowies seething

XMR OR DIE

The Mises Caucus has successfully took over the Libertarian Party in burgerland. Ron Paul spoke at their event. Looks like the SPLC and leftist news outlets are already writing about the neo-nazi takeover of the LP.

Nature is healing.

>>49239697
QRD on how this relates to Monero?

>>49239906
A lot of the people in the LP promote crypto but because they've been ran by dweeby, woke leftists it makes it look bad. Having actually good people in charge (also promoting crypto and free market money) who don't act like pussies is much better PR.

It's more of a macro issue and not directly tied to Monero, but it is good nonetheless.

>>49218465
Because we’re headed into a future where all your money is attached to your digital ID and Monero is a way to escape authorities. The entire global black market could run on Monero one day

>>49240255
Impressive post. You're right. We finally have a political party again.

>>49240407
I still don't understand how CDBC are legal.
How are people even talking about these things without seeing the obvious problems with it.
I know (((they))) want it but come on, this just can't happen.

>>49240649
I think you overestimate the intelligence of the average normie. If it doesn't immediately affect their livelihood in a negative way, they will not care. Hell, a lot of them fall for the "It's for your safety" meme and would gladly use it over something they're told is only for criminals.

I've often wondered what would happen if monero hit buttcorn market cap numbers but moreover became a medium of exchange that operated completely independent of fiat (ie, no need to off-ramp). What extent would they go to to sabotage the network? Right now the system is reliant on good intentioned cyberpunks to keep everything running smoothly but I can imagine a future where even they could be subverted by motivated parties, especially when the stakes are much higher and when (((livelihoods))) are directly threatened.

I'm not saying it would happen I'm just saying that if monero became everything that we wanted it to be there would 100% be solid attempts at subversion even assassinations.

Do you agree?

>>49240649
The same way fractional reserve banking is legal.
1.) It benefits those in power (until it doesn't and they dump the costs on the plebs)
2.) What are you going to do to stop it? (bitcoin/monero? lmao)

Hello XMR-chads. Maybe you guys can help me out with this.

I have a XMR-wallet (XMR-GUI) I dont use, and last week my HDD wiped. I recovered most of it, but I am struggling to find seed or GUI-file. And it turns out I need that account for...reasons.

I recovered with testdisk, and use software to search for keywords. But the seed is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I am thinking the wallet-file is easier. Any advice?

>>49242173
Try free program called locate32 and you can search by extensions. Key file has .key or .keys extension so it should be ez to find.

how yall feelin this morning

>>49242228

Thanks anon, it did work to find all key files. However I could not open any of them in the XMR-GUI. One of them is a wallet-key, but I think they need to be reformatted or something to be useable. Any ideas?

>>49241774
If monero reaches that level, you can bet there will be more forces working against it. The main point of failure would be the development team, so it's good that quite a few are still anonymous. Checking over the code then becomes even more important.

>>49235886
then give some, i only have x monero

>>49242622

I opened them in notepad. I get either this:

-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----

Or

-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED
DEK-Info: (Numbers).

Is there anything I can do with that to convert it to a private key I can open in the Xmr GUI?

>>49242703
>you can bet there will be more forces working against it.
Are those who bought xmr on ceqs screwed if not careful?
what opsecs do you recommend?

>>49227661
There's no way you have to hold it that long. I reckon that guy's just a psychopath.

>>49231769
lol wrecked

>>49229566
Decent quote but that guy unironically looks like a chud. Surely you can be an extremist and happy and relaxed.

>>49232741
>Every country I don't like is africa
Cry moar mutt

>>49241297
>If it doesn't immediately affect their livelihood in a negative way, they will not care.
In fact it can still affect them negatively and they still won't care until it gets quite bad. In fact they'll probably think it's helping them during the early stages of negatives. Then it's "not that bad". Eventually they "rise up" when the news tells them to be angry.

Nigger kys
>>49243334

>>49243426
Worst part of CBDC is mint/burns and social credit. People can effectively have no money and still feel indebted to their slavers because UBI promises if they earn just enough good boy points they can get a few scraps from what is "their" basic income.

CBDCs are nightmare fuel.

wagmi

>>49242747
A fresh start of the GUI (or just logging out to the screen with the little flag globe) should provide the option to restore a full wallet directly from a private spend key, which will re-generate your wallet file.

If you try all of the and they don't work, I would recommend trying to recover your .keys file itself, which you can then get your new GUI software started with using "./monero-wallet-cli --wallet-file [old-file-name].keys"

>>49244288
What's the problem, chud?

>>49233680
>he disclosed

>>49233680
>is it possible to be doxxed by balance amount?
No, Carl of Wichita, Kansas, you're fine, although I do hope your wife and two daughters know you're posting screenshots of your bags on 4chan.

what are xmr maxies thoughts on $arrr?

>>49247391
>what are xmr maxies thoughts on $arrr?

Monero doesn't have maxis, it has extremists.

https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill

>>49211258
how's everyone feeling about Secret?

>>49245705
>chud
Fuck off back to plebbit

>>49219647
Just DCA

If I erase all of my monero GUI wallet from my computer, and reinstall it plus the CLI, I won’t have to “restore wallet from seed” if I got my hardware wallet with my private key on it, it will boot up and show my balance and all my sub addresses from that right? Even if I use all CLI wallet it’ll pop up there even though I been using all GUI? I’m considering reinstalling it all because shits not working right. Can’t get my node running in tor or i2p. Oh! Speaking of that, can I keep my LMDB file saved somewhere else then bring it back after reinstallaton? I don’t want to delete my node! It’s taken so long to get where I’m at with it!

>trying to brute force 9 characters of a vanity .onion address on a laptop

wish me luck

>>49247496
whoaa based!

>>49247755
Unironically kys

>>49247852
wow rebbitor owned epic style! Us 4chinbros now de wae amirite Xd

How much XMR do I need for SEX with MONERO-CHAN

>>49247959

?????? XMR

Remember, fellas.

They're out there right now.

Why did XMR hold up so well? It dumped horribly this time last year. It's literally outperformed everything else in my portfolio, even though it's acting like it normally does.

pending pending pending
whyyy

>>49248424
The fact gab still exists makes me think that is a demoralization post. 4chan too but I get called a fed for my belief that this site isn't a honeypot it is just filled with shill bots.

>>49248494
"we are so slienced!!" screamed literally dozens chud communities on the internet.

>>49248821
you will never be a woman

>>49248436
It has actual usecases, and is harder to manipulate. One of the reasons I think it won't be banned in the long run is that they can't manipulate it profitably then. If they ban it, it will go to the moon in defi markets.

Lol, you are losing your money on trash and then cry on 4ch on every topic. Be wiser, kiddies, check out Enegra

> Token backed by real equity
> Legit company operating for 10+ years
> Multi-billion $$$ assets backing the equity!

>>49248885
>centralised shitcoin
wrong general for that lad. I do hate how much crypto has changed over the years, I feel everyone is just about making as much fiat as possible but "on-chain", I miss the old vibes and ideas of a separate economy

>>49248885

>>49248885

>>49247959
10,000

>>49249296

Thank you for keeping it woke.

>>49248436
right this second theres like 169 btc worth of volume on trade ogre for xmr. interperate as you will.

>>49248806
underrated

>>49249592
There's a 4500 xmr buy order on the top line..

Someone's coming in hard through tradeogre.

>>49249730

Da.

>>49249730
also kinda interesting to see that btc and xmr pumping simultaniously. usually doesnt happen. someone must really want in rn. and not just pumping in usd value or btc value, but both.

>>49249730

>>49249841
wonder who. wonder if this could make for a strong support in the future.

>>49249841
Wait what?
U srsly tryin 2 buy 3K monies using BTC?
(or the other way round?)

>>49249841
>that round number

Jesus that is a big fat finger buy.

>>49249870
>>49249901
>>49249861

aint me, but they just keep going

>>49249916
already down to 2k

>>49249901
usually fat fingered buys shoot the price up instantly because they unwilling to just set a buy order at spot, and just buy up the order book instantly. right?

>>49211258
Anyone else ignore all the noise and just.. buy SNP500/equity ETFs, monero and just forget about everything?

>>49249916
Ion see any, did it just get filled?

>>49250014
Correct, although it's close in this case as it's a human finger doing this with no regard for slippage, as usually you try and buy little chunks at a time over a spread out period so arb bots can get you the best deal. Guessing it's a Russian doing this to avoid sanctions.

>>49213648
Monero-chan knows what's up

>>49250157
yeah, the second one took a min to fill but just cleared

>>49250157
pulled order after he got about 2.5k worth filled.

>>49243334
>Decent quote but that guy unironically looks like a chud.
Retarded take.
>Surely you can be an extremist and happy and relaxed
Once the job is finished. Job's not finished, not even close.

>>49242772
Yeah just look at what happened in Canada with the truckers' bank accounts. Using monero ain't gonna help if you're handing over all that sweet KYC to the feds. It's better to use no-KYC exchanges because of this. And go boating more often.

>>49217518
Isn't the wallet open source?

>>49250326
>It's better to use no-KYC exchanges because of this.
Ive already closed my binance account.
I did not know any p2p exchanges so bought it there.
Forgive me o lord for Ive KYCinned.

Do you think it will come back and bite me in remote future?
(Binance data retention is 5 years ig)

>>49250401
probs not unless you get caught up in some shit and

>linkie stinkie status
DESTROYED, the fatman is roping
>bTRASH status
DESTROYED, roger ver roping
>next target, status, found
>FTX token

our of my way coming through, bankman time to rope

>>49225776
What did he mean by this

>>49250509
The people cry out for SBF's reckoning.

>>49250636
>next target identifed in queue
>litecoin
>destroy the boomer
>beep beep boop boop

>>49247496
It's actually a pretty good term if you just own it, not even a real insult

>>49247563
Yes, you can do that, it shouldn't affect nor your keys nor your blockchain folder.
You can also just download the GUI/CLI again, unzip it in another folder and run from there, without deleting the files for your previous wallet. Unless you "installed" it on Windows I guess, then maybe that could pose a problem to have two concurrent installations, but I wouldn't know because I'm not a Windowsfag.

>>49250370
Yes, it is.

>>49247650
Godspeed you beautiful retard

>>49249337
That pic always reminds me of
> check the price

Can the government ban Monero? What then?

>>49251660
>Can the government ban Monero?

Can the government ban crime?

What then?

Any crypto that can be crippled by a governmental ban isn't truly permissionless.

>>49250702
I don't believe monero has ever been above litecoin in 8 years of it's existence. That would be quite the feat.

>>49251660
>do you have any Monero sir?
>no officer
Problem solved. The only thing govt could do is stop exchanges from proposing XMR as a tradable asset, but there would still be ways to buy it directly from other people and/or smaller exchanges that don't get noticed by the authorities.

>>49251660
Roughly the same thing that happened when they banned weed.

NIGGERS, IM GONNA BAKE A NEW XMR THREAD - NOBODY DONT TOUCH!

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>>49252361
>thread didn't even reach 300 posts

>>49252673
> It reached 300 posts in my mind
picrel

is he ever going to realize bump limit is 310?

>6 monero threads on /biz/ right now
>3 of them are generals
We're so fucking back

>>49252789
kek fucking jews and their creative minds eh